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Speaker 2: We are back. I am Dale Lolly, He's the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and it is timed Matt to put together our

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Speaker 2: DFS lineup with the captain's share. It's a little different

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a challenge that it is.

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Speaker 2: And again just to let everybody know how the rules

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Speaker 2: work on this if you're not familiar with it. You

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Speaker 2: pick a captain. He is worth one excuse me, one

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Speaker 2: and a half points, but he's also one and a

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Speaker 2: half times more expensive than the other guys. And then

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Speaker 2: you have your five flex spots that can be any

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks or yeah, you know, two defenses, whatever. But it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so looking at the captain's money sake, one is

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Speaker 2: eighteen thousand dollars. Jalen Hurts is fifty teen thousand, six

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelce is thirteen to five, Xavier Worthiest twelve thousand.

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Speaker 2: Smith is eleven to one, Kareem Hunt ninety six hundred.

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Speaker 2: Then you get to their all the backup quarterbacks. We'll

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Speaker 2: skip over there. Those Dallas Goddard eighty seven hundred, Terrible

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Speaker 2: Well at fifty one hundred, Noah Gray at forty two hundred,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those guys are Cabins. Yeah. We haven't talked

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Speaker 3: My initial my thoughts as it stands today is I'm

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Speaker 2: Plays where they keep the scoring down.

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Speaker 3: of the names. I kind of like there are Mahomes

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Speaker 3: DeVonta Smith, I think has McDuffie's been an outside guy

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Speaker 2: The guy that stands out to me in that regard

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Speaker 3: I thought the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Eighty seven and the Chiefs are twenty seventh against opposing

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Speaker 2: Area here where neither were the two defenses. The one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Barkley is twelve thousand, Herts is ten to four,

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Speaker 2: You know, the Eagles defense is forty two hundred, the

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Speaker 2: And the thing about Game Wall is he's out there

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what they're inside the twenty? Why is game

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Speaker 2: I like that. I also like how I'd like to

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Speaker 2: Odds on any of that stuff.

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Speaker 3: what's it look like we put both quarterbacks and Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: In, all right, so that would be and then Kelsey

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Speaker 3: So what's like a Gray or a Gain.

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Speaker 2: Well, so looking here at that, if we looking, guys

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Speaker 3: Well, then we could maybe get like Davanta Smith, right, okay,

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Speaker 2: Gray is twenty eight hundred, game Woll was thirty four hundred.

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Speaker 2: He's seventy four hundred. That leaves us with forty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: That would get us Hopkins. You kind of think Hopkins old.

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Speaker 3: Either defense, I'd say, defenses, kickers, Game well, Gray, Hopkins.

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Speaker 3: Those were the cheap things I kind of was attracted to.

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Speaker 2: So if we went with Hopkins, we'd have one hundred

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Speaker 2: That would be Goddard in the captain's chair, Hurts, Mahomes, Kelsey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is Hopkins your favorite of the cheap ones? Uh?

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Speaker 2: So you had Hopkins.

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Speaker 3: If we take him back out of guys in that neighborhood, you.

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Speaker 2: Had Hopkins, the Eagles defense, the Chiefs defense, gain Well,

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Speaker 3: He's only two thousand. Dotson doesn't do much to know. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would say a defense or Hopkins. Yeah, the problem

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Speaker 3: go Hopkins. He could get a zero though, because they

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Speaker 3: I like the Goddard call though, So.

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Speaker 3: So we got Dallas Goddard at eighty seven hundred in

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Speaker 2: No, that's a thing you don't want to I hope

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Hopkins could be our wild card. Yeah, that's obviously

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, lock it up. We'll see if

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Speaker 2: that works again. Goddard, Hopkins, Goddard and the captain, Sheer Hopkins,

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Speaker 3: I do like it.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what the prop bet is on touchdown passes

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at any of that.

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Speaker 2: People wonder at times why we talk about this particular stuff.

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Speaker 2: What we just did on the air kind of gives

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Speaker 3: Going to go. Yeah, it's a somewhat of a Super

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Speaker 3: Spags will be a game. Chris Jones is going to

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love this joke, but I didn't come

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Speaker 3: We got to catch throw I think so too, which

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a chore. I bet Kenneth game

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Speaker 2: It is beautiful, Matt. As you know, I've been doing

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Speaker 2: a Fitzpatrick, Deshaun Elliott, Joey Porter, Junior, Dante Jackson, demonte Kz, Miles, Killerbrew, Beanie, Bishop,

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Speaker 3: It could be a lot of turnover.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right, and he's just unproven too, and we're

435
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 3: already in your three. I mean, he's could be gone

436
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 3: in two years even if he's good, you know whatever,

437
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 3: there's potential there. Yeah, but I want to see more.

438
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,719
Speaker 3: I am very interested. I'm not bringing Jackson back. I mean,

439
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 3: in terms of the free agents, if Pierre or KZ

440
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 3: wanted to come back super cheap, super late, fine.

441
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 2: You know Pierre does. Pierre doesn't bother me bringing him back,

442
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: No for on another one year deal, just because of

443
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 2: his special team's.

444
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: Value and he won't embarrass himself on defense. Obviously you

445
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 3: can get out of it. You can outdraft that though,

446
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, yeah, and you would hope corner Joey goes

447
00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 3: down Trice goes in, not Pierre, Pierre's your fourth outside

448
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 3: corner on Week ten game day.

449
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: But and that's the like. So late in the year,

450
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: Trice started the game against I gotta remember now, he

451
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: started against the Ravens. I believe it was against the

452
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 2: Ravens he started. He started against the Bengals, last game

453
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 2: of the year. Okay, then they got into the playoff

454
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 2: game and he was inactive, and the immediate response was,

455
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: how could he be an active He started last week? Well,

456
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: Dante Jackson was out the previous week.

457
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so he.

458
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: He stepped in and started that game against the Bengals.

459
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: It was fine.

460
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 2: But the special teams issue, he doesn't play special teams.

461
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: Because because he's always kind of been hurt. Yeah, so

462
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 3: you don't put him out there on teams. I wonder

463
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: how much exactly, I mean, how much time has he gotten.

464
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: He's a little long and angular too to be a

465
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: you know, a gunner, a gunner, right, and Pierre is

466
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: the better gunner. Pierre, Yeah, yeah, those guys have to

467
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 3: be actively. Trust Bishop is a gunner over Trice. Not

468
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 3: that I'm a special teams expert, but I'm spending money

469
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: on a corner I'd love to go into the draft

470
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: not needing an outside corner. And we'll talk more free agents,

471
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure next week, et cetera. There's about eight names

472
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: that would be an upgrade over Jackson that aren't going

473
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: to be cheap. But I want to play more man,

474
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: I want to blitz more. We'll get into all my

475
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 3: theories and you know how how I want changes on defense,

476
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 3: not massive ones. But I don't think they trusted Jackson

477
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: or any corner, not name porter to play a lot

478
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: of man coverage, you know.

479
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: Which is why make if Fitzpatrick is twenty yards off

480
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, because all right, if we're not

481
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,719
Speaker 2: gonna be able to do that, we can't press up

482
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: on these guys, and you know expect these guys not

483
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: to get beat. Yeah, yeah, then we better have make

484
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 2: I fits Patrick back. There's a safety valve, so we

485
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: could get into it again in the down the road.

486
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: But I sent you a defensive.

487
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: Stat packet yesterday or whatever, and there's some things in

488
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: there about their numbers when they're in cover two or

489
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 3: too high aren't great. But there's some numbers in there

490
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: if you really peel the onion back that make Minca

491
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: look really good.

492
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't give.

493
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: No big plays, no big plays, and you're still only

494
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 3: playing single high. The reason I one plays too high

495
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: is to not give up big plays, and you're doing

496
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: it with single high. So all this nonsense about Minca's

497
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: they got caught on. Make a trade him. He's on

498
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: the downside of his career, You're insane. I mean, he's

499
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: super important and it just doesn't show up on the

500
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: back of the football card, you know. But I want

501
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: another corner Yeah.

502
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 2: I think if you get another cornerback, and maybe he's

503
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: not Joey Porter Junior, I want a really good too.

504
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: But I want to I want somebody who can play

505
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: the same the same style as Joey Porter Junior.

506
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

507
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 2: Now Fitzpatrick is more, he's more freed up to do

508
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: some of those things, to go take the ball.

509
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: Away, and again I want to blitz more. Yeah, I

510
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: want to lead the league in sacks. I mean, I

511
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 3: think this defense should lead the league in sacks. And

512
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: again we'll talk about this down the road. I have

513
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: hours of you know, nonsense to talk about that on

514
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: a soapbox. And it's not like it's a bad scheme,

515
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 3: but a man the man corner would go a long

516
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: way to just be in a nasty defense. Yeah.

517
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: And to be clear, Dante Jackson was an upgrade oh

518
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: yeah over what they played with the year before.

519
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying he stinks or you know,

520
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: any of that stuff, but he's more of a cover

521
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: three off guy. And you know, which is why the

522
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: ball could come out as quickly as it did a

523
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 3: lot of times, exactly because you have you know, Porters.

524
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: Got his guy, man the man. The ball wasn't going

525
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: there necessarily.

526
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: I really want to posing quarterbacks to pat it one

527
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: more time. Yeah, that's all I want that went that

528
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: to happen one hundred times over the course of the

529
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season. Just pat it one more time. Yeah,

530
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: and that's gonna be j patting it out of your hand.

531
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 2: As the pass rush is going to get there.

532
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: Yes, that's all I need the ball just second, the

533
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: ball just came out too quickly on average, and I

534
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: think owners where you get your pass rush from in

535
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: this situation. Yeah, So I'm spending fifteen million on a

536
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 3: pass on a corner maybe you know, and I know

537
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: that don't on the market. You're gonna pay some bucks

538
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: for DJ Reid or Byron Murphy or whoever. But I'm

539
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: highly interested. Yeah, that's that's where I'm spending my non

540
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: stealer money on defense.

541
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: What I don't understand those is when is the people's well,

542
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: but you're paying all this, you're paying more money on defense,

543
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: more money on defense.

544
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: That's a misnomer, goop.

545
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because your offense is super young. None of those

546
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: guys are on their second contract right right. And oh

547
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: by the way, but as soon that's coming, that's coming,

548
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna have. That's gonna balance out here. As to

549
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: Cam Haywards and you know t J. Watson, those guys starts.

550
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: To age outs or right, all right, And it bothers

551
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: me a little bit that people So back to our

552
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: first segment yesterday, so many people are down on the Steelers.

553
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, the defense was good. It was the

554
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 3: highest paid defense in the league. It should be the

555
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: best defense ever. Okay, maybe salary cap why it was

556
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: the highest paid defense in the league. But salary cap

557
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: stuff is a little foggy too, you know, like they

558
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: have big investments on defense, yes, but they also have

559
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: a lot of young guys to play a lot on

560
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: defense too. Porter's cheap and like Elliott's not a bad

561
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: investment or you know, right, right right, I b Benton

562
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: and these guys too.

563
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: I mean you have to keep restocking that. You can't

564
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: just say, well, we're paying our defense just we're not

565
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: going to use any draft picks on defensive guys. We're

566
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: not going to add to that.

567
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: No, and again, I have no problem spending on a corner,

568
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: drafting a nose and maybe a slot and basically making

569
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: the rest of the draft offense.

570
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: You know, we're two defensive linemen and yeah.

571
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 3: Maybe right, right, right, complete, exactly right. We do that

572
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: so often Nolan and a nose tackle or whatever.

573
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: Because your offense is going to be probably more expensive.

574
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: This year than I don't think that's going up, right, you.

575
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: Know, your offensive lineman, some of these guys are getting

576
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: to the point now where you're gonna have to, okay,

577
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: got to consider paying these guys. You're probably going to

578
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: spend more quarter back than you did last year.

579
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 3: Oh you are, Yeah, you almost have to, are right,

580
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: And yeah, so I mean it's going to start to

581
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: balance out here. And this is what I meant to

582
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: say too, Like here's an example, is okay, they they're

583
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: not spend anything on offense or spend all their money

584
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: on defense. Well, friar Mouth doesn't cost anything against your

585
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: cap because you signed him and signed him, right, but

586
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: he's about to you know, like some of the salary

587
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: cap stuff is just where they're at in their contract

588
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: for that given year, right, you know what I mean.

589
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the tight end position next on

590
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: the list here. So it's Pat Fryarmuth, Darnell Washington, Michael

591
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: prut Connor Hayward were the guys that played there. They

592
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: some other guys that were in and out of there,

593
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: but yea, yeah, of that group, the only one.

594
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: Whorew It's up is up is pru It And we

595
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: just we just talked about how they extended friar Mouth.

596
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: He is going to be the one.

597
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: Washington's going into year three, Hayward's going into year four.

598
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went Washington to play all the time. I mean,

599
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying he's better than Friar Mooth or

600
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: anything like that, but if anything, I want more snaps

601
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 3: from him, not less. I mean, I know I'm sure

602
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 3: people out there any of three wide throw it all

603
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: over the field. I want. I think that guy's really

604
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: hard to play against, and you throw the ball a

605
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: little more whatever. I just think defenses aren't happy he's

606
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: out there. Not a friar moose expense, necessarily, I could

607
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: take or leave if preu it comes back or not.

608
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: And if he does, fine, If he doesn't, you can

609
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: find someone similar or I'd love to tap into the

610
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: tight end draft lass.

611
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: There's also a misnomer out there that the Steelers didn't

612
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: they ignored the tight end position this year. Yeah, yeah,

613
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: and that's it doesn't add up. First of all, Friar

614
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: Moose receptions total this year of sixty two was the

615
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: eighth most for any tight end in the league.

616
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

617
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: As a group, they caught ninety six passes this year,

618
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: nine hundred and thirty three yards and ten touchdowns. Last

619
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty three, it was sixty two catches

620
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: for five hundred and thirty six yards and two scores.

621
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: You want to talk about ignoring the position, yeah, yeah, three,

622
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: they ignored the position. That was a valid complaint. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah,

623
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: that's get it.

624
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: They did not ignore the tight end position this year.

625
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Now, if you had Fiarmuth on your fantasy team and

626
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: you think the position well, the Steelers don't throw to

627
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: the tight end. There were there. They still threw to

628
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: the tight end. It just wasn't always Firemuth. Yes, if

629
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: if Friarmuth had cut ninety six passes for nine, let's

630
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: say he caught eighty nine passes for you know, eight

631
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yards and eight touchdowns, which I think

632
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: he's capable of. He's capable of that, he'd be one

633
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: of the top fantasy tight ends out there. But this

634
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: isn't a situation like the guy in Arizona has, or

635
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: bruck Bauers had, or some of the you know, some

636
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: of these other tight ends that were out there catching

637
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: all these passes. Who's the Who's the number two on

638
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: those teams? Nobody knows? Not the thing. Yeah, and again

639
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: we talked about like that offensive that package I put

640
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: together that Steels had a very high percentage of tight

641
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: end stuff. But you know, like the Raiders is different

642
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: because A and A receivers or the backs aren't catching

643
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: any passes, or you know, things like that too. I

644
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: forget what the numbers.

645
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: The number two the guy that they drafted a couple

646
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: of years ago missed half.

647
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: The season, right right, right, Let's have a quick Connor

648
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: Hayward conversation. Okay, I know he's Cam's brother and great

649
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: and more than anything, I think everyone has to realize

650
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: he is a core special teamer and he's a killer

651
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: brew level special.

652
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: He was a sixth round draft pick. Yes, who is

653
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: I know he has a te next to his name, but.

654
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: He's not much different than Derek Watt. I mean in

655
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: terms of playing some offensive snaps. I think the ship's

656
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 3: kind of sailed on him as an offensive player. I

657
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: just think that of the eleven guys you put out there,

658
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: he's I thought for a while there he might be

659
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: one of those jack of all trades. You can handle

660
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: the ball, he can block, he's a pretty good route

661
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: run or he's good after catch, and all those things

662
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: are true. But somebody on the rosters a good enough

663
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: to get you out of a game. Yeah kind of yeah, yeah, yeah.

664
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: And if he's active on special teams, great because he's

665
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: gonna be yeah, and he can get you out of

666
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: the game if two running backs get hurt or I

667
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: need a lead blocking fullback or whatever. But he can't

668
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: do Darnell Washington things he can't do. Friarmooth things he

669
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: can't do nausey things. He can't do Warren things. I

670
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: wonder if he's a Steeler next year, is special teams

671
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: value and that enough to be one of your fifty three?

672
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: It could. It's just gonna be a camp story.

673
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: I mean, they brought in another fullback last year, a

674
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: true fullback. I can't remember the guy's name.

675
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: I thought he's gonna make the team too. Yeah, I

676
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: mean it was a downhill thumper fullback type.

677
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: He has to show that he can play special teams

678
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: and they did better than Connor Hayward.

679
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: And he probably that person. Probably that's that's the area

680
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: where Heyward, you know. But they didn't use a lot

681
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: of fullback. No, he didn't line up in the eye

682
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: and lead the way for nag right, right right.

683
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at it, Hayward played eighteen

684
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: point three percent of the offensive snaps.

685
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: Which I think you're better if it's less than that.

686
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: Even Yeah, for it was it twenty four percent. And

687
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: the key is he didn't get hurt and he's active

688
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: every game day. Yeah, So over the course of the year,

689
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: the plan might be when everyone's healthy, he plays eight percent,

690
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: but of the course of the year it gets to

691
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: eighteen because he never misses time and others guys did.

692
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: In terms of the special team stuff, he's on the

693
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: top of the list. Hayward and Killer Brew led the

694
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: team in special team snaps at three hundred and three each.

695
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: That's valuable.

696
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: That's very valuable. Yeah. I'm not saying he's got to go.

697
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying anybody who comes in at as

698
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: a fullback to try to make this roster has to

699
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 2: show first and foremost that they can beat Hayward out

700
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: as a special teams.

701
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: Play right, which was why Watt was here and all

702
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: because he's the best league blocker in the league. If

703
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: you draft one, he'll probably be the three. Hayward to

704
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: me's always be your four tight end. Yeah, you know,

705
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: just for the you know, on tight end conversation. I

706
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: don't know that he's a guarantee to make the team,

707
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know that Cam or Tomlin or any

708
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: of those guys would say he is either, you know,

709
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: I don't know he's a fixture here forever. But he's

710
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: interesting because the special team stuff is valuable.

711
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's good at it.

712
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: He's good at it, right, you know, he does strustworthy

713
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: and right and to your point, he does. Again, he's

714
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: kind of a jack of all trades, master of none

715
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: or none, right, But that also has value on game day.

716
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: It does. People don't think about it on game day.

717
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, who's our third back here? If this if

718
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: somebody somebody whoever the back is, let's let's Jalen Warrens.

719
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: You know, he's got something going.

720
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: On the first quarter? Like Okay, what am I doing? Right?

721
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who's the backup here? Oh well, if we had to,

722
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: we could put Hayard.

723
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: To give him the ball. Yeah yeah, No, that part's

724
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: important too, But I don't want him out there eighteen

725
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: percent of snaps. Yeah, I guess it's my point. I

726
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: get it. I get it.

727
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Somebody's going to have to pick up the slack of

728
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: those that twenty four percent of the snaps that prove

729
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: it played, because I don't think that's going away.

730
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: No, twelve personnel's not going away now. And what's the

731
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: chances Washington and Frarmouth play seventeen games each right, and

732
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: every snap of twelve.

733
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: And that's not gonna Yeah, they're not out there all

734
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: the time together, because I mean.

735
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: That could be a rookie that could be prew it.

736
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: That could be someone you pick up in June.

737
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: Probably would be somebody that you it's a good tight

738
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: end draft.

739
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: Which means I'd like to dip my toe in that.

740
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: But there's also going to be veteran guys who are

741
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Michael Prewitt like.

742
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 3: Oh, they'll be waiting around.

743
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: There'll be waiting around, especially if they're just blockers.

744
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: Especially when it's blockers.

745
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I can find one of those guys if

746
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: he's just going to be out there as my second

747
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: tight end and twelve personnel and we're going to run

748
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: the football.

749
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: As much as I love the tight end draft though, too,

750
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Let's say you take one in the fifth round. It's

751
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: the Oregon kid or the Georgia Tech kid, and you

752
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: know you like them obviously or you wouldn't have taken them,

753
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: But do you trust them in Week one, you know,

754
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: to be the pru it. Yeah, they'll have to prove that.

755
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: I mean Washington, Darnell Washington wasn't the blocker as a

756
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: rookie that he was this year.

757
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: No, I think he's one of the most improved players

758
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: on the team.

759
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he took a major step forward. I

760
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: think he's a killer from his rookie year to his

761
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: second year. He was he was an Oka blocker as

762
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: a rookie.

763
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was huge.

764
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 2: He's still big.

765
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but you're not going to find somebody in

766
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: a draft who has that kind of who's that unicorn

767
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: like that? I mean, that's a guy I want to

768
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: be here for the next eight years. And frankly, even

769
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 3: though he was a Georgia, he could just be big,

770
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: an athletic and still be a great blocker. Not that

771
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: his technique or effort was bad then, but then you

772
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: spend a whole offseason then he's kick sliding like he's

773
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: Walter Jones, and it's like, wow, look at that guy.

774
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: Right, So, yeah, I don't know that I want to

775
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: necessarily count.

776
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: On a Here's the thing that was counting on a rookie.

777
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 2: Counting on a rookie to do that, Drafting a rookie

778
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: when you've already utilized draft picks in three of the

779
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: last four drafts.

780
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: He didn't have a long learning curve too.

781
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes them. It may work a good tight

782
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: end class. It may work better to just sign one

783
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: of these guys, or you know, sign a veteran guy

784
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: there to fill in that spot because you just paid firemouth. Yeah,

785
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: so any rookie that you draft by the time he's up, well, farm,

786
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: he was also going to be up.

787
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound rough, but you could also take

788
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: one in the fifth round being back through it, and

789
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: Hayward might not be on the team. They're gonna keep four, yeah,

790
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: as much thirteen as they play, They're gonna keep four. Yeah,

791
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: you know, so we'll see. Yeah, yeah, it all has

792
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: positions in decent hands though.

793
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a problem with I mean, the

794
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: top two are pretty much.

795
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, were worried as much twelve and thirteen as

796
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: they play though, if you lost one of those for

797
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: a long stretch, that would hurt you.

798
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's why he went and got through it,

799
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: just in case. Like he's kind of a he.

800
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: Can do belittle both.

801
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But anyways, let's get to another break.

802
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

803
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 2: listening to the Driver on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

804
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: and now will be back to finish up the show

805
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: right after this.

806
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

807
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven, home of the

808
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

809
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

810
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt Kyle Krabs has updated his big board.

811
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that on the on the.

812
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: Thirty third team here post Senior Bowls, it's the buzz

813
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: through to see who made a big jump here.

814
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: Okay, doesn't talk about who moved up and didn't.

815
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: Okay, the top ten remains the same because none of

816
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: those guys didn't show. Yeah, yeah, none of those guys

817
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: were at the Senior Bowl. At eleven, he has Josh

818
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: Connery at at Oregon, the offensive tackle. He was there.

819
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: I think him and the Ohio State dude are going

820
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: to move up quickly because they're tackles. Yeah, you know,

821
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: they're just pure tackles that assuming health with the Ohio

822
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: State Simmons. Right, yeah, yeah.

823
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: If you're for the Steelers, you want those guys pressing up.

824
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: Yes, you're not going to take a pure tackle or

825
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 3: an other lineman in round one, but I think those

826
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: guys are set to be the risers.

827
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: He is Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle out of Michigan

828
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: at twelve.

829
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 3: Does he really maybe he thinks he's a full time

830
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: player and maybe he is.

831
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

832
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he is.

833
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: I think the combine will go a long way. I

834
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: mean he blows the combine up like some people are expecting.

835
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, he's.

836
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: Six four and two three hundred and forty pounds and

837
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: is running a sub five second forty and that kind

838
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: of stuff and looks good in the position drills.

839
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: Is like, okay, I could see that being the case.

840
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: Jordan Davis did that, yeah, yeah, and didn't quite pan out. Yeah.

841
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: I think he's a better player than Jordan Davis, so

842
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: I hope. So, yes, that's kind of where I'm hoping

843
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: with that too.

844
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: He has Chavon Ravel at fifteen.

845
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I'm sure some of these are past

846
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: the medical and we'll go from there.

847
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Armel Membo, he said, was one of the big

848
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: winners the offensive lineman at Missouri has him at seventeen

849
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 2: album because he said he didn't participate in the Senior Bowl,

850
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: but he came and he got measured, yes, and the

851
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: measurements were a little bit better than what people expected,

852
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: because you never know. I always talk about when people

853
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: when people said, well, he's listed at six five and

854
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred and eighty pounds pounds, why do

855
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: you listen as a nose tackle. I'm like, he's not

856
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: really two hundred and eighty pounds.

857
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, real measurements go a long way. Senior Bowl and

858
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: all that stuff and hand and arm and all that

859
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: stuff as well. Yeah, it's big.

860
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 2: Mike Green coming in at nineteen, the dresser out of Marshall.

861
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 3: He might be off of Ward by nineteen.

862
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 2: That's good news if you're a Steeler for Yeah, that too.

863
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: He has Shdor Sanders down at twenty.

864
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: Okay, but we know he's gonna go in the top twenty.

865
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 3: Right at twenty one he is Donovan Aziruku, the d

866
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: dresser out of Boston College.

867
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: That's higher than I see him in a lot of lists.

868
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: It would shock me. But I mean the combine will

869
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 3: go edg dresser combine stuff's important with the real import

870
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: position the drills as well, you know, the three cone

871
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff too. It'd be great to

872
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: see him going in the top twenty.

873
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: Calvin Banks Junior, the offensive tackle out of Texas at

874
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: twenty two. Tyler Warren all the way down at twenty

875
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: three for.

876
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 3: Him, Wow, I think he's gonna go high.

877
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too a couple of weeks. Just

878
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: like Brock Bowers, people are gonna go like, we're gonna

879
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: get the next Rock Bowers and we're just gonna throw

880
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: him in the football.

881
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: He's also really physical and a blocker and carries a ball.

882
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's gonna go really high, Like

883
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: can the Colts pass on him?

884
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: How about this one? Quinn Shawn Jenkins at twenty eight.

885
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't see that.

886
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: Twenty eight.

887
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: It's pretty high, like his second running back. Yeah, I've

888
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: heard Henderson in that light. Yeah, Dunkins isn't bad. I mean,

889
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: I the steels could have been second round. I totally

890
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: understand our guy. Walter Nolan at thirty four. Okay, like

891
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: to see that, all right? I said that's pretty low.

892
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Colston Loveland down at thirty seven. Benjamin Morrison at

893
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: thirty eight. The cornerback got a Notre Dame.

894
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was listening to Todd mcshay's he just put

895
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: out his top fifty and he had Morrison at like

896
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: forty eight, and he said, I just wanted him in

897
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: my top fifty. As soon as I know he's clear,

898
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put him in the top twenty. Yeah, get

899
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: just that's all. I just have to wait. It's not

900
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: his fault. He is.

901
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: Andrew mccoba, the safety out of Texas at thirty nine.

902
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: That's as high as i've seen him.

903
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: Splotted up, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's interesting. I

904
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: can't imagine he's a second round pick on him as

905
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: a Steeler, but maybe free agency and stuff goes your

906
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: way and you can.

907
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Alfred Collins at forty two, that's as high as

908
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: I've seen him.

909
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: I need to do more work, but I'm very intrigued

910
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: with him. I think he'd be a good Steeler too.

911
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: Gunner Helm at forty five, the tight end out of Texas.

912
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 3: I've been a tight end. It's ice, out of sight,

913
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: out of mind, good after the catch.

914
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: You can run right next to him as Elijah or

915
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: Rojo the tight end out of Miami at forty six.

916
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: Darius Alexander coming in at forty seven. We've had taken

917
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: him in the second round, and yeah, you know that's.

918
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was on Bruce Feldman's freak list

919
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: before this. I knew he was a really good athlete,

920
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: but some of his workout numbers are crazy.

921
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: I talked to him at the comm or the Senior

922
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: Bowl as well, and they moved him inside and out

923
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: play him in those tackles.

924
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, all that, it'd be a really good steeler. Yeah.

925
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: Tyler Williams at fifty it's late, but yeah, head of Alexander.

926
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: It's funny that he put Grant so high and Williams

927
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: so low. Yeah. Maybe he just thinks Grant isn't every

928
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: down player and Williams isn't. That's what it is.

929
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: He may have been a scheme fit across the board.

930
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, looking here at the bottom fifty. Here

931
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: Trey Harris coming in at fifty one, the wide receiver

932
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: at Mississippi. He's been kind of out of sight, out

933
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: of mind.

934
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: Is there an injury with them? I don't think don't. Yeah,

935
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so. T J Sanders at fifty two

936
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: South Carolina.

937
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: I'd love to see him, Yeah, go quick.

938
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: You're looking at Maxwell Harriston at fifty seven, the cornerback

939
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: out of Kentucky Man. Yeah, Omari and Hampton all the

940
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: way down at fifty nine. That's the third running back.

941
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 3: For Yeah, that'retty cheap costs for him, though. You can

942
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 3: get him in the field like that. Overall.

943
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Omar Norman Lott at sixty one, the defensive lineman

944
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: out of Tennessee.

945
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: There's a lot to work with. He hasn't proved he

946
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: can play a lot of snaps, but that doesn't mean

947
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: he can't.

948
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: Looking here at Caleb Johnson at sixty nine, the running

949
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: back out of Iowa, I'm a believer. Xavier Verstrepo, the

950
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Miami at seventy.

951
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: A little smaller than i'd like for the Steelers, but

952
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 3: he's a chain mover and I think he's gonna have

953
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 3: a good career.

954
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just want to get the ball in his hands.

955
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: Let's see here Shamar Turner at the Texas A and

956
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: m at seventy four.

957
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh, he's gonna go way higher than that. Yeah, I

958
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: think he could go in the top fifteen. I mean the.

959
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: Production is not great, so I mentioned that.

960
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

961
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: Wow, not as high on him as some other people are.

962
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: For I'd like to read his right up on him.

963
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be a Steeler, but I'm curious

964
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: what he's seeing that he has questions about.

965
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: He also has Donovan Jackson at seventy seven.

966
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: From Ohio State. Pretty low.

967
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: It's pretty low there. Jack Sawyer out of the.

968
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: First round by I don't know that he's the first rounder,

969
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: and eighty seems low.

970
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: He's got Azerie Thomas at seventy six, cornerback of FDA

971
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: stay for that too. Yeah, it gets tough at this point.

972
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: No, I mean a lot of these guys are in

973
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: the same tier as just a big tier. Yeah, and

974
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 3: that's the thing that people mad here remember about that

975
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: Jack Betch all the way down at eighty five. M

976
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: I bet he doesn't run great.

977
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: If I could get Jack Betch in the third round.

978
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, sign up, sign me up. I'm kind of hoping

979
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: he runs like a four to six one. Uh.

980
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: He's got Jaalen Royals at eighty seven. So written in

981
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: that same area right behind Charles Grant.

982
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: I'm a buyer at price and all those guys, yeah,

983
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: William and Mary, Charles Grant, I assume.

984
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jaylen Milroe at eighty eight.

985
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with them at the moment.

986
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either.

987
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. Uh, savve On Wye, but that's his

988
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: number three quarterback by the way. Yeah, he hasn't mentioned

989
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: dart Or Okay, savvy On Williams, the wide receiver at

990
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: a TCU, the monster at ninety one.

991
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: It'd fit in Jackson Dart at ninety two.

992
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 3: I get it. I think some of this Senior Bowl

993
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: first round buzz is a little manufacturer on him. Bad

994
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: at the Senior Bowl.

995
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: You know, Traveon Henderson at ninety four.

996
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: I think he'll go way ahead of that probably so. Yeah,

997
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 3: Quincy was a monster in the college playoffs, the average

998
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 3: like nine yards of carry.

999
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: Quincy Riley, the cornerback out of Louisville at ninety seven.

1000
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: I think that stock's going up, up, up.

1001
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: I think so too.

1002
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: Same with Porter the other corner, his number one.

1003
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Hundred player, Cam Scatibow, the running back out of Arizona State.

1004
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: Not a lot of running backs in that top one.

1005
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: Hundred, No, but you'd be pretty happy taking Scatabo after

1006
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: ninety nine dudes are off the board. Yeah, I mean,

1007
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: I bet he's He could be offensive Rookie of the

1008
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: Year next year. He couldn't be one of those guys

1009
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: Henderson could be. Yeah, you're talking where some of these

1010
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: guys guys go. Yeah, that running back classes something, Yeah,

1011
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: gotta get one.

1012
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. That you want to overreach for the quarterback.

1013
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: Class in this I know, I like some of the

1014
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: fifth round type dudes a lot better than Dart or

1015
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: mill Row. At this point, maybe my opinion changes, But

1016
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 3: back to segment one. In the next month or so,

1017
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 3: we're going to know who the starter is probably and

1018
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: that'll go a long way to saying what are you

1019
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: willing to invest in this draft at quarterback?

1020
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody asked me on the message board on YouTube,

1021
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: but today, you know, how does where does Jackson Dart's

1022
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: skill set match up with Justin with that Adustin Fields.

1023
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, No, not at all.

1024
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: He's not a bad athlete, but he's not design runs

1025
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 3: for him. He's not running quarterback power, you know, not

1026
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: at all.

1027
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: He just wasn't asked to do that at Mississippi, And

1028
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's you know, looking at his

1029
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: body type and everything, and you're not going to do

1030
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: that with him.

1031
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm sure he looked fine on the hoof. I mean,

1032
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: he looks like a pretty well built.

1033
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: He's a thicker, thicker guy body type. Body type he

1034
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: and Justin Fields are similar.

1035
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: But not skill set. No, he's a one read guy too.

1036
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: I mean he it really never showed on tape and

1037
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: he goes through his progressions. That's a hard one to

1038
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: sell too.

1039
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Anyways, Matt, that's going to do

1040
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: it for today's show.

1041
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 3: Good one.

1042
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1043
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air, I am Dale, Lollie.

1044
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,520
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1045
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