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Speaker 1: we are. It's another victory Monday. And this is a
Speaker 1: victory Monday, unlike any other victory Monday in the history
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys years ago, years from inside the
Speaker 1: s WBC podcast studio at the Beautiful Star Infrisco, Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola wearing is Cowboys blue with
Speaker 1: a star over his heart. Today the earth is back
Speaker 1: on its axis. That's right, baby, Everything's back to normal
Speaker 1: the way it should have been. And you know my
Speaker 1: picks to click sucks so much that things got to
Speaker 1: score run. No, No, that was be William that got
Speaker 1: forty one seventeen. I wish I was more bold with
Speaker 1: my prediction, and then I was brave. You had Jordan Lewis, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who nobody? Yes, I had Michael Gallup and the first play,
Speaker 1: I said, I wish I had CD. Now you don't
Speaker 1: pick CD. I I think I had Zeke, but at
Speaker 1: least got it, got two touchdowns. You had Zeke and uh,
Speaker 1: your Michael Parson and Michael Parsons is pretty strong. And
Speaker 1: I had Kellen Moore as my honor. But I had
Speaker 1: Kellen as my amba mentioned. Yeah, I had Kelly, and
Speaker 1: I had Jawn Curse and yeah, I thought Jon would
Speaker 1: be on pits, but I saw digs on pits started well,
Speaker 1: they started not covering them at all. It was like
Speaker 1: you planned all week and you did this. And I
Speaker 1: figured he had three catches for fifty two yards in
Speaker 1: the first uh, and there was five minutes to go
Speaker 1: in the quarter, and then after that he had one
Speaker 1: catch for eighty yards eight eight yards that's it. So
Speaker 1: four for sixty. I gotta say sometimes the team makes
Speaker 1: it easier for us. I didn't think they coach well
Speaker 1: at all. Well, you know what they didn't do. You know,
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio screwed him. He didn't leave the blueprint in
Speaker 1: the visitor what it was, he didn't take it with
Speaker 1: and he didn't take it with him, and he did
Speaker 1: not take it with him and he forgot the blueprint
Speaker 1: on Sunday for the Eagles blueprint my yet, what my blueprint?
Speaker 1: My butt? Well, it was a fun Sunday, it really was.
Speaker 1: Well it was. And when you were talking about score predictions,
Speaker 1: I was thinking they outscored mine in the first half.
Speaker 1: I swear in the second quarter. I think I had
Speaker 1: I had thirty eight twenty four, would have thirty one.
Speaker 1: You had thirty twenty seven. You had it much I had.
Speaker 1: You got him written down over there, you guys, y'all
Speaker 1: ignore my accomplishments. And I'm going to start documenting my
Speaker 1: stuff because you guys in media and you always just
Speaker 1: kind of step over me. Did you have three interceptions down?
Speaker 1: I did not have three, but I I once again,
Speaker 1: timing is horrible. I said, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna pick Dicks to get one this time, because every
Speaker 1: time I'm picking to get one, he doesn't get one.
Speaker 1: Did you see where the last time they had three
Speaker 1: corners interceptions in a game? No. Eighty five, eighty eight,
Speaker 1: eighty eight, eighty eight, that was a horble year. You
Speaker 1: had one? Yeah, it's probably my only one that year.
Speaker 1: Manny Hendricks one and Robert Williams had one. God, that
Speaker 1: is that's really going down there, right, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: remembering some way. And it was against Redskins, yes, well
Speaker 1: at that time, yeah, yes, And that reminded because somebody said, well,
Speaker 1: do you remember who the guys were? So I said, well, Walls,
Speaker 1: Robert Williams, and now I was thinking think and somebody
Speaker 1: finally I think, Nick said Mannie Hendricks and and and
Speaker 1: so Dave Hellman said, so you were probably at that game,
Speaker 1: and I'm going what game? Was it like game fifteen
Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, No, I was not there because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys season basically was over by then. Because you
Speaker 1: went into that game, yeah, Halloween. In that game you
Speaker 1: were you were two and two and twelve, right, and
Speaker 1: the Times Harold sent me to cover Philadelphia, and it
Speaker 1: might have been Philadelphia and the Giants. It was a
Speaker 1: big NFC East game, Yeah, to see who was going
Speaker 1: to win the division, right, And so that that had
Speaker 1: been the last game I had missed until the first
Speaker 1: game of the twenty eighteen and Michael Irvin that was
Speaker 1: his coming out game Co's when he toasted Darale Green
Speaker 1: for almost two hundred yards. Yeah, now two touchdowns, yes,
Speaker 1: And he had gone through the seasons. That was his
Speaker 1: first game back from his ankle. Had no ankle. He
Speaker 1: had an ankle most of the year. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a while since three Corners had brought up.
Speaker 1: Of all the games that year, that was the only
Speaker 1: good game that we had. Yeah, you won, Yeah, we won.
Speaker 1: We were two and fourteen that year, No, three and
Speaker 1: thirt thirteen. Yeah, don't cheat yourself, Hey, don't that was
Speaker 1: the third don't worry. And the most important loss of
Speaker 1: that season was the last loss, right, yes, because that
Speaker 1: got the first pick that got Troy Aikman here. The
Speaker 1: most important win of that season was a Green Bay
Speaker 1: win in the last week of the seas, right, that's right,
Speaker 1: got green got that got Troy Aikman to Dallas. That
Speaker 1: got Troyman to Dallas, and there we went. We lost,
Speaker 1: but we Green Bay one, but we won. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. And they end up with You're welcome Cowboys
Speaker 1: and the Packers. Packers ended up with Tony Mandrich. Oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They eventually wound up with Brett Farve, but it was
Speaker 1: several years later. Yes. Well, And the funny thing was
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys were playing coy at that time. In
Speaker 1: eighty nine, Jimmy wasn't going to say, yeah, we're taking Akman,
Speaker 1: and and Jerry was playing along with them, and you know,
Speaker 1: and Jimmy started throwing out this bus about well yeah,
Speaker 1: this mandridch guy's pretty darn good, and we're looking at
Speaker 1: him like, are you serious? We ate fall? So that right, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and they signed They signed Achman before the draft even started,
Speaker 1: so you knew the Cowboys were taking Achman before draft.
Speaker 1: You know, the Falcons kind of looked like the eighty
Speaker 1: nine Cowboys yesterday. I'll tell you what my line in
Speaker 1: Mike column not eighty eight nine. That would they wish
Speaker 1: they could have left at halftime and at least by
Speaker 1: the end of the third they wish they would have left.
Speaker 1: With about five minutes left in the second quarter, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, you know, they go downhill in a hurry.
Speaker 1: The line the old Eagles line in Hotel California you
Speaker 1: can check out, but you can never leave. They had
Speaker 1: checked out. Yeah. You know, when I was looking at
Speaker 1: the Falcons last week, I was sitting there going against
Speaker 1: the Saints, well not just looking at their status and
Speaker 1: their play. You know, I'm like, how is this team
Speaker 1: four and four? I mean, if you're their numbers on defense,
Speaker 1: they're leading sack guy had two sacks and they were leased.
Speaker 1: There were several there were three that were tied with
Speaker 1: two sacks. They released one of them. I think they
Speaker 1: had two picks all season. I mean, and then you
Speaker 1: just look at their running situation, running back situations. By necessity,
Speaker 1: they were having to play Cordarrel Patterson running back and
Speaker 1: without Ridley, And I was, how in the world is
Speaker 1: this team four and four? And I'm really wondering it now. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we had always bet they won over right,
Speaker 1: but I think we were looking at well, we knew
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan could sling the ball around, so you gotta
Speaker 1: worry about that. You gotta worry about Darrel Patterson who
Speaker 1: ends up with four rushes for twenty five yards and
Speaker 1: he had one catch for fourteen yards, so he had
Speaker 1: thirty nine yards on five touches. Who're sitting there worrying
Speaker 1: about how they go? Who's going to cover that guy? Right?
Speaker 1: And then and then it was Ryan, and then the
Speaker 1: tight end, and then the tight end Kyle Pitts, who
Speaker 1: started off the game like okay, here we go, and
Speaker 1: he had three catches for fifty two yards, like I said,
Speaker 1: you know, with about five minutes left in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: and then he had one more catch for the rest
Speaker 1: of the game. And he doesn't play every down. I
Speaker 1: was watching, I go, well, where's number eight? And they
Speaker 1: had a true tight end in there when they wanted
Speaker 1: to run the ball. Their game plan was horrible. It
Speaker 1: just really was. It's almost as if they let off
Speaker 1: the gas for us. They got the field goal, and
Speaker 1: you know, of course we drove down first drive, opening drive,
Speaker 1: we got the seventh, but then when they got there
Speaker 1: three after that, they just seemed to just shut it down, like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're good. We were going to outscore again fourteen three
Speaker 1: and that was it. After their first two possessions, they
Speaker 1: had ten more possessions. Six of them were three and
Speaker 1: out and one was two and out. It was at
Speaker 1: the end of that and their play calling was extremely inconsistent.
Speaker 1: If I would have still gone on with Cordell Patterson,
Speaker 1: that's all you have. I would have tried to get
Speaker 1: the ball to him as much as possible, and he
Speaker 1: disapared with the tight end, which both of them dissappeared.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. And then Hira Lahu he negated
Speaker 1: his kickoff returns. Its most important role that he had
Speaker 1: was kicking it through and you know what, and that
Speaker 1: was what Mike booted that Mike McCarthy was worried about
Speaker 1: the kickoffs. He booted that he had a touchback on
Speaker 1: every one of them. I mean you could see him
Speaker 1: laying into it. He's jumping off. I mean there was
Speaker 1: no smooth get off. No, he was banging. That made
Speaker 1: all his extra points. And that's to say something, murmur,
Speaker 1: it's a thirty three yard extra point. How many experienced
Speaker 1: kickers this year have missed at least missed one when
Speaker 1: you gotta try five? Right right? And he had what
Speaker 1: was it? It was at seven kickoffs? Yeah, seven kickoffs,
Speaker 1: all for touchdowns and only one was ugly and I
Speaker 1: think was the one to start the second What did
Speaker 1: I say touchdowns? Touch backs? Yeah, and only one was
Speaker 1: ugly and it felt like they were touchdowns. They were sailing.
Speaker 1: And don't you just love it when our coach ghost
Speaker 1: for it on fourth down? Yes? Right, what are you doing? No?
Speaker 1: You know what? I love our goal line that gone.
Speaker 1: We had that one. No, no drama except for that
Speaker 1: one stupid play call. Kellen. Just stop trying to be cute. Man?
Speaker 1: Was that we lead one? Yeah? The dack ended up
Speaker 1: to one of out there to Zeke to just to
Speaker 1: get rid of it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, just to
Speaker 1: get rid of it, which was a stupid That's what
Speaker 1: I said. Run the ball on the ball man. Zeke
Speaker 1: is like he's salivating in the back. So here's what happened.
Speaker 1: So you go from going on fourth down the week before,
Speaker 1: oh for four, this time you go three for three,
Speaker 1: you know. And and when I was writing, I go, oh,
Speaker 1: what a difference a week makes? And I said, no,
Speaker 1: what a difference a half makee right and a half.
Speaker 1: They had thirty six points, thirty six to three, the
Speaker 1: biggest lead they've had at halftime since nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 1: with a seventy one. They were against the Jets thirty five.
Speaker 1: They were up thirty five. You remember that game, that's right,
Speaker 1: he was there. It was like, yeah it was. It
Speaker 1: was fifty two. We're not even looking it up. You
Speaker 1: were good? So no, not so now I say, when
Speaker 1: we look at the Broncos game, you know, it was
Speaker 1: too bad to look at. To me, this game too
Speaker 1: good to look at. It really is? I mean, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't take it, you know, I take it with a
Speaker 1: grain of salt. But this is what this team should
Speaker 1: have done, and last week they didn't do that. But
Speaker 1: so to me, it's status quo. So as far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, I'm not gonna put too much into this
Speaker 1: win because I know that this is how this is
Speaker 1: where we're supposed to be. This wipe's off last week's
Speaker 1: right aberration. How do you spell it? Bill? That's it? No,
Speaker 1: just one, that's right and everyone there's one being blueprint
Speaker 1: that's baby. They left it in the locker room. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, you can you can feel
Speaker 1: good about this game, but this is how we're supposed
Speaker 1: to win, see, And that's two out of three now,
Speaker 1: because the defense played well against Minnesota and they went
Speaker 1: ahead and played well against in this game as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, extremely well they did. You know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know that deep that offense wasn't all that bad
Speaker 1: and they had the you know, the potential, and they
Speaker 1: just shut him down with the interceptions, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: that's number eight and an interception it was because he
Speaker 1: came but he came off his guy to get over there.
Speaker 1: Well well he was, but he was getting as he
Speaker 1: was getting over there, he's headed towards this particular point.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Ryan was thinking. Was horrible pass.
Speaker 1: It's like he was trying to throw it to Dicks.
Speaker 1: But even a bad pass to Dicks. I didn't know
Speaker 1: if he under threw the guy that was behind him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he under threw. I think they are over threw one
Speaker 1: or everybody back there. But to be that quick to
Speaker 1: be able to stop, because he was going full speed
Speaker 1: for a particular point over there, Maddie throws it. He
Speaker 1: he stops and just quickly up in the air. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't he wasn't just off the ground. He was
Speaker 1: up off the ground. And to make that kitch while
Speaker 1: doing all of that, that's tough to do. So that's
Speaker 1: and it stuck. It stuck in his hand. That's eleven
Speaker 1: career picks in his first twenty five games. So he's
Speaker 1: one of seven guys to have accomplished that. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you had fifteen, so you were one of seven. That's
Speaker 1: another one. We're just letting the world let him know.
Speaker 1: One of seven guys to have eleven at least eleven
Speaker 1: picks in the first you have all you have them
Speaker 1: all the players I didn't see I didn't that would
Speaker 1: have been interesting. And that dies Everson Walls especially. He
Speaker 1: got twenty interceptions in twenty games. Let's not forget that
Speaker 1: gave it his career in his career. The eighth pick,
Speaker 1: the eighth eighth picks already UH in the first nine
Speaker 1: games ties Everson Walls for most picks in the first
Speaker 1: nine games? Did they? Did you say that on the
Speaker 1: TV broadcast? Well, what's happened on the talent? Ever? Send
Speaker 1: or somebody else ever had a TV with him? Eight
Speaker 1: and eight games in UH eighty one and then seven
Speaker 1: in nine games in eighty two? Strikes season? The count
Speaker 1: the playoff? Okay, you got a couple in in a
Speaker 1: playoff game in eight that's right. So but then don't
Speaker 1: they don't count playoff games? Yeah? I don't know, Well
Speaker 1: not for regular season they should. Baseball does. No, they don't,
Speaker 1: don't they don't. But there are more important games in
Speaker 1: regular season games. I don't understand why you don't count them. Well,
Speaker 1: that's another category, it is, But you can overall most
Speaker 1: picks in playoffs. Yeah, so anyway, he only needs three
Speaker 1: more in seven games? Where how many were you at nine?
Speaker 1: And seven in eight games, And my son called that one.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, you just telled because they were so incompetent.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, they're gonna chat throw the ball.
Speaker 1: So he left the room. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: He left the room, and sure enough when the guys
Speaker 1: I had to yeah out to the back of the house. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: about Anthony Brown, I was just gonna say, I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever seen an interception that the guy defends
Speaker 1: the pass, tips it up in the air, and then
Speaker 1: grabs it himself. So it's contagious. What's the stat on that,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Does he get both a pu Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then even even Jordan Lewis's one, it was deflected
Speaker 1: and he makes them right there. Yeah yeah, yeah. All right,
Speaker 1: let's discuss more of that when we come back here
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Speaker 1: this is? This? I mean, you get a Cowboy forty
Speaker 1: three to three win and they're going to Kansas City
Speaker 1: to take on the Cheeks, a Cheeks team that got
Speaker 1: back on track on Sunday night, scoring over forty points
Speaker 1: themselves in the and most of it in the second half.
Speaker 1: It was a seventeen fourteen game in the third and
Speaker 1: then they took off in one forty one to fourteen
Speaker 1: or the Raiders. So plenty to talk about this week, yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure at some point it'll be brought up
Speaker 1: at what sixty years ago these two teams were in Dallas, Texas? Right,
Speaker 1: that's true. The Hot Brothers, right is the Hot Brothers
Speaker 1: are just the Hunt family, the family Hunt family, he said,
Speaker 1: the Hot Brothers. They played for the Preston Road Trophy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they did, still do, don't they They still do. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I know about the Preston Road Trophy because the Joneses
Speaker 1: and the Hunts, I guess both lived off of Preston.
Speaker 1: And so the story was that Lamar started with Jerry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was some goofy looking trophy. And the first
Speaker 1: time they Kansas City played Dallas after Jerry bought the team. Uh,
Speaker 1: they just the families just played for there was a
Speaker 1: trophy they made or something, and so Dallas one Jerry
Speaker 1: got to keep the trophy of Kansas City one. Lamar,
Speaker 1: it's a bird house. It's a bird house. I was
Speaker 1: going to birdhouse. I was gonna say it had something
Speaker 1: to do with a bird. Yeah. Name was games and
Speaker 1: they always felt like you had to play for something.
Speaker 1: So they live pretty much a block away from each
Speaker 1: other on press and then the winner would put the
Speaker 1: trophy in the in the picture window of the front
Speaker 1: of the house so you can drive by into your QQ.
Speaker 1: That's a Lamar said, I'll put it in my windows
Speaker 1: so you can only learn that stuff on mix shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's very important information. Thank you stories on this trophy.
Speaker 1: Oh real, dude, rad it next time people. Chris Babe
Speaker 1: knows all about it, all right. So we were started
Speaker 1: talking about the defense and the secondary play and the picks,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Jordan Lewis off the top and your
Speaker 1: MVP for this game. VP for the game. Not only
Speaker 1: did he make the pick, he also had two knock
Speaker 1: downs all three three, but two consecutives NA plays that
Speaker 1: really helped us, you know, solidified things. He does not
Speaker 1: take any play for granted, guys, because as we've noticed here,
Speaker 1: there are games that start off as blowout we end
Speaker 1: up as blowouts that we say, just like the other
Speaker 1: game we mentioned Kansas City, it was kind of close
Speaker 1: there for a minute and then they blow out, they
Speaker 1: get forty points. Well, initially that game was a little
Speaker 1: bit tight, and there are plays and players like Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis that can make that difference for that particular play
Speaker 1: and keeps the momentum going. Because who's to say, just
Speaker 1: like we missed didn't go for field goals and missed
Speaker 1: fourth downs twice, it changed everything for the game at
Speaker 1: that time and for what went on for the rest
Speaker 1: of the game. So he's the same thing could happened,
Speaker 1: could have happened If Jordan Lewis doesn't make those plays,
Speaker 1: you just never know. Here's where ever, since talking about
Speaker 1: the the Falcons seven to three, made a field goal
Speaker 1: with eight twenty four left in the first quarter. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys went three and out. The Falcons get the ball
Speaker 1: and they drive to the Cowboys thirty two yard line,
Speaker 1: second and seven, Cowboys blitz and Colston bats the ball
Speaker 1: incomplete third and seven at the thirty two, and they
Speaker 1: had Pits lined up wide by himself and Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: throws the pits and Jordan Lewis breaks up the pass,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it had to do with Parsons
Speaker 1: taking away the running back because he was looking at
Speaker 1: the running back and then he threw. And now it's
Speaker 1: fourth and seven and they said, now we're not kicking
Speaker 1: a field goal, We're going for it. And Lewis breaks
Speaker 1: up the pass and the Cowboys get the ball and
Speaker 1: the rest of the game was history because the Cowboys
Speaker 1: came back and they faced a fourth down and they
Speaker 1: made it. It was fourth and five at the thirty three.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they didn't trust Hiraulu who is
Speaker 1: hiu huhelujah. Yeah, that's not howluviah and and uh. They
Speaker 1: went for it on fourth and five at the thirty
Speaker 1: three and ceedee Lamb runs a deep out. Nice is
Speaker 1: that when the guy was hanging onto his twenty one
Speaker 1: yards in the first I think it was, yeah, thirty
Speaker 1: five he beat thirty five? Was that that was avery will?
Speaker 1: He wore that guy. They tried to cover him in
Speaker 1: the slot. Yeah, give me a break, don't put your three.
Speaker 1: You can say that almost every week for anyone that
Speaker 1: tries to cover wide receivers. Yeah, and seeing that was
Speaker 1: one of the benefits of having Gallop outside. You put
Speaker 1: CD in the slot. And now he's against the third
Speaker 1: corner and the second or first, I don't know. Moral
Speaker 1: he could gallop was killing this corner back he couldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he could go either. He could have gotten him deep
Speaker 1: or short. It didn't really matter. So the Cowboys ended
Speaker 1: up going on scoring a touchdown after that fourth downade
Speaker 1: And that's the swing right there, that swing, and now
Speaker 1: it's fourteen three with thirteen twenty four left in the
Speaker 1: second way, and we could easily say, man, it's the Falcons,
Speaker 1: just like we could have said last week it's the Puncos, right.
Speaker 1: You know, anything could have happened at that moment. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't knock that down, we don't make out a
Speaker 1: fourth down still seven three, they get the ball back,
Speaker 1: they could score, or a field goal or a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So many things could happen and gotten away from us,
Speaker 1: just the way it got away from us last And
Speaker 1: you know it don't take any play for good. And
Speaker 1: you know you talked about the Falcons, Well they're not
Speaker 1: this or that, but they were four and four and
Speaker 1: in the playoff picture they were the seventh team. They
Speaker 1: would have been the last one and they'd eat their
Speaker 1: division leader at the time. Yeah in the Saints. So
Speaker 1: last week and they didn't lose any ground of Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay yet, No, they did not. Hey, how about that
Speaker 1: NFC East, that's crazy went three and old. Wait we're
Speaker 1: making fun of the East. Let's look at the NFC
Speaker 1: South South with the Packers, right, No, no, let's look
Speaker 1: at the Packers. Yeah, the NFC North. I'm not laying defense.
Speaker 1: They were very fortunate to win that. It was very
Speaker 1: average as a as a as a division, they're very average.
Speaker 1: I think under the Packers wins. Three wins out there
Speaker 1: are well, they're all under fives. The rust are under
Speaker 1: five and they're talking about the But Detroit got a tie?
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Sixteen? Sixte crazy? And the Packers they struggled, right,
Speaker 1: it's three to nothing in midway through the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Now they finished at seventeen, but three nothing. I wanted
Speaker 1: to say something about yea and yeah, I am the
Speaker 1: dead horse. But in regards to Rogers leadership on this team,
Speaker 1: they've lost two games Eyton two first game of the
Speaker 1: year against the Saints. Right, Rogers never showed offseason preseason
Speaker 1: maybe that we could practice was the only time he
Speaker 1: came to Right lost and it was because of his
Speaker 1: bad play. He was throwing crap all over the place.
Speaker 1: He looked like he had that practice. It's Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't take long to write the ship. The
Speaker 1: next week, boom, everything's back to normal. He wins what
Speaker 1: six in a row as a starter. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they got beat up and because of because of his
Speaker 1: you know, COVID ignorance rights that game. Missed that game.
Speaker 1: So that's the second game they lost. They've only lost
Speaker 1: two games every team, every game he has started, they
Speaker 1: have won. So they could have actually been undefeated. If
Speaker 1: he comes in and acts like a leader, that he
Speaker 1: should act like he was missed the eye. That's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: missed the eye. So I mean, I'm just saying giving
Speaker 1: him credit, but also letting him letting you know, just
Speaker 1: because you have that ability as a leader to make
Speaker 1: a statement of whatever you're trying to make, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you have to and when it comes to this team,
Speaker 1: you have cost them two losses. As a leader of
Speaker 1: this team, you cost them directly two losses. And now
Speaker 1: you're you're in a dog fight with everyone else, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: everybody else at the top, when you could have been
Speaker 1: sitting alone at the top. So you thought that Falcons
Speaker 1: would have liked to have left at halftime yesterday? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or maybe how about two thirds of the way through
Speaker 1: the game would they have liked to leave? Yes? I
Speaker 1: think I'd like to leave two thirds through. I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta run Bill sneak on out of here. Man.
Speaker 1: He's not leaving because he's losing it. Okay, we're winning
Speaker 1: rights women. He just lost something. I lost something. I
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Speaker 1: dot Com and the sw BC podcast studio, Rogage, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola. Though we had to boot Bill Jones out
Speaker 1: of here before we talked about college football. Now we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk behind his back. Oh give me a break, man,
Speaker 1: I could, he'd ratter be glad he got out of here.
Speaker 1: I was so mad at but they let me down
Speaker 1: like this every year. This this was their chance, this
Speaker 1: was it. You could have moved up. I mean, first
Speaker 1: of all, I thought they should have moved up. They
Speaker 1: be careful. They just make the Big twelve playoff game.
Speaker 1: So this week is Oklahoma State, right, Yeah? So they
Speaker 1: would they play them? They wouldn't play him twice. It's
Speaker 1: in Norman. So I'm saying, well, they could, they could.
Speaker 1: They could play him now and play him in it.
Speaker 1: They could in the championship game. Yeah, we'll see how
Speaker 1: it all stacks out. Bill's nervous, all right. So the
Speaker 1: Cowboys moved to seven and two, have a four game
Speaker 1: lead in the NFAC East. Um the Eagles. Eagles have
Speaker 1: won four games themselves, correct, did I throw you see,
Speaker 1: you didn't throw me anything. If you do that anyway,
Speaker 1: yeah and so, um, but they got a three game
Speaker 1: swing coming up that's going to be very important, starting
Speaker 1: with starting with Kansas City the Raiders on Thanksgiving and
Speaker 1: then at New Orleans the following thirst stretch. So this
Speaker 1: is that tough stretch of three games in twelve days
Speaker 1: that they continue to get um, you know, tagged with.
Speaker 1: And it's not just it's not just the the schedule itself.
Speaker 1: The strength of the teams, right, it's at a high level.
Speaker 1: And with two of the three games on the road. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, this is a tough stretch for them. But again,
Speaker 1: if you play like they did against Minnesota, if you
Speaker 1: play like they did against the Falcons, then yeah, you
Speaker 1: can compete for this. I'm sure now after everybody was
Speaker 1: trashing them last Monday, this Monday, oh, they might be
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the NFL. Before I
Speaker 1: started doing this podcast, I never listened to sports talk
Speaker 1: radio just because the reason number to tell you now,
Speaker 1: there are so many bandwagon guys out there. It is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Not only bandwagon guys, you've got former players who are
Speaker 1: supposed to be objectively giving their opinion, all of their
Speaker 1: opinions are slighted by their hate for the Dallas Cowboys. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that is ridiculous, man, yep. I mean, let's just be real.
Speaker 1: London Fletcher, he's out there, these guys on podcasts. I
Speaker 1: just heard him as I was going to play golf
Speaker 1: today at the Cowboys place, and he mentioned all of
Speaker 1: these great teams in the NFC. He mentioned three great teams, Bucks, Packers, Rams,
Speaker 1: wasn't crazy about the Cardinals, didn't even want to say
Speaker 1: the D words. The D word was killing him. And
Speaker 1: so finally one of the other commentaries were like, hey, London,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna say anything about the Cowboys. He's had
Speaker 1: the big wins. He's harping on Denver still and he says, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a I'm I played with I played
Speaker 1: with Washington, so I can't even say that word to me.
Speaker 1: That's doing us a misjustice. Well, all these guys and
Speaker 1: they're they're they're all like, they're all like that. You
Speaker 1: think about some of the guys that always criticized the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: their former players that wanted to be drafted by the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and got their butts beat, and then the whole
Speaker 1: their entire goal in life, for their career. Let's see
Speaker 1: how many times I can beat the Cowboys because I'm
Speaker 1: mad at them because they didn't draft me. What dang,
Speaker 1: we can't draft to everybody. And so now you've got
Speaker 1: these guys giving you slanted information based on their own
Speaker 1: personal grudge against the Cowboys, which I think is kind
Speaker 1: of like it's a bunch of bs. So let's put
Speaker 1: this seven and two start in this perspective. It's the
Speaker 1: it's the third best start for a Mike McCarthy head
Speaker 1: coach team, only the third The Packers one year went
Speaker 1: nine and ozero and one year or they went eight
Speaker 1: and one. Which one was it? I didn't look that up.
Speaker 1: I just saw the nine and in the eight and one.
Speaker 1: So this is seven and two is the third best start.
Speaker 1: So that tells you this is kind of special right now. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the last time the Cowboys did it was twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: when they were on their eleven game winning streak. But uh,
Speaker 1: and we'd be remiss if we didn't point out no
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, no Randy Gregory, no Neville gallim or if
Speaker 1: that's three fourths of the starters on that defensive line
Speaker 1: and they shut this team down to three And I
Speaker 1: don't care if it was the Detroit Lions. They shut
Speaker 1: him down to three points right here, and Um, the
Speaker 1: guy we've been waiting on to step up and do something,
Speaker 1: Dorrence Armstrong comes on strong in the game. He gets
Speaker 1: a sack and a block punt. Oh, that was the
Speaker 1: heck of a play. That might have been the best
Speaker 1: effort I've seen from anyone on this team this year,
Speaker 1: which is saying a lot. Consider how we've seen greg
Speaker 1: we play, consider how we've seen Parsons play on defense,
Speaker 1: that might be one of the best defensive plays I've
Speaker 1: seen this year for the Cowboys. The sack or the
Speaker 1: block punt, block punt, And you know the sack came
Speaker 1: from they stood him up in the middle the way
Speaker 1: they were doing Randy Gregory and Parsons, And you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of played him that way a little bit
Speaker 1: in training camp, like he was a stand up outside
Speaker 1: three four linebacker or whatever. Uh, And I was always like,
Speaker 1: what do they do? It's too big? But in the
Speaker 1: middle he came through there and then on the block punt.
Speaker 1: If anybody needs a film of the exact technique you're
Speaker 1: supposed to use the block a punt because he comes
Speaker 1: in one handed, made sure he didn't run into the punter,
Speaker 1: and gets the ball. And then we get a little
Speaker 1: poetic justice because Nashan Wright, who mistakenly touched the ball
Speaker 1: last week, ends up recovering it. Yeah, very cool. And
Speaker 1: there was some stat that was the first time ever
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys had a defensive end. Uh have a
Speaker 1: sack and a block punt in the same game all
Speaker 1: kind of moves this year. Yeah, but he came in there.
Speaker 1: You know, it looked like you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: if they looked like falcons had a chance to recover
Speaker 1: it in the end zone, would have been safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But he comes sliding in there and recover it, so
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost as if it's almost if he
Speaker 1: didn't want to touch it outside yea from going to
Speaker 1: brush it and he kind of slid on end because
Speaker 1: if he catches it here, right, and the guy touches
Speaker 1: him as he's sliding, then they might put up the
Speaker 1: one yard left. And then our other worry was the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Right, did with another week of practice help
Speaker 1: Lele Collins and uh Terrence Steele? Well, yes it did, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it did. Now they put the two tight ends over
Speaker 1: on either side quite a bit, but still they were
Speaker 1: you know, they were on their own, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they did a heck of a job. How many rushing
Speaker 1: yards did we have? They only hit? That was the no. No,
Speaker 1: that was the surprising statistic in the game, because when
Speaker 1: I went to look to see, I figured Zeke had
Speaker 1: about seventy or eighty yards. He had forty one. That's right,
Speaker 1: Pollard had forty two. So they rushed for one hundred
Speaker 1: and fourteen yards. But it was very time. They set
Speaker 1: us up a third shorts right, well, they got the
Speaker 1: first down or they got the touchdowns goal for you know,
Speaker 1: one yard two yards. And see, let's just be real,
Speaker 1: all of this is just dress rehearsal because we're gonna
Speaker 1: need Zeke in January. Love Polot, Man, Polot is gonna
Speaker 1: be still a great change of pace for us. But
Speaker 1: we start talking about how we're gonna need Zeke in January.
Speaker 1: I want him to continue along his pace. Take your time.
Speaker 1: Nobody's looking for fifteen hundred yard rushing season. I just
Speaker 1: want him to be ready to move the chains for us.
Speaker 1: And he almost that that that trick play man, I mean,
Speaker 1: he almost gets in and then they get a bisque
Speaker 1: holding call on Noah Brown on the beautiful play by
Speaker 1: Keller Moore. Yes, design that, Oh my goodness. And then
Speaker 1: you're thinking, going, I should have saved the comment, No,
Speaker 1: I tell you what he's saving. You know what he's saving. Right,
Speaker 1: ceedee Lamb, right, ceede Lamb. Is gonna throw a touchdown
Speaker 1: sometime in an important game this year, the best. No
Speaker 1: one's gonna see it coming but us. That's it. But
Speaker 1: but you know that was another big play by Pollard
Speaker 1: um so Zeke almost broke one as well, running left
Speaker 1: and we cut it off into the hole. He tried
Speaker 1: to split them and he got tripped up by the
Speaker 1: last match. So a lot of young guys that got
Speaker 1: some playing time finally came. You know that all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Gholston's making plays and then Parsons and continue
Speaker 1: making their plays. But Armstrong played really well. And I
Speaker 1: just now I didn't see it, but I heard somebody
Speaker 1: say that. DeMarcus Lawrence tweeted out soon like and if
Speaker 1: you see him do his rehab work, I mean, he
Speaker 1: looks ready. He's right around the corner. I mean, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking since they get three weeks to practice before
Speaker 1: they have to make a decision off ir Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he's about ready to start practicing now. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they do it this week or you know,
Speaker 1: then the next game is a short week, but then
Speaker 1: he could practice for however many times they practiced before
Speaker 1: the Saints game, and then you would be ready the
Speaker 1: next week, you because obviously when they bring these guys
Speaker 1: back the you know their m is. You practice one week,
Speaker 1: that's great, then the next week you practice in play. Yes,
Speaker 1: and it's been a two week thing. So if you
Speaker 1: want to use that two week thing, you got to
Speaker 1: get him going pretty soon. And Tyrn Smith the same thing.
Speaker 1: When you see him do his rehab, he's moving really well,
Speaker 1: so he may be ready too. So well, here's one
Speaker 1: thing I enjoyed was it turned out just the way
Speaker 1: we talked about it. You loved having Parsons inside, right,
Speaker 1: I liked having him on the outside in certain situations,
Speaker 1: and that's just how they used him. And they did both.
Speaker 1: They did both. They had him inside on run, but
Speaker 1: then when it was a clear pass, we were blowing
Speaker 1: them out and we knew they weren't going to run.
Speaker 1: The boy Parsons had one of the best sex I've
Speaker 1: seen him make all year with the quick move inside
Speaker 1: over It was a seventy six uhm McGarry out like
Speaker 1: it was a basketball. Took a jab, stuff to left
Speaker 1: and wide. It's like, oh see you dude, And that
Speaker 1: was almost it was a strip seg. But yeah, they
Speaker 1: end up covering right. But exactly so you bring them
Speaker 1: from anywhere on the field and that's the key. And
Speaker 1: when the boys come back, then there's gonna be more
Speaker 1: packages that we can deal with. How about this for timing?
Speaker 1: So um, I must have wrote the story on Parsons
Speaker 1: for the Star Game Day magazine like over a month.
Speaker 1: Great cover by the way over, Yeah, it's on and
Speaker 1: for some reason they held it out. I don't remember
Speaker 1: why they didn't run it, but it ran Sunday right
Speaker 1: and basically my my my lead was, oh, keep an
Speaker 1: eye out, where's Michael Parsons. Yeah, yeah, exactly that. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it turned out perfectly because is he going to be
Speaker 1: in the middle. Is he gonna be a strong side linebacker?
Speaker 1: Maybe defensive end? And he probably did a traditional lineback
Speaker 1: in the middle or you put him on the end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and and you know, and everybody and I think,
Speaker 1: but also we got well we'll go over time, but
Speaker 1: we need to do this. Game ball goes to dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: He had that defense ready to go, right, and you know,
Speaker 1: and and he didn't want to talk about Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to say, oh, you know, this is
Speaker 1: revenge or whatever. And and I thought, Michael Parsons, this,
Speaker 1: this kid's twenty two years old, but he's so perceptive
Speaker 1: when they asked him that, you know, was him was
Speaker 1: Quinn different? And he goes, well, you know, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen his face so red all the time during practice.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't about It wasn't about because they were
Speaker 1: going to play Atlanta. It was because what happened against Denver, right,
Speaker 1: And he said dan Quinn was like that because not
Speaker 1: because he's not coaching Atlanta, because he's coaching the Dallas
Speaker 1: counsel Us and wanted the best for them. And he
Speaker 1: ends up getting the game ball. And if anybody hasn't
Speaker 1: seen the little celebration from the locker room when he
Speaker 1: got it, it's on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and all
Speaker 1: the guys just went crazy, grabbing him and jumping on
Speaker 1: on hey, man, when you get lego was midseason, right,
Speaker 1: five games in. Come on, if you get a lego
Speaker 1: like that, everyone knows that you feel a little something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay for that. They know you feel it to
Speaker 1: the Falcons know that. So when they were taking that
Speaker 1: butt whipping, they know they deserved it. It was almost like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy knows too much of us. Okay, then it
Speaker 1: seems like they just gave up. So good, good, good
Speaker 1: on dan Quinn. Now again, as he spoke after the game,
Speaker 1: it's like, this is a stepping stone in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Now we got to keep it now. He didn't like,
Speaker 1: he didn't act like he just split the at him. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, we gotta and now you get tested
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