WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Moral Victory? 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:16.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.279 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:28.720 Star In Preschool, flowing to the gold Line, says and 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:33.880 now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:40.520 and Kyle Yeoman's it's a Monday edition of Talking Cowboys 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.480 here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios and the Cowboys 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.480 coming off what was a bit of a heartbreaker last 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.680 night against the Pittsburgh Steelers, leading by ten heading into 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.840 the fourth quarter, but they couldn't hold off the charge 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.640 from now the eight and O Pittsburgh Steelers fifteen unanswered 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:04.680 fourth quarter points down the Cowboys and disproved I guess 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.639 disimproved their record to two and seven on the twenty 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.720 twenty campaign. Two and seven's no fun, no matter what, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.760 it's really not fun at all. But we're gonna talk 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.800 about some of the positives, and absolutely we're gonna talk 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.399 about some of the negatives for the Cowboys yesterday and 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.840 the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. But first let me 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:28.280 introduce everybody. Isaiah stand Back, Rob Phillips, heck Harrison, I'm 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.840 Kyle Yeoman's and guys, there's a lot to unpack in 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.840 this one. You've got really probably the best effort of 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.759 the year out of all three phases. Probably your best 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.720 offensive game since Dak Prescott was hurt. You had the 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.559 best defensive outing that I think you've had all season long. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.840 Same thing with special teams who actually almost won you 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.960 the game on a couple different occasions. But ultimately there's 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.800 a lot to get into. Rob. You were the one 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.800 that was actually in the building. What were your thoughts 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:00.680 yesterday and what stuck out to you? Well, I want 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.200 to throw something out to the panel to my guys, 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.120 tell me if I'm being too optimistic about Sunday. Okay, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.880 where you guys like this? Where do you guys stand 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:19.360 on moral victories in professional football? Oh? That's um man. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:24.640 I think moral victories are softer than baby poop. I mean, 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.560 I think, I mean, if you're just looking forward at this, 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:34.360 I think I think my answer. You're paying guys to 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.360 do a job, and I understand that. You know, the 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.800 narrative on the football scene is the sixteen games, and 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.800 it's long, but you know there are sometimes where you 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.880 could say I guess in my in my in my marriage, 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.880 I have moral victories, but I don't see any moral 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.440 I don't. I don't know. That's the only way I 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.520 could look at that. I just I never have thought 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.200 that there was a place for moral victories in football. Okay, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:03.240 softer than baby Poop wrote that down. That's pretty soft, uh, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.720 and more moral victories? No, Um, Can you take things 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.840 from this game and be inspired by them going into 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.040 your bye week and preparing for the second half of 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.400 your season. Yes, on paper, you're not supposed to be 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.400 in the ball game with those guys. You just you 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.560 just not, Um, the way those guys have been playing, 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.960 the way we've been playing, you're not, regardless of your 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:27.520 professionals or not, that's a better team right now, just period, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.000 point blank. Um. You could say, you know, they got professions, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.400 We got professions all day long, but they're just better. Um. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.520 But there are a lot of positives that came from 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.280 this game, as you mentioned, a ton of positives, and 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.040 you and you take those positives along with the negatives, 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.880 right and you you you you analyze them, you self 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.000 critique them. Um, you face them face to face, and 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:48.760 then you say, guess what this is where we did 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.560 good and we need to continue to do this well 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.960 and this is where we have to get better going forward. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.640 But morally nah, because because as a competitor, you want 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.680 to win that game. But in terms of when you 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.480 break it down and you know, analytics and all the 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.080 other aspects of the game, yeah, you should feel good 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.320 about the direction that you're going in. Yeah, Zeke said 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.839 after the game. There's no moral victories, and so I'll 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.920 go with you guys on that. But I do feel 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.360 like based on the bar that has been set through 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.800 the first two months, given all the injuries and just 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:23.159 given the lack of production, it's not a victory. And look, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.359 the first the first season I ever covered the Cowboys 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.360 was Bill Parcels's first year n O three, and he's 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.720 famous for saying you are what your record says you are. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.359 They're two and seven. It's a bad season, there's no 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.600 way around it. It's another loss. But I do think 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.279 in a way it was a victory for Mike McCarthy's program. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.680 Kind of to your point, Isaiah, that going into the 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.159 bye week, they can say, look, we are getting better, 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.679 there's signs of progress. We're staying the course, We're trying 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.360 to introduce these new things. We just went toe to 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.560 toe with the best team in the league by record, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.640 with our fourth quarterback of the season. That is at 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.920 least day sign of progress, even though they lost the game, 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.320 and it's it's obviously another you know, bad feeling going 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.440 into a Monday Now. I like that. I really do 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.680 rob it. And you know, moral victories aside. I just 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.720 think you saw a spark from this total team. We 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.320 talked about if there was gonna be any victory for 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.560 this team, it was going to be in all three phases, 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.600 and you saw more from all three phases. I mean 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.360 special teams Rico down or where you've been my whole life, bro, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.159 I mean just everything that we saw. It's just we 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.599 were not able to convert. And man, there was a 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.000 couple of times where terrible towels made it down to 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.040 the field and we're mistaken for flags that cost us. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.039 But I'm sure we'll talk about that also. But it 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:44.640 was a lot of a lot of things to be 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.680 I guess to be happy about as a Cowboy fan. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:53.640 Man Neville Gallimore, the third round pick, come on with it. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.720 I like that. I mean Neville Gallimore, he made a 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:02.160 bleep on the radar and Randy Gregory Man. Randy Gregory Man, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.120 I'm gonna put him on my prayer list because this 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.920 guy is playing lights out. He's doing a great job 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.840 as far as getting to the quarterback, applying that pressure 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.720 not only on the past but also in the run. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.440 There's so much to be proud of from a defensive 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.960 standpoint them uh not allowing three hundred, two hundred yard 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:26.800 rusher this game. Historically the defense has been so bad 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.520 that you just needed to see something passing game. I know, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.480 we're look, there's a lot to talk about as far 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.240 as the passing game is concerned, but you know, look, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.279 I just I just want to see a sign of life, 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:44.320 and I think I saw it this Sunday is sah yeah, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.000 I mean yeah, Hector's hit it. I mean, like I 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.880 alluded to already. Man, there's there's a lot of positives 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.719 to take away from this game, especially in the situation 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.240 that you're in as an organization. Um, they'll be they'll 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.680 be okay, they'll be okay. Things are not okay right now, 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.200 but this game, you know again, you know you got 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.760 a team, you thought a team was Danny, you heard 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:07.599 a little back a little bit. You know, there is 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.800 some life. Um, there's some life. So I think I 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.440 think there'll be okay going to second half of the season. No, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.520 what did what did Isaiah do? Last night? Y'all not 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.560 telling Hey, what did you do? Heckma, heckma. We're gonna 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.680 wait until the second segment for this. We're gonna we're 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.720 gonna continue the second segment for this. So we're gonna 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.520 chill for a second. And I want to kind of 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.520 go off of what Robins said, and rob brought it 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.120 up saying that that you did. You went toe to 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.280 toe with the best team in the league right now, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:39.280 at least record wise, with your fourth string quarterback. So yeah, no, no, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.040 moral victories aren't necessarily a thing, but the bar is 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.400 starting to rise, and you're starting to see a turn 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.280 of the corner, because what were we talking about four 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.040 weeks ago, three weeks ago even, was the fact that 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.880 this coaching staff was losing track, It was losing the 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.680 locker room, it was unraveling a little bit whenever you 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.600 came to the blowout loss against the Cardinals, and then 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.239 you got blown out again twenty five to three against 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.160 the Washington football team a week later, you were saying, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.600 what is happening in Dallas because Mike McCarthy apparently doesn't 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.240 have a hold on this ball club. We now see 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.120 he does have a hold, and they're starting to bring energy. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.640 They're starting to look like a real football team again. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.320 They're starting to feel like the Cowboys that we anticipated 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.880 to see, except we just have a ton of injuries 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.160 mixed in there as well, and they're just not the 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.360 personnel that we thought they were going to be. But 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.560 the energy and the improvement has been there, Isaiah, and 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.720 that's something that I think you can look forward to 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:41.160 going into the byeweek. Absolutely, I want to tip my 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.720 hat off to all three coordinators, offensive, defensive, and special team. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.880 They all they all brought their eight game and so 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.760 many times they get overlooked on the positive end of things, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.480 a lot of times they get a lot of the scrutiny. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.320 I mean, they've had their fair share from all of 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.920 us this year. But this game they came to play. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.319 You know, we challenged Kellen Moore in terms of his 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.320 last game. Is said that he had a failing grade. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.160 At least I said it. He had a feeling grade 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.120 last game when he when he brought in d Nucci 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.680 and he did. He failed as that was the first 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.480 challenge he's ever really faced, in my opinion, UM with 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.960 you know, with a lack luster roster UM, you know, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.880 lack luster UM. You know, a set of assets that 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.280 he's had. You know, this time he had a chance 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.240 to come back in UM and revived himself and he 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.480 did so. Right, he had opportunity to do so, he 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.679 came to play. He called a great game. I think 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.880 offensively they did well. They averaged four and a half 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.520 yards per carry. UM, they threw the ball well, you know, 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.240 they kept him in good situations. There was probably only 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.760 one series that I wish Kella Moore would have done 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.400 things differently, and that's when when we had the interception, UM, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:39.920 you know, when we had a lot of momentum on 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.520 the ground. I wish you would have ran that. Uh 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.160 defensive wise, you mentioned it. These guys are they came 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.120 to play right. These guys are, I think, are finally 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:50.040 start starting to to really take on and incumbass the 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.240 you know Mike Nolan's um, you know, regime and right 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.040 and what he's trying to propose instead of trying to 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.360 be so defensive towards it right. A lot of times 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:58.720 when you're trying to say this is the way I 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.560 do things. And that's why they got rid of those veterans, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.160 because those guys had enough experience where they can say, 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.800 and what is I don't want to do it like that? 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.480 Well got rid of those guys. Now you have a 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.280 bunch of young guys to say, I'm willing to do 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.080 it like that, and now you're starting to see the 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.000 positive positive end of that. I mean, then the special 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.600 team's coordinator, he is what we thought he was. Uh. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.440 He's aggressive, he's relentless, um, he doesn't care. He has 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.800 a short memory. And hats off to coach McCarthy for 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.520 giving these guys the confidence and do what they want. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.760 A lot of times head coaches don't allow you. They'll say, na, no, no, now, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.439 we're not doing that. He is letting Fossil go. He 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.400 has a freedom to do whatever the heck he wants 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:34.880 to Fossils coming up to him and say, hey, coach, 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.559 how about a throw back on a kick off for turn? 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.320 Most coaches would be like, the heck is wrong with you? 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.360 But I guess what. He keeps trusting him, and he 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.520 has a freedom to keep being creative and I think 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:48.400 it's gonna pay off. Yeah, I know, like Mike McCarthy, 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.640 he's gonna get criticized and challenge for, you know, electing 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.240 to go with that field goal. I think it was 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.040 a third quarter the third quarter to go up nineteen 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.800 to nine, go up ten, and you know, at the 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.240 time time, the logic makes sense in terms of this 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.440 is your defense is playing, by far, it's best game 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.480 of the season, and take take the points and try 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.520 to try to stand up a couple more times and 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:17.080 stop them. But to Isaiah's point, while you could criticize 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.000 that for being conservative, man, some of these decisions on 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.079 special teams, I mean they they went into the game thinking, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.280 we've got to do something kind of crazy, get kind 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.160 of weird here and try to make some big plays 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.240 to catch them off guard, you know, kind of like 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.040 they did last week against the Eagles with some of 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.720 the offensive formations. But yeah, you know, John Fossil Bones 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.080 Fossil dialing some things up, man, and they almost they 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.079 almost pulled it off on top of a pretty efficient 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.760 performance by the offense given what they're missing. You know, 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.120 Garrett Gilbert did a nice job overall. I know he 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.480 had to turn over. But but you know, he there 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.000 was a clear difference between a seventh round rookie making 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.120 his first start and a guy that hasn't played much 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.520 but has been around the league in kind of managing 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.360 that offense and driving the bus. He gave him a 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.439 chance to win the game. Let's talk about Garrett Gilbert 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.920 a little bit, and heckmo, whenever it comes to Gilbert 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.360 and what he brought last night. He passed the eye test, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.559 he absolutely did. And there's gonna be a lot of controversy, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.240 and there's gonna be a lot of conversation going into 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.080 the bye week and then after the bye week on 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.240 whether or not Andy Dalton should come back and be 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.000 the quarterback, because even with Andy Dalton playing that whole 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.600 game against Arizona and even the first half against Washington, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.400 he didn't look as competent back there as Garrett Gilbert did. Now, 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.440 there was a leak year offensive line at the time. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.120 You didn't have Zach Martin for a little bit of 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:39.080 that as well. But overall, against a very very good 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.560 team in an incredible front seven, he stood up and 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.440 he passed the eye test. Yesterday. What did you think 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:49.719 of Gilbert? Man? The big ge Wagon double g got 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:59.280 you got a nickname here Wagon, Hey Man. You know 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.520 Garrett Gilbert, Man, he had command of the offense. I loved, 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.160 you know, a lot of what he had going into 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:09.080 the day. I didn't know what to expect from him 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.120 at all, so I found it quite refreshing that he 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.800 stood in the pocket. He delivered some really good throws 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.920 that touchdown pass awesome, He did some I mean, look, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.920 he did some really good things that and it begs 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.880 the question, going, who do you go with going forward? 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.720 I know that's that's the controversy. And then also, had 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.160 he played last week, we have been able to pull 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.480 that out. I mean, all those are ifs and maybees. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.240 But still you could just tell from the way that 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.920 Garret Gilbert stepped up and he made those throws. He 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.360 wasn't afraid of the moment. And that's what I really 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.079 loved the most about Garret Gilbert's performance last night. Man, 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.480 he was a stunt. He did really good except for 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.240 in the red zone. That one throw. I'm sure that's 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.800 one that he wished he had. Yeah, I'm sure that's 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.840 the one that he wished that he had back. But again, 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.200 all in all, being the fourth quarterback. I was pleased 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.400 with his performance. Yeah, I think on that one, you 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.079 got to have the clock in your head. I guess 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.120 down down there things happen faster. And he got hit. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.959 I mean he got hit as he was throwing, but 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.559 you got to get rid of the ball. But you know, 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.000 other than that, yeah, definitely, I mean I he kind 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.199 of let the receivers get open and make play, let 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.480 them go make plays, you know. And he also threw 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.880 some dimes out there. So pretty effective performance. Um. I 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:25.400 don't know if it's a is it is it going 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.640 to be a controversy. I think it is. I think 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.920 it definitely is really really oh yeah, okay, So are 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.600 you saying it's a Garrett I don't. I don't. I mean, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.480 I don't know where I sit on I think the 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.160 way Garrett Gilbert played is exactly what you want from 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.200 your backup quarterback. Yes, your number two quarterback, much less 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.120 than the number four guy coming in for the season. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.560 But that being said, I just I do feel like 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.920 once Andy's back, and hopefully that's soon, um, I would 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.880 expect him to get get the get the job back. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:08.960 But I guess we'll see. Isaiah Gilbert did it Gilbert 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:10.760 did what he was supposed to do, and you know 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.000 he kept the game competitive. He didn't he didn't mess 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.920 the game up. He kept the game. He managed the 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.360 game right, He managed the offense very well. Um, he 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.320 wasn't asked to do anything outside of himself. Again, you 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.240 already mentioned it, you know, Rob terms with that that 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.360 red zone play, it shouldn't never the passionate never been called. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.520 I'll put it that way. Um, once the pass is called, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.600 his job is a not turn it over, and unfortunately 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.520 he did. So you know that's I think that's on 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.080 both of them, um for making making a bad call 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.440 and making a bad decision with the ball. But other 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.240 than that, he did a good job managing the game. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.360 In terms of the controversy, everybody knows I like any Dolden, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.240 I respect any Dalton what he's done in this league 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.560 to date. Um the one the time, the two times 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.600 we've seen him. Um, you know, we we saw a 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.960 version of any Dalton that everybody expected, right, Kevi in 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.440 the game after Za got hurt, after that got hurt 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.840 and took care of business. Yeah, boom, there we go. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.680 That's the anti Dalton we expect to see. Annie Dalton 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.240 that came back the next week. That wasn't just him right, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.040 it was we were, you know, damaged all that kind 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.960 of stuff, damage and goods upfront. But unfortunately that's what 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.000 was put on tape. So if I have to make 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.240 a decision going forward, I'm going to ride this momentum 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.280 that the office had and I'm going with Gilbert over 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.920 Dalton this next game really quick. Yeah, they may do that, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.560 They may do that, you know. Uh, kind of going 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.560 back to that that interception in the red zone, not 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.840 only did Isaiah at the time, not only did we 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.800 not like the play calling from Kellen Moore at that point, 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.800 just run the football at that point and try and 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.120 I mean you were running the ball extremely well on 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.840 that drive initially, so why not stick with it and 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.880 try and score there. The other thing was is even 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.880 on that pass after it was called, there was a 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.160 controversial no call whenever it came to pass interference on 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:59.040 Amari Cooper. I wasn't necessarily as adamant about the past 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.360 interference call at that point. We're gonna talk about some 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.040 penalties and some calls that were definitely blatant coming up 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:09.000 on the next segment. But I hear that you didn't 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.240 like the call. What are your thoughts on it? Because 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:16.600 I thought it was kind of a back and forth there. No, man, 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.359 it was they didn't call it. I mean, it's right 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.240 in the face of rep standing there. I mean, it's 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.880 pass interference. They would have got it. I mean other 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.760 teams are getting PI. Why can't we get PI? What's 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.840 up with that? I mean, I don't know. It's it's obvious. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.639 It's not even up a question. And to me to 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.239 in a situation like that, where you know, we're in 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.400 the red zone, we're fighting tooth and nail and it's 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.880 a PI right there, you don't call it. That's that's lame. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.760 I didn't like it. Didn't like it, Rob, What do 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:47.439 you think about it? Same deal, same deal. I you 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.600 know there there were there were some weird calls on 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.800 both sides, so I think in the end it all 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.640 kind of evens out. But yeah, I had the same 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:59.840 feelings acted Isaiah. Yeah, I mean I think it definitely 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.120 have been called. I mean, you know, rests. Unfortunately, rests 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.359 are human, right, so they're gonna be something in your favorite, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.880 something that aren't in your favor. It didn't get caught. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.399 So here here we are. You know, talking, you know, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.640 really talking about it doesn't It doesn't do anybody any good, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:14.560 you know, just try to find a way to work 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.640 around it. Unfortunately, we've all been there, and I don't 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:19.919 I know, Cowboys fans probably don't want to hear this, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.000 but I'm gonna say it. Anyways, you had that one 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.080 takeaway a touchdown from you later in the game, but 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.439 you also had one that was taken away from the 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.520 Steelers early in the game on what was a no 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.240 call on pass interference on that play down the sideline 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.520 to Chase Claypool. I think it was the first drive 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.520 of the game, and there was one where there was 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.080 a lot of early contact and they ended up not 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.080 calling it and it could have easily been past interference 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.159 and that would have said, I believe the Steelers up 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.760 inside the fifteen, and instead it forced a punt. And 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.800 so I think you're gonna have players that go your way, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.760 they're gonna be players that don't go your way. I 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.440 think that was one that just didn't go your way 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.840 on kind of a fifty fifty ball that I think 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.920 it would have been past interference. I would have thrown 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.439 a flag on it. I'm also paid referee, so nobody 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.760 cares what I think. 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