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Speaker 2: be a very daunting task. Yeah, dot Tyrese Halliburton, who
Speaker 2: is the All NBA player, the All Star and the
Speaker 2: Pacers led the game until the very end, but the
Speaker 2: Celtics and Drew Holliday gets a three point play on
Speaker 2: one end to give him a one point lead, strips
Speaker 2: the ball from them hard on the other end and
Speaker 2: hits two free throws, and so they end up winning
Speaker 2: the game one fourteen to one to eleven. The Boston
Speaker 2: Celtics trail much of the the ent tirey of the game.
Speaker 2: The last time they led until they took the lead
Speaker 2: for good. They led thirty two to thirty one. I
Speaker 2: don't really know what else the Pacers can do, Ocho, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because they can't play any better. Pascal Siakam had twenty
Speaker 2: two points. Miles Turner had twenty two points and ten rebounds.
Speaker 2: Hard he had thirty two points. TJ McConnell came off
Speaker 2: the bench. He gave he gave you twenty three points.
Speaker 2: They had four guys with twenty plus points. They shot
Speaker 2: from the floor, but Boston wins the three point line again.
Speaker 2: Boston wins the free throw line again. And that's the
Speaker 2: difference in the ball game. And plus the Pacers had
Speaker 2: some untimely turnovers. You've got when you're playing a team
Speaker 2: that that's that better than you. Ye this, there's nowhere
Speaker 2: around it. Your they're five is better than your five.
Speaker 2: You can dig back into the game when you bring
Speaker 2: your bench in, because we know the type of bench
Speaker 2: that the Pacers possessed. But the starting five from the
Speaker 2: for the Celtics are better than the starting five for
Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers. And you can't turn the ball over,
Speaker 2: O Joe, Miles Turner had five turnovers. You look at
Speaker 2: the points off off a turnover. Let me go to
Speaker 2: the team stats right quick. I'll give you that and
Speaker 2: don't let you chime in and see tell me what
Speaker 2: you thought points off turnover. Boston had twenty mm HM
Speaker 2: and they So you're gonna give them twenty points off
Speaker 2: your turnovers, you're gonna lose the three point line.
Speaker 6: You lost.
Speaker 2: They got their plus thirty three from there three point
Speaker 2: line their plus, they shot what twelve more free throws?
Speaker 2: They made six more free throws, So that's thirty nine
Speaker 2: points that.
Speaker 3: They're better than you.
Speaker 2: Well when you throw in and you got thirteen off
Speaker 2: their turnovers, so seven, so that's forty that's forty six
Speaker 2: points that you gave up paces.
Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be a sweet O Joe.
Speaker 2: I think this series is over on Monday, and Boston
Speaker 2: is gonna have a rest for the stated period of
Speaker 2: time for an opportunity to get Christophe Frazinger's back healthy.
Speaker 3: What'd you take from the game tonight, O Joe, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, listen, First off, the Pacers love run up and down,
Speaker 5: up and down, up and down, up and down, up
Speaker 5: and down the court. Yes, they only had five threes
Speaker 5: a night normally. You know, I forgot, I forgot. You
Speaker 5: might know the quote a little better than me. You
Speaker 5: cut their head off a snake, the rest of the
Speaker 5: body dies. Yes, So I'm thinking, well, they showed other
Speaker 5: other than that tonight.
Speaker 6: No, no Halliburton to night.
Speaker 5: But again, everybody else stepped up and played superior ball.
Speaker 5: They like, like you said, they led most of the game,
Speaker 5: and the turnovers is what killed them. The turnover man, god,
Speaker 5: damn nim hard Man was phenomenal. Miles Turnoup was phenomenal.
Speaker 5: Siakam was phenomenal. The turnovers hurt, Yep, the turnovers hurt.
Speaker 6: But it was a good game. I was hoping. I
Speaker 6: was hoping they could.
Speaker 5: They could have held on in one tonight's game. But
Speaker 5: oft I think the Celtics were a little bit, a
Speaker 5: little bit, just a little bit too much.
Speaker 6: And I mean they're starting five is is better?
Speaker 3: Better?
Speaker 6: Then the Pagers.
Speaker 5: Starting five, and with the Athens Tyler Halliburton, Tyrese Halliburton,
Speaker 5: it makes it that much more difficult. But they played
Speaker 5: with some hard to night man and showed that they
Speaker 5: could almost get it done.
Speaker 6: But it's just not enough.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Pacer fans believe they should be up to one.
Speaker 2: They were in a very similar situation in game one,
Speaker 2: had the Game one and they smashed defeat from the
Speaker 2: jaws of victory. And the nights game, they're up, They're
Speaker 2: up eight points late in the fourth, they're up as
Speaker 2: many as eighteen, they're up by it. They're up by
Speaker 2: eight in the fourth quarter. And the turnovers and the
Speaker 2: mistakes and the defensive assignments leaving guys, you leave al
Speaker 2: Horford for a wide open three, the three ball, Yes,
Speaker 2: he had the three ball going. You can't continuously make
Speaker 2: those stakes mistakes. It's the mistakes at the most inopportune times,
Speaker 2: because you can't say all mistakes are not created equal.
Speaker 2: When you if I turn the ball over in the
Speaker 2: first quarter, or if I throw a pick in the
Speaker 2: first quarter, I could that's not the same as a
Speaker 2: pick to end the game. That's not the same as
Speaker 2: a pick late in the ball game. That's not the same,
Speaker 2: even though if it's still an interception and it goes.
Speaker 3: On you, it goes on you against you. But they're
Speaker 3: not the same.
Speaker 2: Turnovers, misdefensive assignments, they don't weigh the same. They weigh
Speaker 2: more according to where we are in the course of
Speaker 2: the ballgame. And that's when I look at it and
Speaker 2: watch this game very very closely. That was the difference
Speaker 2: in the ballgame. Jason Tatum had it going tonight. A
Speaker 2: He had thirty six twelve or twenty three, five or ten.
Speaker 2: He didn't shoot the free throws very well. I know
Speaker 2: he's very disappointed by that, but he had an outstanding game.
Speaker 2: He was thirty six, ten and eight with a steal
Speaker 2: and two blocks.
Speaker 6: He must have watched the show.
Speaker 5: He must he must have watched the show because we
Speaker 5: just talked about Jason Tatum not showing up and Jayson
Speaker 5: Brown being the better player throughout not just this series,
Speaker 5: but the playoffs in general, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum said hold my beer, yeah, and came out
Speaker 5: and showed the hell out to night.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: J he's gonna have he's gonna have to play like that.
Speaker 5: Consistently, especially once you get to this next once you
Speaker 5: get to this this damn finals.
Speaker 2: Yes, Jaylen Brown had twenty four points. He was ten
Speaker 2: of eighteen, one to five. Derrick White was three of eleven,
Speaker 2: two of eight, five or six from the free throw line.
Speaker 3: Holliday was four of ten.
Speaker 2: He didn't shoot the three ball well, he was perfect
Speaker 2: from the five line, played outstanding defense when he absolutely
Speaker 2: needed you. Al Horford was the difference in the ball
Speaker 2: game because time after time he made timely three after
Speaker 2: timely three, after timely three, he's seven to twelve from
Speaker 2: the three.
Speaker 3: He had twenty three points. Excuse me, and.
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum has thirty six, ten and eight, almost the
Speaker 2: triple double. But the difference in the ball game. And
Speaker 2: you look at the Pacers bench. You got twenty three
Speaker 2: from McConnell.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 2: You got a dude from us, So you got twenty three,
Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty seven, you got thirty one points from
Speaker 2: your bench. You outscored him from a bench points thirty
Speaker 2: one to four. And that's how PACER's beat you. They're
Speaker 2: able to bring guys up the bench. I love TJ.
Speaker 2: McConnell's game boy. He's he's tough, he can make big
Speaker 2: time shots. He's gonna play outstanding defense. Yes, he's undersize
Speaker 2: what he lacks and and what your physical traits. He
Speaker 2: more than makes up with heart and desire and determination.
Speaker 2: But I thought the Pacers had this game. I thought
Speaker 2: they could make this a series. I don't think there's
Speaker 2: anybody out there, with the exception of Boston fans, that
Speaker 2: don't think the Pacers should be up to.
Speaker 3: One right now.
Speaker 2: Boston fans like nah, nah blah, you know, but I
Speaker 2: believe they should be up to one.
Speaker 3: And to think the thing is O joe when you
Speaker 3: look at it.
Speaker 2: People are saying Rick Carlisle should have called a time
Speaker 2: out when they got that rebound. He should have called
Speaker 2: a time out, But I understand why he didn't because
Speaker 2: he didn't want Boston to set up their defense. A
Speaker 2: lot of times, when you call a time out, you're
Speaker 2: gonna allow team to set a defense.
Speaker 3: To you.
Speaker 2: Everybody's helped the skelter that you know all over the place.
Speaker 2: But give Holliday credit. He's a strong guy, and once
Speaker 2: he feels you can make contact with his little body,
Speaker 2: he's gonna reach in with the polk and he got it.
Speaker 6: Out.
Speaker 2: He made an outstanding play, and so give him credit
Speaker 2: for that. I don't have a problem with car not
Speaker 2: calling a time out. Maybe nim Hard needed to slow
Speaker 2: it down, but I understand he's like, well, then helped
Speaker 2: the skepter.
Speaker 5: Just first, say that that clock, that clock, that clock running.
Speaker 5: You know how many times it nim Hard been in
Speaker 5: that situation where the clock is going down. Normally the
Speaker 5: ball in that situation would be in someone else's hands.
Speaker 2: You hope, you hope we've been in Halliburton's hand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but think about it. Nim Hard knows that the clock,
Speaker 2: he's under the gun from the clock. Yes, who else
Speaker 2: knows that holiday holiday? He knows he's got to do
Speaker 2: something suddenly. So now he gets to play like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got to make a move here, and once you
Speaker 2: go behind your back, well, I know you want to
Speaker 2: go in that direction. That's the reason you put the
Speaker 2: ball behind your back. You no longer want to go
Speaker 2: in the direction with your left hand. You put it
Speaker 2: behind your back and try to get to your shooting hand.
Speaker 2: When he knows that, he reaches in, he gets the
Speaker 2: poke out and he made an outstanding play.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I don't know if the Pacers.
Speaker 2: Can play any better than what they played tonight. I
Speaker 2: don't see it, O Joe, I don't see it. You
Speaker 2: got four guys with at least twenty plus points. You
Speaker 2: shoot almost fifty one percent from the floor. The only
Speaker 2: thing is the three ball is killing you. You're five
Speaker 2: to twenty two. They're twenty three percent from the three.
Speaker 2: The Celtics are thirty five percent, but they're sixteen or
Speaker 2: forty six. So that's the plus thirty three from the
Speaker 2: three point line and their plus six as far as
Speaker 2: makes from the free throw line, plus the twenty points
Speaker 2: that you get plus your minus seven you were down
Speaker 2: in the points off turnover. I just don't see how
Speaker 2: they play any better than what they played the night
Speaker 2: in Joe.
Speaker 5: The only thing they can do is get those four
Speaker 5: individuals that played very well tonight, the keep on keep
Speaker 5: that same momentum going to the next game and then
Speaker 5: and then be able to hit the threes and eliminate
Speaker 5: the turnovers, and then they'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Well, Boston says, what happened when we make our threes,
Speaker 2: we was only thirty five percent. We take more, make
Speaker 2: more than anybody in the NBA this year. Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough you lose Halle, Who's, you know, the heartbeat
Speaker 2: of your team. He's the guy that gets it all going.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to calm you down. But we saw what
Speaker 2: happened to him in Game one because what we lawed
Speaker 2: him for during the regular season. He had a couple
Speaker 2: of gaffs in late in Game one that ended up
Speaker 2: costing them the game. And in this game here, they
Speaker 2: had a couple of miscues blown defensive assignment turnovers late
Speaker 2: that ended up costing them the game as well. But
Speaker 2: give the Celtics credit to credit. The Celtics go on
Speaker 2: the road in a very hostile environment and find a
Speaker 2: way to claude a victory one fourteen to one to eleven,
Speaker 2: and they're one win away from going to the NBA
Speaker 2: Finals to face the winner of the Mavericks and the
Speaker 2: Timberwolve series. So give those guys credit. Give Boston credit.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why they won as many games as
Speaker 2: they did. There's a reason why they're the No. One
Speaker 2: overall seed. They have two guys that make the that
Speaker 2: made the All Star Game. They have a first team
Speaker 2: All NBA selection and Jason Tatum. Derrek White is an
Speaker 2: outstanding because they can switch everything they have out. Derek
Speaker 2: White is an outstanding defensive guard, so is Holiday big
Speaker 2: Al can play defense. We know JT and and JB
Speaker 2: can switch everything. So congratulations with them on a very
Speaker 2: hard for victory. They go up three to ohver a
Speaker 2: chance to close this thing out on a Memorial Day.
Speaker 2: Last night, the MAVs in the Wolves, Luca Luca Magic.
Speaker 2: I keep telling it. I've been telling people I've been
Speaker 2: I've been helping the Luca. For a minute, the MAVs
Speaker 2: will became an eighteen point deficit. Lucas steeled the victory
Speaker 2: with a game winning step back three pointer over the
Speaker 2: defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert. Luca finished the
Speaker 2: game with another another triple double, another thirty point triple double,
Speaker 2: also thirty two points, thirteen sists, ten rebounds, Kyrie Irvin
Speaker 2: twenty point six and sis four rebounds. Kyrie had what
Speaker 2: fourteen points in the third quarter. Naz Reid, the sixth
Speaker 2: Man of the Year, led the timber Woods with a
Speaker 2: career high twenty three points.
Speaker 3: Seven and nine for three.
Speaker 2: Nobody's don't remember that because he missed the last way
Speaker 2: and they looked good where I was sitting for where
Speaker 2: look where I was sitting, O Joe. It looked good again,
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards and called Anthony town struggle. They scored thirty
Speaker 2: six points on thirty three shots. Towns didn't play much
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. He was subbed out and he
Speaker 2: didn't come back in during that time. Ant Man checked
Speaker 2: out of the game seven fifty three. He came back
Speaker 2: with that the five to fifty one mark. He was
Speaker 2: in the tunnel receiving oxygen.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yet, yeah, my dog had to get some oxygen. That
Speaker 6: that's it. He had to get some oxygen.
Speaker 3: Well, he said, he wanted Kyrie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what happened when you got to
Speaker 5: get Kyrie and you got to and you got to
Speaker 5: lock up and try to play defense on arguably the
Speaker 5: best one of, if not the best handlers of the
Speaker 5: ball that has ever played this game. So it's it's
Speaker 5: been a tall task. It's been a very tall feat
Speaker 5: for a man. And because he's had the cover Kyrie
Speaker 5: and his chosen to take on that task, it's affected
Speaker 5: him offensively on the office the end of the both
Speaker 5: the end of the game and he twenty two any time,
Speaker 5: So what did that tell you would it take the cover.
Speaker 3: You can't get tired of twenty two? Hello on.
Speaker 2: Coby tired at twenty two? Yeah, with Jordans tired of
Speaker 2: twenty two?
Speaker 6: Yep, they called.
Speaker 3: For the most part, there was.
Speaker 5: There was no Kyrie Irving back then. And that's no
Speaker 5: disrespect to anybody else.
Speaker 2: If they had guys that could go get buckets. Did
Speaker 2: they have guys that could go get buckets?
Speaker 6: See, you can't always you always had that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you got to try to neutralize him on
Speaker 2: one end while still giving But see that's what makes
Speaker 2: the guy's great. Yes, sir, when lebron was in his prime,
Speaker 2: he could take Kevin Durant, try to hold him under
Speaker 2: what he would normally get, and while giving you what
Speaker 2: I normally give you on the other end, And Michael
Speaker 2: and Kobe and the big guys. When you saw David
Speaker 2: Robinson have to go up against Eliju Wan Eliju One
Speaker 2: have to go up against Shaq, Shaq have to go
Speaker 2: up against other centers, you still got to try to
Speaker 2: neutralize them. I gotta try to shut you down, keep
Speaker 2: you under what you normally do, because if you allow
Speaker 2: God to get what he normally does, you.
Speaker 3: Ain't did nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh Joe, if you play a DV and
Speaker 2: they okay, you going to you average, Let's just say,
Speaker 2: for the sake of argument, you're averaging five six catches
Speaker 2: a game for like eighty five ninety yards.
Speaker 3: He lets you get those numbers, but what the hell
Speaker 3: have you done?
Speaker 2: Your job is to keep Ocho under that eighty five
Speaker 2: ninety yards. I don't kid up about to catch it.
Speaker 2: I want you to keep him those the yard. I
Speaker 2: want you to keep him out of the end zone.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's tough. And if you go back and
Speaker 2: look the last three games at Manhattan, shot the ball, well,
Speaker 2: why he had to guard Jamal Murray. Take some look
Speaker 2: out of your legs. You had to guard Kyrie both games.
Speaker 2: Takes a lot out of your legs. Yeah, And if
Speaker 2: i'd them, I put him on somebody else that's not
Speaker 2: going to because I need him on the other end,
Speaker 2: O Joe, Yeah you do.
Speaker 3: I need him on the other.
Speaker 5: End, especially when, especially when Cat's not playing well. Cat
Speaker 5: Cat wasn't playing well. I mean Rudy gold Berg, Rudy Goberg,
Speaker 5: how he said it last name the right way. I
Speaker 5: don't want to say Bear Rudy Go Bear, Yes, go Bear.
Speaker 5: It's not an offensive threat obviously if he if he's
Speaker 5: under the rim by the rem movies in the post,
Speaker 5: he is, you know, Jay McDaniels, Yeah, Young Bull only
Speaker 5: had two points.
Speaker 6: Young Bull only had two points.
Speaker 3: Man, that bad deal. A wait, Luca, how about the
Speaker 3: boys you thought you'll give you?
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, come on that you know?
Speaker 5: So, I mean it's difficult, and I think they need
Speaker 5: to make some adjustments, some tactical schematical adjustments going to
Speaker 5: the neck game against the mav because we need ant
Speaker 5: man to be ant man, and it's hard for a
Speaker 5: man to be ant man and give us what we
Speaker 5: want from the offensive standpoint when he's having to chase
Speaker 5: Kyrie around.
Speaker 6: That's that's that's unfair, even if he did call for it.
Speaker 6: It's unfair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they're not.
Speaker 2: But see, normally, what your best player does is he
Speaker 2: take probably the weakest offensive player on the other end.
Speaker 2: So therefore he can rest. Uh, therefore he can rest
Speaker 2: and not exert so much energy. I mean, it's it's look,
Speaker 2: it's a special type of person.
Speaker 3: We've seen.
Speaker 2: Kobe does it. Kobe wanted that assignment. But if you
Speaker 2: go back and look at Jordan's when they played Magic
Speaker 2: in ninety one, Jordan took Magic, Magic had a triple double,
Speaker 2: and the Lakers won the game, Game Game, Game two
Speaker 2: through five. The Bulls won the next four games. Scotty
Speaker 2: Pippin took Magic.
Speaker 5: A so so bingo with they're the proof is in
Speaker 5: the pudding. Get your best player off of Kyrie.
Speaker 2: It was it would mainly because of the size differential.
Speaker 2: Magic is six nine and a half Jordan's six six.
Speaker 2: So Magic just goes back in Magic post.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Magic just going back it down and then
Speaker 2: shoot over the top of you. But they put Scotty
Speaker 2: Pippen on it. Scotty pick him up ninety four feet,
Speaker 2: Let's try to wear him down. But you look at Kobe.
Speaker 2: Kobe always want Kobe. Kobe ain't know any better. Kobe
Speaker 2: always wanted who is it? If you gotta go, if
Speaker 2: a guard is your best player, Kobe want that assignment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Lebron used to have to take you know,
Speaker 2: you go back to look at Lebron when they played
Speaker 2: the Bulls the year that the Derrick Rose won the MVP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lebron took the Rose.
Speaker 5: Well, whoa, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa what before post before
Speaker 5: the injury rolls post. Yeah, that explosion Lebron took him.
Speaker 5: Go back to look at it, Go back and look
Speaker 5: at the San Antonio Spurs Tony Parker. They lost the
Speaker 5: first game.
Speaker 2: Lebron took Tony Parker for the basically, especially in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: He locked him down the rest of the game.
Speaker 5: Wait, yeah, I want to know what the results of
Speaker 5: the Lebron and Derek Rose when he was in his prime.
Speaker 6: With that one for one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they went for one because the bulls
Speaker 2: that you had the best, had the best record, right,
Speaker 2: and still you have to, like I said, when you're
Speaker 2: the offensive guy, you try to like see like Bird.
Speaker 2: They was like, Okay, Bird, we're gonna give you the
Speaker 2: worst defensive guy because we need your offense.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It don't do me no good. You shut that guy
Speaker 2: down and Bird give you eight points. Bird need to
Speaker 2: give you them twenty five, ten and ten. That's what
Speaker 2: he needs to do. Your offensive guys who you're counting
Speaker 2: on because you going to the game.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: Okay, I need JT to give me his average. I
Speaker 2: need Jaylen Brown to give me his average. I need
Speaker 2: Derek White to give me his average. That Derek White
Speaker 2: knows that summertime, his offense is gonna suffer because he
Speaker 2: has to guard Tyree's Halliburton. He has to guard one
Speaker 2: of the better players on the offensive end, especially when
Speaker 2: it's a guard. So he understands that that's why you
Speaker 2: have JT. That's why you have JB that can pick
Speaker 2: up the slack. But when you have guys, if Cad
Speaker 2: is not picking up the slack where you get it,
Speaker 2: you can't count. I ain't count, no Roody go better.
Speaker 2: Ever give me twenty points in the playoffs. So I'd
Speaker 2: be foolish to think that. So you're saying, Cat, you're
Speaker 2: saying and if you take Kyrie and you can somewhat
Speaker 2: neutralize him, we know that's gonna take some sap out
Speaker 2: of your legs. A cat, I need you to give
Speaker 2: me begiving me about thirty. Yeah, that's what and that's
Speaker 2: what it comes down to. And see, that's what makes
Speaker 2: them so unique is that you got Luca and you
Speaker 2: got Kyrie and you see what they did. Oh the
Speaker 2: last two shots, Kyrie hit a corner three, the made
Speaker 2: of the two point game. They get a rebound, they
Speaker 2: call the time out and now Lucas says, may I
Speaker 2: have this dance?
Speaker 3: Mister listen, I'm tripping.
Speaker 5: Why would Rudy Gobert even be out there, be out
Speaker 5: there in a situation like that.
Speaker 6: I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 5: It's a defensive player of the year now, the defensive
Speaker 5: player of the year. He's great at being in being
Speaker 5: when he's down.
Speaker 3: Here by the three.
Speaker 5: They need somebody with a little bit better lateral movement
Speaker 5: and quickness.
Speaker 6: That should have been Cat.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he wouldn't have done Cat like that,
Speaker 5: because Luke will probably do ninety eight percent of the
Speaker 5: NBA players like that. Yes, whoever bringing out there, you know,
Speaker 5: out there by the three, but just someone that would
Speaker 5: give him a better chance one Once he created that
Speaker 5: separation with that step.
Speaker 3: Back, yeah, it was it was.
Speaker 6: It was a wrap. It was a rap.
Speaker 2: They're down two points. Why do you care if Luca
Speaker 2: gets the way up Now we're tired and we get.
Speaker 6: The ball back. Yeah, and then now you got the
Speaker 6: last shot.
Speaker 5: So if anything, I'm overtime exactly, I would apply for
Speaker 5: a sure.
Speaker 6: Don't even worry about the three. Don't even worry about
Speaker 6: don't even.
Speaker 5: Worry about the three pressing pressing, either make him lets
Speaker 5: you know, in that.
Speaker 3: Situation, I'm gonna get the ball out of his hand.
Speaker 5: The getting ready to say that. Let somebody else beat
Speaker 5: you in that situation.
Speaker 2: Other than Kyrie, other than Luca, are not shooting that
Speaker 2: last shot.
Speaker 3: If PJ.
Speaker 2: Washington want to take that shot, If Derrick Jones want
Speaker 2: to take that shot, that's anybody. If anybody else wants
Speaker 2: to take that last shot, I'm gonna live with that.
Speaker 2: But Kyrie and Luca, I'm gonna blitz Kyrie. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blitz Luka. I'm gona trapped. I gotta make
Speaker 2: him give it up.
Speaker 6: So so can we blame the coach on that?
Speaker 5: As soon as the pick, as soon as the pick happened,
Speaker 5: soon as they did the pick and the switch happened,
Speaker 5: and god damn, Rudy, we ended up on Luca. Somebody
Speaker 5: else should have trapped right away, right away, so that
Speaker 5: the coach's fault.
Speaker 2: That's why the Wolves lost. That's that's why I'm blaming you.
Speaker 2: Gotta say je no under no circumstan answers?
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you giving up on it? Don't switch it? Oh?
Speaker 3: Don't no? Hell now don't switch it because.
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing though, O yo, once you switch it,
Speaker 2: not Rudy Goberts on lucer. So you tell him don't switch. No,
Speaker 2: And then he thinks, say, hey, when they come with that,
Speaker 2: let's bless him. Let's trap him. You come with the jade,
Speaker 2: We're gonna trap him. We're gonna make him give the
Speaker 2: ball up.
Speaker 6: Damn man.
Speaker 2: And then I'm trying to figure out why the hell
Speaker 2: Rudy gobars on the court for the last shot?
Speaker 3: What the hell he gonna do? You're not gonna throw
Speaker 3: it to it? It is only three SIPs.
Speaker 6: Why was Kat on the bench help me understand?
Speaker 3: I asked that, I'm sure he's not.
Speaker 2: I think he'd have been he'd have been happy had
Speaker 2: they won, even though it's difficult because it's like I'm
Speaker 2: one of their best I'm one of the two best
Speaker 2: players on the team of that period, and I'm not
Speaker 2: in the game in the fourth quarter because I think
Speaker 2: he checked out with eight forty to go in the game,
Speaker 2: and he didn't check back in even on the last shot.
Speaker 5: Whose decision is that is that the coaches that him?
Speaker 5: Is there an injury that we don't know about?
Speaker 2: No, it's not an injury. But I think the thing
Speaker 2: is is that nas Read that checked in. If I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, I think nas Read checked in for it.
Speaker 2: And when in the process of that, Nas was playing well,
Speaker 2: So I can't sub him back out, and you want
Speaker 2: to keep Rudy on the court for defensive purposes. So
Speaker 2: now and we're and and it's niptuck ball game, and
Speaker 2: so I can see, I see both sides of the coin.
Speaker 6: I got it, I got it now, I got it.
Speaker 5: Stick with the hot hand, stick with hot hell nots
Speaker 5: ended up with twenty three points. Yeah, he had a
Speaker 5: great look at that three, I think. I mean, from
Speaker 5: where I was sitting, I'm like, dangn Derek Jones, what
Speaker 5: are you thinking? Why are you coming? Why would you come?
Speaker 2: Why would you come to double ant ant struggling shooting
Speaker 2: the ball right? And give them naz Reid, who's stroked
Speaker 2: it from the three, a wide open look at it.
Speaker 2: He did everything but put it down because it looked good.
Speaker 3: And you see that one.
Speaker 6: Yeah when right when right In came back at But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough on Rudy because when people look at the
Speaker 2: defensive player of the year. They're like, well, damn, why
Speaker 2: everybody don't want to get to switch on you? Why
Speaker 2: everybody want to pick on you? Because he's a rim protector.
Speaker 2: He's not a perimeter defender. And he does I mean, bro,
Speaker 2: how much lateral quickness you think you're gonna have at
Speaker 2: seven foot seven foot?
Speaker 6: Not not much unless you women Yama, yes, and.
Speaker 2: So when you look at it, and you look at
Speaker 2: it and that and that, like, he's not like an
Speaker 2: athletic achem olaija Wan.
Speaker 3: He's not an athletic David Robinson.
Speaker 2: Guys that had great lateral movement had tremendous change the record.
Speaker 2: But I'm not so sure. But when Lucas start dancing
Speaker 2: like that, you had his mercy, you hope. You're like, Lord,
Speaker 2: please don't let them let this ball go in, please,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna get the shot off. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 2: not stopping it unless you understand, because but you're not
Speaker 2: thinking in that moment.
Speaker 3: Hell, I don't care if he beat me to the basket.
Speaker 2: Now we're tied. The only way I can lose this
Speaker 2: game is if I let Luca hit a three. That's
Speaker 2: the only way we can lose. We can't lose this
Speaker 2: game in regulation if Luca lays this ball up and
Speaker 2: he hits the two point shot, because we two and
Speaker 2: we got what three seconds left in the ball game,
Speaker 2: and we got the ball at our end of the
Speaker 2: court because we called time out.
Speaker 3: The only way we lose if I let him get
Speaker 3: off for three.
Speaker 2: So once Luca starts dancing and I got him out
Speaker 2: of position, now it's just all de pins.
Speaker 3: Well, if I got a fish.
Speaker 2: The one thing, oh Joe, you don't say you don't
Speaker 2: like to fish, but the one thing of fishman knows,
Speaker 2: once we get a bigger one on the line, we
Speaker 2: can't let him off.
Speaker 3: We got to bring him. We got to bring him in.
Speaker 2: So once you get the fish, I got to take
Speaker 2: it to the market or else what how many time
Speaker 2: you hurt? Somebody say, man, I had one to day,
Speaker 2: but that joker got back. Lucas said, I can't let
Speaker 2: you get back, Rudy. So he started dancing on there.
Speaker 2: I'm going, oh no, I'm forget. Oh you're right there,
Speaker 2: we're here.
Speaker 3: Take this with you.
Speaker 6: Hold that hit it too.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. Once once you get the big one,
Speaker 3: o Joe, you gotta keep it. You can't give it.
Speaker 2: You can't hold it too tight because you can't give
Speaker 2: it too much because you'll spin you out.
Speaker 3: Hey I got a big one. I got a big one.
Speaker 3: Holy holy right there, don't let it go.
Speaker 6: Man, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Man, I'm I'm I'm mad because listen, I with confidence. Listen,
Speaker 5: I said, with confidence before this series even started. Oh man,
Speaker 5: the Wolves got this. I said, the Wolves got this.
Speaker 5: Say and ain't nowhere in hell and losing this series?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm thinking ship, I got the Wolves in
Speaker 5: the fires.
Speaker 6: Shoot.
Speaker 5: I said it got there, I said, I said, I
Speaker 5: said that. I said the Wolves in seven and right
Speaker 5: now we're down.
Speaker 6: Oh too?
Speaker 3: Oh two?
Speaker 6: And wait what the next game?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 3: What the next game at in Dallas? Next to in Dallas? Oh?
Speaker 6: Hell no?
Speaker 3: And oh Joe.
Speaker 2: That concern me most is that those two guards where man,
Speaker 2: I said, bro, ain't nobody stopping Luca.
Speaker 3: Luca led the league in scoring. You don't, You're not
Speaker 3: just hope Luca missed.
Speaker 2: He gonna get whatever shot he wants, whenever he wants,
Speaker 2: unless you take the ball out of his hands. If
Speaker 2: you trap him, you'll give it up. You'll make the
Speaker 2: right play. But if you let him play one on one.
Speaker 2: He gonna cook your ass. Kyrie is another one. You
Speaker 2: let Kyrie play one on one. Okay, he too good,
Speaker 2: He too good. That gods are too good. And now
Speaker 2: you see Gaffred flying unbelievable. Derrick Lively the second, flying unbelievable.
Speaker 2: PJ is knocking down timely threes. Broy I watching Dallas.
Speaker 2: The best move with Niko Harris when he traded for
Speaker 2: Daniel Gaffert, when he got PJ.
Speaker 3: Washington.
Speaker 2: Now that made him a big, formable team. They can
Speaker 2: play defense. They'll challenge you at the rim. Look, Luca
Speaker 2: and Kyrie are not really known as defenders, but they're
Speaker 2: trying their asses off now. And you can tell it's
Speaker 2: close to the NBA Finals and they can taste it.
Speaker 2: We're two games away. Those guys are digging in now,
Speaker 2: they're digging it.
Speaker 3: Ain't no you know.
Speaker 2: Luca normally, if you get ahead of him, Luca just
Speaker 2: let you go ahead. Lucasa Area. Yeah, he's never gonna
Speaker 2: be no great on ball defender, right his his his
Speaker 2: defense is busting your ass on the other end on
Speaker 2: the offensive meeting, that's his defense. He tie you out
Speaker 2: so you won't be able to do anything against him.
Speaker 2: When his turn to guard you. But Minnesota got that
Speaker 2: work cut out for because, unlike a Denver that relied
Speaker 2: so much on Jokic when Murray struggled, they still got
Speaker 2: Kyrie right. And Kyrie, if any point in time, can
Speaker 2: go nuclear. He can go get your twenty points in
Speaker 2: a quarter, he can go get your forty.
Speaker 6: And he pick and choose when he wanted to turn
Speaker 6: it on. That's the crazy thing about it.
Speaker 2: Him and Luca took the game over in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: They took it over. They're more than cable of doing that.
Speaker 2: They got two outstanding ball handlers. Yeah on the court. Uh,
Speaker 2: if one of them goes out book, so either guy
Speaker 2: can handle the ball. Kyrie has been amazing. Luca Lucas Luca.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you say? He's Luca. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: been in the league six years. He's the first Team.
Speaker 2: He's a five time All NBA selection, So I don't
Speaker 2: really know what else to say about it. He's gotten
Speaker 2: five All Star Game, five First Team All the NBA selections,
Speaker 2: So I don't really know what else you can you
Speaker 2: want me to say about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody knows what he is.
Speaker 6: That's crazy, and he a.
Speaker 3: He said I might have something to say about that
Speaker 3: face of the NBA. Let me get this title.
Speaker 6: I don't know about that. He don't have that personality.
Speaker 6: You don't have that personality or that charisma that or
Speaker 6: a man got it.
Speaker 5: That's why you know what. Matter of fact, I'm doubling
Speaker 5: it down. Man, Wool's coming back. Wool's coming back.
Speaker 3: We're gonna win.
Speaker 5: We're gonna win. We're gonna win two in Dallas. Then
Speaker 5: we're coming back home and we're gonna we're gonna steal.
Speaker 5: We're gonna steal the show. Okay, we're gonna steal a show.
Speaker 6: And I know you're gonna see this. I know you're
Speaker 6: gonna see this. Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 3: All right, Uh, Boston's up three to oh, Dallas up two? Oh,
Speaker 3: going home. We'll see tomorrow. Can they make it three? Oh?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, It's time for our first segment of the night.
Speaker 2: It's called a news cap, news.
Speaker 1: Cap Ooh hey, hey, hey, Draymond Green, thanks the NBA
Speaker 1: fine system keeps Flayers from being wealthy after their careers.
Speaker 2: Draymond on Jameson Green on The Shack Podcast, The Big Podcast,
Speaker 2: The Fines to Me, don't make sense when you talk
Speaker 2: about hard, how hard as we work to accumulate wealth
Speaker 2: coming from situations most people never make it out of
Speaker 2: and then you get fined the way we get fined,
Speaker 2: it's actually not set up for us to be wealthy
Speaker 2: after we're done playing. If if I do something wrong,
Speaker 2: I lose one hundred thousand man and it takes my
Speaker 2: mom four years what I was growing up to make
Speaker 2: for one hundred thousand. And if I lose that in
Speaker 2: the night because of what Roughree got mad at me
Speaker 2: or he didn't like what I said. So if I
Speaker 2: lose so I lose five thousand. Like that on a
Speaker 2: tech Draymond's text and fives have run around nine hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Suspension have cost them three million dollars, and
Speaker 2: Draymond has made one hundred and fifty three million in
Speaker 2: his career, so that's around four percent of his career
Speaker 2: post tax earnings that have gone to the league.
Speaker 5: I like what he's talking about. I like what you
Speaker 5: talking about. I like the message is just the wrong messager. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I love the message and just the wrong message. And
Speaker 5: the fact and the fact of the matter is the
Speaker 5: fine system and the structure that they have with the fines.
Speaker 6: That's not what make it go broke.
Speaker 5: It's the lifestyle that the athletes are living outside of
Speaker 5: the game of basketball. Yeah, the multiple cars, the multiple houses,
Speaker 5: the jewelry, the clothes obviously, now you know everybody's is
Speaker 5: a is our fashion e stuff. Yeah, we're not gonna
Speaker 5: talk about it, and we going talk about the multiple women.
Speaker 5: You know, and y'all don't deal with just anybody. Y'all
Speaker 5: deal with the cream of the crop, the cream of
Speaker 5: the crop. That they're only dealing with you because you
Speaker 5: got money anyway, and you got to understand that you
Speaker 5: sit in them twenty thirty thousand, You buy them houses,
Speaker 5: you buy them cars.
Speaker 3: Yeah huh.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, you get the nails done, you
Speaker 2: get the hair, you got no tail, the nose, the
Speaker 2: big nails in the hair, you get that done.
Speaker 3: You were straight not but listen, not not what the.
Speaker 6: Basketball players black.
Speaker 5: But they are dealing with the finest of the finest,
Speaker 5: and they they deal with multiple of them at once.
Speaker 5: And that in this set, that in itself is an
Speaker 5: excessive bill to deal with your finess. That there are
Speaker 5: you already notice you ever scroll through Instagram and see
Speaker 5: all these fine.
Speaker 6: Women always drape, always dressed and dressed.
Speaker 3: To they got working bags, they got dag wagon and
Speaker 3: it ain't.
Speaker 6: It ain't a dude in sight? Do you think do
Speaker 6: you think supplying don't get.
Speaker 3: Me started a business the street?
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's only a certain there's only a select fuel
Speaker 6: on this planet.
Speaker 5: That can maintain that, which one of the reasons why
Speaker 5: ninety as well when they're done playing, go broke as well. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And I said with Drake Monne, you're gonna say now
Speaker 5: what NBA players need to do? You want to learn
Speaker 5: how to say your money? You want to set yourself up?
Speaker 5: List is the NBA. They don't need to setting thate
Speaker 5: up you guys. So you're wealthy after them playing, come
Speaker 5: on and.
Speaker 6: Let your boy. I got I gotta.
Speaker 5: I got a five year plan that will gets you right.
Speaker 5: I got a ten year plan that gets you right.
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what to do with your money
Speaker 5: after football. How about this here, I mean basketball basketball?
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, how about this here?
Speaker 2: How about start stop kicking people in the private how
Speaker 2: about start to stop choking people? How about how about
Speaker 2: how about how about stop punching your teammates?
Speaker 6: What about about d o forget about that.
Speaker 3: I thought that's what we were talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was talking about the fine stuff and and
Speaker 5: them not the NBA not having stuff set up for
Speaker 5: the players to have money at the end. Well, listen,
Speaker 5: getting fine is one thing that is I've said it
Speaker 5: all the time. NFL has fines, the NBA has fines.
Speaker 5: To me, finding you, finding you is the whip you get.
Speaker 5: You get what I'm going with this, Yes, Okay, how
Speaker 5: do we keep these motherfuckers in line? You take their money,
Speaker 5: because how you keep them aligned? You take what they
Speaker 5: think they value most. Well, you got if you know,
Speaker 5: if you don't value the money you play for the
Speaker 5: love of the game, you're gonna continue to do what
Speaker 5: you always do.
Speaker 3: And you think.
Speaker 5: I think Drakemond is one of those individuals. He's gonna
Speaker 5: always stay true to himself. And I think if you
Speaker 5: take away that edge that he has, that dinn't that
Speaker 5: Dennis Rodman like type. Not for Sanni, He's not that,
Speaker 5: he's not that extreme with it. But if you take
Speaker 5: away that edge that he has, I think it changes
Speaker 5: him as a player.
Speaker 6: Does that make sense? You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you got to have rules and regulations.
Speaker 3: There's a reason why we have speed limits.
Speaker 2: My grandfast always say, boy, giving a choice to do
Speaker 2: right or wrong, and there's no one there to hold
Speaker 2: you accountable for the wrong. More time than not people
Speaker 2: would do wrong. And I'm not just talking about the
Speaker 2: malicious and the Mallard things. So if there were no
Speaker 2: rules in the NBA, how hard would you think somebody
Speaker 2: would file? What do you think people would do?
Speaker 3: You've got to have rules.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like the NFL. If the NFL didn't
Speaker 2: have a dress code. I guarantee you y'all come out
Speaker 2: there with your shirt cut off.
Speaker 3: Pretty soon. Guy will be calling door dashing, ordering food
Speaker 3: on the sideline.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 5: I know that.
Speaker 2: That's how we are. And you're gonna come out there
Speaker 2: like an all tournament team. One guy have on you
Speaker 2: have on the home jersey. The other he was gonna
Speaker 2: come out there with the business jersey.
Speaker 3: We've got to have rules, right right? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So what we're gonna do about Dmon? Draymond going upside
Speaker 2: Nurkice's head? So what we're gonna do about that? So
Speaker 2: so Adam spilt Silba was supposed to say, you know what,
Speaker 2: back in the eighties, they played like that. It's not
Speaker 2: the eighties, right, I understand. We saw all the big hits.
Speaker 2: I played in the era where the big hit was applauded.
Speaker 2: They had they put out at the end of the year,
Speaker 2: they put out. They used to have what was called
Speaker 2: VA Chances, and then they had DVD's and which you
Speaker 2: could buy big hits.
Speaker 3: Jack up. You can't play like that anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, You're right. So if you don't want
Speaker 2: all I had to do, if I didn't want them
Speaker 2: to take my five thousand dollars, all I had to
Speaker 2: do was chuck my jersey in. All I had to
Speaker 2: do was pull my socks up. You're right, I can't
Speaker 2: get mad because I'm and I get it.
Speaker 3: It's it. I'm I've said the same thing. What does
Speaker 3: my socks have to do with anything?
Speaker 2: Comission nothing, I said one of my jersey, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm playing the game, so you won't me.
Speaker 3: I get tackled.
Speaker 2: So instead of me focused on the game, all right,
Speaker 2: I gotta make the next play what it was gonna
Speaker 2: call you.
Speaker 3: Won't be reached down, pulled my socks up, took my
Speaker 3: jersey back.
Speaker 5: Come home, And now you see why ain't following them
Speaker 5: damn rules. Now you see why sometime you know what
Speaker 5: I was about fashion. I'm not about fashion in the street,
Speaker 5: but when it came to the football togue, I'm trying
Speaker 5: to look good. Why do you think I had an
Speaker 5: orange chin strap? Why I think sometimes I had a
Speaker 5: black chin strap. All I'm gonna take that fine every time.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take it every time. And I kept doing
Speaker 5: it to let them know. Listen, I play this game
Speaker 5: like a little kid because I love it. When I
Speaker 5: played it in high school, when I played in the
Speaker 5: Little League, I wasn't making no money. The fact that
Speaker 5: you're paying the means of dollars to play a child's
Speaker 5: game doesn't mean I'm going to change because you have
Speaker 5: rules set in place that make no sense when I'm
Speaker 5: hurting nobody and there's no malice in tent behind it
Speaker 5: outside of a fashion statement, right celebrating I saw vision.
Speaker 5: I saw the vision years ago. I understood the entertainment
Speaker 5: value of it. I was the villain all the celebrating
Speaker 5: that you were finding me for now It's okay, Now,
Speaker 5: it's welcome.
Speaker 6: Now somebody all of a sudden, oh, now they're in
Speaker 6: the NFL. League office. Now they get it.
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I need to file agreements for all
Speaker 5: my damn fine money back every section that I had.
Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what, you let me know if
Speaker 2: you get it back, because I damn you're gonna be
Speaker 2: right behind you the fire face work and get all
Speaker 2: my for my head socks and my jersey being out.
Speaker 2: But I just say this thing on choses like, look,
Speaker 2: we know this. If you do not set rules and regulations,
Speaker 2: it's just like just like work. If you don't have
Speaker 2: a dress code at work, mad Joe come up there
Speaker 2: with short, short song. Somebody gonna come up there with
Speaker 2: some teams and the working. That's why, Hey, what's the
Speaker 2: dress code. We'll establish the dress code and then we
Speaker 2: work it a quarteringly because if you don't look, I
Speaker 2: remember now look at the way they go to church.
Speaker 2: Now you know that that God said anyway, man, come
Speaker 2: on now depend on what church you go to. But
Speaker 2: it's the fashion show. Bron Man coming up there with
Speaker 2: leg is a cup on now because there God they't
Speaker 2: trying to see that.
Speaker 6: But I am.
Speaker 2: Come on, wait, come on, come on, But I but
Speaker 2: I get it. But Draymond, look I understand, Draymond. I
Speaker 2: mean some sometimes I think Draymond thinks they're picking on him.
Speaker 2: But Draymon Hunt, look at what you're doing, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 2: look at what you're doing. You can't keep kicking people,
Speaker 2: hitting people, and then when they find you're talking about well,
Speaker 2: they're not setting me up. No, you're not setting in
Speaker 2: yourself up because if you didn't do it, if you
Speaker 2: didn't do those things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Draymond is then forcer man like that, like on
Speaker 6: the hockey team. Yeah, Raymond nforcer.
Speaker 2: But but here's the thing though, the NBA don't need
Speaker 2: to enforce it right now because if you're enforce it,
Speaker 2: they gonna take three million dollars. The suspensions of costing
Speaker 2: three million dollars.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you're gonna make it back up, So
Speaker 6: I get it.
Speaker 2: I'll get it. It's frustrated, brother. You know made one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty three million. Say guess what, you know what,
Speaker 2: I ain't finna get the NBA no more of my money.
Speaker 2: Mm hm, Hey ride it out. You got probably five
Speaker 2: another five years, make you another one hundred plus million dollars.
Speaker 2: Get get get as close as you can to three
Speaker 2: hundred million. Sell off in the sunset. Go sit at
Speaker 2: the desk at well, I don't know. I think NBC
Speaker 2: has it now if Charles gonna keep uh the TNT together,
Speaker 2: if you go keep that together. But y'all you work
Speaker 2: great there. I mean, you're unbelievable. I mean he's great
Speaker 2: at it job. I mean he's great at it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: but you can't. You can't have that kind of behavior.
Speaker 2: And then when you get fired till about well, they
Speaker 2: trying to not they don't. They try to let me
Speaker 2: be wealthy after I'm done. No, after you've done is
Speaker 2: why you're playing. Yeah, that's why you play it. That's
Speaker 2: how you set yourself up for while you're done.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 2: So I got I understand, But I, like you said,
Speaker 2: Dreymond might be the wrong message to deliver this message.
Speaker 2: Rich Faull says the focus should be on a d
Speaker 2: not Lebron at this point, and a Friday interview with
Speaker 2: Chris Haynes, rich said Lebron has not involved himself in
Speaker 2: the team's ongoing search for a new head coach. He added,
Speaker 2: in his opinion, the lakership folk should probably most for
Speaker 2: excuse me, probably more focused on Anthony Davis than Lebron
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 3: Do you agree.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, most, definitely most.
Speaker 5: David Lebron said it last year before the season started
Speaker 5: out of his own mouth, this is eighties team. Lebron
Speaker 5: is older now, even though he's still a fish and
Speaker 5: all that he does offensively and defensively for the Lakers,
Speaker 5: But it's eighty team. So from this point on, Lakers
Speaker 5: front office GM, mister Buss, mister Plinka should focus on
Speaker 5: eighty being the focal point. Right.
Speaker 6: That's that's That's pretty much it.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I'm not sure if Lebron is
Speaker 5: going to be there, obviously he ain't going nowhere, you
Speaker 5: don't think so? Hell no, who built one hundred million
Speaker 5: dollar house? And then lead if you build a twenty
Speaker 5: million dollar in Miami, where you moving to Oojoe? He
Speaker 5: building one hundred million dollar house?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: I have a question, Sure, I have a question. He's
Speaker 5: building a one hundred million dollar house right in La Yeah.
Speaker 5: But when it comes to someone like that with that
Speaker 5: kind of money, that don't really mean nothing. Honestly, I'm
Speaker 5: just saying. I mean, we talk we talk about Lebron,
Speaker 5: We talked about Lebron James. Now if my cheap ass
Speaker 5: is building one hundred million dollars anything. I'm for the uproot,
Speaker 5: not chance star. That's exactly where I'm going.
Speaker 2: A hundred million nothing. Me and you together can't build
Speaker 2: a hundred million dollar nothing.
Speaker 6: Hey, well you're right by that. But I'm just hypothetically
Speaker 6: speaking as if we had that, if we had that
Speaker 6: kind of money.
Speaker 3: We do ten percent. We could do ten percent of
Speaker 3: that on Joe. But we can't do the whole thing.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, we can't do the whole thing. Listen
Speaker 6: show show came.
Speaker 3: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: For me now, I probably like if I had like
Speaker 2: good money, I probably spen. I've probably been fifteen twenty
Speaker 2: if I had a couple of hundred million dollars, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: If I got a couple of.
Speaker 2: Hundred million dollars, three four hundred million dollars, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll bout twenty million dollar house.
Speaker 3: But I mean about one hundred million dollar house. You
Speaker 3: gotta have a billion a billion or something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to be making then.
Speaker 3: You gotta know you got twenty thirty million coming in
Speaker 3: every year. Yeah, just definitely.
Speaker 5: And that's what I tell people what the upkeep and
Speaker 5: the taxes is on something like that. It's hold on
Speaker 5: especially in La of all places.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you notice a lot of people, a lot
Speaker 2: of people that have a lot of money, yea, they
Speaker 2: live in Florida, they have Vegas, they have they have
Speaker 2: they have places that have no or low state tax
Speaker 2: They spend half of the time where there's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of taxes because you figure you're making you know,
Speaker 2: you make that kind of money. Because I saw somebody
Speaker 2: they put up with a Jalen Bronson makes and what
Speaker 2: and what by the time you pay you know, federal
Speaker 2: and state and bika and muta all the taxes. Man,
Speaker 2: they take over half, they take fourteen million, it's twenty
Speaker 2: six God damn, that's what I said. I don't mind
Speaker 2: paying my fair share, but damn I'm paying somebody else
Speaker 2: fair share.
Speaker 3: That's what I be thinking. I'd be like, oh way, whoa.
Speaker 5: Hey, fourteen fourteen fourteen of the time. Well listen, And
Speaker 5: that's that's another thing. I don't mean to jump the
Speaker 5: piggyback back back on what what Dreymal was talking about.
Speaker 5: But you know the numbers that go across that ticke
Speaker 5: at the bottom. Boy, it's different now that shit go fast.
Speaker 2: Now, well, you automatically whatever you see take fifty percent
Speaker 2: off that, yeah, right away, Okay, fifty percent off that. Okay,
Speaker 2: your agency that's another that's another five percent, three three
Speaker 2: orty five. Now if you're in Hollywood, they take ten
Speaker 2: to twenty percent. So now a twenty million dollars is
Speaker 2: down to ten. They used to get that cut that's
Speaker 2: probably one to two. So now you're down to eight eight. Well,
Speaker 2: if you if youre in Hollywood, you live in a
Speaker 2: sta you live in a life. Now you ain't living
Speaker 2: in no one bedroom.
Speaker 3: You know, you want to go.
Speaker 2: Three thousands of money anyway, anything that forty five ten
Speaker 2: thousan fifteen twenty thousand dollars a month, you probably spentded.
Speaker 3: Some good money. You don't take money long to go. No,
Speaker 3: it goes don't take money long to go.
Speaker 6: It cay go, it goes fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And I'm just to the point now,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, I said, you know what, And I was
Speaker 2: just I just had a meeting with my financial guy.
Speaker 2: He's like channing you at the point. Now you probably
Speaker 2: should enjoy yourself a little more. It's like if you
Speaker 2: see something, you're like get it. Yeah, he said, you know,
Speaker 2: I'll you know, keep like I don't think that's a
Speaker 2: good purchase. But at what point in time do you
Speaker 2: stop doing for everybody else and do one thing for yourself?
Speaker 2: Come on, non, My thing is I love like being
Speaker 2: able to do things for my brother, for my sister,
Speaker 2: to go get them a car, or to have my
Speaker 2: sister like, okay, you take care of I just what
Speaker 2: I need you to do. You're gonna make this amount? Hey,
Speaker 2: I got to go out of town. I need you
Speaker 2: to come wash the dog for two weeks. My kids
Speaker 2: to be able to help, to be able to help them,
Speaker 2: but they do a great job. I can honestly say
Speaker 2: my kids, they don't really bother me about money because
Speaker 2: they already know. Oh yoke, I told them I'm last option,
Speaker 2: I'm not first choice. They've done a great job.
Speaker 3: So I know when they call, Oh it's serious, but
Speaker 3: I already know. I know how the conversation go. Hey Dad,
Speaker 3: what's up. Yeah, I'm good. What's going on? No, I
Speaker 3: just called to see how you was doing. I'm good.
Speaker 3: And normally when they really want to do something, they FaceTime.
Speaker 2: They always did. Normally my kids don't FaceTime. My daughter
Speaker 2: she's always facetiming. But the other two if they need something.
Speaker 2: Hey dad, how you do it? I'm good man good. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I watched I watched the pod that was that was
Speaker 2: a good one that I like that. Okay, bro, stop
Speaker 2: shorting talking to me. Man, what you need? How much
Speaker 2: you need? I know it's something you need something I
Speaker 2: go to the same way. So I already know, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: But but that's my thing. I love working and helping
Speaker 2: other people because even that helped me. You know, my
Speaker 2: mom take care of my mom. I'm able to take
Speaker 2: care of my mom. My brother and sister, like I said,
Speaker 2: they kind of like raised me because you know, my
Speaker 2: grandfather and my grandfather. My grandfather was like had gotten
Speaker 2: up and he wasn't really old but had had a
Speaker 2: heart attack. It had a stroke, so he wasn't the same.
Speaker 2: And then once my grandfather died, you know, so my
Speaker 2: brother and sister kind of raised me. Yeah, and so me,
Speaker 2: that's that's my thing. And I look at what how
Speaker 2: God has blessed me.
Speaker 3: So I'm just like man. But but I don't really
Speaker 3: want anything, Oh Joe, I don't well, you know you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I think about my situation. I like, obviously I like working,
Speaker 5: but I don't even call it work.
Speaker 6: But the thing I got.
Speaker 5: Listen, I got thirty eight jobs, well, thirty nine and
Speaker 5: I got thirty nine and none of it feels like
Speaker 5: work because it's all things that I enjoy doing. It's
Speaker 5: all things that I enjoy doing. And again, I never
Speaker 5: buy nothing for myself either. I'm always about blessed, going
Speaker 5: to restaurants, tipping, making sure rail is good, making sure
Speaker 5: my kids are good those I have kids from, making
Speaker 5: sure they're good.
Speaker 6: That's it. My mama and my girma gone. Huh. I
Speaker 6: have I have, No, That's all I have.
Speaker 5: I have nothing else to live for outside of obviously
Speaker 5: my kids, the missus, and making sure those I have
Speaker 5: kids from a good as well.
Speaker 6: Outside of that, what am I doing? What am I? What?
Speaker 6: Am What? Am I going? Buying high end ship for?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 6: Am I driving a guy damn ferrari me for what?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm done with.
Speaker 5: I'm on cruise control. I want Yeah, Oh I'm I'm
Speaker 5: on cruise control right now.
Speaker 3: So I'm dude.
Speaker 6: I just I just I just want to keep I
Speaker 6: just want to keep having fun. I'm going to keep
Speaker 6: working doing stuff here and there that I enjoy doing.
Speaker 2: Well, I can. I can't sleep because somebody be calling
Speaker 2: me cool. You're laughing in the background. Ash, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I have an idea. We were uh and she like,
Speaker 2: you know what?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: I say, No, I don't want to know because you
Speaker 3: got another idea. You got another idea? Yeah. Uh, but
Speaker 3: that's that's me, Oh Joe, I do. I mean. I
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 2: I love being able to tell my brother and he's like, man, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: you've been so good to me. I'm good, Bro. No,
Speaker 2: you're gonna go get this. I've already told her. I've
Speaker 2: already called the people. Shell is already taken care of it.
Speaker 2: Go there, drop your truck off, get whatever you want
Speaker 2: on the lot, and drive it home.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Get whatever you want.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying this like and my sister,
Speaker 2: My sister is nothing, you know, because I've always like
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, my brother doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 2: So I took over all the responsibility. I say, whatever
Speaker 2: Bill that comes to that house, don't call him and
Speaker 2: bother him. He got other stuff to worry about. And
Speaker 2: so same thing with my sister. My mom a whatever
Speaker 2: she needs, don't she my mom everybody. They don't really call. Well,
Speaker 2: my brother called me if he needs something, but most
Speaker 2: of the time they go through the kids normally called
Speaker 2: Shelley first. But I soa, I know if they call me,
Speaker 2: I know they kind of like really need it, because
Speaker 2: they gonna call her for you know, little stuff twenty
Speaker 2: five hundred five thousand, they'll call her for that. If
Speaker 2: they call me, I already know it's gonna hurt. I
Speaker 2: already know it's gonna hurt. Yeah, it's gonna be like
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, whoa what we need that?
Speaker 3: Fum?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, whoa, damn, y'all might need to stuf
Speaker 2: come start working with me till about Daddy hired us.
Speaker 3: Oh hell now, y'all ain't been to work for me.
Speaker 6: Listen, I ain't. I ain't listen. You know, I got
Speaker 6: I got, I got a I got a camp for
Speaker 6: of them. I ain't named for that. That ain't no
Speaker 6: serve twenty five five thousand whole American dollars.
Speaker 1: Y'ah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, already, like I said, already know when they when
Speaker 2: they really when they call me, yeah, I already know
Speaker 2: it's gonna hurt a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So but that at this point in time on Joy.
Speaker 2: It used to be like at this like like what,
Speaker 2: I don't really buy anything, And so I said, let
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm saving all this money, and I
Speaker 2: do save. I save a lot of my money. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna go to them anyway, and they not gonna
Speaker 2: be They're probably not gonna be as meticulous as I am.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to set up about three generations. I tell
Speaker 2: them I got three generations. I got, y'all, I got
Speaker 2: the grandkids. If I'm fortunate enough to be around my
Speaker 2: grandson kid. Yeah, after that, y'all got it. Now, y'all
Speaker 2: go blord if you want to and go back to
Speaker 2: where you were. But yeah, that's on y'all, because you know,
Speaker 2: tough times make tough men. Tough men create easy times.
Speaker 2: Easy time create weak people. Yeah, yeah, my kids.
Speaker 3: Won't be what I was because the times were was
Speaker 3: complete different.
Speaker 2: Completely, So private school and indoor plumbing and and everything
Speaker 2: taking care of.
Speaker 3: You know, you have people coming in and cooking for you.
Speaker 2: You go into the best restaurants, you know, you ordered
Speaker 2: you know, thirty and forty dollars stakes and you're ten
Speaker 2: eleven years old. It's different than when I came up,
Speaker 2: so I viewed things through a different prism than what
Speaker 2: they do. But I just hope they appreciate it once
Speaker 2: I'm gone. I mean, it's hard to appreciate something like
Speaker 2: when it's here, But I just hope when I'm gone,
Speaker 2: they appreciate what was what I did and how I
Speaker 2: tried to set them up so they can pass it
Speaker 2: on down the line, because I don't want I don't
Speaker 2: ever want my family that sharp name to ever be
Speaker 2: what it was was. That's my whole goal is that
Speaker 2: like set them up, and hopefully they appreciate that, and
Speaker 2: they set their kids up and the other kids and
Speaker 2: so forth and so on.
Speaker 3: So that's my goal. I like it.
Speaker 2: During last night's multicast, he mistakes who said Rich Fauls said,
Speaker 2: Lebron James with the declinest player option and become a
Speaker 2: free agent, which is no surprise.
Speaker 3: Because he wants to keep the pressure on him.
Speaker 2: He wants them to know, uh, he wants them to
Speaker 2: know that, hey, I got options, so don't don't get
Speaker 2: don't get carried away. That's why he normally signs two
Speaker 2: years plus an option because he's always gonna give himself
Speaker 2: an out. He always wants to keep the organization feet
Speaker 2: to the fire as far as are you doing everything
Speaker 2: you possibly can in the win a championship, because you know,
Speaker 2: if you're not, I'm gonna go somewhere where they are.
Speaker 6: Oh that's a good one. That's tough. Listen.
Speaker 5: Every everything Lebron and his team have done has always
Speaker 5: been strategic. There was always a method behind their madness,
Speaker 5: which which is why they're so successful, not only on
Speaker 5: the court but off the court.
Speaker 6: So exactly what they're doing, I have no idea.
Speaker 5: You know, you know they I'm not sure who with
Speaker 5: the brains behind Well, who's the massive mind behind everything
Speaker 5: that they've done to this point.
Speaker 2: I'm the lakers of Lebron, the Lebron Oh well you know,
Speaker 2: well Maverick Maverick have those TV and the movie aspect
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: Randy is the chief of staff.
Speaker 2: Anything that moves, yeah, cars, flights, going, hotels, he handles
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then Rich is the the the on field, the
Speaker 2: on court. So he's out here Lebron is surrounded by
Speaker 2: a great team. Maverick does what he does, Randy does
Speaker 2: what he does, Rich does what he does. Savannah does
Speaker 2: what he does, which allows him to mind his mind,
Speaker 2: to stay free and just play basketball.
Speaker 6: Damn.
Speaker 5: And it's like nobody really knows what's gonna happen because
Speaker 5: unless Lebron says it, Risk can come out and talk.
Speaker 6: Rich can come out and say things.
Speaker 5: He can He can say certain things to put pressure
Speaker 5: on the Lakers to make them think he's going to
Speaker 5: leave or make them think he's want to do something.
Speaker 5: Obviously this tactic to put pressure on him and bringing
Speaker 5: another piece in which is with that, which is what
Speaker 5: I think they would need.
Speaker 3: But yeah, uh right, Uh Man, I was on the plane.
Speaker 3: I was just on the plane.
Speaker 2: Uh Friday, Rich Paul their joking comfort plus man about
Speaker 2: man Ay, I wear one hundred.
Speaker 3: And forty five pounds. I don't need big old comfort seat. Say, man,
Speaker 3: you'll get.
Speaker 2: Your ass out of that little land seat anybody window,
Speaker 2: I said, Rich, you could need to stop being cheap.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: Donald, I like, I don't like why I need to out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you want to sleep your head against the window,
Speaker 2: that layer your head on somebody's shoulder.
Speaker 3: You'll get your damn head off each sleep it.
Speaker 2: See, that's what happened when you find that somebody probably
Speaker 2: be sitting sleeping with their head on your shoulder.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, no mind fall over.
Speaker 6: No, I told you I always get the same seat
Speaker 6: every time. I never have any issues.
Speaker 3: Is their feet next to you? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, but the person next to me doesn't bother me. Yes, no,
Speaker 5: they don't sleep on my shoulder. Because if people that
Speaker 5: fly with me when I do fly spirit I see,
Speaker 5: I'm always in the same seat. See thirteen A or
Speaker 5: thirteen E. I talked the whole flight, so I've tweeted
Speaker 5: multiple times. I get upset when people get in the
Speaker 5: flight with me and put their fucking headphones on. If
Speaker 5: you do get on a flight next to me and
Speaker 5: you sit next to me, do not put your headphones
Speaker 5: on and be rude. I like to talk, so the
Speaker 5: flights that I do take, I paid the back and
Speaker 5: relax and be comfortable. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: that's not happening.
Speaker 6: If I have sat next to you on a flight,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna talk your head off though.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, you ain't gonna talk to me.
Speaker 6: Hey, when we go to the South of France, I'm
Speaker 6: flaying with you. You're gonna talk. We're gonna talk the
Speaker 6: whole six seven hours.
Speaker 3: It's longer than six or seven hours. But you ain't
Speaker 3: gonna be sitting next to me.
Speaker 6: Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to the whole You got real, talk to real.
Speaker 3: Don't your real love be talking?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no, because I'm gonna be s
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta deal her every day in this house.
Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta busy schedule, so I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: my sleep on the way over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, we're gonna talk. We're gonna converse about you about
Speaker 5: what the schedule. We're gonna talk about nightcap. We're gonna
Speaker 5: we're gonna be gon on what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 3: I'll make sure Ash have you on a tender skipping
Speaker 3: the doug. You'll can go, you go.
Speaker 5: I know I want no, I want to engage. I
Speaker 5: want I want authentic. I wan't want you to run
Speaker 5: down the.
Speaker 3: Unfortunate able to do that. Okay, thank you. I'm glad
Speaker 3: you understand the volume.
Speaker 2: Mhm