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Hey, it's your boy and eat what up? 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.120 His DJ E f M and his drink Chats, motherfucking 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:26.440 podcast Mary. Right now, when it comes to the legends, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:30.520 we have the legend legends legends in the building. We 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:36.039 have people who I personally grew up listening to idolizing, 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.880 trying to dress like them, trying to be like them, 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:40.720 you know what I mean, trying to be shocked like them, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.880 trying to be smart like them. These guys have still 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.160 and they still heavy on the internet. You've seen them 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.760 all the time. They out there. We got two of them. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.640 I was hoping to have the all three, but we 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.640 got to and we ma we're gonna give the other. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.880 We're gonna still praise the other brother like like he's 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.040 here and right now one my talking about motherfucker. Brand 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:08.080 New Beer is in the building, man, Brand New Bey. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.960 Y'all all from New Roshell, Yes, Okay, originally born in 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.120 the Bronx. Okay, both born in the Bronx, grew up 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.760 in Nerve Shell. I believe puba was born in nershell, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.200 grew up in nerves shell. Okay, so how did y'all 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.359 how did this start? How did this um y'all get 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.560 together and say I'm gonna be a three man group 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:34.200 when y'all rhyming individually? Okay, all right, put us all right. Well, basically, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:39.720 long story short, pub had a group called Master Ceremonies 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.600 back in the days, okay, and they had like to 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:48.120 two hits, cracked out in sexy Okay, but literally grand 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.119 you know what I mean. That was the joint back then. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:55.200 So weever, back in those times, he started working with 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.120 me as a solo artist. Then he started working with 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.440 X as a solo artist. And he was not producer 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:07.799 or nothing like that kind of yeah, kind of instruments 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.359 and all of that. Same he didn't say a little bit. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.799 He was drum programming and all of that. He the 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.160 one that actually taught me how to produce, how to 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.720 listen for the loops and all of that type of ship. So, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:21.679 you know, a long story short. I used to go 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.240 to the shows with him and all of that. In 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.000 the back of my mind, I'm like, then you kick 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:30.080 your cousin out the group I want to be because 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.880 I felt like his cousin wasn't nice enough to really 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:34.800 he was. He was a good dude. I love him, 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.200 shout out doctor who, but he wasn't you know what 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.320 I mean. You could tell he wasn't about that life. Really, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.600 he just was doing it. So whatever they broke up. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.160 I remember we're walking through the mall one day and 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.280 he's kind of like, damn know what we should do that? 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:55.160 I said yeah, And I said, Yo, we need to 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.320 meet you and and X. We need to make a group, 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.440 so you know what I mean, because it'd be better 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.800 than trying to shop three deals and all that. We 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:09.320 just make a group on some three MC ship man word. Now. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:10.960 I don't know when he hit him about it, but 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:16.360 he heard him and was like around one time eight eighties, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.520 late eighty seven eight Yeah, like who came up with 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:25.280 that name brand Nuby. We'll see that we had a 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:34.520 little name us. We shot. You know, he shot for 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:41.000 a deal with no record and no name, just because 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:45.560 then you know, he had he had Motherfucker's Open from 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.599 Sexy and cracked Out and all. Though those was big 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:52.719 records in New York and a little bit nationally so, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.760 but he was able to call up record companies and 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.400 be like, yo, it's grampooball, I want a meeting or whatever. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.120 We walk in there and no music. So we did 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:06.000 a few of these, you know, um saying for them 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.919 or something like yeah, I think we just went in 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:14.040 there whatever you were saying. He was the time here, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:20.320 a little older than us exactly. So he does. So 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.920 we go to we go to Tommy Boy Rosses, did 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.880 you know, and he's like, yeah, I love you. I'm 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.600 like whatever you're doing, blah blah blah. He's like, but y'all, 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.279 you know, I need to hear your guys or whatever. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:37.880 You know. He's like, so, uh, you know, make a 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.359 demo or something to come back. So he was like 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.000 all right. You know. It took us like two weeks 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.240 to to like scrounge up the time up at Jazzy 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.679 Jay Studio, Strong City Studio up Auton Avenue in the Bronx, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.200 just chilling in the studio wait to finished their sessions. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:57.960 And we didn't see it for nigga feel like letting 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.719 us even play records in the middlefun know, I mean, so, Mom, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.200 finally we get the song done, we go down there. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.760 It's one song, we play the ship for him. He's like, oh, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.240 this ship is crazy and Tommy people, this is this 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:15.359 is where at Tommy Ross was that Tommy Boy and 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.120 so at that point he was like, yo, but I 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:18.840 just got a job at Electra, Like I want to 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.000 bring you all over there, like you know what the 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.279 first bigger label dott A Live. We was hyped off 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.600 the Tommy Boy ship. Day Soul was there at that time, 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.839 like they was popping, like you know, so we was like, 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.120 all right, fuck it and he was like all right, 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.240 but you know, so what's y'all's name? And you just 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.600 kind of looked at Yeah, we're gonna get back to 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:46.799 back to Strong City had a little naming fucking ship 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:52.480 being four, So y'all knew he wanted to and he 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.200 wanted some Yeah, something like positive conscious type of ship 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.360 came out on the arrow where like that was kind 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.599 of like the thing to do, like to be be 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.040 happy to have noted or something. Yeah, but doing it 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:05.960 for that if you cut you off. But ain't it 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.520 funny how there was actually an error where not as 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:15.520 itself was actually and it can't be again, definitely, it 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.760 can't be again. It was, but because it was like 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.400 real niggas was having oledge or something like even though 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.520 they was doing it boyd ship like like the street 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:30.240 Jesus see, you would scared boy. Okay, so now y'all 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.320 just your name, but they're thinking about naming yourself, and 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.520 so he came up with the name up there that night, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.880 brand new that ship still yourself. So and then you 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.600 know it's crazy. It's not only that brand Nubian just 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:46.000 sounds so like distinctive, right, but then the individual names 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:51.360 Jamal so that X and grand Boy, like how the 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.040 fund did he come up with that name? What does 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:58.240 that he was? He was Grandpool and max Well back 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.000 in the days when we was kids like like like 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:02.880 I said, he a little bit older than us, so 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.440 so grand Pooper max Well was like a he was 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.720 like a famous MC and new role before he even 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.680 made records, like I know niggers that had flyers of 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:12.680 him take to the wall and all. Like he was 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.480 like Grandmaster cast of Neurshelle back in the days. You 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.280 understanding at that time of cold crushing all that type 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:24.000 of ship, you understand saying, So, yeah, that's just I 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.920 don't know how he fully got that name. I think 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.559 there is a story about it, Like you know, because 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.440 the flint Stones. There was a Grand poop on there, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:36.120 some ship with the logs or something like that. Yeah, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.960 you know it was Remember it was I remember my 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.160 first thing, like when he had the flyer like he 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.440 was on a man remember man Dip like Man Dipla 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:50.560 was a main flyer person who made all them hip hop. Yeah, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.080 he was a promoter and if you your face got 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.720 on one of them flyers, that got that meant something 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.960 that he got on a dip life fly. Yeah, he 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:59.439 was on that ship and I've seen that ship. Was 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.000 like okay, so now what was the first record where 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.240 y'all thought it was like, man, this this is it 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.079 this This was the first record that it broke out 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.440 for y'all and it worked. What was the record when 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:14.960 you knew it? I feel so good? So good? Okay, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.880 I don't remember that one. Yeah. See we had the 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.560 first See they gave us a single deal and they said, 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.800 if you like, if this ship goes, then we're gonna 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.400 give you an album. So we put out a record 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.560 called brand New Being on the A side, and then 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.480 the song called Feels So Good on the B side. Now, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.520 in the beginning, we kept getting plagued with like using 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.880 the beating, other niggas using it before we get a 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:43.040 chance to put that out, like you got you do? 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:52.680 You know that? Don't let it go to you. Let 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.920 me tell you it's a crazy ship, right. I had 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.200 that on the War Report album, right, and I swear 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.480 to God, this is a story. I fo compole. I 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.400 kid you not. I played the record I had on 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.240 the on the joint do that beating. But what I 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.640 was saying on the beat was I'm leaving on the 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.920 next time. I don't know. I mean, so the ship 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.839 nor we know this dot. We know that I had 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.440 it on there. I had it for the War Report, right, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.360 And Tras on phone said, you know that's dope. And 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.560 Trys walked to the studio and he was like, you 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.960 think you popped Daddy sampling records. It's like this ship 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.520 is this ship goes south and I was like, war 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.520 He and I never put the ship out and the 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:44.040 next week's dropped the record. I was like, he was like, 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.839 you're right, I was wrong the record. I swear to God, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.280 swear to God, my bad. Just I just I just go. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.080 So we got the demo for him, who was called 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:55.960 I Ain't going out like that. We sampled from James 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.160 Brown ship. We think, you know that's gonna be popping. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.720 Finding your man Kumo D put south Um I got 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.600 to work. Yeah, I mean like it wasn't as raw 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.439 as our ship. It was the same if you remember 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.839 was the man. We're not battling against it, you know 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.160 what I mean. So then we ended up picking these 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:23.319 next two singles, and like so we had the cameos band. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:34.120 Everybody brand Nubian, So now your man heavy D ended 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.320 up using that beat, so that kind of suck that 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:43.360 one up to then we had to feel so good, right, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.400 But they said that when you're saying happened to be here, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:51.760 saying sample sam example, right, but they everybody sample it 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.559 in their own way. So these are all variations of 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.160 the same ship. So now I remember they was playing 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.080 the niggas who had I feel so good? During the 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.720 bag it was and the ship like every day, you know, 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.440 whenever they played new records or some ship, I'm like, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.800 I'm hearing this ship. Come on, I'm getting hype. I'm like, no, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:14.080 that's not like And then finally one day they played 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.840 that ship and he played our ship right after that, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:22.480 and that's my word from that day never played. I 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:29.400 can't like like that was me who was the first 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.920 brand new being hit where it went like dashing them, 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.320 like when you knew that this is bigger than New 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.079 York show, This is bigger than a New York thing. 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.760 We wake up was big. Everything was See when the 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.640 album came out, it was the album. It wasn't just 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.440 one song, it was the album. What's the fucking album 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.360 came came out? It was like, oh, we fucking with y'all. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:59.000 Now slow down? Where was y'all when Yeah, that's one 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.600 of the last songs. As we recorded last song, I 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:07.240 had problems with that first sample, like like the sample, 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.640 getting the right drums with it, couldn't get it and 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.920 get the correctly you know, it was the shippy all 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.480 he did. I heard what it was, and he came 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.600 with the one. Remember they should play them video shows 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.360 at night. And I seen thet because we remember we 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.040 put that out when her song was still out with 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.720 the Ship, and I heard it one night and I 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.280 was like, yeah, well that's six sound kind of night. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.439 And I went and bought to forty five and I 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.679 remember we fused with it at first, and somehow we 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.560 couldn't get it right. And we said fuck it. We 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.560 went to do the rest of the album. That was 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.120 the last song because remember it was that day. It 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:48.040 was the last That ship is Dope. And then somehow 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.920 nobody had the right drum and that's it. And then 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.240 we started putting horns and shipped to it at the 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.880 end and that was it. It was like I go home, right, 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.920 your ship come back, put it damn And that's what 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:11.480 the funk happened now awful one. I knew that from 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:17.600 the crankles heard the beat. I was like, yeah, if 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.440 they don't like nothing else, they're like, I guess right, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.080 let me beginning of that record start. I hate this 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:54.440 to be a singing crack just like this, and that's 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.040 what I should walk around. We used to have the 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.600 records with us because I remember who I had that 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.880 record with us, and we that was cracking with the 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.760 snappot on pop in the beginning. On the right, y'all, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:11.040 the first three Man grew. I know there's a freerous 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:17.840 three kind of yea, yea y'all. Back then we can 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.440 hear y relaxed. Yeah, it was well, well, well we 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.400 talk at three man MC, you know what I mean, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.400 who's been three man who three man MCS Treacherous three 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.800 was the first one I could think of. By um, 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.600 there's definitely been others were and and the locks you 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.640 that's like that. That's to me. They're like from Westchester. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:45.000 I feel like the next generation of that's a good. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.280 Look at it. They'll tell you word it was good. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.280 That's and I could see alignments in each one of 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.520 them too, Like all of y'all was five, all three 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.200 of y'all see what I was. I was sent first, okay, wow. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:03.240 Then around the time that we started doing the album, 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.440 Phoba got knowledge from my right hand man, trust to 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.640 the mine, but trying to speak to the bad actually 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.880 had knowledge prior to that, But then I don't know 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.000 what happened, And maybe he just wasn't running with the 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.080 right guards or whatever the case may be. So you 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.360 kind of might a straight away. But he knew, you 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.160 know what I mean, he knew the science for the 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.960 youngest that don't know we're talking about, it's a way 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:32.120 of life opposite so so so. But Poba his family 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.680 came up in like black panther type, yeah, background and 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.760 ship like that, like Nerroy Schelle got a lot of 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.560 real like revolution scram Jones from Yeah, we got a 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.760 lot of revolutionary energy up there. Blackstage used to be 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.240 up there, Panthers and all that type of ship. Like 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.040 if you read like certain biographies of people, like some 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.440 of them stayed in nerthshelle while they was you know 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.560 how type of ship. Caracon had a cribin nerth shell 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.240 at one point. Wow, I never know that as David's 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.679 Ruby d lived like right behind when But why was 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.960 it so important like for people to have knowledge youself 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.640 back then? Like what what was that like a standard? 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.200 Was that like the norm back then or now it's 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.960 not necessarily the norm, but you know, to me, it 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.639 gave you an edge over everybody else, you know what 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.880 I mean, Like, you know, gave you a mental edge. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.000 Everybody else is out here, you know when they wisdom 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.440 knowledge and you your knowledge wisdom. You know, thinking before 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.200 you move. They're just moving before they think, you know, 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.760 but nobody's teaching them to think for they move. Can 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.199 five percent Nation of Islam? Can it come back to 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:44.359 the forefront? Like because I feel like bloods wouldn't exist 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.959 in New York City if the five percent was as 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.399 strong as it was in the eighties and then the 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.119 seventies and and and you know what I mean, I 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.560 don't feel because, like you know, it's crazy. Sometimes I 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.520 go to hallm and I see a hood with all 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.040 blue on and it's like that used, I never saw 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.399 that back in the days. Then they will go and 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.400 then we'll see hood all for the red and it's 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.639 like it's kind of crazy for it and it's to 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.840 be New York City. But I just don't remember. I'm 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.439 back then, you had to come you have to know 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:19.000 your your lessons. You couldn't come outside without knowing today's mathematics. 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.560 You had to wake up in the morning and you know, 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.600 try to be you know what I'm saying, like kind 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.560 of be something. And nowadays it's just like the more 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.920 ignorant you all, the more people will see the differences. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.600 Back then, like that, you had the alpha males, you 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.840 know what I mean, who is the gods like? You know, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.240 so they're the ones everybody looked up look up to. 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.120 But you want to be like that. So if they're 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.880 into it, you want to be into it. So that's 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.920 really all we gotta do is just get the young 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.080 alpha's with that, with the ones with the piece of 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.400 magnetic to make the other ones come in and say, okay, 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.679 I want to funk with this. You know, we just 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.400 can't make it. Seems so called bringing up gods back 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:00.440 you at some point they try to make conscious music 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.760 or whatever. Seemed like it was salt. And that's what 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.800 makes certain people not want to funk with it, right like, 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.960 And that's the bullshit. Ain't nothing soft about it. Just 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:16.600 makes a noise that I got damber what one of 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.359 you was diating married j He didn't want to her 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:27.560 to take married Jake and what it mean? Yeah, he's 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:35.359 like over, I never saw it with mine. You know 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:43.520 it was real ship. Yeah he just so nobody listen? 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:51.200 Does nobody? Nobody listen? Yeah? Yeah, But I just want 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.600 you to know. You know, we started this because we 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.280 wanted to preserve hip hop. This guy, I know this 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:01.240 guy twenty years. He he hates serato, he hates, he hated, 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:05.520 he wants, he likes just like. He's a real He's 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.040 a real hip hop dude. I'm talking about real, real, 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:13.160 pure purist. And we when we saw this show, we said, 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.720 we want to just continue to support our legends. And 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:19.760 we want you to know that y'all guys our hands down. Yeah, 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:21.800 I look up to you guys. I still look up 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:23.280 to you guys. You know what I'm saying. When I 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:24.960 when I thought of a movie the other day, I 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.359 swear to guard. It was five o'clock in the morning. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.960 I thought of this movie I had. I already had 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.040 the thing, but it was I've seen Dad's dealing your 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.920 post the five and cent flag, And for some reason 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:37.520 I was like, yo, I gotta speak to the Lord 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.560 of Jamal. And it was five o'clock in the morning. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:43.919 I said, yeah, I'm doing the five cent movie. I 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:45.960 need you down with me, you know what to do it? 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.000 And he was at five o'clock in the morning. It 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.600 was like they say, oh, I didn't look at that. 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:53.880 I didn't even look at it like that. There's five 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.240 o three so you know it actually is built to 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.760 build to destroy. So we've been destroyer at five o'clock 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.159 in the guy that morning. So um and the answer. 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.359 And I just feel like that's that's one of the 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.480 reasons because I want to bring back up father person. 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.679 Not saying that we win anywhere or anything, but I 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.960 think that Noledge itself, who could help people nowadays, so 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.840 and and and and in order to teach somebody some 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.639 of the busiest way to teach people is through entertainment, 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:20.800 you know what I'm saying. Like right now, people they 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.880 think they directly learned, they indirectly learned when they listen 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.159 to this podcast because I'm you know, I'm always drinking, 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.040 I'm having fun. I have fun with my artists. But 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.000 they don't understand that they they indirectly you know, learning. 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.640 So what what the idea that I got We're gonna 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:36.480 make a movie about the five percent and it's crazy, 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.920 was up at the time. Yeah, I just and I 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.160 knew when I'm actually shared the idea was that earlier. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.439 But so what do you think of that? Like, I 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.600 think it's good man, because you know that taught you 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:52.440 like to think and you have to study today. I 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.359 teach in the school. I teach fifth grade, sixth grade, 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.320 seventh grade, eighth grade. I teach up to keep school 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.720 in Brooklyn. I teach each when you teach power point 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:06.600 presentations and on. And it's like back then, like when 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:08.920 we came like you had to study and learn ship 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.160 with as these kids nowadays, I'm I'm in school like 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.720 and I'm looking at these kids and I'm like messing 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.639 with them every day day to day, and it's like, 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:20.760 you know, we did what we did, but we still 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.760 knew how to read and learn. Like a lot of 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.600 these kids, man coming up, they can't read. You know 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:27.719 what I'm saying, like read like read ship, I mean 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.760 something like what what did you say? You know? And 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:32.960 they know that I you know, and I'd be like, yo, man, 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.440 you you'ren't here bullshit and I've seen your test sco 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:39.800 I'm saying, and they get mad at me. They come 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:41.480 back to every time it lef should have said that 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:45.359 said no, you shouldn't have said that. It's open. I 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.840 curse I do everything. I'd been like you listen like 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:49.720 a lot of times, Peo, I'm gonna go tell my father, Well, 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.480 tell your father that today you can't read this word 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:56.000 right here. Also, you know what, so that that taught you, 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.359 that that kept you on your square, you know, it 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:02.119 gave you a sense of understanding or something where a 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:10.800 real school, a real school like them. I took them 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.760 on the hip hop tour. They said they wanted They 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:15.720 said they wanted to record a song. I said, you 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.840 want to record a song? I said, let me hear something. 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.720 They spit it out. I said, good enough. I said 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.800