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Hello there, Welcome to 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.320 the Thursday edition of the Chuck Toodcast. Has been a 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:04.640 pretty busy It obviously started with the scary situation at 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.680 the White House Correspondent's dinner. There's been a little bit 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.160 of focus on that. But hello, we're still in this 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.280 war pause if you will, with Iran with really no 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.280 end in sight, and I want to talk a little 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:22.680 bit about the pretty useless briefing that we got from 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:27.440 Pete hag Seth with his testimony before the House. Perhaps 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.400 the Senate side might be better at this, but you 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.080 know what, It's pretty clear Pete Haggseth isn't interested in 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.520 being a public servant and doing the things that you 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.560 would expect taxpayer funded people to do and explain themselves. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.240 He is basically got internet brain, right, he has got 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.880 his brain is rotting from too much time on the internet. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.919 War is way too much about his woke ideology, woke 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:55.040 write ideology, whatever. It is, constantly not thinking about actually 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.040 doing what would be in the best interest of the administration, 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.360 which is actually make a coherent case for why this 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.040 war is justified. Because he didn't do a very good 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.640 job of that, and he does a terrible job at 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.640 trying to pick political fights he thinks he's doing. I 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:14.160 think he thinks he's being helpful to the president. I 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:18.160 don't think it's doing what he thinks it's doing. But 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.760 the big news politically, we got that new map from Florida, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.840 and I was talking about it yesterday and it was 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.480 right in the middle of when I was taping that. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.160 We got the Komi News and I'll have a little 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.880 bit more on that. But the big news is this 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.800 Supreme Court ruling on the Voting Rights Act, and incredible narrowing. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.200 Some would call it gutting, depending on your point of 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.040 view on this, but an incredible narrowing of the Voting 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:46.560 Rights Act which essentially eliminates it from usage in the South. Right, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.360 the initial reason for the Voting Rights Act was for 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:55.520 the systemic way that Southern states in particular disenfranchised black voters, 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:01.640 and the point of creating these majority minority districts or 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.440 plurality minority districts, particularly in the South was essentially right 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.600 a century's long wrong on this stuff, and it was 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.600 about representation, making sure that there was a seat at 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.000 the table when over for over a century there was 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.760 a denial of a seat at the table. And I 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.200 want to tackle this in two different ways. Okay, one 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.640 is the near term politics and what does this mean 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.360 for the maps? What does this mean for campaign twenty 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.520 twenty six and really more campaign twenty twenty eight and 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.840 possibly the redistricting of twenty thirty. But I also want 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.440 to do something, and you're going to some of you 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.560 may already know where I'm going to add, but I'm 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.680 gonna head onto a hobby horse of a solution that 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.800 I think now hopefully people will see, makes a heck 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.320 of a lot more sense than when I was on 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.279 this hobby horse about a year ago where I even 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:57.360 did a ted talk about it. But first let's talk 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:02.240 about the near term decision. What does it mean? In theory, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.960 you may see a handful of states try to redistrict 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:10.039 in the South where suddenly the majority minority districts in 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.719 say Mississippi, Benny Thompson's district could be at risk. You've 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.839 got the case was about Louisiana, so there'll be a 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.360 new Louisiana map. It's likely you will go from two 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:26.400 majority African American districts down to one. For what it's worth, Alabama, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.200 the governor has already said no to any sort of 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.559 special session, and it's my understanding the court actually pretty 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:36.880 much said they can't do anything until twenty thirty. So 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.920 you know that the state courts that is in Alabama, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.479 so they're not going to touch in twenty thirty. We 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.000 already had the new Florida remap was anticipating this, which 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:51.039 is why the Darren Soto District, which is mostly a 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:55.400 Puerto Rican district in central Florida, basically got carved up, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:01.120 and it was arguably in anticipation of this. Isn't at 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:06.440 this point another district in Florida that somehow this court 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:11.560 ruling would have any influence on. There's certainly the possibility 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:16.360 in South Carolina. There's certainly the possibility in Tennessee. In fact, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:21.920 it is worth I would point you to the down ballot. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.760 It is the down ballot is a publication and a 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:30.080 substack that is very much has been on top of this, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:36.360 and they did a terrific analysis state by state of 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.480 what could happen, what would be at risk. I just 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.239 you know, rather than me reading to you his work, 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.599 I was done by David Near and Stephen Wolf. You 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.800 should subscribe to them. I do. I don't want to 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.279 take away subscription dollars for them, but they go through it. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.320 But like I said, the top line is Alabama's going 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.320 to be untouched till twenty thirty. Florida has already been done. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.160 Georgia if they, I doubt there's an attempt at doing it. 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.320 And we're going to get into why. I think even 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.400 if they tried to do something in the Georgia legislature, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:13.360 it would probably implode on them and only elect create 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.600 more potential democratic seats. And I'm going to give you 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.800 an example of that in a minute I told you 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:22.240 about Louisiana. That's obviously this core case was about Louisiana, Mississippi, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.680 South Carolina, Tennessee, and potentially in Texas. But again, they've 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.880 already done their big remap, So let's see what this 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:34.480 all looks like. I think it's a it's not the 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.440 way they drew their map. They're anticipating winning over as 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.840 many Latino votes on the Republican side of the als 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.400 Donald Trump won in twenty twenty four and to a 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.440 lesser extent in twenty twenty two, and I think there's 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:48.960 some questions about whether that holds up on that front. 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.480 But I want to take you back and sort of 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.840 what does this mean, because look, I think we have 0:07:54.880 --> 0:08:00.560 a serious issue about representation of this country in our Congress, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.000 and I'm going to get to that because I think 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.840 there is a better solution than trying to redo the 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.720 Voting Rights Act, trying to come up with special rules 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.440 and all of this stuff. There is a cleaner, better 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.640 way to do this. But let's talk about the near 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.640 term political impact and when it takes you back to 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:23.080 nineteen ninety it was the nineteen ninety one reapportionment map, 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:27.720 where essentially it was the Bush forty one Justice Department 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.360 working with the Congressional Black Caucus, particularly in the southern redraws, 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:36.080 where in conjunction with the Voting Rights Act, that was 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:41.360 that they needed to have and they got majority increase 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.800 representation in Congress of African Americans. And essentially the Bush 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.800 Justice Department saw it that they had a quote win 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.640 win situation with Black Democrats. They would draw some majority 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.520 Black districts in the South, and Republicans would suddenly have 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.840 more districts that they could win because essentially they took 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.720 a chunk of Democratic voters and put them all into 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.600 compact districts. I'm going to tell you the story about 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:15.680 Georgia in nineteen ninety before this reapportionment began in Georgia 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:20.640 four years later. By nineteen ninety four, so at the 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.120 start of the nineteen ninety decade, Newt Gingridge was the 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.960 only Republican in Georgia's ten member congressional delegation. At the time, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.400 it was a nine one advantage Democrats owned the state. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:38.280 After the nineteen ninety one reapportionment that created essentially the 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.120 maximum African American districts you could create in Georgia, that 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.319 was driven by the voting by the previous interpretation of 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.800 the Voting Rights Act the second and the eleventh Congressional 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.120 district districts because they increased by one, they went from 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.520 ten to one. Georgia was a growing state, became majority 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.480 African American for the first time in ninety two, and 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:03.880 the delegation went from nine to one to nine Democrats 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.120 to one Republican for ninety two they win. This was 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:12.720 an election that Democrats won. Nationally, Bill Clinton wins, Democrats 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.480 lose some seats in Georgia, their advantage goes from seven 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.040 Democrats to four Republicans, and then two years later, after 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:24.040 the ninety four tsunami for Republicans, it essentially flips to 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:29.040 seven Republicans and four Democrats with three African American majority 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.120 African American districts and one white Democrat. So essentially, in 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.080 four years, Democrats went from nine to ten to four 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.400 of an eleven. And basically it was because they created 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:47.840 these maximum a very much large African American majority districts, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.400 concentrating black voters in a smaller number of districts. Now, 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.880 the good news for African Americans is an increased representation 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.600 in the US Congress, there were more Black Democrats. What 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.720 it did for the party though, is it actually made 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.640 it harder for them to elect more Democratic members of Congress. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.360 So what does that mean now? So this is why 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.360 these this remap is not going to be as clean 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.640 as people think. It isn't going to be automated automatic 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.960 pickups in order to draw these new districts. If they're 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.400 going to no longer have majority African American districts, well 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.319 they're going to be. Then you're gonna have African American 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.640 voters who are vote sort of eight times out of 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.560 ten more likely to vote Democratic than Republican. You're something 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.680 going to have a whole bunch more swing districts. Right. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.640 We sort of saw this already, and we're getting this 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.040 example in Florida with the with the Soco district. In 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.320 order for them to essentially eliminate that district, they spread 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.680 out Democrats into a whole bunch of other central Florida districts. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.040 And it's in theory taken a lot of likely Republican 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.559 districts and turn them into quote lean Republican district Well, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.800 guess what in a waveyear like we're anticipating here in 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.680 this midterm election with the party out of power sort 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.000 of seeing a surgeon turnout, the party in power seeing 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:11.760 a depression in turnout all of these Any sort of 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.760 remap that does this sort of spreading out of Democratic 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.719 voters and trying to put them in Republican seats is 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.880 suddenly going to dilute these maps. And what it, in theory, 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.200 could end up doing is creating more swing districts throughout 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:29.000 the South, which is exactly what we had in the eighties, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.360 and then in pre nineteen ninety and the nineteen ninety 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.400 one reapportionment between the Bush Jets Department and the Congressional 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:41.120 Black Caucus, we did not have nearly the number of 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.560 swing districts in Southern states in the old sort of 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:50.040 Confederate states. So it is a So this is there 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:55.760 is a lot of anxiety on the left about this decision, 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.520 and when it comes to representation. I absolutely understand why 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.640 there's so much anxiety about this because in some ways 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.560 it's claiming that we've somehow all of the wrongs that 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.360 took place all the way through nineteen sixty five is suddenly, oh, 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.559 they're all gone. Well, we know they're not all gone, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:16.120 and so taking away. This guardrail on representation in the 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:20.480 South is quite risky. But just for the political outcome, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.360 if you're looking for D versus R on this, this 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:29.480 is not an automatic I mean, yes, it gives a 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:33.600 Republican's an opportunity to redraw their maps in the South, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.959 and so there'll be certainly less court pushback on certain things. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.640 Although I still think the Florida map could get some 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.880 pushback based on what's in their state constitution when they 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:49.840 passed a fair districts referendum a few years back. But 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.080 it's not clear to me that this is going to 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:58.600 be an automatic net gain for Republicans. If you get 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.200 rid of packed part of and districts, and these districts 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.400 get unpacked, you are essentially going to create more swing areas. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.240 Now what you may see is you may see some more. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:12.280 You may see some reciently charged democratic primaries in some 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.079 of these districts where you will have a large chunk 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:21.920 of African American voters, another chunk of Democratic voters of 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.960 either white Democratic voters, Latino, et cetera. So you might 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.280 see more. You know that there certainly will be more 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.160 a diverse set of candidates perhaps running in primaries. How 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.840 identity politics works in that is going to probably depend 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.680 on the candidate's running and the issue sets of that day. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.320 But when you're just looking at it as far as 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.760 Democrats versus Republicans, it's not clear to me, And if anything, 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.760 it could be a wash, if not a potential in 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.960 a waveyear of an advantage for the out party, which 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.040 in this year is this. But again, how many districts 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.600 are we really going to see get changed this year 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.120 this cycle versus those that will happen for twenty twenty eight, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.920 and then of course we have the actual reapportionment going 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.480 in twenty thirty, so that's the near term political impact. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.160 You know, we've already seen, like I said, we've already 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.640 seen Florida's already did their redraw that would have this 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.360 is the redraw they would have done. They've almost assumed 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.120 that the court ruling was going to be what it was, 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.560 with really the darren Sodo district being the one that 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.680 falls under the Voting Rights Act on this one, Now, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.840 let's talk about what is a better perhaps a better 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.680 thing to fight for. Now. You know that one of 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:43.240 the arcane sort of very political sciencing nerdy things that's 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:48.680 out there is this idea of uncapping the House and 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.840 what does that mean. Well, in nineteen thirty, after a dispute, 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.520 and I've gone some of you have heard me on 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:59.160 this rant before, but in you know, the House of 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.560 Representatives used to expand with the population of the country, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.600 the number that we would have in the House. Not 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:10.400 just you don't just decide how you reapportion the foreign 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.720 and thirty five congressional districts among the fifty states, of 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.680 course in nineteen thirty it was among forty eight states, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.760 but also whether the population size has increased enough that 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.680 it's time to expand the actual House of Representatives itself. 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:27.040 Pretty much every decade before nineteen twenty, every single decade, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.160 after every census, we pretty much we expanded the House, 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.920 and then we stopped doing it. Now, in nineteen twenty, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.560 you'll be shocked to know what. You know, there was 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.880 a big impass and both parties were fighting over this, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.200 and they couldn't agree on how many seats to add 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.720 to the House and which states were going to get them, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.320 and there was a big fight, and eventually they got 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.840 a compromise of let's just lock it down, let's not 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.760 expand the size of the House. Anymore anyway, they were 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.160 worried it was getting too big, too unruly, et cetera. 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.760 And so we've back in nineteen thirty we locked in 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.600 four hundred and thirty five district and it was one 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.800 per three hundred and fifty thousand, you know, basically one 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.240 congressional district for three hundred and fifty thousand people. Well 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.920 we're now at basically one per eight hundred thousand. And 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.280 you see, eight hundred thousand is the size of major cities. Right, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.000 there's only like eleven cities in America that have a 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.840 population greater than that, and we now have we have 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.480 four and thirty five that are just massive, and so 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:31.719 that's why we have so much factional representation. So, you know, 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.080 I understand the frustration about what we saw today, what 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.320 we saw in the Supreme Court, But if you're looking 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.440 to get a seat at the table, then you should 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:46.080 fight to expand the size of the table. Right, we 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.840 have not talked about expanding the size of the table. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.399 The table being here the House. Now, what was founder's intent. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.879 Founders intent was the House of Representatives to grow with 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.000 the country number one and number two be the most 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:04.399 most representative of the people, Right, now, the House of 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:09.680 Representatives is not representative of the people. Each congressional district 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.800 essentially is dominated by a faction. It could be a 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.760 faction on the right or a faction on the left. Right, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:19.159 it's and it is sometimes a faction within that party 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:24.120 that is able to dominate an entire congressional district. And 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.680 so look, I know some people are out there going, 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.800 you know, so take Louisiana and Louisianas with thirty percent 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.840 African American population, if they suddenly have no African American 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.120 representation or one African American, is that truly fair? If 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.840 a third, right, third of the congressional districts are not 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:42.960 you know, right now they are, right, it's about a 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:44.919 third of the population. Third of the congressional district two 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:50.679 out of six is majority and representative by African Americans. Now, 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.720 another way to do this you could always have multi 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.200 member districts, right, or this idea that you know, Okay, 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.960 the state of Louisiana has six and you you know, 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.560 the top six people get elected to those districts. And 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:05.360 you would think over time that if there's various constituency 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.240 groups or identity groups want to make sure they have representation. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.159 As long as they finish in the top six, you 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.280 could have that. Now again, I don't think we're moving 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:20.639 to sort of that sort of proportional representation or the 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:24.480 idea of multi member districts. 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Point 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.600 oh three percent of population is essentially one per eight hundred, 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:02.639 eight hundred thousand. But this by putting it in the constitution. 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:07.960 In theory, this could fluctuate. Right, if we shrink our 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.320 population shrinks over time, then you know we might have 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.720 you might actually shrink the House of Representatives. So in 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.359 this case, it would pretty close to double the size 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.320 of the House. But here's what you would have. You're 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.520 essentially making the table bigger, which means you're going to 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:28.160 have a more diverse set of representatives when Congress. You're 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.240 going to have a more diverse set of constituencies represented 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.280 in Congress. It's not going to just be by identity 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.720 group either. You're going to have the opportunity. First of all, 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.760 you have districts that are more compact number one, So 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.600 they truly will be geographic communities of interest, which matters 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:50.320 a lot. You're likely to have less issues, with less 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.440 need to Jerrymander. I'm not saying Jerrymander wouldn't happen. That's 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:54.800 always going to be there. As long as you give 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.359 the states the right to draw the districts, there's going 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:02.160 to be political influence on how that's done. But when 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.199 you're down, when you're when you're doing one per three 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:09.440 hundred and fifty thousand, it's just it's just less necessary. 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.520 Oh by the way, so, oh, by the way, you 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.760 would fix the electoral college conundrum that we've been in 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:20.040 right as our population has grown. But the numerator when 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.280 it comes to the electoral college it's been sitting at 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:26.119 five point thirty eight forever. Well, if you increase the 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.840 size of the House, you increase the number of electoral votes, 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:35.119 and then you'll you're going to write size the electoral college, 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:38.479 and so the likelihood of having a split national popular 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.440 vote winner and electoral college winter being different. You you 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.280 sort of shrink that from a you know, ten to 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.000 fifteen percent chance down to a zero to one to 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.560 you know, zero point five to one point five percent chance. 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:54.399 So it it creates fairness across the board. It's small 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.919 d democratic. And here's the other thing to me, this 0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.320 is something that a lot of groups on both sides 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.760 of the AUL should be arguing for. Right now, the 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:06.600 large states are underrepresented in the House of Representatives. They're 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:11.200 also underrepresented in the Senate. Right right, two senators from 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.159 Texas have the same amount of power as two senators 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:18.679 from Wyoming. If, by the way, if you do this 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.879 one para one per three or fifty thousand, you might 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:27.480 not even add one new seat in Wyoming. Wyoming might 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.119