1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: A day has come that many people across the country 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: and across the world cannot take in. Larry King is gone, 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: a giant amongst men and women, a broadcast legend. He 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: lived his life till the very last moment. God bless him. 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Condolences today from former President Bill Clinton, saying he gave 6 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: a direct line to the American people and worked hard 7 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: to get the truth for them. From Oprah Winfrey, it 8 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: was always a treat to sit at your table and 9 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: hear your stories. Thank you. Born in Brooklyn in nineteen 10 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: thirty three, young Larry Zeiger dreamed of a career in radio. 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: He chose the name King from a store ad Welcome 12 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: to Larry King Live. In nineteen eighty five, Ted Turner 13 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: lured him to the new Beyond the Block CNN Any 14 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Personal Regrets. King became the network's biggest drawer. We're honored 15 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: to have the President and first Lady with us. He 16 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: said his secret was not too over prepare, and some 17 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: called him on it. I was the number one Shawn Television. Larry, 18 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: you know who I am. King even bragged he never 19 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: read the books his guests promoted. What I worry about 20 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: is where I think I know too much. The day 21 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I go into a studio saying I've asked all the 22 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: questions and I've heard all the answers is the day 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I gotta quit. You know, just hearing his voice makes 24 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: my eyes fill up with tears. With me literally an 25 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: all star panel that knew Larry very well, and I 26 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: wonder who Larry's asking questions to right now? First of 27 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: all with me. Tammy Hadad, former executive producer of Larry 28 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: King Alive. Peter Tedeski, former Larry King Live executive senior producer, 29 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: creator of Larry King Weekend, Bert Debrow, senior executive producer 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: of Delhi Blast Live, nationally syndicated, and the creator of 31 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: Sally Jesse Raphael. He knows about talk shows, the woman 32 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: who went into the mind of Larry King, the head 33 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: of his research team. She knew what he wanted, she 34 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: knew where he wanted to go with every single story. 35 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: Carol Buckland is with me with Larry for years. And 36 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Art Harris, Emmy Award winning National Investigative correspondent CNN National 37 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Bureau Atlanta, former Krepp reporter with The Washington Post. I mean, 38 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start, so let me 39 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: just start with you. Tammy had Dad, former executive producer 40 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: of Larry King Live. When I hear someone as a 41 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: friend of the Muppets, a friend of Clinton and Trump 42 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: and Obama and Reagan, I mean, it's kind of hard 43 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: to find with that, that's for sure. And it's great 44 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: that all these people took the time to come out 45 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: and talk about the relationship with Larry. But that's what 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: was unique about what he did. He brought people together. 47 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: He allowed them to tell their story. And isn't that 48 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: the greatest gift that you could give someone. So you're 49 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: president of the United States, Okay, you're a king, you're 50 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: a taxi driver, you're a muppet, and when you go 51 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: on TV, you know, it's exposure. If you'd think about 52 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: all the guests you've talked to and how you're the 53 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: same way. You always made people feel comfortable, even if 54 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: it was the toughest story. And I think what he 55 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: did would give people the gift of his attentions and 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: his respect. And it's funny because this week and they 57 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: keep running one of the serial killer clips and it's 58 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: such a reminder that Larry never judged people's transgressions. What 59 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: he was trying to do was give them the chance 60 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: to tell their story. You know Carol Buckland with Larry 61 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: for years and years senior editorial producer for Larry King Live. 62 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember Carol Buckland when I would be 63 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: on Larry's show, or God help me sub anchoring for him, 64 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: which I did for many years his guest anchor. Your 65 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: notes would be meticulous. And when people mocked Larry for 66 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: wanting to have a clean slate when he went out there, 67 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: all he had with him were your notes. That was it? 68 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: What did Larry want? What's the secret? But it's It 69 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: always irked me when people said that, oh, he doesn't 70 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: really prepare. He thought about his interviews, He thought about 71 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: the people. He was a voracious reader, and he was 72 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: insatiably curious. And I didn't tell him what to ask. 73 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: I might suggest interesting topic. I always drew the analogy. 74 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: The interview starts and he's walking down a really long 75 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: corridor with thousands of doors, and my job was to 76 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: put an X on certain doors, maybe give him a 77 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: little hint, but essentially say knock on this door with 78 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 1: one of your simple but on point questions, and interesting 79 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: stuff is going to come out. And it was not 80 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: only and I agree with Tammy that he paid attention 81 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: to people. He gave them his respect. He also listened 82 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: better than almost anybody I know in the business. If 83 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: you go back and read transcripts of his programs, you 84 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: will notice he doesn't talk. There's maybe a one sentence question. 85 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: It's not a buffet question. And he was fond of saying, 86 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm not learning. My audience is learning if I'm talking. 87 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: So for him, I knew it was all about the guest, 88 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: the guests having an opportunity to tell his or her story, 89 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: and Larry saw himself as a conduit, as a substitute 90 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: for the audience, and his audience was as diverse as 91 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the guests he had on. And Carol, you should also 92 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: explain how you think the other hosts read all those books, right? 93 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: You know? It always makes me laugh, Like you know, 94 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Nancy, did you read the book of every 95 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: person you had on? I mean Larry may have read 96 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, five reviews, but you know he wanted to. 97 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: He wanted to learn about the author from what they 98 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: had to say. Right, Carrol's just made me laugh when 99 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: I heard all these people repeating that. Well, I did, 100 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: as most editorial producers do. I did pre interviews with 101 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: the guests, and I was not all of them, but 102 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: many of them would say to me, oh my gosh, 103 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: you've read me yuh, because I needed to know what 104 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: would be interesting in it. But yes, the idea. Yes, 105 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: some people do read some of the books, or they 106 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: go to the movies or whatever. But for a lot 107 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: of them, they're backed up even more significantly than Larry was. 108 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Larry had a lifetime of experience. The interviews 109 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: might have been different if he hadn't had my research, 110 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a lot of things I knew. He 111 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to know what people were going to say 112 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: to them. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, I want 113 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: to jump right back in to morning and celebrating our 114 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: friend Larry King, and I want to start with this. 115 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Do you recognize these voices? One day and said your dame. Well, 116 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: now they ask around so there's no embarrassed to find 117 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: out if you would be interested, and they do it 118 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: in a very sly way because some people have turned 119 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: it down and they don't want to be embarrassed. So 120 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: when I heard this little hush wish, I screamed, I said, 121 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: oh course I would. I wanted to be a dame. 122 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: That's amazed. Nothing like a dame. There will have been 123 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: abroad all my life. Is it still a kick when 124 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: the man says and now, ladies and jump, They don't 125 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: even say it, I guess anymore. You just walk out right. No, 126 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: they're making a kick, Frank, that's still a kick. Absolutely. 127 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: And the first, the first I swear on my mother's soul, 128 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: the first forty first four five seconds. I tremble every 129 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: time I will take the step and I walk out 130 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: of the wing on to the stage, because I keep 131 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I wonder if it'll be there, if 132 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: when I go for the first sounds that I have 133 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: to make, will it be there? Can you believe it? 134 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: Peter Tadeski, former Larry King Live executive senior producer, creator 135 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: of Larry King Weekend. Peter, in case you didn't recognize 136 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: those voices, Elizabeth Taylor and Frank Sinatra, I mean amazing 137 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: because Frank Sinatra would not give interviews, right. Absolutely, It's 138 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: amazing who Larry could get. And I'll tell you another one. 139 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: It's actually before I worked on the show, I used 140 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: to do Prime News with Bernie Shaw, which would go 141 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: up until nine o'clock Larry started at nine. That's all 142 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: I got to know Tammy originally, and Tammy very generously 143 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: because you don't want to bother celebrities. One night had 144 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: Audrey Hepburn on My mother is the world greatest Audrey Hepburn, 145 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: like everyone on the planet Earth is a fan. And 146 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: I said to Tammy, can I come meet her? Please? 147 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: And Tammy said yes. So I got to hang out 148 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: with Audrey Hepburn for a couple of hours. So where 149 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: else in life you get to hang out with Elizabeth 150 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: Taylor and Frank Sinatra and Audrey. I'm doing what Larry 151 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: told me not to do. Interrupt. He told me that 152 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: every single night I was on his program or guest 153 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: host every night, and he said it in a very 154 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: fatherly way. All right. He wasn't fussing or being made. 155 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: I could just see him looking at me on the 156 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: screen when I would interrupt. But Peter, I agree. The 157 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: people you can meet and Larry King's green room, it's incredible, Peter, 158 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. And let me let me tell you how 159 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: it happened with Kermitt de Frog. I pay credit for 160 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: that one. We were doing a week Larry's going to 161 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: be on vacation for a week, and we were gonna 162 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: flip the chant, flip the table basically and have a 163 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: week of guest hosts where like Dan Quayle was the 164 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: host and Tim Russert was his guest. We did that 165 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: for a week to try to figure out what to 166 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: do with Larry. So coincidentally that week, Friday was falling 167 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: on April first, and it popped in my head and 168 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I said, I've got a brilliant idea for the guest 169 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: host on Friday. Let's have Kermit the Frog be the 170 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: guest host and we'll play it straight. And everyone loved 171 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the idea. I went up to New York, I met 172 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: with the Henson people, we worked on it. So it 173 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: was my childhood fantasy fulfilled. I got to go up 174 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: and work with Henson Productions in their Muppet townhouse for 175 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: a couple of days and we did this show and 176 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: it was a blast. And at the end of the show, 177 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: Larry's on vacation, but he called in. We had it 178 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: set up so as part of Larry's generosity that even 179 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: though he was on vacation, he called into critique Kermit's hosting. 180 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: But our phone system and Tammy can attest to this 181 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: our phone system, you couldn't talk to the people, the 182 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: callers without being heard on air, so I couldn't wrap Larry, 183 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: and he was running long, so I had to tell 184 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Kermit to wrap them up. So Kermit's trying to shut 185 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: Larry up, and Larry goes, Kermit, it, you're trying to 186 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: shut me up on my own show, and Kermit then says, well, 187 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: you know how it is with Peter, which of course 188 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: nobody at home knew who Peter was. So then Larry 189 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: kind of gave a little snarky comment about me. So 190 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: my claim to fame in CNN history is that Kermit 191 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: and Larry dissed me on the air. I love that, 192 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: and I guess Mike claim to famous Larry fussing at 193 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: me after every show, and I would try to do 194 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: better and then do the very same thing the next 195 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: time with me. Senior executive producer Daily Blast Live, nationally 196 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: syndicated talk show and creator of Sally, Jesse Rafael and 197 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: Jerry Springer. Let's don't leave that out, Bert Dbrow. I 198 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: mean those red glasses. I mean, if you just put 199 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: the red glasses on a billboard, most people would know 200 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Sally Jesse Raphael, tell me you're the you know, golden 201 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: boy of talk show. How did Larry change talk? Well, 202 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll tell you, Nancy. I'm listening to 203 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: everybody and I'm the audience here because I'm loving what 204 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm hearing here. But I think a word that we're 205 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: leading out which is a really really important one, and 206 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: you don't hear it a lot these days, and it's 207 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: the word broadcaster. And you just don't have broadcasters anymoren't 208 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: brought up that way. Larry was a broadcaster. And when 209 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: I hear things, which of course I knew too, that 210 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: he didn't read the book, he didn't do this, He 211 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: didn't do that. At the end of the day, he 212 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: didn't seem to have the ego that a lot of 213 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: hosts did have. A lot of hosts like to brag 214 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: that they read the book. They bragg and brag and bragg. 215 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: And as everybody is saying, as I'm listening, Larry was 216 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: interested in two things, the guests and the audience. And 217 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: some people just have that something. And I know it's 218 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: a cliche when I say that, but they just have 219 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: that something. And in a world where talk has got 220 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: all over the place all those years, very very aggressive 221 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: as the show you mentioned that I did. Larry didn't change. 222 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: Larry just was Larry. And you know why, That's what 223 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: people loved when all is said and done. I think 224 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: people have said this too. You like somebody the first ten, fifteen, 225 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: twenty seconds, and everybody seemed to like Larry. He was 226 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: able to throw softballs, not hardballs, and it didn't matter. 227 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: I think that's why everybody did the show as much 228 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: as they did, and why he got the people that 229 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: he got. I mean Carol Bucklin, who was his senior 230 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: editorial producer, and I know because of the I don't 231 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: know how many times I had the honor of guest 232 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: hosting for Larry King. I mean, as I always say, 233 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: Carol Bucklin, how did a girl who grew up on 234 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: a red dirt road in middle Georgia end up getting 235 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: to meet Larry King, getting to be on with Larry King, 236 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: and getting to guest anchor for Larry King. I mean 237 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: literally every night I would pinch myself. I could not 238 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: believe my good fortune to get to be part of 239 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: the Larry King team. Talking about how he got these guests. 240 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember in all the conduit controversy. Remember, Larry 241 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: managed to somehow end up getting conduit relatives on, He 242 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: got their families on. I mean he had the nat 243 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's what Burt dubrog just said. He would 244 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: give the guest a chance to speak, and they wouldn't 245 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: go away feeling bad. He was non judgmental, Nancy, I'll 246 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: never get when Tammy and Dodd called me and made 247 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: a few headlines at the Washington Post as journalists covering 248 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: the scandalous TV preachers down South, Kim and Tammy Faye Baker, 249 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: and they read articles I've done for the Washington Post. Hey, Art, 250 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: do you think you could get us in touch with that, 251 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: with that very you know, the below the belt character 252 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: you just wrote. Sure, And Larry had these people on 253 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: who I had interviewed, and he was so non judgment 254 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: and generous that they just opened up and he was 255 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: in touch with with what people wanted to hear. He 256 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: got out of the way. I'm like, as as Tammy 257 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: was saying, a lot of hosts who insert themselves into 258 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: the narrative, he was a listener, and I think that's 259 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: what relax people and just made them feel so welcome 260 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: and eager to go on the show. Are you say 261 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: Jim and Tammy fay Baker? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that 262 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: was incurate all of them. Art actually helped us, right, No, 263 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: art really launched helped the first round of great success 264 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: of Larry King Live. Was you know, covering this community 265 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: and now aren't you're actually reminding me about you know, Nancy? 266 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: It was it was. It wasn't people from New York 267 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: in LA that were featured on the show, right, It 268 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: was really people that appeal to whatever Middle America you 269 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: can call it now. So Jim and Tammy Baker were 270 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: iconic important people. Hey, you know what, not a lot 271 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: of people would have put them on the air, right Art, Well, yeah, 272 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: And then when when Jimmy Swaggert had his fall from 273 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: Grace and I got the first interview with the lady 274 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: of the Knight who ministered to him in the Nottel motel. 275 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: You got her to go on the show and Larry, 276 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: she spoke after she told him. I asked her, said, 277 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Swaggert says he's never kissed a woman other than 278 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: his wife, Debora. And she says, well, I don't believe 279 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: he ever kissed me. Okay, And on that note, I 280 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: think there was kissing to be done, but not necessarily 281 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: on the lips climb stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, who 282 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: is Larry King? Well, this should be a little bit 283 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: of an indicator. Take a listen to Larry King with 284 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. One of the most difficult things about getting 285 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: older is forgetting things. And a lot of people make 286 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: have fun with you, comics have had fun with you. 287 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Is that for you frustrating to not remember something? Yes, 288 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: it's very frustrating, and yet at the same time, I 289 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: don't know whether it's all just the passage of the years. Incidentally, 290 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: you've referred to that birthday that is coming up. I 291 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: don't call them birthdays anymore. They are anniversaries of your 292 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: thirty ninth birthday, and this would be the forty first anniversary. 293 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: And you're thirty ninth. You're a kid. I just can 294 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: I give you the background of that interview? Jump in. 295 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: So that was the night that the Gulf War started, 296 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, and you know, when you know President 297 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: Reagan was president, you know, no one was looking at 298 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: cable News, to be honest with you, after they left 299 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: the White House. We had it. Larryed in a interview 300 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: with Nancy Reagan, and then Ronald Reagan wrote a book 301 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: and agreed to come on. So he's on his way in. 302 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: And that question that Larry asked, You have to understand, 303 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: this is years This is years before the Alzheimer's diagnosis 304 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: or any of the sense that there was anything going 305 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: on with President Reagan in it in a real, you know, 306 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: medical way. And he came in that night and everyone 307 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: was very nervous. His people were very nervous. We were nervous. 308 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: You know. It's you know, oh, well, he doesn't really 309 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: know about the golf war. Should you know? How much 310 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: time should we spend on it? Should we talk about it? 311 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: He walked on that set with Larry and it's like 312 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: they were looking at the same person. You see how 313 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: easy that interview was. And to ask that question again 314 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: really gutsy, Yeah, to ask a president do you feel 315 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: bad when you keep forgetting things? But the way he 316 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: said it, the way Larry framed the question, Reagan took 317 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: it and strike Carrol Bucklin and Peter Tadesk especially Um 318 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: and Bert de braw I guess this is a guest 319 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: you always wish you had take a listen to this, 320 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: joining us them up at leader Kermit the Frog, thank you, 321 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: we loove it, missus Piggy, and they are dressed appropriately. 322 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: That's right. You wore both wore braces in my honor. 323 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: That's right. We certainly did. We wanted to just because 324 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: you always wear these things. We wanted to do this 325 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: just in honor of you. And mine are pink and blue, 326 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: and yours, kermital we're sort of blue. Yeah. I wasn't 327 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: making a move for it, leads. Okay, do you like 328 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: wearing suspenders? That's particularly No, would you wear them in 329 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: my honor? Oh? Yeah, told me I had to. I mean, 330 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: Carol Buck Peter I produced, I produced that episode. Actually, yeah, 331 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: so great, so wonderful. Okay, can I tell you something, Um, 332 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: every Christmas Eve we watched the same program in it 333 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: is a Muppet Christmas with of course Kermit and Piggy. 334 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: They are stars, stars across the world, but especially to children. 335 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: How what possessed you to get Kermit and Piggy on 336 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: with Larry Well? It was funny because they were they 337 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: were promoting something. I mean, the Muppet organization was promoting something, 338 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: and I don't remember exactly what they were promoting. It 339 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: was like a MeTV special or a movie, and they 340 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: were willing to come down and do the show. And 341 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: what was really exciting was rather than do it remote 342 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: from New York, they were willing to travel to Washington 343 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: so we could do it in person and set up 344 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: the whole, the whole situation because they wanted to have 345 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: the inter connection with Larry. So Frank Oz was there 346 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: as Miss Piggy, and Steve Whitmier, who had taken over 347 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: for Jim Henson, was there. So I got to meet 348 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: like kind of childhood heroes of my own in many 349 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: ways and really see how they lived and interacted with him. 350 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: And the puppeteers, of course, are extraordinary, but Larry had 351 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: this way of talking to them like they were people 352 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: on his set because he could just do that because 353 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: he was just that good and it was it was 354 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: just extraordinary to watch because Muppet characters aren't like like 355 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: Disney characters. They think they live in the real world, 356 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. So Larry, I mean, who 357 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: lives more in the real world than Larry King? So 358 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: it cannot in goold can I jump into because you 359 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: just reminded me of this. It's Burt, I think one 360 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: of the things that Larry was also great at it, 361 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: and it was real. And when you say miss Piggy 362 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: and Kermit, he was a fan. So when he would, 363 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, talk to them, or when he would talk 364 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: to Sinatra, or when he would talk to Elizabeth Teller 365 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: or any of these people, you always got the sense 366 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: he was a real, real, real fan. And again I 367 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 1: think that was part of his appeal. There was no 368 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: sort of show business there. He was a fan. Am 369 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: I right? Oh man? Let me tell you something, Larry 370 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: king Um just even talking about it now, I feel 371 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: joy and sorrow that he is leaving about him speaking 372 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: to presidents and famous actors, singers Elizabeth till or Marlon Brando. 373 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: But he could, as I've mentioned, even make a girl 374 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: who grew up on a red dirt road with a 375 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: well dug in the backyard feel incredible. Take a listen 376 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: to this. We thought we spent tonight learning about who 377 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace is and how she got to be the 378 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: way she is. Where'd you grow up, Larry? I grew 379 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: up in Macon, Georgia. It's a very tiny town about 380 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: an hour and a half south of Atlanta. What was 381 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: want to be a lawyer? No? As a matter of fact, 382 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: I wanted to be an English teacher. I majored in 383 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: Shakespearean studies at a very tiny school in Georgia, and 384 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: that was my intent. So Carol Buckland, I know you 385 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: remember that night and I couldn't believe at the time 386 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I was sitting in a chair where presidents and famous 387 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: stars had sat. Did you know that was the very 388 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: first time ever that I revealed why I became a 389 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: lawyer and less Shakespearean studies and became a prosecutor. It 390 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: was because of Larry King. All those years I prosecuted, 391 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: I never breathed a word. Larry told Nancy told me 392 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: once upon a time, and a profile adit of you, 393 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: and I think they may have seen that, and they 394 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: knew that you had a poignant story that no one 395 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: had heard much of, but that you did it because 396 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: you related to the victims, because you had been one, 397 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: and that story just touched so many people. And I 398 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: like to say, or you'd like to say, you know, 399 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: I may have discovered you, but Larry discovered me as 400 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: well in terms of the recurring put us out there. 401 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: He was so generous with his you know, with his 402 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: praise and acknowledge, really producer. He was Caryl Blin. Do 403 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: you remember that night? Yeah, And it's as I said, 404 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: for Larry, it was about the guest and we had 405 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure Tammy will attest to this, we had 406 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: more than a few guests come off the set and 407 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: say I didn't intend to say that, but Larry made 408 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it so easy that people they go into interviews Dave 409 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: drawn lines, but Larry because and I know people call 410 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: them softball questions, but they were questions of interest that 411 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: came from a genuine place. He would ask them and 412 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: then he would step back and simply look and listen 413 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: and pay attention. Sometimes he would follow up, other times 414 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: he wouldn't follow up. He had the luxury of time 415 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: so he could go back and perhaps life little bit 416 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: of a different way. The other thing that you talked 417 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: about him being a fan, he so admired talent, and 418 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: that even people whose work maybe he didn't particularly like, 419 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: he admired people who did well, and like the Frank 420 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: Sinatra's actors, actresses, artists, I mean, fashion designers. I remember 421 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: he did an interview with Carl Logerfeld and people you 422 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't expect, but he was just so interested in what 423 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: they did and how they did it, and if I 424 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: can say for me one of the most touching things. 425 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: Larry was not a particularly religious person, spiritual person, but 426 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: he was fascinated by people of faith. His interviews with 427 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: Billy Graham. He really wanted to understand Billy Graham. How 428 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: do you reach this point where Graham was ill and 429 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: but he was at peace? And you mentioned Tammy Faye Baker. 430 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: We did an interview with her literally several a day 431 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: or two before she actually died. It was a very 432 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: painful interview to watch, but it was comfortable I think 433 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: for people because Larry let her talk about her fears, 434 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: her belief And maybe they are better political interviewers. Maybe 435 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: there are better celebrity interviews, but I don't think there's 436 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: anybody who had the range that Larry had me Back 437 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: to you, back to you that night, Did you plan 438 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: to say that, I mean, or did you just get 439 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: so comfortable, as Carol had discussed, it just came out 440 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: of your mouth. I can tell you this. I said 441 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: more that night, as Art Well knows, than I ever 442 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: had before. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, so so much 443 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: swirling in our minds about Larry King and what an 444 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: All Star panel to discuss it. Take a listen to 445 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: this superstar on Larry King. Bump bump bump, Got a 446 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: date with an Angel, You're off key, gotta be there 447 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: at seven. Got a date Angel and I'm on my 448 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: way to heaven. Got a name to beside me to 449 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: guide me. Got a Jane with an Angel and I'm 450 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: on my way to heaven. When the chapel bells ring out, 451 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: I want to make him an offer he can't refuse. 452 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: By goodbye, Ball and Brando. That was a kiss on 453 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: the lips that you just heard. You know, Bertie Brow 454 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: with me, senior executive producer Daily Blast Live, Nashally syndicated 455 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: talk show who created Sally Jesse Rafael's show, and Jerry Springer. 456 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: You know, I guess you're coming from Jerry Springer. Things 457 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: happen you don't expect, right, Oh my goodness. Yeah, and 458 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: I certainly I remember that. And I have to say, 459 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: by the way, that before I leave this show, that 460 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm flatter than you invited me with all these wonderful 461 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: producers who who did Larry King and were responsible for 462 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: what happened every night. So yes, I mean when those 463 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: things happen, but I think they happened more on Larry 464 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: because Larry made it safe. He made you feel so 465 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: damn comfortable. That's certainly a tribute to Larry. And again, 466 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: something you can't put your finger on. Either you got 467 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: it or you don't. And I think everybody to time 468 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: this right now would agree he simply had it. But 469 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: what is I think, what is it? Who is that? 470 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: Tammy or Carol Pammy? And I want to jump in 471 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: and say, because Bert, we watched your show it's every 472 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: single day, and I think you did something that we 473 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: try to replicate and I think Nancy did it too, 474 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: and that is to make people always feel like they 475 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: were in it with you. We were all part of 476 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: a club. When you tuned into the show, you were 477 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: part of it. It wasn't you know, some you know giant, 478 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: sorry Walter Cronkite, but it wasn't Walter crime Kite telling 479 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: you how to think whatever. There was an experience that 480 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: happened and you had it together and you felt like 481 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: you were part of it. Lay always brought you along. 482 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: Nancy you did the same thing. But I would say 483 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: that Sally's show was one of the first shows and Bert, 484 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: you get all credit for that. For showing how you 485 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: can make people on the TV, you know, feel like 486 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: you're there your family, right, because that's what made it works. 487 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: I think that's the it that you're talking about. Yeah, 488 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: I think I think that's part of it. And you 489 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: know it shouldn't go on said that Larry and Sally 490 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: were sort of rivals in Miami. I don't know how 491 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: many people know, right, Oh, yeah, they were. They were rivals, 492 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: and um, I always wanted to get Sally and Larry, 493 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: and I was scared to death to do it, and finally, 494 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: finally we did. I don't know if any of you 495 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: guys were there, if anybody I was there, but I 496 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: can remember when Sally did it, Honest to god, she 497 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: was scared to death, and Larry of course treated her 498 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: like a queen. He treated her like gold. You know, 499 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: your red glasses in many ways helped us get him 500 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: on TV and put him in suspenders. That it wasn't 501 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: a bad thing, that there was some sort of iconic 502 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: part of his body. It was first suggested by Sharon King, 503 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Larry's wife at the time, because Larry hunched over. You 504 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: know how radio people are, You're all wrapped around the 505 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: you know that there's giant microphones at that time, and 506 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: if we needed him to look more like you know 507 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brokaw and Brian Williams and less like you know 508 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: a radio guy who broadcasts from a boat in Miami Beach. Right, 509 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: So he said, how the suspenders, And of course it 510 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: was it looked he looked more vertical. Let's put it 511 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: that way. I always wondered about that. Go ahead, Bert, 512 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: I have to say, and I've got a jump, but 513 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: I will tell you that as I sit here in 514 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: my office, I'm looking over and the red glasses are 515 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: right next to you. I've got him by the way. 516 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, I just wonder about you're talking about the 517 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: red glasses, burn Do Brown, Thank you, Bert, friend, I 518 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: just wonder about all those suspenders. Peter Tideski former Larry 519 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: kiv Lying Larry Keen Live executive and senior producer, creator 520 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: of lk L Weekend. Peter, tell me about what a 521 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about Larry's background. Where did 522 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: he come from and he had a little brush with 523 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: the law. Well, that brush with the law is not 524 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: anything that I know about. To tell you the truth, 525 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: I know he came from a radio in Miami. He 526 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: was a Brooklyn kid who just wanted to wanted to 527 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: be on the air, and he went to Brooklyn, he 528 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: went to Miami, became a radio personality there and ultimately 529 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: Mutual broadcasting. And my great joy with Larry was when 530 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: I was in high school and I would be coming 531 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: home late from a late night teenage outing. Normal teenagers 532 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: would be listening to music, and I'd be listening to 533 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: Larry King's Mutual radio show in the middle of the 534 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: night as I was driving home or late at night, 535 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: I should say. And so I eventually go to CNN 536 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: and I would just fanboy when I would meet him 537 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: through Tammy really and all the time I was like, 538 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: this is one of the reasons I went into broadcasting, 539 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: into journalism, was because as a teenager I was listening 540 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: to Larry King, and that he segued into television and 541 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: did it so seamlessly. Was just was just joyous. And 542 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: if I may add one quick thing, we're talking about 543 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: the celebrities. Larry was such a great news man, Carol 544 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: said earlier about being a voracious reader. Two things jump 545 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: out at me. One is we did a show where 546 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: we got together. This is getting a little wonky, but 547 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: we got together Ken McGinnis of the Ulster Unionist Party 548 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: and Jerry Adams of Shinfine, the political wing of the IRA. 549 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: These two men had never met in person that I'm 550 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: aware of. They met in person in the makeup room 551 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: at Larry King Live in Washington, DC, and Larry went 552 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: on to do an hour long show with these two 553 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: men basically negotiating peace in Northern Ireland. Then you can 554 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: find them now in internet searches. There were stories in 555 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: the nineties written at the time why is this an 556 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: American television and not on British television? And we got 557 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: them to come in because of Larry and also talking 558 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: about Larry's ego, our lack there productions. Let Larry ad 559 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: lib sort of what's going on. We said, let's really 560 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: do this right. We contacted the London bureau CNN London Bureau. 561 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: We had them do it three or four minute piece, 562 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: which is the an eternity in television of really solid background. 563 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: That wasn't Larry's voice. It didn't have to be his voice, 564 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: he didn't have to record it. He let the people 565 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: who really covered the story do the story and then 566 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: he did this our long interview that was right at 567 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: the time that peace was being negotiated into Northern Ireland 568 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: and real quick. The second one was at about the 569 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: same time in history. We did a ninety minute show 570 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: that night of the NAPTA debate between al Gore and 571 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: Ross Perow, and people now talk about the same as 572 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: NAPTA Debate as though it was something from like the 573 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: League of Women Voters that every network carried. No, Larry 574 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: got those two on the air. We produced it. We 575 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: did the NAPTA debate. Larry King did the NAPTA Debate, 576 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: and we shouldn't forget he could navigate Frank Sinatra and 577 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: Audrey Hepburn and Al Gore and Ross Perot and the 578 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: warring parties in Northern Ireland. Larry KINGO and breaking knew 579 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: we all had the brilliant foot OJ's slow speed chase 580 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: on for with it two hours the highest rated two 581 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: hours on CNN that kicked off on the amazing OJ coverage, 582 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: and he would he would have on different journalists who 583 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: had oaken stories. I mean, when I got the interview 584 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: with Tom Sneddon, when he apologized on the air on 585 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: CNN for calling Michael Jackson wacko Jacko, Larry put that 586 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: right on and he was very, very kind and in 587 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: recognizing you know, the reporting. It was just an amazing 588 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: thing the way you all helped him shift gears. People 589 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: are now talking about, well he interviewed stars and this 590 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: one and that one. But this is a man, a 591 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: legend that could interview warring factions, navigate breaking news, the works. 592 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: You know. I would love to sign off myself in 593 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: honor of my friend who helped me so much, Larry King. 594 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: But let's sign off with cut number twelve. When I 595 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: started twenty five years ago at a little studio in Washington, DC, 596 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: I never thought it would ever lest this long or 597 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: come to that. So I'm going to go on do 598 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: a lot of other things. We're going to do specials 599 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: here on CNN. I'm going to be seen in other places, 600 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: do some radio work, be around baseball. So you're not 601 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: going to see me go away, but you're not going 602 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: to see me here on this set anymore. For two weeks. 603 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: They're going to be playing highlight shows. I am. I 604 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: don't know what to say except to you, my audience, 605 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: thank you, and instead of goodbye, a about solo. Okay, 606 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: so long