WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Why Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield,

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<v Speaker 1>next flowing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Wingstoff Where Flavor Gets its Wings. Now, your hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Hello

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the show. It is Tuesday, Live in Frisco,

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<v Speaker 1>the s WBC Mortgage living Room. Hanging with the Boys,

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<v Speaker 1>proudly brought to you by Wingstop Where Flavored gets its Wings.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, Nate Newton, Shannon Gross. We have

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<v Speaker 1>one more day till we look forward to this next game.

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<v Speaker 1>So many things we weren't able to get to yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>so many things to talk about. How you first off,

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<v Speaker 1>how you guys doing today? How y'all feeling? Oh? Great, man,

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<v Speaker 1>great game? You know, I was so glad Rams dominated

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears so we can say, okay, at least we

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<v Speaker 1>held them up down to twenty points. Looking for the

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<v Speaker 1>civil lining Kurt, Yeah, you're stretching, man, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>How you feeling, Kurt, got your Navy, got your baby

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<v Speaker 1>Polo on today? I see back in, back in and

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<v Speaker 1>step Jesse's got the uh North Carolina blue repping. Let's go, Nate, Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your nice blue shirt on. We all got

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<v Speaker 1>shades of blue on. I guess we got the blues

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<v Speaker 1>this week. No, no, no, no, no, mine is a

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<v Speaker 1>light of blue. Jesse. No, don't say that about me. Dog,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Carolina Blue. Hey, I'm good, I'm sky blue. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. See I told you yesterday, shouted, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>already there. Where you trying to get to. I'm already there.

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<v Speaker 1>Broun Oh, So you say you already in Mexico. Ain't

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<v Speaker 1>good for a fat man? In fact, the Bahamas or

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere like that. I maybe going through with the man. Yeah, Kurt,

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<v Speaker 1>so many things we didn't get to yesterday, so many

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<v Speaker 1>things that are going on, so many comments, so many rumors,

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<v Speaker 1>just so much stuff. Where do you want to start? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I wanted to maybe get some of

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<v Speaker 1>your guy's thoughts that I guess. One of the hot

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<v Speaker 1>talk picks this morning was Jerry's interview on the Fan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>lit all little testy, I don't know. I didn't hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard some of the highlights later. But you were

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<v Speaker 1>listening live, aren't you. I was, Yeah, what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>me to do this? I will not allow y'all to

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<v Speaker 1>do this to me today. Okay, Jerry is already testy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know I can sometimes say things that will

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<v Speaker 1>get my ten dollars revolt, and he's probably listening. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna let you guys send me down this road.

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<v Speaker 1>But but in meetings all morning, I just need the

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<v Speaker 1>cliff notes. But you don't have to give any commentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Just tell us what happens, right, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just basically asking Jerry, you know about is this team

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<v Speaker 1>void of any leadership? Uh? And that means from any front?

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<v Speaker 1>And and as Jerry was trying to explain it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be honest with you. Jerry was doing what Jerry does,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was talking in circles. He was saying a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of words and not saying anything at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the process of this where you know, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>that he knew that what he was saying made absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>no sense, and he was just trying to put a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of words together to say that. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gave you an answer and in between their Sean kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cut him off a little bit to kind of interject,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Jerry got a little testy and tell them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, how about you just shut up and

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<v Speaker 1>let me answer the question. And you know it went

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<v Speaker 1>from there. But I think here, here's where at right

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<v Speaker 1>now we're in a place with this football team, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean from top to bottom this boat. When you

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<v Speaker 1>come into a football season, okay, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>let met when you come into a football season, right you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna use a ship's s h I P

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<v Speaker 1>s y careful that I'm gonna use. I'm gonna use

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<v Speaker 1>a Jerry side yacht to give this illustration when you

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<v Speaker 1>come into a football season, right, everybody has to board

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<v Speaker 1>and be paddling this yacht in the same direction. The

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<v Speaker 1>same direction means through September December headed to whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl destination is in that year. This year happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be Tampa. Now, during this voyage on this yacht,

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<v Speaker 1>on this boat, there are times where your boat and

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<v Speaker 1>not times. There are always going to be moments in

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<v Speaker 1>this journey where there's holes in your boat and water

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<v Speaker 1>begins to come into your boat. Now, the good teams,

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<v Speaker 1>those who have great leadership, great ownership, great coach raying,

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<v Speaker 1>great players. They are able to get the water out

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<v Speaker 1>of the boat, patch up the holes, and keep their

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<v Speaker 1>journey moving to their destination. The bad teams, when the

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<v Speaker 1>water begins to come in, they panic. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>good leadership, whether it's in front office coaching or good

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<v Speaker 1>leadership players, whatever. And now the water begins to come in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's another hole, and then before you know it,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a multitude of holes in this boat. And

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's able to get the water out fast enough before

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<v Speaker 1>this boat gets to sink. And you find yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of nowhere, sinking fast, and no one has answers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this is where the cowboys are at today.

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<v Speaker 1>Their boat is sinking. So the water has come in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many holes on this boat, on this Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>size yacht, there's so many holes. And as Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>or you can say slash Jerry, slash Mike, slash team,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you want to call it, that front office slash

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<v Speaker 1>head coaching. Right, the the the the thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>say that the captain must go down with the ship. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So while people are now trying to jump ship. Well

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't me, it was them. Well it wasn't us,

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<v Speaker 1>it was them. Well they can't follow directions, Well they

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<v Speaker 1>can't coach. See now everybody's looking for the life raft.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody looking for that little boat, the little life raft,

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<v Speaker 1>to save themselves self preservation. As this boat is beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to sinking. Nobody now is is shedding water from this boat.

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<v Speaker 1>No one is now patching up these holes. Everyone now

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<v Speaker 1>is an extreme self preservation. And now you have a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach who's entered into this situation and not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>the magnitude of this yacht that he was on, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's looking around and he's trying to stay tight, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything around him is so chaotic. The boat is goot it,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's frustrated. This boat is sinking fast, and the

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<v Speaker 1>frustration is no one has an answer. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating part. No one has an answer. You can't find players,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't find coaches, you can't find trades. Ain't nobody coming.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be healthy because the people that you need

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<v Speaker 1>they done. The tackle's done, the quarterbacks done, the people

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<v Speaker 1>are done. The good guys, the good free agents are gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Players are settled into their teams, and no one has answered,

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<v Speaker 1>and this boat is sinking so fast. Everyone is going

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<v Speaker 1>into self preservation. And the owner of the boat, right

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<v Speaker 1>whose names on the side of the boat. When everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>asking questions, they're saying, well, what happened to the boat?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you were the maker of this boat, you wore

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<v Speaker 1>the you were the proprietor of this boat. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>explain to us why this boat which was so on

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<v Speaker 1>paper like the Titanic, so well being, so well be

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<v Speaker 1>It's the it's the next coming to the greatest anti

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<v Speaker 1>anti sink, Yes, sinking question now from the hood, you

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<v Speaker 1>from the hood anti sink, not anti sank. She questioning

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<v Speaker 1>when you start questioning the maker of the ship, say

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<v Speaker 1>it has no answers. Yes, certain frustration sits in you

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<v Speaker 1>got it, thank frustrations on it, Oh, frustration his own

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<v Speaker 1>because he has he has no answer. Well, when you

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<v Speaker 1>have no answer in this situation and everybody's watching you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to hear the same thing, and every

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<v Speaker 1>week you're hearing the same like every we can, we can,

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot, we can turn whatever the game is. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to know the opponent. We can just press play,

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<v Speaker 1>and I bet you the presser sounds the same from

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<v Speaker 1>week one to week seven or eight, whatever, and just

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<v Speaker 1>keep pressing play and it sounds the same. We gotta execute,

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta no no no no no no, no no no.

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<v Speaker 1>If the questions are still coming the same each week

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<v Speaker 1>and the answer are the same, the still seek weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and we're still getting the same results each week, that

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<v Speaker 1>means we don't have answers. He does not have answers.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you don't have answers, you result to frustration.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and a part of frustration for Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>and others is embarrassment. Is embarrassment because you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be this unsinkable ship. You're supposed to be this mighty yacht.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to be this grandio soul of an establishment,

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<v Speaker 1>but you look like the little paddle boat who just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get it right. And when that happens, frustration and

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassment comes in. And that's when God's begin to last out. Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate's gotta answer, Nate's gotta fixed to all this? What

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Nate, ain'tybod time to go to break? Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on? If you got an answer answer, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can monetize it, because if you got the answers, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to monetize those thing so that we can get

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<v Speaker 1>paid and we can. I got me and Kurt came

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<v Speaker 1>with the same answers yesterday. I think you gotta let

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<v Speaker 1>everybody jump off the ship. M I'm serious. If you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you let everybody jump off the ship, the ship

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<v Speaker 1>gonna rise up. Get all the start, get all the luggage,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all get it. It's gonna rise up. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>go and get them electric pumps that nobody thought you

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<v Speaker 1>had and pump that thing out and you ease on

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<v Speaker 1>into the harbor. Now you're gonna be blowing black smoke,

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<v Speaker 1>but you ease onto the harbor, and you get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of all that access luggage, all that deadweight, and and

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<v Speaker 1>you start a fresh You patch the ship up, you

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<v Speaker 1>get a new haul, and you do what you gotta do,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's all right to be embarrassed. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>your big yacht. Got got got lambased that you went

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<v Speaker 1>into the Fia waters and you got blasted. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but now you're back on safe grime. And Kurt and

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<v Speaker 1>myself yesterday had the right asses purge perch Per sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like sounds like, uh, you know, they said one. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think another thing Jerry said in his interview today

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<v Speaker 1>was was let me find that quote. Um, but see

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<v Speaker 1>now myself Everson Griffin. Yeah, he said, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>correct it. We'll change some personnel for sure. We just

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<v Speaker 1>have to step in here and make adjustments. So and

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<v Speaker 1>then then there's yes, like Nate said, there's rumors now

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<v Speaker 1>that Everson griffins up for on the trading block and

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<v Speaker 1>probably many others. So maybe maybe they're starting to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one other writer today that said, because of

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries, all that remains is an overwhelming group of

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<v Speaker 1>guy guys who are either too young to know better

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<v Speaker 1>or too old to care enough. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of interesting and that he may be right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of these young guys are looking

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<v Speaker 1>to the two older guys for leadership, and maybe these

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<v Speaker 1>older guys are just like, yeah, you know, I'll get that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you, man, Jimmy, let the old young

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<v Speaker 1>guys take over. You have to let It's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I ran to the wrong guy, but I ran to

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<v Speaker 1>him wide open, coach. It's all right. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>this year, it's all right as long as you start

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<v Speaker 1>to move towards the future. And I understand that we

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<v Speaker 1>got ten games left for how many games left? And

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that we're gonna win the division with six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven wins. That's fine, but do it with young guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even fool yourself with these older guys coming into

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<v Speaker 1>next year when you go and have team meetings, which

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't gonna be no more clearing for no virus.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you have team meetings this year, workouts this year,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to say, Gyle, the Cowboys are young. The

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<v Speaker 1>average astro and m is twenty seven. That's what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say. The oldest guy you want on your

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<v Speaker 1>team is gonna be dat and if you're older than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta go. I'm just being honest, man, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you I heard on the flagship station when I can

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<v Speaker 1>padre say, mister Jones, don't want to do a rebuild.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather do a rebuild and see promise than to

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<v Speaker 1>be eight and eight every year and go down in flames.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that was a great analogy that you gave. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, throw over all baggage. Lighting this ship, get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of always let it rise up a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hundred feet, ease into the harbor. Call the tug boats,

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<v Speaker 1>let a meesia into the harbor. You know, get and

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<v Speaker 1>and pass you this thaying up called the best welds

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<v Speaker 1>you got, and fix this big thing, and let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back out with some fresh with some with a fresh admiral.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about coaches. I'm talking about players.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying, Nate, is kind of almost what

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<v Speaker 1>you and Kurt are saying is commos almost in conjunction.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I kind of said yesterday speaking to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who is who is very well respected, who's been in

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<v Speaker 1>this league and in that this is a rebuild and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going and a thing about a rebuild this you

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<v Speaker 1>you would like for it to be on the the

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<v Speaker 1>quicker side, yes, sir, Yes, sir, But a rebuild nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take you two three years before you can cycle

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<v Speaker 1>enough players, whether that be young drafted guys or free

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<v Speaker 1>agents or combination of both, to get them all in

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<v Speaker 1>sync and all jelly. So my question now to you

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<v Speaker 1>is if if we come to that point, if we're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing the ship into the harder harbor. We're calling all

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<v Speaker 1>our welders, we're calling all the people to patch this

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<v Speaker 1>thing up, and we're getting a new crew. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the timeline that you are willing to comfortably give Mike McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott and others to turn this thing around? Because

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<v Speaker 1>this year's this year and a half ahead. We're let's

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<v Speaker 1>pay some bills before you. We're gonna give you about

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half minutes to think about it, because

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<v Speaker 1>once you take did you out of the bottle, Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't put him back? Yes, sir, Yes, sir. We

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<v Speaker 1>want you to be sure, so we're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>time to think about it. We go to break it

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<v Speaker 1>will be right in the bottom me Kurts. Nate's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you a timeline. He's gonna fix this thing when

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<v Speaker 1>need to get nit a coffee. Coffee read Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna telling here man. I'm telling him man wee

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<v Speaker 1>You can never mess up coffee. It's always the way

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<v Speaker 1>to fix. A little cream here, a little sugar there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can always fix coffee. I believe that. Believe. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you drink your coffee and then it bigger the lips,

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<v Speaker 1>the better the smack. How do you drink your coffee straight? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I drink it straight. When I'm on the road

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<v Speaker 1>one or two in the morning, I drank it black

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<v Speaker 1>with a little sugar. Then as the morning get in place,

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<v Speaker 1>All rights, restate your question, and then we will step

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<v Speaker 1>aside and let Nate fix this thing. And Kurt and Date. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so yesterday we talked about I said, I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was very knowledgeable and close to uh this

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<v Speaker 1>team and said this team is about three or four

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<v Speaker 1>maybe three or four years from a rebuild. And then

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<v Speaker 1>today Kurt and Nate, you guys are both saying the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to fix this ship ship, it's to just

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<v Speaker 1>start overhauling. Let me get rid of the baggage, let

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<v Speaker 1>guys go and basically put this thing to rebuild. So

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<v Speaker 1>my question to YouTube and Chris and Shannon and to

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<v Speaker 1>the many thousands and thousands of people listening. What is

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<v Speaker 1>a reasonable because we are we're listening. Let's make no mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we all unanimously agree on this. This

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<v Speaker 1>team is in a rebuild. It's time, it's in a rebuild.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a comfortable timeline for Mike McCarthy, Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>and those that they keep. What is a comfortable timeline

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<v Speaker 1>to get this thing turned around? I remember the fan

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<v Speaker 1>base that you're dealing with as a as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, not as a player or a coach or

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<v Speaker 1>an owner, but as a fan. What is your what

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<v Speaker 1>do you what do you say? Okay, after X number

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<v Speaker 1>of time, I need a championship or whatever. Okay, allow

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<v Speaker 1>me to walk you through this, and at any time, Kirch,

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<v Speaker 1>you can interject. Since me and you partners in arms

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<v Speaker 1>on this, let me say this right here. It starts

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<v Speaker 1>this year, this game with the Eagles. You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>worry about this year. Hard to do as a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't worry about it. Whatever happens happen. If

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<v Speaker 1>you get in the playoffs, get knocked and beat down

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round, that's cool. You still get a

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<v Speaker 1>decent pick. If you're blow it. The rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>way and then win before more games you get even

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<v Speaker 1>greater pick. I'm not worried about that, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to win, I'm not worried about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>next year, that's the clock starts. You don't touch your

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<v Speaker 1>offense unless you truly, truly, truly, truly have to get

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks. You don't touch your offense. You let that stay.

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<v Speaker 1>You're even your fifteen million dollars running back. Who's who's

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<v Speaker 1>just the numbers say you. Every year he's been in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, his number had to decline, and this year

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<v Speaker 1>he's at an all time low. Jesse, I knew you're

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<v Speaker 1>just waiting to say, now, listen to me, now, let

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<v Speaker 1>me talk. I knew you were waiting to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me you heard tell me to shut up, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me to shut up. Tell me this is you heard

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<v Speaker 1>me preference this Kurt and Shanna. I said, do not

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<v Speaker 1>touch that offense unless you truly, truly can get you

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<v Speaker 1>some draft picks. Don't touch it. And if somebody willing

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<v Speaker 1>to get up a first, are they willing to get

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<v Speaker 1>up give up a high sucker? Okay, then you look

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<v Speaker 1>at maybe touching your your your your offense. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only saving grace we have. That's the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>that that Dak and the rest of these guys could

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Defensively, it's where you need to fix. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I say you get you don't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>this year, play it out. But next year, in six

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<v Speaker 1>to eight games into the following year, that's when you

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<v Speaker 1>should see a tremendous difference and an upswing and an uptick.

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<v Speaker 1>It don't if you feel your quarterback after this injury.

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<v Speaker 1>If you feel your quarterback is your man, now that's

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<v Speaker 1>a decision the upper management got to make. Is your man.

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<v Speaker 1>You will see that uptick. But you cannot by no

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<v Speaker 1>means bring in another guy that's older than twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>years old to this defense. You cannot draft ever again

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<v Speaker 1>guys with injuries and red flags all over themselves on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go out and get quality guys at

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<v Speaker 1>any position that's open. And then if you're a draft

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<v Speaker 1>board open ups next year and they say another CD

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<v Speaker 1>lamb fall to you, you have to be strong enough

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know what, not this year we have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing on defense. That is what's killing us now. Besides Zeke,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm getting to Zeke. Zeke has hurt us tremendously

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<v Speaker 1>with the turnovers. A lot of backs usually don't recover.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he unique enough to recover? Where we'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this year. But only you're only fixing

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, and that's your defense. So I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half, and I'm talking about from

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<v Speaker 1>starting next year to six games the following year are

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<v Speaker 1>eight games. It's a year and a half fixed. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too many teams that have been fully ready on

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<v Speaker 1>one side of the football and they put their assets

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<v Speaker 1>into the other side. Two years ago, Pittsburgh was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the same place where their offense was explosive and

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<v Speaker 1>making things happen, and they needed to fix on defense

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<v Speaker 1>and through their draft and through going out and getting

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<v Speaker 1>these well. I know safety is a bad word. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a plague type word getting them as safety. Check the records.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing. This is not a hard fix. Agree a disagree, Kurt, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's possible to put it if they

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<v Speaker 1>start now. I think it's possible to put a good

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<v Speaker 1>team on the field next year if you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>full off season of McCarthy's program, if you've got obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries you need guys to come back healthy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they can turn it around relatively quickly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL has shown teams can go from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the playoffs to contending the next year. Where

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of disagree some with Nate, is I to me,

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<v Speaker 1>if I can get high draft picks, if I can

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<v Speaker 1>get young players. You know, I'm open for anybody. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've got an offer to make me on an offensive player,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening. I mean, if I can get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke's contract, bringing a younger, you know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>well documented that, you know, running backs can be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>easy to replaced, and a young guy, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>kid that Gibson ran all over us against Washington's a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie this year. So I mean, if I can give

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<v Speaker 1>it to his contract, I'm d ernest d Ernest Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. Since in Cleveland and you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we have we have yeah, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>have three Pro Bowl caliber receivers, and that's a luxury

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<v Speaker 1>that you would hate to give up. But how many

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>teams in this league are having success? Yeah exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know what I hate to lose. A Gallup,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallup of course, I mean, he's an outstanding player.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that brings me picks, if that brings me

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<v Speaker 1>young guys that can help me out on defense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of good teams out there that only

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<v Speaker 1>have one good receiver, one all star receiver, have maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two all star receivers. Cowboys have three. I mean, that's

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty nice to have. But when you're so weak

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>in so many other areas, you got to give some

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff up if you want to, if you truly want

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to rebuild and make this overall team better. Remember, this

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is the problem we were supposed to have solved, Jesse,

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the Beard, Chris and Kurt. The problem we were supposed

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>to have solved. Just thinking was we were supposed to

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>have better coaching and a better defensive scheme, am I correct,

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and special teams. We were supposed to have those problems solved.

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Are close to being solved this late into the season.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Those problems still remain. Now, is it? You know? And Jesse,

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm axing you this and I'm gonna be quiet. Is

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it the coaches or is it the players? Maybe maybe

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going down the wrong road. Maybe the players are

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>all right now and we know we are talking about

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>defensive line example, we know they're not right. I'm talking

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>about the rest of the guys. No, it's it's both.

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>It's both, it's it's I do think when it comes

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>there's two parts that I always say when it comes

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to coaching. One and I said to see the other day.

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I said it jokingly, but I mean this, like Mike

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy hooked this boy up, and it's you know what

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. He hooked the homie up, and the homie

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>is costing them. The homie is not good. Like you

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>gave your homie the job. There's a reason why Mike

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Nolan wasn't a defensive coordinator in this league for the

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>last four seasons. And the last time he was a

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator, his team finished just about where our defense

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>is finishing. That's that's not by happenstance, damn it. That's

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>by what you put out on the field, right. And

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>so he hooked his homie up, and we can say, yo, listen,

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you hooked your homie up. We get it right, the

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>homie and all of us understand you hooked your homie up.

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Most of us got our job because our homie hooked

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>us up. You hooked us up and your homie costs you.

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Now you gotta fire your homie. Right. The second thing is,

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and Nate, I think you and I will agree on

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>this one, is if you brought a man in here

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to do something that he is supposed to be specialized at,

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>let him do it. If you brought Mike McCarthy in

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>here to be a specialized play caller, let him do it.

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Those are two things right there. When I come to

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>when when it comes to coaching, where I would say

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a coaching problem, but there's also a player problem.

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>They are not good players on this football field, okay,

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>defensive line, linebackers and secondary and so there's a combination

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>of both and you have to address them. And with

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>anything in life, when you're talking about business type situations,

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>at times you're going to have to make the tough decisions,

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>one being you know what I might have to I

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta fire my homie, you know what I mean. He

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>looked me out back and when he had his chance,

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I looked him out. He didn't live up to the

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>end of the bargain. I got you the job, but

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you ain't doing what you gotta do to get me

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to look good. So I gotta let you go, and

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>then I gotta get players who understand that in cover three,

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I have this third of the field that I can't

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>be looking in the backfield, you know what I'm saying

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. That's that's a player issue. Do

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you think that Geo and Jie listens regularly? Thanks Ji?

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>He posed this question which I wonder. This is one

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>reason why I think we need to start this rebuild now.

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Is that you know, you've got young rookies like Lamb

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and Digs. Are they developing bad work habits now because

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>they see, you know, the Vets apparently have bad work habits.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Is this kind of this he calls it a bad

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>apple syndrome, something we need to worry about for the

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>future to I mean, they need to make these changes

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>now that if they're really serious about changing the culture,

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>don't they You know what, course you're not even get

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>an argument from me a jes on that, man. It's

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>just you've tied money up into these guys. Man, But

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>if you want to get better and I can't tell

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, money, I can't tell a man what to

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>do with his money. But sometimes you have to take

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a loss. Sometimes you have to take a hit. Sometimes

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you just have to go out and get a player

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna try hard, you know, like young seventy nine,

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I got in my Hamlet and the big

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Hamilton's two on the team. You know, I would tell him,

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>man Son, you can get ready to play sixty snaps,

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Antoine was, I need a strong forty from you,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Crawford, give me your thirty five plays, you know,

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and then the rest of the guys we'll fit you

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in if we can. You know, it's about it's about

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>will and desire. Now, Man, you know you're sitting here

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>with two free agents who everything we got we had

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to work through. Yes, coaches gave us breaks, put put

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>up with our lack of abilities in certain ways and

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>certain times. The owner several times will save my bacon,

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, when a lot of times people like get

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>rid of the fat guy. He's saved my bacon. But

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, when it comes tigned, when it's you against

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>the team or you next to the team, the player

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>got to lose, Man, The player got to lose because

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the fifty three other guys got to be got to

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>be satisfied. And knowing that you're gonna that they can

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>trust in you to do the best thing for the team.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's take our last break. When we come back,

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you guys, that is, in fact,

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll pose the question now and then you tell me

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>what you think when come back from the break. You're

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about possible about rebuilding. It needs to start now.

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>And you have a free agent quarterback after this year

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that we all think is the future of this franchise.

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>If you go into rebuild mode now, does that affect

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the way that he makes decisions after the season. Does

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that make him more likely to sign here because he

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>knows you're building around him, or does that make him

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>less likely because he's in the prime of his career

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna lose valuable games maybe a season, maybe

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>two seasons if you go into quote unquote rebuild mode.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what you guys think as former

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>players on that, and Kurt, as not a former player,

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I would love to know your thoughts on that. Since

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>we're since we're talking about hypotheticals in this show today,

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>which you know we normally don't deal in hypotheticals, but

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys took it down this road. So we'll continue

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:09.160
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<v Speaker 1>So back to my question, we're hypothetically talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you go into rebuild mode? When do you start?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? How long does it take to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of it? You've got a your franchise quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that couldn't get a deal done this year, You've got

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>franchise tag going into next year. If let's just say,

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>hypothetically you do go into rebuild mode, how does that

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>affect his decision making process with signing or resigning with

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>this team as a as a player? Jesse and Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested. Are you encouraged that you're getting pieces around

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<v Speaker 1>you that you need to be successful or are you

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're him in the prime of your career, you

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>look at it like I'm losing valuable time by going

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 1>through something like this. Here, I'm gonna be I'm gonna

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>be brief, I'm I promise, so I'm gonna be brief.

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it. I do not believe I promise you,

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I promise you if you just let if you just

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you just be quiet, shann't let me talk twenty seconds.

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>We've seen all that we need to see that this

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>that that that Prescott is not the issue on this

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>football team. And if you don't want him, not the

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>leadership in the helm of your quarterback, then you are

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>absolutely bugging two. If they franchise Dot, that's all I

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>need to know as a player. You don't believe in

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>me and you don't want me a part of this team.

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 1>So let me go out to this franchise. Yeah, because

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I ain't signing with you. Go ahead, Nate. We talked

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>about the same thing yesterday, Jess, and I tell you,

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like this right here, man, If this thing don't start

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>with that, then the rebuild goes from a year and

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>a half after this season, it's about four years unless

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you go one and unless you go two and whatever

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and have a chance at these two young quarterbacks, and

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it's still gonna take three or four more years. And

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>don't and don't tweet Jess as a fan, because I

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>don't respond to tweets. Don't tweet jess as a fan.

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Somebody'd be better than that. Come on, man, you're gonna

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>cry and moan and groan and dog got the quarterback.

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>We can get the kid from Clempson. It's still gonna

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>take him three four years. This ain't This ain't North Texas.

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>He thrown against Home? What exactly I mean even through

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the NFCC is the Big South Conference? Hey, I'm talking more.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking more of Dak's point of view? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>does he would have been a part of this Shannon, Yes,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>I would say this again. This thing starts with Da.

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<v Speaker 1>If they franchise him, Tombo, we want to see what

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<v Speaker 1>your anchor gonna be like, and get this kid a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to get out of here and say, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee team that got their quarterback. Man, when they got

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>their quarterback, everybody laughed, But Tennessee, all it was missing

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>was a quarterback. Maybe it's a team out there like

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<v Speaker 1>a San Francisco who just the only thing they're missing

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>is that stud quarterback. A Chicago, Yeah, that's just missing

0:40:56.360 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>their quarterback. Now, all of a sudden, Da goes over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and half the haters say good riddens, and half of

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<v Speaker 1>us be like well, we're gonna wait and see. We've

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>been burned enough. We're gonna wait and see, and you

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>don't go out and getting the right guy to come

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>in here and run this ship. It ain't gonna matter

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<v Speaker 1>whether Mike McCarthy called him plays or who the defensive

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>coordinating is, because you're not gonna win. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go from a year and a half deal that

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<v Speaker 1>me and Kurt Is thoughtfully came up with four years,

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna go down years minimum. The rebuild starts with Dad.

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>They gotta get him signed, and probably his price is

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<v Speaker 1>only going up now. But I think even with that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he I would think Dak is asking for

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<v Speaker 1>a rebuild because he knows the offense is you know,

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>we know the offense is good. It's tweaked, you can

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>tweak it whatever. He can't win with this defense. If

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 1>they don't start rebuilding the defense, it doesn't matter what

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>he does. He can't throw it fifty times a game

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 1>and for five yards. So I mean, if i'm Dak,

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, please fix this thing. Get it done. I'm

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>out hurt injured this year anyway, go through the hard

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>knocks this year. Start the process now, let's get going

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 1>for next year. Hey, you know, I'm gonna take Jesse's

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 1>analogy and I'm gonna get us some shirts made that

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>we wear on this shirt. Don't do that. This ship.

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 1>We're not going back fixed this Rich, thanks this ship. Rich.

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh speaking up. Did you guys see where Dan signed

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:35.240
<v Speaker 1>with Baltimore to the practice squad? I did? Yeah, congrat

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<v Speaker 1>to him, man, happy, Thank God for you. Thank Dan's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna understand what discipline is because the Ravens don't play.

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>He about to find out do you do? You do?

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 1>You do? You do? You get to see what it

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>is later in your career to say, wow, I thought

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be a part of this team and

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.280
<v Speaker 1>do what was right. Now I have no other choice

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>but to do us right. Jesse, what you go ahead?

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna we signed a punter to our

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>practice squad. I mean, so stop stop, Kurt? Yeah, what

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>is stopt mean? You just parted ways? I mean, actually

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it's probably a pretty smart move with COVID, but it

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>just kind of it's sort of odd. You know, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>wanting all these moves made with defense, but we signed

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<v Speaker 1>a putter, so you know, we got about two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and since you just dominated this show again today, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you go out do your fad Jess. David David

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Moore rode into Dallas Morning News. This season is taken

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>on the same dark tone that that one did ten

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.919
<v Speaker 1>years ago. The same sense of hopelessness hangs in the air.

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 1>And that's the year that Wade Phillips was fired. Jesse.

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>You were a part of that team. Does this feel

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>similar to that to to you? Or is this just

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 1>a totally different animal than than it was when Wade

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 1>was here? And we'll Coach mccarthur, playbook get bigger out,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you get shot taking the you know what. It most

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>definitely will because he has a he has a he

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>has a long line of plays that he knows in

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>his head that he's worked with his old life. So

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the playbook will get bigger, It'll will get more expansive,

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>it will grow, but it does. And the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>it's similar to what we had back then the ice

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<v Speaker 1>right now, these players don't care. They don't care, and

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't and people always say, well, they don't want

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>to play for the coach, They don't want to play

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 1>for themselves, like they don't want to play for themselves.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the part that I never understand. People say, well,

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to, they don't want to play for themselves.

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>They they they don't want to put the work in,

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>they don't care their attitude, my check coming every Tuesday,

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>whether y'all like it or not, and so they just

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>don't care. And those are the kind of guys that

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you have when you have enough of them and they

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 1>infiltrate your locker room, it's a cancer and it you know,

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, crowded. I don't want to use that term

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of someone who's actually, you know, battled it and beat it.

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't want to be insensitive to you

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. But it's it's it's something that

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 1>gets inside of you and it begins to destroy the

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>structure of who you are. And that's what's happening. It's

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's players in this locker room who are destroying

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the structure of who this team is. And Jesse feels

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot like it couldn't you use an analogy like

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like a bad case of gas, Like it just

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>gets in and you just gotta get it out, Like

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>why why'd you have to go with the season. I

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I felt bad worse than him. Yeah, that'd

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:37.479
<v Speaker 1>be looking at Yall Walls man, Wow, that is great. Jesse.

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 1>You close, You open the show up perfectly. And Shannon

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>said yesterday that you would dominate this show too when

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you did. And you open the show up perfectly, you

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>closed it perfectly. Jesse. You from Jesse. You open the show,

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you closed it, and you feel the middle and like

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>an Oreo cookie, you just took the whole show and

0:45:57.080 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>just made it. You put it up chef ladies and

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>gentlemen tomorrow. I got a chef jacket. I'm putting on

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>my chef jacket tomorrow. And then shouting at the end,

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>gave us that up in the back of the standard

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>analogy we didn't need. You can tell you hang out

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>in the stands by yourself at the game. Oh fellas,

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>we can move on to the next game. Let's move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the Eagles tomorrow. Cowboys offense, office their defense. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be you know what. Let's just talk about

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>show about this. Who win? Nate looking good, Kurt good scene,

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and Jesse. I like the I like the jersey. Chris Bean,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for keeping us on the air. This has been

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of Hanging with the Boys. We'll be back tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>same time, same place, See you then later. This has

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