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Speaker 1: Welcome into one Bill's Live. Everybody, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We are on a little bit of a herky jerky

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Speaker 1: start today because of the weather here in the south towns.

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Speaker 1: We had a tornado ripped through Hamburg and the weather

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Speaker 1: popped our power on and off. So I hope you're

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Speaker 1: all listening to us, and I hope you can get us.

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Speaker 1: I hope everybody's safe and sound. As a native of

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Speaker 1: and the best thing to do is stay away from

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Speaker 1: there staying safe and sound. Steve Tasker on with Chris

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Speaker 1: Tapaso today. Thanks for joining us. We're gonna be with

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Speaker 1: you all today, tomorrow and Friday. Right, and so Brownie's

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Speaker 1: got some stuff going on around the around town. Uh,

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Speaker 1: don't mess with the tornado, folks. Just get in your basement,

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Speaker 1: turn a radio on, and and keep it live updated.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I noticed, and in my experience,

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Speaker 1: when you go through a tornado, you get down under

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Speaker 1: it and stay there. Uh, but you will be shocked

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Speaker 1: at how clear and sunny. It gets right after the tornament.

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Speaker 3: It was pitch it's dark ten minutes ago, and now it.

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Speaker 1: Was pitch dark here at the stadium ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: Now we got we had sunshine and stuff as the

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Speaker 1: rain cleared out and the skies were clearing up very fast.

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Speaker 1: But in order to get to the clear skies and

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Speaker 1: Hear the stadium got a bunch of lightning strikes, We

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Speaker 1: had wind and hail falling. There was a reported tornado

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Speaker 1: in Hamburg, New York. The storm systems moving northeast, as

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Speaker 1: most storm systems do through this are region. The locals

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Speaker 1: know kind of the pattern where it's going to be right,

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Speaker 1: it out for a few minutes and then it passes.

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Speaker 1: This stuff is moving very fast, so it'll move out

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Speaker 1: as you can imagine. But stay safe out there, and

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, Chris, Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 1: Quite a start to our day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a first.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've been on maybe twenty thirty times and

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Speaker 4: I've never had to kind of brace for maybe we're

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Speaker 4: gonna lose power, which we did there for a second

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Speaker 1: We were just we're about to come on with the

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Speaker 1: open was playing and the lights went out. Everything went dead.

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Speaker 1: So here we are. Thanks for joining us. If you

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Speaker 1: want to call in and chime in about what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the weather or anything else, call us at

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Speaker 1: eight or three zero five fifty or one eighty eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five point fifty. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We've got some Christah passos in. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the A and B players and the

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Speaker 1: levels of where these players are and where how you

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Speaker 1: see them evolving this season. We've also got a Twitter

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Speaker 1: question for you as well. And let me let me

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Speaker 1: just I'm a little bit discombobulated, as you might imagine

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Speaker 3: Well let's yeah, it says right here. Tornado watch issued

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Speaker 1: Upsalls tornado watch. Here's the difference. A tornado watch means lookout.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the weather that breeds tornadoes. A tornado

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Speaker 1: warning meaning they've got one and it's there. So if

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Speaker 1: A tornado watch means look out because there might be one.

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Speaker 1: which is what we all our phones buzzed as a

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Speaker 1: been one on the ground. That's what it means. You

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the state of Kansas, and I've

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely no joke. But getting back to what

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Speaker 1: we can help, we will. But if if you do,

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Speaker 1: are there lessons or trends in the league last season

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Speaker 4: And that's stuff that happened to the Bills league wide.

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Speaker 4: What you learned from watching the Chiefs win back to

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Speaker 4: back Super Bowls? Just whatever, however you want to take

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Speaker 4: that question, either get to us on Twitter at one

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Speaker 4: things that developments that happened within the bills twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems kind of crazy, you know, the

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Speaker 1: from the movie Twister and all that. Yeah, man, I

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Speaker 1: of seems silly to start talking about the Bill's season

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Speaker 1: not making light of this in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: I've lived through them and it is no joke. So

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Speaker 1: for those of you don't know, just hunker down until

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Speaker 1: it's still out there. Just stay down. But it moves fast.

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Speaker 1: As we saw here it we watched it as it

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of lightning strikes some and I'm telling you,

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Speaker 4: Channel four meteorologist just tweeted it was located over Eden

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Speaker 4: near Hamburg, moving into Hamburg. It's moving at forty miles

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Speaker 1: Well, the front moves like that fast, and then you

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Speaker 1: Well, it's moving at forty miles an hour. As you said,

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Speaker 1: Our power went off and on. We just got off

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Speaker 1: Sabers Live and yeah, see there's the there's a picture

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's sunny out there and in the background

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Speaker 1: Skies are very dark over that way, but the sun

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Speaker 1: Yeah you stay in the cinder blocking on concrete. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's something we get very often.

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Speaker 1: much for joining us, Steve Tasker, Christopasso. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: let's start talking about it. I got around the NFL

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Speaker 1: here and this stuff that's going on around the league.

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Speaker 1: And if if we've known for a while that the

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Speaker 1: josh Sean McDermott. They've had it going on sustained success. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And their point differential over the last five years is

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Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl. The second place team is

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Speaker 1: their point differential over five years their six forty seven.

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Speaker 1: That point differential speaks to the fact, and we talk

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Speaker 3: They have one loss of over double digits in the

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Speaker 1: Years, three years. The last time it happened in the

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Speaker 1: regular season was the Indianapolis team. Yes, that came back

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Speaker 1: Is like forty seven to fifteen. That's the biggest loss

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Speaker 3: Twin didn't start. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So all of that stuff going into the mix.

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Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl would be Yeah, the Pro Bowl is

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Speaker 1: a has become a non entity, So I would I

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Speaker 1: would just do away with it and bring the guys

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Honors and have him introduced as well.

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Speaker 1: But those are He's close, he's getting close to the

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Speaker 1: Tasker plan. But I think the Pro Bowl during the

442
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Speaker 1: season is a bad idea. Also, did you see this,

443
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people have probably heard this A

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Speaker 1: day or two old Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers, they

445
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Speaker 1: were friends from their time in Green Bay together, and

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Speaker 1: Rogers is trying to get Dvante Adams to come to

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Speaker 1: the Jets still.

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Speaker 4: That was the thing last offseason and he's like, no,

449
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Speaker 4: I'm staying with the Raiders. Is my hometown team, have

450
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Speaker 4: a big contract here. He's still pushing to get Devontaems.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets can get him under the cap.

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Speaker 1: And secondly, how do the other wide receivers in that

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Speaker 1: room or thinking.

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Speaker 3: Dude, yeah, Garrett Wilson, what's he thinks?

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with me? Whydvante?

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is I don't do totally hate all of

457
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Speaker 4: his you know, his spiritual stuff that he tries to do.

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Speaker 4: That's fine for but I'm fine with that. It just

459
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Speaker 4: seems like he always tries to stay in the forefront

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Speaker 4: of the media and that kind of bugs me. I

461
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Speaker 4: feel like they would have to bug some of the players,

462
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Speaker 4: especially because Aaron Rodgers came out and said, oh, we're

463
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Speaker 4: gonna only focus on football. We don't want anything else

464
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Speaker 4: that's going to distract us. And it seems like every

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Speaker 4: other week, whether it's you know, missing the end of

466
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Speaker 4: mini camp to be in Egypt for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: Now this.

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Speaker 4: It's just always some type of non football distraction or

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Speaker 4: distraction of someone that's not on the team, and the

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Speaker 4: chances of DeVonta Adams getting to New York with the

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Speaker 4: Jets relatively slim. For Adams to say this, it's just

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Speaker 4: another reminder that Rogers wants to do stuff that's not

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Speaker 4: football related.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, So I'm with you. He's got

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Speaker 1: and he's a smart dude. Rogers is and he know

476
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Speaker 1: and he and DeVante are obviously very friendly for their

477
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Speaker 1: success they've had on the field together, and that's that

478
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Speaker 1: never goes way for guys. They always have a level

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Speaker 1: of affection for their teammates who they've had some success with.

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Speaker 4: And he brought in everybody last year, Randall Cobb, Allen

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Speaker 4: Blazzaard to the Jets.

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Speaker 3: He wants to kind of recreate like that.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot and for me, that says a

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Speaker 1: lot about Aaron who he is. He's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of confidence he can still play and play a high

486
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Speaker 1: oh sure, and he wants those guys there to help

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Speaker 1: him do it. We'll see, though, I it's not going

488
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Speaker 1: to happen. I think this is just off season conversations

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Speaker 1: that go on. But Aaron Rodgers is I mean, there

490
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Speaker 1: isn't a more pressure packed spot for a player in

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 4: He's in New York, all the controversial stuff, the injury

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Speaker 4: last year, how the Jets have really placated to whatever

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Speaker 4: he's wanted and beyond Aaron Rodgers, I think it is

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Speaker 4: important to always certainly state that, like you said, the

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Speaker 4: Jets roster is very loaded. The defense has given Josh

497
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Speaker 4: Allen problems. It's been like a top ten defense with

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Speaker 4: Robert Salid there that's got the defensive mind. But in

499
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Speaker 4: Tyron Smith from the Cowboys, who's dealt with a bunch

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Speaker 4: of injuries. Mike Williams with the Chargers always injured, good

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Speaker 4: player when he's healthy, but he just has not been

502
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Speaker 4: able to stay healthy. It's not just can Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: stay healthy, it's can some of the big acquisitions that

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Speaker 4: they've brought in alongside Aaron Rodgers also stay healthy? And

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Speaker 4: if they don't, then you're looking at a similar, I

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Speaker 4: think season in twenty twenty four to what the Jets

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Speaker 4: had last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also list season and player rankings season for

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Speaker 1: as we look back at last year and evaluate and

510
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Speaker 1: get an idea of what the rosters are going to

511
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Speaker 1: be looking like around the league. So ESPN put out

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Speaker 1: their list. They've got top ten guys at every position.

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Speaker 1: Today was the edge rushers, or maybe yesterday was the

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Speaker 1: edge rushers. As Bills fans might expect zero guys guy,

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Speaker 1: no Bills players on the top ten edge rushers. But

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Speaker 1: let me say this too. This last year was a

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Speaker 1: high bar to get on that top ten because there

518
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Speaker 1: were it's such one guys. Twenty one guys in the

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Speaker 1: league last year had ten or more SACDs.

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Speaker 4: It's such a good era for edge rush Max Crosby

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Speaker 4: and TJ. Watt and Miles Garrett, Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa,

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Speaker 4: Khalil Max still playing at a high level.

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Speaker 3: It's it's hard to get into that top ten.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, they're only thirteen guys it had

525
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Speaker 1: double digit sacks and last year there were twenty one.

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Speaker 1: So the bar is high and the top five guys

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Speaker 1: are I mean, you could name him. You just named him.

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett number one, TJ Watt, number two, Micah Parson's

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Speaker 1: number three, Nick Bosa and Macross, Max Crosby. Those are

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Speaker 1: the five guys who were at the top of the list.

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Speaker 1: And that goes down through the others as well. It

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Speaker 1: was that's a that's a tough spot to stand out in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it comes down to mostly just numbers.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about this later in the show, but I

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Speaker 4: think the one player that could have his sights set

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Speaker 4: on that for next year would be Greg Russo. That

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Speaker 4: he's been such a good three down player that he's

538
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Speaker 4: great against the run, setting the edge, getting off blocks.

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Speaker 4: The sack numbers have been there, but maybe not to

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Speaker 4: the same level as some of those players. The talent,

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Speaker 4: the length, the ability, the pressures have been in that range.

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Speaker 4: So I think if you're Greg Russo and you're the Bills,

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Speaker 4: you're kind of I mean, it's not your only goal,

544
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Speaker 4: but maybe that is a kind of a secondary goal

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Speaker 4: to be inside that top ten list next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's like that list was compiled by ESPN

547
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Speaker 1: by talking to like eighty executives and coaches, gms and

548
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Speaker 1: those kind of guys and then compiling all that information

549
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Speaker 1: and breaking ties and all of that. So also on

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Speaker 1: her up on a friend of the show, Kay Adams,

551
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Speaker 1: who is on her own up on Adams podcast, she

552
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Speaker 1: put up her top seven fantasy tight ends and there

553
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Speaker 1: is a bill on that list, and it is, of

554
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Speaker 1: course Dalton kin Cage. She divided those top seven guys

555
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Speaker 1: into two tiers, the first tier, and amazingly there's a

556
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Speaker 1: name other than Travis Kelcey at the top of the

557
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Speaker 1: first tier, and that's Sam Laporta from Detroit.

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Speaker 3: It was so good last season.

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Speaker 1: Really nice year last year. Then it's Travis Kelcey, and

560
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Speaker 1: then it's Mark Andrews from Baltimore. The second group is

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Speaker 1: George Kittle, Trey McBride from Arizona, Kyle Pitts from Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and then of course Dalton Kinkaid Buffalo's own up and

563
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Speaker 1: coming tight end.

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Speaker 4: The one I would be a little that I would

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Speaker 4: uh semi disagree with a little bit is Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 4: And I remember scouting him out of Florida and it

567
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Speaker 4: was this guy's a taroed actyl. He looks like a

568
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Speaker 4: big receiver. The production really hasn't been there. He gets

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins and that boost in quarterback play. We've talked

570
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Speaker 4: so much about how Josh Allen has kind of raised

571
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Speaker 4: the floor of a lot of different receivers, and it

572
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Speaker 4: is probably going to do that this year. Kyle Pitts though,

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Speaker 4: does have Drake London there. They signed Darnell Mooney in

574
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Speaker 4: free agency. They have Rondell Moore, they brought him over

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Speaker 4: in a trade. I just don't know if Kyle Pitts

576
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Speaker 4: is going to see the volume even then what dun

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Speaker 4: Kan kid is going to get here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll say this to Trey McBride. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know very little about him, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be hard in Arizona to stand out offensively with

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Speaker 1: that Kyl Kyler's going to be there and they'll be.

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Speaker 4: And they're gonna throw to Marvin Harrison Junior about two

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Speaker 4: hundred times this season.

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Speaker 1: He'll get one hundred and seventy five targets.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Uh, And I think that's that doesn't mean McBride won't

587
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Speaker 1: have a nice season. I'm just thinking that the volume

588
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: won't be there as well. That's around the NFL for

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Speaker 1: you today on this what day is Wednesday? There we

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Speaker 1: go when thank you and uh, we're gonna be back.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Christrapasso. I hope everybody's staying healthy out there.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like we can tell by that there's no

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Speaker 1: rumble in our building that the storm is passed here

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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park at where the stadium is. I hope

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Speaker 1: it's passed where you are. I hope you're all safe

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Speaker 1: and sound. Come back and join us for the last

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Speaker 1: ninety minutes of One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker, Christopasso. This

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Speaker 1: is One Bill's Live and you're listening to Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker and Christapriso.

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Speaker 1: Here we're gonna we're gonna talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: our Twitter question. What lessons from the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: season can the Bills carry into and build on, and

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Speaker 1: also what trends did you see in the NFL that

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00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: may help the Bills this year or maybe the Bills

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Speaker 1: can jump on board with I think that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things that jumps out, obviously, is the two tight

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Speaker 1: end thing with Kinkaid being in this fantasy conversation this year,

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Speaker 1: the way he finished the season, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: the only reason they might not have done it last

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Speaker 1: year was because of Dawson Knox's wrist injury. So they

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Speaker 1: might have done a ton of it last year and

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Speaker 1: they might get back to it this year. It gives

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Speaker 1: them some flexibility, particularly with the ability of Kincaid to

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Speaker 1: like play outside the numbers. Yeah, so you come in

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Speaker 1: in a heavy set, they match you with the linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and they put all these big dudes in there to

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Speaker 1: stop this package in this condensed formation. Then Kinkaid goes out,

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Speaker 1: splits out, and he's running like you know, dig routes

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Speaker 1: on the outside, which tight ends can't do.

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Speaker 4: But he can't and linebackers can't cover that. I mean

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Speaker 4: most linebackers cannot cover that.

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Speaker 1: And so you get all this stuff that is possible,

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Speaker 1: trends that can be taken advantage of by your team,

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Speaker 1: and Joe Brady's gonna have his work cut out for him.

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Speaker 1: Is interesting to see the evolution. We've talked a lot

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Speaker 1: about how the offense changed under Joe Brady than the

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Speaker 1: way it wasn't with Ken Dorsey at the first half

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Speaker 1: of last year.

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Speaker 3: A lot more motion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they did some of that stuff, and the condensed

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Speaker 1: formations they used a little bit more. And also they

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Speaker 1: were much and I say much, we're talking about fractions,

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Speaker 1: but they were much heavier a run team. In fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty run situations where there were down, there were down

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Speaker 1: in distance, and I can't tell you off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head what they are. Maybe you can, Chris.

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Speaker 1: There's down in just like first and ten second and

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Speaker 1: four second and three somewhere in there and third and

639
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Speaker 1: whatever whatever where it's where the analytics the statistics say

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Speaker 1: you can either run or pass your right. Well, on

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Speaker 1: more of those under Joe Brady, they did run, So

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Speaker 1: they were more fifty to fifty run oriented in those

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Speaker 1: run neutral downs, and they were under condorse.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of times with analytics what they say

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Speaker 4: for the neutral game situations, that phrase just means that

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Speaker 4: the score is within one score on either side that right.

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Speaker 4: If you're leading, you're clearly going to be more apt

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Speaker 4: to just run, and if you're trailing by seventeen points,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna throw it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a tie game.

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Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want exactly.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, the Bills certainly have had, like we

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Speaker 4: just teased earlier or spoke to earlier, that they've you know,

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Speaker 4: highest point differential plus what was it, six eighty four

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Speaker 4: something like that the last five years, they've been in

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Speaker 4: a lot of situations where they could have just run

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Speaker 4: the ball.

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Speaker 3: They're not in.

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Speaker 4: They have barely been in any situations where you're like, man,

660
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Speaker 4: we're down fourteen, we're down twenty, we're down twenty one.

661
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Speaker 4: We got to throw it. It's those neutral game situations

662
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Speaker 4: where you can kind of pick and choose when you

663
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Speaker 4: see an uptick in either passing or running. That's where

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Speaker 4: you get kind of a better insight in what an

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're asking you what trends you see in

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Speaker 1: the league or what trends the lessons did you learn

668
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Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty three Bills that you can take four?

669
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Speaker 1: You know, and this is a team that has seemingly,

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Speaker 1: for the entirety of the Josh Allen era, has been

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Speaker 1: on the cusp of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: You've said it, and I think this cannot be stressed enough.

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Speaker 4: In any of the last five years, the Bills have

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Speaker 4: been good enough to at least get to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: When you get late in the season, injuries and a

676
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Speaker 4: bad bounce here, a.

677
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Speaker 3: Made field goal, a missed field goal.

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Speaker 4: A drop here is the difference between losing in the

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Speaker 4: division round and winning a Super Bowl. I mean, even

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Speaker 4: when the Rams won and this year with the Chiefs,

681
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Speaker 4: close games, narrow little things that happen here or there

682
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Speaker 4: are the difference. The Bills were Super Bowl caliber.

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Speaker 1: I think last think about the Rams when they went.

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Speaker 3: They won all three point games to get to the Super.

685
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Speaker 1: Bowl, and they had the blatant missed pass interference call

686
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Speaker 1: on Roby Coleman, who in what they change the rules

687
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Speaker 1: for at the end of the in New Orleans in the.

688
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Speaker 4: Previous Super Bowl, they they don't go exactly right, they

689
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Speaker 4: don't get there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that blatantly missed penalty. So that kind of

691
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Speaker 1: stuff happens to teams, and also they do it to themselves.

692
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's make it. There's no question about it

693
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Speaker 1: that you cough the ball up here, you miss a

694
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Speaker 1: call there, and the thirteen second game will always haunt

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Speaker 1: Bill's fans for sure. And you got to look at

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Speaker 1: at those guys, everybody in that locker room and the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff got to sit there and look in the

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Speaker 1: mirror and go, now, you know, oh my gosh, we

699
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Speaker 1: should you know, we didn't do it? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: My biggest lesson, sure, my biggest lesson, And I have

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Speaker 4: a few, but I'll start with this and again reach

702
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Speaker 4: out to us at one Bill's Live on Twitter, certainly

703
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Speaker 4: phone lines are open as well. My biggest is and

704
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Speaker 4: it's to kind of be segueing from what you were

705
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Speaker 4: just mentioning balance is so important that I think in

706
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Speaker 4: today's NFL, with fantasy football, with you know, certainly here

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo Josh Allen becoming an elite quarterback and sustaining

708
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Speaker 4: that level of production, it's easy to kind of fall into, Hey,

709
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Speaker 4: all that matters is offense. Just score forty points, doesn't matter,

710
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Speaker 4: That's how you win. What we saw from the Chiefs

711
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Speaker 4: last year, there were long stretches during the regular season

712
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Speaker 4: and even into the playoffs where the Patrick Mahomes offense

713
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Speaker 4: was not the normal standard of the Patrick Mahomes offense.

714
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Speaker 4: The defense and being balanced and being so good in

715
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Speaker 4: the secondary with the passer rush with Chris Jones leading

716
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Speaker 4: the way, the linebacker play got a lot better for them.

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Speaker 4: They really won that Super Bowl last year because of

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Speaker 4: how well balanced they were. And it's a segue from

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Speaker 4: the Bills in the beginning of the season looked like

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Speaker 4: the normal Bills. Then they hit kind of an offensive

721
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Speaker 4: rut and they fired Ken Dorsey. Joe Brady comes in

722
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Speaker 4: and it wasn't necessarily every game the Josh Allen show,

723
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Speaker 4: it was James Cook against the Cowboys, it was better

724
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Speaker 4: defensive play down the stretch. And then ironically for the

725
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Speaker 4: Bills they got a lot of injured players on the

726
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Speaker 4: defensive side. They were really a mash unit going into

727
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Speaker 4: that Chiefs game. My biggest takeaway is it's easy to

728
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Speaker 4: get enamored with what Josh Allen can do and how

729
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Speaker 4: he can light up a scoreboard and do everything, but

730
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Speaker 4: being well balanced and like the Chiefs were offensively defensively,

731
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Speaker 4: Isaiah Pacheco so good in the run game for them,

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Speaker 4: I think that it just was re established in my

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Speaker 4: brain that being literally like you guys were in the nineties,

734
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Speaker 4: a very well rounded and balanced football team matters more

735
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Speaker 4: than just scoring forty points.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing too, and it's one of the things

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Speaker 1: that perhaps this Bills team has lacked over the course

738
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Speaker 1: of this run they've been on. Is this and that

739
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Speaker 1: nineties team that I was on, and the Chiefs team

740
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Speaker 1: last year others have been examples of this as well.

741
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Speaker 1: You got to find different ways to win games really

742
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Speaker 1: good like you got to be able to do it

743
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Speaker 1: on special teams, you got to be able to do

744
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Speaker 1: it on defense, You got to be able to do

745
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Speaker 1: it on offense. You got to be able to throw it,

746
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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to run it. You got to

747
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Speaker 1: be able to churn out turnovers. You got to be

748
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Speaker 1: able to stop them, you know, for no gains, all

749
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Speaker 1: of that stuff. Different time, different types of your game.

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Speaker 1: You have to come up big in certain moments. The

751
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Speaker 1: Bills haven't been able to do that to the extent

752
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Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl like do it tons

753
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Speaker 1: in the regular season, but they do tend to win

754
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Speaker 1: in the same yes, all time a lot. Not always

755
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Speaker 1: like you'll see Milano make a play at the end

756
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: of game. We've seen, but when when you see those

757
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: guys make plays at the end of games defensively, you think, wow,

758
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: that they shut the game out. That's what they're doing.

759
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Speaker 1: That's one of the things that von Miller was going

760
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Speaker 1: to come in to do. Get that second. He did

761
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: that early here in his time in Buffalo. But you

762
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Speaker 1: need different ways to win games, and far too much.

763
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Speaker 1: Not not that it's a bad thing. Josh just wins it. Yeah,

764
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Speaker 1: and they're still hard to beat, but it would we

765
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Speaker 1: always tend to really notice when somebody else makes that play. Well.

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Speaker 4: I think that was very vital probably to a lot

767
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Speaker 4: of the encouragement going into this season with Joe Brady

768
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Speaker 4: that that that that Dallas Cowboys game that was a

769
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Speaker 4: marquee game against a playoff team Dak Prescott. They were

770
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Speaker 4: lighting up the scoreboard in Dallas. They come to Buffalo,

771
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Speaker 4: it's a raining game, and then suddenly the playing field

772
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Speaker 4: is kind of the same with the quarterbacks because you know,

773
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen can't throw it probably forty to fifty.

774
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Speaker 3: Times that game. They handed it off to James Cook.

775
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Speaker 4: He had over two hundred and twenty yards on the

776
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Speaker 4: ground or total yards from scrimmage in that game. That

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Speaker 4: was encouraging to see that Joe Brady was able to

778
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Speaker 4: tap into more of just hey, Josh Allen, go win

779
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Speaker 4: as this game. And I think that maybe spoke to

780
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Speaker 4: being a little bit okay with trading Stefan Diggs and

781
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Speaker 4: spreading the football around. But I think that philosophy in

782
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Speaker 4: the receiver room and just being balanced overall, I think

783
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Speaker 4: is really important. We've seen it many many times recently

784
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Speaker 4: in the NFL to win a Super Bowl, even the

785
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Bucks team during the COVID year. Great offense,

786
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Speaker 4: great defense, good running game. Tom Brady was still Tom Brady,

787
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Speaker 4: but he wasn't just the only reason that team won games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's it. Most of these really good teams

789
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: have different ways to beat you. And that's one of

790
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: the things that is kind of the common denominator. They

791
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: have stars. Most of them, if not all of them,

792
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: have real stars and real players that can do it physically,

793
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: that are superior in some way, shape or form. But

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Speaker 1: they also have others, the finger others who chime in

795
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Speaker 1: from time to time. That team I was on way

796
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Speaker 1: back in the day was a perfect example that You've

797
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: seen other examples of that as well. Even the John Elway.

798
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Speaker 1: John Elway played for fifteen years and didn't win a

799
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl until his last two years when he went back.

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Speaker 3: To back run game and it was the run game

801
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Speaker 3: Toil Davis, Terrell Davis.

802
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Speaker 4: I mean, not that John Elway was bad then, but

803
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Speaker 4: I remember watching that as a kid where you would

804
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Speaker 4: see games and go.

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Speaker 3: Oh, John how I didn't really do much in that game.

806
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Speaker 3: It was a good defense, and Terrell Davis had one

807
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty years rushing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you look at Peyton Manning when he went

809
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos he was a shell physically of

810
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: himself and actually sat out a bunch of games in

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Speaker 1: the year they actually won it. But the year before

812
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Speaker 1: when they ran into the Legion of Boom in Seattle,

813
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Speaker 1: they had and this to me is still the greatest

814
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl defensive performance of all time was the Seattle

815
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Speaker 1: Legion of Boom, because like you think the eighty five

816
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Bears is always that that mythical they played and it's

817
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: not their fault, but they played against the New England

818
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Patriots in the Super Bowl that year. The Patriots were

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Speaker 1: the sixteenth ranked offense.

820
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Speaker 3: In the league. Was that Tony Ea in their quarterback?

821
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were the six.

823
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Speaker 4: Face Peyton Manning with the Marus Thomas and Manny Sanders.

824
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Wes Welker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They were scoring a lot of points.

826
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Speaker 1: But they were a juggernaut. They were the offensive all

827
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Speaker 1: time point. He threw for fifty touchdowns, I mean fifty

828
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Speaker 1: five touchdowns. He set the record. They could that team

829
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Speaker 1: was unstoppable offensively until that game. Until that game they

830
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Speaker 1: scored eight So the teams like that. Certainly, if you

831
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Speaker 1: have a dominant performance in a team in a game

832
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: like that, it says something about your ability to win games.

833
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Speaker 1: But even that legion of Boom, they had Russ Wilson

834
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: who could make big plays and could stay alive, and

835
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Speaker 1: Marshall they had some have some stuff. Yeah, right, so

836
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Speaker 1: they had different ways to win. I think maybe if

837
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Speaker 1: you're if you're going to take a lesson away from

838
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: what happened in those games, maybe that's maybe that's it.

839
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Speaker 1: We've let's let's take one phone call before we go

840
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: to break. We've got Joe from Williamsville. Joe, what's on

841
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: your mind about the eighteen game schedule? Uh.

842
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 5: What prompted me to call Steve was when you mentioned

843
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 5: about your tasker plan. And I've been listening to you

844
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Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks now, and this might sound dumb,

845
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: but one thing that hasn't been mentioned is when the

846
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 5: NFL makes it schedule up, they have to consider fantasy football.

847
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: Now.

848
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Speaker 5: I've been playing fantasy football for thirty five years now,

849
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Speaker 5: and over the course of time, it's become a real

850
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 5: money maker. And there are games NFL games that I

851
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 5: will watch that I would never watch. The only reason

852
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: I watch them is because I have NFL players in

853
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: the in the in those games, and I like your

854
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: plan being shut down for a whole week. But I

855
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 5: think that defeats the per of extending the season one

856
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 5: more week in the fact that the TV stations won't

857
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 5: have that week for football. And then I heard one

858
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 5: caller say that he would like half the teams down

859
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Speaker 5: one week and the other half another week, and that

860
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 5: would be a nightmare for fantasy football. But anyways, I'll

861
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: hang up and I'll listen to you guys, and don't

862
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Speaker 5: kill me too much.

863
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely no, fantasy has become a big deal, no question

864
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: about it.

865
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Speaker 3: It matters to the league.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. My plan and the plan you're

867
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Speaker 1: talking about, and at the end of the season, the

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Speaker 1: length of the season is the same. It's the exact same.

869
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Speaker 1: Where the by's fall and all that is different, but

870
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: the length of the season would be the identical. It

871
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be lengthened to get to President's Day. There would

872
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: be there'd bet by sprinkled in or whatever, but it's

873
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: the same number of weekends for football. I like the

874
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: idea that Joe Burrow put out there of having two

875
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: simultaneous bye weeks during the season. That way we can

876
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: we can lose all this preoccupation we have with well,

877
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: they got more rest than we did. They're playing three

878
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: teams that have an extra day's rest and another team

879
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: that's coming in after their bye week. That kind of

880
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: thing that would do away with that advantage and disadvantage.

881
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 3: And doing it at the same time.

882
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 4: To Joe's question, you wouldn't have any problems with fantasy

883
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 4: football where oh man, all my best wide receivers are

884
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: not playing just the whole league.

885
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: You can have many It might help. Mike spur thinks

886
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: you'd have many leagues inside of the between the bye

887
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: weeks and that kind of thing. So listen, we're gonna have, uh,

888
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: starting from the second by or from the first to

889
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: the second by, we're gonna have a separate league and

890
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing.

891
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: So there's lots of possibilities.

892
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can cut. It gives you three ways to

893
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: slice the season up into usable parts. And uh, Mike,

894
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Mike from I believe it's hold on,

895
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: I gotta put Mike, Mike from Holly, New York. We're

896
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: gonna get to you next after the break. We've got

897
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: to stop here though for a break. Hope everybody's safe

898
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: and sound after the storm. I hope everybody's doing Okay,

899
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: you're with Steve Tasker and Christoapasso and One Bill's Live.

900
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

901
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Christapasso with you here. We're going to

902
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: take a quick phone call right now from Mike in Holly,

903
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 1: New York. Mike, go ahead, what's on your mind?

904
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Longtime listener, first

905
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: time caller.

906
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: Awesome.

907
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: What I wanted to bring up was the injury bug.

908
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: You know, you talked last year Steve about you got

909
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: to play your best on that day. I think I

910
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: had T shirts made up the seams. The past past

911
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: couple of years, though the injury bug hasn't allowed us

912
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: to the play our best. You know, or two years

913
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: ago Jordan Phelps playing with one arm, Vaughn not in

914
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: the picture. This year, you know, the same thing happened.

915
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: We're getting younger. I hope that helps, but how can

916
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: we uh? Is there anything we can do to make

917
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: sure that we put our foot best foot forward?

918
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's co Bells. Thanks appreciate you, Mike. And that's yeah,

919
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: that's the interesting question because really.

920
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 4: Before that they were really healthy for like from eighteen

921
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 4: to twenty one, the Bills were like one of the

922
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: healthiest teams in the league. And I still think their

923
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 4: strength and conditioning program and that we talked about it,

924
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: they usually keep guys on the sideline an extra week

925
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 4: instead of pushing them onto the field.

926
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they never They've never allowed guys to go out there.

927
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: That's all you can ask. I mean, and you know,

928
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 4: injuries can be so fluky. They had so many injuries

929
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: in that Steelers wildcard round.

930
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah. The Steelers really put a beating on them,

931
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 1: even though they lost the game handily. It's a physical game,

932
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: and you know, you come out of their beat up

933
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: and now you to go into Kansas City and try

934
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: and win is hard. That's true about the injuries. It

935
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: does seem at some point you got to acknowledge that

936
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: it's a free wheeling game. You can't predict who or

937
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: when or how you're going to get injured, or the

938
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: severity of it, or whether you're going to get this

939
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: or that. I think one of the things that has

940
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: been a hallmark of the Sean McDermott era has been

941
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: their ability to use analytics and science and listen to

942
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: the strength conditioning and the nutrition side of it and

943
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: the sports science side of the building, and say, listen,

944
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: you need to give these guys a break, or you

945
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: need to give this guy a day off or that

946
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: guy a day off, and this guy needs this. And

947
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: they are individualizing the ability of the players to reach

948
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: Sunday every week healthy and fresh. And some guys need

949
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: more time off than others. Other guys do not. I

950
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: remember back in the day, there are certain guys and

951
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: everybody has their own personality, their own way of playing

952
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: the game. And some guys go out and they practice

953
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: one thousand miles per hour. You can do that, and

954
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: some guys just can't do anything else. So it's the club,

955
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: you know. The coaching SAPTS says, listen, you're you're not

956
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: practicing today. That's the only way you can put the

957
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: brakes on them. And so certain guys get days off

958
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: because when they don't take days off, they ask too

959
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: much and it starts to wear on them even and

960
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, they'll wear out before they stop practicing hard.

961
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: So there's guys like that you have to manage.

962
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 4: And what's I think been a staple of the Sean

963
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: McDermott era too, that kind of speaks to that is

964
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: more veterans getting veteran rest days. And I don't I'm

965
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: not positive if this still happens. But I remember a

966
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: few years ago seeing that the Bills aren't tackling as

967
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: much to the ground like you used to back in

968
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: the nineties, where guys would well, yeah, man, oh it's

969
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 4: it's Wednesday, and Steve Tasker just got hurt before this

970
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: big game against the Dolphins. The Bills are understand that

971
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 4: those heads, even in practice, they add up too, especially

972
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: with such a long season. So to be smarter in

973
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: practice and not act as though you're facing the Jets

974
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: or the Patriots in practice and take things a little

975
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 4: easier actually matters, just to keep these guys out even.

976
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: It's even the point too where and you always hear this,

977
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: little man, We hear it every year, and it's getting

978
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: less and less because I've kind of taken a different

979
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: stance on it than most old guys do. Listen, they

980
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: everybody said, wow, they don't know how to tackle these days,

981
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: and nobody's tackling anymore. Well, here's the thing. They're not allowed.

982
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: They're not allowed to go in and dick butkus guys.

983
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: Where they lead, Why would you want to do it?

984
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: If they lead their they lead with their head, you know,

985
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: Willy Lanier, Dick Butkus, ray Nichke, all the old guys,

986
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: you know, even to the point Ray Lewis guys as

987
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: recently as as Ray all those guys were coming in.

988
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: They lead with the head and they knocked that guy

989
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: from the top. You hit him in the head so

990
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: you can knock him off balance. It's like anything. If

991
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: you've got a bottle sitting on the table, the easiest

992
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: way to knock it over is at the top. You

993
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: push it over. That's where you hit guys to knock

994
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: them off their balance. And now you got guys coming

995
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: in low. If you're gonna go in low, you got

996
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks jumping guys and they're not missing a tackle. So,

997
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. It's hard to go in and

998
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: take a guy on like Rob Gronkowski. You six five,

999
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty five pounds running at a four

1000
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: or five clip, and you got to take him on

1001
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: at his waist, trying and jump.

1002
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: In front of him the thickest. You're not moving, you're

1003
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: not winning, you're going for you are not winning.

1004
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: So it's hard to tackle in this in today's NFL,

1005
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: and that's why you see now the technique for defenders

1006
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: is they don't even tackle the guy. They're tackling the ball.

1007
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: They're going in to reaching for the ball, so they're

1008
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: spinning there grabbing for the ball, and the guy's spinning,

1009
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: he's getting more yards all that, and everybody's losing their

1010
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: mind because he's getting the yards. But they're tackling the

1011
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: football trying to get it, knowing that if they can

1012
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: get it out, nobody cares about the extra five yard

1013
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: you get the ball. So that's the league has completely

1014
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: evolved away from this knock them off their feet, big hit,

1015
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: spectacularly violent game. It is still a violent game, but

1016
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: it is a more wrestling type of violent game rather

1017
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: than a collision type of violent game. So all of

1018
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,479
Speaker 1: that stuff goes into the mix about keeping these guys healthy,

1019
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: getting them ready for practice, and they even you know,

1020
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: they practice tackling the different way. They don't practice tackling guys.

1021
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: They practice tackling pads like different shape pads.

1022
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 3: Because those hits add.

1023
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: Up, they add up, they add up, and it's wear

1024
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: and tear. So there is that one thing before we

1025
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: go to this last breaks. It's almost the top of

1026
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: the hour, and when we come back after the hour,

1027
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about some A players on the

1028
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: bills and some B players on the bills, and who

1029
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: might emerge and evolve into either emerge as an A

1030
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: player or even become a star or somebody who is

1031
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: on the cusp that you might not expect your A

1032
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: and B players coming up after this. Right before we

1033
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: go to the break, though, I want to wish a

1034
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: happy birthday to my dad, Gordon Tasker, who's ninety four

1035
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: today and the family is expecting the birth of his

1036
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: is great grandson this morning. So today, so on my

1037
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: father's ninety fourth birthday, my grandson is Ma is gonna

1038
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: be born.

1039
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: The last time I was on.

1040
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Last time I was on, they were mom and Dad

1041
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: were celebrating their seventieth wedding and it's a tone a.

1042
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: Lot of time.

1043
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: So happy birthday to Dad. Appreciate you. We'll be back

1044
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: right after this. Stay tuned more One Bill's Live coming up.

1045
00:49:22,200 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. These One Bill's Lives presented

1046
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: by Called lighta Health. Welcome back to one of those lives.

1047
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: Steve task Chris Trapasso in for Chris Brown. Today, we're

1048
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Bill's roster right now, and we all

1049
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: do this. We all tend to think of guys at

1050
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: certain position groups are a certain you know, when you

1051
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: think about a team, you think about a handful of guys.

1052
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: And for the purposes of our discussion day, we're gonna

1053
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: think about those handful of guys as you know, A players,

1054
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: A plus players, kind of guys you know, great like

1055
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: the letter A and I'm gonna and I'm gonna think

1056
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: then there's others who for the purposes of this conversation,

1057
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about as B players, guys who may

1058
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: elevate or have a ways to go before their household

1059
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: names like we were talking about at the beginning of

1060
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: the show, where the top five or top ten edge

1061
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: rushers were released today, and guys like Miles Garrett and

1062
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: TJ Lots those are A guys for those teams, are

1063
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, and not just edge rushers, but any position

1064
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: group for the Buffalo Bills, who's going to become an

1065
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: A guy and who are the A guys that we

1066
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: know of. Certainly Josh fits into that. Certainly, he's a

1067
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: guy that you got to look at and say that's

1068
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, but there are other guys too that are

1069
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: a little under the radar, Bills fans, not like Taron Johnson. Yeah,

1070
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to find a better nickel guy

1071
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: in the league than Tarren Johnson. But he's not a

1072
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: guy that's catching touchdown passes and all of that guy

1073
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not one of those guys. In fact,

1074
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: it's a defensive back. The less you hear about a

1075
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: corner nickel or otherwise the better, right, unless he's got

1076
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 1: sixteen interceptions. Matt Mulano another. I think he's an a guy,

1077
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: a guy who is when he's out there. He's at

1078
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: all pro level at a very important defensive position. Dion

1079
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: Dawkins kind of like a cornerback. The less you hear

1080
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: about him, the better. And then you put this guy

1081
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: on the list. Chris and I was like, yeah, well

1082
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: I can't. You kind of got to Christian Benford.

1083
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: He was so good last season and his injury in

1084
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 4: the Chiefs game. I think, I mean Terrel Bernard didn't

1085
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: play in that game, or Christian Benford being that zone

1086
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: corner when he was coming out of Villanova, A lot

1087
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 4: of people thought, hey, he's not quite athletic enough, maybe

1088
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: he's going to make the switch to safety. He stays

1089
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 4: a corner, but in his zone heavy scheme. It's not

1090
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 4: to say that playing zone as a corner is necessarily easy.

1091
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 4: It's more about, though, understanding the scheme and how to

1092
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: bait the quarterback and where you need to be positioned

1093
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 4: relative to the route concept. I think Christian Benford is

1094
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: as good of a young zone corner as there is

1095
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: in the entire NFL. If you're watching here, you're seeing

1096
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 4: the interception in Week eighteen there against two tongue Vailoa

1097
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: on Tyreek Hill. By the way, running with Tyreek Hill

1098
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 4: down the field doesn't have the elite speed, But the

1099
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: mental side of the game. You've Steve talked about his

1100
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 4: toughness and how coachable he is, and if he does

1101
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: get beat for a touchdown or catch, it doesn't fay Sam.

1102
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 4: He doesn't get down on himself what he did last

1103
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 4: year and watching the film looking at the analytics, a

1104
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: bunch of pass breakups, a couple interceptions.

1105
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: He's a great tackler.

1106
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 4: I think Christian Benford is kind of moved into almost

1107
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: into the Tarren Johnson role where he was a few

1108
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 4: years ago where no one really knew about him besides

1109
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 4: in Buffalo. Feels like like you mentioned Taron Johnson around

1110
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 4: the league, now people understand this is an elite slot corner.

1111
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be talking about that with Christian Benford.

1112
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 4: And one last point we talked about previous segment. You

1113
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: gotta have other ways to win outside of Josh Allen

1114
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 4: just being a superhero.

1115
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: That's why the B players.

1116
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 4: Identifying who those B players are is so vital because

1117
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: those can be the guys collectively. Maybe they're not doing

1118
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: it themselves, but the Terrell Bernards, Zeo Cyrus Torrens is

1119
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: the Dalton Kincaid's and we can talk more about them.

1120
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 4: They can win you games collectively and it's very important.

1121
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you talk about guys who I don't

1122
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: know if you can consider him a I don't think

1123
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: you can consider him a players out of the gate

1124
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: because really it's Bills fans who know these guys by

1125
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: name and where they playing, where they're at. Guys like

1126
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: like Dalton kin Kid, No doubt that guy's got big

1127
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: things ahead of him.

1128
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: He has a talent, for sure.

1129
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: He's got a talent and he's gonna he needed to

1130
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: get a opportunity last year, and it took him away.

1131
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: It took him half a season to get on the

1132
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: to get on the radar, and then he finished extremely strong,

1133
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: no question. But and then guys like Greg Russeau, James Cook, uh,

1134
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: then interior guys like Ed Oliver and Spencer Brown, Osirus Torrance,

1135
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: those kind of guys. Yeah, it's I'll say this, it's

1136
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: hard for a guy like Connor McGovern or, Cyrus Torrance

1137
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: or even Spencer Brown is a right tackle to get

1138
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: onto the radar of people outside the Bills realm. But

1139
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: there are kind of those are kind of guys that

1140
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: can help you win games in certain in at different

1141
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: times of the season. Terrell Bernard is another one. I

1142
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: thought he really emerged last year, and I don't know

1143
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: whether it's it's a little bit like the old addie.

1144
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: I want to see you do it again before I

1145
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: believe it.

1146
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: That's why I thought he's still a big Terrell.

1147
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: Bernard had an incredibly productive season last year, very good

1148
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: season last year. Ed Oliver also had a career, his

1149
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: best career as a best year as a pro last year.

1150
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: Rasul Douglas was a really pleasant surprise mid season trade,

1151
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: came over from Green Bay and was averaging a turnover again.

1152
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a huge difference maker he made.

1153
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: But with him, it's not like he had never done

1154
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: that before.

1155
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: He was already a pretty quality player in Philadelphia and

1156
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 4: in Green Bay before he got traded to Buffalo.

1157
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: And then you got guys like Khalil Shakir who really

1158
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: elevated at the end of last year. I think Kincaid

1159
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: and Shakir are the two guys that you can hang

1160
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: your hat on saying we're really going to find out

1161
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: all we need to know about them this year. They're

1162
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna get big opportunities. If they're not who we think

1163
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: they are, we're going to know. But as of right now,

1164
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: I think what they did in the playoffs against really

1165
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: football teams says a lot about where they are.

1166
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Daikwon Jones is the other one. I had

1167
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 4: five on my list, five A players that you already

1168
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: mentioned and eleven B players. I did this exercise last

1169
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: year when I was on with Maddie. I think we

1170
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 4: had a few more A players because you still had

1171
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: Jordan Poyer in there. I think I turned Avius Waiting

1172
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: there as well, but more B players this year. So

1173
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: if you see a few of those, maybe it's Shakiir,

1174
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 4: maybe it's Dulton Kincaid, maybe it's Greg Russo that we

1175
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 4: talked about earlier, move into that a range.

1176
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 3: There's a little bit more balance.

1177
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 4: But I really think, and that's kind of the general philosophy,

1178
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: not just with the wide receiver group, but this Bill's

1179
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: roster in general. Let's try to have more B players.

1180
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: Let's try to raise the floor of the roster where

1181
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 4: our middle of the road guy is better than the

1182
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 4: vast majority of the middle of the road player on

1183
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 4: almost every other team.

1184
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: That's right, And you know it's it's the point now

1185
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: where you look at this roster and it was just

1186
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. And I'm we're going to

1187
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: expand on this as throughout the rest of this off

1188
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: season into training camp, about finding other ways to beat

1189
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: people other than just having Josh put the cape on.

1190
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: Get him some guys who can make the play after

1191
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: he makes an easy play, after he makes a dump

1192
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: off pass and somebody goes the distance and breaks four

1193
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: tackles and goes to the distance. I'm exaggerating, but yeah,

1194
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: as somebody outrun the angle and get into the end zone.

1195
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: Those kind of players are the ones you need. Also,

1196
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: interestingly enough about this A and B talk about where

1197
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: von Miller would fit into that, certainly a Hall of

1198
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: Fame credentials, coming off the year, the year he had

1199
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: last year, trying to work himself back into football shape

1200
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: and get back to elite status. I am probably higher

1201
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: on von Miller being able to contribute this year than

1202
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: most people are. I think they're kind of they feel like, oh,

1203
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: he's too old and he played didn't play well enough

1204
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: last year. I think that's who he's gonna be. I

1205
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: am not convinced of that. I think von Miller has

1206
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: some highlights left in him now, certainly at his age,

1207
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: and particularly on this team, which is good they rotate

1208
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: him in. He's only gonna play when he's fresh and

1209
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: ready to go, and he's gonna whenever he gets on

1210
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: the field, he's gonna be at his best, I think,

1211
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: and I think that is exactly the point in his

1212
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: career where he's at he needs to be. He doesn't

1213
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: need to be out there for sixty five defensive snaps,

1214
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: but he can give you twenty five really good snaps

1215
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: and maybe pull down a sack every thirty snaps. So

1216
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: I think he's that kind of player still, and I

1217
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know that everybody believes that. I think they're just

1218
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: kind of ready to move on from him. But I

1219
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: think I think Vaughan from what I saw last year

1220
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, even though he didn't

1221
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: have any stats, I still think von Miller is going

1222
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: to be in a position to help this football team

1223
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: going forward. So he's one of those players, the AB

1224
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: players that instead of an A or a B, I'd

1225
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: give him a question mark, you know, because certainly, if

1226
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: he played like von Miller, I mean, good grief, he's

1227
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: an A plus. But I don't know how much opportunity's

1228
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: going to get, how much he'll and how productive he'll

1229
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: be when he gets those opportunities.

1230
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, going into the twenty twenty three season with a

1231
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: lot of the talk being, hey, look he's going to

1232
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: be healthy, he was trying to play Week one, ultimately

1233
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: played way later than that, and then now he's saying,

1234
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't want to let my teammates down,

1235
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 4: but I probably shouldn't have been playing. In a more

1236
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 4: normal situation, he wouldn't have been in twenty twenty two.

1237
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 4: He absolutely until that ACL injury in Detroit on Thanksgiving

1238
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 4: was an A player. I think to what you're saying that,

1239
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 4: of course he's not going to play sixty seventy snaps

1240
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 4: a game, and most edge rushers that are those elite

1241
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: players as they get into their mid thirties don't play

1242
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 4: that much. If he can just play at a B level,

1243
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: like he just has a solid season eight to ten sacks,

1244
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 4: forty to fifty sixty pressures, and is that pass rush

1245
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: specialist that other teams have to gain plan for late

1246
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 4: in the games, being that closer that Brandon Bean has

1247
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: talked about, then the bill should be ecstatic with that,

1248
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: based on what he did last year and how he

1249
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 4: slow he was coming off the injury.

1250
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: With the rest of the depth that they have.

1251
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 4: If he's just a B player, and we can talk

1252
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 4: about some of the guys that we think could move

1253
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 4: into these certain ranges I put von Miller. If he

1254
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 4: just moves back into the B range, which really he's

1255
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: never been in his career, he's been a player. If

1256
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 4: he's a B player, B plus guy, the Bills should

1257
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 4: be fine with that, and it would I think work

1258
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 4: wonders for this defense.

1259
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that and I think one

1260
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: other name that we're talking about, and we have been

1261
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: we haven't. We've mentioned him at times in this offseason,

1262
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: Brownie and I and talking because we're really impressed with

1263
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: his athleticism. Is Dorian Williams to be a middle linebacker

1264
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Certainly you got to have some physical

1265
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: stuff at your disposal. All these guys do. The one

1266
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: thing I think that kept Dorian Williams off the field

1267
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: last year, other than Terrell Bernard playing as well as

1268
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: he did, and and and the usual presence of Matt Mulano,

1269
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: was the coaching staff's ability to trust him to make

1270
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: checks and the mental the mental side of the game,

1271
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: the scheme for Dorian Williams, there should be for him

1272
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: no excuse not to have that under his belt after

1273
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: a full year and to come into training camp ready

1274
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: to compete. That doesn't mean he's gonna be able to

1275
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: beat Terrell Bernard out or Matt Milano out or any

1276
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: of those guys. But but Dorian Williams is the fastest

1277
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: linebacker on the team, I think, and he is an

1278
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: aggressive kind of edgy defender that fans love to have

1279
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: on your side. You love to have it on your

1280
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: team because he's an intimidator. I mean, he's going to

1281
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: be in the middle of it. You love that. And

1282
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: I think there's an opportunity is a question mark for

1283
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: him because of where he's playing, sure and the guys

1284
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: ahead of him. But I think that that guy's got

1285
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: a bright future ahead of him. And I think if

1286
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: he does get that kind of opportunity, through injury or

1287
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: just through competition, gets on the field, I think he

1288
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 1: could be a really special.

1289
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 5: Place for the Bill.

1290
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 4: This is a former draft crusher mine out of tu

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Speaker 4: Lane that the Bills picked in the third round last year.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely loved him on film. I loved how he could cover.

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Speaker 4: That was always an underrated thing watching Matt Milano at

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Speaker 4: Boston College, and he certainly pardlaid that to being one

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Speaker 4: of the league's best coverage linebackers. We know how important

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Speaker 4: that is that these teams try to get you. Like

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Speaker 4: we were talking earlier, the Bills are going to try

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Speaker 4: to motion out Dalton Kinkaid to get him on a

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Speaker 4: linebacker the vast majority of them cannot cover Matt Mlano,

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Speaker 4: Ken Dorrian Williams. I saw that at Tulane. How about

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Speaker 4: this too, Terrell Bernard has the breakout year was all

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Speaker 4: over the field. Sacks, forced fumbles, interceptions, over one hundred.

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Speaker 3: And forty tackles. That was year two for him.

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Speaker 4: And you just spoke, I think, very eloquently to how

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Speaker 4: important it is to know the mental side when you're

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Speaker 4: playing linebacker. It's almost the quarterback of the defense. Terrel

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Speaker 4: Bernard one hundred and ten snaps as a rookie didn't

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Speaker 4: really make much of a mark. Dorrian Williams played two

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Speaker 4: hundred and eleven snaps last year. So to your point,

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Speaker 4: there really is no excuse that we saw the big

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Speaker 4: leap for Terrel Bernard in year two. Dorrian Williams got

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Speaker 4: more opportunity as a rook than Bernard did. He should

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Speaker 4: have this scheme, you know, Yeah, well he should understand

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Speaker 4: the scheme like the back of his hand and be

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Speaker 4: able to just play more instinctively instead of thinking of

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Speaker 4: where he needs to be on the field.

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Speaker 1: And it could be and well, I know this for

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Speaker 1: a fact. He doesn't get those two hundred snaps just

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Speaker 1: as a gift in this building. I know this. You

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Speaker 1: got to earn it. He got out there. Certainly there

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Speaker 1: was an injury to Matt Malone that made they were

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Speaker 1: starting to shuffle stuff around, but they don't put anybody

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Speaker 1: on the field they don't trust. Now, he wasn't playing

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Speaker 1: Bernard's spot, but he was out there, and man, he

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Speaker 1: showed up when he got his chances. I really liked

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Speaker 1: the work he put in as a linebacker, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's where it's going to come down to what

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Speaker 1: he does with the opportunities they give him during training

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Speaker 1: camp and all.

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Speaker 4: The other One other name that I didn't right here

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Speaker 4: in the notes about the A and B that I

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Speaker 4: think could move into the B range, And for those

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Speaker 4: that are big with fantasy football could say, maybe he

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Speaker 4: is already a B player. I think Curtis Samuel, I

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Speaker 4: think I forgot him because he's the new guy coming

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Speaker 4: in that Curtis Samuel. I mean we projected, I mean

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Speaker 4: I projected that he could be an eighty catch thousand

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Speaker 4: yard receiver, maybe not much more than a thousand yards,

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Speaker 4: but just be that possession guy. They use him out

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01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 4: of the backfield, they use him underneath and occasional deep ball.

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 4: He caught the deep ball, believe on Christian Benford in

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01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 4: that game against the Commanders last season, and Brandon Bean

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Speaker 4: has spoke to that exact moment that that was kind

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Speaker 4: of eye opening to him. If Curtis Samuel can just

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Speaker 4: be a solid B B minus, B plus somewhere in

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Speaker 4: that range quality player. I think he has the natural talent.

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Speaker 4: He's still relatively young, He's produced under Joe Brady, had

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Speaker 4: his best season in Carolina in twenty twenty, and then

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Speaker 4: with a myriad of quarterbacks none of which were really

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Speaker 4: particularly great in Washington, still put up quality statistics. You

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01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 4: get the boost from Josh Allen that we've spoken.

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Speaker 3: A lot about. He's another player.

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Speaker 4: You could have twelve, thirteen, fourteen B level players, five

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Speaker 4: to seven eight level players. Then you're getting back to

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01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 4: while this bill seems really balanced.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see this too. There's so much we don't

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Speaker 1: know if we haven't seen it yet about guys like

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Speaker 1: Keon Coleman. I mean that he's a real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: We don't know that, and there's every chance he could

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01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: be off the charts, and there's every chance that he

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Speaker 1: could just be a guy. I don't think he will be.

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Speaker 1: I particularly given the contrast of having him step onto

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Speaker 1: the field and direct replacement. If he's on the field,

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Speaker 1: direct replacement for Gabe Davis, I would keon Coleman. Yeah, absolutely,

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: and particularly he could be an upgrade from the guy

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Speaker 1: who was there last year, at least production wise.

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Speaker 3: And efficiency wise.

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Speaker 4: That's the keyword in efficiency, because Davis had a career

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo that you look at, you see, oh we

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Speaker 4: Han thirty catches for seven hundred yards. He was super efficient.

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Speaker 4: But when you look at the targets, the drop rate,

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Speaker 4: the catch rate a little bit lower. And we've spoken

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01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 4: directly to this. I know you and Chris probably have

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Speaker 4: two those games that Cincinnati Bengals game in prime time

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Speaker 4: when t Higgins, when Jamar Chase was not on the

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Speaker 4: field or wasn't able to produce at a high level.

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Speaker 4: Te Higgins goes off gave Davis zero catches, zero yards.

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01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 3: You needed your number two.

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Speaker 4: At times to make big plays and he wasn't able

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Speaker 4: to do it. What's good for Ken Coleman, Like we've said,

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01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 4: they've kind of, you know, brought in this wide receiver

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 4: by committee approach.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't need to be Steph Diggs.

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Speaker 4: Your point is good that he just maybe needs to

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Speaker 4: be a more efficient gave Davis in this offense.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and I think Khalil Shakiro will pick up a

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: ton of slack. He's going to be a better slot receiver,

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Speaker 1: more consistent slot receiver than anything they had last year.

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Speaker 1: They rotated guys in and out of that spot, and

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Speaker 1: I think if you get more guys consistently playing the

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Speaker 1: same spots, I think it'll help Josh. And it will

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01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: also help evaluate defenses when they get out there and saying, Okay,

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01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: here's what they think Khalil can do because we're seeing

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01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: this against him, now we're going to do that gives

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: us something. Aways had to shuffle it so much with

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01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: players and positions and motions and sets. Certainly you want

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: to have the ability to do that all the time.

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Speaker 1: But I think at times they spent too much time

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Speaker 1: in a game plan setting adjusting during game to what

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01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: they didn't know a defense thought about who they were playing.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean, they didn't know

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01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: what do they think about when we have Khalil out there?

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01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: What do they think? What are they doing? How they him?

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Speaker 1: How do they garden him? Because we don't know what

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01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: they even think about the guy. And we know what

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01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: they think about Steph, we know what they think about

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01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, but Kincaid and Shakir, he's not out there enough.

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Speaker 1: We didn't really start putting him out there until Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady in the second half of that season. So it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: now they with a guy out there like Khalil who

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Speaker 1: can get more snaps consistently, there's not going to be

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Speaker 1: that adjustment period for the offensive coordinator to know exactly

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01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: what defense are going to do against a guy like him.

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Speaker 1: I think that'll help Josh as well.

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Speaker 4: In a quick note here, you think of Kol Shakir,

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01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: what he did down the stretch, a lot of it

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01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 4: was in the slot. Curtis Samuel, you kind of think

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01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: of him as a slot receiver. Both of those guys

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Speaker 4: can play on the perimeter, and I think beyond the

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Speaker 4: familiarity that Joe Brady had with Curtis Samuel was probably

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Speaker 4: a big reason why the Bills wanted to sign him

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01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: give him eight million per year, which I think is

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Speaker 4: a gigantic bargain when you look at the receiver contracts.

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Speaker 4: I think they like that it fits with the receiver

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Speaker 4: by committee approach that Shakir at six foot one ninety

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Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel a little bit smaller, but right in that

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Speaker 4: range does not only have to play in the slot.

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Speaker 4: For as amazing as Cole Beasley was to earn the

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Speaker 4: All Pro distinction when he was here in Buffalo, he

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Speaker 4: was slot only. Isaiah McKenzie slot only. These players, you

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Speaker 4: truly can come out, have them in the slot, motion

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Speaker 4: them out wide, or have them come out of the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: Now we have Shakir and Samuel out wide, and Dalton

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Speaker 4: Kincaid's in the slot, in Dawson Knox's in the slot.

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Speaker 4: It helps the offense just be able to throw a

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Speaker 4: lot more at the opposing defense where they really don't

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 4: know what to do because you don't have players in

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01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 4: specific only roles like only Slaughter only on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with Chris Trapasso here on One Bills Live.

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01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: We're here till three o'clock. We'll take your phone calls

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01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: as we close things out here in the next half hour.

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01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: But we've been talking a lot about what player, what

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01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: lessons the Bills can bring from twenty twenty three. What

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: trends have you seen in the NFL that the Bills

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: can benefit from or take advantage of in the coming season.

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01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: Also about A and B players. A players like Josh Allen,

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: like Matt Mulano, like Dion Dawkins, Christian Benford, Tarren Johnson,

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: and then some of the guys like Greg Russeau, guys

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 1: like Ed Oliver Daikwan Jones and Kinkaid and Cook and Shakir,

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: guys who we think are going to really take a

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Speaker 1: step forward and have every reason to believe they would.

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01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: In fact, they would have got if they people knew

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: then what knew now? What they knew then? Or wait, wait,

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: if they knew then what they know now? How much

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01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: higher would Khalil Shakir been drafted?

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 3: Not in the fifth round rate right?

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01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: Exactly? Same thing with King Kid. He had an eighty

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: percent catch rate. I mean the guys they caught everything, uh,

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: and they were open. We feel like, now we've got

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: to handle on who these guys are and how good

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01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 1: they're gonna be. But are they gonna be A plus players?

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: Are they gonna Are they gonna be guys where people

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01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: who are fans of the Seattle Seahawk are gonna go, oh, yeah,

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01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: that kin Kid kid from Buffle, he's really good or

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01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: that guy that shows Wow, those are that guy's really good. Uh.

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01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: Fans around the league are going to look at the

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01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's roster and saying, oh, man, they that guy

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: over there. Not just it's Josh right, now it's Josh

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Speaker 1: and only Josh right because now people used to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Steph Diggs, because Steph had that larger than life social

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01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: media personality and and and production and and production, and

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: people like to talk about him and how fragile the

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01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: whole scene was with with Steph. If something went wrong,

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: it was all gonna come crashing down. They said it

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01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: when they got traded for him from uh minutes, so

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: do I have this guy? Was gonna come crashing down?

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01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: And it didn't happen. The guy was great, great here,

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01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: But those are the eight players. Josh and Steph were

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: the guys the billboard. Now it's Josh and people are going, well, okay,

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01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: you got a couple guys. Who who is it gonna be.

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: That's kind of the state the Bills are in this offseason,

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01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: and it's pretty interesting to think about.

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01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 4: Interesting and to our point earlier, it's we've seen with

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs.

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01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 3: The last two years.

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 4: It's really really a critical thing to have a bunch

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 4: of b players that are really good that can win

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01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 4: you games. When Josh Allen either for whatever reason, isn't

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01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 4: super Man and has four hundred yards total offense in

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Speaker 4: a game.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasher, Christo Paula, We're gonna take a break. We'll

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01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: come back and we're gonna talk about We're gonna read

1495
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: your tweets from the tweet sheet. We're also gonna take

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: your phone calls about the eighteen game schedule and whatever

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01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: else you want to talk about. I hope you're all

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01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: out there, safe and dry and in one piece after

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: the huge stormfront ripped through here. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio and this is one Bill's Live. Welcome

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01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: back to one of Bill's lives. Steve Tasker, Christrpasso with

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Speaker 1: you here for another half an hour or so. We've

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Speaker 1: been talking about how well. We talked about a ton

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Speaker 1: of stuff, and at the top of the show we

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Speaker 1: talked about how one of the well Fan Duel ranked

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Speaker 1: the AFC East. They've got the Buffalo Bills finishing third

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Speaker 1: behind the Jets, and then number two of the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: and then just ahead of the Patriots. We've got a

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Speaker 1: friend of our friend of the show in Toronto, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: who has something to say. He might think maybe Fan

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Speaker 1: Duel got it right. Ryan, what's on your mind about

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Speaker 1: the AFC East Street.

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Speaker 6: You're right man. To be honest, I don't feel good

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Speaker 6: about the way Fandel has railed the Bills to be

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Speaker 6: to a place in the FC East, But to be honest,

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Speaker 6: I gotta agree with them. Though. Think about it, Bills

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Speaker 6: took a step back on the roster and Miami still

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Speaker 6: the same roster. Bills have a tougher schedule based on

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Speaker 6: number one seats Daga I had to play all season long,

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Speaker 6: and then also last year Bills had to play the

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Speaker 6: Dolphin end of the year for the AFCA's title. So

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Speaker 6: based on those facts alone, I think Miami has to

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Speaker 6: be on top of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because here's the thing most people will say,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think there's anything wrong with the Bills offense.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to continue keeping on keeping on.

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Speaker 1: Their offensive line is top notch. Obviously, Josh is their

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01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: cook is still there. Kincaid is gonna bolster it. I

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Speaker 1: just think their offense is fine. Defensively is where the

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Speaker 1: Bills had this big turnover. So do the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: No, Christian Wilkins agreed, so.

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Speaker 1: Do the Dolphins. The Dolphins have bigger problems defensively than

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Speaker 1: the Bills do.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, A good point, but what about the schedule

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Speaker 6: company the schedule strength of the Dolphins versuss Bills. I

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Speaker 6: think Bills have a tougher schedule.

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Speaker 1: Was the Dolphins absolutely because they're Yeah, the Bills have

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Speaker 1: a first place schedule. The Dolphins have what second place schedule?

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Speaker 6: And that's where the key is.

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Speaker 1: I think it may be. It may be and the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins schedule, and we're looking at it now, Ryan, we

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Speaker 1: it's they've got the Jaguars, the Seahawks, Titans, Colts, They've

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Speaker 1: got the South in the AFC, as do the Bills.

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Speaker 1: But they've got the Rams, Packers, Niners, Cleveland. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins certainly, Well, let's let's think about this, though, the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins struggle against good teams. They're gonna be some good

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Speaker 1: teams on that on that and that schedule, So I

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Speaker 1: and some it's difficult to get a handle on what

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Speaker 1: it is from but from this end, there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins have an easier schedule than the Bills. But

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Speaker 1: let's face it this too, the Bills have been living

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Speaker 1: with the first play schedule for four straight years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this will be their fifth year. That's where they live,

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Speaker 1: that's where they live.

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Speaker 6: Over that they will be number one E seed every year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's true.

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Speaker 6: Why, Yeah, this is why. When I who opened my

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Speaker 6: eyes like, oh, bango has the Bills at third place?

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Speaker 6: What gold on? Let me get you, I was thinking,

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Speaker 6: we're looking to make a picture. Why would they have it?

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Speaker 6: And that's what I was looking at that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I said this too and earlier in the show.

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Speaker 1: If you have to find a way to talk yourself

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Speaker 1: into the Bills in third place or second place even

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Speaker 1: for that matter, if you have to find your way

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Speaker 1: to talk yourself into it, what are you doing?

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Speaker 6: Don't exactly?

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Speaker 1: The Bills are still the team to be right. Hey, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling. I appreciate you. Stay

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Speaker 1: stay dry.

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Speaker 4: What I would say about the schedule stuff, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to say that this is gospel, but what I

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Speaker 4: quote unquote learned in covering the entire league about five

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Speaker 4: to seven years ago that before the season schedule stuff

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Speaker 4: I never pay attention to. We get between five to

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Speaker 4: seven new play off teams every year, and I believe

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Speaker 4: it's still going where it's been a long time. Where

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Speaker 4: there's at least been one first worst to first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you look at oh Tennessee Titans. Who are they?

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Speaker 4: They just signed Calvin Ridley will Levis into year two,

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Speaker 4: new head coach Tyler Boyd got brought in. Who has

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Speaker 4: a connection to their new head coach Brian Callahan. Are

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Speaker 4: the Colts with Anthony Richardson? Are they going to be

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Speaker 4: back to being a playoff caliber team. There's just so

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Speaker 4: many unknowns where if the league did not have a

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Speaker 4: lot of parody, and you're like, hey, we know we

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Speaker 4: are positive who the ten best teams are, we are

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Speaker 4: positive who the ten worst teams are.

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Speaker 3: Think of last year.

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Speaker 4: The Houston Texans had the second pick in the draft,

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Speaker 4: move up get Will Anderson. Right after that, they go

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Speaker 4: from the number two overall pick to winning a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: So you can look at a schedule and say, oh, man,

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Speaker 4: the Bills are really tough. Miami Dolphins not nearly as difficult.

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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think that's the case. I don't think

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Speaker 4: anyone particularly knows. And how about last year too, with

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Speaker 4: how many quarterbacks got injured, where teams were facing the

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Speaker 4: Bengals down the stretch, they were facing Jake Browning, not

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. Justin Herbert got hurt, the Bills didn't have

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Speaker 4: to face him down the stretch. So I don't ever

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Speaker 4: get too bogged down with before the season's schedules, just

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Speaker 4: because there's so much parody and turnover in each division,

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Speaker 4: in each conference every year in terms of who the

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Speaker 4: best teams are and who ultimately regresses.

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Speaker 3: So it's very hard for me.

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Speaker 4: To look at a schedule and say hard, not hard,

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Speaker 4: because there's just so much parody.

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Speaker 1: Think about this too. Things changed so fast in the

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Speaker 1: NFL two years ago and twenty before last year twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, so it's three years ago down twenty four.

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Speaker 1: But last year, two seasons before last year, the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans were the one.

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Speaker 3: Seed, the one seed with Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: Is the Tennessee Titans worth a one seed in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one in the AFC, that's how fast things change.

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Speaker 1: So I get it. You're right. Even the Bills, as

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Speaker 1: good as they were from front to back last year,

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Speaker 1: they're a different team. At the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: They were at the front, which means all that schedule

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Speaker 1: stuff gets I know this when teams look at their

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Speaker 1: schedule and they see Buffalo on it ain't nobody putting

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Speaker 1: a w there.

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Speaker 4: Automatically, No what I like to do for the schedule

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Speaker 4: instead of saying, oh, man, okay, this team was good

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Speaker 4: last year, they're going to be good next year, or

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Speaker 4: this team was bad, they're going to be bad next year,

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Speaker 4: and just automatically assuming that. I think that's silly, clearly,

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Speaker 4: But I think looking at which.

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks do you play?

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Speaker 4: That I think is a little better of an indicator. Now,

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Speaker 4: there were so many injuries at the quarterbacks spot last

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Speaker 4: year around the entire NFL. We're probably not going to

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Speaker 4: see as much of that in twenty twenty four, just

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Speaker 4: kind of regressing back to the mean. But instead of saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: I think this team is great, what is the gamut

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Speaker 4: of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: That you ultimately have to face?

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Speaker 4: And with someone like Aaron Rodgers, you don't know if

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Speaker 4: he's going to ultimately be healthy for the entire year, obviously,

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Speaker 4: But I think that's a better indicator of if you

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Speaker 4: really want to factor in schedule strength, look at are

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Speaker 4: you facing a lot of rookie quarterbacks? So even the

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Speaker 4: guys with the hype like Caleb Williams or a Drake

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Speaker 4: may or a Jayden Daniels. They're traditionally not going to

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Speaker 4: play at all three at a very high level relative

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Speaker 4: to the Josh Allens and the Patrick Mahomes. Are you

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Speaker 4: facing middle of the road quarterbacks or teams like the Raiders?

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Speaker 4: They don't really have a surefire starter, is it? Aidan

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Speaker 4: O'Connell is at Gardner Minshew Anthony Richardson. We don't really

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Speaker 4: know what to expect from him yet. That's what I

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Speaker 4: like to look at if I ever am pushed into

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Speaker 4: a corner where I get asked, hey, how is this

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Speaker 4: team schedule looking?

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Speaker 3: I look at the quarterbacks more so than the overall teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think about this because who knew last year

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Speaker 1: that the quarterbacks, like, for instance, the New York Jets

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Speaker 1: you got Zach Wilson, Trevor Simeon, Todd Boyle, tem Morestead,

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Speaker 1: Travis Moristead, Aaron Rodgers five quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cleveland Browns too.

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Speaker 1: Right, you go to these teams, it's like that's the

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Speaker 1: You're exactly right. Don't worry about the schedule, worry about

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks you're playing. Even the Bills benefited from that

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Speaker 1: once in a while, Like you said, Trevor Lawrence. I

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Speaker 1: mean not Trevor Lawrence, justin Herbert out in the game

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Speaker 1: that you play against him. Joe Burrow out for the

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks of the season. Remembery popped a calf,

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now he's got a risk injuries,

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Speaker 1: one thing after another. You never know where these guys

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Speaker 1: are going to be. And I think that is the key.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, even in the in the years where

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Speaker 1: the Bills have been going to the playoffs some you know,

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Speaker 1: they played that playoff game against the Dolphins and they

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Speaker 1: had what was the kid's name, Skyler Thomas quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the playoff game. I mean, you're just you're just not

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Speaker 1: gonna win those games if you're those teams going in

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Speaker 1: there with your third string quarterback. So, uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on to this with this schedule thing. And

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Speaker 1: and Ryan from Toronto is right. I mean, it's easy

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Speaker 1: for these entities and media outlets to start ranking teams

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Speaker 1: in the AFC East and and and put to put

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Speaker 1: the Jets up there. The Jets do have a great roster.

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Speaker 1: They got a quarterback coming back off inn Achilles. That

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Speaker 1: in and of itself is something, but the guy's also

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Speaker 1: forty forty one years old.

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Speaker 4: And a big part I still think when he comes

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Speaker 4: to throwing the football, Aaron Rodgers will be one of

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Speaker 4: the most graceful, best passers in the league. But a

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Speaker 4: big part of what made Aaron Rodgers this future first

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Speaker 4: ballot Hall of Famer legendary passer was how good he

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Speaker 4: was on those bootlegs or getting outside the pocket. Not

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Speaker 4: that he was Josh Allen in terms of making guys miss,

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Speaker 4: but throwing on the run. He could throw some darts

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Speaker 4: down the field when he was really mobile early two

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Speaker 4: thousand times, when he was winning the MVPs late in

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Speaker 4: his career in Green Bay, still into his mid to

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Speaker 4: late thirties, was still so functionally mobile. I wonder now,

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Speaker 4: past his fortieth birthday, coming off the Achilles, is that

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Speaker 4: gonna not be as big of his part of his

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Speaker 4: game the injury.

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Speaker 1: He is the gray wild card. It was hard enough

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Speaker 1: for him to do this last year with the roster

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01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: they had and the good player. Now they didn't have

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01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: very good offensive line that showed up immediately. Hence he

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Speaker 1: didn't finish the first series of his first game. But

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Speaker 1: this is a roster that is there to support him.

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Speaker 1: They've pushed all their chips into the table, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. And to have him come out there. Listen,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt the guy has it upstairs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's even the people who criticize him have to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: how smart the guy is and how he's an eccentric. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: but the guy's sharp and as a quarterback, that's job one.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna see it and he's going to know where

1714
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: to go with a football. If he's physically able to

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01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: sling it, they're going to be really good. They were

1716
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: horrifically outgunned at quarterback last year for the whole season

1717
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: with a really, really good roster, and that's got to

1718
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: be the most frustrating thing as a Jets fan to

1719
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: know that, even if they think about it, if they

1720
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: go out there and they all their hopes and dreams

1721
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: come true, he plays great, they go to the super Bowl,

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01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: they win it, they're gonna think and we should add two,

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01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: we should add two.

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01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, what I think is to kind of move

1725
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 4: off the Jets part of this projection with fan duel.

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01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 4: It's easy to do because the Bills have had a

1727
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 4: lot of turnover and going into any of the last

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 4: three offseasons. I feel like the Bills were probably always

1729
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 4: projected to be the team to beat in the AFC

1730
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 4: East because they were able to retain so much talent

1731
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 4: with we thought, you know, Matt Malonald was going to

1732
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 4: be gone after the AFC title Game.

1733
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 3: He resigns.

1734
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 4: Jordan Poyer last season, same thing. Oh he's going to

1735
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 4: hit free agency sign a big deal, comes back to Buffalo.

1736
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 4: The Bills really didn't lose a lot, so a lot

1737
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 4: of the same players that we were all watching every

1738
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 4: single week, and the Bills, of course, we've seen it

1739
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 4: in the last five years. It's been a boom of

1740
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 4: how much primetime appearances they've gotten. It was easy for

1741
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 4: a fan Duel or a fan in Seattle, Washington to go, oh, yeah,

1742
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 4: I know Matt Malona, Well, I know h Tremayn Adamants.

1743
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: Now there's just been a lot of turnovers. So it's

1744
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 4: a little bit easier for a site like FanDuel to say, hey, look,

1745
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 4: I don't really know who a lot of these guys are,

1746
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 4: but you made a lot of the same mistakes with

1747
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 4: the Chiefs post Tyreek Hill and look what happened.

1748
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. As well, Steve Taster and Christapassa,

1749
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the tweet sheet now. From Vince,

1750
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: this is lessons the Bills can take from twenty twenty

1751
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: three From Vince, he says it's not necessarily not necessarily

1752
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: a lesson, but more of a reminder that being successful

1753
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 1: in the NFL requires having quality depth at all positions.

1754
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: Last year's playoffs were the perfect example. If Milano and

1755
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: Bernard play in that last game, we win. Quality depth

1756
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: was not available.

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01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all about raising that floor. I think that's

1758
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: vital for as much as.

1759
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: You got Yeah, you gotta be hitting on all cylinders.

1760
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 4: For as much as as it's a star driven league,

1761
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 4: and we're all aware of it with fantasy football and

1762
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 4: with how easy it is to watch auto market games today.

1763
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: But I really think the best teams are the ones

1764
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 4: that their their Their fifty third play is better than

1765
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 4: all the other teams fifty third players.

1766
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: From Ty, he says, you can be a pass first

1767
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: offense while having a dynamic running game that you can

1768
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: lean on. The offense doesn't have to be quote balanced

1769
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: as long as each player stays hungry. I think that's

1770
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: that's true. We talked about that during this show. Having

1771
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: different ways to win is crucial because then if there

1772
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 1: is some way, shape or form a team does manage

1773
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: to contain Josh Allen in his leg and all that,

1774
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,799
Speaker 1: you got Khalis Shakira, Dalton Kinkaid or Curtis Samuel or whoever,

1775
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: whoever who's gonna jump out and say listen. And they

1776
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: won it with four touchdown passes on dump balls, dumped

1777
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 1: off balls or that kind of thing.

1778
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was so I've talked so much about the

1779
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 4: Cowboys game with James Cook going over two hundred yards.

1780
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 4: It wasn't really a Josh Allen game. They beat a

1781
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 4: playoff team at home. They thumped them with the run game.

1782
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 4: Another thing that I remember from last year in that

1783
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 4: Eagles game that was I mean, Josh Allen was fantastic

1784
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 4: in that game, but it was a rain soaked performance

1785
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 4: where it was probably would have been better to just

1786
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 4: run the ball. One thing I recall is in the

1787
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 4: second half as the Bills kind of came back, there

1788
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 4: was a drive where the I think Josh Allen threw

1789
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 4: like one pass and it was just run Latavious Murray,

1790
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 4: James Cook, Ty Johnson, They walked, They waltz right down

1791
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 4: the field scored a touchdown, and I was like, that

1792
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 4: was the first time that I could remember since the

1793
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 4: you know, Josh Allen eras started twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen

1794
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 4: where he became the full time starter where it was

1795
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 4: a touchdown drive that did not feature Josh Allen making

1796
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 4: some ridiculous play with his arm.

1797
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. The more ways you can win,

1798
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: the easier it's going to be to get another step

1799
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: closer to the Super Bowl. Steve Taster, christ Tapaser, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break, come back and finish things up

1801
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: right after this. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. You're listening

1802
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: Steve Taster Christaph Fasser here to close things out in

1804
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: the next minute or so. Go back to the tweet

1805
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: sheet the line and from Brian. He says, linebackers are

1806
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: lighter for coverage purposes, but so is our running back

1807
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: one at look what Allen does at the second level

1808
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 1: trucking dudes, we need a bruiser as a running back. Okay,

1809
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, that's definitely. It'll fall off the tree.

1810
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean a Bruiser is like a two thirty guy.

1811
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely a shift.

1812
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 4: And I think even if if Brian here is talking

1813
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 4: about linebackers, it's a shift that we're going to see

1814
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 4: maybe with the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh that he's going

1815
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 4: to look at some of these lighter defensive boxes and

1816
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 4: try to run the football. I think Baltimore with Derrick Henry,

1817
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 4: so it probably wouldn't hurt for the Bills to have

1818
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 4: a little bit more size either up front on the

1819
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 4: defensive line or at the linebacker spot.

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01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 3: But the majority of teams.

1821
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 4: That you're going to face, and you're looking at the

1822
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 4: Bengals and the Chiefs in the AFC as the two

1823
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,879
Speaker 4: real other juggernauts, they're gonna want to throw the football

1824
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 4: and that coverage ability is huge.

1825
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: Last one from Steve on the tweet sheet. They need

1826
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: to identify what the difference was that made them go

1827
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: six one down the stretch after starting out five and five.

1828
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: Getting off to a strong start is going to be

1829
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: very important this year with our schedule. The Bills always

1830
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: seem to be a tough team down the stretch with

1831
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: our coaching staff, that's true.

1832
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 3: Spreading the football, they turn it.

1833
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: Around, they turn it on, and we talked about Josh

1834
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: having easy button throws and getting the ball out of

1835
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 1: his hands. Last year worked to a large degree at the.

1836
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 3: End of season, not worrying about Hey, am I throwing

1837
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: it to fourteen? Is he mad?

1838
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 4: What's happening? We've heard Tom Brady and Jordan Love talk

1839
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 4: about that. I'm sure Patrick Mahomes too. Just throwing it

1840
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 4: to the guy open matters more than anything else.

1841
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us today, Steve Task Christophosso. The two

1842
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: of us will be back with you tomorrow. Come back

1843
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: and join us one Bill's Live here at one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you then.