WEBVTT - HR2: Positional Grades 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.440 At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.360 Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:15.040 Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio, and. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.360 We are back. I am Dale Lolly, He's the Matt 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.080 Williamson and it is timed Matt to put together our 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.560 DFS lineup with the captain's share. It's a little different 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:25.840 than just building the lineup here. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.520 There's gonna be a challenge that it is. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.120 And again just to let everybody know how the rules 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:32.560 work on this if you're not familiar with it. You 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.159 pick a captain. He is worth one excuse me, one 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.240 and a half points, but he's also one and a 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.040 half times more expensive than the other guys. And then 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.640 you have your five flex spots that can be any 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.400 position including the defense. 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.360 Quarterbacks or yeah, you know, two defenses, whatever. But it's 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:50.080 only one game. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:55.960 Yeah, so looking at the captain's money sake, one is 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:00.840 eighteen thousand dollars. Jalen Hurts is fifty teen thousand, six 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:06.960 hundred dollars, Patrick Mahomes fifteen thousand, AJ Brown fourteen to four, 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:11.399 Travis Kelce is thirteen to five, Xavier Worthiest twelve thousand. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.360 Kind of surprise. He's the next highest guy there. DeVonta 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.400 Smith is eleven to one, Kareem Hunt ninety six hundred. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.760 Then you get to their all the backup quarterbacks. We'll 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.000 skip over there. Those Dallas Goddard eighty seven hundred, Terrible 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:32.360 Hollywood Brown eighty one hundred, Isaiah Pacheco seventy eight hundred, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:38.600 Harrison Butker seventy five hundred, Jake Elliott seventy two hundred, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:43.320 DeAndre Hopkins sixty six hundred, the Eagles defense sixty three hundred, 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.319 the Chiefs defense six thousand. Then you got Kenneth game 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.800 Well at fifty one hundred, Noah Gray at forty two hundred, 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:56.280 will Shipley thirty six hundred, Juju Smith Schuster three thousand, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.760 Johan Dotson twenty four hundred, samaj p Ryan eighteen hundred 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.440 getting into cash. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:07.320 Yeah, yeah, those guys are Cabins. Yeah. We haven't talked 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.519 about Super Bowl at all on or off the air. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.120 My initial my thoughts as it stands today is I'm 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.760 leaning towards the under I think there are two really 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:22.399 good defensive coordinators, and there are some d line mismatches 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:27.560 favoring the defenses. I agree, and I also think that 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.680 Kansas City is not a big play offense, and I 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.359 think Philly is gonna try to run the ball a lot, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:34.720 so there might not be a ton of. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.320 Plays where they keep the scoring down. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:42.200 Yeah yeah, yeah. That being said, I don't think the 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.680 Chiefs run past percentage is going to be very run 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.520 heavy at all. I mean, it's gonna be a controlled 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.720 passing game. But I bet my Homes has a lot 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.880 of attempts. Maybe that's gonna bet somebody wants to play 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.320 is over on the completions or attempts because they don't 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.280 throw the ball on the field at all. But I 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.520 think they're gonna keep it in his hands and not 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:06.320 run at Jalen Carter over and over and over. Some 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.440 of the names. I kind of like there are Mahomes 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.320 in some capacity to be on this team. You know, 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.359 I was just talking captains, and you're right. I know 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:19.840 DeVonta Smith, I think has McDuffie's been an outside guy 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:27.280 and Smith lines in the slot a lot. If they're losing, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.560 they might throw more than they want. I thought he 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.240 was a little cheaper than he should have been when 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:31.880 he listed him. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:33.560 The guy that stands out to me in that regard 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:34.160 is Goddard. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:35.520 I thought the same thing. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.080 Eighty seven and the Chiefs are twenty seventh against opposing 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:39.720 tight ends. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.600 Okay, that's the one. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.960 Area here where neither were the two defenses. The one 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.840 area where they struggle at is there. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.360 And he's battled injuries. I think the last two weeks 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.040 off will go a long way with him. Just late 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.560 in the year, he's had some things. I think he's 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.160 a much better player than people realize too. You know, like, 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.000 wouldn't shock me if he's like a top three fantasy 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:02.960 tight end one year. You know, they just don't throw 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.320 the ball enough. I'm cool with that. I mean, it's 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:06.040 kind of the same. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.080 Logical saving some money there. He's eighty he's only eighty 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.360 seven hundred putting the captain, sure, and maybe that allows 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.119 us to pay up and get you know, the two 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.679 quarterbacks and things of that nature. Or so looking here 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.119 at real quickly. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.080 One other note, I just think of the of that's 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:25.440 important for this game is really over the last six 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.279 weeks or so, the Eagles have said, we only want 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.400 to be a nickel. The Jene's too good. We're not 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:35.280 taking them off the field. And I'm just wondering does 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.280 reed counter that with two tight ends? More two or 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.400 even three tight ends, and Kelsey's gonna be expensive. But 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:47.120 even if you do that, is that enough Gene then 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.560 covering Kelsey things of that night, which he may be 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.880 able to do. Yeah, but that's kind of a new 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.919 development for the Eagles, is we do not want to 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.200 leave our Nickel package And what's really going to do 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.200 to count that? 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.320 Because de Jine's gonna cover somebody there if you've only 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.200 got two receivers on the field, right. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:05.400 And I don't think they're gonna run a ton. I 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.560 don't think they're gonna come out with extra o lineman 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.680 and you know, Gouger Nickel pack. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.080 Does that then make us look at Noah Gray a 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:12.480 little hard? 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.320 I would say, I think Gray would be a cheap 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.440 I'm gonna put him in the Captain's chair. No, I'm 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.279 a sick muaying on that pick. But that's where I 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.719 was going with it, is no Gray could be on 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.360 you know our regular lineup here. 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.760 Yeah, So Barkley is twelve thousand, Herts is ten to four, 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.840 Mahomes is ten thousand, aj Brown is ninety six hundred, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.840 Travis Kelsey is nine thousand, Xavier Worthy is eight thousand. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.880 That's actually under budget. Okay, he's been really productive lately, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.520 but I have my doubts there. Devonte Smith is seventy 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.080 four hundred. 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.920 I like that. Yeah, I like Mahomes and Kelsey too. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:55.680 Kareem Hunt sixty four hundred, Hollywood Brown is fifty four hundred, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.679 but Checko is fifty two hundred, Butker is five thousand, 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:04.120 Elliott is forty eight hundred, Hopkins is forty four hundred. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.640 The Egans has been fighting a knee forever too. I 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.239 wonder if two weeks off for the old man gives 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:11.560 him a little more usage. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.160 You know, the Eagles defense is forty two hundred, the 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.360 Chiefs defense is four thousand, and then Kenneth Gamewo is 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:18.200 thirty four hundred. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:20.440 I think just like either defense either. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.240 And the thing about Game Wall is he's out there 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.280 a lot on third down situations. He's also out there 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.120 a lot. If they have a long sustained drive where 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.440 Saquan has like they started their they started their own twenty, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.280 and Saquon carries the ball like eight times on a 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.400 on a twelve play drive, they get to the opposing twenty, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:40.920 and all of a sudden, he taps out and game 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:42.839 Wall's in there, and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.599 know this because I had Sau on my fantasy team 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:46.560 and I'm watching their games. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.320 I'm like, what they're inside the twenty? Why is game 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.240 woe in there? I mean, what's amazing? As you know, 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.560 if you watched every snap like that, Barkley left a 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.640 lot of fantasy points on the table. I mean a 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:58.680 lot of carries on, you know, from the one or 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.880 in drop down at the one. That's an unbelievable year. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.400 I don't know if he's going to be worth the 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.919 money because I think he's not a lot of times 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.320 if he doesn't break off the long one and they 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:13.280 don't allow score, right, right, right, So who do we 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.160 spend money on. I kind of like the Mahomes Kelsey connection. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.640 I like that. I also like how I'd like to 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:19.720 have both quarterbacks. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.120 I don't object to that because I mean, if I 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.040 were going to play a prop in this game, Jalen 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.720 Hurts anytime touchdown would be pretty and I'm sure I 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:30.520 haven't even looked at the. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:31.520 Odds on any of that stuff. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.640 Probably doesn't pay well, probably doesn't care because he's expected 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:39.000 to score a touchdown. And he does a lot. Yeah, well, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.000 what's it look like we put both quarterbacks and Kelsey. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.960 In, all right, so that would be and then Kelsey 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.040 all right, so we would be at we'd have fifty 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.400 nine to fifty to spend on our last two spots, 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:50.680 fifty nine to fifty each each. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.000 So what's like a Gray or a Gain. 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:57.760 Well, so looking here at that, if we looking, guys 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:04.240 under under that price are Hollywood Brown, but Checko, both kickers, Hopkins, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.520 both defenses, Game Well, and Gray. Okay, if we went 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.560 if we went for a guy like Gray or game. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:16.440 Well, then we could maybe get like Davanta Smith, right, okay, 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.520 because we did go pretty cheap in the Caps. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.840 Gray is twenty eight hundred, game Woll was thirty four hundred. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.520 If we put the Vauanta Smith in, okay, maybe that 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:26.960 made a list, made an eliminate things. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.960 He's seventy four hundred. That leaves us with forty five hundred. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.679 That would get us Hopkins. You kind of think Hopkins old. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:34.880 I like old men in the Super Bowl. 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:39.520 Either defense, I'd say, defenses, kickers, Game well, Gray, Hopkins. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.640 Those were the cheap things I kind of was attracted to. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.160 So if we went with Hopkins, we'd have one hundred 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:46.960 dollars left over. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.079 I think pass protection would be a real problem for 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.880 the Chiefs. He they lost sacks, but I could see 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.520 sacks he gets if he's getting rid of the ball quickly. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.600 I think it would be a lot of pass attempts. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.160 But I think the ball come out quick. 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:06.160 That would be Goddard in the captain's chair, Hurts, Mahomes, Kelsey, 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.000 Devonte Smith, DeAndre Hopkins. We got all the old guys 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:14.319 in the life men, but we only have one hundred 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:15.000 dollars left over. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.199 Yeah, is Hopkins your favorite of the cheap ones? Uh? 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:19.680 So you had Hopkins. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.240 If we take him back out of guys in that neighborhood, you. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:27.040 Had Hopkins, the Eagles defense, the Chiefs defense, gain Well, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.439 Gray Smith, Schuster another old guy. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:36.800 He's only two thousand. Dotson doesn't do much to know. Yeah, 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:43.960 I would say a defense or Hopkins. Yeah, the problem 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.320 is picking which defense. Not not much I was of thinking, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.559 because Hurts will take sacks too, and they'll blitz a 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.240 lot the blitz and yeah, Chris Jones will find some 0:09:53.280 --> 0:10:00.280 spots that he likes. It'll be the interior, he said, 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.360 go Hopkins. He could get a zero though, because they 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.040 aren't going to get a zero. He could get a zero, 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.080 but he could also score a touchdown. Yeah, yeah, Like, 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:08.880 do we think there's gonna be a defensive like he 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.040 could have? He has a higher ceiling. Yeah, I mean 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.640 unless there's a dec unless there's a defensive score, but 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.199 you don't count on that. Yeah, And there's both good defenses. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.800 But I don't think any of these offenses are haphazard 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:23.360 with the football. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.880 I mean, I like the other guys. I like to 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.280 build here, and you know, unless you want to put 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:28.679 somebody else in the can, you want to put try 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.800 Deavonte Smith in the captain share and see what that 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.520 looks like. We could if you want see if that 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:34.360 if that changes. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.199 I like the Goddard call though, So. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.920 If we put DeVante Smith, he's not that much more expensive, 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:40.800 in the captain's chair. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.640 And then put Goddard in at the DeVante Smith spot. 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.760 Yeah yeah, so I like to still have Goddard on 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.199 the team. That would be Devonte Smith. He's only eleven 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:53.400 to one, and then we go with Goddard. That means 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.959 we can upgrade from Hopkins, right, Yeah, quick question for you, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.679 or pretend we might have to downgrade find Goddard here first? 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.760 Oh yeah, we spent more on the captain Yeah right, 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:04.679 did got it? 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.680 Go oh there, he is fifty eight hundred, so he's not. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.280 So then we only have thirty seven hundred to spend 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.600 on our last spot. Is that would be game woll Or? Noah, Gray, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.440 I get it. Do we think we gained a lot 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.240 from do we think? The question is? Do you think 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.840 Smith is going to score more points? Way more points 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:23.280 than God? 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.400 That's, as I said, to be gain enough the point 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:27.200 in a half? It there? 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:31.280 Yeah, you know, let's say he scores six more points 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.200 in the captain's chair than Goddard would. Is that going 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.160 to be enough to overcome having to play one of 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:37.120 these other guys? 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.400 I think I like the original build with Hopkins. 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.640 I think I did too. Yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:42.560 put Goddard back in. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.920 I guess it's irrelevant now. But my question for you 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.520 that I should know the answer to is why is 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.520 Hunt noticeably more than Pacheco? 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.679 He's gotten way more carres? Has it been that heavy 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.360 he's been pretty substantial? 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.280 Or has it been when they're winning by one hundred? 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:57.920 I mean a lot of leads. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.560 He's also gotten like the goal line career. I know 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.200 he's a goal I'm back right, right right, and I 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.520 think that's what people are looking at, like he's more 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:04.720 inclined to score. 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.240 The short one. Yeah, yeah, okay, I knew that more 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.640 or less, but I was shocked at that discrepancy. Was 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:11.160 that large? 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.240 Yeah, but Wante Smith in there, it doesn't mean it. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.520 Pacheco couldn't be the guy they lean in here because 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:17.480 he's got fresh legs. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.320 Yeah, yeah, but I don't think we need to go 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:20.640 down that. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.240 I don't want to go either, right, Yeah. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.640 I don't think it's gonna be a run heavy game. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.680 No, I don't either, all right, I'm gonna put Hawkins 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:25.960 back in. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.439 I think, I think, I mean, I think that's it. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.360 Only having one hundred dollars left over is a good feeling, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.599 is a pretty good means we did a pretty. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.959 Good build on this. No, I like Goddard in the cat. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.520 It also could mean it's pretty chalky. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.440 I guess, I mean maybe everyone, you only have so 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.920 much to choose from here, and you know, you bet 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.440 a lot of people put Saque in a starting spot, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.600 though I would bet so too. That's expensive. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.839 It's expensive, and I just don't know that it's going. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.120 To be worth it, right, Hurt scores touchdowns? Yeah, yeah, no, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.840 I like it. All right, I'm gonna lock it in, Matt. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.439 So we got Dallas Goddard at eighty seven hundred in 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.840 the captain's chair, Jalen Hurts at ten four in a flex, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.920 the other flexes, Patrick Mahomes at ten thousand, Travis Kelcey 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.760 at nine thousand, Devonte Smith at seventy four hundred, and 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:12.720 DeAndre Hopkins at forty four hundred. That is locked and loaded, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.880 and they're all stars. You know, we're not hoping for 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:15.640 a grade to have. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.400 No, that's a thing you don't want to I hope 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.520 that pass. Yeah, yeah, it gets a carry. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.080 Yeah. Hopkins could be our wild card. Yeah, that's obviously 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.760 one I'm least confident about. But he's the cheapest. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.840 Yeah, so all right, lock it up. We'll see if 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.400 that works again. Goddard, Hopkins, Goddard and the captain, Sheer Hopkins, 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.520 Jalen Hurts, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes and Devonte Smith. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:38.000 I do like it. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:39.040 We have both quarterbacks. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.280 H like, that's a that's a I mean, they're gonna 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.400 score points. They're gonna Yeah, you would expect homes and 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:44.439 super Bowls going to score point. 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.440 Yeah, I would suspect so, like the floor runs more 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.640 in these guys. He might maybe he only throws for 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.920 one hundred and eighty yards, but but he throws at 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.760 least two touchdown passes. He might run for one too. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.480 I wonder what the prop bet is on touchdown passes 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.920 for him. Probably two and a half. That's pretty high. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.040 But yeah, probably it's probably one and a half or 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.040 doesn't pay grade if you take over something like that, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:09.280 something along those lines. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:10.160 I haven't looked at any of that. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.520 I haven't looked at the props. I'm doing a podcast tomorrow. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.839 We're doing a whole segment on favorite props. I'm like, God, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.320 I'm kind of dreading it. Don't want to dig into that. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:21.760 People wonder at times why we talk about this particular stuff. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.680 What we just did on the air kind of gives 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.520 you an idea of how we feel the game is. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:29.720 Going to go. Yeah, it's a somewhat of a Super 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:34.120 Bowl preview two. Yeah right, I love our build. But 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.960 I wouldn't mind either defense either, because I definitely think 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.800 Spags will be a game. Chris Jones is going to 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:45.080 cause problems That Eagles D line versus Chiefs O line 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.240 is to me, the Eagle's biggest advantage. 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.160 It's going to be troublesome. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.440 I mean, I love this joke, but I didn't come 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.800 up with it. But Cali Ende at left guard has 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.360 been impersonating a good guard. That's what you do, you know. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.640 But he's gonna get Milton Williams, who's about to get 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.800 twenty million on the open market. Probably have to help him, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.520 which means Smith, who's a good guard, gets Jalen Carter. 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.760 Who's also going to make twenty millions million. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:13.440 Around two Taylor right tackle stinks troublesome. Tunnies serviceable, but 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.480 he's a guard, you know, left tackle. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:21.720 Yeah, Taylor's Taylor's okay. If they allow him the false start. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.040 Yeah he can cheat. He's really good. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.280 He's can cheat. If he can jump the snap, yeah, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:26.320 he's fantastic. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.200 So I assume back to my pass, everything got to 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.000 come out. I mean, like we saw Mahomes two point one, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:33.960 two point two, I think. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.680 It's gonna be very much the way they played the 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.520 Steelers when they were here. Where the ball is just 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:39.840 it's a lot of boom boom. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.720 We got to catch throw I think so too, which 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.720 could be really good for Kelsey. Worthy gets a lot 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:48.160 of that stuff. 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:49.600 He gets a lot of that stuff, but it could 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.480 be some quick hitters to DeAndre Hopkins, you know, quick 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:53.880 slant boom Hopkins. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.000 I'm liking for the touchdown though, Yeah, you know, I 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.080 mean that, that to me is where we're kind of 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.200 pushing a chip in Like I could see him muscle 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:02.600 red zone. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.000 I'm muscling somebody for a score. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.320 Yeah. Yeah, going to being big and being Hopkins and 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.200 being a little healthier than you were throughout. 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.160 The same thing for Kelsey. I mean, I think if 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.760 they throw a touchdown pass into the end zone, it's 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.680 likely to go to one of those two guys. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.680 Absolutely, trust Yeah, I'm sure Kelsey will have a good day. Yeah, 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:20.760 I'm very confident of that. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.640 Especially we thought that last week in the AFC Championships 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.640 and he did not have a good day because they 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.160 were focused on Buffalo, said Travis, Kelsey is not going 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:30.640 to beat. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.800 Us, and he didn't, right, But I'll always go back 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.600 to that. Well, yeah, anyways, let's get to a break 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.800 that's going to do it. For the Fantasy Football Focus 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:45.160 We've only got one more Fantasy Football focus left this season. Yeah, tomorrow, 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.600 we'll do that tomorrow when we pick our overall lineup 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.720 where we have to actually pick a quarterback, two running backs, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.160 three receivers, a tight end. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.280 It's going to be a chore. I bet Kenneth game 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:56.560 Wall is one of those two backs. 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.880 Yeah, I would think, did we want to go Barkley 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.800 or not? I don't know. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:02.040 I don't know how. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:03.960 I mean, one of the two quarterback. You're gonna take 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.919 one of those, one of those two quarterbacks unless you 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.600 he well, let's stroke Kenny Pickett in there. 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As you know, I've been doing 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.520 some position reviews for Steelers dot com. Yeah, and let's 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.760 talk about the defensive backs today. Okay, So you make 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:32.960 a Fitzpatrick, Deshaun Elliott, Joey Porter, Junior, Dante Jackson, demonte Kz, Miles, Killerbrew, Beanie, Bishop, 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:38.479 Corey Trice, James, Pierre, cam Sutton, CJ. Henderson. Of that group, 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:44.360 you got Jackson, Sutton, Henderson, CAZy, and Pierre al slated 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.040 to be unrestricted free agents. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:47.240 It could be a lot of turnover. 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.280 It could be quite a bit of turnover in that group. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:56.359 So you got Fitzpatrick, Elliott, Porter, their starter Killer Brew, 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.959 Bishop Trice are the guys who are under contract. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.520 Yeah, I think you need to find a third safety, 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.960 maybe on almost slot capable. Yeah, and that could be draft. 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.600 They're not always super expensive, but that's today's NFL. 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.560 I mean, you found Elliott, you found KZ. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:14.760 Safeties aren't that hard to find. They're not hard. 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.680 Even Killer Brew was. It was a free agent signing that. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.160 You know, you got cheap those guys. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.040 More I think about it, I guess they haven't drafted 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.600 a lot of safeties the last five years. I don't know. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.440 And you get what's his face back from Texas, the 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.359 rookie from Yeah, I like him. Yeah, I think he's 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:30.920 going to be in the mix and make the theme 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.840 and could be a pleasant surprise. 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.440 An outside cornerback and also play a little bit of. 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.520 Both exactly what he does. But he's worth bringing up to. 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.760 There's another draft pick we don't talked about today. Didn't 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:45.000 get hardly anything out of Yeah, So I think you 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.560 need another safety, you know, I mean, somebody preferably slot capable. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:50.760 I'd like to mix and match him with Bishop, who 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.280 I think will probably make the team next year. But 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:54.720 I don't want to play as many snaps as he 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.000 did this year. Trice is still interesting to me as 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.000 a potential starting cores. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.000 Henschel is the key word that I don't want to 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.680 go into the season with him written. You know, okay 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.720 he's he or I didn't even want to go into 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.000 mini camp no and say he's he's our starter no 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:11.480 matter what. 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.000 Yeah, you guys would like to spend money on a corner. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.840 Yeah, you got to show me because he hasn't stayed healthy. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.800 Right right, right, and he's just unproven too, and we're 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.120 already in your three. I mean, he's could be gone 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:24.920 in two years even if he's good, you know whatever, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.840 there's potential there. Yeah, but I want to see more. 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:32.719 I am very interested. I'm not bringing Jackson back. I mean, 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.680 in terms of the free agents, if Pierre or KZ 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.440 wanted to come back super cheap, super late, fine. 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.720 You know Pierre does. Pierre doesn't bother me bringing him back, 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.560 No for on another one year deal, just because of 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:46.880 his special team's. 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.600 Value and he won't embarrass himself on defense. Obviously you 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:51.320 can get out of it. You can outdraft that though, 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:56.400 yeah yeah, yeah, and you would hope corner Joey goes 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:00.000 down Trice goes in, not Pierre, Pierre's your fourth outside 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.399 corner on Week ten game day. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:04.760 But and that's the like. So late in the year, 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.680 Trice started the game against I gotta remember now, he 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:13.040 started against the Ravens. I believe it was against the 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.360 Ravens he started. He started against the Bengals, last game 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.120 of the year. Okay, then they got into the playoff 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.159 game and he was inactive, and the immediate response was, 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.240 how could he be an active He started last week? Well, 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.120 Dante Jackson was out the previous week. 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.040 Yeah, yeah, so he. 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.520 He stepped in and started that game against the Bengals. 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:32.240 It was fine. 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.880 But the special teams issue, he doesn't play special teams. 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.800 Because because he's always kind of been hurt. Yeah, so 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:40.840 you don't put him out there on teams. I wonder 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.600 how much exactly, I mean, how much time has he gotten. 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:46.560 He's a little long and angular too to be a 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.200 you know, a gunner, a gunner, right, and Pierre is 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.879 the better gunner. Pierre, Yeah, yeah, those guys have to 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.040 be actively. Trust Bishop is a gunner over Trice. Not 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.080 that I'm a special teams expert, but I'm spending money 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.080 on a corner I'd love to go into the draft 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:09.720 not needing an outside corner. And we'll talk more free agents, 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:13.120 I'm sure next week, et cetera. There's about eight names 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.760 that would be an upgrade over Jackson that aren't going 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.159 to be cheap. But I want to play more man, 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.240 I want to blitz more. We'll get into all my 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.120 theories and you know how how I want changes on defense, 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.200 not massive ones. But I don't think they trusted Jackson 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:34.720 or any corner, not name porter to play a lot 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:35.760 of man coverage, you know. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.520 Which is why make if Fitzpatrick is twenty yards off 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.159 the line of scrimmage, because all right, if we're not 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:43.719 gonna be able to do that, we can't press up 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.159 on these guys, and you know expect these guys not 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.440 to get beat. Yeah, yeah, then we better have make 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.399 I fits Patrick back. There's a safety valve, so we 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.680 could get into it again in the down the road. 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.840 But I sent you a defensive. 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.480 Stat packet yesterday or whatever, and there's some things in 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.560 there about their numbers when they're in cover two or 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.400 too high aren't great. But there's some numbers in there 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.560 if you really peel the onion back that make Minca 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:11.359 look really good. 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:12.399 Yeah, they didn't give. 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.680 No big plays, no big plays, and you're still only 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.440 playing single high. The reason I one plays too high 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.040 is to not give up big plays, and you're doing 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:23.400 it with single high. So all this nonsense about Minca's 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.159 they got caught on. Make a trade him. He's on 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.320 the downside of his career, You're insane. I mean, he's 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.159 super important and it just doesn't show up on the 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.920 back of the football card, you know. But I want 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.280 another corner Yeah. 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:38.400 I think if you get another cornerback, and maybe he's 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.920 not Joey Porter Junior, I want a really good too. 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.800 But I want to I want somebody who can play 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.000 the same the same style as Joey Porter Junior. 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:46.719 Absolutely. 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.719 Now Fitzpatrick is more, he's more freed up to do 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:52.440 some of those things, to go take the ball. 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.359 Away, and again I want to blitz more. Yeah, I 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.359 want to lead the league in sacks. I mean, I 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.200 think this defense should lead the league in sacks. And 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:01.800 again we'll talk about this down the road. I have 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.840 hours of you know, nonsense to talk about that on 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.280 a soapbox. And it's not like it's a bad scheme, 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.919 but a man the man corner would go a long 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.240 way to just be in a nasty defense. Yeah. 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:17.520 And to be clear, Dante Jackson was an upgrade oh 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:19.520 yeah over what they played with the year before. 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.520 Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying he stinks or you know, 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.720 any of that stuff, but he's more of a cover 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.440 three off guy. And you know, which is why the 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.480 ball could come out as quickly as it did a 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:33.159 lot of times, exactly because you have you know, Porters. 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.720 Got his guy, man the man. The ball wasn't going 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:35.840 there necessarily. 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.440 I really want to posing quarterbacks to pat it one 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.680 more time. Yeah, that's all I want that went that 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.760 to happen one hundred times over the course of the 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.320 twenty twenty five season. Just pat it one more time. Yeah, 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.399 and that's gonna be j patting it out of your hand. 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.479 As the pass rush is going to get there. 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.760 Yes, that's all I need the ball just second, the 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.600 ball just came out too quickly on average, and I 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.280 think owners where you get your pass rush from in 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.920 this situation. Yeah, So I'm spending fifteen million on a 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.439 pass on a corner maybe you know, and I know 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:12.040 that don't on the market. You're gonna pay some bucks 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.399 for DJ Reid or Byron Murphy or whoever. But I'm 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.480 highly interested. Yeah, that's that's where I'm spending my non 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:20.720 stealer money on defense. 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.200 What I don't understand those is when is the people's well, 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.880 but you're paying all this, you're paying more money on defense, 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:28.000 more money on defense. 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:29.760 That's a misnomer, goop. 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.880 Yeah, because your offense is super young. None of those 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.800 guys are on their second contract right right. And oh 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:37.680 by the way, but as soon that's coming, that's coming, 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.480 you're gonna have. That's gonna balance out here. As to 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.480 Cam Haywards and you know t J. Watson, those guys starts. 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.840 To age outs or right, all right, And it bothers 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.879 me a little bit that people So back to our 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.680 first segment yesterday, so many people are down on the Steelers. 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.639 You know, Okay, the defense was good. It was the 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.159 highest paid defense in the league. It should be the 0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:00.280 best defense ever. Okay, maybe salary cap why it was 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:03.120 the highest paid defense in the league. But salary cap 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:08.720 stuff is a little foggy too, you know, like they 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.359 have big investments on defense, yes, but they also have 0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:12.800 a lot of young guys to play a lot on 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.160 defense too. Porter's cheap and like Elliott's not a bad 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.960 investment or you know, right, right right, I b Benton 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:21.040 and these guys too. 0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.359 I mean you have to keep restocking that. You can't 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.840 just say, well, we're paying our defense just we're not 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.640 going to use any draft picks on defensive guys. We're 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:29.439 not going to add to that. 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.639 No, and again, I have no problem spending on a corner, 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.200 drafting a nose and maybe a slot and basically making 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:38.320 the rest of the draft offense. 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.000 You know, we're two defensive linemen and yeah. 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.399 Maybe right, right, right, complete, exactly right. We do that 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.200 so often Nolan and a nose tackle or whatever. 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.440 Because your offense is going to be probably more expensive. 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.720 This year than I don't think that's going up, right, you. 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.200 Know, your offensive lineman, some of these guys are getting 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:56.560 to the point now where you're gonna have to, okay, 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.240 got to consider paying these guys. You're probably going to 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.359 spend more quarter back than you did last year. 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.120 Oh you are, Yeah, you almost have to, are right, 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.520 And yeah, so I mean it's going to start to 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.240 balance out here. And this is what I meant to 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.640 say too, Like here's an example, is okay, they they're 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.480 not spend anything on offense or spend all their money 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.840 on defense. Well, friar Mouth doesn't cost anything against your 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.639 cap because you signed him and signed him, right, but 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.320 he's about to you know, like some of the salary 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.600 cap stuff is just where they're at in their contract 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:29.960 for that given year, right, you know what I mean. 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.720 Well, let's talk about the tight end position next on 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.919 the list here. So it's Pat Fryarmuth, Darnell Washington, Michael 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.560 prut Connor Hayward were the guys that played there. They 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:40.960 some other guys that were in and out of there, 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.320 but yea, yeah, of that group, the only one. 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.320 Whorew It's up is up is pru It And we 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.800 just we just talked about how they extended friar Mouth. 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.359 He is going to be the one. 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.120 Washington's going into year three, Hayward's going into year four. 0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:01.400 Yeah, I went Washington to play all the time. I mean, 0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.320 and I'm not saying he's better than Friar Mooth or 0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.520 anything like that, but if anything, I want more snaps 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.640 from him, not less. I mean, I know I'm sure 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.959 people out there any of three wide throw it all 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.600 over the field. I want. I think that guy's really 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.840 hard to play against, and you throw the ball a 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.000 little more whatever. I just think defenses aren't happy he's 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:26.040 out there. Not a friar moose expense, necessarily, I could 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.919 take or leave if preu it comes back or not. 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.919 And if he does, fine, If he doesn't, you can 0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:34.320 find someone similar or I'd love to tap into the 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:35.320 tight end draft lass. 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.240 There's also a misnomer out there that the Steelers didn't 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.320 they ignored the tight end position this year. Yeah, yeah, 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.000 and that's it doesn't add up. First of all, Friar 0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.320 Moose receptions total this year of sixty two was the 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.440 eighth most for any tight end in the league. 0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.280 Yeah. Yeah. 0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.280 As a group, they caught ninety six passes this year, 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:58.920 nine hundred and thirty three yards and ten touchdowns. Last 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.640 year in twenty twenty three, it was sixty two catches 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.520 for five hundred and thirty six yards and two scores. 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.720 You want to talk about ignoring the position, yeah, yeah, three, 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:11.000 they ignored the position. That was a valid complaint. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, 0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:11.680 that's get it. 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.640 They did not ignore the tight end position this year. 0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:18.440 Now, if you had Fiarmuth on your fantasy team and 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.520 you think the position well, the Steelers don't throw to 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:24.280 the tight end. There were there. They still threw to 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:28.200 the tight end. It just wasn't always Firemuth. Yes, if 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.200 if Friarmuth had cut ninety six passes for nine, let's 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.440 say he caught eighty nine passes for you know, eight 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.040 hundred and fifty yards and eight touchdowns, which I think 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.560 he's capable of. He's capable of that, he'd be one 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.800 of the top fantasy tight ends out there. But this 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:49.600 isn't a situation like the guy in Arizona has, or 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.920 bruck Bauers had, or some of the you know, some 0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:53.560 of these other tight ends that were out there catching 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.320 all these passes. Who's the Who's the number two on 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.560 those teams? Nobody knows? Not the thing. Yeah, and again 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.800 we talked about like that offensive that package I put 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.720 together that Steels had a very high percentage of tight 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.720 end stuff. But you know, like the Raiders is different 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.400 because A and A receivers or the backs aren't catching 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.440 any passes, or you know, things like that too. I 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:14.160 forget what the numbers. 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.200 The number two the guy that they drafted a couple 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:17.800 of years ago missed half. 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.520 The season, right right, right, Let's have a quick Connor 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:26.120 Hayward conversation. Okay, I know he's Cam's brother and great 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.240 and more than anything, I think everyone has to realize 0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.720 he is a core special teamer and he's a killer 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:32.680 brew level special. 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.080 He was a sixth round draft pick. Yes, who is 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.880 I know he has a te next to his name, but. 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.920 He's not much different than Derek Watt. I mean in 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:46.680 terms of playing some offensive snaps. I think the ship's 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.239 kind of sailed on him as an offensive player. I 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.840 just think that of the eleven guys you put out there, 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.200 he's I thought for a while there he might be 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:57.800 one of those jack of all trades. You can handle 0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.800 the ball, he can block, he's a pretty good route 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.640 run or he's good after catch, and all those things 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:06.320 are true. But somebody on the rosters a good enough 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.680 to get you out of a game. Yeah kind of yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.080 And if he's active on special teams, great because he's 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:13.840 gonna be yeah, and he can get you out of 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.040 the game if two running backs get hurt or I 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.200 need a lead blocking fullback or whatever. But he can't 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:23.800 do Darnell Washington things he can't do. Friarmooth things he 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:28.600 can't do nausey things. He can't do Warren things. I 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.440 wonder if he's a Steeler next year, is special teams 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.800 value and that enough to be one of your fifty three? 0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.200 It could. It's just gonna be a camp story. 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.920 I mean, they brought in another fullback last year, a 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.560 true fullback. I can't remember the guy's name. 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.080 I thought he's gonna make the team too. Yeah, I 0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.320 mean it was a downhill thumper fullback type. 0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.160 He has to show that he can play special teams 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.200 and they did better than Connor Hayward. 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.720 And he probably that person. Probably that's that's the area 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.760 where Heyward, you know. But they didn't use a lot 0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.320 of fullback. No, he didn't line up in the eye 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.040 and lead the way for nag right, right right. 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:07.959 I mean, if you look at it, Hayward played eighteen 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.560 point three percent of the offensive snaps. 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.920 Which I think you're better if it's less than that. 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.440 Even Yeah, for it was it twenty four percent. And 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:17.920 the key is he didn't get hurt and he's active 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.240 every game day. Yeah, So over the course of the year, 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.640 the plan might be when everyone's healthy, he plays eight percent, 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:25.400 but of the course of the year it gets to 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.120 eighteen because he never misses time and others guys did. 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.080 In terms of the special team stuff, he's on the 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.440 top of the list. Hayward and Killer Brew led the 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.920 team in special team snaps at three hundred and three each. 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:38.200 That's valuable. 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.600 That's very valuable. Yeah. I'm not saying he's got to go. 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.400 No, I'm just saying anybody who comes in at as 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.840 a fullback to try to make this roster has to 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.719 show first and foremost that they can beat Hayward out 0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:50.760 as a special teams. 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.800 Play right, which was why Watt was here and all 0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.000 because he's the best league blocker in the league. If 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.000 you draft one, he'll probably be the three. Hayward to 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:00.960 me's always be your four tight end. Yeah, you know, 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:05.480 just for the you know, on tight end conversation. I 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.240 don't know that he's a guarantee to make the team, 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.000 And I don't know that Cam or Tomlin or any 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:11.640 of those guys would say he is either, you know, 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:15.080 I don't know he's a fixture here forever. But he's 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.160 interesting because the special team stuff is valuable. 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.040 Yeah, and he's good at it. 0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.120 He's good at it, right, you know, he does strustworthy 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.800 and right and to your point, he does. Again, he's 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.000 kind of a jack of all trades, master of none 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:30.240 or none, right, But that also has value on game day. 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.680 It does. People don't think about it on game day. 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.080 Like, Okay, who's our third back here? If this if 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:39.120 somebody somebody whoever the back is, let's let's Jalen Warrens. 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:40.640 You know, he's got something going. 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.480 On the first quarter? Like Okay, what am I doing? Right? 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.680 Yeah? Who's the backup here? Oh well, if we had to, 0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:46.680 we could put Hayard. 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.400 To give him the ball. Yeah yeah, No, that part's 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.960 important too, But I don't want him out there eighteen 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.080 percent of snaps. Yeah, I guess it's my point. I 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:55.320 get it. I get it. 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.280 Somebody's going to have to pick up the slack of 0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.240 those that twenty four percent of the snaps that prove 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.320 it played, because I don't think that's going away. 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:07.000 No, twelve personnel's not going away now. And what's the 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.480 chances Washington and Frarmouth play seventeen games each right, and 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:11.920 every snap of twelve. 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.799 And that's not gonna Yeah, they're not out there all 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.080 the time together, because I mean. 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:17.840 That could be a rookie that could be prew it. 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.760 That could be someone you pick up in June. 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.719 Probably would be somebody that you it's a good tight 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:24.600 end draft. 0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:25.799 Which means I'd like to dip my toe in that. 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.960 But there's also going to be veteran guys who are 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:30.239 Michael Prewitt like. 0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:31.439 Oh, they'll be waiting around. 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.520 There'll be waiting around, especially if they're just blockers. 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:34.760 Especially when it's blockers. 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.239 Yeah, yep, I can find one of those guys if 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:39.760 he's just going to be out there as my second 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.640 tight end and twelve personnel and we're going to run 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:42.160 the football. 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.719 As much as I love the tight end draft though, too, 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.680 Let's say you take one in the fifth round. It's 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.799 the Oregon kid or the Georgia Tech kid, and you 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.080 know you like them obviously or you wouldn't have taken them, 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.160 But do you trust them in Week one, you know, 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.279 to be the pru it. Yeah, they'll have to prove that. 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.520 I mean Washington, Darnell Washington wasn't the blocker as a 0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:03.759 rookie that he was this year. 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.160 No, I think he's one of the most improved players 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:07.520 on the team. 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.040 Yeah, I think he took a major step forward. I 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:11.799 think he's a killer from his rookie year to his 0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:13.839 second year. He was he was an Oka blocker as 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:14.240 a rookie. 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.400 Yeah, he was huge. 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:17.479 He's still big. 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.239 Yeah. Yeah, but you're not going to find somebody in 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.920 a draft who has that kind of who's that unicorn 0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.200 like that? I mean, that's a guy I want to 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.279 be here for the next eight years. And frankly, even 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.399 though he was a Georgia, he could just be big, 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.480 an athletic and still be a great blocker. Not that 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.600 his technique or effort was bad then, but then you 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.759 spend a whole offseason then he's kick sliding like he's 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.200 Walter Jones, and it's like, wow, look at that guy. 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.960 Right, So, yeah, I don't know that I want to 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:45.080 necessarily count. 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.320 On a Here's the thing that was counting on a rookie. 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.439 Counting on a rookie to do that, Drafting a rookie 0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.360 when you've already utilized draft picks in three of the 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:53.360 last four drafts. 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.120 He didn't have a long learning curve too. 0:35:55.200 --> 0:36:00.400 Yeah, it takes them. It may work a good tight 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.640 end class. It may work better to just sign one 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:05.640 of these guys, or you know, sign a veteran guy 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.720 there to fill in that spot because you just paid firemouth. Yeah, 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.640 so any rookie that you draft by the time he's up, well, farm, 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:13.759 he was also going to be up. 0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.239 This is gonna sound rough, but you could also take 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.560 one in the fifth round being back through it, and 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.319 Hayward might not be on the team. They're gonna keep four, yeah, 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.279 as much thirteen as they play, They're gonna keep four. Yeah, 0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.040 you know, so we'll see. Yeah, yeah, it all has 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.319 positions in decent hands though. 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.279 Yeah, I don't have a problem with I mean, the 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.360 top two are pretty much. 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.600 Yeah, right, were worried as much twelve and thirteen as 0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.200 they play though, if you lost one of those for 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:39.680 a long stretch, that would hurt you. 0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.600 Yeah, that's and that's why he went and got through it, 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.440 just in case. Like he's kind of a he. 0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:45.359 Can do belittle both. 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, But anyways, let's get to another break. 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.520 He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're 0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.479 listening to the Driver on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.000 and now will be back to finish up the show 0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:56.680 right after this. 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.520 At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.440 Williamson on your twenty four to seven, home of the 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.680 Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.839 Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:20.720 Williamson and Matt Kyle Krabs has updated his big board. 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:22.839 Yeah, I saw that on the on the. 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.640 Thirty third team here post Senior Bowls, it's the buzz 0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.839 through to see who made a big jump here. 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.040 Okay, doesn't talk about who moved up and didn't. 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.160 Okay, the top ten remains the same because none of 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.040 those guys didn't show. Yeah, yeah, none of those guys 0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:39.320 were at the Senior Bowl. At eleven, he has Josh 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.040 Connery at at Oregon, the offensive tackle. He was there. 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.360 I think him and the Ohio State dude are going 0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.520 to move up quickly because they're tackles. Yeah, you know, 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.960 they're just pure tackles that assuming health with the Ohio 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.480 State Simmons. Right, yeah, yeah. 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.640 If you're for the Steelers, you want those guys pressing up. 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:57.560 Yes, you're not going to take a pure tackle or 0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:00.080 an other lineman in round one, but I think those 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.239 guys are set to be the risers. 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.560 He is Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle out of Michigan 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:06.080 at twelve. 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.359 Does he really maybe he thinks he's a full time 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:09.680 player and maybe he is. 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:10.879 Yeah, we'll see. 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:11.840 I mean, maybe he is. 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.040 I think the combine will go a long way. I 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.840 mean he blows the combine up like some people are expecting. 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.080 Yeah, like you know, he's. 0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.120 Six four and two three hundred and forty pounds and 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.480 is running a sub five second forty and that kind 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.120 of stuff and looks good in the position drills. 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.160 Is like, okay, I could see that being the case. 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:35.719 Jordan Davis did that, yeah, yeah, and didn't quite pan out. Yeah. 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.120 I think he's a better player than Jordan Davis, so 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.200 I hope. So, yes, that's kind of where I'm hoping 0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:40.600 with that too. 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:42.440 He has Chavon Ravel at fifteen. 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:48.080 Yeah, and again I'm sure some of these are past 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:49.879 the medical and we'll go from there. 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.399 Yeah. Armel Membo, he said, was one of the big 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:57.080 winners the offensive lineman at Missouri has him at seventeen 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.399 album because he said he didn't participate in the Senior Bowl, 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.680 but he came and he got measured, yes, and the 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:07.120 measurements were a little bit better than what people expected, 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:12.040 because you never know. I always talk about when people 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.640 when people said, well, he's listed at six five and 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.600 you know, two hundred and eighty pounds pounds, why do 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.000 you listen as a nose tackle. I'm like, he's not 0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:21.160 really two hundred and eighty pounds. 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.920 Yeah, real measurements go a long way. Senior Bowl and 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.279 all that stuff and hand and arm and all that 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:28.799 stuff as well. Yeah, it's big. 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:32.280 Mike Green coming in at nineteen, the dresser out of Marshall. 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:33.760 He might be off of Ward by nineteen. 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.919 That's good news if you're a Steeler for Yeah, that too. 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.000 He has Shdor Sanders down at twenty. 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:39.880 Okay, but we know he's gonna go in the top twenty. 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.320 Right at twenty one he is Donovan Aziruku, the d 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:44.560 dresser out of Boston College. 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.040 That's higher than I see him in a lot of lists. 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:48.960 It would shock me. But I mean the combine will 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.720 go edg dresser combine stuff's important with the real import 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:56.680 position the drills as well, you know, the three cone 0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.520 all that type of stuff too. It'd be great to 0:39:58.520 --> 0:39:59.640 see him going in the top twenty. 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.839 Calvin Banks Junior, the offensive tackle out of Texas at 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.440 twenty two. Tyler Warren all the way down at twenty 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:06.839 three for. 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.800 Him, Wow, I think he's gonna go high. 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.400 Yeah, I think so too a couple of weeks. Just 0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.719 like Brock Bowers, people are gonna go like, we're gonna 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.200 get the next Rock Bowers and we're just gonna throw 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:17.880 him in the football. 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.840 He's also really physical and a blocker and carries a ball. 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.080 I mean, I think he's gonna go really high, Like 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.840 can the Colts pass on him? 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.160 How about this one? Quinn Shawn Jenkins at twenty eight. 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.120 Oh, I don't see that. 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:33.319 Twenty eight. 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:37.600 It's pretty high, like his second running back. Yeah, I've 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:42.440 heard Henderson in that light. Yeah, Dunkins isn't bad. I mean, 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:44.680 I the steels could have been second round. I totally 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:49.880 understand our guy. Walter Nolan at thirty four. Okay, like 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.560 to see that, all right? I said that's pretty low. 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:56.560 Yeah, Colston Loveland down at thirty seven. Benjamin Morrison at 0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.000 thirty eight. The cornerback got a Notre Dame. 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.279 Yeah. I was listening to Todd mcshay's he just put 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:05.200 out his top fifty and he had Morrison at like 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.000 forty eight, and he said, I just wanted him in 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:09.920 my top fifty. As soon as I know he's clear, 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:11.600 I'm gonna put him in the top twenty. Yeah, get 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.480 just that's all. I just have to wait. It's not 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:14.480 his fault. He is. 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.799 Andrew mccoba, the safety out of Texas at thirty nine. 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:19.319 That's as high as i've seen him. 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.520 Splotted up, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's interesting. I 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.239 can't imagine he's a second round pick on him as 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:28.000 a Steeler, but maybe free agency and stuff goes your 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:28.600 way and you can. 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:33.040 Yeah. Alfred Collins at forty two, that's as high as 0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:33.719 I've seen him. 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:35.840 I need to do more work, but I'm very intrigued 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:37.439 with him. I think he'd be a good Steeler too. 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.160 Gunner Helm at forty five, the tight end out of Texas. 0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:42.879 I've been a tight end. It's ice, out of sight, 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.160 out of mind, good after the catch. 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.600 You can run right next to him as Elijah or 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.239 Rojo the tight end out of Miami at forty six. 0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:53.000 Darius Alexander coming in at forty seven. We've had taken 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.400 him in the second round, and yeah, you know that's. 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.520 I didn't realize he was on Bruce Feldman's freak list 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.640 before this. I knew he was a really good athlete, 0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.480 but some of his workout numbers are crazy. 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.960 I talked to him at the comm or the Senior 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.160 Bowl as well, and they moved him inside and out 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:10.200 play him in those tackles. 0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.879 Yeah, all that, it'd be a really good steeler. Yeah. 0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:17.839 Tyler Williams at fifty it's late, but yeah, head of Alexander. 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.360 It's funny that he put Grant so high and Williams 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.640 so low. Yeah. Maybe he just thinks Grant isn't every 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.320 down player and Williams isn't. That's what it is. 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.320 He may have been a scheme fit across the board. 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:31.839 Yeah, yeah, yeah, looking here at the bottom fifty. Here 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:33.880 Trey Harris coming in at fifty one, the wide receiver 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:35.839 at Mississippi. He's been kind of out of sight, out 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:36.200 of mind. 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.399 Is there an injury with them? I don't think don't. Yeah, 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.120 I don't think so. T J Sanders at fifty two 0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:45.760 South Carolina. 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.040 I'd love to see him, Yeah, go quick. 0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.560 You're looking at Maxwell Harriston at fifty seven, the cornerback 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.640 out of Kentucky Man. Yeah, Omari and Hampton all the 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:59.000 way down at fifty nine. That's the third running back. 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.359 For Yeah, that'retty cheap costs for him, though. You can 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:02.760 get him in the field like that. Overall. 0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.680 Yeah, Omar Norman Lott at sixty one, the defensive lineman 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:07.480 out of Tennessee. 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.520 There's a lot to work with. He hasn't proved he 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.120 can play a lot of snaps, but that doesn't mean 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:11.600 he can't. 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:17.160 Looking here at Caleb Johnson at sixty nine, the running 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:22.080 back out of Iowa, I'm a believer. Xavier Verstrepo, the 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.600 wide receiver out of Miami at seventy. 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:26.239 A little smaller than i'd like for the Steelers, but 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.320 he's a chain mover and I think he's gonna have 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:28.880 a good career. 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.040 Yeah, you just want to get the ball in his hands. 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.520 Let's see here Shamar Turner at the Texas A and 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:38.640 m at seventy four. 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.120 Oh, he's gonna go way higher than that. Yeah, I 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.200 think he could go in the top fifteen. I mean the. 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:44.719 Production is not great, so I mentioned that. 0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:45.120 Yeah. 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.920 Wow, not as high on him as some other people are. 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.279 For I'd like to read his right up on him. 0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:51.880 I don't think he'll be a Steeler, but I'm curious 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.120 what he's seeing that he has questions about. 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.600 He also has Donovan Jackson at seventy seven. 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.200 From Ohio State. Pretty low. 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:04.520 It's pretty low there. Jack Sawyer out of the. 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.600 First round by I don't know that he's the first rounder, 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:08.600 and eighty seems low. 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:12.840 He's got Azerie Thomas at seventy six, cornerback of FDA 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:16.280 stay for that too. Yeah, it gets tough at this point. 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.719 No, I mean a lot of these guys are in 0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.319 the same tier as just a big tier. Yeah, and 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.399 that's the thing that people mad here remember about that 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.600 Jack Betch all the way down at eighty five. M 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:29.560 I bet he doesn't run great. 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:31.960 If I could get Jack Betch in the third round. 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:33.919 Yeah, sign up, sign me up. I'm kind of hoping 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.680 he runs like a four to six one. Uh. 0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:39.360 He's got Jaalen Royals at eighty seven. So written in 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.520 that same area right behind Charles Grant. 0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.920 I'm a buyer at price and all those guys, yeah, 0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:46.960 William and Mary, Charles Grant, I assume. 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:48.839 Yeah, Jaylen Milroe at eighty eight. 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:50.520 I don't know what to do with them at the moment. 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:51.479 Yeah, I don't know either. 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.600 I don't know. Uh, savve On Wye, but that's his 0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.200 number three quarterback by the way. Yeah, he hasn't mentioned 0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.279 dart Or Okay, savvy On Williams, the wide receiver at 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.640 a TCU, the monster at ninety one. 0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.120 It'd fit in Jackson Dart at ninety two. 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.720 I get it. I think some of this Senior Bowl 0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.480 first round buzz is a little manufacturer on him. Bad 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:16.239 at the Senior Bowl. 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.000 You know, Traveon Henderson at ninety four. 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.640 I think he'll go way ahead of that probably so. Yeah, 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:26.720 Quincy was a monster in the college playoffs, the average 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:27.720 like nine yards of carry. 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.240 Quincy Riley, the cornerback out of Louisville at ninety seven. 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:32.920 I think that stock's going up, up, up. 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:33.680 I think so too. 0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.480 Same with Porter the other corner, his number one. 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:40.640 Hundred player, Cam Scatibow, the running back out of Arizona State. 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.040 Not a lot of running backs in that top one. 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.640 Hundred, No, but you'd be pretty happy taking Scatabo after 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.759 ninety nine dudes are off the board. Yeah, I mean, 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:50.960 I bet he's He could be offensive Rookie of the 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.719 Year next year. He couldn't be one of those guys 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.239 Henderson could be. Yeah, you're talking where some of these 0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:59.239 guys guys go. Yeah, that running back classes something, Yeah, 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:00.000 gotta get one. 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.920 I don't know. That you want to overreach for the quarterback. 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.200 Class in this I know, I like some of the 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.560 fifth round type dudes a lot better than Dart or 0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:12.040 mill Row. At this point, maybe my opinion changes, But 0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.320 back to segment one. In the next month or so, 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:18.759 we're going to know who the starter is probably and 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.600 that'll go a long way to saying what are you 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:22.640 willing to invest in this draft at quarterback? 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.520 Yeah, somebody asked me on the message board on YouTube, 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:30.560 but today, you know, how does where does Jackson Dart's 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.240 skill set match up with Justin with that Adustin Fields. 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.000 I'm like, no, No, not at all. 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:38.000 He's not a bad athlete, but he's not design runs 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.359 for him. He's not running quarterback power, you know, not 0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:40.640 at all. 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:42.600 He just wasn't asked to do that at Mississippi, And 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.319 I don't know that that's you know, looking at his 0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:47.120 body type and everything, and you're not going to do 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:47.600 that with him. 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.040 No, I'm sure he looked fine on the hoof. I mean, 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.800 he looks like a pretty well built. 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.360 He's a thicker, thicker guy body type. Body type he 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.560 and Justin Fields are similar. 0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:59.439 But not skill set. No, he's a one read guy too. 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.480 I mean he it really never showed on tape and 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.759 he goes through his progressions. That's a hard one to 0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:04.279 sell too. 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.480 Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Anyways, Matt, that's going to do 0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:09.200 it for today's show. 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:09.720 Good one. 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.640 So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here 0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.040 on site keeping us on the air, I am Dale, Lollie. 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.520 We thank you for listening to this edition of the 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.800 Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.