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Speaker 1: We basked in Michelle Yoe's glory Friend of the Pod.

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Speaker 1: So the Academy awards everything everywhere all at once, pretty

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Speaker 1: Gay Guy Brand, like many people have much more eloquent

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Speaker 1: I stand with everyone who is like, absolutely fucked that film.

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Speaker 1: a whole my hand. But then she got up, she

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00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: went upstairs. By the end, Oh yeah, she got up,

427
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: really did. And then did you notice when Kimmel in

428
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: the monologue like through to her at some point. I mean,

429
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: I think they're friends, Like she's been on Kimmel a

430
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: bunch of times, and like, yeah, I think they liked

431
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: each other a lot. But there was a moment where

432
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: like she like turned on in a way that kind

433
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: of overcorrected. I think she was being very present, just

434
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: have the kind of Gaga mindfulness that she's been in

435
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: for her whole life. Yep, but like there's something different

436
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: about this, about it being you know, joker mode literally,

437
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: and then she kind of just like, hey, you're gonna

438
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: see like it's like something kind of she's a laughaway

439
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: from a tear right now. She's a laughaway from a

440
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: tear right now. And it's very interesting. I hope she's

441
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: taking care of herself. We obviously there are no two

442
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: people who love her more in the world than us.

443
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: You know, she's not taking care of herself though, you

444
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: know she's not. I thought Chromatica was going to change things.

445
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: I thought it would be Gaga by but two and

446
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: Chromatica we're going to be like the sort of blood

447
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: letting moments where she was going to be on the

448
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: path to like healing. And I do think she has

449
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: done a lot of healing. I just think she takes

450
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: on these projects where she has to fucking self immolate.

451
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: You know, she has to like really fucking like suffer.

452
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: And you know that Joaquin is not the best influence either,

453
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: because he also goes all the way hard in and

454
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: so to think of the two of them doing Joker,

455
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: and then even just the drama of her being like,

456
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: I'm not performing and then the next day or two

457
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: days later it being like, no, just kidding, she is,

458
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: and we had been told she doesn't feel she can

459
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: get it together for the performance, and then then being

460
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: like okay, never mind, she is, and then the camera

461
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: panding over to her looking the way she looked. I

462
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: wrote this song with my friend blood Pop and even

463
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: if you're broken inside, you can be her own hero.

464
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: I was like, is she about to crack? You're like

465
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: the alarms are sounding. I think it was a very

466
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: smart move of her to really, you know, she like

467
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: it would have been weird if she had any production

468
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: element to it, And so for her to be like,

469
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: let's go all the way to the the other direction. I'm

470
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: gonna be in a T shirt and jeans. I'm gonna

471
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: be basically sitting kneeling in a squat whatever, and then

472
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like stand up at the end. That is

473
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: the most action that's going to happen on stage. That's

474
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: the most blocking, great move, great idea, truly, very very

475
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: very smart, and I'm proud of our girl. Yeah, I'm

476
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: proud of her. I mean, she ripped it up. I

477
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: will say, it's just so funny that, like when she

478
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: was initially nominated for Holding My Hand for Top Gun Maverick,

479
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: It's such a big fucking movie and such a huge

480
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: song that we were always like, oh, it's gonna be

481
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: fighter jets, it's gonna be parachutes, it's gonna be wind machines.

482
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: And she came out there looking like tiny Tim and

483
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: she came out there barely able to stand and gave

484
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: that performance that we were not positive she was going

485
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: to make it through, and it still was a highlight.

486
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: And she never flops on that stage. She absolutely she

487
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: crushed sound of music Till It Happens to You was

488
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: a fucking moment, like Shallow, that was a moment in

489
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: culture and this whole my hand performance was unforgettable. She

490
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: is four for four on delivering like and I love it.

491
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like my friend was saying, like, what a

492
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: thrilling career pivot like for her to go from the

493
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: pop star that she is to like essentially like this

494
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: fixture at the Academy Awards. And you know, you simply

495
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: know that if Joker Foliad is good, she'll be there again.

496
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: She'll be there again. She'll perform a number from it,

497
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: which I'm sure she'll contribute something to the soundtrack. It

498
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: is a musical, perhaps even nominated for Best Actress or

499
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actress. I don't know how big her role

500
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: will be, but they fucking love her. We love watching

501
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: her on the show. Lady Gaga. Is the Oscars a

502
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: couple of things. I mean, remember that first time she

503
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: did the Oscars doing sound up music. It was this like,

504
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: oh she's there, and it was it was in this

505
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: rough patch in her career post art pop, I think,

506
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: pre Joe An. It didn't seem right. Yeah, there was

507
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: not a lot of certainty. You weren't sure where it

508
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: was going next, right yep. And then that was when

509
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: like your grandpa was like, I actually like that Lady

510
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: she's got she can really sing, yes, and then from

511
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: there just like built and builds and builds. And the

512
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: second thing is with the Joker Folia to being a

513
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: musical thing. Um, Josh Sharpe is this great joke where

514
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: he's told you right where it's a it's a jukebox musical,

515
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: and he's like, I think it would be actually so

516
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: incredible if she and Joaquins sing shallow, sang shallow and Joker,

517
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be a maz I honestly can feel. I mean,

518
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: we've heard Joaquins sing and walk the line that obviously

519
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: sits right in his register. I really want to hear

520
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: not just Lady Gaga, but Harley Quinn sing as Ali. Yeah.

521
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean this is meta on meta on meta, and

522
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: it's film greatness. Doug Engineered. Doug says her performance was

523
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: a very rock and roll moment. Yes, strip it all back.

524
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: The danger was present, no glitz, no glam, no maximalism,

525
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: not even for top Gun Maverick. The winner of Best Sound. Yes,

526
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: she just gave it to you. That not too Nato

527
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: performance was amazing, electrifying. Yeah, congrats, I mean I have

528
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: not but I really want to. I've I've been meaning to,

529
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: and that fucking if that performance was not Oh no, wait,

530
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: what's Hans saying? Oh, Hans said, not a single South

531
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: Asian on stage for NATO. Okay, Hans, explain more. You

532
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: can't just drop this what Hans Hans wants to? Come on,

533
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: Come on, Hans, because we're not able to speak to this.

534
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: Hi folks, Hi, Hi, okay, so explain what what's going on? Yeah? Sorry,

535
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want to derail the Loves because it's an

536
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: incredible song, a deserving award winner. But I have seen

537
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: and obviously the people in the crowd and the audience

538
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: were like electrified, enthused and loved that performance. But I

539
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: gotta say, my wife and I, who are South Asian

540
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: dancers from back in college and have like plenty of

541
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: South Asian dancer friends, we just sat there like kind

542
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: of confused the whole time, looking at these faces who

543
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: appeared to be some form of people of color. But

544
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: we're like, are these people South Asian? Did they just

545
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: outsourced this to like a local Los Angeles dance company

546
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: to just like recreate the dance from the movie. And

547
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't know for a fact that there were no

548
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: South Asians on stage, but reading a little bit about

549
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: it afterwards and just sitting there confused, where we're just like,

550
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: how could they do this? But of course the oscars

551
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: of any body would do something like that. It does

552
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: appear that they hired Napoleon and Tabitha, who I know

553
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: from So you think you can dance to yes, I

554
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: guess for are you're off the performance? I don't know,

555
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: but it was. It was literally just like the dance

556
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: from the movie, which is an amazing day. And I

557
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: should add it's not just that I like, I am

558
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: a South Asian person who wanted to see people who

559
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: look like me doing a dance, although that's important, but

560
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: it betrays the entire point of the song in the movie,

561
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: which is that there's these two Indian guys at an

562
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: all white party who are being like teased and ridiculed

563
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: for being different and for not knowing how to dance,

564
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: and these white guys or what do you know how

565
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: to dance? Also do you know how to dance? Flamenco?

566
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: And they're like, no, but here's how we can outdance

567
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: all of you, and then they bust out. It's like

568
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: the most incredible dancing you've ever seen. It's uniquely Indian

569
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: dancing performed by two Indian guys to put all these

570
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: white people to shame. So when you fail to cast

571
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: South Asian people on stage, you like missing the entire

572
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: point of the movie in the performance on the song.

573
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: So it's just kind of ridiculous. Yeah, this this Indie

574
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: WI article that you've sent us as a representative for

575
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: the Academy in mos In Picture Art and Sciences. When

576
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: asked about the background of the performances, dancers told Indie

577
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Wire that it was quote incorrect that there were few,

578
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: if any South Asian artists and the performance, though they

579
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: did not provide further information when asked for clarification. And

580
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: I gotta say, like just the dancing on stage, that

581
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: is an impossible dance to do in one take. Like

582
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: when you watch the movie, it's incredible. It's highly edited,

583
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: and I think I had seen an interview with SS

584
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: Roger Malory was like, yeah, there's like there's just no

585
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: way that dance is so high energy, there's no way

586
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: you can put But I think that like the framing

587
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: of that performances, let's try to do the impossible, was

588
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: probably never the right way to handle it and it

589
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: was just a bummer. I think that, like every other

590
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: song performance had some level of production, like everything everywhere

591
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: all at one song incredibly staged and performed Rihanna like

592
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: lifted into the sky and then not to Nato was

593
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: like they just put a picture of that palace in

594
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: the background on the screens and then they have like

595
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: people dance. So anyway, not to just trouble lovest love

596
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: the song, yeah, love the choreography. I think salth Asian

597
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: dance is just like so good that even a mediocre

598
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: version of it is really impressive, especially to like, you know,

599
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: not in any people who've never seen something like that before,

600
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: and they weren't like bad, they just didn't hold a

601
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: candle to what it could have been, right, So I

602
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: think the people are like rightfully blown away, but couldn't

603
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: on this platform, of all platforms, you know, not at

604
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: least talk about. Of course, of course, thank you for

605
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: letting us know. No, I'm happy that you did, because honestly,

606
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: I would never have known that. I don't feel like

607
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: it's that sinister and insidious of like the audience is

608
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: too dumb to notice. To me, it just feels like

609
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: one I'm sure there's not a South Asian person involved

610
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: in the production of the songs specifically, or somebody who

611
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: was in a position to say, like, hey, maybe we

612
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: should consider this. I think they probably thought they hired

613
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: great choreographers Nabby Tabs like legitimately are incredible, like some

614
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: of the best in the biz. They're just not the

615
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: right ones for that. And I think that when you're

616
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: in a machine that moves as fast as the oscars does,

617
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: there's probably just not somebody to say, hey, hold up,

618
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: let's like rethink this part of it. And I should say,

619
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: like testament to how incredible the song and the dancing

620
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: is that even an underwhelming version of it elicits the

621
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: response that it did, like the first standing ovation, I

622
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: think like people just out of their seats, enthused, electrified,

623
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: like there was nothing fake about that. No, I mean,

624
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: watching watching at home, I was like, that was an

625
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: unbelievable performance. I mean, like, I you never I would

626
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: never have thought anything. And I have not seen that

627
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: movie yet, but everyone that has seen it was simply like,

628
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: even with all the stars ours that they had nominated

629
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: in that category. And it's not always in a situation

630
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: where best Original Song has Rihanna and Lady Gaga both nominated,

631
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: and they have the opportunity to have one of those

632
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: women on stage accepting an oscar, which is a moment

633
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: in and of itself and a reason to bring in

634
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: people watching. It seemed like it was unanimous amongst everyone

635
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: predicting it and voting for it, that not To not

636
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: To was the deserving winner. And so yeah, that is

637
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: disappointed for them to have not like come through exactly

638
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Speaker 1: on the performance. But I will say as a viewer,

639
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it thoroughly and made me very excited to

640
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: see the movie, which you have every right too. And

641
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: that's honestly what it's all about. It's like, does it

642
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: make you fall in love? Doesn't make you want to go?

643
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: Appreciate this movie. So thank you guys for giving me

644
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: the chance to talk about it. Of course, thank you

645
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: for talking, thank you for coming on, and we celebrate you.

646
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: And this is we've always said, more of a Howard

647
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: Stern esque podcasts than anyone knows, and that we have

648
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: people come in and sort of pop in, not in

649
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: that we have like you know, naked women coming in

650
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: and like seeing who can get tickled the longest, which

651
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: one of us is the Robin, then I'm the Robin

652
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: one thousand percent. Now, No, no, I'm not. I am not.

653
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: I have not for the past two years been giving

654
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: any energy besides Robin. Matt says something amazing funny every

655
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: other breath, and wow, yeah, I'm going really I'm I'm Robin.

656
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This is it's so boring for me to

657
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: complain about how tired I am. And it's not fun

658
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: to like route for me and be like hang in

659
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: there bow, but like it is tough. It is tough

660
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: right now for your old friends. Well, you are tiring.

661
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: You are tired for really good I'm tiring and I

662
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: am tiring. You are both tiring and tired for really

663
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: good reasons. I'll say that. I was also going to

664
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: say Rihanna performed her and her um pregn see, hormones

665
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: were very, very very present so she could deliver the vocals. Yes, yes, absolutely,

666
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm bad Navy. I did not watch. Oh yeah, well

667
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: here's the thing about it. It's about one quarter of

668
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: a song, and so I think it's fine that you didn't.

669
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: I said, if that song was any better at all,

670
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: if Lift Me Up was any more of a song

671
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: than it is. She would have walked away with that award.

672
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: But the thing is it really is I mean, and

673
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: she admitted it's a lullaby. Sure, I guess I didn't

674
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: know that. The whole Malala moment happened while they were

675
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: setting up. Yes, the set for left me up, and

676
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: I guess Jimmy caught a little bit of flack for that.

677
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: I thought she handled it great. I thought she looked amazing.

678
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: She looked stunned. Malala may have been best dressed at

679
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: the Academy Awards, and sometimes that just happens. Sometimes Malala

680
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: shows up at the function and she is best dressed. Yes,

681
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: you always always always run that risk, right. I saw

682
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: so much Broadway. I'm so happy to hear more. Yes,

683
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: I need to hear all your opinions about Broadway. I

684
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: have to say. I saw was it one, two, three, four? Yeah? Okay,

685
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: so get this after Sizza, which was incredible. I then

686
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: saw Jessica Chastain in Adalla's house the day we recorded

687
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: last week's episode. And then, by the way, it was

688
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: an amazing moment when Jessica Chastain and Halle Berry handed

689
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: Michelle Yoe the oscar, and then the three of them

690
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: arm in arm left the stage, and that image was like, wow, gorgeous, stunning.

691
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily representative of the best actress winners of

692
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: all time, but it was representative of I hope what

693
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: the future can look like. And I thought that was

694
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: a beautiful image to three of them arm in arm

695
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: walking off, I thought that was wonderful. But I just

696
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Speaker 1: wanted to say that I saw Jessica Chastain in a

697
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Speaker 1: Doll's House on Broadway, and I have thoughts and a review.

698
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: I really I've never seen a dollhouse performed live. This

699
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: was very minimalist. It's literally just the actors in navy

700
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: blue clothing on stage and rotating chairs that move about

701
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: the stage. That's really the only like stunt that the

702
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: show does until the end, which I won't spoil, but

703
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: it's really just like a genuine showcase for Jessica Chastains acting.

704
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: There's no props, there's no sets. She is absolutely unreal.

705
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: If this isn't a Tony win, then I don't know anything,

706
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: because this is like she's literally faced out to the

707
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: audience pretty much the entire time, Like even when she's

708
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: speaking with the other actors, she's rarely facing the other actors.

709
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: She's really giving it out and just to watch her shifts,

710
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: her control, her focus. It's really and by the way,

711
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: no audience has ever coughed more during a productions house

712
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: that I was at. I don't know what it is about.

713
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: It was just like everyone who was sick in the

714
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: world was at this theater. And I really have to

715
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: commend all the actors, but especially Jessica who holds the center.

716
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: It didn't deter her at all. Also, seconds into the

717
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: like not seconds mids into the performance I was at,

718
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: someone from the audience had to scream for help for

719
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: a doctor and there was a huge problem and someone

720
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: was escorted out. It was like a really intense moment

721
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: and they started from the top and they did the

722
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: whole thing again and Jessica was just perfect. I mean,

723
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Speaker 1: I just have to say, like I saw this in

724
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Speaker 1: the final week of her reign as Best Actress, and

725
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: I think it's so cool that what she decided to

726
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: do in her year. Yeah, you know, when she has

727
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: pretty much any choice in the world, huge, huge, huge

728
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: actress and you know, in her Best Actress moment, decided

729
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: to do this type of production of a doll's house.

730
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: It just was such a flex And yeah, if you

731
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: can go see just like a chest stain in a

732
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Doll's house, you really should. If you're a theater person

733
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: like and SIPs the dells them before you go in.

734
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: Try not to cough, please, it's really giving cough drops necessary,

735
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: or just wait till you feel better to go, because

736
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling you bowen every five seconds. No, no, no,

737
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: like that happened to me in a Chicago everyone's coughing

738
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: and Broadway Now it's a lot. It's not a COVID

739
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: thing for me necessarily. It's just like stop that. Maybe

740
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: just bring in like a water bottle or something. And

741
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: here's the thing too, this actually is true. Usually if

742
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: you feel like you need to cough, you can just

743
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: take a sip of water. Usually, yes, rule of culture,

744
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: what rules the number is that one thousand? It's really

745
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: culture number one thousand. Usually if you need to cough,

746
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: you water. Okay. So at Doll's house, that was fabulous.

747
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: At Doll's House, I give a nine out of ten.

748
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: And there's a stunt that happens at the end that

749
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: I won't ruin, which made the audience gasp, Oh my god.

750
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: Then on Tuesday, I went to go see Sweeney Todd

751
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: on Broadway with Annalie Ashford and Josh Groban. Now, this

752
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: show is still in previews, and I think what I

753
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: saw felt like a preview. So I am going to

754
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: be withholding my review of Sweeney Todd until I see

755
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: it again. And I have already bought my tickets for April.

756
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to ring off any alarm bells about

757
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd. I think that this production is going to

758
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: get there. But I'm going to go again in April

759
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: so that I can be I think very sure about

760
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: what I say. That's what I'll say about that. But

761
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like. And you did say something

762
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: in the Marlon Mandel episode, What did I say? You

763
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: heard her that it was Honorie Ashford's show, that it's

764
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: her show and she is fucking hilarious. I'll say that

765
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: like she you know what, it's giving the choice, it's

766
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: kind of giving like Goldie Hawn as Missus Lovett. I

767
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: didn't know based one when it started how much I

768
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: would like that choice, and I think it was the

769
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: right choice for her. Okay, there's just things about the

770
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: production that I think still need to like. I think

771
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: they're still working out sound and stuff, and so like,

772
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting until I got to take it. That's

773
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: a little bit closer to the stage, until I can

774
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: really like soak in it because it's Sweeney Todd is

775
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: my favorite show of all time, and I just want

776
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: to make sure that I've seen what the production truly

777
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: is before I give a review. So I'm being I'm

778
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: withholding on that. Yeah, but stay tuned, stay tuned. Yeah, Okay,

779
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: review and coming Wednesday. I saw Ben Platt in Parade.

780
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: This was a ten out of ten. Wow. He is

781
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: like a weapon in terms of like musical theater performance.

782
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: He is such an incredibly gifted actor. And I actually

783
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: had never seen Ben Platt perform live, weirdly enough, even

784
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: though he's a friend of ours and there were ample

785
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: chances to see him and dear Evan Hansen back in

786
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: the day, I just never never low key had the

787
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: money to go and it was always sold out. I

788
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: never could go, So being able to see him live

789
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: was incredible. Parade. If you all don't know out there

790
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: is a musical. It's a Jason Robert Brown musical about

791
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: the trial, conviction, and hanging of Leo Frank who many

792
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: historians believe was incorrectly an unjustly tried for and hung

793
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: for the crime of murdering a thirteen year old factory

794
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: girl in Atlanta. It's deals with issues of anti Semitism,

795
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: it deals with issues of race. The music is absolutely beautiful.

796
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: It's just a really stirring show that I cannot recommend enough. MICHAELA. Diamond,

797
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: who plays Leo Frank's wife Lucille, is also fantastic. It's

798
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: just you gotta go see this one. It's really good.

799
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: I think a contender for Best Revival, and Ben should

800
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: absolutely be up there for Best Actor in a Musical.

801
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, his voice is fucking crazy Bowen. It's like,

802
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: we all know he can sing and belt to fucking

803
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: high hell, but there's moments where he goes into his

804
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: lower register that I was looking over at, like I

805
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: saw it with George Severs, Steve Mazoni, and Patrick Rogers

806
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: and we were looking at each other like how it's

807
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: just like some people just are able to do things

808
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: vocally that others are just not. Yeah, it's wild happy

809
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: for him. And then finally I saw Camelot on Friday.

810
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: It was I think the second performance of Camelot at

811
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: the Vivian Beaumont. I'm Lincoln Center and it was a set.

812
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: Hipposuit is incredible, Taylor Trench is incredible. This show needs

813
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: to cut time out of it, we need it just

814
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: is too long. Act one was an hour and forty

815
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah, the show started at eight. I did

816
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 1: look down at my watch at the end of Act

817
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: one and it was ninety six. So again, they're also

818
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: in previews, and I think some attention should be focused

819
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: on getting it trimmed up, you know what I mean,

820
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: like just getting it to move, just because it really

821
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: is long. It's a new book by Aaron Sorkin, which

822
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: may have something to do with that. I certainly was

823
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: laughing at a lot of it, but I wonder if

824
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: we could be getting through it quicker. Sure. And then

825
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: I saw Betty Who on Saturday Night and she fucking

826
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: ate it up at Hammerstein Ballroom. Incredible performers, dancing choreo

827
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: the whole time, vocal sounded amazing. We love you, Betty.

828
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: We had an amazing time. And then I want to

829
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: go see my sister at Saturday Night Live. So what

830
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: a week for me? I think I'm so so happy

831
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: that you had this rich week, truly, and it was

832
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: exactly what what? What? No? I know I can tell

833
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: union some culture, it's really bad. It's really bad right now,

834
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: it's dark. If I think too long about it, I

835
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: start to really go to a bad place and we

836
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: will not get into it any further. But I really

837
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: do think that this is exactly what the doctor ordered

838
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: for my sister. You have a lot of life to

839
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: think about. You have a lot of the world and

840
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: history to think about. You have music to think about,

841
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: so many things stimulating you, and you are someone who

842
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: takes that in and processes it in the best way.

843
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: It comes out as something very cogent and thoughtful, and

844
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: I always love hearing you talk about it. I know

845
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: the readers feel the same way. Well, it's been medicine, yes,

846
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: let's just say that. But don't don't worry about because

847
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm taking you to Disney World. Oh my god, I'm

848
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: so excited. I'm so excited. I need it so badly.

849
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: I can't believe that I'm going to get to be

850
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: there when you do Rides of the Resistance and This

851
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Guardian's roller coaster for the first time, and that you

852
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: and I are both going to do Tron. I'm gonna

853
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: be there when you do Tron for the first time

854
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: since I've done it already. Oh yeah, you've done it

855
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: in China. I've done it in Shanghai. I remember it

856
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday. Yang and I waiting at the

857
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: gates of Shanghai Disney before opening. As soon as it opens,

858
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: a bum rush of hundreds of people running to the

859
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: Tron ride. I've never run faster in my life. Yang

860
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: and I bullet to Tron and we were one of

861
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: the first people to make it there, and it was

862
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: one of the most thrilling experiences of my life. A

863
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: perfect coaster. I am so beyond excited because to think

864
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: about riding this roller coaster like a damn Tron motorcycle

865
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: face first, to have the thing fasten you and press

866
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: down on you from the back, hit it from the back,

867
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: why don't I Literally, here's the thing. I know it's

868
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: the Magic Kingdom, but I'm gonna feel very sexual on

869
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: the ride. Your back is going to be arched, cocks out,

870
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: you are going to be primeed. It's gonna be sniffies

871
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: up in here. We're gonna be ass up, like yeah,

872
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: the visuals go inside and outside. Don't forget outside of

873
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: trunk because guess what you're going outside for a little bit.

874
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: It's so gaging, it's giving. You are going to absolutely

875
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: gag for guardians too and rise to the resistance. Forget

876
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: it bowing. Oh my god. The way we're about to

877
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: get captured and taken to another planet, and then the

878
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: way we're about to escape, it's honey, packed the edibles. Honey,

879
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: Kylo Wren. I know that one. I know that girl.

880
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: I've stared that girl in the face. Literally, Well, she's

881
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: coming for you. She's coming. Well guess what I was

882
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: cut out of white noise fun fact. Yeah, And mister

883
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: driver himself was catching up with me about life, and

884
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: I was like, that's Kylo Wren over there. I'm not

885
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: scared of him, really, is Kylo? I'm not scared of him.

886
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: You know. One of the great phenomenons of twenty twenty

887
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: three so far has been everyone rewatching girls, and I am,

888
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: oh my god. Literally, it's so crazy now to think

889
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: of Adam from Girls as being Kylo rem like to

890
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: understand that that was his introduction debut. What catapult to

891
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: him into the stratosphere was as the weirdest fuck boy

892
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: in Greenpoint and now he's Kylo Ren. The pilot really

893
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: does hold up so incredibly well. It does for Hannis

894
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: lur first lines to be I'm a growing girl. Perfect.

895
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: I know it's like on the nose maybe, but like

896
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: actually works perfectly. Actual's stuffing her mouth, eating with her parents.

897
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm a growing girl. You eat it like they're going

898
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: to take it away from you. Perfect first lines of

899
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: that show. And then oh my god, the Beach House

900
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: episode Beach House, Yeah, I mean there's a line in

901
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: that episode that has often overlooked. It's where um Andrew

902
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: Reynolds's boyfriend talking to talking to Hannah yes yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

903
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: yes yes, the writer, the writer. But he's like, but

904
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: they're they're having a good time. And then he goes, oh,

905
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: you remind me so much of my friend Kayla. She's

906
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: such a dilettante. I think that's such a funny line.

907
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: She is such a like she's so wild, she is

908
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: such a dilettante. And then Hannah's reacted Lena giving perfect

909
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: perfect response to it, which is like, oh that's so funny,

910
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: or like something to that effect, like it's so good,

911
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: just that little I mean she could write a fucking

912
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: TV show or movie whatever. Yeah. Unfortunately for haters, the

913
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: show was actually better now than it was then. Great

914
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: like it is because now now it's this weird like

915
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: period piece, you know what I mean. Now it's this

916
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: weird like time capsule of the twenty tens, and especially

917
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: like you know, now being in your thirties watching it,

918
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: watching people in their you know, early to mid twenties,

919
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: and like the things that really frustrated me and annoyed

920
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: me at the time, Now I watch and I'm like, yep,

921
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: because you recognize yourself you would say that for attention,

922
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: you would do that, you would get into this fight,

923
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: you would not be able to stop yourself from doing this.

924
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: Like it's just really for someone who was just barely

925
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: older than that age, she was able to capture what

926
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: it means to be that age from like an all

927
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: seeing perspective. That is to be applauded. I mean, it

928
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: is a really worthy rewatch, especially if, like you know,

929
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: you're someone who's from New York or was living in

930
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: New York at that time, or understands the idiosyncrasies of

931
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: like Brooklyn and Manhattan. It's just so Yeah, even the

932
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: stuff about like Liberal Arts College, you know what I mean,

933
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: like all of it. It's just completely when you get

934
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: on that attraction in wallet Disney World and see just

935
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: how far Adam Driver has come to being an audio

936
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: animatronic villain in many scenes of an attraction that is groundbreaking. Bowen,

937
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. I'm very excited in this when

938
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm most excited to do Expedition at First again, It's

939
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: been many years since I've done that, really good one

940
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: of my favorite rides of all time. Truly, when you

941
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: see Miss Thing, it is a gag. When you see

942
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: Miss Thing, it is really it is a hairy gag.

943
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: It's a hairy, scary gag. And that is a contrary guy,

944
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: if you thought you were going to have a bad time.

945
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: And the drinks at Nepal, the drinks in and the

946
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: Animal Kingdom in that section, delicious drinks, delicious cocktail, Yeah,

947
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: they turn all the way up. Honestly, I'm so excited

948
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: to go just indulge with my sister. And also I'm

949
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna get you on the Velocity Coaster starring b D

950
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: starring b D. Bradley Darryl. Oh my god, I'm so

951
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: excited though, and you're gonna get your life on that.

952
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: I've said this before, I'll say it again. I need

953
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: this cannot come soon enough. That is the only thing

954
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: that is giving me hope. Otherwise I have been in

955
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: a state of learned hopelessness, as therapist calls us learn hopelessness. Yeah,

956
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: that is. It's a very severe term. It's I guess

957
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: a term that's like more applied to like people in

958
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: like really shitty situations. Yes, like an abusive relationship. It's

959
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: not quite that. But I am sort of like completely

960
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: distorted by work and can only identify through work. And

961
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: I know it's like a rom COMI cliche to be

962
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: like I'm a workaholic, but I hate it. You saw me,

963
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: You saw me on Saturday. The symbolic thing in this

964
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: is that like I can't even have a therapy session

965
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: without it being interrupted by something work related. Like my

966
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: last five therapy sessions have either been canceled because of

967
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: a work emergency or during the session something's come up

968
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, we need you now, And I'm like,

969
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: this is indicative of the whole thing, Like designated protected

970
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: time where I'm supposed to like examine things. Yeah, are

971
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: not respected and feels like it's getting bucked. Yeah. Yeah,

972
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: So like I just constantly feel like I have to

973
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: like sign and it's you know what, Bowen, I think

974
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: you have to like And something I've done is like

975
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: i've actually and I'm not saying you haven't done this

976
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: or that it's not a lot more difficult for you,

977
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: but I draw a hard boundary now, Like I keep

978
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: my therapy appointments and I keep them and if something

979
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: pops up and they're like, oh, could you potentially do

980
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: it now, I just say I have therapy at that time. No,

981
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: I cannot move it. And I understand that that might

982
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: be more difficult for you because you are a while

983
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: an extremely crucial and important part of a machine. You

984
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: are a cognitive machine, and I understand that sometimes it

985
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: feels like that and it feels like you're being handed

986
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: a decision instead of being consulted on a decision. But

987
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: your time for your like literal mental workout and your

988
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: emotional work out is really fucking important, really fucking important.

989
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: And I know that you say that, but I wonder

990
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: if you know that and if you could draw a

991
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: harder boundary. And I don't say that as like a instructive.

992
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: I just I just think it's that important. Yeah. Can

993
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I share the one thing in culture that I am

994
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: actually enthused about because I was able to consume it. Yes,

995
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: was Kunk on Earth. It is Kunk on Earth. It

996
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: is Oh, yes, you were talking about this perfect viewing experience.

997
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: Here's why only five episodes, every episode under thirty minutes.

998
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: You can watch it in a day. Yes, and it is.

999
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: Every joke is landing, every every joke is the stupidest

1000
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: joke you've ever heard in your life, delivered by Diane Morgan,

1001
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: who is truly giving you a tort a force in

1002
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: comedy and in commitment, and in just parodying all these conventions.

1003
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: In mocumentaries, in series about human history, civilization, anthropology, whatever, Matt,

1004
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: you will be obsessed. You have to watch this Kunk

1005
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: on Earth. How do I watch it? How do the

1006
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: readers watch? The readers can watch it on Netflix. If

1007
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: you're in the UK, it's on BBC. You might already

1008
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: know there's there was a series called Kunk on Britain.

1009
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: This woman named Philomina Kunk, who is a fictional character

1010
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: played by Diane Morgan, interviews professors experts, asks them of

1011
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: the stupidest questions you can possibly she doesn't want like

1012
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: an American history. There's an episode on like American history

1013
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: after the Industrial Revolution, and she talks about the Civil

1014
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: War in America, and then she talks about Lincoln, and

1015
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: then she like sets up like Lincoln's assassination as let

1016
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: me try to quote it. She goes. Unfortunately for Abraham Lincoln,

1017
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: only five days after the North declared victory, he suffered

1018
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: a terrible tragedy by being forced to go to the

1019
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: theater to watch a play. A kindly gunman put him

1020
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: out of his misery, but cruelly not until the third act.

1021
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: So stupid, like she she's delivering it and like I'm

1022
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: not doing it justice, but she is. Every the way

1023
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: she's delivering all these things is perfect. You will love

1024
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: it all, readers. I'm sure readers are already ahead of

1025
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: beyond this, but Kunk on Earth is wonderful, wonderful, wonderful viewing,

1026
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: healing you. I'm gonna watch it and by the next

1027
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: episode I'll have Kunk on our thoughts because I immediately

1028
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: respond to the name Philamina Kunk like that. It's It's perfect.

1029
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: It's just the kind of comedy that like you miss

1030
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, um, maybe a fun companion piece to like

1031
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: History of the World Part two, which I'm also excited

1032
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: to watch. Yes, yes, I'm excited too. I'm in it.

1033
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: Blink and you miss it, really blink and you truly

1034
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: miss it. I'm in it. I'm in History of the

1035
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: World Part two. Oh my god, I love that. I'm

1036
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: in a scene with Adam Palely. Oh I love I

1037
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: had a line and I heard that they cut it.

1038
00:59:49,760 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: But that's okay. I don't think so, honey, MiLB Brooks,

1039
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: speaking of I don't think so, honey. I think it's

1040
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: time to transition into that segment which Bowen does. You

1041
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: and I both know is our sixty second segment where

1042
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: we rant on something in culture that absolutely needs a

1043
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: pulling down from the perch on which it rests. And

1044
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: I have something. It is Oscars related, this sort of

1045
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: being the Oscars episode of Last Coat twenty twenty three. Okay,

1046
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many as

1047
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so, honey. James Cameron

1048
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: and Tom Cruise not attending the Oscars because they didn't

1049
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: receive individual nominations for their films they produced that were

1050
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: nominated for Best Picture. I completely agree with Jimmy Kimmel.

1051
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, this idea that you're like,

1052
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: go to the theater, go to the theater, go to

1053
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: the theater, and then on the one night of the

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Speaker 1: year where it's the biggest night in Hollywood and you're

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Speaker 1: supposed to celebrate theater, you don't show up because your

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Speaker 1: ego is butt hurt that you didn't get a nomination.

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Speaker 1: Fucking God, for a bid, you don't make a top

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Speaker 1: I've list Tom Cruise for your performance as Tom Cruise

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Speaker 1: in Top Gun. Maverick, What exactly did you do to

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Speaker 1: marry it a nomination over someone like Paul mescal who's

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Speaker 1: fucking moving and brilliant and also not for nothing but

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Speaker 1: a new movie star. Doesn't this help the cause? I

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Speaker 1: guess not, because nothing matters but you, James Cameron. I

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Speaker 1: believe in the way of Water, and I believe in

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Speaker 1: the seed Bearer, but I don't believe in your lack

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Speaker 1: of attendance at the Academy Awards. It's hypocritical and I

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Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. And that's one minute, like it's stupid,

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, you are nominated. James Cameron, you

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Speaker 1: are a producer on Avatar The Way of Water, so

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Speaker 1: you're nominated show up. It's just so transparent. And Tom

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Speaker 1: Cruise as well, a producer of Top Gun Maverick. You

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Speaker 1: did get a nomination, Like that is how sensitive you are? You?

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Speaker 1: The night is about showing up, literally at the night

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Speaker 1: is about being there. Yeah, and you're not there and

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Speaker 1: everyone else is showing up, like tons of people were

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Speaker 1: there that were snubbed, Like not everyone is gonna win,

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Speaker 1: like angel La Baskett lost her category. She didn't leave

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Speaker 1: right afterwards. She could have, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: like give me a fucking break. As also as if

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Speaker 1: you haven't been like lauded enough, come on, it's just stupid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. And in a world where it

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Speaker 1: is even a little bit fixed, like you don't think

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Speaker 1: that your lack of attendance isn't also hurting the movie.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, maybe if Tom Cruise fucking shows

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Speaker 1: up at the Oscars, maybe like in a world where

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Speaker 1: like the whole thing is fake, Top Gon Maverick does

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Speaker 1: win Best Picture, but you wouldn't know and it didn't

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Speaker 1: happen because you didn't come. But luckily Nicole Kimmen was

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Speaker 1: there giving the performance of a lifetime on the Red carpet.

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Speaker 1: There's just some sometimes people do certain things and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's how a movie start. Acts like a little bit crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you right after this, someone dubbed the

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Speaker 1: sounds they thought she may have been making on the

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Speaker 1: Red carpet, and it's a lot of this m oh oh,

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Speaker 1: I love. It's just so funny because what she's doing

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Speaker 1: is so insane. Anyway, it's about showing up. You're right,

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Speaker 1: we can't blame them. We can't blame these people for

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Speaker 1: looking a little weird, behaving a little weirdly when there

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Speaker 1: are like a million cameras pointing at them. But I totally,

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Speaker 1: But I love kind of laughing at people acting weirdly

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Speaker 1: in any situation. I love laughing at people acting weirdly.

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Speaker 1: And but here's the thing. It's not in a coal

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Speaker 1: that is funny. It's a situation that is funny. And

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Speaker 1: it's her galvanization and her sense of at homeness on

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Speaker 1: the Red Carpet, which to me is like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what makes a movie star, that little part of

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Speaker 1: you that's insane that knows how to do that on

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Speaker 1: a red carpet and confidently can do that thing where

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Speaker 1: you turn around and look over your shoulder and find

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Speaker 1: the cameras, like on a place where you are not

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Speaker 1: performing necessarily but posing. It is that meeting of model

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Speaker 1: and movie star and like award show opportunist that is

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Speaker 1: perfectly combined in that moment, like you know who else

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Speaker 1: does it? Fucking Zendeia. Zendia hits the carpet and it's

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Speaker 1: like a performance on the red car performances and she

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Speaker 1: steps away and then is Zendeia a human? But she

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Speaker 1: transcends being a human in that moment. And only so

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Speaker 1: many people can leave their body enough to not just

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Speaker 1: dissociate on a red carpet, which I know what it's

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Speaker 1: like to do, and I feel like I've seen you do,

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Speaker 1: and I've definitely seen like Joel Kim do that moment

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Speaker 1: where you get on the red carpet and you sort

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Speaker 1: of leave your body to be there for a photo.

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Speaker 1: These people are like actively being photographed, yeah yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they are kind of going the opposite way and be

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Speaker 1: and they are a kind of extra present as in

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Speaker 1: like yeah, hyper present. Yeah, yes, Bowen Yang do you

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Speaker 1: have an I don't think so, honey. Okay, here is

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Speaker 1: Bowen Yang's I don't think so, Honeyest time starts now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The tap water not be

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Speaker 1: and cold. I need the tap water to be cold

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Speaker 1: as ice if it's going to go in my water bottle.

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Speaker 1: If the tap water is tepid, I'm not drinking it.

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Speaker 1: If the tap water is warm, honey, make it a

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Speaker 1: little hotter so I can drink some tea. But the

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Speaker 1: only water that it's going down my gullet is ice

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Speaker 1: cold water. And that is a preference of mine that

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Speaker 1: I think has done me right, has done me well,

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Speaker 1: has not done any wrong. Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: the whole world could benefit from drinking ice cold tap water. Fifteen.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you the UK, or at least

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Speaker 1: the standard hotel in the UK in London at King's

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Speaker 1: Cross does not have acceptably cold tap water. And it

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Speaker 1: means I have to ask room service to send me

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Speaker 1: ice so that I can put still water in it.

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Speaker 1: And that's one minute. And you know what, at least

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Speaker 1: there's a fix which is ice, which is easy to

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Speaker 1: get worldwide. But the thing is when the tap water

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Speaker 1: is a little too warm. And here's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: know you metabolize it quicker, and therefore you hydrate quicker, don't.

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Speaker 1: I just prefer cold. I prefer cold, Bow. I prefer cold.

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Speaker 1: I need to feel refreshed. And the only way I

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Speaker 1: can feel refreshed on a somatic psychosomatic level, my mind

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Speaker 1: thinks I feel refreshed if it's cold, if my body

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Speaker 1: registers it as Wow, this is a cold drink that

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Speaker 1: you would have at any restaurant. I think we need

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Speaker 1: to take this out. I'm a high note literally, and

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Speaker 1: we do finish every episode with a song. Bow, and

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Speaker 1: I'm reaching out to you, and I know what you see.

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Speaker 1: I'm reaching out to you with And we end every

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Speaker 1: episode with a song. Oh my head, okay, heavens, I

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Speaker 1: was happy holding me me up. But you didn't think

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Speaker 1: it was a meal. O my god? Whoa mid dwn?

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Speaker 1: Do you even know the song? Ke me safe one time?

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Speaker 1: One time? Sie fans fuck me in the highest place,

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Speaker 1: making up words, slay me when you go off king

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Speaker 1: live me up. I'm looking at my sister Boo Yang, amazing,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I dedicated that one to you. Thank you, girl,

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Speaker 1: I love you, Love you