Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the
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Speaker 2: We are back. I am Dale Lolly, He's the Matt
Speaker 2: Williamson and it is timed Matt to put together our
Speaker 2: DFS lineup with the captain's share. It's a little different
Speaker 2: than just building the lineup here.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a challenge that it is.
Speaker 2: And again just to let everybody know how the rules
Speaker 2: work on this if you're not familiar with it. You
Speaker 2: pick a captain. He is worth one excuse me, one
Speaker 2: and a half points, but he's also one and a
Speaker 2: half times more expensive than the other guys. And then
Speaker 2: you have your five flex spots that can be any
Speaker 2: position including the defense.
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks or yeah, you know, two defenses, whatever. But it's
Speaker 3: only one game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so looking at the captain's money sake, one is
Speaker 2: eighteen thousand dollars. Jalen Hurts is fifty teen thousand, six
Speaker 2: hundred dollars, Patrick Mahomes fifteen thousand, AJ Brown fourteen to four,
Speaker 2: Travis Kelce is thirteen to five, Xavier Worthiest twelve thousand.
Speaker 2: Kind of surprise. He's the next highest guy there. DeVonta
Speaker 2: Smith is eleven to one, Kareem Hunt ninety six hundred.
Speaker 2: Then you get to their all the backup quarterbacks. We'll
Speaker 2: skip over there. Those Dallas Goddard eighty seven hundred, Terrible
Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown eighty one hundred, Isaiah Pacheco seventy eight hundred,
Speaker 2: Harrison Butker seventy five hundred, Jake Elliott seventy two hundred,
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins sixty six hundred, the Eagles defense sixty three hundred,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs defense six thousand. Then you got Kenneth game
Speaker 2: Well at fifty one hundred, Noah Gray at forty two hundred,
Speaker 2: will Shipley thirty six hundred, Juju Smith Schuster three thousand,
Speaker 2: Johan Dotson twenty four hundred, samaj p Ryan eighteen hundred
Speaker 2: getting into cash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those guys are Cabins. Yeah. We haven't talked
Speaker 3: about Super Bowl at all on or off the air.
Speaker 3: My initial my thoughts as it stands today is I'm
Speaker 3: leaning towards the under I think there are two really
Speaker 3: good defensive coordinators, and there are some d line mismatches
Speaker 3: favoring the defenses. I agree, and I also think that
Speaker 3: Kansas City is not a big play offense, and I
Speaker 3: think Philly is gonna try to run the ball a lot,
Speaker 3: so there might not be a ton of.
Speaker 2: Plays where they keep the scoring down.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. That being said, I don't think the
Speaker 3: Chiefs run past percentage is going to be very run
Speaker 3: heavy at all. I mean, it's gonna be a controlled
Speaker 3: passing game. But I bet my Homes has a lot
Speaker 3: of attempts. Maybe that's gonna bet somebody wants to play
Speaker 3: is over on the completions or attempts because they don't
Speaker 3: throw the ball on the field at all. But I
Speaker 3: think they're gonna keep it in his hands and not
Speaker 3: run at Jalen Carter over and over and over. Some
Speaker 3: of the names. I kind of like there are Mahomes
Speaker 3: in some capacity to be on this team. You know,
Speaker 3: I was just talking captains, and you're right. I know
Speaker 3: DeVonta Smith, I think has McDuffie's been an outside guy
Speaker 3: and Smith lines in the slot a lot. If they're losing,
Speaker 3: they might throw more than they want. I thought he
Speaker 3: was a little cheaper than he should have been when
Speaker 3: he listed him.
Speaker 2: The guy that stands out to me in that regard
Speaker 2: is Goddard.
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing.
Speaker 2: Eighty seven and the Chiefs are twenty seventh against opposing
Speaker 2: tight ends.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the one.
Speaker 2: Area here where neither were the two defenses. The one
Speaker 2: area where they struggle at is there.
Speaker 3: And he's battled injuries. I think the last two weeks
Speaker 3: off will go a long way with him. Just late
Speaker 3: in the year, he's had some things. I think he's
Speaker 3: a much better player than people realize too. You know, like,
Speaker 3: wouldn't shock me if he's like a top three fantasy
Speaker 3: tight end one year. You know, they just don't throw
Speaker 3: the ball enough. I'm cool with that. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: kind of the same.
Speaker 2: Logical saving some money there. He's eighty he's only eighty
Speaker 2: seven hundred putting the captain, sure, and maybe that allows
Speaker 2: us to pay up and get you know, the two
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and things of that nature. Or so looking here
Speaker 2: at real quickly.
Speaker 3: One other note, I just think of the of that's
Speaker 3: important for this game is really over the last six
Speaker 3: weeks or so, the Eagles have said, we only want
Speaker 3: to be a nickel. The Jene's too good. We're not
Speaker 3: taking them off the field. And I'm just wondering does
Speaker 3: reed counter that with two tight ends? More two or
Speaker 3: even three tight ends, and Kelsey's gonna be expensive. But
Speaker 3: even if you do that, is that enough Gene then
Speaker 3: covering Kelsey things of that night, which he may be
Speaker 3: able to do. Yeah, but that's kind of a new
Speaker 3: development for the Eagles, is we do not want to
Speaker 3: leave our Nickel package And what's really going to do
Speaker 3: to count that?
Speaker 2: Because de Jine's gonna cover somebody there if you've only
Speaker 2: got two receivers on the field, right.
Speaker 3: And I don't think they're gonna run a ton. I
Speaker 3: don't think they're gonna come out with extra o lineman
Speaker 3: and you know, Gouger Nickel pack.
Speaker 2: Does that then make us look at Noah Gray a
Speaker 2: little hard?
Speaker 3: I would say, I think Gray would be a cheap
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put him in the Captain's chair. No, I'm
Speaker 3: a sick muaying on that pick. But that's where I
Speaker 3: was going with it, is no Gray could be on
Speaker 3: you know our regular lineup here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Barkley is twelve thousand, Herts is ten to four,
Speaker 2: Mahomes is ten thousand, aj Brown is ninety six hundred,
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey is nine thousand, Xavier Worthy is eight thousand.
Speaker 2: That's actually under budget. Okay, he's been really productive lately,
Speaker 2: but I have my doubts there. Devonte Smith is seventy
Speaker 2: four hundred.
Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah, I like Mahomes and Kelsey too.
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt sixty four hundred, Hollywood Brown is fifty four hundred,
Speaker 2: but Checko is fifty two hundred, Butker is five thousand,
Speaker 2: Elliott is forty eight hundred, Hopkins is forty four hundred.
Speaker 3: The Egans has been fighting a knee forever too. I
Speaker 3: wonder if two weeks off for the old man gives
Speaker 3: him a little more usage.
Speaker 2: You know, the Eagles defense is forty two hundred, the
Speaker 2: Chiefs defense is four thousand, and then Kenneth Gamewo is
Speaker 2: thirty four hundred.
Speaker 3: I think just like either defense either.
Speaker 2: And the thing about Game Wall is he's out there
Speaker 2: a lot on third down situations. He's also out there
Speaker 2: a lot. If they have a long sustained drive where
Speaker 2: Saquan has like they started their they started their own twenty,
Speaker 2: and Saquon carries the ball like eight times on a
Speaker 2: on a twelve play drive, they get to the opposing twenty,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, he taps out and game
Speaker 2: Wall's in there, and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: know this because I had Sau on my fantasy team
Speaker 2: and I'm watching their games.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what they're inside the twenty? Why is game
Speaker 3: woe in there? I mean, what's amazing? As you know,
Speaker 3: if you watched every snap like that, Barkley left a
Speaker 3: lot of fantasy points on the table. I mean a
Speaker 3: lot of carries on, you know, from the one or
Speaker 3: in drop down at the one. That's an unbelievable year.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to be worth the
Speaker 3: money because I think he's not a lot of times
Speaker 3: if he doesn't break off the long one and they
Speaker 3: don't allow score, right, right, right, So who do we
Speaker 3: spend money on. I kind of like the Mahomes Kelsey connection.
Speaker 2: I like that. I also like how I'd like to
Speaker 2: have both quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: I don't object to that because I mean, if I
Speaker 3: were going to play a prop in this game, Jalen
Speaker 3: Hurts anytime touchdown would be pretty and I'm sure I
Speaker 3: haven't even looked at the.
Speaker 2: Odds on any of that stuff.
Speaker 3: Probably doesn't pay well, probably doesn't care because he's expected
Speaker 3: to score a touchdown. And he does a lot. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: what's it look like we put both quarterbacks and Kelsey.
Speaker 2: In, all right, so that would be and then Kelsey
Speaker 2: all right, so we would be at we'd have fifty
Speaker 2: nine to fifty to spend on our last two spots,
Speaker 2: fifty nine to fifty each each.
Speaker 3: So what's like a Gray or a Gain.
Speaker 2: Well, so looking here at that, if we looking, guys
Speaker 2: under under that price are Hollywood Brown, but Checko, both kickers, Hopkins,
Speaker 2: both defenses, Game Well, and Gray. Okay, if we went
Speaker 2: if we went for a guy like Gray or game.
Speaker 3: Well, then we could maybe get like Davanta Smith, right, okay,
Speaker 3: because we did go pretty cheap in the Caps.
Speaker 2: Gray is twenty eight hundred, game Woll was thirty four hundred.
Speaker 3: If we put the Vauanta Smith in, okay, maybe that
Speaker 3: made a list, made an eliminate things.
Speaker 2: He's seventy four hundred. That leaves us with forty five hundred.
Speaker 2: That would get us Hopkins. You kind of think Hopkins old.
Speaker 2: I like old men in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Either defense, I'd say, defenses, kickers, Game well, Gray, Hopkins.
Speaker 3: Those were the cheap things I kind of was attracted to.
Speaker 2: So if we went with Hopkins, we'd have one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars left over.
Speaker 3: I think pass protection would be a real problem for
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. He they lost sacks, but I could see
Speaker 3: sacks he gets if he's getting rid of the ball quickly.
Speaker 3: I think it would be a lot of pass attempts.
Speaker 3: But I think the ball come out quick.
Speaker 2: That would be Goddard in the captain's chair, Hurts, Mahomes, Kelsey,
Speaker 2: Devonte Smith, DeAndre Hopkins. We got all the old guys
Speaker 2: in the life men, but we only have one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars left over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is Hopkins your favorite of the cheap ones? Uh?
Speaker 2: So you had Hopkins.
Speaker 3: If we take him back out of guys in that neighborhood, you.
Speaker 2: Had Hopkins, the Eagles defense, the Chiefs defense, gain Well,
Speaker 2: Gray Smith, Schuster another old guy.
Speaker 3: He's only two thousand. Dotson doesn't do much to know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would say a defense or Hopkins. Yeah, the problem
Speaker 3: is picking which defense. Not not much I was of thinking,
Speaker 3: because Hurts will take sacks too, and they'll blitz a
Speaker 3: lot the blitz and yeah, Chris Jones will find some
Speaker 3: spots that he likes. It'll be the interior, he said,
Speaker 3: go Hopkins. He could get a zero though, because they
Speaker 3: aren't going to get a zero. He could get a zero,
Speaker 3: but he could also score a touchdown. Yeah, yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: do we think there's gonna be a defensive like he
Speaker 3: could have? He has a higher ceiling. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: unless there's a dec unless there's a defensive score, but
Speaker 3: you don't count on that. Yeah, And there's both good defenses.
Speaker 3: But I don't think any of these offenses are haphazard
Speaker 3: with the football.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like the other guys. I like to
Speaker 2: build here, and you know, unless you want to put
Speaker 2: somebody else in the can, you want to put try
Speaker 2: Deavonte Smith in the captain share and see what that
Speaker 2: looks like. We could if you want see if that
Speaker 2: if that changes.
Speaker 3: I like the Goddard call though, So.
Speaker 2: If we put DeVante Smith, he's not that much more expensive,
Speaker 2: in the captain's chair.
Speaker 3: And then put Goddard in at the DeVante Smith spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so I like to still have Goddard on
Speaker 3: the team. That would be Devonte Smith. He's only eleven
Speaker 3: to one, and then we go with Goddard. That means
Speaker 3: we can upgrade from Hopkins, right, Yeah, quick question for you,
Speaker 3: or pretend we might have to downgrade find Goddard here first?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we spent more on the captain Yeah right,
Speaker 3: did got it?
Speaker 2: Go oh there, he is fifty eight hundred, so he's not.
Speaker 2: So then we only have thirty seven hundred to spend
Speaker 2: on our last spot. Is that would be game woll Or? Noah, Gray,
Speaker 2: I get it. Do we think we gained a lot
Speaker 2: from do we think? The question is? Do you think
Speaker 2: Smith is going to score more points? Way more points
Speaker 2: than God?
Speaker 3: That's, as I said, to be gain enough the point
Speaker 3: in a half? It there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, let's say he scores six more points
Speaker 2: in the captain's chair than Goddard would. Is that going
Speaker 2: to be enough to overcome having to play one of
Speaker 2: these other guys?
Speaker 3: I think I like the original build with Hopkins.
Speaker 2: I think I did too. Yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put Goddard back in.
Speaker 3: I guess it's irrelevant now. But my question for you
Speaker 3: that I should know the answer to is why is
Speaker 3: Hunt noticeably more than Pacheco?
Speaker 2: He's gotten way more carres? Has it been that heavy
Speaker 2: he's been pretty substantial?
Speaker 3: Or has it been when they're winning by one hundred?
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of leads.
Speaker 2: He's also gotten like the goal line career. I know
Speaker 2: he's a goal I'm back right, right right, and I
Speaker 2: think that's what people are looking at, like he's more
Speaker 2: inclined to score.
Speaker 3: The short one. Yeah, yeah, okay, I knew that more
Speaker 3: or less, but I was shocked at that discrepancy. Was
Speaker 3: that large?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Wante Smith in there, it doesn't mean it.
Speaker 2: Pacheco couldn't be the guy they lean in here because
Speaker 2: he's got fresh legs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I don't think we need to go
Speaker 3: down that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go either, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be a run heavy game.
Speaker 2: No, I don't either, all right, I'm gonna put Hawkins
Speaker 2: back in.
Speaker 3: I think, I think, I mean, I think that's it.
Speaker 2: Only having one hundred dollars left over is a good feeling,
Speaker 2: is a pretty good means we did a pretty.
Speaker 3: Good build on this. No, I like Goddard in the cat.
Speaker 2: It also could mean it's pretty chalky.
Speaker 3: I guess, I mean maybe everyone, you only have so
Speaker 3: much to choose from here, and you know, you bet
Speaker 3: a lot of people put Saque in a starting spot,
Speaker 3: though I would bet so too. That's expensive.
Speaker 2: It's expensive, and I just don't know that it's going.
Speaker 3: To be worth it, right, Hurt scores touchdowns? Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I like it. All right, I'm gonna lock it in, Matt.
Speaker 3: So we got Dallas Goddard at eighty seven hundred in
Speaker 3: the captain's chair, Jalen Hurts at ten four in a flex,
Speaker 3: the other flexes, Patrick Mahomes at ten thousand, Travis Kelcey
Speaker 3: at nine thousand, Devonte Smith at seventy four hundred, and
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins at forty four hundred. That is locked and loaded,
Speaker 3: and they're all stars. You know, we're not hoping for
Speaker 3: a grade to have.
Speaker 2: No, that's a thing you don't want to I hope
Speaker 2: that pass. Yeah, yeah, it gets a carry.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hopkins could be our wild card. Yeah, that's obviously
Speaker 3: one I'm least confident about. But he's the cheapest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, lock it up. We'll see if
Speaker 2: that works again. Goddard, Hopkins, Goddard and the captain, Sheer Hopkins,
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes and Devonte Smith.
Speaker 3: I do like it.
Speaker 2: We have both quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: H like, that's a that's a I mean, they're gonna
Speaker 3: score points. They're gonna Yeah, you would expect homes and
Speaker 3: super Bowls going to score point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would suspect so, like the floor runs more
Speaker 2: in these guys. He might maybe he only throws for
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty yards, but but he throws at
Speaker 2: least two touchdown passes. He might run for one too.
Speaker 3: I wonder what the prop bet is on touchdown passes
Speaker 3: for him. Probably two and a half. That's pretty high.
Speaker 3: But yeah, probably it's probably one and a half or
Speaker 3: doesn't pay grade if you take over something like that,
Speaker 3: something along those lines.
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at any of that.
Speaker 3: I haven't looked at the props. I'm doing a podcast tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We're doing a whole segment on favorite props. I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of dreading it. Don't want to dig into that.
Speaker 2: People wonder at times why we talk about this particular stuff.
Speaker 2: What we just did on the air kind of gives
Speaker 2: you an idea of how we feel the game is.
Speaker 3: Going to go. Yeah, it's a somewhat of a Super
Speaker 3: Bowl preview two. Yeah right, I love our build. But
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind either defense either, because I definitely think
Speaker 3: Spags will be a game. Chris Jones is going to
Speaker 3: cause problems That Eagles D line versus Chiefs O line
Speaker 3: is to me, the Eagle's biggest advantage.
Speaker 2: It's going to be troublesome.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love this joke, but I didn't come
Speaker 3: up with it. But Cali Ende at left guard has
Speaker 3: been impersonating a good guard. That's what you do, you know.
Speaker 3: But he's gonna get Milton Williams, who's about to get
Speaker 3: twenty million on the open market. Probably have to help him,
Speaker 3: which means Smith, who's a good guard, gets Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2: Who's also going to make twenty millions million.
Speaker 3: Around two Taylor right tackle stinks troublesome. Tunnies serviceable, but
Speaker 3: he's a guard, you know, left tackle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor's Taylor's okay. If they allow him the false start.
Speaker 3: Yeah he can cheat. He's really good.
Speaker 2: He's can cheat. If he can jump the snap, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's fantastic.
Speaker 3: So I assume back to my pass, everything got to
Speaker 3: come out. I mean, like we saw Mahomes two point one,
Speaker 3: two point two, I think.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be very much the way they played the
Speaker 2: Steelers when they were here. Where the ball is just
Speaker 2: it's a lot of boom boom.
Speaker 3: We got to catch throw I think so too, which
Speaker 3: could be really good for Kelsey. Worthy gets a lot
Speaker 3: of that stuff.
Speaker 2: He gets a lot of that stuff, but it could
Speaker 2: be some quick hitters to DeAndre Hopkins, you know, quick
Speaker 2: slant boom Hopkins.
Speaker 3: I'm liking for the touchdown though, Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: mean that, that to me is where we're kind of
Speaker 3: pushing a chip in Like I could see him muscle
Speaker 3: red zone.
Speaker 2: I'm muscling somebody for a score.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, going to being big and being Hopkins and
Speaker 3: being a little healthier than you were throughout.
Speaker 2: The same thing for Kelsey. I mean, I think if
Speaker 2: they throw a touchdown pass into the end zone, it's
Speaker 2: likely to go to one of those two guys.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, trust Yeah, I'm sure Kelsey will have a good day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm very confident of that.
Speaker 2: Especially we thought that last week in the AFC Championships
Speaker 2: and he did not have a good day because they
Speaker 2: were focused on Buffalo, said Travis, Kelsey is not going
Speaker 2: to beat.
Speaker 3: Us, and he didn't, right, But I'll always go back
Speaker 3: to that. Well, yeah, anyways, let's get to a break
Speaker 3: that's going to do it. For the Fantasy Football Focus
Speaker 3: We've only got one more Fantasy Football focus left this season. Yeah, tomorrow,
Speaker 3: we'll do that tomorrow when we pick our overall lineup
Speaker 3: where we have to actually pick a quarterback, two running backs,
Speaker 3: three receivers, a tight end.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a chore. I bet Kenneth game
Speaker 2: Wall is one of those two backs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think, did we want to go Barkley
Speaker 3: or not? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how.
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the two quarterback. You're gonna take
Speaker 3: one of those, one of those two quarterbacks unless you
Speaker 3: he well, let's stroke Kenny Pickett in there. You can
Speaker 3: go crazy everywhere else anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, but let's get through a break. He is
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the driver.
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Speaker 2: It is beautiful, Matt. As you know, I've been doing
Speaker 2: some position reviews for Steelers dot com. Yeah, and let's
Speaker 2: talk about the defensive backs today. Okay, So you make
Speaker 2: a Fitzpatrick, Deshaun Elliott, Joey Porter, Junior, Dante Jackson, demonte Kz, Miles, Killerbrew, Beanie, Bishop,
Speaker 2: Corey Trice, James, Pierre, cam Sutton, CJ. Henderson. Of that group,
Speaker 2: you got Jackson, Sutton, Henderson, CAZy, and Pierre al slated
Speaker 2: to be unrestricted free agents.
Speaker 3: It could be a lot of turnover.
Speaker 2: It could be quite a bit of turnover in that group.
Speaker 2: So you got Fitzpatrick, Elliott, Porter, their starter Killer Brew,
Speaker 2: Bishop Trice are the guys who are under contract.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you need to find a third safety,
Speaker 3: maybe on almost slot capable. Yeah, and that could be draft.
Speaker 3: They're not always super expensive, but that's today's NFL.
Speaker 2: I mean, you found Elliott, you found KZ.
Speaker 3: Safeties aren't that hard to find. They're not hard.
Speaker 2: Even Killer Brew was. It was a free agent signing that.
Speaker 2: You know, you got cheap those guys.
Speaker 3: More I think about it, I guess they haven't drafted
Speaker 3: a lot of safeties the last five years. I don't know.
Speaker 3: And you get what's his face back from Texas, the
Speaker 3: rookie from Yeah, I like him. Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 3: going to be in the mix and make the theme
Speaker 3: and could be a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 2: An outside cornerback and also play a little bit of.
Speaker 3: Both exactly what he does. But he's worth bringing up to.
Speaker 3: There's another draft pick we don't talked about today. Didn't
Speaker 3: get hardly anything out of Yeah, So I think you
Speaker 3: need another safety, you know, I mean, somebody preferably slot capable.
Speaker 3: I'd like to mix and match him with Bishop, who
Speaker 3: I think will probably make the team next year. But
Speaker 3: I don't want to play as many snaps as he
Speaker 3: did this year. Trice is still interesting to me as
Speaker 3: a potential starting cores.
Speaker 2: Henschel is the key word that I don't want to
Speaker 2: go into the season with him written. You know, okay
Speaker 2: he's he or I didn't even want to go into
Speaker 2: mini camp no and say he's he's our starter no
Speaker 2: matter what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys would like to spend money on a corner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to show me because he hasn't stayed healthy.
Speaker 3: Right right, right, and he's just unproven too, and we're
Speaker 3: already in your three. I mean, he's could be gone
Speaker 3: in two years even if he's good, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: there's potential there. Yeah, but I want to see more.
Speaker 3: I am very interested. I'm not bringing Jackson back. I mean,
Speaker 3: in terms of the free agents, if Pierre or KZ
Speaker 3: wanted to come back super cheap, super late, fine.
Speaker 2: You know Pierre does. Pierre doesn't bother me bringing him back,
Speaker 2: No for on another one year deal, just because of
Speaker 2: his special team's.
Speaker 3: Value and he won't embarrass himself on defense. Obviously you
Speaker 3: can get out of it. You can outdraft that though,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, yeah, and you would hope corner Joey goes
Speaker 3: down Trice goes in, not Pierre, Pierre's your fourth outside
Speaker 3: corner on Week ten game day.
Speaker 2: But and that's the like. So late in the year,
Speaker 2: Trice started the game against I gotta remember now, he
Speaker 2: started against the Ravens. I believe it was against the
Speaker 2: Ravens he started. He started against the Bengals, last game
Speaker 2: of the year. Okay, then they got into the playoff
Speaker 2: game and he was inactive, and the immediate response was,
Speaker 2: how could he be an active He started last week? Well,
Speaker 2: Dante Jackson was out the previous week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so he.
Speaker 2: He stepped in and started that game against the Bengals.
Speaker 3: It was fine.
Speaker 2: But the special teams issue, he doesn't play special teams.
Speaker 3: Because because he's always kind of been hurt. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: you don't put him out there on teams. I wonder
Speaker 3: how much exactly, I mean, how much time has he gotten.
Speaker 3: He's a little long and angular too to be a
Speaker 3: you know, a gunner, a gunner, right, and Pierre is
Speaker 3: the better gunner. Pierre, Yeah, yeah, those guys have to
Speaker 3: be actively. Trust Bishop is a gunner over Trice. Not
Speaker 3: that I'm a special teams expert, but I'm spending money
Speaker 3: on a corner I'd love to go into the draft
Speaker 3: not needing an outside corner. And we'll talk more free agents,
Speaker 3: I'm sure next week, et cetera. There's about eight names
Speaker 3: that would be an upgrade over Jackson that aren't going
Speaker 3: to be cheap. But I want to play more man,
Speaker 3: I want to blitz more. We'll get into all my
Speaker 3: theories and you know how how I want changes on defense,
Speaker 3: not massive ones. But I don't think they trusted Jackson
Speaker 3: or any corner, not name porter to play a lot
Speaker 3: of man coverage, you know.
Speaker 2: Which is why make if Fitzpatrick is twenty yards off
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, because all right, if we're not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to do that, we can't press up
Speaker 2: on these guys, and you know expect these guys not
Speaker 2: to get beat. Yeah, yeah, then we better have make
Speaker 2: I fits Patrick back. There's a safety valve, so we
Speaker 2: could get into it again in the down the road.
Speaker 2: But I sent you a defensive.
Speaker 3: Stat packet yesterday or whatever, and there's some things in
Speaker 3: there about their numbers when they're in cover two or
Speaker 3: too high aren't great. But there's some numbers in there
Speaker 3: if you really peel the onion back that make Minca
Speaker 3: look really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't give.
Speaker 3: No big plays, no big plays, and you're still only
Speaker 3: playing single high. The reason I one plays too high
Speaker 3: is to not give up big plays, and you're doing
Speaker 3: it with single high. So all this nonsense about Minca's
Speaker 3: they got caught on. Make a trade him. He's on
Speaker 3: the downside of his career, You're insane. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: super important and it just doesn't show up on the
Speaker 3: back of the football card, you know. But I want
Speaker 3: another corner Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think if you get another cornerback, and maybe he's
Speaker 2: not Joey Porter Junior, I want a really good too.
Speaker 2: But I want to I want somebody who can play
Speaker 2: the same the same style as Joey Porter Junior.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Now Fitzpatrick is more, he's more freed up to do
Speaker 2: some of those things, to go take the ball.
Speaker 3: Away, and again I want to blitz more. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: want to lead the league in sacks. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think this defense should lead the league in sacks. And
Speaker 3: again we'll talk about this down the road. I have
Speaker 3: hours of you know, nonsense to talk about that on
Speaker 3: a soapbox. And it's not like it's a bad scheme,
Speaker 3: but a man the man corner would go a long
Speaker 3: way to just be in a nasty defense. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And to be clear, Dante Jackson was an upgrade oh
Speaker 2: yeah over what they played with the year before.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying he stinks or you know,
Speaker 3: any of that stuff, but he's more of a cover
Speaker 3: three off guy. And you know, which is why the
Speaker 3: ball could come out as quickly as it did a
Speaker 3: lot of times, exactly because you have you know, Porters.
Speaker 2: Got his guy, man the man. The ball wasn't going
Speaker 2: there necessarily.
Speaker 3: I really want to posing quarterbacks to pat it one
Speaker 3: more time. Yeah, that's all I want that went that
Speaker 3: to happen one hundred times over the course of the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season. Just pat it one more time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's gonna be j patting it out of your hand.
Speaker 2: As the pass rush is going to get there.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's all I need the ball just second, the
Speaker 3: ball just came out too quickly on average, and I
Speaker 3: think owners where you get your pass rush from in
Speaker 3: this situation. Yeah, So I'm spending fifteen million on a
Speaker 3: pass on a corner maybe you know, and I know
Speaker 3: that don't on the market. You're gonna pay some bucks
Speaker 3: for DJ Reid or Byron Murphy or whoever. But I'm
Speaker 3: highly interested. Yeah, that's that's where I'm spending my non
Speaker 3: stealer money on defense.
Speaker 2: What I don't understand those is when is the people's well,
Speaker 2: but you're paying all this, you're paying more money on defense,
Speaker 2: more money on defense.
Speaker 3: That's a misnomer, goop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because your offense is super young. None of those
Speaker 2: guys are on their second contract right right. And oh
Speaker 2: by the way, but as soon that's coming, that's coming,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have. That's gonna balance out here. As to
Speaker 2: Cam Haywards and you know t J. Watson, those guys starts.
Speaker 3: To age outs or right, all right, And it bothers
Speaker 3: me a little bit that people So back to our
Speaker 3: first segment yesterday, so many people are down on the Steelers.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, the defense was good. It was the
Speaker 3: highest paid defense in the league. It should be the
Speaker 3: best defense ever. Okay, maybe salary cap why it was
Speaker 3: the highest paid defense in the league. But salary cap
Speaker 3: stuff is a little foggy too, you know, like they
Speaker 3: have big investments on defense, yes, but they also have
Speaker 3: a lot of young guys to play a lot on
Speaker 3: defense too. Porter's cheap and like Elliott's not a bad
Speaker 3: investment or you know, right, right right, I b Benton
Speaker 3: and these guys too.
Speaker 2: I mean you have to keep restocking that. You can't
Speaker 2: just say, well, we're paying our defense just we're not
Speaker 2: going to use any draft picks on defensive guys. We're
Speaker 2: not going to add to that.
Speaker 3: No, and again, I have no problem spending on a corner,
Speaker 3: drafting a nose and maybe a slot and basically making
Speaker 3: the rest of the draft offense.
Speaker 2: You know, we're two defensive linemen and yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe right, right, right, complete, exactly right. We do that
Speaker 3: so often Nolan and a nose tackle or whatever.
Speaker 2: Because your offense is going to be probably more expensive.
Speaker 3: This year than I don't think that's going up, right, you.
Speaker 2: Know, your offensive lineman, some of these guys are getting
Speaker 2: to the point now where you're gonna have to, okay,
Speaker 2: got to consider paying these guys. You're probably going to
Speaker 2: spend more quarter back than you did last year.
Speaker 3: Oh you are, Yeah, you almost have to, are right,
Speaker 3: And yeah, so I mean it's going to start to
Speaker 3: balance out here. And this is what I meant to
Speaker 3: say too, Like here's an example, is okay, they they're
Speaker 3: not spend anything on offense or spend all their money
Speaker 3: on defense. Well, friar Mouth doesn't cost anything against your
Speaker 3: cap because you signed him and signed him, right, but
Speaker 3: he's about to you know, like some of the salary
Speaker 3: cap stuff is just where they're at in their contract
Speaker 3: for that given year, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the tight end position next on
Speaker 2: the list here. So it's Pat Fryarmuth, Darnell Washington, Michael
Speaker 2: prut Connor Hayward were the guys that played there. They
Speaker 2: some other guys that were in and out of there,
Speaker 2: but yea, yeah, of that group, the only one.
Speaker 3: Whorew It's up is up is pru It And we
Speaker 3: just we just talked about how they extended friar Mouth.
Speaker 3: He is going to be the one.
Speaker 2: Washington's going into year three, Hayward's going into year four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went Washington to play all the time. I mean,
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying he's better than Friar Mooth or
Speaker 3: anything like that, but if anything, I want more snaps
Speaker 3: from him, not less. I mean, I know I'm sure
Speaker 3: people out there any of three wide throw it all
Speaker 3: over the field. I want. I think that guy's really
Speaker 3: hard to play against, and you throw the ball a
Speaker 3: little more whatever. I just think defenses aren't happy he's
Speaker 3: out there. Not a friar moose expense, necessarily, I could
Speaker 3: take or leave if preu it comes back or not.
Speaker 3: And if he does, fine, If he doesn't, you can
Speaker 3: find someone similar or I'd love to tap into the
Speaker 3: tight end draft lass.
Speaker 2: There's also a misnomer out there that the Steelers didn't
Speaker 2: they ignored the tight end position this year. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's it doesn't add up. First of all, Friar
Speaker 2: Moose receptions total this year of sixty two was the
Speaker 2: eighth most for any tight end in the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: As a group, they caught ninety six passes this year,
Speaker 2: nine hundred and thirty three yards and ten touchdowns. Last
Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty three, it was sixty two catches
Speaker 2: for five hundred and thirty six yards and two scores.
Speaker 3: You want to talk about ignoring the position, yeah, yeah, three,
Speaker 3: they ignored the position. That was a valid complaint. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's get it.
Speaker 2: They did not ignore the tight end position this year.
Speaker 3: Now, if you had Fiarmuth on your fantasy team and
Speaker 3: you think the position well, the Steelers don't throw to
Speaker 3: the tight end. There were there. They still threw to
Speaker 3: the tight end. It just wasn't always Firemuth. Yes, if
Speaker 3: if Friarmuth had cut ninety six passes for nine, let's
Speaker 3: say he caught eighty nine passes for you know, eight
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yards and eight touchdowns, which I think
Speaker 3: he's capable of. He's capable of that, he'd be one
Speaker 3: of the top fantasy tight ends out there. But this
Speaker 3: isn't a situation like the guy in Arizona has, or
Speaker 3: bruck Bauers had, or some of the you know, some
Speaker 3: of these other tight ends that were out there catching
Speaker 3: all these passes. Who's the Who's the number two on
Speaker 3: those teams? Nobody knows? Not the thing. Yeah, and again
Speaker 3: we talked about like that offensive that package I put
Speaker 3: together that Steels had a very high percentage of tight
Speaker 3: end stuff. But you know, like the Raiders is different
Speaker 3: because A and A receivers or the backs aren't catching
Speaker 3: any passes, or you know, things like that too. I
Speaker 3: forget what the numbers.
Speaker 2: The number two the guy that they drafted a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago missed half.
Speaker 3: The season, right right, right, Let's have a quick Connor
Speaker 3: Hayward conversation. Okay, I know he's Cam's brother and great
Speaker 3: and more than anything, I think everyone has to realize
Speaker 3: he is a core special teamer and he's a killer
Speaker 3: brew level special.
Speaker 2: He was a sixth round draft pick. Yes, who is
Speaker 2: I know he has a te next to his name, but.
Speaker 3: He's not much different than Derek Watt. I mean in
Speaker 3: terms of playing some offensive snaps. I think the ship's
Speaker 3: kind of sailed on him as an offensive player. I
Speaker 3: just think that of the eleven guys you put out there,
Speaker 3: he's I thought for a while there he might be
Speaker 3: one of those jack of all trades. You can handle
Speaker 3: the ball, he can block, he's a pretty good route
Speaker 3: run or he's good after catch, and all those things
Speaker 3: are true. But somebody on the rosters a good enough
Speaker 3: to get you out of a game. Yeah kind of yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And if he's active on special teams, great because he's
Speaker 3: gonna be yeah, and he can get you out of
Speaker 3: the game if two running backs get hurt or I
Speaker 3: need a lead blocking fullback or whatever. But he can't
Speaker 3: do Darnell Washington things he can't do. Friarmooth things he
Speaker 3: can't do nausey things. He can't do Warren things. I
Speaker 3: wonder if he's a Steeler next year, is special teams
Speaker 3: value and that enough to be one of your fifty three?
Speaker 3: It could. It's just gonna be a camp story.
Speaker 2: I mean, they brought in another fullback last year, a
Speaker 2: true fullback. I can't remember the guy's name.
Speaker 3: I thought he's gonna make the team too. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean it was a downhill thumper fullback type.
Speaker 2: He has to show that he can play special teams
Speaker 2: and they did better than Connor Hayward.
Speaker 3: And he probably that person. Probably that's that's the area
Speaker 3: where Heyward, you know. But they didn't use a lot
Speaker 3: of fullback. No, he didn't line up in the eye
Speaker 3: and lead the way for nag right, right right.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at it, Hayward played eighteen
Speaker 2: point three percent of the offensive snaps.
Speaker 3: Which I think you're better if it's less than that.
Speaker 3: Even Yeah, for it was it twenty four percent. And
Speaker 3: the key is he didn't get hurt and he's active
Speaker 3: every game day. Yeah, So over the course of the year,
Speaker 3: the plan might be when everyone's healthy, he plays eight percent,
Speaker 3: but of the course of the year it gets to
Speaker 3: eighteen because he never misses time and others guys did.
Speaker 2: In terms of the special team stuff, he's on the
Speaker 2: top of the list. Hayward and Killer Brew led the
Speaker 2: team in special team snaps at three hundred and three each.
Speaker 2: That's valuable.
Speaker 3: That's very valuable. Yeah. I'm not saying he's got to go.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying anybody who comes in at as
Speaker 2: a fullback to try to make this roster has to
Speaker 2: show first and foremost that they can beat Hayward out
Speaker 2: as a special teams.
Speaker 3: Play right, which was why Watt was here and all
Speaker 3: because he's the best league blocker in the league. If
Speaker 3: you draft one, he'll probably be the three. Hayward to
Speaker 3: me's always be your four tight end. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: just for the you know, on tight end conversation. I
Speaker 3: don't know that he's a guarantee to make the team,
Speaker 3: And I don't know that Cam or Tomlin or any
Speaker 3: of those guys would say he is either, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know he's a fixture here forever. But he's
Speaker 3: interesting because the special team stuff is valuable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's good at it.
Speaker 3: He's good at it, right, you know, he does strustworthy
Speaker 3: and right and to your point, he does. Again, he's
Speaker 3: kind of a jack of all trades, master of none
Speaker 3: or none, right, But that also has value on game day.
Speaker 3: It does. People don't think about it on game day.
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, who's our third back here? If this if
Speaker 2: somebody somebody whoever the back is, let's let's Jalen Warrens.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got something going.
Speaker 3: On the first quarter? Like Okay, what am I doing? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who's the backup here? Oh well, if we had to,
Speaker 2: we could put Hayard.
Speaker 3: To give him the ball. Yeah yeah, No, that part's
Speaker 3: important too, But I don't want him out there eighteen
Speaker 3: percent of snaps. Yeah, I guess it's my point. I
Speaker 3: get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: Somebody's going to have to pick up the slack of
Speaker 2: those that twenty four percent of the snaps that prove
Speaker 2: it played, because I don't think that's going away.
Speaker 3: No, twelve personnel's not going away now. And what's the
Speaker 3: chances Washington and Frarmouth play seventeen games each right, and
Speaker 3: every snap of twelve.
Speaker 2: And that's not gonna Yeah, they're not out there all
Speaker 2: the time together, because I mean.
Speaker 3: That could be a rookie that could be prew it.
Speaker 3: That could be someone you pick up in June.
Speaker 2: Probably would be somebody that you it's a good tight
Speaker 2: end draft.
Speaker 3: Which means I'd like to dip my toe in that.
Speaker 2: But there's also going to be veteran guys who are
Speaker 2: Michael Prewitt like.
Speaker 3: Oh, they'll be waiting around.
Speaker 2: There'll be waiting around, especially if they're just blockers.
Speaker 3: Especially when it's blockers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I can find one of those guys if
Speaker 2: he's just going to be out there as my second
Speaker 2: tight end and twelve personnel and we're going to run
Speaker 2: the football.
Speaker 3: As much as I love the tight end draft though, too,
Speaker 3: Let's say you take one in the fifth round. It's
Speaker 3: the Oregon kid or the Georgia Tech kid, and you
Speaker 3: know you like them obviously or you wouldn't have taken them,
Speaker 3: But do you trust them in Week one, you know,
Speaker 3: to be the pru it. Yeah, they'll have to prove that.
Speaker 2: I mean Washington, Darnell Washington wasn't the blocker as a
Speaker 2: rookie that he was this year.
Speaker 3: No, I think he's one of the most improved players
Speaker 3: on the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he took a major step forward. I
Speaker 2: think he's a killer from his rookie year to his
Speaker 2: second year. He was he was an Oka blocker as
Speaker 2: a rookie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was huge.
Speaker 2: He's still big.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but you're not going to find somebody in
Speaker 3: a draft who has that kind of who's that unicorn
Speaker 3: like that? I mean, that's a guy I want to
Speaker 3: be here for the next eight years. And frankly, even
Speaker 3: though he was a Georgia, he could just be big,
Speaker 3: an athletic and still be a great blocker. Not that
Speaker 3: his technique or effort was bad then, but then you
Speaker 3: spend a whole offseason then he's kick sliding like he's
Speaker 3: Walter Jones, and it's like, wow, look at that guy.
Speaker 2: Right, So, yeah, I don't know that I want to
Speaker 2: necessarily count.
Speaker 3: On a Here's the thing that was counting on a rookie.
Speaker 2: Counting on a rookie to do that, Drafting a rookie
Speaker 2: when you've already utilized draft picks in three of the
Speaker 2: last four drafts.
Speaker 3: He didn't have a long learning curve too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes them. It may work a good tight
Speaker 2: end class. It may work better to just sign one
Speaker 2: of these guys, or you know, sign a veteran guy
Speaker 2: there to fill in that spot because you just paid firemouth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so any rookie that you draft by the time he's up, well, farm,
Speaker 2: he was also going to be up.
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound rough, but you could also take
Speaker 3: one in the fifth round being back through it, and
Speaker 3: Hayward might not be on the team. They're gonna keep four, yeah,
Speaker 3: as much thirteen as they play, They're gonna keep four. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, so we'll see. Yeah, yeah, it all has
Speaker 3: positions in decent hands though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a problem with I mean, the
Speaker 2: top two are pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, were worried as much twelve and thirteen as
Speaker 3: they play though, if you lost one of those for
Speaker 3: a long stretch, that would hurt you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's why he went and got through it,
Speaker 2: just in case. Like he's kind of a he.
Speaker 3: Can do belittle both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But anyways, let's get to another break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt
Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt Kyle Krabs has updated his big board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that on the on the.
Speaker 2: Thirty third team here post Senior Bowls, it's the buzz
Speaker 2: through to see who made a big jump here.
Speaker 3: Okay, doesn't talk about who moved up and didn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, the top ten remains the same because none of
Speaker 2: those guys didn't show. Yeah, yeah, none of those guys
Speaker 2: were at the Senior Bowl. At eleven, he has Josh
Speaker 2: Connery at at Oregon, the offensive tackle. He was there.
Speaker 3: I think him and the Ohio State dude are going
Speaker 3: to move up quickly because they're tackles. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: they're just pure tackles that assuming health with the Ohio
Speaker 3: State Simmons. Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: If you're for the Steelers, you want those guys pressing up.
Speaker 3: Yes, you're not going to take a pure tackle or
Speaker 3: an other lineman in round one, but I think those
Speaker 3: guys are set to be the risers.
Speaker 2: He is Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle out of Michigan
Speaker 2: at twelve.
Speaker 3: Does he really maybe he thinks he's a full time
Speaker 3: player and maybe he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he is.
Speaker 2: I think the combine will go a long way. I
Speaker 2: mean he blows the combine up like some people are expecting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, he's.
Speaker 2: Six four and two three hundred and forty pounds and
Speaker 2: is running a sub five second forty and that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff and looks good in the position drills.
Speaker 3: Is like, okay, I could see that being the case.
Speaker 3: Jordan Davis did that, yeah, yeah, and didn't quite pan out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think he's a better player than Jordan Davis, so
Speaker 3: I hope. So, yes, that's kind of where I'm hoping
Speaker 3: with that too.
Speaker 2: He has Chavon Ravel at fifteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I'm sure some of these are past
Speaker 3: the medical and we'll go from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Armel Membo, he said, was one of the big
Speaker 2: winners the offensive lineman at Missouri has him at seventeen
Speaker 2: album because he said he didn't participate in the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 2: but he came and he got measured, yes, and the
Speaker 2: measurements were a little bit better than what people expected,
Speaker 2: because you never know. I always talk about when people
Speaker 2: when people said, well, he's listed at six five and
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred and eighty pounds pounds, why do
Speaker 2: you listen as a nose tackle. I'm like, he's not
Speaker 2: really two hundred and eighty pounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, real measurements go a long way. Senior Bowl and
Speaker 3: all that stuff and hand and arm and all that
Speaker 3: stuff as well. Yeah, it's big.
Speaker 2: Mike Green coming in at nineteen, the dresser out of Marshall.
Speaker 3: He might be off of Ward by nineteen.
Speaker 2: That's good news if you're a Steeler for Yeah, that too.
Speaker 2: He has Shdor Sanders down at twenty.
Speaker 3: Okay, but we know he's gonna go in the top twenty.
Speaker 3: Right at twenty one he is Donovan Aziruku, the d
Speaker 3: dresser out of Boston College.
Speaker 2: That's higher than I see him in a lot of lists.
Speaker 3: It would shock me. But I mean the combine will
Speaker 3: go edg dresser combine stuff's important with the real import
Speaker 3: position the drills as well, you know, the three cone
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff too. It'd be great to
Speaker 3: see him going in the top twenty.
Speaker 2: Calvin Banks Junior, the offensive tackle out of Texas at
Speaker 2: twenty two. Tyler Warren all the way down at twenty
Speaker 2: three for.
Speaker 3: Him, Wow, I think he's gonna go high.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too a couple of weeks. Just
Speaker 2: like Brock Bowers, people are gonna go like, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get the next Rock Bowers and we're just gonna throw
Speaker 2: him in the football.
Speaker 3: He's also really physical and a blocker and carries a ball.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's gonna go really high, Like
Speaker 3: can the Colts pass on him?
Speaker 2: How about this one? Quinn Shawn Jenkins at twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't see that.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight.
Speaker 3: It's pretty high, like his second running back. Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: heard Henderson in that light. Yeah, Dunkins isn't bad. I mean,
Speaker 3: I the steels could have been second round. I totally
Speaker 3: understand our guy. Walter Nolan at thirty four. Okay, like
Speaker 3: to see that, all right? I said that's pretty low.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Colston Loveland down at thirty seven. Benjamin Morrison at
Speaker 2: thirty eight. The cornerback got a Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was listening to Todd mcshay's he just put
Speaker 3: out his top fifty and he had Morrison at like
Speaker 3: forty eight, and he said, I just wanted him in
Speaker 3: my top fifty. As soon as I know he's clear,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put him in the top twenty. Yeah, get
Speaker 3: just that's all. I just have to wait. It's not
Speaker 3: his fault. He is.
Speaker 2: Andrew mccoba, the safety out of Texas at thirty nine.
Speaker 2: That's as high as i've seen him.
Speaker 3: Splotted up, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's interesting. I
Speaker 3: can't imagine he's a second round pick on him as
Speaker 3: a Steeler, but maybe free agency and stuff goes your
Speaker 3: way and you can.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Alfred Collins at forty two, that's as high as
Speaker 2: I've seen him.
Speaker 3: I need to do more work, but I'm very intrigued
Speaker 3: with him. I think he'd be a good Steeler too.
Speaker 2: Gunner Helm at forty five, the tight end out of Texas.
Speaker 3: I've been a tight end. It's ice, out of sight,
Speaker 3: out of mind, good after the catch.
Speaker 2: You can run right next to him as Elijah or
Speaker 2: Rojo the tight end out of Miami at forty six.
Speaker 2: Darius Alexander coming in at forty seven. We've had taken
Speaker 2: him in the second round, and yeah, you know that's.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was on Bruce Feldman's freak list
Speaker 3: before this. I knew he was a really good athlete,
Speaker 3: but some of his workout numbers are crazy.
Speaker 2: I talked to him at the comm or the Senior
Speaker 2: Bowl as well, and they moved him inside and out
Speaker 2: play him in those tackles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that, it'd be a really good steeler. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Tyler Williams at fifty it's late, but yeah, head of Alexander.
Speaker 3: It's funny that he put Grant so high and Williams
Speaker 3: so low. Yeah. Maybe he just thinks Grant isn't every
Speaker 3: down player and Williams isn't. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: He may have been a scheme fit across the board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, looking here at the bottom fifty. Here
Speaker 3: Trey Harris coming in at fifty one, the wide receiver
Speaker 3: at Mississippi. He's been kind of out of sight, out
Speaker 3: of mind.
Speaker 2: Is there an injury with them? I don't think don't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think so. T J Sanders at fifty two
Speaker 2: South Carolina.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see him, Yeah, go quick.
Speaker 2: You're looking at Maxwell Harriston at fifty seven, the cornerback
Speaker 2: out of Kentucky Man. Yeah, Omari and Hampton all the
Speaker 2: way down at fifty nine. That's the third running back.
Speaker 3: For Yeah, that'retty cheap costs for him, though. You can
Speaker 3: get him in the field like that. Overall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Omar Norman Lott at sixty one, the defensive lineman
Speaker 2: out of Tennessee.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to work with. He hasn't proved he
Speaker 3: can play a lot of snaps, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: he can't.
Speaker 2: Looking here at Caleb Johnson at sixty nine, the running
Speaker 2: back out of Iowa, I'm a believer. Xavier Verstrepo, the
Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Miami at seventy.
Speaker 3: A little smaller than i'd like for the Steelers, but
Speaker 3: he's a chain mover and I think he's gonna have
Speaker 3: a good career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just want to get the ball in his hands.
Speaker 2: Let's see here Shamar Turner at the Texas A and
Speaker 2: m at seventy four.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's gonna go way higher than that. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think he could go in the top fifteen. I mean the.
Speaker 2: Production is not great, so I mentioned that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, not as high on him as some other people are.
Speaker 3: For I'd like to read his right up on him.
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be a Steeler, but I'm curious
Speaker 3: what he's seeing that he has questions about.
Speaker 2: He also has Donovan Jackson at seventy seven.
Speaker 3: From Ohio State. Pretty low.
Speaker 2: It's pretty low there. Jack Sawyer out of the.
Speaker 3: First round by I don't know that he's the first rounder,
Speaker 3: and eighty seems low.
Speaker 2: He's got Azerie Thomas at seventy six, cornerback of FDA
Speaker 2: stay for that too. Yeah, it gets tough at this point.
Speaker 3: No, I mean a lot of these guys are in
Speaker 3: the same tier as just a big tier. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: that's the thing that people mad here remember about that
Speaker 3: Jack Betch all the way down at eighty five. M
Speaker 3: I bet he doesn't run great.
Speaker 2: If I could get Jack Betch in the third round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sign up, sign me up. I'm kind of hoping
Speaker 3: he runs like a four to six one. Uh.
Speaker 2: He's got Jaalen Royals at eighty seven. So written in
Speaker 2: that same area right behind Charles Grant.
Speaker 3: I'm a buyer at price and all those guys, yeah,
Speaker 3: William and Mary, Charles Grant, I assume.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jaylen Milroe at eighty eight.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with them at the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Uh, savve On Wye, but that's his
Speaker 3: number three quarterback by the way. Yeah, he hasn't mentioned
Speaker 3: dart Or Okay, savvy On Williams, the wide receiver at
Speaker 3: a TCU, the monster at ninety one.
Speaker 2: It'd fit in Jackson Dart at ninety two.
Speaker 3: I get it. I think some of this Senior Bowl
Speaker 3: first round buzz is a little manufacturer on him. Bad
Speaker 3: at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: You know, Traveon Henderson at ninety four.
Speaker 3: I think he'll go way ahead of that probably so. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Quincy was a monster in the college playoffs, the average
Speaker 3: like nine yards of carry.
Speaker 2: Quincy Riley, the cornerback out of Louisville at ninety seven.
Speaker 3: I think that stock's going up, up, up.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 3: Same with Porter the other corner, his number one.
Speaker 2: Hundred player, Cam Scatibow, the running back out of Arizona State.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of running backs in that top one.
Speaker 3: Hundred, No, but you'd be pretty happy taking Scatabo after
Speaker 3: ninety nine dudes are off the board. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: I bet he's He could be offensive Rookie of the
Speaker 3: Year next year. He couldn't be one of those guys
Speaker 3: Henderson could be. Yeah, you're talking where some of these
Speaker 3: guys guys go. Yeah, that running back classes something, Yeah,
Speaker 3: gotta get one.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That you want to overreach for the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Class in this I know, I like some of the
Speaker 3: fifth round type dudes a lot better than Dart or
Speaker 3: mill Row. At this point, maybe my opinion changes, But
Speaker 3: back to segment one. In the next month or so,
Speaker 3: we're going to know who the starter is probably and
Speaker 3: that'll go a long way to saying what are you
Speaker 3: willing to invest in this draft at quarterback?
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody asked me on the message board on YouTube,
Speaker 2: but today, you know, how does where does Jackson Dart's
Speaker 2: skill set match up with Justin with that Adustin Fields.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, No, not at all.
Speaker 3: He's not a bad athlete, but he's not design runs
Speaker 3: for him. He's not running quarterback power, you know, not
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: He just wasn't asked to do that at Mississippi, And
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's you know, looking at his
Speaker 2: body type and everything, and you're not going to do
Speaker 2: that with him.
Speaker 3: No, I'm sure he looked fine on the hoof. I mean,
Speaker 3: he looks like a pretty well built.
Speaker 2: He's a thicker, thicker guy body type. Body type he
Speaker 2: and Justin Fields are similar.
Speaker 3: But not skill set. No, he's a one read guy too.
Speaker 3: I mean he it really never showed on tape and
Speaker 3: he goes through his progressions. That's a hard one to
Speaker 3: sell too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Anyways, Matt, that's going to do
Speaker 2: it for today's show.
Speaker 3: Good one.
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