1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there, 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer with iHeart Podcasts and how the 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: tech are you Well. I'm still working on some really 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: big and complicated tech Stuff episodes, and as a result, 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: I thought that it'd be fun to take a listen 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: to a really, really really old episode of tech Stuff. 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: This one came out way back on November two, two 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, and the title of the episode is 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: called how Podcasting Works, But I honestly think that title 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: is not really that accurate. I think it would be 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: more like history of tech Stuff slash podcasting Tips. Now. 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: At this time, this was when Chris Palette was co 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: host of the show, and we talk a little bit 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: about the fact that Chris was also the original co 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: host with Josh of stuff. You should know, which is 17 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: just kind of a fun little bit of trivia, is that, 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: you know, Chris had been one of the first people 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: on The House Stuff Work's staff to podcast. He recorded 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: several episodes with Josh before Chuck ended up taking over 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: that spot and then the rest, as they say, is history, 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: and Chris got saddled with me. We recorded quite a 23 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: few episodes together before Chris moved on. He decided he 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: wanted a career change and he went to pursue a 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: career in library science, which is pretty awesome. And meanwhile, 26 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: I've been back here helming the Tech Stuff Ship ever since. 27 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: So listen to this classic episode How Podcasting Works, published 28 00:01:54,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: November second, two thousand and nine, and enjoy today going 29 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: to talk about some podcasting tips. We actually get a 30 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: lot of requests to do an episode about podcasting, and. 31 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: We keep coming up with the reasons why we shouldn't 32 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: do it today. Right today, we decided to do it today. 33 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: We're like, you know what, We're going to get this 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: out of the way. 35 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: You know why, because if we weren't doing How Podcasting Works, 36 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: you know what we would be doing cantennis or tech 37 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. Oh yeah, two other ones that we keep 38 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: putting off. 39 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Actually, just between you and us, we're not supposed to 40 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: talk about the tech conspiracy. 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. They don't want you to know, So 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about podcasting instead. Now, we've had a lot 43 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: of people ask us things, everything ranging from what kind 44 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: of equipment do we use? What kind of software do 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: we use, and just general tips on podcasting, So people 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: who want to get into podcasting, what should they do, 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: what should they avoid doing? And a lot of the 48 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: stuff that we have learned over the course of our 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: what year and a half of podcasting, mainly we've learned 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: through trial and error. Wow half. Yeah, sorry, Yeah, and 51 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: it's pretty much been a year and a half. And yeah, 52 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and he's he's right. 53 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Actually, we were one of the very first podcasts at 54 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,279 Speaker 2: how Stuff. 55 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Works Yeah com and we followed Stuff you Should Know 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: and stuff you missed in history class. Yeah, so we 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: were the third one. Yeah, Marshall Brains. Marshall Brain has 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: been doing one for a while. 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: Right, He was doing a podcast in a blog sort 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: of independently from the group for a long time. And 61 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: then and then we jumped on board. And actually when 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: when I was the first Josh's first co host on 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: Stuff you Should Know. 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Right, So you've been doing this longer than just about 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: anyone else besides Josh. True. 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: True, But it's funny because we tried a bunch of 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: different stuff. We've actually had uh, we got we've gotten 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: some comments over the course of the last year and 69 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: a half, like you know. 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Who writes this stuff? Right? 71 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: And the answer is nobody. 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 73 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: We actually, Josh and I tried a little bit writing 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: some of the stuff out and that just totally we 75 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: tried to test with that and that totally didn't work. 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Just tech stuffs. We we outlined the heck out of 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: those early early shows. 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so. 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk Let's talk about the genesis of tech 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: stuff in general, and then we'll talk about some of 81 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the equipment we use, and then we'll give some podcasting tips. 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: How about that? 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: That sounds great? 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: See, you know, this is the sort of stuff that 85 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: we used to talk about before the show, and we 86 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: would outline it and we would go point by point. 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: We don't do that anymore, which is why we kind 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: of go through things in a haphazard way. 89 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: Although I do feel compelled to point out that not 90 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: all the podcasters here at how Stuffworks dot Com go 91 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: buy that theory. Now, Yeah, in general, we do try 92 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: to be conversational. 93 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: I mean, that's there. 94 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 2: Nobody's I don't know of anybody that scripts out what 95 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: they're going to say when they come on to the podcast. 96 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: But I think everybody pretty much, you know, just has 97 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: a good rapport with his or her co host, and 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: it's sort of a Okay, we're going to talk about 99 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: these ten things. Make sure we cover this or that. 100 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Jonathan and I are just sort of looser about it, don't. 101 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: We don't meet beforehand like some of the other podcasters do. 102 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, everyone as their own style. We'll get to 103 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: we'll get to style in a little bit. So let's 104 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: let's do the history of tech stuff Sour our editor 105 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: in chief, came to us. Connell Byrn, He came to 106 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: us and said, guys, we want you to do a 107 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: podcast about technology. Think you would blow it out of 108 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: the park. You'll be super rock stars, that kind of thing. 109 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: And I had looked around and said, I'm sorry. 110 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: What are you talking right? 111 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: And I was like, let me go. 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: I want to do it, Let's do it now. And 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: uh so we were told at that time that we 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: were trying you know, this, this was brand new for us. 115 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: It was not something that house Stuffworks dot com had 116 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: been doing before. Besides Marshall's podcast and the this is 117 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: before even Stuff you Should Know had started to publish. 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: This was just before it started to publish. So at 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: that time, since we were all kind of new to this, 120 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: we decided to put some limitations and some parameters up 121 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: to kind of give us a framework so that we 122 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't just flail around the way we do. 123 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: Now, let's speak for yourself. I flail pretty handily, thank you, Mitchell. 124 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So the very the very first rules were that 125 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 1: the episodes had to be around five minutes in length, 126 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: and they were supposed to relate back to a specific 127 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: article on the site. 128 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: Wow, that just makes me want to laugh. 129 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't do that anymore. 130 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: We don't. 131 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: We don't do either of those things anymore. Now. Now 132 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: other podcasts they do, they'll they'll still cover specific articles, 133 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: which is fine. We just that we don't have to do. Yeah, 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: we're no longer required to do that, but we can 135 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: do that if we want to. And we've done a 136 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: couple of episodes where we've talked about specific articles, but 137 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: fortunately we're no longer restricted to just that. So back then, 138 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: we discovered very quickly that it was hard to get 139 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: into a topic and cover it in five minutes. Most 140 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: of our episodes were pushing seven or eight minutes easily, 141 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: because by the time we were telling me the introductions, 142 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: we had about two and a half minutes left to 143 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: explain whatever it was we were talking about. Yep. But 144 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: we also got feedback from our listeners that and the 145 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: most of the feedback said, you know, I like the podcast, 146 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: but it needs to be longer because you're not really 147 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: getting into the topic. So with that, we extended the 148 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: time to about ten minutes, right, We went from five 149 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: to ten. Yeah, And so if you look at those 150 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: early Tech Stuff episodes, you'll see the first few or 151 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: five minutes long, and then the next group is about 152 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: ten minutes, and then after that kind of explodes because 153 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: we were told one day we came in and that 154 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: was when Jerry was producing our show, Yeah, and she 155 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: told us one day like, oh, don't worry about the time, 156 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: just don't go over you know, twenty five minutes. That's 157 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: probably that's probably about the upper length of what we 158 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: want to hit. But other than that, you know, go 159 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: as long as you need to go to explain the topic. 160 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: And that's when our episodes really started to change. At 161 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: the same time that we had the five and ten 162 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: minute rule, we were outlining our episodes pretty heavily. Yeah, yeah, 163 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: because we had to make sure we hit that time limit, right. 164 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: We couldn't go over it, so we wanted to make 165 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: sure we knew what we needed to hit. We couldn't 166 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: just talk our way through it. 167 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we also when we had that was very 168 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: helpful when we had specific ideas that we wanted to 169 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: hit in the podcast too, which we don't always get 170 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: to In some cases. I've gone back and looked at 171 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: my notes on a couple podcasts and gone, oh, man, 172 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: I didn't talk about that. 173 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's happened to me too. 174 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: So you know that it can be useful to have 175 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: an outline, especially if you want to do that. But 176 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: then again, most of the time when we do that, 177 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: it's because we get so excited about whatever it is 178 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: that we're talking about, and then we have so much we 179 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: want to say about it that we just keep going. 180 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. So once those uh, once, once the format changed, 181 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: we we started to change our own methods, and we 182 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: began to realize that the more we try too short 183 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: well not yeah sometimes so we went to the German 184 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: opera range. But no, the we began to realize that 185 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: the more we would prepare together for a show that 186 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: we were about to do, the less conversational it was 187 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: and the more like lectury it sounded. You know. Yeah, 188 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: it didn't sound like we had two guys trying to 189 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: explain and talk about a topic and give it context. 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: It sounded like the pre recorded notes for some sort 191 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: of you know, technology lecture. And so we started to 192 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: do our own studying at that point, and then we 193 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: would just meet for the podcast and we'd each have 194 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: our own notes. We would sometimes share links if we 195 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: saw something that was really useful, so that the other 196 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: person would also have access to it and not just 197 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, come out of nowhere. But then we would 198 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: just we sit down at the microphones and hit record, 199 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: and then we would torture whoever it was that was 200 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: producing our show at the time with horrible puns as 201 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: we talked about whatever the topic was. 202 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a helpful tip that I would give you 203 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: if you're considering doing your own podcast. Make sure to 204 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: use plenty of puns. 205 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, because Lord knows everyone loves puns. Oh yeah, 206 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: Josh and Chuck are incredibly fond of puns. Yes, they 207 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: like puns the way I like pie. 208 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: You must hate pie a lot more than I thought 209 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: you did. 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Jonathan from twenty twenty four. So when we 211 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: recorded this episode back in two thousand and nine. It 212 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: was before we had monetized podcasting, so there were no 213 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: ad breaks built into the episode. That's why I'm here 214 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: to let you know. We're gonna listen to a couple 215 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: of ads and we'll be right back. So let's talk 216 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: a little bit about the equipment and software that we use. 217 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,479 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So what do you want to start with? Microphones? 218 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about the mic So we were asking 219 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: our producers about the microphones. Because you may find this 220 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: hard to believe, but even though we are the tech 221 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: writer and editor of howstuffarce dot com, we do not 222 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: have a database filled with every single piece of equipment 223 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: that is in our office. 224 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's true, and you know, sort of bridging 225 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: the gap between this history of tech stuff and the equipment. 226 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: There are. 227 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: One of the nice things about us getting into podcasting 228 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: in the first place was we already had a studio 229 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: available to us because there were other projects that we 230 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: used a lot of this equipment for. We already had, 231 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: you know, high end video equipment and audio equipment and 232 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: people who knew how to use it. So you know, 233 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: you don't necessarily this is not necessarily the setup we 234 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: already had some of the stuff. 235 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we we repurposed a lot of stuff that we 236 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: had for other projects, specifically for podcasting. We are not 237 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: saying that you need to go out and purchase similar 238 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: equipment because for one thing, it's probably out of a 239 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: lot of people's price range, none of my price range. Yeah, 240 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: it's definitely on a mind if I were to do 241 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: this on my own. But this is people have asked 242 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: us what we used, so I thought we would go 243 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: ahead and explain. So for our microphones, we use akgs 244 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: and they are C two thousand B microphones. We were 245 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: told by mister Matt Frederick that they are not omnidirectional, 246 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: despite the fact that they totally look like omnidirectional microphones. 247 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: But they're not. They're directional. They just have a wide 248 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: angle or wide cone that you can speak into, which 249 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: is a good thing because occasionally we'll, you know, lounge 250 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 1: in a weird way and just talk toward the microphone 251 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: and it still seems to pick us up pretty well. 252 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we also have a nice pop filter in front 253 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: of itself. 254 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: Yes, we do use pop filters because we don't want 255 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: to pump our pes. Nice. Yeah, we also have as 256 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: our pre amp. You don't necessarily have to have a 257 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: preamp if you've got a microphone that plugs directly into 258 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: say a USB port, but we aren't using that. We're 259 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: using a pre amp, the Applied Research and Technology pre amp, 260 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: and we have one of those per input. We have 261 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: got three of the preamps because we do have three inputs, 262 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: although we have not actually used the third one yet. Yeah, 263 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: Stuff you should know has used it for their healthcare series. 264 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: They had Molly in and she got to she set 265 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: in and joined Josh and Chuckers as we like to 266 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: call him, or sometimes listeners like to call me Chuckers 267 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: when they forget that my name's Jonathan. 268 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: Well you know Jonathan sounds like Chuck. 269 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. We haven't figured out, by the way, which one 270 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: of us should be more offended, Chuck should be more offended, 271 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: or if I should. Neither of us are really offended, 272 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: because you know, Chuck's a cool guy and yeah, and 273 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm not on his radar. So now, as for as 274 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: for the software we use, we're using uh Final Cut, right, Yeah, 275 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: so that's the that's the audio software we're using. We 276 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: record with soundtrack, which is part of that suite, and 277 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: then for all of our sound effects whenever we do soundscaping. 278 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: Liz pulls that from the suite as well. 279 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are using a Macintosh computer to do this, 280 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: but you there are software programs for Windows and Linux 281 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: both that can can do the same kinds of things, 282 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: specially so and. 283 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick also wanted to me to point out that 284 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: his favorite piece of equipment that we have. We're not 285 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: using it right now, but his favorite piece of equipment 286 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: is called the Blue Icicle and you can plug and 287 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: excel our microphone into this. It converts it to USB 288 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: and it actually has a volume control on the device itself, 289 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: so you can help control that the levels before it 290 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: ever reaches your computer. Yeah. 291 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, then the name of the company is Blue and 292 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: it is in Icicle. 293 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: Yes, so, but he wanted specifically for us to point 294 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: that out. So that's that's our setup. But here's the thing. Now, 295 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: we're going to get into some podcasting tips, and one 296 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: of the tips I would give people is don't sweat 297 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: the equipment and software that much. Yes, that's absolutely not 298 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: necessarily the that that should not be your number one 299 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: concern because if you're concerned with having the most technologically 300 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: advanced equipment and the most the software with the most features. 301 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: You might have a podcast that sounds really good, but 302 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: that that's not enough for listeners to tune into you 303 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: week after week. 304 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's uh, as long as you 305 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: have a quiet room, you know, something preferably without hard floors, 306 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: and yeah, something. 307 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Where you're not echo. 308 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you might. 309 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: You might even try out a couple of different settings, 310 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: especially if you have a laptop computer and something that 311 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: you know, something that simply plugs into your your machine 312 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: should be fairly easy for you to test a couple 313 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: different environments and see what sounds good to you. 314 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. I would suggest testing up several different 315 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: kinds of microphones maybe, Like there's some headsets that actually 316 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: aren't that bad. They actually provide a very decent sound. 317 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: At home, I use a snowball mic which works really 318 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: well for me. It's no omnidirectional mic, and it actually 319 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I like it a lot. But I use that with 320 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: my mat Yeah, and then a lot of you know, 321 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: I would probably recommend against using a native microphone on 322 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: a computer. I mean, some of them can pick up 323 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: some pretty well, but most of them you're not going 324 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: to get the best sound quality out of those. And 325 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: that's one thing I would say is getting an independent 326 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: microphone is probably a good purchase, a good investment. 327 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's sort of a very basic necessity. Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, 328 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: but you don't have to fork over, you know, hundreds 329 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: of dollars to do that. In fact, you can even 330 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: get a good XLR for less than a hundred dollars 331 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: really or maybe just over right. 332 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: You would just need to have the equipment to plug 333 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: it into exactly, so perhaps an icicle or a pre app. 334 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: Or a a you know, an expensive board. 335 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: It depends on how many inputs you're going to want 336 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: to use, too, because if you are, if you're going 337 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: to want to have, say, get your your friends together 338 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: and do a podcast with a bunch of people, you're 339 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: gonna need something to handle the different channels. Assuming you're 340 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: not all going to speak into one mic. Uh, it 341 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: could be a little cozy quarters there. 342 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about some other 343 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: stuff like uh, post production. OK, I just said, oh 344 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: right there, that was an uh, yes, I heard the uh. Now, 345 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: some podcasters would want to go in and take out 346 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: all the uzz ums, pauses, things like that, in order 347 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: to make a podcast sound more smooth and professional. 348 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: That would be really time consuming. 349 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: It takes so much time that that can take. Okay, 350 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: imagine a thirty minute long podcast and then you go 351 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: with yes and now you're going to you're gonna take 352 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: I keep doing. It will take you hours to get 353 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: the sounds of Palette screaming out of your podcast because 354 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: you're strangling him repeatedly throughout the Yeah. So, concerning yourself 355 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: with this, I think taking out really really bad stuff, 356 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: like stuff where it just it bringing the recording to 357 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: us halt, that's fine. But I wouldn't worry about any 358 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: of the small things because it gives you your podcast 359 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: a little character. People really talk like that. It's not 360 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: something to be ashamed of. Yeah, and unless you're like 361 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: some sort of professional voiceover actor or radio personality, you 362 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: probably haven't trained yourself to take that that stuff out 363 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: of your speech. I haven't, and I'm doing this as 364 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: part of my job. So that's all well and good. 365 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: However, nice radio now, Yeah, I think one of the 366 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: problems with that is, I mean, you sort of have 367 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: to think about what you're going to do here. But 368 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: I think that also makes it sound really flat. 369 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 370 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if you were reading off a script, you 371 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: don't have any ums or us it just it comes off. 372 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: As really really flat. Yeah, it doesn't. It's not very 373 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: inviting to the listener necessarily. Uh So, let's talk a 374 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: little bit more about some other tips. One of the 375 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: big tips I would I would give anyone who's getting 376 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: into podcasts is really, what's the purpose of your podcast? 377 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: To find that, figure out why you want you know, 378 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: why do you want a podcast? What is it that 379 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: you want to say? Is there a specific topic or 380 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: a category of information that you really want to talk about. 381 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: Is there a specific game that you want to do 382 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: a podcast about, or a specific television show or genre. 383 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: Don't you know? Doing a podcast about practically anything sounds 384 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: like it's very liberating, but it actually ends up being 385 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: really frustrating and difficult to pull off. Well. It also 386 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: is hard to get an audience because someone may have 387 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: a real interest in one topic, but your next topic 388 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: doesn't interest them at all because it's not at all 389 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: related to the first one. It's hard to build an 390 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: audience that way. 391 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: And one thing you. 392 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: Can consider too is limiting yourself more at the beginning, 393 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: because you can you can always change. You think back 394 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: to the early days of tech stuff, we had to 395 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: we had to talk about a specific article. So we 396 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: would look on the site for something that we wanted 397 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: to talk about and then okay, we got a topic, 398 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: a specific topic, and we you know, would riff on 399 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: that for five or ten minutes. Well, now, one of 400 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: the things that Jonathan and I like and I like 401 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: to try to do, I mean, other than answering listener mailes. 402 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: That's kind of been where we've been the last few weeks. 403 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: But you know, we've we want to try to come 404 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: up with something that's not on the website. But you know, 405 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 2: we still are working within the confines of computers and electronics, right. 406 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: But you know, it did give us a platform from 407 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: which to start, because we already had something to talk about. 408 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you could say, well, I want to talk 409 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: about everything, but maybe start with something you know, well, 410 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: like video games. And then maybe you say, well, I 411 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: like talking about video games, but what if I want 412 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: to talk about board games too, so you could have 413 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: a games podcast or. 414 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: Even like or yeah, exactly, I've been talking about role 415 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: playing games. Now maybe I should talk about this fantasy 416 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: movie that I really like and that'd be fine too. 417 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, having it grow organically is probably a good 418 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: tip as well, you know, don't you don't necessarily have 419 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: to force it into any kind of any specific Hey, 420 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: it's Jonathan from twenty twenty four. Again. We're gonna take 421 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: another quick break, but we'll be back to wrap up 422 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: this classic episode of tech Stuff that originally published back 423 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. So an easy way to 424 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: build an audience, A good dependable way pay them no 425 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: is to have a regular and dependable production schedule. Yes, 426 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: if you publish your podcast, you know, whenever you have time, 427 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: and that's it. And so it may be that you 428 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: push one out one week and then the next week 429 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: you have a second episode, and then it maybe three 430 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: or four weeks before you have a third episode. It's 431 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: very difficult to build an audience that way. People will 432 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: tend to to lose interest and start to leave. So 433 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: it's good to set up a schedule of publication and 434 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: stick to it as best you can. And part of 435 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: that that can be really challenging if you just you know, 436 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: some weeks you just don't have the time to do recording, right, 437 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, or you're sick with the swine flu. Yeah, 438 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: so what what what we do is Chris and I 439 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: will sit down, we record two podcasts at a time, 440 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: sometimes three uh in one recording session. Uh, and then 441 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: we do enough of these so that we've built up 442 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: a backlog of episodes so we can when when we 443 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: started publishing, we had actually recorded I don't know, maybe 444 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: six or seven episodes total before the first one ever 445 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: was released. 446 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: I think there may have been more of that. More 447 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: than that, It could have been as many as like 448 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: ten or twelve. Yeah, so they plus they wanted to 449 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: evaluate them. 450 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: We wanted to. 451 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: They had other people listening to them too to see 452 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: what they thought. And you know, they change, so, you. 453 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: Know, because it was a thing we were lucky they 454 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: didn't have to. They didn't want us to change too much. 455 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they they gave us the go ahead to 456 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: make them longer, and that was about it. But the yeah, 457 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you if you record them ahead of time, 458 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: if you do, if you do several episodes so that 459 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: you have a backlog, then you don't have to worry 460 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: so much on those times where you know you just 461 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: don't have the time to record, You've got episodes to 462 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: fall back on and you can keep publishing them even 463 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: if you had to take a break on recording. Now granted, 464 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: of course that's only gonna work for so long. You can't, 465 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: you can't. We found that out. Yeah, Yeah, we've we've 466 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: run Yeah, we ran out of the backlog a couple 467 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: of times and then had to go into some intense 468 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: recording sessions to build it back up. We're currently I 469 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: guess maybe a week and a half ahead something like that, 470 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: something like that. So at any rate, the the best 471 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: advice there is just make sure you've got a few 472 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: episodes recorded, uh, and and publish them, like I said, 473 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, whether that's once a week or 474 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: every day. I mean, if you're doing a daily podcast, 475 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: you're probably recording every day. Anyway, that might be a 476 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: little bit different. 477 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: That's like challenging. 478 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: Our episode is not necessarily timely. We aren't always tackling 479 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: something that's in the news, although we have done that before, 480 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: and we do a little of that on Tech Stuff Live. Yeah, 481 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: we've got a live streaming show that we handle most 482 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: of the timely stuff. We don't. We don't worry about 483 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: that so much in this podcast, although we have, like 484 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: I said, tackled some some fairly timely topics. Yeah. Yeah, 485 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: so if you're if you're not handling, if you're not 486 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: talking about something that is time sensitive, then you have 487 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: the luxury of being able to record as many as 488 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: you like before you start going live if it is 489 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: something that's time since, of course that does change things. 490 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: If you're doing something where you're you're discussing, say a show, 491 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: a television show, and you want the episode to go 492 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: up live the day after the television show airs, you 493 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: don't have that kind of flexibility. So, I mean, it 494 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: all will depend on your situation, but I do think 495 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: that if you can, if you can established that reliable 496 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: publication schedule, you will build an audience much faster than otherwise. 497 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: And just just as a comment, I sort of envy, 498 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: uh stuff you missed in history class, because you know 499 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: that's history for us. We have actually recorded stuff and 500 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: have it have had it go out of date before 501 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: it actually goes live because we're doing publication. 502 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know we go oh. 503 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Man, yeah, nothing like saying something like you know, android 504 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: phone is never going to go to any other carrier, 505 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: It's just going to stay on T Mobile. And then 506 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: the next week you're like whoa, it's unsprint. Well all right, 507 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: well you know that. Haha. We'll just have people, Oh 508 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: it's on Verizon. Now we've some of them. 509 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: We've had to uh have our engineers re edit a 510 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: couple of the podcasts, like go back in the studio 511 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: for five minutes and sort of record a patch to 512 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: uh rip out the old one. 513 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: You may have actually noticed a couple of yeah, because 514 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: there's some of those just in. Yeah, we've done a 515 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: PostScript where you could tell that we had to go 516 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: in afterward. Sometimes our our editors are just very good 517 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: at cutting out the offending bit and inserting a new 518 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: bit and you can't even tell thank you, Lizzy, Thank 519 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: you Lizzie. So, do we have any other tips that 520 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: we want to give, like any other like just general 521 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: tips about podcasting. 522 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Just want to reiterate, don't get hung up on the 523 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: whole podcasting biz thing, because you can honestly do this 524 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: with a computer and a microphone. Just make an MP 525 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: three of your yourself talking and making a podcast. Yeah, 526 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: it's not it's not rocket surgery. I can't yeah, I 527 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: can't imagine. 528 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it would be like to do 529 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: this on my own. 530 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it would be harder. 531 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: I mean, we have people who record this for us, 532 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: we have people who edit the podcast, we have people 533 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: that publish them to iTunes for us, which is for 534 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: which we're all extremely grateful. Speaking for everyone there, well 535 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: even I'm pretty sure. 536 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, even just thinking about doing it without a 537 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: co host. Then when it's just you and a microphone, 538 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: that changes the dynamic quite a bit. O whither. Yeah, 539 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he meant that he was gonna 540 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: ditch me or that he was going to, uh, you know, 541 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: he wanted to take the show over himself. Yeah, I was. 542 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: I was totally gonna start a new podcast called Stuff 543 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: on my Desk, And because that never changes, I don't 544 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: have to worry about it. 545 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: Seven episodes and then just rerun them. Yeah, exactly. It's 546 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: sort of a mini series. Those are our our tips 547 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: and just you know, general information of what we do. Uh. 548 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: If you you're curious about our process, we pick our 549 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: topics usually the week before we record, and then the 550 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: day of the recording is when we've end up doing research. 551 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: Despite the fact of having an entire week to have 552 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: looked into it, but we researched the topics independently, we 553 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: come together, we have our conversation, and then we sit 554 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: there and notice that we've been recording for like thirty 555 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: minutes and then realize that we need to stop. 556 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: I notice the timers off. 557 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: Well, that's because my phone started vibrating because of. 558 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 3: The Oh yeah, there's a kick. Leave your phone out 559 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: of the studio. 560 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I have my phone set on airplane mode. It's 561 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: just because the damn schedule thing went off. 562 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm I'm telling you. I'm saying, don't forget to turn 563 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: off that stuff. Actually, uh, we're not. We're generally not 564 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: supposed to have phones in here because they actually cause 565 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: interference with our equipment. Yeah, including phones that are because 566 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: our studio is actually in the middle of the office 567 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: and people whose phones are the people who sit just 568 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: around there. 569 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 3: It can the equipment can actually pick that up. 570 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's why I have it on airplane mode, 571 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: so it doesn't I know, it doesn't say I'm stop 572 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: a tip, stop persecuting me. I hope you enjoyed that 573 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: classic episode of tech stuff. It's always fun to go 574 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: back and listen to those. I was actually really enjoying 575 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: that listen because I got to hear some names of 576 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: folks that I haven't seen in years, like Liz, I 577 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen her in years. She was such a joy 578 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: to work with, and also names of people that I 579 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: still work with to this day, which is amazing you 580 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: think about how much time has gone by, but you know, 581 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick, he's still a coworker. Jerry, She's still a coworker. 582 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: So pretty cool to go back. I mean, I think 583 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: it says a lot about a company, even though the 584 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: company has changed around us a couple of times. But 585 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: it says a lot about a group of people when 586 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: you have a core of those folks who just stick together. 587 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: That I think is a really positive aspect of any group. 588 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this classic episode, and I'll talk 589 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: to you again really soon. Tech Stuff is an iHeartRadio production. 590 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 591 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.