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Speaker 1: we're gonna be going through it. You're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: little taste of bold predictions with USA today. Steve Gardner

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite people on the planet. He is

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Speaker 1: of bold predictions. You're gonna get a big one, big

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Speaker 1: with one of my favorites. I actually wasn't my first,

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Speaker 1: We did bold predictions. I think we even did a

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Speaker 1: of it. So Joe Piezapia, myself and Steve Gardner with

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Speaker 1: some bold predictions for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Let's get gold, Let's go Fortune, Favors, the Bold and

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Speaker 2: the Favors Host Steve Gardner.

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Speaker 3: You're our guest, so let's let you go first. What's

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Speaker 3: a bold prediction? You have twenty twenty four MLB season.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's start in the American League. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: say your American League MVP for this season is one

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Speaker 4: Royce Lewis of the two wins.

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Speaker 5: How's that? I mean? I let's ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go bold.

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Speaker 4: You know all talking about if, if, if, And there's

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Speaker 4: Lewis has played parts of two MLB seasons. In those

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Speaker 4: And yes, you know urbis are context based type stat

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Speaker 4: So I think Royce Lewis can be a dark horse

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Speaker 2: Five category contributor. Royce Lowis is a guy that I've

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Speaker 2: this is a great opportunity. I've already bet the Twins

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mine's actually about probably one of the most polarizing

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Speaker 1: can get that if you go over to Betting Pros.

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Speaker 1: You can check out all of the markets and the bets.

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Speaker 1: I found it plus eight point fifty on Caesars right now.

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Speaker 1: ton of shows with Frank Stanfold from CBS came on

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Speaker 3: To talk about some potential breakouts.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with oneo Cruz, a player that's looked really

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Speaker 6: He's seven for twenty four, hitting two ninety two. He's

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Speaker 5: Thirty plus home runs, twenty plus deals.

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Speaker 6: would totally pay off where he's being drafted right now,

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Speaker 6: which is forty picks. Past Ellie de la Cruz. I

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Speaker 6: know a lot of people make the comp Ellie dey

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Speaker 6: la Cruz is upside is higher. I think most people

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Speaker 6: forty picks apart in EDP That's where I like to

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Speaker 1: Now, if you guys have followed me at all, you

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Speaker 1: You can catch over on FTN think some Rodaballer stuff.

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Speaker 3: Samaric Frosts. Welcome back, everybody here to Fantasy Best twenty

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Speaker 2: Is going to be with us in just a few

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Speaker 2: short days. Unbelievable speaking unbelievable, one of the best there

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Speaker 3: Look at him.

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Speaker 2: All he's doing is watching tape for you so he

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Speaker 3: Are you doing okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Baseball's on the way and happy to talk with two

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Speaker 1: Here with God Jill. Nothing more endearing than being like,

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Speaker 1: are you okay? You look horrible? A defensive thing ever, Like,

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Speaker 3: Here today it looks fine, he looks beautiful.

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Speaker 1: You look rested.

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Speaker 2: Because I've been following and everybody should be following him

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Speaker 2: by the way at Eric Cross, oh four, because it's

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Speaker 2: It's my favorite thing. Every morning I wake up and say,

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Speaker 2: And well she made sign I'm looking. I didn't realize

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went out for a walk today.

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Speaker 2: It's seventy degrees in New Jersey and you know me,

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Speaker 1: Maybybe you'll get it at the Arizona First Pitch Conference.

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Speaker 1: When I see you in six months or whatever, that's

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Speaker 2: Absolutely can't well, Eric Cross, We're going to get to

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Speaker 3: We're going to make an impact in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you out there, if you've got

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Speaker 2: Whatever it might be, you give us prospects, We're going

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Speaker 3: Who's going to be? Is it gonna be Jackson s Curio, Wyatt, Langford,

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Speaker 2: Jackson Curio was the guy that everybody is very excited about.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely got to wonder if the average is a little

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Speaker 7: bit lower than it will be Frank, Langford and Holiday,

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Speaker 7: because you know he's a little more aggressive than those

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Speaker 7: guys and maybe that gets exposed by major league pitching.

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Speaker 7: But even if he hits two fifty, and if you

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Speaker 7: can go twenty plus twenty plus right away, I think

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Speaker 7: he's going to be, you know, a very exciting player

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Speaker 7: and among many exciting players this year.

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Speaker 2: So two fifty twenty twenty, that sounds like a really

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Speaker 2: good season out of the gate. You think that's old

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Speaker 2: in his range?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 7: I mean I wouldn't you know, bet money on is

447
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Speaker 7: obviously prospects, even the top guys we've seen they've struggled,

448
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Speaker 7: but he definitely has that upside for sure. Like he's

449
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Speaker 7: shown that, he's shown the power, he's shown the speed

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Speaker 7: in athleticism, and you usually, you know, he starts a

451
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Speaker 7: little slower at every level, so maybe April, maybe he's

452
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Speaker 7: not coming out on fire. But this is the guy

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Speaker 7: that's always been made the adjustments eventually after he settles

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Speaker 7: in at a level and then you know, kind of

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Speaker 7: takes off from there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's definitely definitely possible.

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Speaker 2: All right, from one Jackson to another, from Maturio to Holiday.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan Jackson Holiday, but maybe no bigger

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Speaker 2: fan than the Welsh. The guy's got incredible hit tool.

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Speaker 2: He does have some pop there. I think he's still

461
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Speaker 2: more of a doubles hitter currently. I do think he'll

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Speaker 2: grow into that power. Welsh, you're very bullish on Jackson Holiday.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it because we expect him to be

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Speaker 2: also with the Big Club on opening Day. So what

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Speaker 2: does that mean not just for his Rookie of the

466
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Speaker 2: Year chances, but also for his fantasy value? Do you

467
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Speaker 2: think he's being drafted appropriately or too high or too low?

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Speaker 1: I think he's being drafted too low he has been.

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Speaker 1: He's actually my favorite rookie because of the cost. Jackson Churio,

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Speaker 1: he has kind of stabilized top one hundred. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about why it lang for top one hundred, Evan

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Speaker 1: Carter top one hundred. The guys that have the only

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Speaker 1: guy that hasn't moved that in theory has a spot

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Speaker 1: right now is Jackson Holliday cam and Arrow was going

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Speaker 1: in the two hundreds, but he's already been option. So

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Speaker 1: it is a funny thing. I want to point out

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Speaker 1: someone in the chat, I gotta say their name. I

478
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Speaker 1: might mess up.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They said, when targeting rookies a breakouts, how much do

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Speaker 1: yeah you see the name now? How much do you

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Speaker 1: saw before it?

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well I had a whole story I talked about you

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Speaker 1: remember the restaurant.

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Speaker 5: Fuck.

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Speaker 2: You definitely should not try to say this name. Yes,

489
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Speaker 2: anybody should avoid it, should be you.

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to avoid it. I just did it.

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Speaker 1: They said, how much do you target like prospects and

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Speaker 1: equating risk? So I'm trying to lead this into my

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Speaker 1: holiday thing. One interesting thing about Jackson Churio. That line

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Speaker 1: that you gave you know, that line sounds like that

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Speaker 1: two fifty twenty twenty sounds like Lane Thomas. That sounds

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Speaker 1: like Lane. That's Lane Thomas's number at a prospect, and Cheerio's

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Speaker 1: going two or three rounds higher. If that's where you

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Speaker 1: think he stabilizes. I think Cheerio does have a little

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Speaker 1: bit more like inherent risk. What makes Why at Langford

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Speaker 1: more more interesting than him? I'm drafting Langford over Turio.

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Speaker 1: It's that better play discipline, got to probably have more contact,

502
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Speaker 1: stolen bases, maybe a little bit less. So let's circle

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Speaker 1: this all back around Jackson Howd is my number one

504
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Speaker 1: prospect over Why at Langford. I know things are thrown

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Speaker 1: at me, but what I love about Jackson Holiday is

506
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Speaker 1: that patient approach, that contact based approach. The guy walked

507
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Speaker 1: over one hundred times in the minor leagues last year.

508
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Speaker 1: He moved four levels every single full season slate of

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Speaker 1: minor league levels he moved last year. I think that

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Speaker 1: you could see a Bobby Wit like season from Jackson

511
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Speaker 1: Holiday where he can steal thirty plus, he can go

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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty. Realistically, I'm viewing Jackson Holiday as like

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Speaker 1: a fifteen homer thirty plus stolen based guy. Who is

514
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Speaker 1: not going to strike out a bunch. He's going to

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Speaker 1: qualify at second and short because most places have him

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Speaker 1: at short and he's probably going to be playing second.

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Speaker 1: They already said he's going to move between, and his

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Speaker 1: contactability put him at the top of the lineup very

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Speaker 1: early on in the season. I like him because I

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Speaker 1: think the floor is higher than anybody except maybe White

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Speaker 1: Langford those two. The floor is uniquely special. So I

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Speaker 1: am all in on Jackson holiday. I want him on

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Speaker 1: the teams. I took him in the Dinger. I one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent took him there, not just playcating here. But

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Speaker 1: I think the floor is good enough for redraft that

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Speaker 1: it's a prospect I want to dive into. Because even

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Speaker 1: though I'm a prospect guy, I don't do a ton

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Speaker 1: of prospects in redraft because, like I said, we build

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Speaker 1: up the expectation and unless the cost makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense, usually they're performing it like you might be

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Speaker 1: like a lane Thomas level. I went nuts about Corbyn

532
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Speaker 1: Carrot last year because I thought the market was completely wrong,

533
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Speaker 1: and that was when I got right. I might be

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Speaker 1: wrong about some prospects this year. There's a handful of

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Speaker 1: good ones Holiday is gonna break camp with this team.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be in the middle endfield, and I think

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Speaker 1: he might have some of the best patients plate presence

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Speaker 1: among all these prospects, and that's what I think makes

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Speaker 1: him unique, and that's why I think he'll be so impactful.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna slide over to Scott Pianowski from Yahoo,

541
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Speaker 1: who is awesome. By the way, this is the only

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Speaker 1: person on this panel I had no relationship with. I

543
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Speaker 1: didn't know. I knew, of of course, but I had

544
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Speaker 1: never done a show with. I'm not sure if I

545
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Speaker 1: ever had really any conversations with. But as we talk about, like,

546
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Speaker 1: there's a funny anecdotal thing with it. I respect Scott

547
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Speaker 1: Pianowski and I was super excited. This is a tree

548
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Speaker 1: for me. I got to do a podcast with him,

549
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Speaker 1: and guess what, blew away expectations. He was fantastic. The

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Speaker 1: whole interview is great. Think you're gonna get a little

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Speaker 1: bit more of this than we've had on some so

552
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Speaker 1: strap in and make sure to go catch the entirety

553
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Speaker 1: of this, because Scott really was awesome. When we're talking

554
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Speaker 1: about bouncebacks, this is gonna be a heavy mic trout conversation,

555
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Speaker 1: because I think when you talk about bounce back in general,

556
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Speaker 1: he has to be in that conversation. The buy and

557
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Speaker 1: sell nature of should you be in or out on him,

558
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Speaker 1: that's important. Scott and I are going to go back

559
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Speaker 1: and forth a little bit on it, but here you

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Speaker 1: go a taste of it. Scott Pianowski from Yahoo on

561
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Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros Fantasy Fest, and I want to.

562
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Speaker 2: Start year with one of themes maybe the biggest divides

563
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Speaker 2: on the player.

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Speaker 3: It's Mike Traft.

565
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Speaker 2: Who has you know, once upon a time been a

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Speaker 2: guy that was Joe Draft at the very top, a

567
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Speaker 2: guy that has been the man in fantasy has won

568
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Speaker 2: people championships time and time again, but has also missed

569
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Speaker 2: significant time. The stolen bases have dropped off. We know

570
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Speaker 2: the story of where Mike Trout is. The question is, Scott,

571
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Speaker 2: has he fallen enough for you that you're interested in

572
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Speaker 2: drafting him or not far enough where the bounce back

573
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Speaker 2: makes sense to you In terms of twenty twenty four

574
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Speaker 2: draft capital.

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Speaker 8: Mike Trout is an easy fad for me. He's still

576
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Speaker 8: carrying top fifty ADP in Yahoo leagues.

577
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Speaker 1: And he shut down.

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Speaker 8: I know Ron Washington's talking like d he wants to

579
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Speaker 8: run like crazy, but Mike Trout has not stolen bases

580
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Speaker 8: in four years, strikeout rate is up, He's no longer

581
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Speaker 8: a guaranteed to be a plus average player.

582
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Speaker 5: And what are we getting? Eighty games?

583
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Speaker 8: One hundred games, one hundred and twenty games? And did

584
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Speaker 8: you know that the three players closest to him and

585
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Speaker 8: the Angels lineup as it's projected right now, have ADPs

586
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Speaker 8: outside the top five hundred. This is such a depressing roster.

587
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Speaker 8: They've tried things. They tried to sign Josh Hamilton, didn't

588
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Speaker 8: work out. They did sign Hamilton, he didn't work out.

589
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Speaker 8: Pool Hills had the back end of his career, which

590
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Speaker 8: was disappointing. Anthony Rendon is a sad song. I don't

591
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Speaker 8: think that's going to get any better, but we have to.

592
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Speaker 8: It's not just the stuff around Trout, it's Trout too.

593
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Speaker 8: He's not hitting fastballs with the same alacrity he used to.

594
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Speaker 8: Used to be anything, middle, middle, forget it. It's in

595
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Speaker 8: the seats. And now you can actually pitchers are not

596
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Speaker 8: afraid to challenge Mike Trout anymore. Age thirty two season,

597
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Speaker 8: isn't interesting that the player you talked about that Great

598
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Speaker 8: eighty six class.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, Mike.

600
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Speaker 8: Trout and Bryce Harper are going to be linked for

601
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Speaker 8: their entire careers. They came up around the same time,

602
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Speaker 8: and Trout had the first decade went to Trout. Harper

603
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Speaker 8: wasn't bad by any means, and he's won a couple

604
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Speaker 8: of m vps, but Mike Trout was the signature player

605
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Speaker 8: in baseball. Isn't it interesting that Bryce Harper is set

606
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Speaker 8: to crush Mike Trout. I think in the second half

607
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Speaker 8: of their careers, his type of playing style and his

608
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Speaker 8: bat is aging really well. He's obviously in a much

609
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Speaker 8: better lineup, which helps. But Trout had the better first

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Speaker 8: half of their careers. I wouldn't be surprised if by

611
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Speaker 8: the time their careers are over. If we're looking at

612
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Speaker 8: Bryce Harper as having all these great plateaus and milestones,

613
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Speaker 8: and obviously he has signature moments in the playoffs, Mike

614
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Speaker 8: Trout has three playoff games. That's not Trout's fault. But

615
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Speaker 8: my takeaway here is top fifty pick and yeahoo, I

616
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Speaker 8: am completely out on my way.

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Speaker 3: No Scott.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, we had a big conversation

619
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Speaker 2: and I made a statement and I honest say, I

620
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Speaker 2: took heat for it, but I think it's surprized a

621
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Speaker 2: lot of people. Where Jazz Chisholm is going right next

622
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Speaker 2: to him in ADP and I said, I think I'd

623
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Speaker 2: rather take a chance on the younger guy who is

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Speaker 2: even if he plays again just like Trout ninety games,

625
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Speaker 2: I feel better about him giving me twenty steals and

626
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Speaker 2: twenty homers necessarily the batting average. You know, we could

627
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Speaker 2: talk about the divide there. But would you take Chisholm

628
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Speaker 2: over Trout too or is chishom the guy you fade too?

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Speaker 5: I think I would.

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, the chisham right, he's not going

631
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Speaker 8: to McDonald's anymore, So you got that to hang your

632
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Speaker 8: hat on. You know, I wish that would solve on

633
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Speaker 8: my problems if I just stopped going to McDonald's.

634
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Speaker 3: But has heard that.

635
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: You know, Nolan Gorman is changed his diet and now

636
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Speaker 2: it's it's solved as back issue. So apparently there's all

637
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Speaker 2: kinds of things going.

638
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 8: The problem is the McDonald's app is so easy to use.

639
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Speaker 1: But anyway, what I wasn't feeling well and I ordered

640
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Speaker 1: to mcgredel mcgredel, oh they saw was beautiful plus a

641
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Speaker 1: fountain die Coke is a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 8: But here's the thing with Chisholm, it's really simple concept.

643
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Speaker 8: I want players on the front nine. I want players

644
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Speaker 8: with the arrow pointing upward, players who haven't had their

645
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 8: best season yet. If chisham kid and even if he gets,

646
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Speaker 8: give him a month off. Okay, give him one hundred

647
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Speaker 8: and twenty five, one hundred and thirty games. I think

648
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 8: Chisholm could steal fifty bases. I'll give you Mike Trout

649
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Speaker 8: stolen based projection too. Oh wow, And that's because I

650
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 8: like Ron Washington's and Ron Washington will tell you it's

651
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Speaker 8: incredibly hard, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Was gonna double last year's productivities. But you're telling me.

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Speaker 1: You know what's so funny? We were saying off air,

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Speaker 1: I'd never had a chance to have never amazingly that

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Speaker 1: a podcast with Scott. And I was like, but I

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Speaker 1: know you, Scott, because you like all my drafts. But

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Speaker 1: drafts by not taking Mike Trout take that trying to

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Speaker 1: do in the draft Wizard and trying to do that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny with the Trout thing. I like

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Speaker 1: cards or like autograph stuff like that, and there's these

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Speaker 1: did one the other day and they're like, all right,

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Speaker 1: here's this card and it's got Albert poolh Holes, show

666
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Speaker 1: Heyotani and Mike Trout and it's like you have to

667
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Speaker 1: get rid of one. And I see those and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: get out of my face. I don't want to read that.

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Speaker 1: And then I thought about it for a second and

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Speaker 1: it got me and I was like, it might be

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Speaker 1: Mike Drout, Like if I had to get rid of

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Speaker 1: one of the This is a completely non sequitor. But

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Speaker 1: it's like you had pool Holes, Otani and Trout on

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Speaker 1: something you had to get rid of one. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I could get rid of Otani or pool Holes.

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Speaker 1: And that's what kind of stinks about the perception of Trout,

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Speaker 1: whether it's been players failing around him, his kind of

678
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Speaker 1: overall production declining. My only problem with it is like

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Speaker 1: it is the cheapest you've ever been able to invest

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Speaker 1: in him. Obviously, the bigger question is like what is

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Speaker 1: it going to take for him to be able to

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Speaker 1: recoup that value. To me, it's not built around stolen bases.

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Speaker 1: The stolen base argument, it's kind of gone from my head.

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Speaker 1: If I get anything from him, I'm like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: I'm playing Mike out for big time homers, big time runs,

686
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Speaker 1: big time RBIs. I'm a buyer of zach Netto and

687
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Speaker 1: Luis from Defo this year, so they are like kind

688
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Speaker 1: of garbage players around.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm a buyer of Brandon Drury. I keep talking.

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Speaker 5: I'm a guy too. I like and Rinifo.

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Speaker 8: You know, they qualified three or four positions and yeahoo

692
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Speaker 8: you can go position with exactly. I'm with you on

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Speaker 8: that for sure.

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Speaker 1: They're super sneaky. But so I guess I come back

695
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Speaker 1: to it is I haven't already set any perception of

696
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Speaker 1: stolen bases into it. So it's like it's cheapest cost

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Speaker 1: ever for a hitter that is two years removed from

698
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Speaker 1: hitting forty homers. There are warning signs. The strikeout rate

699
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Speaker 1: is exceptionally concerning, but it's still an over fifty percent

700
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Speaker 1: hard hit rate. He's still walking double digit percentage of

701
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Speaker 1: the time. He has to stay healthy. It's kind of

702
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Speaker 1: make or break, So I think like I try to

703
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Speaker 1: be pragmatic about it, like you could just be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm done in fading what his upside is kind of

705
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Speaker 1: waned a tiny bit, but there's a part of me

706
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Speaker 1: that goes his ADP. If you go run Fantasy Pros,

707
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Speaker 1: you will actually see it's inside the top fifty of Yahoo.

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Speaker 1: Great thing on Fantasy Pros. You can see all the

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Speaker 1: down when I get value on Mike Trout. I do

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Speaker 1: think the possibility still exists. It's it's a better it's

712
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Speaker 1: an over fifty percent chance that we could get thirty

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Speaker 1: five plus homers, we could get ninety plus runs, we

714
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Speaker 1: could get ninety plus RBIs, and the batting average could

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Speaker 1: be two sixty plus. So by virtue of that and

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Speaker 1: knowing his past trajectory, I'm comfortable taking him past fifty.

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Speaker 1: Here's been the only little garbage thing that happens. This

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Speaker 1: eighty and I've been seeing Mike Trout creep, creep, creep.

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Speaker 1: He's creeped up into the thirties and that's what I'm

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Speaker 1: becoming less comfortable, so I buy back in like I'll

723
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Speaker 1: be willing to buy where Scott's fading. But there's a

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Speaker 1: middle where I think we're going to agree because you

725
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Speaker 1: start poking up a little bit the variance of like

726
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Speaker 1: what he has to do versus what he will do.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of small, and he's a tricky one. He's

728
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Speaker 8: I want to throw one more thing out about Trout

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Speaker 8: the player. I'm afraid he might emulate in his thirties

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Speaker 8: and Griffy Junior, who was a monster in his twenty

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Speaker 8: I mean Ken Griffy Junior made the All Century team

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737
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Speaker 8: seeing the Ken Griffy Junior thirties show over again, and

738
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Speaker 8: it has me kind of nervous.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking statistically too of Mike Trout comps, and

740
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Speaker 2: it's funny because right now the windows looking a lot

741
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Speaker 2: more Ryan Braun, Albert Bell, Mike Trout than it is

742
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743
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744
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Speaker 1: Scott's coming on the company trip next year. That's let's

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 3: Not so much. We're gonna still do those names.

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Speaker 5: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: nitty gritty. Let's talk about some pitchers who can break

877
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: out in twenty twenty four. Before we get some guys

878
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: on our list, I want to know if there's a

879
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: name that you are just all in ready to go,

880
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: locked and loaded.

881
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four. Damn the adp Ino Sarahs is going

882
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: to have.

883
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: Share it might be this first guy. To be honest

884
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: with you, well, Bobby Miller is the.

885
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: First guy on our list, but I don't know if

886
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: that's the first guy.

887
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, I love Bobby Miller. You know, what I

888
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 9: have been finding is that I want three hitters in

889
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 9: a row in drafts, and that has led me to

890
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 9: a lot of bills with Bobby Miller because I want

891
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 9: to have two of the better, you know, fifteen to

892
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 9: twenties if I'm going to be passing on those first

893
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 9: ten starting pitchers. So yeah, I love Bobby Miller. I

894
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 9: did think he has the full Arsenal v Low, great

895
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 9: team backing him. One question is how many innings he'll get.

896
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 9: The Dodgers kind of do like a like a secret

897
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 9: six man rotation thing where everybody gets extra rest. But

898
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 9: you know, he's the one one of the few guys

899
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 9: on that team that is ready to go for innings,

900
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 9: I think, And so I think you get to a

901
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 9: hunter sixty or so, and how much more you expect

902
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 9: these days anyway, So do you think.

903
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: He could be the number one in innings? I know

904
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: this seems weird on that team, but like I think

905
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people are projecting Yamamoto to kind of

906
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: be pushed back walker Buehler's dealing with the thing. I mean,

907
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: do you think like Bobby could end up being one

908
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: or two in innings on this team?

909
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 9: I mean, you know who led him last year was

910
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 9: Clayton Kershaw with one hundred and thirty, So I can't

911
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 9: imagine can you imagine?

912
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: That is a depressing thought there?

913
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: But you know, Bobby Miller is I guess, arguably the

914
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: best return on investment of any of these guys, right,

915
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, I think that's maybe the bigger point of

916
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: view from a fancy perspective.

917
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 9: Well, I've been splitting the difference between him and Grayson

918
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 9: Rodriguez and just getting kind of half and half shares

919
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 9: of those two. Sometimes I would just let the room

920
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 9: decide which one I get. But both of those guys

921
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 9: are going as like high number twos, And if you're

922
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 9: gonna get a low number one, you get to get

923
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 9: a high number two.

924
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of how I see.

925
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: Them, all right, let's get to one of your guys here, Welshit.

926
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: We've talked about quite a bit, Cole Reagan's of the

927
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: Kansas City Royals. Reagan's has been a guy that we

928
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: have talked a lot about. It's a very trendy name.

929
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: The ADP has risen a bit, though, So that's one

930
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: thing to keep in mind is every single draft season,

931
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: the fantasy baseball community gets onto a player, gets excited

932
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: about a player, and then that player goes from being

933
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: a value to being not so much of value. So

934
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: he's crack the top one hundred overall now is at

935
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: ninety seven. But again it's not a crazy jump so

936
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: far for him.

937
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to get ENO's take on it, like,

938
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: definitely don't call Cole Reagan's my guy, like I have

939
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: him high. But this is you know, this is Pollock

940
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: and plenty of other people. But what I think is

941
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: interesting about Reagans is I think Reagan's is the most

942
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: deceptive draft prep picture of all of them, because I

943
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: don't think anything is representative of where he goes. You

944
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: just said it our own ADP, any site specific ADP

945
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: and aggregate ADP. I just don't think it really tells

946
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: you the story. If you think you can kind of

947
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: game plan, you're like, all right, well, I'm gonna get

948
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: Cole Reagans because he's like the twenty eighth pitcher or

949
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: something like that, or he's the thirtieth pitcher. No, because

950
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: Cole Reagan's is so polarized. He's had a great spring.

951
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: The fastball looks as a dynamic as ever. We've seen

952
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: what this looked like last year in a smaller ish stint,

953
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: and everything is carried over and it looks projectable to

954
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: go over bigger innings. So wherever you think you're going

955
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: to get him, somebody's going to do something I say, irrational.

956
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be negative about it. They're going

957
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: to do something that is not of the norm. He's

958
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: going to go way higher. So he's the most deceptive

959
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: pitcher in my mind, in his variance of going ninetieth

960
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: overall to fiftieth overall. You know, do you agree with

961
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: that assessment and should we agree that Cole Reagans really

962
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: can have that upside of being a top fifteen overall

963
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: sp Yeah.

964
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 9: I mean, the only shares I actually have of him

965
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 9: are from last year in my keeper leagues you know,

966
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 9: I picked him up full sale last year as soon

967
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 9: as I saw those stuff changes this year. I agree

968
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 9: with you, man, Chris, Like every draft I've been in,

969
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 9: I've been like, oh, is it almost no?

970
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: There he goes, it's getting close to Reagan's time, and

971
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: it's gone.

972
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 9: It's gone, And I you know, I pushed him. I

973
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 9: have him in my top twenty five. I feel like

974
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 9: that's a good place for him. It's higher than my

975
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 9: projections say I should have him. It's right around some

976
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 9: plitchers I really liked, like Joe Musgrove and Dylan Ceese. Like,

977
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 9: I don't know that I'm going to push him all

978
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 9: the way up to Bobby Miller, Freddy Peralta, Grayson Rodriguez territory,

979
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 9: which is the back end of the top twenty. So

980
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 9: I don't I've done. I'm done pushing him, and he

981
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 9: just keeps getting pushed by the room.

982
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: So you mentioned Freddy PERALTI you know, that's one of

983
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: my guys that I keep saying. You know, if something

984
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: happens to Strider, he becomes a fascinating wager, potentially to league,

985
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: the National League in strikeouts. I have the share of it,

986
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: just because you know, the way pitchers drop like flies.

987
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: It's not an impossibility. Is Paralta guy for you that

988
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: you're on? Because I keep saying that I'm comfortable with

989
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: him as a potential fantasy ace because frankly, I like

990
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: to hit those offensive players early in my drafts, and

991
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: Paralta is one of those guys that tends to be

992
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: around in ADP. Do you see par aalto the same

993
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: way or are you more concerned that he doesn't have

994
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: the innings potential of maybe some other guys.

995
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've got him down for one hundred and sixty

996
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 9: five innings. There's a little bit of a drop from

997
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 9: the biggest studs. But Garrett Cole was that, you know,

998
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 9: you had him down for one hundred and eighty five

999
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 9: innings at least, and there those go. So I expect

1000
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 9: a little bit less out of my pictures every year.

1001
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 9: And I just did the TGFBI draft and my two

1002
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 9: starting pitchers there, My first two starting pitchers are Freddy

1003
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 9: Peralta and Grace Rodriguez. That's the kind of you know,

1004
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 9: back end number two's like the high number two's back

1005
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 9: end number ones that I'm trying to pair.

1006
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: If I do the hitting up top, and I've been

1007
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: doing that same kind of thing.

1008
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: I feel like that's that's where I've been living to

1009
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: I want to get your take on Reagan's too. Here

1010
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: are the projections I'm looking right now over on Fangrafts.

1011
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: We can look at the ATC ones one hundred and

1012
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: sixty innings for him. They're putting him at a again

1013
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: nine point six k per nine, which is, you know,

1014
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: a little bit below what he was at last year.

1015
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: Do you think that's fair?

1016
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: Do you think that's kind of what you're looking for

1017
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: in terms of the three eight nine era? Does that

1018
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: feel like Reagan's for you, you know mine?

1019
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: Or higher than that? I don't know why.

1020
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 9: It's like every once in a while I get a

1021
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 9: projection out of my own system, like what is going

1022
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 9: on here? But you know, one thing that's interesting about

1023
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 9: Reagan's is his stuff is even better the spring. So

1024
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 9: you know what we get the reports that we get

1025
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 9: are not full. You know, we don't get complete stat

1026
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 9: cast on everybody, but from him, we were hearing better

1027
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 9: vertical movement, better velo should make the whole thing even

1028
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 9: better than it was last year. And what we saw

1029
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 9: honestly over the course of last year as it got better,

1030
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 9: like at least Velow wise, it kept getting better and

1031
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 9: better as the season went on.

1032
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

1033
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 9: I think that it's likely the projections are off. But

1034
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 9: if you if you push him and you fall in

1035
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 9: love with him too much and he's like your ace

1036
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 9: or something, then that's weird too.

1037
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: I think, you know, also, we had I'm actually just

1038
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: pulling this up as we were talking yesterday that the

1039
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: the goofy thing about spring training, especially out here in Arizona,

1040
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: is they don't all have stack cast data and it's

1041
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: super frustrating. The only place that does is Salt River Fields,

1042
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: where Cole Reagan's was yesterday and pitched, and just to

1043
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: give some people insight, fastball on average was up almost

1044
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: a mile per hour uptick, change up was up, the

1045
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: cutter was up a mile and a half over spin

1046
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: down just a tiny bit, but vlo across the board

1047
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: up he had twenty he had a twenty three percent

1048
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: with he had the numbers are pretty ridiculous. A fifty

1049
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: percent swing and withiff rate on the change up CSW

1050
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: is actually a little bit lower twenty five percent overall,

1051
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: but overall upticks from Salt River Fields on his data

1052
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: to kind of speak to what you know, was saying

1053
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: that things are moving up, maybe kind of like an

1054
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: afterthought in a lot of the draft processes, what do

1055
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: you do with your bench? You know, obviously you could

1056
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: just go and just figure it out, Oh, just draft

1057
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: some players. But there is a strategy and we're going

1058
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: to talk about that building the Perfect Bench with Chris

1059
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: Towers from CBS. Chris's analytical nature to really everything made

1060
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: him the perfect person to do this, anecdotally, the perfect

1061
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: person to get in not only talk about the structural

1062
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: pieces of it, like how many pictures to how many hitters,

1063
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: but we even talk about who are those names. You're

1064
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna get a taste of what it looks like as

1065
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: far as upside versus production, starting pitchers versus hitters, and

1066
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: we go into deeper names on the full episode. So

1067
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: this is like the last half an hour going into

1068
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: the fourth hour. So this is two and a half

1069
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: hours into the fan fest. If you're not looking at

1070
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: the playlist, this is how this bad Boy ends up.

1071
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: So let's go talk to Chris Towers, Joe myself talking

1072
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: about building that bench.

1073
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to building the Perfect bench. Gentlemen, Welsh,

1074
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: why don't you take it from here. I'm gonna set

1075
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: you up and let you grill Chris Towers about how

1076
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: he builds his bench.

1077
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so four major questions we're going to tackle before

1078
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: we actually talk about names. And if people want, they

1079
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: can drop some of their favorite bench names in the chat,

1080
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: or if you've got questions about would this be a

1081
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Speaker 1: great one, please do? Towers's got a bunch of great ones.

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Speaker 1: Here are the four points I think that are important

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Speaker 1: to talk about with a bench. First, positional balance, hitters pictures.

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Speaker 1: What does that look like in your construction? Do you

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Speaker 1: even care about that balance? Positional as far as like

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Speaker 1: I gotta have one outfielder, one type of infielder, and

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Speaker 1: what is the balance of pitchers versus hitters?

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Speaker 10: I think it depends on what your approach tends to

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Speaker 10: be during the regular portion of the draft, right Like

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Speaker 10: for me, I tend to take two pictures within my

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Speaker 10: first five rounds. Then I kind of ignore the position

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Speaker 10: until the double digit rounds, and then I take a

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Speaker 10: bunch of upside guys in you know, twelve through twenty three.

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Speaker 10: And so when I do that, I do tend to

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Speaker 10: want to focus more on pitchers, and I tend to,

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Speaker 10: you know, if we're talking six bench spots.

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Speaker 5: I usually go four pitchers, two hitters.

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Speaker 10: You know, obviously it depends what I did before that,

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Speaker 10: because sometimes i'll take you know, I'll wait a while

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Speaker 10: to get my utility and i'll feel a little weak

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Speaker 10: about some of my bench bet or my my starting bats.

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Speaker 10: Then I'll focus a little more. But it's almost never

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Speaker 10: four hitters two pictures. It's usually at least three three,

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Speaker 10: generally four pitchers two hitters, just because you want as

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Speaker 10: many bites at the apple for starting pitcher as possible.

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Speaker 10: I think that's the biggest and relief picture too. You know,

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Speaker 10: if if I'm taking Mason Miller or Robert Stevenson or

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Speaker 10: or whoever who isn't actually a closer, you know, then

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Speaker 10: I want multiple opportunities to get a guy who becomes

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Speaker 10: the the guy.

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Speaker 1: So and that leads into part two is speculative saves.

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Speaker 1: Let's say in your you've gotten two closers, maybe you

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Speaker 1: have a third is and what does it look like

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Speaker 1: to put a speculative save on the pitch. It's very

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Speaker 1: different in drafting hold when we're doing you know, these

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Speaker 1: fifty teams and it's I'm doing I'm left and right,

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Speaker 1: I'm going crazy. But like, let's say, like a mat

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Speaker 1: there was a time where I thought Matt Brash was

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Speaker 1: actually going to take the job away from and Andres

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Speaker 1: Munio's injury has been a little bit of a problem.

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Speaker 1: He's been out in camp, though I think he can

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Speaker 1: be back a lot sooner. A guy sitting like that,

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Speaker 1: are you willing to put a speculator and what's the

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Speaker 1: percentile of you putting a speculative save on the bench

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Speaker 1: in one of those pitching spots I would see.

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Speaker 10: I would say it usually happens. If Mason Miller falls

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Speaker 10: far enough, he's gonna be that guy. Although now I

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Speaker 10: think he's probably getting pushed out of the reserve round range.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 10: I think last week when I was looking at him

1131
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Speaker 10: as adp was like two fifty, I would assume it's

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Speaker 10: only gone up from there. And so, yeah, there there

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Speaker 10: are a handful of guys. A Ryan Kirkering is another

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Speaker 10: one where we don't really know who the Phillies' closer is.

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Speaker 10: It could be him. He could be a lights out option.

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Speaker 10: So there are definitely opportunities for speculative saves. Hector Naris

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Speaker 10: being one of them. David Robertson a rold As Chapman

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Speaker 10: right now. Actually, I'm not even sure he should be

1139
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Speaker 10: a reserve round. He might just be someone that you

1140
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 10: kind of have to take twenty second round just in case.

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Speaker 10: David Bednard's not ready for the season, so.

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Speaker 3: You're saying you you would grab him later.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Amy, Go check it story of all this

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Speaker 10: Chapman this morning, I.

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Speaker 2: Did not well Chris Towers at some point live here.

1146
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: I'd like you to google that, and I'd like you

1147
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Speaker 2: to watch it so you can get your live listen Chris.

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Speaker 1: The whole story, the whole story is a handful.

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Speaker 3: So I just just Chris Towers. I want you to

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Speaker 3: google it. I want your live reaction. I'm sure you

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Speaker 3: can find on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: I did a nice still up. Is this something that's

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Speaker 5: been deleted?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I would. I would just

1155
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Speaker 3: google a role as Chapman, uh story.

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Speaker 2: And that's how I felt, because he was trending, and

1157
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: then all I saw was the reactions to why and

1158
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Speaker 2: people telling me not to watch it, which of course

1159
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: only made me want to watch it more. While you

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Speaker 2: googling that, I wanted to ask you about Mason Miller,

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Speaker 2: who you mentioned. I keep saying that the best way

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Speaker 2: for the A's to manage him, to keep him healthy

1163
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Speaker 2: is to make him the closer and roll with him.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to be saving back to games. You're

1165
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Speaker 2: the open A's, you're not gonna win that many games.

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Speaker 2: And on top of which, give this guy clean innings,

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Speaker 2: let him know exactly how he's preparing. You don't want

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Speaker 2: him up and down a million times. To me, that

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00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: is the way to go with Mason Miller. Do you

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Speaker 2: agree that that should be his path in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four with Oakland?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there was a quote.

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Speaker 10: I think from the manager like two weeks ago, something

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Speaker 10: like he's not going to be the closer right away, right.

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Speaker 10: We want to ease him in. We want to give him,

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00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 10: you know, a two inning opportunity here and there and

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Speaker 10: make sure that he's comfortable. The way I look at that, though,

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Speaker 10: is the other options in that bullpen are so underwhelming,

1179
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Speaker 10: and he has the potential to be so overwhelmingly dominant

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00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 10: in a short role that I kind of think it's

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00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 10: not going to take very long, and absolutely like he

1182
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 10: is not someone given his history of injuries. I think

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Speaker 10: he he has thrown seventy two point two innings as

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00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 10: a professional if you include every level of the miners,

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Speaker 10: what he did at the majors, and I think you

1186
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 10: have to include the Arizona Fall League last year to

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Speaker 10: get him there. And that's over the course of three seasons.

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00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 10: So that's that's a lot of injury track record for

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Speaker 10: a guy who also dealt with forearm injuries last year.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I don't think he's someone that you want

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Speaker 10: in a fireman role, certainly where.

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Speaker 5: He's got to get up immediately.

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Speaker 10: I think having a hey, this is when you pitch,

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00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 10: you're gonna be in that role, I think is probably

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Speaker 10: the best way to use him. But in those seventy

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Speaker 10: two and two thirds innings, he's starting as a professional,

1197
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 10: one hundred and seven strikeouts, a thirty eight percent strikeout rate.

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Speaker 10: He's staring like one hundred and three miles per hour

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Speaker 10: in spring training. That's not an exaggeration. I really think

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Speaker 10: Mason Miller, there's risk of injuries for sure. I think

1201
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Speaker 10: he could just be the best closer in baseball. I

1202
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 10: think he has that kind of talent. I think we

1203
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 10: could be talking about like a Craig kimberl at his

1204
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 10: best type of pitcher here.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's hard to focus.

1206
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: Is very funny.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I have one more, but Towers, have you

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Speaker 1: found I have not.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna look it up right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, last question. Don't give him this

1211
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: stick by the way, has a great comment here. You

1212
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: should stay abreast of the year oldest Chapman situation.

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Speaker 3: Is basically what.

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Speaker 5: This is what happens.

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1218
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: Towers? Found it?

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Speaker 5: Towers definitely filming.

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Speaker 1: That was his own Instagram. That was on his Instagram.

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Speaker 1: best of the Fantasy Fest. I am looking forward to

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Speaker 1: talking and seeing you all during leading off, and good

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Speaker 1: luck in your drafts these coming weekends. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon right here on the Fantasy Pros MLB Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Baseball Podcast. I'm Welsh. Goodbye for now friends, piece

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Speaker 5: To the d