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Speaker 2: Now it's time for this week's Redeemed team member, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Hulu's Chad Powers. This week it's Jared Goff,

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Speaker 2: the underappreciated GoF leads the NFL in passing, touchdowns and

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Speaker 2: All right, Danny parkins, as he is prone to do

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Speaker 2: at least once a month, sometimes more. FS one is

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Speaker 2: joining us and it's a day of breaking news. There

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Speaker 2: are multiple reports. This is crazy. Sometimes you don't predict something,

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Speaker 2: but you're not surprised when it happens. Like your buddy

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Speaker 2: who drives too fast. You wouldn't predict he gets into

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Speaker 2: a fire hyder, and you'd be like, well, Bob drives

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Speaker 2: a little fast. Bill Belichick may not last the season.

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Speaker 2: They're working on a buyout, and you know, first whenever

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Speaker 2: you get a friends and family staff, He and Mike

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Speaker 2: Lombardi kids on the staff, highly compensated. I'm never a

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Speaker 2: huge fan of that. But I think sometimes we look

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Speaker 2: at college as this inferior product of the NFL, and

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Speaker 2: in terms of like talent, it is, but it is

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Speaker 2: a really hard trail to navigate. Donors, boosters, nil AD, NCAA.

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Speaker 2: When you're an NFL coach, you have an impulsive owner.

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Speaker 2: Then you kind of just do what you want to do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Brett Veach is not banging down a door

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Speaker 2: to tell Andy what to run on second and before

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Speaker 2: I could argue there are more landmines for a college

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Speaker 2: He's just not built for college football.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he ever wanted to be there in

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Speaker 1: and then he won, and then he did all of

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Speaker 1: I guess coaching in college is better than coach than

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Speaker 1: doing media, and I'm sure for a lifelong coach that

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Speaker 1: reporting around that, the loser, and then that's all before

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Speaker 1: any of the things that you're talking about, which are

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Speaker 1: and then you start getting mocked for being there, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like Labardi's an NFL guy. Charlie Weiss had

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Speaker 2: Some of those guys lived out there for ten years.

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Speaker 2: Like Bobby Knight, Bobby, you gotta do the one and done.

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Speaker 2: you remember, they get Cam Newton, he praised Cam Newton.

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Speaker 2: if you look at that last draft, when Belichick knew

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds crazy and I don't believe it's true,

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Speaker 1: clearly going horribly. But like in twenty years when we're

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Speaker 3: Pretty clear, pretty clear, Pretty.

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Speaker 1: Clear, even though the earlier Super Bowls before Brady was

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Speaker 1: Bill won the or Tom won the breakup with what

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Speaker 1: to be not a majority opinion, Like I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a consensus, but his greatest football coach

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Speaker 3: Name the one.

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Speaker 2: Borderline Hall of Fame guy whose last four years eliminate

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Speaker 3: That it did.

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Speaker 2: It does subtract from his ten great years.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the argument that h Richard Sherman

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Speaker 1: Which he definitely seems like a very nice guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very So I've had a couple of winning weeks in

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Speaker 2: I've had a couple of stinkers where I've just not

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Speaker 3: Be that as it may.

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Speaker 2: The most interesting bet on board, and one I'm feeling

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Speaker 2: really strongly about is Washington minus four and a half

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Speaker 2: at home against Chicago. So I think a bye week

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Speaker 2: is really valuable. When you have a veteran quarterback, a

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Speaker 2: proven coach a Peyton Andy Reid with Mahomes, you can

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Speaker 2: really add layers to a playbook. Arians and Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: come out of the by and don't lose again. But

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Speaker 2: when you have Caleb Williams and you're just got you're

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Speaker 2: to get the consistency ramped up. You're not really spending

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Speaker 2: it adding layers and layers to a playbook, so you

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Speaker 2: don't get that advantage. Also, Washington now Terry McLaurin back

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuels. If you watch the second half of the

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Speaker 2: Chargers Commander's game, Jaden Daniels was Jayden Daniels spinning it, accurate,

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Speaker 2: moving it was Okay, let's not forget how good he

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Speaker 2: was last year.

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Speaker 3: He looked like that guy.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite of the week. I also

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Speaker 2: have this. I think I've told you this, the number four.

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Speaker 2: I always take the favorite because Vegas doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: make anybody a four to four and a half point favorite.

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Speaker 2: They want to go three. They want to go seven.

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Speaker 2: When they do that four, four and a half five,

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Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, this team is better. We'd prefer we'd

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Speaker 2: prefer to get it down to three.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to go to four.

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Speaker 2: I think Washington's my favorite bet of the week.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope you're wrong. We'll start there. I what

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Speaker 1: I will push back on is you're right. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that the advantage for the Bears coming out of

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Speaker 1: the buy is the same as it is for Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Bruce Arians in terms of like extra game

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Speaker 1: planning for Washington, like that is probably not what was happening,

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Speaker 1: but like, you know what I'd settle for as a

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Speaker 1: Bears guy, figuring out how to run the ball a

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Speaker 1: little bit like that. I do think that having a

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Speaker 1: new coach that is trying to instill a new system.

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Speaker 1: Having an early buy is helpful because it's more about

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Speaker 1: self scouting. It's more about like an extra week of

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Speaker 1: training camp. And so yeah, it's maybe not like the

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Speaker 1: conventional ad, but like, maybe the Bears will get the

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Speaker 1: play call in a few seconds faster, Maybe they'll have

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Speaker 1: a few fewer pre snap penalties. Maybe they'd have a

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Speaker 1: game with no pre snap penalties. That would be amazing,

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Speaker 1: like and so like, those are low bars to clear,

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Speaker 1: but I have thought that the Bears have gotten better

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Speaker 1: week to week to week with Caleb Williams playing on schedule,

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Speaker 1: playing in the pocket. What Ben Johnson is clearly trying

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Speaker 1: to get out of him. Some of it was the

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Speaker 1: opponent right Dallas's defense is a lay up. The Raiders

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Speaker 1: defense hadn't been very good, that is clearly part of it.

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Speaker 1: And Washington has a very good pass rush. And we'll

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Speaker 1: see how healthy the Bears offensive line ends up being.

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Speaker 1: We don't know who's going to start a left tackle

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Speaker 1: or right tackle at this moment in time, which is

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Speaker 1: not great for the Bears. But I do expect the

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Speaker 1: Bears to play well because I think that they are

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Speaker 1: I think that they are very bought in on Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I do think he's a good coach, and I think

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Speaker 1: that they are going to self scout like Grady Jared

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Speaker 1: and TJ. Edwards, should help their run defense a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I just I'm expecting a great game, So I

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Speaker 1: don't love it as nearly as much as you do

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Speaker 1: from either side.

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Speaker 3: I don't you have a pick you love not in

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean again, but part of this is,

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Speaker 1: I really, really I've got a lot of like take

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Speaker 1: equity in Caleb Williams being good and this is such

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Speaker 1: a fun spot for Ben Johnson and the Bears. Like

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Speaker 1: everybody left Caleb for dead in the Jaden Daniels Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams debate, Right, Jaden has this the best rookie year

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Caleb Williams rocky at best, gets his

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Speaker 1: play caller fired, as head coach fired. Everyone's got Jayden

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Speaker 1: Daniels is this great guy. It's also the game you'll

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Speaker 1: remember where the Bears lost on the Hail Mary last

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Speaker 1: year they were four and two. Tyreek Stevenson is taunting

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Speaker 1: the crowd and then his guy catches the Hail Mary

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Speaker 1: and then the Bears lose ten straight games, so exercising

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Speaker 1: the demons of the Hail Mary game. Caleb v Jayden,

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson out of a bye like I just I

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Speaker 1: have a sneaking suspicion that we're going to get the

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Speaker 1: best version of the Bears. They might lose, but I

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Speaker 1: will be shocked if they play poorly, Like I would

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Speaker 1: just be shocked if they played poorly. And I still

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Speaker 1: have enough root in me for the Bears that I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna not bet this one because I'll be sweating

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Speaker 1: it enough, which is a little embarrassing as a degenerate gambler.

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Speaker 1: But as of now, I have no bet in the game.

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Speaker 2: All right, baseball, Cubs beat the Brewers four to three.

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Speaker 2: The Brewers have been the better team all year. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be frustrating as hell to live in Chicago

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Speaker 2: and have the Packers and the Brewers small market Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: be superior organizations.

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Speaker 3: Although I think Ricketts.

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Speaker 2: Is a really good, above average owner, really in the community,

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Speaker 2: really respected, really smart guy. Based on how the Cubs

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Speaker 2: season is gone, Let's say the Cubs lose in four

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Speaker 2: or five, how will that be viewed? Because I know

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Speaker 2: when you're a Mariner fan, they're the only team that's

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Speaker 2: never been to a World Series. If they get to

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Speaker 2: the ALCS and they get overwhelmed by Toronto in six,

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Speaker 2: you'd be like, listen, what a great season. Most of

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Speaker 2: their guys are in arbitration. It's a young team, I

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Speaker 2: mean cal Rawley this year's only making two and a half,

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Speaker 2: like Seattle's young, ascending, loyal fans, only team in the Northwest.

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Speaker 2: If it goes to the American League Championship Series and

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Speaker 2: you win some games, it's just a magical season to remember.

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Speaker 2: New York once Garrett Cole got hurt, was delusional if

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Speaker 2: they thought they were going to win the thing. The

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Speaker 2: Dodgers just have far more good players, and the Brewers

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Speaker 2: ended up being better than the Yankees and the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 2: I do believe will win that series. They just they

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Speaker 2: get they hit too much. I mean the Yankee starters.

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Speaker 3: Toronto is hitting.

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Speaker 2: Four thirty nine against Yankee starters. It's like Beer League

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Speaker 2: softball numbers. So, but how are the Cubs viewed because

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee has been they swept the Dodgers this year, they.

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Speaker 3: Have been a freight train.

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Speaker 2: Let's say they lose the next game, or let's say

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Speaker 2: they take it five and lose.

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Speaker 3: How will that be viewed in Chicago?

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Speaker 1: Massive disappointment and wildly frustrating, if not expected. Few layers

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Speaker 1: to it, and maybe the biggest one is the Cubs

592
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Speaker 1: stole Craig Council from the Bridge right their manager. They

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Speaker 1: made him the highest paid manager in the sport by far.

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Speaker 1: Everyone has biases, you have to you can trust the

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Speaker 1: people who admit their biases. I'm friends with Craig Counsel.

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Speaker 1: He was my brother's childhood best friend. I've known him

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Speaker 1: since I was six years old. I do a big

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Speaker 1: charity thing with the Cubs. Like so, I know Craig

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Speaker 1: pretty well, and I root for the Cubs since I

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Speaker 1: was a little kid. Craig's brilliant. He's a great manager.

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Speaker 1: But the Cubs dwarf the Brewers in payroll. They stole

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Speaker 1: their manager, and they had fewer wins than the Brewers

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Speaker 1: last year, and they had fewer wins than the Brewers

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Speaker 1: this year, And then if the Brewers are the team

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Speaker 1: that eliminates them from the postseason, it's just not acceptable

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Speaker 1: given the payroll and the resources disparities. It's just not

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Speaker 1: like and Tom Ricketts, by the way, would say the

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Speaker 1: same thing, like he will not be happy with the

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Speaker 1: result of that, and Cubs fans would say, well, then

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Speaker 1: spend more money. And the Cubs were disappointing at the

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Speaker 1: deadline because Justin Steele, who's their ace, got hurt in

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Speaker 1: April out for the year, and they did not make

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Speaker 1: a big buy at the deadline. They may four moves,

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Speaker 1: mostly peripherals, smaller moves, and that was seen as very

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Speaker 1: disappointing because they didn't go out and get a true

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Speaker 1: difference maker.

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Speaker 3: Did those moves help.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, there really was no true difference

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Speaker 1: making pitcher who was traded. Like it was a fairly

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Speaker 1: benign deadline in that way, but fans don't really want

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Speaker 1: to hear that. And so Steele got hurt in April,

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Speaker 1: and then Cad Horton's their rookie pitcher, who was an

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Speaker 1: absolute stud. He got hurt in September, so like so

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Speaker 1: it was, oh, wow, Horton's gonna be able to carry him,

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Speaker 1: and then he got hurt right before the playoffs, so

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Speaker 1: they started Colin. They had an opener in Game two

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Speaker 1: against the Padres. They did a bullpen game in game

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Speaker 1: two of the wild card series. Like that's how depleted

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Speaker 1: the Cub's pitching staff is so at this point and

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Speaker 1: showed him. Monaga, who they've paid a bunch of money

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Speaker 1: to and was really good, has been struggling and giving

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Speaker 1: up a ton of homers and he got shelled in

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Speaker 1: Game two against Milwaukee. So the Cubs just do not

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Speaker 1: have enough arms. So I will be shocked if the

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat the Brewers in this series. I'll be shocked

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Speaker 1: by it. But a lot of people have wanted to

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Speaker 1: blame Counsel and I just don't think that that is right.

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Speaker 1: And yes, again I am friends with him, but I

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Speaker 1: think objectively, they don't have the arms. They do not

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Speaker 1: have the horses, and given their payroll and their advantages,

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Speaker 1: it's wildly disappointing. So hopefully this is a big off

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Speaker 1: season for them, and I mean listen, first of all,

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Speaker 1: hopefully they make a run and they shock me and

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Speaker 1: they make me eat my words. But assuming with your

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Speaker 1: pretense that they lose in four or five, Cubs fans

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Speaker 1: are not going to be satisfied with this year because

647
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Speaker 1: of the inactivity of the deadline and because of who

648
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: they lost to. They feel like they lost a little

649
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: brother and pick up and it's embarrassing you.

650
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: Know, it's.

651
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: It's interesting about how this is more of a player

652
00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: empowerment era the last fifteen years than previously. Yeah, outside

653
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: of the SEC and even that scaled back in the

654
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: last three or four years, where you can still break

655
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: players like it's the seventies. I mean, not shy of

656
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: Woody Hayes, but like, like bad behavior looks like a

657
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: lunatic dad screaming at a sun. You can still get

658
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: away with that right in the South. I don't think

659
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: it works as well in the Big Ten. It's just

660
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: a different it. It doesn't work at all on the

661
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: West Coast at all.

662
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: It's how about how about the Cardinals? The Cardinals? Yeah,

663
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: finding finding Jonathan Gannon? I reread that story. It's hard

664
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: to cut you off, but I was just like, like,

665
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see anyone outraged by.

666
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: It, Like I didn't see so were you bothered by that?

667
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: No? I wasn't. I mean, I like, if a team

668
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: wants to find him, that's fine. But like when I

669
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: first saw that he was fine, I was like, Oh,

670
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: did the NFL find him? And I was like, no,

671
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: did the did the players union file a grievance? No?

672
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Was there like a big amount of meat uproar over

673
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: what Jonathan Gannon did on the sideline. No, had any

674
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: players come out to our knowledge and said that it

675
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: was completely out of line, Like no, like he's what

676
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: de Marcado did was intergalactically stupid and his coach blew

677
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: a gasket, unbecoming. I wouldn't want him to do it

678
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: to my kid in little league or even in like

679
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: high school football, or I guess we could talk in

680
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: college for football and professional sports, I don't know a

681
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: misdemeanor at best.

682
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the power dynamic in college or that, you know,

683
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: especially in the last twenty years until recently, the coach

684
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: is making eight million a year and the players not

685
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: making anything.

686
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: That's a that's a weird power dynamic, like don't touch

687
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: the player. Yeah, of course, I.

688
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: Mean what Bobby Knight did now would not be tolerated.

689
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: It wasn't tolerated then, frankly.

690
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: But no, and no, and nor should it.

691
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: But but in but as a pro athlete, yeah, yeah, yeah.

692
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's good. But I'm also not at

693
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: all offended. And and by the way, like he didn't

694
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: like he didn't hit him, but you know what I mean,

695
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: like he didn't like punch him in the face like

696
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't like he was pissed, he was angry in

697
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: the moment and he made physical contact with him, like

698
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't register to me as this terrible thing.

699
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't care that he got

700
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: fined either, Like a private business can discipline and employee

701
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: and and that's fine. But I was just wondering, like,

702
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: who were they doing that on behalf of Like who

703
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: who was actually offended by what Jonathan Gannon did to

704
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: make them feel like they needed to discipline? It made

705
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: made it made it, It made like the owner, like

706
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: maybe just like the owner the owner was.

707
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: As well as probably the weakest owner in the league.

708
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: Honestly.

709
00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting guy. I think I think there are certain

710
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: things the media is more bothered by than like fans,

711
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: and I think one of them is treatment of players.

712
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: It's always like, I mean, I could name writers that

713
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 2: they're you know, I mean, good god, Kaepernick sued the league.

714
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: He's not going to get a lot of calls when

715
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: there's an opening at quarterback like.

716
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: A bunch of media outraged over Gannon.

717
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, I'm saying, like, but I remember

718
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: during the Kaepernick years. I'm like, guys, he sued the league.

719
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: If an employee sued me at the volume and he won,

720
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: there's no collusion. I wouldn't hire them again. I wouldn't

721
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: want the headache. There is no collusion that you don't

722
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: have to say certain things, and it's understood. Like when

723
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: you're a kid and mom or dad are pissed, the

724
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: kids don't have to gather and vote on the outcome

725
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: if you do something stupid again, like they're upset, don't

726
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: play ball in the house like this. Everybody know, certainly

727
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: your wife's upset with you. I think tonight, tonight, I'll

728
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: agree with everything she says, like right, like everybody in

729
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: the house gets that.

730
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: It's the same.

731
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: So, but I do think the media in Phoenix may

732
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: have been very pro player and you can't touch a player,

733
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: and owners listen and read that stuff and are influenced

734
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 2: by it. Because my take was I would have strongly

735
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: considered cutting the player.

736
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that I wouldn't bother me. I looked it

737
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: up because I wasn't like one hundred percent sure, like

738
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: he's the exact type of player that you can cut, right,

739
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like when DeShawn Jackson did it,

740
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: like a decade and a half ago, Like, you're not

741
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: cutting DeShawn Jackson, right, like bonehead move, but one of

742
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: the best deep threats in the NFL for a decade,

743
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: Like you're not cutting Deshan but like a third year

744
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: running back on a minimum contract who had eight carries

745
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: before like leading into that game, like you can cut

746
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: that guy and so and again I'm this is I'm

747
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: not condoning making physical contact with but like Andy Reid

748
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: and Travis Kelcey physical altercation every six weeks, like and

749
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: the one that happened a couple of weeks ago was

750
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: Andy Reid initiating the physical contact with Travis Kelcey. Like

751
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: it just maybe Phoenix media was pissed. Maybe there was

752
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: some sort of huge outcry that I completely missed, But

753
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm pretty online and I'm pretty plugged into the media.

754
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: All of it was what a bonehead played by de Marcado?

755
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: And how could it happen the week after? Yeah, Dane

756
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: and I Mitchell did it.

757
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: We've had it happened three times because there was a

758
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: Jets running back who did it too. And I went

759
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: on the air that next day and I said. My

760
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: belief on why it's happening more because young people are performative,

761
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: and it starts with TikTok and ig and everybody's performative.

762
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: Go to a restaurant, people can't eat without taking pictures

763
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: of their food. You can't go anywhere in Italy, in Florence,

764
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: it's just young people taking pictures. I've never taken a selfie.

765
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: I just I'm not going to do it. I've taken

766
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: pictures of my wife and I together to send.

767
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: To the kids.

768
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's we live in this world where twenty somethings,

769
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 2: they're performative. They're always on camera and so as they're scoring,

770
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: the first thing many of them think about is I

771
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: want to put on a show. What will this look

772
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: like if friends take a picture of it? And like

773
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: ad Mitchell never scored a touchdown before, like the idea

774
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: that in that moment, the first thing you're thinking of

775
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: is show voting is it's beyond me. And apparently Adie

776
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: Mitchell is very liked by the Colts and you know

777
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: in the room. But yeah, I think you have to

778
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: send messages. I would cut players who did that. Football

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798
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: for The Atlantic. He's one of my favorite writers. He's

799
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 2: got he's kind of a theorist. He loves new data,

800
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: he loves culture changes. And last week he was talking

801
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: and he acknowledges he is center left and he admits it,

802
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't hide it. But I think he's

803
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: a really interesting read. I think he does a podcast

804
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: for The Ringer. We at the volume, we weren't really

805
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: interested in him, We didn't reach out, but he was

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Speaker 2: one of the two or three people that we were

807
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Speaker 2: just fascinated with. And he and it's really an interesting thing.

808
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: He brought up this week.

809
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Speaker 2: He was complaining about conservatives doing something and he goes,

810
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: but what equally drives me crazy is that progresses in California.

811
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: Many are against Waimo and their take is we are

812
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: unemploying people, that this is not good for jobs. And

813
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: his argument was time out. We do not want to

814
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: be the party that's anti tech. Servatives are anti science.

815
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: We can't be anti tech. And I read that and

816
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: I thought it is fascinating. I used to live in Oregon,

817
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: very liberal, and gas stations you can't pump your own gas.

818
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: And Oregon's theory is it keeps thousands of people employed

819
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: in the state of Oregon and it rains a lot.

820
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: So I kind of like somebody pumping my gas, to

821
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: be honest with you. And by the way, gas.

822
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: Stations are kind of dirty. You know, you're touching stuff.

823
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: So it's like I always kind of thought it was cool.

824
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: He talked to the guy or gal and it's like

825
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: that's good. So where would you fall on this? It

826
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: absolutely will create job loss. I mean, there's no question

827
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: uber drivers are in big trouble in California because I'm

828
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: telling you where I live, Way Moa cars are everywhere, Dannie,

829
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: and I prefer them. Nothing against the driver, but no driver.

830
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

831
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, nobody has stale candy. Nobody wants

832
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: to ask me about the eagles. I get in the car,

833
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: it gets there fast, and I'm.

834
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 3: A way mo guy.

835
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

836
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: Then tens of thousands of people could lose their jobs.

837
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: As somebody you acknowledge your center left. What do you

838
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: do if you're a Democrat in California. So my take

839
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: is I'm pro technology and nobody has a right to

840
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: a job. I grew up in a fishing village, and

841
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: because the state of Washington limited salmon distribution or the

842
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: number of salmon you could catch, salmon fisherman lost work.

843
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: And my stepdad, who was a very much kind of

844
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: a man of nature and a man of earth and

845
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: a fisherman, and I used to argue with him, I'm

846
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: going into broadcasting.

847
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: If radio die tomorrow, I don't have a right to

848
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: a job.

849
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: And so it was like, you know, just because you're

850
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: a fisherman at twenty eight doesn't mean you want at

851
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: forty eight. Like states have legislation they protect our earth.

852
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: So I'm for Waymo, which means I'm I have a

853
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: four job loss.

854
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 3: Where do you land?

855
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one, I think in I am

856
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: pro innovation and I am and like, there's a lot

857
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: of problems with capitalism, but it might be it's the

858
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: best we got, like that of a play on that

859
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: the old you know, democracy is the worst form of

860
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: government except for all the other ones, you know, and

861
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: so like, are there problems with it? Yes, are there

862
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: unintended consequences? Absolutely, But I don't think you want to

863
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: be in the business of stifling innovation because what's the

864
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: next thing that that would Like I'd be thrilled if

865
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: there was some level of innovation that made pediatric cancer

866
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: doctors have to go extinct because we had solved it,

867
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, And so like it's the type of thing

868
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: where like just in general, innovation is good, Like the

869
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: easy pass put tollbooth workers out of business. But it's

870
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: objectively better. We don't have to stop, we don't have

871
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: to keep coins in our car. We can just keep

872
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: going on our drive. But it put people out of

873
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: business for a better way of life. So I've never

874
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: been in a driverless car before, so I'm glad that

875
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the test case for it. So like,

876
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that you're doing it and it's

877
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: going well. But like I think that type off if

878
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: they can do it, and they clearly can, and I

879
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm aware of Waimo, and I'm aware of the fact

880
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: that this is becoming more and more popular. Like, it's

881
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: just gonna lead to less auto crashes. It's gonna lead

882
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: to people being safer, it's gonna lead a few it's

883
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: gonna lead to fewer deaths. Oh right.

884
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 2: Question, Also, there are safety concerns with women and male

885
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: Uber drivers. I mean, that's nothing against Tuber. There have

886
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: been lots of lawsuits. You can go back and look

887
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: at the history of Uber, right, I've been lots of lawsuits.

888
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: You eliminate that eliminate. I mean, there's no question the

889
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: number of card desks will plummet in America.

890
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: So like that, to me, obvious negative is the job loss,

891
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: but there are so many also positives that come with

892
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: it that that one, to me is not terribly difficult

893
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, I'm fine with it. Fine, I'm

894
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: fine with it. And in general, again like I there's

895
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: this there's a story arc in The Wire, The Wired.

896
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: To me, he's the greatest television show ever And that

897
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: show came out twenty years ago, twenty plus years ago

898
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: about like the the dock workers and how they could

899
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: unload and offload ships like cargo ships, big containers that

900
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: weigh you know, thousands of tons and all that stuff.

901
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: And there were the Stevendors were like, that's gonna put

902
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: us out of jobs. And they're like, yeah, but you're

903
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: not gonna die on the job. And then the stevend

904
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: Door's like, but I'd rather get injured on the job

905
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: and have a job. But that's not that's not the point.

906
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: The guy who developed the technology to offload the cargo

907
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: ship faster, more efficiently, no stealing, no injuries, that guy

908
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: created that company to do it. That was innovation, it

909
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: was progress, moving it forward. And so it sucks and

910
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: by the way, you mentioned the radio thing. I'm thirty.

911
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: I turned thirty nine in two weeks. I have no

912
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: idea what the next twenty years of media is going

913
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: to look like, and like what my career in this industry,

914
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: cable television, cord cutting, podcasting. It keeps evolving. We have

915
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: to keep evolving in our field. A lot of people

916
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: have to keep evolving in theirs. So it doesn't I

917
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: feel bad for the individual who would lose their job

918
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: enough to make me anti innovation and progress.

919
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I did local TV sportes that kind

920
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: of dried up.

921
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: That's a good example. That was a job that in Chicago.

922
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: Using million dollars a year twenty years ago.

923
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: Correct, correct, that's exactly that. That was a seven figure

924
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: job into the first part of the twenty first century.

925
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: Like Mark jing Greco, friend of mine in Chicago, legend

926
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: covered with the bulls, dynasties and all that, he was

927
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: still making north of a million dollars into the two thousands. Now,

928
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: the people that have that job low six figures and

929
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: nobody watches. You know, it's just a it's just a

930
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: completely different ecosystem. And that's just the that's the way

931
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: of the world. So are you are you? You're totally

932
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: Have you ever had an issue? By the way drivers cam? Yeah,

933
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: the vast majority of people here have never been in

934
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: a driver listening to this has never been in a

935
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: driverless car.

936
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been in three.

937
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: They're fantastic, and I'm not I'm not anti Uber. I've

938
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: spent a lot of money on Uber, but there is

939
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: a gap in Uber drivers and if you go, if

940
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: you go the lower levels of Uber. I had an

941
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: Uber driver because I had a very short drive recently

942
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: in Chicago. He pulled up to my street and stopped

943
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: in the middle of the street, didn't pull into my driveway.

944
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: There were thirty cars as I walked on the road

945
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: to get in and like bowed my head and apologized

946
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean yeah. And it was the cheapest

947
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: level of it because it was like a six minute

948
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: drive to the train station. So like weaimo, everybody's good.

949
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: They're all the exact same. There's no good, bad smelly.

950
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I've gotten into Uber cars before and the

951
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: music's loud and it smells like hygiene issues. It's like

952
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: it's rare, but it happens. Yeah, And there's no question

953
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: I So I in Chicago. I take an Uber every

954
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: day about a seven to ten minute drive from where

955
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: I work to otc Ogilvy train station. Yep, the gap

956
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: incompetency is startling. Yeah, seven to eight minutes for ten

957
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: to fifth Now, mind at twelve, I've had twenty three times?

958
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: Now can I can I make a small suggestion to

959
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: you before Weymo gets to Chicago. You're a pretty successful guy, Colin.

960
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: You can go Uber black. You can? You know, you

961
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: know you don't have to. You don't have to be

962
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: in the Uber X to save your nine bucks and

963
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: get in the back of someone's Corolla like you can.

964
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: You can. You could pay up for your Uber black

965
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: and get in a suburban buddy.

966
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: You don't know, Anne, somebody in our family has to

967
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: save money.

968
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: Fair enough, you know. Nick. Nick and I went to

969
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: You'll like this, Nick, and you can cut it if

970
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: you want. But Nick and I went to the US

971
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: Open and he and getting out of there with cars

972
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: is a disaster. And I live in Westchester, which is

973
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: suburban New York, and Nick lives in Harlem. So we

974
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: were going to go from US Open to Harlem to

975
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: the suburb that I live in. So two stops and

976
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: Nick got like an Uber Black because there was just

977
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: saved us, you know, thirty plus minutes of like finding

978
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: the car, just because leading the us of them. And

979
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: he's like, it was three hundred bucks for the car,

980
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: spensive car, and he's like, you owe me. He's like,

981
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: you know what, he has the ticket. It's very generous,

982
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, let's split the car. He's like,

983
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: you only one hundred and fifty bucks with the car,

984
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: and I had one hundred and thirty in cash on me,

985
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: and I gave him the one thirty and said if

986
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: I would have gotten the car, I would have gotten

987
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: Uber X. He's like sometimes like, so take your one thirty.

988
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: He was like all right, and so I am. I

989
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: am the you in this analogy, but I'm hoping that

990
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: if I'm ever at your level, I will be the

991
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: Nick and the analogy and just pay for the Uber Black.

992
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 3: By the way, it doesn't really change. It doesn't matter.

993
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

994
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: My wife, my wife to this day will be like,

995
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: you have six pair of shoes. I know what you make,

996
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I can live on four. Six is

997
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: really pushing it. That's two jogging shoes, Like, come on,

998
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: how many brown shoes do you need?

999
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 3: One's the answer?

1000
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: Ones? What is the end? Yeah, I think I've had

1001
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: I've wont like eleven pairs of jeans in my life.

1002
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: I wore I wore a pair of pants today and

1003
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: I've had these easily a decade. They're gray, and I

1004
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: always argue they go with everything and they go with

1005
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: nothing simultaneously. And I had to do a shoot today

1006
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, could you guys not put these on

1007
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: camera for a Fox Sunday shoot? And They're like, yeah,

1008
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: the way the shot works, they're gonna be on camera.

1009
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: And I'm like, does AI change? Like can we use

1010
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: that thing on these pants? So I wear stuff to

1011
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: work that I'm embarrassed to put on camera, and I'm

1012
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: in a weird way, I'm really proud of it.

1013
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. I mean, you know Superman wore the

1014
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: same thing every day. Steve Jobs wore the same thing

1015
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: every day?

1016
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 3: Or is that in the video guy?

1017
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. The Nvidia guy wears the same thing

1018
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: every day. We're in a good company. We're in good company.

1019
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: Danny Parkins, good talking to anybody.

1020
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Oh, Colin, thank you. The volume