1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: your Mind. Listener mail. This is Robert Lamb and for 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I think one last time, it's Seth Nicholas Johnson. That's right. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: We're actually recording this one before the week of Thanksgiving break, 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: which is why we're not going to be reading any 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: listener mail that has come in after that point or 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: during that week. Hopefully we'll get some good stuff in, 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: especially concerning on the weird house side of things, the 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Flight of Dragons. That one just came out hours really 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: before we came in to record this, and I was 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: already seeing some some folks comment on it on social 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: media and and say, oh, yeah, I love that movie 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and so forth. So hopefully 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: we'll get some good stuff in on that. And yeah, 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: by the time this episode publishes, Joe should be back 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: from his parental leave, so you'll be hearing from Joe 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: very soon. It must have been mildly confusing to our 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: audience that throughout the entire parental break we had him 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: pre record a bunch of the intros for vaults and stuff. 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: So so Joe was also here the whole time he 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: wasn't here. And uh, but now he's really back, not 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: not just a ghost voice from the past, but real 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Joe is back. By the time you're hearing this, Yeah, 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: and if you just started listening to stuff to blow 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: your mind four weeks ago, then well, the coming of 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: Joe is almost here. Behold, a Joe shall be delivered 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: to you. All right, let's jump into the mail bag here. Uh. 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: This first one comes to This is a response to 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: something that came up very briefly in one of the 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: Ignoble Prize episodes that we did, specifically talking about studies 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: involving not just crash test dummies, but crash test dummies 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: based on the the physiology of a moose. And so 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: the um A listener by the name of Robert writes 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: in and says, hi, Robert and Seth main resident here. 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: I was listening to your Ignoble Part two episode. When 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: I got to the section about moose. I was taken 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: aback to hear you say moose and elk are the same, 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: as they certainly are not. Here's a link to some 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: information that may help clear it up. Uh. And they 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: included a link that is a moose versus elk guide, 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: and this is from a a Colorado based website, and 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: and all the all that that data is accurate, So 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I think that the interest. So the thing here is 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: this is the part of the paper that we referenced 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: that that mentions this he goes quote. In certain areas 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: of our planet there are big wild animals. One big 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: species is the moose called elk in certain regions. Scandinavia 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: has a very large moose population and car moose collision 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: is a huge problem, etcetera, etcetera. So this is the 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: part you can say, it's saying that it's that the 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: moose is called elk in certain regions. So I believe 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: that the name confusion that some listeners maybe having here 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: stems from the fact that what we call a moose 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: in North America is called an elk in Eurasia. And 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: while the North American use of elk refers to an 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: entirely different species um but also in North America the 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: use of elk refers to an entirely different species. So 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: from a European standpoint, moose and elk are the same, 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: and this particular paper is European in origin, So hopefully 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: that clears everything up for everyone out there. We can 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: never clear up the deep, deep well and uh, the 63 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: labyrinth that is just language confusion and origins of words. 64 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: And I still remember being young and trying to find 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the like concrete logic behind the origin of words and 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: really really trying to like hammer it down so I 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: could really understand it and really put it together, and 68 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: then just giving up at a certain points and just going, 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: I can't figure this out, like like you know, we 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: we were too diverse of a world with two any 71 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: languages to really make definitive answers and origins to anything 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: like a big one for me. And this is this 73 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: is going on a tangent, but but I still remember 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: this one. I was trying to figure out the difference 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: between till and until, like, hey, I'll wait till tomorrow 76 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: or I'll wait until tomorrow. Why isn't till in I'll 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: wait till tomorrow? Why does it have two l's, Why 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: isn't it apostrophe t I L? That would make perfect 79 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: sense in my mind. Then I looked it up, and 80 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: it seems that both words have completely separate origins. They 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: just both happened to sound very similar and function in 82 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: a very similar way, and I was like, forget this, like, 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't go down this rabbit hole. Yeah, 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: they're They're a number of little linguistic issues like that 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: that will still come up from me when I'm reading 86 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: over something that I that I'm putting together for like 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: non notes purposes, I'll look back and I'll think, oh, well, 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: do I have this right. I'm gonna have to look 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: this up again, and yeah, do a Google search the 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: word it's. I still think that the correct usage is 91 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: incorrect all the time because I feel that, like, so, 92 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: for example, I'm gonna use a person and I'm gonna 93 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: refer to myself as an it. Okay, so if I'm 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: looking right now at some cough drops, I go, these 95 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: are Seth's cough drops. Now I'm gonna refer to myself 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: as it. These are its cough drops. I feel that 97 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: apostrophe S is still possessive. Therefore I would use I 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: t apostrophe s. But nope, it's not the case. You 99 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: only use it's when you're using it as a contraction, 100 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: for it is period, full stop. And I'm like, that's 101 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: not right, and I know it's right, but anyway, this 102 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: this is a small window into my brain. I spent 103 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: a law a lot of time trying to figure these 104 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: things out, for like the definitive real rules, and then 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: hitting a brick wall and just saying, forget it. I'm 106 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: not there is no answer here. Yeah, when I turn 107 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: on my proof reading brain, I just I go ahead 108 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: and pronounce I t apostrophe as as it is. It 109 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: just that's that's the only way I can really barrel 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: through that process. You have to. Yeah, alright. Our next 111 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: message here is from Alex starts off this way. Hello, 112 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: Robert and Joe. I've been recently thinking about an episode 113 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: that you released a while back that was essentially about 114 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: the science of being lost. Great episode, if I recall correctly, 115 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: I believe you described it as an emotional state and 116 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: referenced studies, etcetera that described the phenomenon and unintuitive actions 117 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: that lost people take. When I go to search for 118 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: the episode, I can never seem to find it, So 119 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: it's possible that I'm completely off base, and perhaps another 120 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: group of podcasters released the episode I'm describing. However, I'm 121 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: fairly confident that it was your soothing voices that educated 122 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: me in the first place, and how ironic that she 123 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: lost the episode about being lost. That's wonderful. Continuing the message, 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: if you can provide any insight as to what I'm 125 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: rambling about, it would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks to 126 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: you both and your team for providing endless hours of 127 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: entertainments and knowledge. Alex all right, well, I say, first 128 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: of all, just because we're all involved in the production 129 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: of the show doesn't mean we two can't become lost 130 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: in what we recorded or may have recorded. I'm did 131 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: Joe and I are often engaging in conversations like that, 132 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: did we do an episode on this? And I had 133 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: to I had to search through my notes. Luckily, that's 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: my main way of solving these issues. Uh. And as 135 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: it turns out, it was the leshy episode I believe. Um. So, 136 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: that was an episode that dealt, at least on the 137 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: surface with the Russian myths and folklore about creatures that 138 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: live in the woods and represent like the wildness and 139 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: danger of nature. And then we kind of use that 140 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: to get into the topic of becoming lost in the woods, 141 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: how it feels, how it happens, how easyly it can occur. 142 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Um And I guess in that too, it's also kind 143 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: of like a typical stuff to blow your mind move 144 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: where we take something highly relatable but it's kind of 145 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: beyond the behind the paywall of something more esoteric, which 146 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you might say we should probably do it 147 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: the other way around, but I don't know that's the 148 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: way we end up doing it. And uh, yeah, I 149 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: remember this being a great episode. I hope you enjoy it, um. 150 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, if anyone else is looking to get lost 151 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: in an episode, check out The Less You One. It's 152 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely a fun episode. And you know what, 153 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: I kind of miss we haven't done one of these 154 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: uh crypto zoological deep dives in a while, like, like 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we end up doing them like 156 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: every month or so, but it's never enough. I really 157 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: like them. Yeah, I love I love diving into the 158 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: into the folklore mythology for sure. That's kind of a 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: fun thing about this show in general, is that, um, 160 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: there are so many different kinds of episodes that you 161 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: and Joe do that are so beloved that no matter 162 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: how often you do them rightfully, so every audience member 163 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: can go, yeah, but what about inventions? Do more inventions? 164 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's always why not more because you have 165 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: like such a bad catalog of different kinds of angles 166 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: to take on these things. So so yeah, it's it's 167 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have, but unfortunately it also 168 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: leaves you open to a lot of requests for things 169 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: that you just did, but do it more. Yeah, yeah, 170 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: And of course some topics do deserve re exploration years later. 171 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, any anytime there's a question like this about 172 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: a possible past episode or a topic that you're not 173 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: sure we cover, just right in and we'll sort it 174 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: out alright. This next one comes to us from Trey, 175 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: and this one is kind of a fun, just conversational one. 176 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: Uh and Tray rides. Dear Robin Seth, what is a 177 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: favorite for you and the family to put on the 178 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: television after Thanksgiving? I always throw on National Lampoon's Christmas 179 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Vacation to get me in the spirit of setting up 180 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: the tree and all. I look forward to hearing your responses. 181 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it will give me something new to add in rotation. 182 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: Great question. I have some very specific answers about you, 183 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: rub Um. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you go first. I want 184 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: to hear yours. I have a whole day movie marathon 185 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: that happens every Thanksgiving. Um, it's mostly just kind of 186 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: things that um, me and my friends and my family 187 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: have seen so many times that they just kind of 188 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: like feed into the background. So if you miss a 189 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: little bit, it's okay, you can come back to it. 190 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: So it goes in this order. First we watch both 191 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Grumpy Old Men movies. Grumpy Old Men followed by Grumpy 192 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: or Old Men. That is followed by planes, Trains and Automobiles, 193 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: and then that is followed by Home Alone. That's that's 194 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: the structure and the order. And because I think the 195 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: logic well, first of all, I don't know what the 196 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: logic of including the two Grumpy Old Men movies is. 197 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Maybe because Thanksgiving occurs in the first movie. That's like 198 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: that was enough to get us to watch it once 199 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: and then just became a tradition. Uh. And of course, Planes, 200 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: Trains and Automobiles is all about Thanksgiving, so of course 201 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: that one, that one sticks, and that one is like 202 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: the main centerpiece and then what Thanksgiving is over that evening. 203 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: I do feel like Home Alone is a nice you know, 204 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: ease into the the the holiday season, the traditional Christmas season. 205 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: You know, Oh, there's some some great picks in there. 206 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously trains, planes and automobiles is uh great 207 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving film. I haven't watched it in a while. I 208 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: don't think my son's quite old enough. I'm not, or 209 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: at least I'm not ready to show it to him yet. 210 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: But that's a really fun one. Yeah, if you're showing 211 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: this to your son. I remember, in particular, there's the 212 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: scene with Eadie mcclerk where she is the uh, the 213 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: car rental woman. Oh god. Yeah, and then Steve Martin 214 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: for a PG thirteen How did he get away with 215 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: that many F words? Like I thought there was a 216 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: limit to one F word per PG thirteen movie or 217 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: something like that, but no. In one scene he says 218 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: it it's got to be what five dozen times? I 219 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: have no idea. I've never counted, but it's just perpetual. 220 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that that that would be hard to 221 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: introduce to a child. I think, and and and not 222 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: have them think it's very funny and then repeat it, 223 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, yeah like that. Yeah, there are a lot 224 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: of of F bombs in that scene. And then it's 225 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: kind of punctuated by that scene where he gets picked 226 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 1: up by the testicles and um and then speaking in 227 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: a squeaky voice. Yeah, I could easily sort of like 228 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: edit all that out. I can skip that entire part. 229 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah, No, great movie. I love it, 230 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: watch it every year. But uh yeah, And I'm just 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: now realizing that that's to John Hughes movies back to back. 232 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: I I didn't think of that before ever, but yeah, Planes, 233 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Trains and Automobiles and Home Alone, both written by John Hughes. Yeah, 234 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: that there's something about not only John Hughes movies, but 235 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: sort of like John Hughes adjacent films and that whole 236 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: sort of genre of of the family comedy from that era. 237 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this recently because I have no 238 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: idea why, but the movie groundhog Day came up. Groundhog 239 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: Day is a movie movie that my son has seen, 240 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: and he was asking my wife, and I was like, 241 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: that's a Christmas movie, right, And of course, the the 242 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: obvious ants here is no, it's of course not a 243 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: Christmas movie. It's about it's about groundhog Day. But in 244 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: another real sense, it does feel like a Christmas movie. 245 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: In in many other respects it does. And in fact, 246 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't recommend anyone investigates this route, but there are 247 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: multiple uh, Groundhog Day knockoff Christmas films that are terrible. 248 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: Don't watch them, but they exist. It's the kind of 249 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: thing of like, oh, my Christmas Day is going so 250 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: terribly gosh, tomorrow will be better, you know, December. But 251 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: then no, this protagonist is stuck in Christmas Day and 252 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: they have to make sure that they do it the 253 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: right way. But it's it's literally just a complete rip 254 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: off of Groundhog Day. And there are multiple movies that 255 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: do this, like I think at least two I can 256 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: think of maybe more, and they're terrible. Don't watch them. 257 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: At the end, the time loop plot structure can be 258 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: so interesting. I've done, You've done right, but it's often 259 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: done lazily. I guess. Have you seen a film called 260 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Palm Springs. Can't recommend it high enough. It's an Andy 261 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: Samberg starring vehicle. Um, it's a Hulu film. I want 262 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: to say, I think it might be a Hulu original 263 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: and it's so so, so good, and it is a 264 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: time loop groundhog Day situation, but it's just done wonderfully well. 265 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Like I, I can't recommend it high enough. So yeah, 266 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Palm Springs, check it out. Nice. Oh, but you have 267 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: an answered what are your thanks. Oh yeah, our Thanksgiving film, 268 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: I guess. Currently our only real tradition is the ninety 269 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: four um Gorky film Studio Jack Frost or Morozoko. This 270 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: is one that we we featured on a Weird House 271 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: cinema I think last year, and uh so go see 272 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: that episode for all my my thoughts on that movie. 273 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: But it's one that are kind of originated for for 274 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: me and my wife out of watching uh Mystery Science 275 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: Theater three thousand episodes on Turkey Day, and this was 276 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: featured there. But now we've gotten to the point where 277 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: we're just watching it without any MST three K because 278 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: the pictures beautiful, the film quality if you get a 279 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: non riffed version of it, and it's just just a 280 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: lot of fun, totally stands the test of time. Yeah. Absolutely, 281 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: And yeah MST three K adjacent media around Thanksgiving Day 282 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: is a tradition. Everyone loves that. Beyond that, we're we're 283 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: plotting ways to try and introduce my son to the 284 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Gremlins movie franchise, somehow skipping over like the really disturbing 285 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: parts of the first movie. I haven't fully mapped out 286 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: that venture yet. I mean that the The Dead Father 287 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: addressed as Santa is definitely the part that you have 288 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: to keep away from the kids for a while until 289 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: they reach a certain age. But yeah, yeah, that's a 290 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: fun one. Though. I feel like kids could watch two 291 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: more easily than they could watch one. Yeah, I've been 292 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: arguing for that. I'm like, let's just skip straight to 293 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: G two and my ovis like, I don't know if 294 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna understand everything, and then I'm like, well, yeah, 295 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: and he would. He would miss out on some cuteness 296 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: and some basic exploitation explanation of the concept if he 297 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: skipped you one, So fair enough. It's true the origin 298 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: tale of you know, kind of the rules kind of 299 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: it where it works well in the Gremlins universe, and 300 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: I guess all film universes with creatures and monsters to 301 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: have those rules laid down as a steady foundation. Now, 302 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: some people have the Twilight Zone tradition of Thanksgiving right 303 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: because somebody some station used to do or still does 304 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Twilight Zone Thanksgiving marathons. Is that right? Or am I 305 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: thinking about another holiday if it was in my mind? 306 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if I'm right either, because who 307 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: knows what television does anymore? I remember them being New 308 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: Year's Eve. That's Twilight Zone marathons. But um, but I'm 309 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: sure different stations did different things. But that's that's my memory. 310 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: That's I think you're correct on that. I was misremembering 311 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: that tradition. I wish it was my tradition because then, 312 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: because yeah, I'd love like a holiday dictated excuse to 313 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: watch old Twilight Zone episodes. Oh yeah, for sure, for 314 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: sure I need to make a new one. Like what 315 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: holiday can I align with? Night gallery? Oh gosh, what 316 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: is the longest night of the year? Is that? Um? 317 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: Winter Solstice? So so so it's like the longest night 318 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: gallery of the year and just squeezing as many as 319 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: you can from sundown till sun up. Okay, all right, 320 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: so Trey, I hope, I hope some of that helped you. 321 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: Maybe that'll give you some ideas for the future. Oh 322 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: and in a very quick ps perennial classic is, of 323 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: course the Peanuts Thanksgiving Special, serving pretzels, jelly beans and 324 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: toast for Thanksgiving at a big table with a bunch 325 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: of kids. Hilarious. I don't remember that one. I only 326 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: know the Great Pumpkin. I think that's a good one too. Well, 327 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: And the Christmas one, but yeah, I didn't even realize 328 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: off top of my hand. They had a Thanksgiving one. 329 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: Some of the best Peanuts ones, the lesser seen holiday ones. Um, 330 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: there's a wonderful sad Valentine's Day one, and there's a 331 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: wonderful Easter one. The Peanuts, the Peanuts family. Oh gosh, 332 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: they have so many specials and then many of them 333 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: are are just wonderful, just full of full of you know, 334 00:17:51,440 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: subtle childhood depression, which I just really relate with. M Alright, 335 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: moving on next, we have a message here from David. 336 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Let's see what we got here. Greetings. My father was 337 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: a rocket scientist. He was literally a pioneer of American 338 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: aerospace and held a patent in solid fuel propellant. After 339 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: his retirement in the nineteen nineties, he opened up about 340 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: a few things more fanciful. I was working on a 341 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: sci fi concept and we were discussing it as well 342 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: as Dune, Star Wars, etcetera. I'm tempted to do a 343 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: bit more backstory on this particular discussion, but I'll cut 344 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: to the chase. Well versed in quantum mechanics, my dad suggested, 345 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing with due liberty, that the so called 346 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: spooky relationship between particles might indicate a sort of subspace 347 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: plane or medium. And this is pretty much verbatim. Construct 348 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: something around a prime particle, excite that particle. It signals 349 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: the other particle to wits. Look what I have here? 350 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: What this bamp? Now? I'm now I'm boiling down not 351 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: one but a few long conversations into a cute see 352 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: cartoon strip. But I'm sure you'll find that interesting and 353 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm happy to share more about its happy trails. David 354 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: m hmm. Well, um, uh, I love what what David 355 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: is essentially getting at here. Yeah. That that when you 356 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: start looking into the realm of quantum mechanics and all there, 357 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: there are these various areas where, um, what we believe 358 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: to be true or possibly be true about the universe, uh, 359 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: can begin to align with some of our are seemingly 360 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: more fantastic sci fi concepts. And I don't I don't 361 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: think we've done an episode where we really get into 362 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: this sort of thing recently, but in the past we 363 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: have talking about things like I think warp bubbles and 364 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: so forth. Um, which isn't necessarily died to quantum discussions 365 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: but still when you get into some of these more 366 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: far out ideas about how things like faster than like 367 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: travel could a actually be achieved, it gets it gets 368 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: pretty pretty neat. Yeah, I mean from like the most 369 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: basic point of view ever when it comes to science. Uh, 370 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Albert Einstein, he basically did prove time travel as possible, 371 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: and yet you know the limitations of that. You can 372 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: go forward, you can't go back, you know, like like 373 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: just like those little things, and it's it is fun 374 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: to just kind of see that reality in of of 375 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: science fiction concepts, but not really like you can't really 376 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: have like the fun you want to have with it. 377 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: But it's like it's like close enough. It's like just 378 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: a hint of what's like beyond that veil. And it's 379 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: funny too. I have a couple of friends who work 380 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: in aerospace and uh one's a rocket scientist, one is 381 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: uh in space exploration, and both of them, whenever I 382 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: hear about like the kind of projects they're working on, 383 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: first of all, they're always very hush hush and they 384 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: can't tell me lots of details. But I'm very used 385 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: to working in the entertainment industry, where you start something 386 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: and then you finish it, you know, within a year, 387 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: but usually within the week. You know. Uh, their projects 388 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: take longer than their lifetime, you know, like that they'll 389 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: be working on something that they know they'll never finish 390 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: that they they they're just you know, putting in their 391 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: time on a project, contributing to something that perhaps you know, 392 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: two more generations after them will actually reach this final 393 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: conclusion when it comes to whatever liquid physics or something 394 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: who knows, what's you know, whatever aerospace rocket scientists are 395 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: are focusing on these days. All right, I'm grabbing another 396 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: one here, this one. This we I don't think we've 397 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: ever done this before, but I was, I was doing 398 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: a quick search to see if anyone had written in 399 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: about the weird House on Congo yet, and uh we 400 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: did here for some from some folks, but I found 401 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: this one that is actually from much earlier this year, 402 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: from January, actually, well before it was announced that we're 403 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: going to discuss Congo and UM. A listener by the 404 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: name of Mark wrote in in response to one of 405 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: our I think crab discussions that is re airing or 406 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: would have re aired last week, so anyway, Mark writes 407 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: in with an email titled time Crabs and says in 408 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: the novel Congo, a guerrilla named Coco, and I think 409 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: it's actually Amy, but very easy to make that confusion 410 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: because I believe Amy is in large part based on Cocoa. 411 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Um So Mark continues, a guerrilla named Coco or Amy 412 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: has the same spatial time orientation. The past is in 413 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: front of us because it is known. But if Coco 414 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: was told that someone was coming soon, she would look 415 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: over her shoulder. Wonder where Michael Crichton got this idea, Martin, Yeah, 416 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I remember that discussion. The discussion back about time in general, 417 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: and about the future being in front of you and 418 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: the past being behind you, and how that relates often too, 419 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: something as simple as just literally like traveling down a road, 420 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: you know where It's like if you say to someone this, 421 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, this is five days from now, you think spatially, like, oh, 422 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: how far is that ahead of me? If I walked 423 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: down a road or no, like, oh this was a 424 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: week ago, It's like, oh, where could I have been 425 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: one week behind to me if I was walking Like 426 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: that kind of like relating space to time in a 427 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: literal way, and that's pretty fun. Yeah, Yeah, I think 428 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: the Crab discussion was what how would superintelligent crab focus 429 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: on this, given that it kind of made it move 430 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: side to side. But but this is a great detail 431 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: from the novel Congo and totally the sort of thing 432 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: that Michael Crichton would just throw in there here and there. 433 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the reasons the books were 434 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: so much fun to read. All Right, We've got one 435 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: last message here. This is from Jamie via Facebook. Here's 436 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: what Jamie has to say. I'm listening back to the 437 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen episode Alien Abduction Experience, Part one, 438 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: kind of binging episodes while working on this ongoing cross 439 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: stitch of of the planet Saturn. That sounds wonderful. A 440 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: train of thought occurred to me while Roberts and Christian 441 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: Hey an old Christian episode Christian Seger briefly discussed up 442 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: this book called The Seven Sins of Memory. Robert touched 443 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: on absent mindedness, using as an example of when people 444 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: try to recall where you were when September eleven two 445 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: one happened, and how you probably don't actually remember with 446 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: accuracy what you were wearing or what you had for 447 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: breakfast that day. A sudden question slash idea I pondered 448 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: about which may make an interesting future episode. I don't 449 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: know is this and then paraphrase and quickly Jamie gives 450 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: us the idea to focus on an episode about the 451 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: instinct of trying to remember where you were on nine eleven, 452 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: which is definitely an interesting idea. I'm just coming away 453 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: from the message for a moment here. I feel like 454 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: it's got something to do with touch points for humanity. 455 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: Is there There are a few things that we all 456 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: have in common, and sometimes we have them and we 457 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: can all focus on them and have a shared experience 458 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: and have a kind of like a shared knowledge base, 459 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: And nine eleven is definitely one of those, Like like, here, 460 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 1: here's an example of that that's that's not tragedy related. Um. 461 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: I remember in college, I was taking a film course 462 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: and the instruct after he very early on in the class, 463 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: said to everyone's like, all right, who's seen Wizard of Oz, 464 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: you know? And most of the class raised their hand. 465 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, who's seen Titanic? And most of 466 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: the class raised their hand, and he's like, okay, okay, 467 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: just checking every year, I have to check in on 468 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: this because I know I'm always trying to find the 469 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: common film that almost everyone has seen when I'm when 470 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm starting, just so we all have a common language, 471 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: and it used to be Wizard of Oz. But as 472 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: as I'm aging, I think it's getting closer and closer 473 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: to Titanic. And it's been a while since I was 474 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: in college, so I'm sure it's changed again since then. 475 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: But uh, but yeah, you're just finding that that touch 476 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: points that commonality amongst a large group of people. And 477 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: nine eleven, you know, was that events. You know, we 478 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: all experienced it one way or another. Yeah, and there 479 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: would be not not to say that they certainly wouldn't 480 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: be the same emotional state, but there are comparable, uh 481 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: emotional states to discuss their um So yeah, there there's 482 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: This would have been for many people a noteworthy touch 483 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: don't event and uh and you can revisit it by 484 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: asking other people where they were and how they felt. 485 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Getting back to Jamie's message, it seems to serve as 486 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: a kind of socially bonding activity remembering and recalling. But 487 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: what if you cannot recall exactly where or when or 488 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: what you were wearing where you were when an event 489 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: of some significance happens. I wonder if there's a certain 490 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: taboo or stigma societally at work, if we can't remember 491 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: something like that. For instance, around the anniversary of nine eleven, 492 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: you'll see posts asking others what they remember about it. 493 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: I have to imagine there's a percentage of people who 494 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: see that post and scroll past, possibly because they don't 495 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: have a formed answer. I wonder how that person feels. 496 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Does it bother them? Is there an obligation of some 497 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: kind to reminisce what happens if you don't. Is there 498 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: a feeling of loss? Do you lose something on some 499 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: level when you can't participate or if you refuse to 500 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: Speaking from experience, in two thousand and one, I was 501 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: in elementary school. I have almost no member of nine 502 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: eleven to speak of. I also enjoy these episodes discussing 503 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: alien abduction and the subject of Incubi. And then she 504 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: mentions that we never talked about the band Incubis, which 505 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: of course we should, so we're mentioning it. Now there's 506 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: a band called Incubus. They exist. Getting back to the message, 507 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: the idea of alien abduction absolutely terrifies me anyone else, 508 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: So glad I can put some of my personal hang 509 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: ups to bed. And uh yeah, thank you so much, Jamie. 510 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's one part of this that, um, I 511 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: think you can relate to a little bit. But a 512 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: big part of this of like having something happening in 513 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: society that either through choice or reality, you're opting out of. 514 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm a vegan, so when I walk through a grocery store, 515 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: I see most of that store. I was just like 516 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: not for me, you know, like whenever I'm walking through, 517 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like, nothing over there for me, Nothing over 518 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: there for me. People talking about like these like kind 519 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: of um food traditions that happen every year, whether it's 520 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: eating turkey on Thanksgiving or whether it's um, you know, 521 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: rilling up some burgers for uh the fourth of July, 522 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, all these food traditions that are 523 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: non vegan, which are most of them of course. Um 524 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: I I had to put a place in my mind 525 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: years ago when I became a vegan just going like, 526 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: you know what, that's just not for me, period, Like, 527 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: like I'm not involved in any of that. And thankfully 528 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: there are many food substitutes at this point that you 529 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: can't have, you know, fake burgers, a fake Treu ducan 530 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. But uh, but yeah, no, no, that that's 531 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: that's an element that I see in my life, especially 532 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: interacting with most of my friends who are primarily not vegans, 533 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: and just going like, oh, I'm not a part of this. 534 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, this is interesting. I was actually reading a 535 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: little about studies that have looked at at at a 536 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: similar topic here, like what does it take to cause 537 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: a division between like one group and another like that? 538 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: One of like there's about political examples, but also it 539 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: gets down to things like cat people versus dog people, 540 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: which of course is a kind of a ridiculous distinction. Um. 541 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: And then you have other things like, for instance, take 542 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: take the band Incubus. I don't think I've ever listened 543 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: to Incubus, and I don't have a strong opinion about 544 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: that fact or the band, Like I'm not a never 545 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: Incubus person. I don't don't really have an opinion. Just 546 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: it just never happened for me. Um. And there are 547 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: a lot of things like that in our life where 548 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: we're just like, oh, well, that's yeah, I guess that's 549 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: not my thing, but I don't have an opinion on it. 550 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: Then there are plenty of other things where you're going 551 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: to have more of an opinion. Maybe the choice is 552 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: based in some sort of you know, I mean a 553 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: moral standpoint or environmental standpoint, etcetera. Certainly that can be 554 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: said for a lot of dietary preferences. Um, And then 555 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: there are other elements as well. But even something like 556 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, well I'm a you maybe have a more 557 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: of a heated response on something like uh, let's say 558 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: the band Kiss. You might say, well, I'm not a 559 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: kiss fan, and it's it's not a neutral stance. It's 560 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: more of an assertive and aggressive stance. That's an excellent point, um. 561 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: Bringing it back to a food preferences, like you were 562 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: saying to uh, yeah, there's like, you know, different kinds 563 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: of people who don't eat meat. Like for me, it's 564 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: just like, oh, it makes me feel better when I 565 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: don't eat meat, so I just don't do it. Other 566 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: people are like, no, this is a moral stance and 567 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm judging you for eating meats, and so yeah, that 568 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: is like a difference where it's like me because I 569 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: I you know, I know people eat meat, and I 570 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: don't really care when I walk through a grocery store, 571 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: I do just kind of block it out as like 572 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: oh whatever, you know, that's just not for me. That's 573 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: it's almost like it doesn't exist. Whereas if you're the 574 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of person who's like, no, I hate that people 575 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: eat meat, you you may perhaps you do see it, 576 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's it's a sore point for you. 577 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: It's a no, I I don't like that this exists. 578 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, that that's that's an interesting idea. The difference 579 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: between um, a positive thought, a negative thought, and a 580 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: neutral thought. The neutral thought truly can't ignore, but positive 581 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: or negative you you are thinking about it more. Yes, 582 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: I think we will do an episode in the future 583 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: on this, because he gets into questions like what is 584 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: the what is the smallest thing that could lead to 585 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: a division like this? And then why does it? I 586 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of the times too, there's gonna be 587 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna slip to more extreme visions of it, and 588 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna be holding to this schism without it being 589 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: a real conscious effort, without like waking up and going 590 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: through like these are the reasons I believe this thing. 591 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: This is why I'm opposed to you know, this sports 592 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: team or this sport or whatever the division happens to be. 593 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: I remember years ago some toilet paper company, don't remember 594 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 1: which one. They were trying to create a false schism 595 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: in their in their in their user base, which I 596 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: guess is everyone that uses toilet paper, and they were like, hey, 597 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 1: are you the kind of person that has it flip 598 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: over or flip under? And they were doing like a 599 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: survey and there was you know, it's just a joke 600 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: for for an ad campaign or whatever, but I remember 601 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: the result that I still remember the result of this day. 602 00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: So there's there's no real, you know, distinct answer or 603 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: definitive like right or wrong. It's just some people put 604 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: it over, some people put it under. And I'm like, 605 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: that's that's a line. We all we all do it somewhat. 606 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: So you picked you've picked a path. Yeah, we're a 607 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: fifty household. I'm not gonna spoil who goes which way 608 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: on it. But um, but every time that I noticed this, 609 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm reminded of the Simpsons episode where where they're written 610 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: up or Marge is written up for having it in 611 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: the underhanded fashion. Yes, yes, yeah, well, hey, someone someone's 612 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna make rules. Someone needs to make divisions. You got 613 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: you gotta exclude people somehow. I guess it's the natural 614 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: human feeling. Unfortunately. Alright, three three more things about this email. So, 615 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: first of all, The Seven Sins of Memory, How the 616 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: Mind Forgets and Remembers is a book by Daniel Shackter h. 617 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: This came out in two thousand and one, so bear 618 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: in mind it is over twenty years old now, so 619 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: I can't speak for how it's really holding up and 620 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: how it relates to more recent research in memory. But um, 621 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: I imagine it holds up pretty well, and I remember 622 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: it just being it's just really thought provoking content that 623 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: will really make you think more about how you remember 624 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: things and the different ways that the brain remembers things. So, um, yeah, 625 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: go go check that out if you're interested. Um. But 626 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: one of the things about something like nine eleven, the 627 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: question being like, well, what if you don't fully remember, 628 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel left out. Well, part of the answer 629 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: is your brain will fill in the blanks. Even those 630 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: of us who think we remember, we don't necessarily really 631 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: remember what was going on. Our brain creates some a 632 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: simulation of what what occurred. So you might think you 633 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: know what you're eating, you might think you know remember 634 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: what you were wearing. Uh, And in many cases you may. 635 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: It's not saying that no one has precise memories of this, 636 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: but the way memory works, it fills in the blanks, 637 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: and this is where we get the potential for strongly 638 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: held false memories about things. Oh and finally, yeah, the 639 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: idea of alien abduction and uh incubi and succubi and 640 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: so forth. Yeah. I I used to find these concepts 641 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: very frightening, Which is probably one of the reasons that 642 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: we've looked at them time and time again on the show, 643 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: is that exploring them logically kind of helped to understand 644 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: like why these concepts frightened me, especially when I was 645 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: a child, and then um, and then also sort of 646 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: making sure that the scary things stay in the realm 647 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: of fantasy for me. Uh so, Yeah, I totally, I 648 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: totally can relate to anyone who finds these concepts kind 649 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: of creepy. My big um. I guess anxiety about aliens 650 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: is this. I think we could all agree, probably for 651 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: the most part, that there is some sort of life 652 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: probably somewhere in the universe. Even if it's just like 653 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: a little amiba crawling in some dirt somewhere, there's probably 654 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: something somewhere, you know. I think I think both people 655 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: can agree on that, at least are the more advanced. 656 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: Who knows that's that's a whole other question. But the 657 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: potential for someone to arrive here at any points, it's 658 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: just on the table, you know, just just just at 659 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: some point some creature from another galaxy who has developed 660 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: space travel just like we have. You know, we've done it, 661 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: so why couldn't someone else could just arrive and it's 662 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: just like oh well, now what like just yeah, at 663 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: any point it's it's you know that that that that 664 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: door is right there, and someone could just come in 665 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: and just be like, hi, we've we've come now like 666 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: that's I think, I think that's that's part of the 667 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: anxiety some people have. It is just the the open 668 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: ended nature of of of alien contact. Oh yeah, absolutely, 669 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: and and new stuff will come out that that seems 670 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: to keep that door nice and cracked. How However, of course, 671 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: there are plenty of of people out there who want 672 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: to jump in and try and widen that crack as 673 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: much as possible, or discussed just how absurdly wide the 674 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: crack is when it isn't. But uh, I mean, that's 675 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: also part of fun of the discussion. As long as 676 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: you don't let it um inconvenient your life for the 677 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: lives of anyone around you. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Just remember 678 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: that speculation is fun, but facts are better, you know. Yeah, 679 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: all right, Well it's seen is that the mail bag 680 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: is empty at this point. Hopefully it will begin to 681 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: to fill back up. So yes, keep your thoughts coming 682 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: right in. We'd love to hear from you about past episodes, 683 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: uh way, past episodes, recent episodes, possible future episodes, weird 684 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: how cinema, artifact, monster fact, core episodes, or just responses 685 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: to other listener mails. All of that is fair game. 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