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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December fourteenth, two thou twenty, season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number seventy nine. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break, presented by Geico. I'm lying from the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage studios. At the start, got Nick in here with me.

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Speaker 1: We got Dave and Amber on from their remote remote locations.

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Speaker 1: And before we get too far into the show, we

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Speaker 1: gotta start for by telling my dude, Dave, Happy birthday, man,

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Speaker 1: Thanks buddy. Yeah, I appreciate how many years is this is?

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Speaker 1: I'm being I am thirty two. Is not that depressing,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, until I think about the fact that I

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Speaker 1: was twenty four when y'all hired me. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where that time went, but here we are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny that that at some point, Nick, we probably

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Speaker 1: should tell the story of how we hired Dave and

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Speaker 1: like that interview we had with him and how that

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Speaker 1: all went down. That could that could be kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's an offseason kind of story. We didn't even

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Speaker 1: recalling that. You don't remember that? Mean you were sitting

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Speaker 1: interviewing Dave? So I don't know. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 1: at this point. Just go ahead and say it. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember it. What was on the phone? We didn't

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Speaker 1: We didn't even meet him in person. I think you're

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Speaker 1: mixing your guys. I thought the Rowan was the one

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Speaker 1: the reason why we were doing about phone. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that birthday. Happy birthday, Dave Man, thirty

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Speaker 1: two years old. You were twenty four if you were

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Speaker 1: a baby. Now you're a grown man with a dog baby.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's awesome. All right, let's jump in. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this. Cowboys win. Cowboys get

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Speaker 1: a big win yesterday, thirty to seven, if you can

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Speaker 1: get big wins at this point in the season. But Nick,

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Speaker 1: it really needed the win. You saw when it happened,

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Speaker 1: when they got a win a few weeks ago, how

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Speaker 1: much it helped this team. They really needed a win.

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Speaker 1: What was it like yesterday with the team after they

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Speaker 1: one of those things. It's like and they've been getting

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Speaker 1: beat up for a while. You know, you've been getting

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Speaker 1: just grabbed the bat, you know, and you did a

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Speaker 1: little hitting of your own. I mean, that's it. Just

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Speaker 1: but that's what you do the teams that are bad.

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Speaker 1: You kind of put them down and keep them down.

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Speaker 1: And that's what they did. And you know, they were

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Speaker 1: the team. But you wouldn't have guessed that yesterday standing

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Speaker 1: yesterday's game. And but let's start with you. I was

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I'm in a

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Speaker 1: I mean, had the Cowboys scored a defensive touchdown all season? Not?

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Speaker 1: right against the feel bad season. Don't feel bad because

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Speaker 1: Tank said, I don't think we've scored a defensive touchdown

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Speaker 1: forget it. I've been a long October. October eleventh feels

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Speaker 1: be in a game situation like this, But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you get the ball at the thirty two yard line,

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Speaker 1: I expect a little bit better than seven plays for

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Speaker 1: sixteen yards in a field goal. It does seem like

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Speaker 1: this team gets bogged down. It's funny now because it

431
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Speaker 1: was a blowout, but you know it, you would prefer

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Speaker 1: to see Andy find Amari Cooper wide freaking open on

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Speaker 1: that slugo in the fourth quarter. You know it's a

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Speaker 1: sixty yard touchdown if he just looks to his left.

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Speaker 1: And it's just stuff like at where you're like, Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton played well and the offense was fine, and they

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Speaker 1: won by twenty three points. But this certainly hasn't been

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Speaker 1: an explosive offense since Dak Prescott went out. And again,

439
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Speaker 1: I know that the offensive line is compromised, so it

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Speaker 1: is hard to judge the whole thing. But I mean

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Speaker 1: they look they look like an offense that's being run

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Speaker 1: by a backup quarterback. And that's not a bad thing

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Speaker 1: because that's what they went and got Andy Dalton to do.

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Speaker 1: But you know, there there are some plays that they

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Speaker 1: have left out there on a consistent basis in the

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Speaker 1: time that Dak has has been out of you know,

447
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Speaker 1: out for the season. I want to go back, but

448
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: I do think he played. But but Andy's not any

449
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I mean, he's a guy who's been a starter,

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Speaker 1: so it's not just your typical backup guy. I mean,

451
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Speaker 1: this is at a point that you you I get

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Speaker 1: it completely different offense with Dak Prescott in and with

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Speaker 1: the offensive line healthy. But at the same time, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a game where you you expect this team

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Speaker 1: to be absolutely competitive with a guy like Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. I would argue that they mostly have been

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Speaker 1: other than I mean, and I no, I agree, but

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Speaker 1: I said, I just made that comment in response to

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Speaker 1: what you said that this looks like a team that

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Speaker 1: is playing with a backup quarterback. Well, okay, let me

461
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Speaker 1: let me a very good backup quarterback. I mean in

462
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Speaker 1: May when Andy sign we were like, well, you know,

463
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys probably maybe have the best backup quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the league, Like they should still be able to effectively

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Speaker 1: run their offense with Andy Dalton. And other than the

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Speaker 1: Washington game when he got concussed, and really that was

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Speaker 1: probably the low point for the offensive line on the

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Speaker 1: entire year. In all of the other games, they've looked

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Speaker 1: like they could win games with him in at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't get trounced by Baltimore because of

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Speaker 1: what the offense was doing that I mean that those

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Speaker 1: are defensive lapses. So yeah, for the most part, I

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Speaker 1: feel like they've gotten pretty good return on investment. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't know if like

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Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to say. As I think

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's window as a you know, big time starting

477
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Speaker 1: quarterback who can win you a championship, I lean toward

478
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: thinking those days were probably over. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: he can't be a very serviceable quarterback in this league.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they ever were here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's an interesting gay go ahead, and I just don't

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Speaker 1: think it's that. I don't think this is really that

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Speaker 1: hard to figure out. I mean, this offensive line is

484
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Speaker 1: not going to win any weightlifting contests. I mean they're agile,

485
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: they can move, they're young, but they're not very strong.

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Speaker 1: And so when you look at when you when you

487
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Speaker 1: have a hundred yards to play with and fifty three

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Speaker 1: wide and all that, they you know, you might pass it,

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Speaker 1: you might run it. They can be effective, but when

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Speaker 1: it gets down there and it's just me versus you

491
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Speaker 1: and who's tougher and stronger, they don't push people back.

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Speaker 1: And this is not anything new. I mean even four

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Speaker 1: or five years ago, Travis Frederick, Zack Martin, Tyrn Smith,

494
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Speaker 1: this was the worst third and one team in the league,

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Speaker 1: or even third and goal. So they have a hard

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Speaker 1: time knocking people off the ball when you get down

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Speaker 1: inside the five, and it's hard for those receivers to

498
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Speaker 1: really find room. You have to just run people over,

499
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Speaker 1: and they're not good enough to do this right now.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's where it comes down. It's just

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Speaker 1: the line can block, pass, block, okay and all that,

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Speaker 1: but they're not going to just knock people off. Not

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Speaker 1: Christian Covington any serious and not ca ing back, well,

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00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: let me let me take that, and I want to

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Speaker 1: combine things that you just said and something at Amber said.

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Speaker 1: Amber talked about the red zone and talked about how

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Speaker 1: much they struggle in the red zone. Is it your

508
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Speaker 1: thought then that the reason that they're struggling in the

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Speaker 1: red zone is because they don't have the power in

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00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: their offensive line and they can't run the ball fake. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest issue right there, is that

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Speaker 1: you know, who's worried about CD going over the top

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Speaker 1: or Michael got you You're not worried about that. You

514
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Speaker 1: have to It's just big boy football. You've got to

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Speaker 1: knock people back. And as good as I think Connor

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Speaker 1: McGovern and Connor Williams and and Looney, I mean that

517
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Speaker 1: they could be even you know, in the tackles too,

518
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Speaker 1: but they're not just overpowering type linemen. And I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a problem that they're not

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Speaker 1: built that way. Think about their tight ends. Their tight

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00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: ends aren't tight ends. No one's talking about the pancake

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Speaker 1: that Dalton Schultz had. It's the fact that he's got

523
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Speaker 1: fifty catches. Wasn't this still a problem last year? I

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Speaker 1: mean different coaching staff and everything. Kellen Moore were still

525
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: directing the offense. But at the same time, if I

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Speaker 1: remember correctly, that we're still struggling a lot last year,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that I think we talked about a lot,

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Speaker 1: was their struggles with the red zone. They were great

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Speaker 1: prior to that and they could score touchdowns and all that,

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Speaker 1: but once they got into that red zone, it was

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Speaker 1: always been it's been a problem. It's been a problem

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years. It just makes me wonder

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Speaker 1: past the injuries. You know, it's a it's a problem

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00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: and it's been a problem. But the one difference I

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00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: think now is is nobody's worried about Andy Dalton getting

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Speaker 1: into the end zone running and that that was a

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Speaker 1: weapon that they did have with with Dak. I mean,

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00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: that's one more when things break down and we've seen it.

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Speaker 1: He's done it more than I think any quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys history running the ball in. So that's another

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00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: weapon down there. But it's the old line. To me,

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00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: it's the line and not being able to knock people back.

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00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: And I also will point this out last year, I

544
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: think the issues were a little bit different, same result.

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00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: I think they were a little bit different. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I remember talking a lot about Travis Frederick and his

547
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: inability to be able to hold up at the point

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00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: of attack. Like we knew he wasn't the same player

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00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: last year. He was not as powerful as he had

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Speaker 1: been earlier in his career. And the same thing with

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Speaker 1: Connor and Connor Williams, and so I think you still

552
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: had problems right there in the middle with regards to power.

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Speaker 1: So I think it was the same problem different players.

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00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: I think it was the same problem though, and it

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00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: crept up on them and it was a problem for

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Speaker 1: them in the red zone. It was a reason why

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00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: they couldn't really push people back and be able to

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Speaker 1: get some of those critical yards in some of those situations. Dave,

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Speaker 1: do you agree with what they're saying or do you

560
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: have a different take on maybe why they're not as

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Speaker 1: good in the red zone. I'm really reluctant to and

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Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't be. It's the NFL. You gotta do

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00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: what you gotta do with who you have. But I'm

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Speaker 1: reluctant to criticize Kellen Moore win And I mean, how

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Speaker 1: many how many Day one starters is he working with

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Speaker 1: right now? He's got his three receivers, and I guess

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00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: technically you would consider Joe Looney a day one starter

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00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams. So what that's that's fun. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: he's got all right, he's got half of his offense.

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Speaker 1: He's still he's missing a lot of it, is my point,

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Speaker 1: including the guy that's supposed to make it work. So

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Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to bash him. And I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think play calling was a fair criticism last year.

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00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: Amber is totally right, like this was an issue last

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00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: year when they were much healthier, So I think you

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00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: need to look into that. Um. I hesitate to criticize

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00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: the play calling when you're so compromised right now, but

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Speaker 1: I do think when you factor in that it was

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Speaker 1: a thing last year, it's probably a a It's a

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Speaker 1: worthwhile conversation, even if I, like I said, even if

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Speaker 1: I'm reluctant, because yeah, I mean they had everybody last

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Speaker 1: year and it was still an issue. Ye. All right, UM,

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Speaker 1: to talk about the running backs. We've talked about how

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Speaker 1: jump right in. Let's talk about the running backs. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Zeke goes twelve carries for forty eight yards four yards

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Speaker 1: thirty two snaps in the game. Poler, on the other hand,

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: had eleven carries, one less thirty nine yards three point

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Speaker 1: five average. He had nineteen snaps in the game. A

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Speaker 1: little closer to fifty of the snaps not necessarily carries,

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Speaker 1: two guys and splitting rips. Let's start first with you, Dave.

640
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: I think it's an important caveat. I'm pointing this out

641
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday. I mean, Zeke wasn't even a guarantee

642
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: to play in this game. I mean he said he

643
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: was going to, but he's questionable on the injury report

644
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: with a calf. He's gonna gut through it. He said

645
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: after the game that it was sore. And then on

646
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: top of that, you know, the Cowboys had a multiple

647
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: possession lead really from the jump, so you know, that's

648
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: the smart way to play it in these circumstances, like, yeah,

649
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: limit your injured running backs touches when you have control

650
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: of the game and when he's hurt. So I think

651
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. Having said that, Yeah, obviously,

652
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons, Tony Pollard just seems to

653
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: have more juice. Like when he hits a hole, he

654
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: he hits it at a different speed. I think everybody

655
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: would agree with that, regardless of what the reasoning is.

656
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable with him getting more touches for a

657
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: variety of reasons. The Cowboys aren't going to say this,

658
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: but it's looking like a long shot that they're going

659
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. So why rack up meaningless mileage

660
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: on your star? I mean, why do that? Like, Zeke

661
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: doesn't need to touch the ball sixty seventy times over

662
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 1: the next three weeks. If anything, he needs, like, let

663
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: him get some rest and get ready for a season

664
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: that won't be so difficult. I do think It's funny, though,

665
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: go back and watch, you know, the long run that

666
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: he had. I think it was in the fourth quarter.

667
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: If Michael Gallop holds his block on his cornerback for

668
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: half a second longer, I doubt Zeke scores, but he's

669
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: going fifty sixty yards for sure, And so it's just

670
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: funny to think what we'd be talking about if Zeke's

671
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: stat line was twelve carries for ninety eight yards. You know,

672
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: so I do think that's interesting anyway, I digress. Yeah,

673
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable with Tony Pollard getting more work over

674
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: the next three weeks, Hamber. I do want to see

675
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: more of Tony Poler, But at the same time, I'm

676
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: always I'm still hesitant as far as saying, oh, yeah,

677
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: I want to take snaps away from Zeke. I still

678
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: think that Zeke, even though we haven't seen the old

679
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: Zeke this year, I still think that he has it

680
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: and it's just a matter of time and getting him

681
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: back into the groove or something. But I think that,

682
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're not really going to be having this

683
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: debate any for much longer. I think I'm right with Dave.

684
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: I think that this next few weeks is going to

685
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: be an opportunity for us to get to the point

686
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: where we do get to see more of Tony Poler

687
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: and kind of put that whole debate to rest for

688
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: a little bit as far as depending on how turns out,

689
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: because if Pauler kills it, then the debate is gonna

690
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: only grow even bigger. But I think that in the

691
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: next few weeks we'll we'll hopefully get a better idea

692
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: of what that really would look like when Pauler gets

693
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: more placed rather than Zeke. Yeah whatever, Yeah, I'm just

694
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I don't I don't really have

695
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: an answer, Like, I want to see both of them.

696
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: I definitely want to see what Pauler can do. But

697
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm not ready to take away

698
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: snaps from Zeke yet. Yeah, all right, glad Nick, I

699
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: think you know, whether or not it matters to anyone else,

700
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: I think Zeke wants a thousand, you know, he's I

701
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: think that's a that's a thing for him, and I

702
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: think he's gonna and you know, he's had opportunities to

703
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: sit out. Okay, there's other players on this team that

704
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have played, uh, you know, short weeks calf bruise.

705
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: You know, he you know, he's come back and he's

706
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: played and and you know it matters to him, and

707
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: so I think he'll he'll play. But I mean, I

708
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: don't disagree that that that you know, there's no there's

709
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: no need to have twenty five carries for him. It's

710
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: a healthy balance, and and yesterday was a good example

711
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: of that, you know. And it's not just third and

712
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: one short yardage that they go with the bigger back.

713
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Paulard's getting some snaps in there, and he

714
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: got some around the goal line too. So I think

715
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: I think what they're doing in this game is pretty

716
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: good balance. Yeah, I think it's going to be very interesting.

717
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dave, Good Dave, No, I just you know

718
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 1: what's funny, Nick as you like you say he wants

719
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: a thousand, and I don't disagree at his current average.

720
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: If he keeps up his current average, like he would

721
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: hit a thousand in week seventeen, just in time for

722
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: the season to be over. I mean, if it were

723
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: up to me, no chance in hell, like there's I mean,

724
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, it looks more than likely that either New

725
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: York or Washington's gonna win the division. If there's nothing

726
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: to play for in week seventeen, shoot, maybe even in

727
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: week sixteen, I would be like, sorry, buddy, I want

728
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: to say what Rico Dowdle looks like. I'm like, a

729
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: shame about your no thousand yards. But we'll get him

730
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: next year, hey, And I don't. I haven't talked to

731
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: Zeke all year. I haven't. I mean, he's not a

732
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: player that I that I talked to after the game

733
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: because he always goes to the podium, so I haven't

734
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: talked to him. I have no idea that that that

735
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: that's what he wants or I just I would imagine

736
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: that it would be a big deal to him, but

737
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that. And I don't even know if

738
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: there's a contract incentive or anything like that for him,

739
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: but you know, he wants to play well. I do

740
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: think this is going to create a very interesting dynamic

741
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: if if Pollard plays more, if Pollard just keeps playing

742
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: at the rate that he's playing, and he starts really

743
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: you know, knocking down some big runs and keeps looking

744
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: like and that's the thing, like, I don't know that

745
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: his stat line is so much better that we all

746
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: are like, oh my god. The production is so much better.

747
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: It's just it looks different when he gets the ball,

748
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: the way he hits holes, it's different than what you're

749
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: seeing from Zeke. And I really think if he has

750
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: some big runs here down the stretch, I think it's

751
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: going to create a very interesting conversation. Maybe not an

752
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: interesting conversation with coaches and executives, but I think among

753
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: media people in US, I think it's going to create

754
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: a very interesting conversation in this offseason and heading into

755
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: next season about how you distribute the ball because you're

756
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: gonna have your guy back, and you're gonna have a

757
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: lot of the pieces you hope back on the offensive line.

758
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: If you think Pollard gives you more juice, then that's

759
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: a better person to have in there more frequently. With

760
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: all the other weapons they got on this offense and

761
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: an offensive line that can create some gaps for him.

762
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: So I just really think that right now it's a

763
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: very interesting time for Zeke. And and I heard what

764
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: you were saying, Nick about him getting a thousand. I

765
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: personally think if if I were him, and I'm not

766
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: gonna speak for him, but if I were him, I

767
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: would be thinking, I'm trying to keep this guy off

768
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: the field, because the last thing I want is him

769
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: showing more than maybe I'm showing right now. And maybe

770
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: there are reasons why, maybe that injury is a little

771
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: worse than than he's letting on. Who knows. All I

772
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: know is it looked different right now. It does look

773
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: different when Pollard's on the field, then when you see Zeke.

774
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: All right, One other thing I wanted to hit real

775
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: quick before we end the show. The defense. Hell Cincinnati's

776
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: seven points. It was the first time since I think

777
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: it was two thousand nineteen, Week three of twenty nineteen

778
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: that they held an opponent under ten points. So it

779
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: was a good outing for the defense, something different than

780
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: they've done in passed outing certainly this season. Was this

781
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: a turning point for this defense? Or do you think

782
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: this was just merely a function of the fact that

783
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: they played a really bad offense. Nick, Let's start with you, well,

784
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: bad offense, bad quarterback. You know, he's not very good,

785
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: and you're not He's not very good. They don't have

786
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons over there, you know, leave it

787
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: to aj Green to come out of retirement and against

788
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and play. But I mean, but then again,

789
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: let's also look at the other side though, too. I mean,

790
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: other than Jordan Lewis, every cornerback on the team has

791
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: been on the practice squad at some point this year.

792
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean Chris Westree, Are we kidding me? And Chris

793
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: Westree he tried to quit last year? Yeah, I mean

794
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: if he's playing in a game. I mean same at

795
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: the safety position too, So I mean the guys that

796
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: they've got on the secondary for them to play that way,

797
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean that that was that was pretty good. And

798
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: I thought Jalen probably played his best game of the

799
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: season yesterday. I mean, say what you will, but I

800
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: thought he had a pretty nice game. He seemed like

801
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: he was physical and flying around the ball. For Jalen Dave,

802
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm about to sound like a hater, and I apologize

803
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: for that way. I mean, they did play a really

804
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: good game. It was Nick Nick on Friday was like,

805
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: I can't believe Brandon Allen plays in the NFL, So

806
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: I can't forgive me if I'm not super duper impressed.

807
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: The other thing, and they did it. They forced three fumbles,

808
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: they scored off of one of them. They get credit

809
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: for that, but everything we know about fumbles is that

810
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of random, you know, Like I mean,

811
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: the amount of variants, there's no like you can't count

812
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: on that, you know what I mean? Like I said

813
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: this yesterday is and I know he didn't pick off

814
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, but like Jesse Bates made this great read

815
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: on a throat to Dulman, he undercut the receiver, dove

816
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: in front of it, almost picked it off Like that

817
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: is that is instinctual playmaking and understanding. Fumbles are almost luck.

818
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I'm gonna jump in those

819
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: two forced bubbles. No, no, no way, Thompsons. I think

820
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: I think there are two fumbles that they created yesterday

821
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: that were about how they played the balls, specifically takes

822
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: like that was him ripping the ball as so that

823
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you can call Tank and Tank and

824
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: Darian Thompson get a lot of credit for forcing those fumbles.

825
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: The one that the one that swung the entire game

826
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: became because the guy had dropped it when he off

827
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: somebody's butt. Absolutely, um, but all I mean, okay, but

828
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: do you really think that's the first time Tank has

829
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: punched the ball when he tackled somebody else? But but

830
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: I like again, but yeah, but I just don't think

831
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: it's fair for us. You can't play it both ways.

832
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: We can't say, on one hand, they can create turnovers

833
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: and then they create turnovers to say, well, turnovers are random, Like,

834
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: I just think it's I think it's unfair. Yeah, I

835
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: think turnovers are random for the most part. But you're right.

836
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to take that credit away,

837
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: but I just don't have a ton of confidence that

838
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: it is something that they can definitely replicate. Like, I'm

839
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: not you know, I don't expect them to just force

840
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: a million fumbles over these last three games. I think

841
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: the the twelve games that we saw before this are

842
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: probably a greater indicator of what they are than this one.

843
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like I said, I mean, I sound like

844
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: a hater because they went out and they did it,

845
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not convinced that it's something that's going to

846
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: happen consistently moving forward, not this season at least. Amber. Yes,

847
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: great way in, great plays, good job, But is this

848
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: a turning point. Absolutely don't think so. Yesterday when we

849
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: were watching the game, Derek, you were out and I

850
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: don't know much about the history of the Bengals, but

851
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: you were talking about some guy that used to do

852
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: the shuffle dance back when I was born, and that

853
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: was the last time. Apparently Woods go ahead. Ever'm sorry, Yeah,

854
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: you're like the Ikey shuffle. I'm like, what the heck

855
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: is that? But just to my point, based on what

856
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: you said, it sounds like this team has been bad

857
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: for a very very long time. So it's just hard

858
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: to be that motivated and that excited about the kind

859
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: of performance we did see yesterday. Yes, it was great,

860
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: but as far as taking that and applying that into

861
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: some excitement in the near future or you know what's

862
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: going to happen next, It's just it's hard to get

863
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: there looking at what kind of team they were facing.

864
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: And I get that Nick said, yes, the Cowboys are

865
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: bad as well this year, but at the same time,

866
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: it's just I'm just not there. I'm not just I'm

867
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: definitely not there to say this was a turning point

868
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: for the defense. It's not a turning point. It means

869
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: it says that the it is at the end of

870
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: the movie almost. I mean, there's no more turning points

871
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Um, And I think you know

872
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: they got a good win at noon yesterday, but from

873
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: three to six. They lost. They lost because what Washington did,

874
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: and they lost. When Washington beat the Steelers, that that

875
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: was it. When Washington beat the Steelers, then they don't

876
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: have because think about that. They're not supposed to be

877
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers, but they did. And if they didn't win

878
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: that game, then it would be very very interesting with

879
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: these two teams sitting at five and all that. I

880
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: don't know how the Cowboys can win the division at

881
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: this point, other than if Washington just loses out maybe

882
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: and they got two teams that are they have losing

883
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: records that they're playing at the end. They got Carolina

884
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: and they've got really yeah. Yeah, and Jalen Hurts. You know,

885
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: he played well, but we've seen these happen. We've seen

886
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: games like this before. Like you get a guy like that,

887
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: he gets a spark, it's cool, and then defensive coordinators say, oh, okay,

888
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: well hold on, let's let's let's we got something for him.

889
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: And he'll have some struggles too, but you know it's

890
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: probably not it's too late, too late to turn in

891
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: the corner. It was just it was just this team's bad.

892
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: You know, go beat him, Yeah, and dominate the game

893
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: if you can and they did. Here's the one thing

894
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: I will say, and again we're coming close to in

895
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: this show. But you look at and when I when

896
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: I ask about a turning point, I think, what Mike McCarthy.

897
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: You listen to what the players are saying, and what

898
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy saying, I think what he's trying to convince

899
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: the players of is right now is important because not

900
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: necessarily looking at the playoffs, but because this is the

901
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: These are the moments when you can start creating some

902
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: some momentum for the future. Now, I've never been a

903
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: big fan of you know, at the end of the year,

904
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: you can create momentum for the next year. But I

905
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: think he is convincing his team that they may be

906
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: able to create some momentum for the next season. And

907
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: especially in a situation where you have a defensive coordinator

908
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: who has all season I think fallen short. If by

909
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: chance they can get this defense to play better at

910
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: the end of the season, it might point to Okay,

911
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: some of these guys are starting to get it. Some

912
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: of these guys may be starting to get this scheme.

913
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: Maybe it makes you going into next going to next year,

914
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: feeling like, Okay, we feel the players feeling more confident

915
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: in the scheme, feeling more confident in what they're asked

916
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: to do, and that may help you going into next year.

917
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: So that's the reason I asked about Attorney. And I

918
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: cannot play a game though quick. I know we're running

919
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: out of time, but I'll play a game. I'll let

920
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: David and Amber answer this defense the guys that played yesterday,

921
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: starting with the coordinator. Do we think Mike Nolan will

922
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: be back as the coordinader next years on what happens

923
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: these last three games. I don't think so. I don't

924
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: think Hamilton. I'll just go down the list. Gallamor yes, yes,

925
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: Antoine would, yeah, maybe all the Smith maybe should I

926
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: think he should? Vanderesh, yes, Jahylen. Do we have enough

927
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: time he would be here? I don't know if Smith

928
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: for Shard, Robinson, Darren Thompson, Xavier Woods, I'll say no

929
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: to that way through the whole roster. But I'm just

930
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, Gregory Lawrence, d law Yeah, Crawford probably not.

931
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: So my point to that is starting with the coordinator

932
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: down and building all this stuff. I don't know if

933
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: you want these defensive guys getting all excited about next

934
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: year because they won't be here, but but there are

935
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: some keys in there. You want those linebackers to play

936
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: a little bit better. You want Tank to play better

937
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: or play well, yeah, you want you want Gallimore to

938
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: start feeling comfortable where he is. I mean, I think

939
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: there are some guys that you look at and you're like, hey,

940
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: if I can get these guys to start buying in,

941
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: then when we get this, all those other guys out

942
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: of here, the new guys we bring in, at least

943
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: what they'll be hearing from the other guys is, hey,

944
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: this system works, rather than looking kind of side eye

945
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: at the coach every time the coach talks, because they

946
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: don't believe in the scheme, right, I know, I know,

947
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 1: you know, we're definitely we're out of time on the show,

948
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: but we don't know that the scheme will be the

949
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: same in twenty twenty one. And on top of that,

950
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: they like, we are we already did this, like we

951
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: were doing the oh well, like you know they'll feel

952
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: better next year, like we did that. And then they

953
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: went right back off the cliff against Washington and Baltimore

954
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: and so you know, like turning it around against the

955
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: number like the worst freaking team in the league or

956
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: one of the two or three worst teams in the league.

957
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: It just doesn't. Again, all credit to them for doing it,

958
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: because they could have gone out and played terribly, which

959
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: is what I sort of expected to see, and they didn't,

960
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: So they get credit for that. But I really dam

961
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: not putting any faith into anything beyond that. David Amber,

962
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: you guys both are not too excited about this game,

963
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: and that's fine. What what would be exciting in the

964
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: last three games? Win them all or these like win

965
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: all these last three games, have a four game No,

966
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm asking, like, what would it be? They just left

967
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: that because they're not doing that. But I mean, I

968
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: mean beating who can beat They can they beat anybody

969
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: that I if you, if you want me to get excited,

970
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: I want them to play really well, look like a

971
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: competent football team down these last three weeks, and still

972
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: give me an exciting draft pick that we can get

973
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: excited about for our draft coverage. Like that's what I want.

974
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: What would get me excited is to finally if we

975
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: get to see some kind of consistency. If you know,

976
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: it's great when we talk about these type of games

977
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: where they get some great plays and all that, but

978
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: they have been lacking consistency all throughout the season. So

979
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: if they are able to find even if they lose game,

980
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: but we still see some explosiveness, we still seem some

981
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: of them creating plays and just being consistent in these

982
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: last three games. I think that's something that I would

983
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: be excited for because it gives me a sense of

984
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: just then being more connected as a whole, regardless of

985
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: the team being completely different next year, which is what

986
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: we are expecting, Just having that kind of mentality of

987
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we are able to find some

988
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: consistency here, but other than that, nothing else will get

989
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: me excited. Yeah, Nick went down the list of all

990
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: those defensive guys that probably won't be here. What I

991
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: want to see down the stretch is the guys that

992
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: will be here play well. That's all I want to see.

993
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: I just I don't care about the outcome. I don't

994
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: care if they win or lose. I want to see

995
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: those guys play well, particularly those young guys like Gallimore.

996
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: I want to see them play well because that tells

997
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: me they're starting to get it and I can have

998
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: some hope, like some glimmer of hope that maybe next

999
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: year they can put it together and it can be

1000
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: a better season. If those guys can't get better, then

1001
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: you're real because they're not going anywhere. A certain guys

1002
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: that aren't going anywhere, if they're not playing well down

1003
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: the stretch, then it kind of just takes away from

1004
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: that hope that you can have this offseason. All right,

1005
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, join us. Will be back tomorrow. We'll

1006
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: get some big picture looks at what's going on in

1007
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: the NFC East. Looking like the Washington Football team will

1008
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: probably win it. We'll talk about that tomorrow too then

1009
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: for Nick Even, Dave helm and Amber Garcia. I am

1010
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,160
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1011
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:58,000
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1012
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,880
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