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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got some NBA news to talk about. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into the latest with the Kevin Durant trade rumors.

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Speaker 2: And the Sons have a new coach, a guy that

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Speaker 2: probably ninety nine percent of you don't know what he

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Speaker 2: looks like. That's okay, But first, it is Game one

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Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals tonight. They're going to start this

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Speaker 2: at eight thirty pm Eastern on ABC eight thirty. Throw

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Speaker 2: it in air quotes. We're going to determine who's gonna

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Speaker 2: get the NBA Championship, the first in their franchise history.

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Speaker 2: Because the Pacers won multiple ABA titles and OKC has

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Speaker 2: won prior when the franchise was the Seattle super Sonics.

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Speaker 2: gonna take all that history. So they're playing for the first.

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Speaker 2: This is exciting. So to get us in the mood,

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Speaker 2: we thought it would be fun to draft the top

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Speaker 2: players here in the NBA Finals from these two teams.

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Speaker 2: Are basically ranking them because we're drafting them like this. Now,

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Speaker 2: these teams go deep test, like the coaches play a

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Speaker 2: lot of these guys. So I think we could do

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Speaker 2: nine ten rounds going back and forth. We can play

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Speaker 2: it by ear. But first we've got to find out

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Speaker 2: who picks first here in our very important NBA Finals draft.

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Speaker 2: So I got a trivia question for you, and I

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Speaker 2: think if you can hit like the over underline of

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Speaker 2: this question, you get the first pick. All right, I

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Speaker 2: think you're gonna be okay with this. So here's the cue.

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Speaker 2: Hit me with that music, JD. Since twenty ten. Nine

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Speaker 2: players have played for both the Thunder and Pacers franchises

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Speaker 2: since twenty If you can name I think if you

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Speaker 2: can name five, so more than half. If you can

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to be able to name them.

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Speaker 1: I think you can. They're not They're not. I was

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Speaker 1: just going to bring a Looney for us to determine who.

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Speaker 2: Oh this is way more fun.

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Speaker 1: This is way more fun. Five guys have played for both.

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Speaker 2: Of nine half, but I'm only looking for five.

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Speaker 1: Ye five?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're you're basically there's three all stars like you

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Speaker 2: should get those, Okay, Paul George, here we go. We're

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all stars is key? Okay? See and Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all stars. We're talking, We're talking all.

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Speaker 1: the number one, Picky, you can take it ten more seconds, okay,

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Speaker 1: and I'll start with which team now I'm thinking that.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Pacers for sure. Both of these guys, yes.

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Speaker 2: you gotta be more, you know, a little more like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this guy, this one guy has been an

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Speaker 2: All Star in the Western Conference too, remains in an

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Speaker 1: It's not David West. I guess I'm going too far back,

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Speaker 2: Just just I'll get to you and here we go. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the number.

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Speaker 1: You get it.

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Speaker 2: I was looking for Demantas Sabonis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I thought you're gonna get Victor Oladipo

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Speaker 2: I thought. I thought you were gonna get Paul George

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Speaker 2: Sabonis Olidepo bang bang bang.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard. I heard the down to Dunk guys

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Speaker 2: Another guy former Raptor uh dj Augustine wa Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought that was very difficult. Yeah. They

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Speaker 1: dumb Yeah. Yeah, I mean it was the one year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you sort of forget he guess you played for

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Speaker 1: Yeah one quick year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the Canadian. I'll take shape Gil just Alexander,

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Speaker 2: no brainer. Excited to see if Indiana can even slow

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Speaker 2: this guy down. He had two monster games against him

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Speaker 2: he went for forty five points. But then the other

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Speaker 2: one he was just as awesome. I think he went

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Speaker 2: Nee Smith. This guy right now. You know he started

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Speaker 2: of slow. The shot wasn't fallen.

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Speaker 2: Turned it on and the numbers are unreal, and so

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Speaker 2: I have him with the number one pick.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, obviously, obviously you got to do that one.

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Speaker 1: He had ridiculous numbers against the Pacers this year. I

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Speaker 1: mean those numbers are crazy on crazy, crazy efficiency.

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Speaker 2: And one turnover in the two games. Yeah, and like

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Speaker 2: there could be a lot of free throws. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: he's damn good and they're tough to obviously try and

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Speaker 2: contain him. So SGA number one.

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Speaker 1: Thirty nine points seven boards, eight assists, seventy point eight

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be even hotter today because of the

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Speaker 1: and these baby blues shoes. That's a gorgeous shoe.

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Speaker 2: drop them every week and a half. Okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: who you got number two?

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Speaker 1: Well, I obviously have to go with an Indiana pacer.

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Speaker 1: I must. You could obviously go with Jalen Williams. The

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Speaker 1: question is is it Halliburton or Pascal Siakam in terms

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go They're gonna go so deep

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take Pascal Sia. No, we're talking, we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Pascal Siakam. I'm also thinking tonight is over

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Speaker 1: unders nineteen and a half points. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: encourage betting all that much, but it seems low like one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just to feel it out. It was a mere six

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Speaker 1: think he could. There's been plenty of games where he's

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Speaker 1: had lower than nineteen this postseason, but obviously a ton

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Speaker 2: And you said it. He went for thirty two, eight

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Speaker 2: I will take the two point guards here, stacked or

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Speaker 2: be mediocre for them to win four to seven. He's

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Speaker 2: And he's got to have a couple moments where he

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I needed a member of Okay. See, I'll take

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Speaker 1: Jalen Williams, considering he's should be putting up some points.

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Speaker 1: then he does so much else on the floor, boarding,

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Speaker 2: And he's gotten better as postseason has gone on. Conference

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Speaker 2: the five game series. Yeah, yeah, well he continue that

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Speaker 2: It's like who wins the Jay Dub battle there, the

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Speaker 1: It was fair to wonder what's going to happen with

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Speaker 1: But it was wild to see how he responded Game six,

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Speaker 1: felt like him and Chet as well came alive, like

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Speaker 1: this is how they played ball. This is their best

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Speaker 2: You brought up Chet's who I'll take a fifth overall.

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Speaker 2: Chet Holmgren here, the young guy. He look this is

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Speaker 2: But I feel like when Chet Holmgren plays really well,

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Speaker 2: don't know, kid looks a little scared to me, like

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Speaker 2: about it. In the Wolve series, he was very aggressive,

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Speaker 2: if he can keep up his offensive production, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Pacers are in trouble. If he does so, I'll

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Speaker 1: Overall, Yeah, he feels comfortable. Looks like he's comfortable dropping

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Speaker 1: all these lines. This fifty four from trade Ball.

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Speaker 2: As we're seeing, we have a fun short from trade Short.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought, uh, sixty seven was coming. And

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Speaker 1: if you've seen that meme that's going around, people asking

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Speaker 1: this lyric thing going around. It's a little mellow ball thing. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I got chat did you have would you have

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Speaker 2: rest of the board or no, I mean you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's an up or down thing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: probably would have taken Chat okay, but I'm going in

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm taking Miles Turner. I just

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Speaker 1: think they will, I think they will throw Case and

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Chet may gravitate towards the rim as

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Speaker 2: So I'll take Miles to He's got to hit these Yeah,

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Speaker 2: important that one like you never know. That one's scary. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: got him at six, all right, I got the seventh pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Caruso. And you already started. You already

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Speaker 2: gave me the reason why sort of. He has started

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Speaker 2: second halves here for the Thunder throughout the postseason, where

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Speaker 2: Diagnot has decided to take out Harnstein. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: we might see that again. I don't think he's going

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Speaker 2: But will he continue with this sort of substitution pattern, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because okay See at times is going to go small.

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Speaker 2: He in fact started two of the bigger games right

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Speaker 2: during the postseason. He started Game seven in the second half.

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Speaker 2: He did a great job matching up on Jokic, and

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Speaker 2: then he helped okay See win Game four in Minnesota

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Speaker 2: I'll take Caruso. He's going to play a part in

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Speaker 2: he's been good at like, you know, giving you a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. With a lot of these guys, as we get deeper,

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Speaker 2: But that's like by choice too, right, And will Carlisle

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Speaker 2: have Dort try and beat you. Now. The thing is

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Speaker 2: If you're dedaying, it's like, okay, he doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: whistle's being played like that, you're being too physical, you're

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Speaker 2: playing like a linebacker. But he's important You're right, he's

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Speaker 1: As my point, yeah, I do have faith in Haliburton

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Speaker 2: All right, so I have the ninth pick here. This

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Speaker 2: you can go a number of ways. I'm like gonna

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Speaker 1: I got my looney here.

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Speaker 2: It is just great because I mean, well it's a luney, Okay,

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Speaker 2: take them hard then, all right, I'll take Andrew Nemhart

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Speaker 2: even though these guys are both important. Everybody has them

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Speaker 2: as like the X factors for the Pacers to make

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Speaker 2: this competitive series. They got to hit the corner threes.

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Speaker 2: They obviously got to stay out of foul trouble, try

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Speaker 2: But also like don't have them like preading to the

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Speaker 2: These guys when they're on them, just trying to make

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how he goes from

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Speaker 2: They just play so different than the guys, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Neverhart will stay in front, Chill just probably let

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Speaker 2: So that leaves you with Nie Smith unless you say

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00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: somewhere else.

433
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go with Aaron Nie Smith. I do think

434
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 1: he'd healed after uh having just one day in between

435
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 1: his ankle injury and another game between Game five and

436
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 1: six there in that series. So I think this helps

437
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 1: having a week off, So I think he is better,

438
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: even though you know he was still shooting okay, but

439
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: he just wasn't as quick to guard Jalen Brunton. So

440
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 1: they yanked him and they said, I'm hard, you go

441
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: get him. So I want to see how much they

442
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: throw Shae him at Shay, I should say, just because

443
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: he is way bigger than them hard and that's something.

444
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right to the eleventh pick. Here torn between

445
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 2: two thunder guys. Do I go bigger? Do I go small?

446
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: You know, I'm obviously contemplating Hartenstein, who is gonna start,

447
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: or caseon Wallace coming off the bench, and I will

448
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 2: go Wallace. I will take baas you know, we've seen

449
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 2: reduced minutes for Hartenstein. Now, I think Hartenstein has potential.

450
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: He could like sort of dominate, like sneakly dominate on

451
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: the boards, right like Mitchell Robinson sort of kicked ass

452
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: on the offensive glass in the last round. Hartenstein could

453
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: play that role. But then again, they might just lean

454
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: into like, hey, we can play we can play small

455
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: ball five and obviously we even have chets, so we're

456
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: not even that concern. So all that said, I'm gonna

457
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 2: go caseon Wallace because he is gonna play, he's gonna

458
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: have to slow down, you know, Haliburton or maybe even

459
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: when he's matched up on Andrew Nemhard and stuff like that.

460
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: So I'll take him. Amazing stat here from Kevin Pelton

461
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 2: the machine now he got it from genius IQ tracking,

462
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: But this is wild. When Cason Wallace defends the player

463
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: bringing the ball up court in the playoffs, Thunder opponents

464
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: have averaged ninety two point six offensive rating as compared

465
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: to a one toh eight point three with any other

466
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City defender. Just the concept of Cason Wallace putting

467
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: that ninety foot pressure on the guard bringing it up

468
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: or whoever brings it up, helps that Thunder defense. And

469
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: he's such an instrumental role of playing off ball pressure

470
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: on the ball. And then obviously he's been of a

471
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 2: hawk moving around out there.

472
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll go case Wallas eleventh. Will America? Will

473
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: the world realize how good this guy is here in

474
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: the NBA files? I think he still will go underrated

475
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: just how good he is defensively. He doesn't have to

476
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: do a lot offensively, and so I think the average

477
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: person may just not know or watch or see what

478
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: Cason Wallas is doing out there. But I think he

479
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: will be thrown at Halliburn a ton and I think

480
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: he can stick with him at a decent rate, and

481
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: he may not have to put up a lot of points,

482
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: but he will be important.

483
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,239
Speaker 2: You are right. He is a guy that averages in

484
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: this postseason, and he plays in every game. He's averaging

485
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: like live three and three Like these are very quiet

486
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,719
Speaker 2: box scores, but he has such more of an impact

487
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: in terms of winning for okases.

488
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and he plays a ton. I mean he

489
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: plays a lot of minutes out there. I mean, I

490
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: guess it's it depends on the game. It depends. Sometimes

491
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: it has dropped a little bit. I was surprised he

492
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: has gone from twenty seven in the ray seen at

493
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: twenty two. But he's important.

494
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see him in the series.

495
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think they could go.

496
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: Especially again foul trouble falls on one of these guys

497
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: indoor to cruise or something like that. Yeah, he'll get

498
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: more opportunity. Okay, you have the what are we have?

499
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 2: Twelve pick?

500
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll throw in Isaiah Hart and Stein on

501
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: my team. I want to see him guard Pascal Siakam

502
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: to start this series. I'm sure there will be times

503
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: for that. We'll see where he goes. But really, yeah,

504
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: tough matchup, it'll be. Yeah, he's quick, too quick, but

505
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: I know check and hang with Pascal for sure. But

506
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: Hernstein is good. He's good. Well he's gonna guard everybody.

507
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: But anyway, he can do a lot out there.

508
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: I heart radio. That's still a thing. You don't hear

509
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: iHeart radio anymore? Great question, I just I mean I

510
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: forgot Sirius XM was a thing until yesterday. Stephen A.

511
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: Smith got two more shows coming? Okay, yeah, guy does

512
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: a million shows.

513
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible. Does he do that for two hours?

514
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 2: It's like unbelievable. There's two more shows announced anyway. Yeah,

515
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: art radio is it a thing? Let me know?

516
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: Yes, serious is offering a free week or something. That's

517
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: how I realized, Hey, hey we're alive. Take a week

518
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: a week? What do I want a radio for a week?

519
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: For get you hooked?

520
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

521
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: But they're like, damn, this is good.

522
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: I ain't paying. I heart still a thing.

523
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, it's amazing. It's great people. All right, I

524
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: have the thirteenth pick Ooh, I don't know where to

525
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: go here. Yeah, I don't know where to go. I

526
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: am obviously I'm sort of looking at a pacers player

527
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: and I'll take uh, I'll take Obi Toppin did I overreach.

528
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: Did I go too soon on Obi Topping? Is it

529
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: going to be on the board?

530
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No. I think the Pacers are

531
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: going to try and use all his back door cuts

532
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: on this, okay.

533
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: See like use their pressure against them. Yeah yeah, yeah,

534
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: And and again if this turns into like running gun

535
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: and we're playing some quicker, faster guys, then there's a

536
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: role for him and less of a role for a

537
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: Thomas Bryant or a Tony Bradley. You know, could we

538
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: see Topping and uh and Siakam at times being like

539
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: the five out there? I think so if turners on

540
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: the bench, so I'll be topping. Let's see some cool oops.

541
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: You think we'll get him going through the legs on

542
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: the fast break.

543
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: To throw down a dunk, to.

544
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: Be a blowout situation? Hell yeah, like twenty big steel

545
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: at half top and razzle dazzles through the legs. He

546
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: would do it, then, I think, really yeah yeah, if

547
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: they were up.

548
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: There, yeah, I guess I've got the mentality that. Okay,

549
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: so he's going to be too good to allow allow

550
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: a situation.

551
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: But there's been games where they been blown out, That's true.

552
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: There's like a handful. Right, got crushed by the Nuggets

553
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: in one game. Yeah, crushed by the Wolves.

554
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Obie has been balling. He looks great. Never tries

555
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: to make it about him, He never tries to create.

556
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: That's when he gets in trouble.

557
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: Ray is just just be spitting Carlisle. Get him out

558
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: of there. Yeah, but I'm going to stay on the

559
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: Indiana side here for my seventh pick, I'm going t

560
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: J McConnell get a little guy at the ball. We

561
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: may see, Uh, we will see situations where t J

562
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: McConnell is playing a decent amount. I think there are

563
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: chances that Halburn could get in a little foul trouble.

564
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: I I we'll see, Well, we'll see or or Halburn

565
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: has been thrown off more more importantly than foul trouble.

566
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: But TJ's balling. TJ's an incredible player.

567
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: Hey. One of my four predictions was We're gonna get

568
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: a t J McConnell podium game. He's gonna like have

569
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: one real, big, big half or game in this series.

570
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: So I like the pick.

571
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't, I can't help it. I see the

572
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Megan McConnell news, his sister signing with in the w

573
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: NBA again. I'm all TJ right, yeah, yeah, ball and

574
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: TJ all right.

575
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 2: I'm torn between Wiggins or Mathron. I'm gonna go. I'm

576
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 2: gonna go Benedict Mathrin. I'm gonna take him.

577
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: He's streaky.

578
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: This is the thing with him. Oh god, He's very streaky.

579
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: Score.

580
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: He can get your team, help get your team into

581
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: free throw bonus. You know, he puts a lot of

582
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: pressure on the rim. That guy a tax attacks, attacks,

583
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: and he can get to the free throw line. He's

584
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: strong as hell. We saw good games. He put up

585
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: twenty points in Game four in the East Finals. Then

586
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: he had twenty three in Game five versus the Knicks.

587
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: But he had like fifth team total points across the

588
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: other game. So which Mathron are you getting here? But

589
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: I think at some point, especially especially if you know

590
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: they're down two oh or maybe they are getting waxed,

591
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle will not be afraid to like get creative

592
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: and try something new. So maybe there's an opportunity there.

593
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: So I'll take I'll take Benedict Mathrin at fifteenth overall

594
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: in our draft. We might as well take this to

595
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: twenty A. Why not, let's do it. We're moving with

596
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: some pace.

597
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: Here, Okay, do it? Yes? So there's lots of okay,

598
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: see members still remaining here.

599
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: So we've got a couple of Williams, We've got a

600
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: Joe and that's probably about it.

601
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: Wigans, yeah, yeah, Aj Mitchell might even play in this series.

602
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: There's they are so deep. I'm debating between Aaron Wigans

603
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: or ken Rich Williams. I think this is a Kenrich

604
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Williams series. I'm taking.

605
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: I think you're right.

606
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm taking ken Rich Williams. They may try and size

607
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: down a little bit.

608
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: He could play the Fivecaues, yes.

609
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: And he'd be good at it. I think they'd match

610
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: up pretty well. That could throw off the pacers bigs

611
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Plus. I saw his new haircut and

612
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: that brought me back as the guy took a photo

613
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: of his new haircut.

614
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: But this is this is his higher cut.

615
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: It's his haircut, but it's fresh. Yes, the separation on

616
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: the back of his head between most of his head

617
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: and then the bottom, and it brought me back. I

618
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: had to bring back all the nicknames that I asked

619
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: for from our listeners and viewers. I said, what is

620
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: this haircut called? Here? They are the speed bump, mustache,

621
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: neck mud flaps, mini mullet mud flap, cepap two tight line.

622
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: That's very good. Oklahoma panhandle a fro divided. That is

623
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: a good a drop shag, which could be the actual

624
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what. Yeah, I think so yeah, and

625
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: it looks like a bloated exclamation point, as Roberto Aguilar said, Yeah,

626
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: so the bro Smith, Bradmulana, Robert mac MacArthur, Hoops Distillery,

627
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: see godby, Matt Johnson, twenty Cellars, and Shawn GMC with

628
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: all those. I had to give him the credit for that.

629
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: It's a fun one. Yeah. The guy's grabbed yesterday during

630
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: media day and he's gonna play.

631
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: It feels like, well, that's the funny part. Did he

632
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: he barely played in the first two rounds. Yeah, we

633
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: barely saw him. Maybe we saw him in blowout situations

634
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: like he got in there. But then he was playing

635
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: in the Wolves in the Western Conference finals. He played

636
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: in all five games.

637
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: I think.

638
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: Wow, so he had a bit of a role, like

639
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: not huge. Jenny was again in massive minutes. But yeah,

640
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think he gets an opportunity here.

641
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: So you're taking that Williams. Yeah, all right, Well, that

642
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: leaves I gotta take Aeron Wiggins at this point. Yeah,

643
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: slipped down the board here, so not much to add.

644
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: Obviously he's out there. He can do both. You can

645
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: give you a little defensive capabilities and obviously can hit

646
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: the three him and Joe sort of your three point

647
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: shooters there off the bench. So I'll take Aaron Wiggins.

648
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: Won't overthink it. A couple of a couple of finals

649
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: ago we were talking about another Wiggins, you know, so

650
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: talking about Andrew of course helping Steph Curry at that

651
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: that what fourth title for him, But Aaron trying to

652
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: get his first.

653
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: The ones who remain, Isaiah, Joe, will he play? Maybe yes?

654
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 1: Maybe now Jay Lynn not Jay Lenn Williams. And then

655
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: you're Thomas Bryant, Ben Shephard, Tony Bradley from the Pacers

656
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: side of things. I'll take Thomas Bryant. A little faith,

657
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: got a little faith, got a little faith, you know.

658
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a.

659
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: Chance, that's a chance, all these all these the deeper

660
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: cuts again, may or may not play. I do think, yeah,

661
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm taking risk here, but I do think he'll play.

662
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got play.

663
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: Had an awesome game he's got to play, Yeah, the

664
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: best game of his post season career. All right, and then,

665
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: like you said, a couple left here, we'll take. I

666
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: mean it's Ben Shephard or Joe. Give me Ben Sheppard.

667
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Carlle has shown a lot of trust in him, I think,

668
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: and this guy he's sort of like Nemhard where he

669
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: couldn't hit a three in the regular season thirty four percent. Okay,

670
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: it's like fairly average for the playoffs for Ben Shephard,

671
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: and he's out there for you know, defense as well.

672
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: They like how howard he tries on that end. So

673
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: give me Ben Shephard and his mustache.

674
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

675
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: Imagine he ran into the back of Ken rich Williams

676
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: head uh huh, stash on backstacke or it'd be like

677
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: they're kissing in a weird way.

678
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you run into him and somebody got to create

679
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: a video of that mustache taking up that space, right.

680
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: It fells in the rest of his hair.

681
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it could happen.

682
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: Imagine we learned it's like like we keep joking, go

683
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: goo Bitazi has a wig, right, and we learned that

684
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: Ben Shepherd's not a real mustache. It gets stuck right

685
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: on ken Rich Williams the divide in this area.

686
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the glue comes up.

687
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: All right, So I got Ben Shepherd is my last pick,

688
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: So you got the your final pick. It's basically between

689
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: Joe and Jalen Williams.

690
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, and Jaylen Williams may play, maybe the

691
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: the other ken Rich Willes or the replacement for ken

692
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: Rich Willes, who I think will play more than But

693
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: I'll take Joe. You never know what, Isaiah, Joe, he

694
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: could come off and drop ten for you, no problem.

695
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So there it is. I guess the guy left

696
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: on the board is Jalen Williams. Which is a pretty

697
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: amazing that we're even like having this conversation all these

698
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: guys we listed. It's not out of the realm possibility

699
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: that they actually play, of course, and have an impact

700
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: and win a quarter or a half or like a

701
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: big story. And that's weird. The NBA Finals were like,

702
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: we're like seven guys tops, maybe an eighth guy, but seven.

703
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: You you shorten the rotation, not these teams, not not

704
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: these coaches, which is sort of fun.

705
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: And there's an outside chance aj Mitchell plays and gets

706
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: some again minutes as well. He's had a couple of

707
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: double digit games here in the postseason. I mean that

708
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: was the blowout with the Wolves and a blowout of

709
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: the Nuggets. But we'll see, all.

710
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: Right, So my team was Sga, Halliburton, Chet Holmgren, Caruso, Nemhard,

711
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: Cason Wallace, Obi Toppin, Benedict Mathern, Aaron Wiggins, and Ben Sheppard,

712
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: and task went with Pascal Siakamez's first pick, j Dubb,

713
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: Miles Turner, dort Nie Smith, Hartenstein, McConnell, ken Rich Williams,

714
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: Thomas Bryant, and Isaiah Joe.

715
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, all because I couldn't name some pacers and thunder,

716
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: which ain't easy. No, you forget, You forget about what

717
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: we just talked about old Depot making two All Star games.

718
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: We're going through the drafts, We're going through the all

719
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: rookie teams, and how many All Star appearances they made.

720
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: I just I forget.

721
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Those were good pacers teams with the Victor as an

722
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: All Star and then he got hurt off.

723
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: Do you think you would have had more success if

724
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: I had said name any player to have played for

725
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 2: either franchise, because you were like you were trying to go.

726
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: Back when I hear then the year of twenty ten.

727
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: Maybe that sucked me into it. I know anytime, I

728
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: don't know. There's no excuse, no excuse, the Demonessa Bonus,

729
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: Victor Oladipo. They're treated for each other.

730
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's why I thought you'd get that.

731
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you should know that. Yeah that's weird.

732
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: But uh, thirty one players have played for both franchises.

733
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: But of course we're talking Pacers and then Sonics, Thunder

734
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: the uh the ones that lead by wind Chairs, Debt,

735
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: left Shrimp, that's a good one. Had some really good

736
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: years with the Sonics and uh, and with the Pacers too,

737
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: Paul George, Sam Perkins, Derek McKee, and then George Hill

738
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: believe it or not, cracking that he had a lot

739
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: of his success with the Pacers, not a lot with.

740
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: The fun I don't remember, even though I said him,

741
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember many of his okay see days, he.

742
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: Played literally fourteen games, So that's why you don't remember that. Yeah,

743
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: all right, So there we go, ranking them, drafting them,

744
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: and we're obviously very excited for Game one tonight. Let's

745
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about it. I guess my question is,

746
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: you know it can be about game one specific or

747
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: about the finals in totality, but like, what is the

748
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: biggest question do you think that's gonna shape the NBA

749
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: Finals if you had to pick, you know, one or two.

750
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: What's your main focus on to decide the winner?

751
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: Well, from the pacer side, it's all about Tyre's Halliburton

752
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: and getting into the paint and getting as much penetration

753
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: as he can. Not to score, because that is a

754
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: requirement of him for sure, but to set things up

755
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: to get things going, and he just has to penetrate.

756
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: He has to get by that perimeter defense of lou

757
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: Dort and then it's gonna be an Alis Grusso it's

758
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: gonna be a case in Wallace. There's gonna be some

759
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: Jadub in there as well, so there's too many of them.

760
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: He has to be decisive to get into that paint,

761
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: to get two feet into the paint, to spray to

762
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: the corners, especially because the shots come from there. But

763
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: just to get that Okay, see defense moving a little bit.

764
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: That is so important in this series. Try's Halburn. It's

765
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: on him now. I think they're going to go to

766
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: Andrew Nemhart to help him run the show plenty. If Okay,

767
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: so he's doing really good against preventing Haliburton from getting

768
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, five face guard. Sure, but the paper.

769
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: Dort, I mean, if Dort's on him, Dort is like

770
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: his whole thing is like I am on you. I

771
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: am basically inside you, like a hand up on your

772
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: chest and wherever you go, I shadow.

773
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I wonder sometimes if Lou Dort may

774
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: be a little too physical, a little too big for Helburn,

775
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: if he can, if he can keep it moving, because

776
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: he is monstrous in comparison to Halliburton, but he's so

777
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: good at that, maybe it will throw Halburn off. So

778
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I think there will be some pressure on them. Hard

779
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: to create, and here comes TJ. McConnell to help him out.

780
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: But the Pacers just have to be the pacers. They

781
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: have to move the ball. They pass more than anybody

782
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: in the playoffs three hundred and fourteen passes per game.

783
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: Golden State was right up there before they got eliminated.

784
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: That's sixty more than the thunder half per game. They

785
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: pass it a lot, So Peters, it's.

786
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: Fun as hell to lotch just keeps pinging around. My

787
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: question is sort of related to yours, I guess Haliburton

788
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: and talking about the point guard play. But can the

789
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: Pacers win or at least not get cooked in the

790
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: turnover game? Possession, possession, possession is going to be a

791
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: hot word here in the series because Indy the one

792
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: strong suit of them, despite moving that ball around, passing

793
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: it NonStop. Lakey said, they don't turn the ball over

794
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: all that much despite that free flowing offense. No third

795
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: lowest turnover rate in the league this year. And so

796
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: against any other team, you're feeling pretty good, but you know,

797
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: this is the Thunder, and they lead the league in

798
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: both forced turnover rate and turnover prevention. And I saw

799
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: Mike Shearer at Basketball Poetry a great substack, one of

800
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 2: my favorites. Great point about this defense when it cranks

801
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: up of okac. He said, quote, most teams go on

802
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: a run with hot shooting. One three turns into another,

803
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: turns into another, and suddenly it's a nine oh run

804
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: in the span of thirty seconds. But the Rolling Thunder

805
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: smack opponents with steals, blocks and deflections, and that's like,

806
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: that's how they ignite their runs. It's not offensively, it's

807
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: this defensive juggernaut that just cranks it up for a

808
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: minute or two and suddenly you're like, oh my god,

809
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: steal deflection and then it's fast break points out of

810
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: the way and in the blink of an eye whatever

811
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: we call it a thunderstorm, a thunderclap, a thunderbolt. That's

812
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: like that that little avalanche there that just like takes

813
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: games and gives it to OKC. We've seen it time

814
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: and time again. So all of that free flow and

815
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: offense from Haliburton and all these guys Sijakam and Emhart, like,

816
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: I just can't wait to see if they can do

817
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: it against a thunder where they have all these guys.

818
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: They move their feet, their arms are up, they help out,

819
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: they rotate, they talk, and then income another wave of

820
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: guys and it's NonStop. So that to me is just

821
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: like they can't they can't get destroyed in the turnover

822
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: battle because I think, Okay, so he's gonna do a

823
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: pretty good jump on the glass, sort of like the

824
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: Knicks did in the Pacers series. But it's the turnover

825
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: part of this equation. They have to keep it close.

826
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Pacers just have not been bad at it,

827
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: as you said, throughout the postseason, just a little over twelve,

828
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: So that's a good number for them, but it will

829
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: be different against okay See, there's no doubt and it

830
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter even if you know, okay s he's up

831
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: six or whatever, because okay see can just turn it

832
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: on for those few minutes. As you said, we get

833
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: that thunder clap, thunder roll, thunder bowld thunder all. Yeah,

834
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: they're all good.

835
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 2: I don't know what your favorite is, but yeah, there

836
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: are those the backbreaking, like game changing defensive stands that

837
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: blow open.

838
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: Games and flip game for their run.

839
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Because you have Caruso, Dort Wallace. Those are some of

840
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 2: the leagues. Those might be like three of the top

841
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: you know what ten in point of attack defenders just

842
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 2: ball hawks. Put that guy on the best offensive player

843
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: and they can contain them. Then you have Caruso is

844
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: also really good, and so is j dub Actually like

845
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: disruptive off the ball defensive guys like they're they're they're

846
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: guarding their guy, but like they're actually like keeping their

847
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: eye and ready to jump passing lanes and stuff like

848
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: that and use their size to get in there and

849
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: their wingspans. And then Shay's like Shane Gildas, Alexander It's

850
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: no slouch defensively, especially with his physical abilities. And I

851
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: feel like we haven't seen a lot in the postseason,

852
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: but he saw a lot over the last couple of

853
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: regular seasons because we watched a lot of Thunder games.

854
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: He loves the poke from behind steel, so I wonder

855
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: if you're gonna see that a couple times maybe versus

856
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: Haliburt and other guys he's matched on when they try

857
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: and go buy him. Sja loves to do that, uses

858
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: long reach and try and poke it up from behind

859
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: and then holme grin. He's got thirty two blocks in

860
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: sixteen games in the postseason, so he's been great. Anyway,

861
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: Pacers need to reduce, reduce, reduced turnovers because we know

862
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: okay See can run any other cues in this one

863
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: in Game one or the finals.

864
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: I think we all cover it. He just slipped in

865
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam. He's so important at initiating offense for this

866
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: team because there will be some okay See plays where

867
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: they make Shaye pass and force him to pass on

868
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: the perimeter. Pascal Siakam is one of these pacers. If

869
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: there's any little advantage they do have more playmakers, I

870
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: would say than okay, see, because you rely on Shay

871
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: and Jay Dubb in the starting lineup, here comes Cason Wallace.

872
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: I would say the Pacers have a little bit of

873
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: a number advantage with Haliburton, Nemhard, Pascal Siakam and TJ. McConnell,

874
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of it will be on

875
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakin to do it because, okay, he's going to

876
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: force the ball out of Halburn's hands, and here comes

877
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: Pascal Pascal. It's just he's that guy. He's that glue

878
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: guy that, oh the offense stinks, or five seconds left

879
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: in the shock clock or eight seconds left in the

880
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: shock clock. He makes it happen. So it's just going

881
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: to be a Pascal series. I think he's gonna be

882
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: really really important. That's why that over nineteen and a

883
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: half is nice tonight. It's nice. Just dude, Well I've

884
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: seen that a thousand times. When you see a number

885
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: below twenty, when you know a guy is capable, I

886
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: mean he should be able to do that, obviously, but

887
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: we'll see.

888
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: All right, Well, all the talk is basically done now

889
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: for the finals, which is great. Now we can actually

890
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: play the games and then sort of comment on those.

891
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: So Game one tonight eight thirty on ABC. Okay, got

892
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 2: some news for you here, just bounce around a little bit.

893
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: NBA Commissioner Adam Silver confirmed Wednesday during an appearance on

894
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: breakfast Ball. I'd never heard of this show, but that's

895
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 2: what he was on.

896
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen clips of that set. Yeah, with those

897
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: guys Carton, it's it's a Boomer and Carton. Sometimes Boomer's

898
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: not there, but it was Carton. I have Oh, I know,

899
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I know those guys. Okay, I've transcribed some of those

900
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: guys before Carton, but I know it's called breakfast Ball. Yeah,

901
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: that's new. That's a new name, I guess.

902
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: Anyway, Silver was on this and he was talking about

903
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six All Star Game, and he basically

904
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: confirmed that the type of format is going to feature

905
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: American players competing against international players. Now we sort of

906
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: knew this. Silver had already alluded to this, but he's

907
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: doubling down. It's like, hey, this is happening. He pointed

908
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: to the timing of the event in February that's going

909
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: to coincide with the Winter Olympics, which means athletes representing

910
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: their countries will sort of be in the headlines, and

911
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: he saw the success of the NHL doing it, even

912
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: though that was a whole different thing than one All

913
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: Star game. But are you going to give this a

914
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: go here? And I think you at the time were

915
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: a fan of this concept, and why not you still

916
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: feel that way.

917
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm a fan of having the country on your chest.

918
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: Ideally it would be multiple countries and not just the US. However,

919
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: US versus the World is exciting. I can see why

920
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: Adam Silver is doing this smack dab in the Olympics.

921
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: Why not get people who maybe don't know about the

922
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: All Star Game and an All Star game that's obviously

923
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: been descending in popularity over the years to actually see

924
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: a game. That being said, the most exciting thing for

925
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: me as a basketball fan is to see NBA players

926
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: excited about it. All it takes is players caring about

927
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: it and seeing yanstead of Kumpo have this tweet that

928
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: he saw the USA Versus the World, which showed photos

929
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: of what would probably be the starting teams. Yeah, in theory, yeah,

930
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: the US one of Lebron Durant, Curry, Anthony Davison, Tatum

931
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: might not be it. But when you see Jokic and

932
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Luca and Wemby and Jannis and Shay and you see

933
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Yannis say this should be next year's All Star game

934
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: format must see basketball. It's pretty exciting. And then you

935
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: get into the benches, it's exciting lineups. I mean Donovan, Mitchell, Brunson, Mobley,

936
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: Ben Caro, Booker, Bam Hallie on that.

937
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to be a problem Team America. Yeah,

938
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: what about the rest of the international.

939
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: Player It'll be fine, Sam Shnghu Franz, Larry Markin and Sobonis.

940
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: They know, these guys don't got to play a ton.

941
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, these are all All Stars I think will

942
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: be there one day.

943
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I guess that's why I won reservation

944
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: with this. It's like we're just what, we're just assuming.

945
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know how it's gonna work, right,

946
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: This could be it could be five on five for

947
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: all we know. I don't know. Maybe they just pick

948
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: normal All Stars and they say, hey, best five international

949
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: players and best five American players. You guys want to

950
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 2: play a little mini game.

951
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: I don't know.

952
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: But last year of the twenty six All Stars named

953
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: because there were some like substitutions right with injuries. I

954
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 2: think only seven of them, seven or eight were international,

955
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: So it's like we can't just like go like what

956
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to happen is like I don't want

957
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: people international guys, Let's be honest, that are not really

958
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: deserving of an All Star spot just because they're international

959
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: players to help fill out a team. But that'll be

960
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: very odd, especially because we put so much stock into

961
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: All Star appearances for a legacy, like we do, whether

962
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: it's right or wrong, we do like, oh, ten time Allstar, oh,

963
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: fifteen time Allstar whatever, even like five time Olster, Oh

964
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: that helps is a Hall of Fame chances like, so

965
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: we can't do that. So I'm just like, I guess,

966
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait and see how they're gonna actually do this.

967
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: I won't get two upset, but that parts a little

968
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: odd to me.

969
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: It is. Last year's a an odd one because Luca

970
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Okay, you know, Lowry Market didn't make it,

971
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: Franz didn't make it. But it's a bonus as well,

972
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: so I guess that's where they're coming from. Either way,

973
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: how much do you play these guys? Adam Silver loves

974
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: the forty minute game.

975
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: He won't stop talking.

976
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: He won't stop talking about it. He wants to make

977
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: this thing short as short as possible. But either way,

978
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I I'm excited about guys caring about it, and I

979
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: think they will. You just you change it, you change

980
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: it from East West to US versus the world. Guys

981
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: will care a little bit. It's during the Olympics, even

982
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: though it ain't there right at all. But I can

983
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: see why Adam Silver is continuously commenting that it's on NBC.

984
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, where the Olympics are happening, even though

985
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: it's no connection to the Olympics. But it will bring

986
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: in new fans, There's no doubt about that.

987
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that. I think the biggest thing

988
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: from Silver's clip on Breakfast Ball yesterday it's being overlooked

989
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: by everyone, is Silver said, and I'm quoting here talking

990
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: about the All Star Game is now going to be

991
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: in the afternoon instead of the evening. Not enough people

992
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: I don't think caught this, yeah, because he sort of

993
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: mumbled it, and he sort of slipped it in while

994
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: he was talking about being on NBC and having the

995
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: lead in of the Winter Olympics, and then the Winter

996
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: Olympics are coming on after So this is gonna be

997
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: on during the day. I don't mind that. No, like that,

998
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: very very good stuff doing that, and maybe that'll like

999
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: I've always talked about All Star games and All Star weekends.

1000
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: To me, they are for kids really more than anyone

1001
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: to like. At least when I was a kid, I

1002
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: thought the All Star Game was the coolest damn thing world.

1003
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: Right now, it's a different time. You can watch all

1004
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: these guys all the time, and it's not like, you know,

1005
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: you don't see the players, you only hear about them

1006
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: and all that. But on during the day. Okay, okay,

1007
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: that's interesting to me seriously.

1008
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you love the Olympics. Yeah, this is like heaven.

1009
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a more summer Olympics.

1010
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: Guy, more of a summer Olympics guy.

1011
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: But it's got to get us there. This has got

1012
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: we got to be there, aren't you guys a little

1013
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: more excited to be you know, air quotes working during

1014
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: a daytime rather than nighttime game. I think that's fun always.

1015
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh it's on the weekend though it's a Sunday. It

1016
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: doesn't matter for us, it doesn't really matter. But JD,

1017
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: you've left plenty of all Star weekends before the All

1018
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 1: Star Game happens. Yeah, now you're going to be there. Yeah,

1019
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know what you're going to be there,

1020
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: but just assuming it's a daytime game and it's the

1021
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: freaking Olympics are happening at the same time. Yeah, it's

1022
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: pretty exciting.

1023
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: Straight from speed skating into the NBA All Star Yeah, yeah,

1024
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't and now we take it from the bobs

1025
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: led track over to Los Angeles.

1026
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm assuming. I'm just lumping these things together and

1027
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: assuming the Summer Olympics are so good. One of my

1028
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: best memories experiences in sports for sure being at a

1029
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: Summer Olympics. Oh yeah, of course, of course. So I'm

1030
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: just excited to see both sides lumped it. Of course,

1031
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: it's winter, it's different.

1032
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1033
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: Wait, does that mean it's going to start in the

1034
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: morning if it's in LA If he's saying it's an

1035
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: afternoon game.

1036
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 2: Good point. He did say afternoon Where Olympics are in Milan?

1037
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I think so in Italy? Yeah yeah, yeah, okay,

1038
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 2: time zone. Trying to figure that out. The point is

1039
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a bunch of winter Olympics. On whether

1040
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: it's live or not being shown on NBC. Then we're

1041
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: going to show you the All Star Game, and then

1042
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: right after that we're going more into prime time, the

1043
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: primetime version of the Olympics. Y yeah, okay, I mean

1044
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: I'm into it. I mean it should help ratings, but should.

1045
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: Help should for sure. The live Olympics will be afternoon

1046
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: as well, like early afternoon, considering Italy eight hours ahead.

1047
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: Why do that's a great idea.

1048
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: Forget basketball, have them compete in these little mini Winter

1049
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: Olympics sports there we go. Then they can all represent

1050
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: their own country and we'll count them as medals in

1051
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: the Winter Olympics.

1052
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: Can play hockey, I we're gonna find out.

1053
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, send them all over to Italy and have the

1054
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: NBA All Stars compete in the events. And whoever Anthony

1055
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 2: Edwards always tells us, I'd be the best at everything.

1056
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: Let's find out. You see how you are on the luge.

1057
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: He's on the team. Yeah, okay, I didn't even mention him.

1058
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: Yeah he's because I guess I didn't mention him because

1059
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: he's playing hockey. He's not going to be all right.

1060
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see what they got cooking here. I

1061
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: mean it can't be worse than it was. Well, totally

1062
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: can't be worse.

1063
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: Well, Adam's Adam messed up last year when you did

1064
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: that variety show. That wasn't a basketball game. It was

1065
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: not a basketball game. It was mister Beast who great guy.

1066
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: It was Kevin Hart was.

1067
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: The swan song for inside.

1068
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh. That wasn't a basketball game. That That first version

1069
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: of the tournament was all right, it was good. The

1070
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: first version of the tournament. Wemby was going both wait,

1071
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: he was making an impact on both sides. They cared

1072
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 1: in that first Whatever it's over, Adam, we can design

1073
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: it for you. We can make it happen. It's not

1074
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a forty minute game. It's gonna be a

1075
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: basketball game. Guys are gonna get out from the locker

1076
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: room and play basketball.

1077
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 2: He goes against just play this like four years, every game,

1078
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: every year. You like, it's gonna happen. It's good work.

1079
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna play hard. I mean, God, bless you.

1080
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: It almost happened like happened. Well, they messed up. They did.

1081
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: That wasn't a basketball with you. I think they should

1082
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: play basketball. That's what I'm concerned about. Okay, Anyway, we'll see.

1083
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: I should have made the trivia question for the first

1084
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: pick in the NBA Finals Best Players Draft. Could you

1085
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: name all four teams from last year's Mini Tournament the

1086
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: All Star Tournament?

1087
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh? Named those? I thought we were talking about Finland.

1088
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: That was fun.

1089
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: Do you remember that the four team names were?

1090
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh, they have to TMCs, right, they're like the.

1091
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: I had to do with the tn T people.

1092
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Oh it was theirs. Yeah, yeah, I forgot. I thought

1093
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: it had to do with TMC.

1094
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: You're thinking of the rising Stars. Yeah, it was Chuck's

1095
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: Global Stars versus Kenny's Young Stars versus shack O G's

1096
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: versus Candace's Rising Stars because they won their way in.

1097
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: If sorry, did you say international for one of them?

1098
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: I said Global Stars because that was Chuck's whole thing. Yeah,

1099
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: that was the thing, because they like rigged the draft.

1100
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: Remember I remember they gave us a precursor to this,

1101
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: I guess. Anyway, Moving on, the Phoenix Suns are hiring

1102
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: Cavaliers assistant coach at Jordan ought to be the franchise's

1103
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: next head coach. We had a pair of Calves assistants

1104
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: and Johnny Bryant. They emerged as the finalists for Phoenix's

1105
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: coaching job this week, and they met with the Sun's

1106
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 2: top brass in Michigan on Tuesday. According to Schams, Devin

1107
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: Booker was involved in the search process and gave Ott

1108
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: his stamp of approval. So Jordan Ott tasks forty years old,

1109
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: been a longtime assistant coach for over a decade. He's

1110
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: worked under Budenholzer, who it replaces in Phoenix, and he's

1111
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: worked under Kenny Atkinson, jacqu Vaughn, Steve Nash, Darvin Ham.

1112
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Jordan Ott as the next head coach

1113
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: of the Suns their fourth different head coach in the last.

1114
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: Four seasons, Yes, that is wild. He seems like he

1115
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: is well deserving of this, given the stamp of approval

1116
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: from Devin Booker, also from Steve Nash, who was also

1117
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: his head coach in Brooklyn where he was an assistant there.

1118
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: He worked with Kenny Atkinson in Brooklyn and Cleveland just

1119
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: this past year, so he knows great offenses. Can he

1120
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: use those chess pieces and do it himself? I suppose

1121
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: it could happen. Now. Everybody watching the Phoenix Suns sort

1122
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: of lumps this together with matt ishbia as Hire of

1123
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: Brian Gregory as the GM, who was an assistant coach

1124
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: when Ishbia played at Michigan State. We're going back here,

1125
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: but Jordan Not was also part of Michigan State getting

1126
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: his master's. They're part of as a video coordinator. But

1127
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: this is way different than Brian Gregory, who no one

1128
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: in the NBA would have hired as a GM because

1129
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: he was a coach in college. Their new GM was

1130
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: a coach in college for like twenty years and then

1131
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: Matt Ashbia brought him in to sort of be a

1132
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: consultant to help out, and then bam gives him the

1133
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: GM job here. Ought I know people are making that

1134
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: Michigan State connection back to Matt Ishbia's days as a

1135
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: player with Michigan State. It is very different because last

1136
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: year Charles Lee got the job in Charlotte, but there

1137
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: was a good chance that Jorda Not was going to

1138
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: get that job. So it is a legitimate choice here.

1139
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: We'll see how he does. I did go into yesterday's

1140
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: conversation about the Phoenix Suns getting in a younger type

1141
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: of coach and a guy that doesn't have a lot

1142
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: of experience that this guy is that he's forty years old.

1143
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: He's extremely young here, if I'm not mistaken. So he

1144
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: fits that that archetype of a new head coach, which

1145
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: is good. Like I just mentioned Charles Lee, guys have

1146
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: been around but haven't got a chance. Those are the

1147
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: types of guys that seemingly will get more and more jobs.

1148
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: And that's a different direction for the Suns. They've been

1149
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: generally bringing in like, hey, you've won a title, bring

1150
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: in big name Vogel, bring in big name Budenholzer. And

1151
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: this is a different direction. Does it show you that

1152
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: maybe they are more rebuilding. I mean, I know they're

1153
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: going to say they're not, but you know, I think

1154
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: bringing in a guy like ought doesn't mean like, oh

1155
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: we want to we're going to be like instant contenders

1156
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: or something like that. This is changing the identity a

1157
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: little bit, probably for the better. I think this is

1158
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: smart and we'll see what he's like. Sham's wrote that

1159
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: Odd is known around the NBA is a strong communicator

1160
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: with his players and his coaching staff, someone who spends

1161
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: an incredible amount of time studying trends and pathways to

1162
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 2: adjust based on new patterns as a pattern man. But

1163
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: he's also known as like a grinder, So yeah, they're

1164
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: going this direction. Now. You brought up Ishbia. Did you

1165
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: see these reports from phnx Oh?

1166
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: I sure did.

1167
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ishbia apparently emailed the Sun's basketball operations team internally

1168
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, taking accountability for not doing enough to establish

1169
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 2: a culture and an identity in Phoenix. The Sun's owner

1170
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: stated that he tried running the typical NBA owner playbook

1171
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: of hiring experts, signing checks, and getting out of the way,

1172
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: but no one was happy with that outcome. So now,

1173
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: despite insisting that he is not reviewing film or designing

1174
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: offenses or even running the draft room, Ishbia intends to

1175
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: be extremely active in the decisions and management. He acknowledged

1176
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: his more unconventional approach as an owner is to ensure

1177
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: the Sons get back to the requisite level of winning

1178
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: that's been absent the last few years. Could be a

1179
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: big uh oh. Here is he's saying, I was hands off.

1180
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: I'm just hiring people, hiring the experts, getting out of

1181
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: the way, paying them, and it wasn't working. So I'm

1182
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: getting in there now a little bit more.

1183
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, taking control of this. It sure seemed like

1184
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: he was getting his hands in there when he said

1185
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,959
Speaker 1: regardless when he came in and said, we are going

1186
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: to get Kevin Durant, James Jones, We're going to get

1187
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: it right. So it's already been indicative of that organization,

1188
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: so not all that differ to this.

1189
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: You're sort of just roll your eyes out, like, oh,

1190
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: now you're going to get involved.

1191
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hired Gregory as his GM because of who

1192
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: he is, and there I was more worried. Yea, I

1193
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: was more worried then. Obviously Brian Gregory has a experience

1194
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: in terms of basketball, but not as a GM, so

1195
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: that was a little bit more of a concern than

1196
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: the Jordan not higher. I do wonder how the front

1197
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: office will operate, how it's going to happen, this whole

1198
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: idea of the Sun's going younger in terms of their yes, coaching,

1199
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: but also just the way they play their roster. Are

1200
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: they going to build it around Devin Booker? Are they

1201
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: just going to go super young? Are they going to

1202
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: go get draft picks? I mean that is what Brian Gregory,

1203
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: the GM has been hired for that or so just

1204
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions. It was like I couldn't believe

1205
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: that they hired Brian Gregory, to run their front office

1206
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: to change this thing up. So there are many questions.

1207
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: It's been written about by Doug Holler on the Athletic.

1208
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean I went through it. I went just trying

1209
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: to understand. Yeah, is this a NEPO higher as people

1210
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: are calling it. But I think besides that higher for

1211
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: the GM, the Jordan not is definitely a different, different route.

1212
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, people are joking that they should be called the

1213
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: East Lansing Suns. Yeah, yeah, because this is now a

1214
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: lot of Michigan State in the top brass here Ishbia,

1215
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: like you said, Gregory and now now ought here Jordan.

1216
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: You know, Jordan Odd is married to a woman also

1217
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: named Jordan. I didn't know that Jordan and Jordan be weird. Well,

1218
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: you brought up the Suns like trying to maybe go younger.

1219
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: Will they they want their picks back. Let's pivot to

1220
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: the latest with Durant, because, according to a Tuesday report

1221
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: from the athletics Kelly Eco, the Sons are being aggressive

1222
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: in their efforts to trade veteran star Kevin Durant, which

1223
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: have involved several calls to the Houston Rocket since the

1224
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: end of the season. Eco also wrote that the Sons

1225
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: have gradually lowered their asking price for the thirty six

1226
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: year old All Star since potential trade talks began. We

1227
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: also have seen a lot of reports. I think Sham's

1228
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: had it. I feel like they're just did as well.

1229
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: There are four to six contenders that are interested in

1230
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: Durant this offseason. Now. I tweeted this yesterday. Okay, the

1231
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: Rockets they're interested. I think especially the Suns want their

1232
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: picks back, so that's a big part of the equation.

1233
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: The Spurs seem interested, and there's some, you know, some

1234
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: whispers that KDI would maybe go play for San Antonio.

1235
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: I think the Timberwolves are a team still interested in

1236
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: potentially trying to make a move for KD to pair

1237
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: him with Ant. And then it's like, what are these

1238
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: other teams? What are these other one to three teams?

1239
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: I guess people say the Knicks. People say, I guess

1240
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: the Mavericks were at one point. I don't think they are.

1241
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: But four to six does seem high. I saw your

1242
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: tweet and I didn't see any good responses that.

1243
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, people said the Heat are always interested. I guess

1244
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: the Warriors were interested at the trade unline, and they

1245
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: go again.

1246
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: Butler so Yeah, it feels like the first few teams

1247
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: that you mentioned are the ones.

1248
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: You think it's either going to be Rockets, Spurs or Wolves. Yeah,

1249
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: making it durant.

1250
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Wolves, do you think, Yeah,

1251
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: Rockets are Spurs. It sort of makes sense to me.

1252
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: And I saw from from the X a potential trade.

1253
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: It was reported by Jake Windback, and it sort of

1254
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: makes sense when you look at it because the Spurs

1255
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: have a lot in the cupboards for draft picks, and

1256
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: they have a lot of young players that potentially, you know,

1257
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: maybe could impress the Phoenix sunse So it feels like

1258
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: the Sons are going way younger. And so I deal

1259
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: with Devin Vessel and Harrison Barnes being the guys that

1260
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: come back along with a couple of their draft picks,

1261
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: because they do have a lot one of their own picks.

1262
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: Let's say it's the number fourteen pick this month in

1263
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: the draft.

1264
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: So not their super high pick, their second one.

1265
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the number two in coming. I don't think for KD.

1266
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: Although you know, we'll talk about how long KD has left.

1267
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: I think it's still a long time. But they also

1268
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: have so many picks. They have a couple of Bulls picks.

1269
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: It's got some restrictions on it, but they have one

1270
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: in twenty six, they have one in twenty seven. They

1271
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: have Hawks picks or a Hawks pick, I should say

1272
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: that that awesome pick that they got for dejon Tay Murray.

1273
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of picks there. So the Spurs

1274
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: one does seem to work. And I bring up Kevin

1275
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: Durant h because he'll be thirty seven going into next year,

1276
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: which is it's old, but he seems like he is

1277
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: aging extremely well. He had a ridiculously good year shooting

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Speaker 1: the ball from everywhere. So it's got to be a

1279
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: lot of years if you're if you're the Spurs, you

1280
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 1: have to have him a lot of years to pair

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Speaker 1: with Wemby. And so that's why I can understand what

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01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: people are saying, Nah, but if it's five years with Wemby,

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot of years. I know. I'm saying, this

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: guy's going to be playing well into his well into

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01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: his forties, playing well well into his forty Yeah, I

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01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: think he will.

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Speaker 2: The thing here. I mean, okay, the Spurs, You're right,

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01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: they have a lot of picks. I guess Devin Missel

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01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: is the key piece there, I mean Harrison Barnes obviously

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Speaker 2: to make the money work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that going.

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Speaker 2: Back, but Eco noted that Phoenix is looking to be

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01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: aggressive in regaining full control of their draft capital, okay,

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01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: starting with the number ten pick in next month's draft.

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01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: And the Rockets are the team that has all of

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01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: their draft capitol, or at least some of it. They

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Speaker 2: have the suns twenty twenty five and twenty twenty seven

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01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: first round picks, and they have the right to swap

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01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine first and then the Wizards hold a

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01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: bunch of rights to swap selections in twenty six and

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01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: thirty with Phoenix. I mean, they just have nothing and

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: they would love to get their own back. And I

1303
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: think that's an important part. Like we always talk like,

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01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I get all these trades or so used

1305
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: to get all these draft picks, But if like they're

1306
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: not yours and they're other teams, it's like, now you're

1307
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: banking on those teams of course being bad and and

1308
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: then obviously hitting it in the lottery and getting lucky.

1309
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: But if they're yours, you have more obviously control over

1310
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: the direction and maybe the promise of those picks. Now

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01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: I know Obviously the draft lottery changes that to some extent,

1312
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: but still I think they really would love their own

1313
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: draft capital back. And that's why the Rockets can play

1314
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: hard ball here to some extent. They can just be like, like,

1315
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: that's why I think these is going down, down, down

1316
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: them lowering what they would actually take for Durant if

1317
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: they are really aggressively talking to the Rockets here, and

1318
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 2: the Rockets are just like probably just wise to be like,

1319
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: pluck out this young player and then maybe not this

1320
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: less pick, like they just if they want their own

1321
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: picks back so bad and starting even with this number

1322
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: ten pick this year, then they can afford to do that.

1323
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: So I guess, I don't know. I don't know if

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01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: he's going to end up on Houston San Antonio or

1325
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: it is the NBA. There's always a wild car team

1326
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: that can come out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: It's such an interesting thing for Devin Booker, who gave

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01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: this stamp of apprusal for this young coach to say,

1329
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: all right, I mean this is where we're going, but

1330
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: also we're gonna trade Kevin Durant, and so how good

1331
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: are you going to be for a long period of

1332
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: time here in the Western conference. That's just too good.

1333
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: Where are they gonna build from? And yes, they can

1334
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: go get their own picks. And I think you mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven or twenty nine are the ones that Houston

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01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: still has.

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01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: According they have the swap in twenty nine. Yeah, yeah,

1338
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 2: and then have the twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeh okay, I believe yes. So it's it's fun. It's

1340
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: fun doing this. I'm all over the sport tack. I

1341
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: love it. I call it sport tach. I don't know why,

1342
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: but it's sports tracks. Yeah, but but it's it's so good.

1343
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: It's just so good at using the trade. It's the

1344
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: best trade machine around.

1345
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: It's your favorite trade man, that's my favorite.

1346
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: It's fun, it's fine. So what are the Suns going

1347
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: to do? Does Devin Booker want to be there for

1348
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: an extended period of time? Here? Again in a West

1349
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: that's tough, It's very tough. What is that team? They are?

1350
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal and Devin Booker as their head guys. If

1351
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: you're trading Kevin Durant unless you get something spectacular and

1352
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: the Devin vessel is sort of a little too similar

1353
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: to Devin Booker, I guess, so maybe that trade looks

1354
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: a little but it's all about the picks.

1355
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: I guess the final piece from Kelly's article that copied

1356
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: by Spries maybe a little bit. Houston is expected to

1357
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: bring back Fred Van Vliet, according to both the team

1358
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: and league sources, by either picking up his forty four

1359
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: point nine million dollar team option for the twenty five

1360
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: twenty six season or negotiating a new deal at a

1361
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: lower but team friendly salary. So that doesn't mean Van

1362
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: Vliet hypothetically could be moved, especially if you're go big

1363
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: game hunting. Maybe you know, we're talking honest at that point,

1364
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: But sounds like they really want him there, and maybe

1365
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: they just renegotiate and get a sort of a longer

1366
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: deal but more team friendly.

1367
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah, like he's been important to them. He has been, Yeah,

1368
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: and he got better as the season went on into

1369
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs because he didn't have an incredible regular season.

1370
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: But kudos to Fred van Vliet for getting that paid

1371
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: that two years plus a team option, which it looks

1372
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: like Houston would say, yeah, let's do it next year.

1373
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: There's just not a lot that they're obligated to pay

1374
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: right now. They can still do some things, obviously. Jalen

1375
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: Green and Shane Goon's new contracts kick in, but you

1376
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: know they're not. There's there's money to be had there.

1377
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: With Steven Adams coming off the books, they could do

1378
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: some things, all right.

1379
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: We'll call it there. Getting you already for Game one

1380
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals tonight, Trey and esh are gonna

1381
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: have an immediate reaction pod, hopefully from the floor of

1382
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: Oka See So later tonight, so keep your eye on

1383
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: that both on YouTube and in your podcast feed, and

1384
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 2: then we're back here tomorrow from the Classic Factory to

1385
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: obviously break down Game one in detail, talk about some

1386
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: other NBA news. There's always trade rumors right now, and

1387
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: really get into it. Maybe just have some rapid fire fun.

1388
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: It is the drop, why not, so we'll do that.

1389
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: But those guys tonight, so again subscribe, share the show

1390
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: five star ratings and reviews. Thanks for joining us today.

1391
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Speaker 2: It was a fun one and we will see you

1392
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: either tonight the guys from Oka See or tomorrow here

1393
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: in the Classic Factory. Till then, Clipper Bros.

1394
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Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and remember the thunder do their

1397
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: postgame interviews with their entire team. They still do that

1398
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I know people think that's corny. I

1399
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: don't think that's corny at all. I like to think

1400
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: about the Miami Heat when Chris Bosh used to do

1401
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: the thing. And then, you know, the other thing. What

1402
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: I want to see is our guys, Ashton Tray in

1403
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: the scrum. Get some sort of video. Yeah, I just

1404
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: want to see them as part of it. You can't

1405
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: do you can't do the show right behind them. That's

1406
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: too many things. But yeah, I want to see him.

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: I want to see him today.

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01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 2: Well, Isaiah Hartenstein said he was a big fan of

1409
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: No Dunk slashed the starters he did. Told Tek right

1410
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 2: to his face. He got excited. It's like, oh, yeah,

1411
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 2: I used to watch you all.

1412
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: The time, man, when I was younger.

1413
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: He said, watch it now I'm old man. Now all right, Well,

1414
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 2: we can't wait to see the guys from tonight in Okay,

1415
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: see and enjoy Game one. We'll see tomorrow. Praise the

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Speaker 2: Day people,