1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, back in the saddle again 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: with Charles W. Chuck Bryant. We share a horse, we do. 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: I have a horse side car. Actually, if it's a 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: small mule, yeah, that's attached to your horse. Yeah, and 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: I have to lean into the corners. It's more of 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: a hay cart than a side car. Okay, Back in 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: the saddle, meaning we are back from Texas and back 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: in the recording booth for the first time in two weeks. Yeah, 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: it feels nice, dude to be back in this smelly, little, 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: dimly lit room. Yeah, it's strangely at least it's not 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: like blood colored, you know. Yeah, man, that'd be weird. Um. 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: So Chuck, Okay, yes, I guess we should get started. Huh. 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: You don't have an intro? Well, I I mean I 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: was gonna use the intro. Was the intro? Go ahead? Then? 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Have you have you ever heard of a place called Atlantis? 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: I have? Are you? Are you read like the Dean 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: the Triangle? The vacation getaway. No, we're like Britney Spears 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: stayed for free for like a month when they opened 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: and try to generate. I'm sure they were packing a 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: minute after that. I think they have been. I don't know. 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't discuss the financial a state of Atlantis, 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the resort in the Bahamas. But what I can discuss 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: is Atlantis, the possibly fictitious place. Yeah, I'm gonna go 27 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: ahead and go on record as fictitious, are you well? 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: After reading this and by the way, this was awesome, 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: I had no idea about the secret surprise that's coming. 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: Which one, well, the the other place, the real place? 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Oh gotcha? Okay, which I've meant to ask you before 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: how we pronounce that? But we'll just get to that 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: and I'll let you say it first. But yeah, I'm 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: gonna say it's fictitious and based on that, Okay, I 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: think I kind of go with that too, mainly because 36 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: one of the things about Plato is, uh, he was 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: the only person ever mentioned Atlantis. Plenty of people have 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: mentioned it after him, but it was based on what 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: he said, which kind of makes you think, like, okay, 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: is this um, this is an allegory. Probably it's about wickedness. Yeah. 41 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: What was his book in to Mas Yeah, that was 42 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: the book where we first mentioned it, and it was 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: written in three sixty b C. And to Manus is 44 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: one of his dialogues, I believe. And Plato has a 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: thing where he likes to take real places, real people, 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: real events, and then just kinda use some literary license. 47 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: He's a philosopher, Okay, yeah he was. He was not 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: a documentarian of real things, right, Um. But along the 49 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: way somewhere that idea got lost, right right. So for example, 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: Sodom and Gomora. I I would wager that a lot 51 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: of people think that Sodom and Gomorrah something really happened, 52 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: and then um it was it was taken. Eventually it 53 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: was used as allegory that these people were punished by God. Um, 54 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: but really, you know, something really bad happened to him, 55 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: and somebody decided, hey, this is a great, great chance 56 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: to use this as a life lesson for everyone. So 57 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: there's a really strong possibility that Plato did the same thing, 58 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: because as he describes Atlantis, um, they they had gotten 59 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of hubristic. I guess it does mimic other things 60 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: in the Bible. That's sure it does. And um, the 61 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: great god Poseidon, who is the god of the sea 62 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: and of earthquakes, decided that he was kind of tired 63 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: of the people of Atlantis, which was the seat of 64 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: a cult that worshiped him. Right, so he, using the 65 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: techniques at hand, sent he created He's he, I guess, 66 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: created an earthquake that generated a tsunami that sunk Atlantis 67 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: beneath the waves, lost forever. Yeah. I think the quote 68 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: from the book was sank into the sea in a 69 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: single day and night of misfortune. Yeah, that's putting it 70 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: lightly so. And he placed it too, didn't he? Actually? Yeah, 71 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: where off Spain the Pillars of Hercules, which is now 72 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: called the Strait of Gibraltar. And there's people looking in 73 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Spain now, right, I think legitimate bona fide archaeologists. They're 74 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: fun Yeah. So um so Plato. I guess part of 75 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: the problem is he's he's saying, like, yes, this this 76 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: was that the Strait of Gibraltar in his parlance at 77 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: the time. He's saying, is that the Straight of Gibraltar. 78 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: The problem is is that Atlantis was this magnificent ringed city, um, 79 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: and it had like fantastic technology and architecture, and it 80 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: was just an amazingly advanced place. But he also says 81 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: that this has happened nine thousand years ago, right, right, 82 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: so nine thousand years before him, So they're aliens. Well 83 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: that was that is thanks to a guy named Ignacious Donnally. 84 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: So this guy, so Plato writes about Atlantis, goes about 85 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: his business, right, and apparently nobody back then took it seriously. 86 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: And that's like modern man were the first people to say, oh, 87 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: maybe there wasn't Atlantis. Yeah, back in the day, everyone's like, 88 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: it's just Plato going off again. Right, it was this 89 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: one guy, Ignacious Donnally. Can lay it all at his feet, jerk, 90 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: because in eighteen eighty two he published a book called 91 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: Atlantis The Antidiluvian World, and in it he's saying, Okay, 92 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: the Azores, the Zories, man, I wish i'd put that 93 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: one up, and I think that's right. Um, the islands 94 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of the Atlantic. That's actually the highest 95 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: peaks of the highest mountaintops of Atlanta tists. And wait 96 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: there's more. Uh, the incredibly advanced civilizations in Egypt and 97 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: high up in the Andes of Peru, pre inca. Um. 98 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: Those were colonies set forth by Atlantis that survived because 99 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: they weren't there for the sinking of Atlantis. So basically, um, 100 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: we have civilization to thank We have Atlantis to thank 101 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: for civilization. The problem is all this is totally unfounded, 102 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: but it just kicked off the um occultization of Atlantis. Yeah. 103 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: It's been placed everywhere from uh, South China, see the Caribbean, 104 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: the Pacific, the Indian Ocean, the Canary Islands, Antarctica, supposedly Switzerland. Yeah. 105 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: I didn't chase that one down, but I saw somewhere 106 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: that somebody said Switzerland ahead and say everywhere. Yeah, everywhere, 107 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: Atlantis is everywhere. There's um Edgar Casey, who is known 108 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: as the Sleeping Prophet of Virginia Beach, who's a psychic 109 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: he um. He said that Atlantis stretched from the Gulf 110 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: of Mexico to Spain, and that the Bermuda Triangle there 111 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: are a lot of you know, if there is mystery 112 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: in the Bermuda Triangle, it's due to Atlantis is energy crystals, 113 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I will say though. He said it would rise off 114 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Beminy and then when they discovered the Bemini Road, Everyone's 115 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: like see there, and then it's too bad Cherry's not 116 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: here because she's like I dove the Beminy Road. Yeah, guests, 117 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: producer Maddie's in the house, Hey, Matt, we didn't mention that. 118 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: Um So, once Donnelly comes along and kind of takes 119 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: up the mantle of searching for Atlantis and making it 120 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: as far out as possible, it just becomes more and 121 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: more the domain of like fringe dwellers. Right, sure, but 122 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: that is not to say that there aren't legitimate archaeologists 123 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: searching for something like Atlantis. That that doesn't mean that 124 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: there isn't something that inspired Plato, and we probably know 125 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: what that is. Actually, that's where my money is. And 126 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: now you're gonna make me say it, even though I 127 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: asked you to say it. Hilaki haliki, hiliki, haliki, haliki, Yeah, okay, 128 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: haliki spelled he like, yeah, Um, I saw some weird 129 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: pronunciation things that I didn't understand when I looked it up, 130 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: so I just figured i'd hear it from you. That 131 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: was Greek to you, it was indeed, um So, yeah, 132 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: the cats out of the bag. As far as I'm concerned, 133 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: it is hiliki. It was a super interesting story though. Um, 134 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: this was well documented by lots of people, not not 135 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: like a single source like Plato single made up so exactly. 136 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: And it was a lost Greek city. It suffered a 137 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: fate much like Atlantis supposedly did. Yeah. So Haliki was 138 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: this um very powerful city in ancient Greece on the 139 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Gulf corinth Um, very nice in that area. Yeah, yeah, 140 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: I imagine have you been? No, I want to go. Um. 141 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: It was powerful enough to have its own colonies. So 142 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I mentioned if Atlanta had colonies in like Germany, this 143 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: is very much the case for Haliki, and it was 144 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: the seat of power for a twelve city league called 145 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: the Achaian League, which is kind of like the Confederacy 146 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: in the South. Will that be like having a bar 147 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: in a different city that's like your home bar, like 148 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: you know they have like it's usually football based. There's 149 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: like a New York Jets bar Atlanta, Pittsburgh Steelers bar 150 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Maybe that the same thing. I thought it 151 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: was more like the capital of like a number of states. 152 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the same thing, but I like 153 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: that analogy. I'm just being coy. Um. So the the 154 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: a key in league now I've just realized that I 155 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: missed something. Now that's a joke. Yeah. So the the 156 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Haliki is the city or the center of the a 157 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: keen league get controlled, like the shipping around there. By 158 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: the time Plato came about, it was hundreds of years old, 159 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: already a very active port. They had their own coinage. Yeah, 160 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: and and it looked very cool too. I looked up 161 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: the coins like dolphins and Poseidon and yeah, pitch or 162 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: not pitchforks, what they call the tridents tridents, and it 163 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: was it had Poseidon on the coin because this was 164 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: like the seat of a cult of Poseidon. Yeah, just 165 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: like Atlantis exactly. And um it was had a very prominent, 166 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: well known statue of Poseidon, just like Atlantis. Right, that's right. 167 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: So the similarities are starting to mount up, they are, 168 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: and uh, they really mount in a big way in 169 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: December of three seventy three BC, when the townspeople started noticing, 170 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, all these small animals are scurring for 171 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: the hills and that's never a good sign. Because we 172 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: did talk about in another podcast how animals can sense 173 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: underground tremmors. I had to have been in how earthquakes 174 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: were Yeah, I think that's what it was. And sure enough, 175 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: earthquake came in the middle of the night on the 176 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: fifth day, and that was followed by an enormous wave 177 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: and just like that overnight, just like Atlantis, it was 178 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: submerged to the bottom of the sea. Well not the 179 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: bottom but no, and not necessarily the sea either. As 180 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: we'll see, this is getting more mysterious. So, um, so 181 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: this really happened. This is pretty Uh, it was a 182 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: pretty well known event. UM. One of the there, I 183 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: guess we should say there were no survivors, like people 184 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: from the surrounding cities got together, like um, a search party, 185 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: a rescue party, UM, that set out at dawn just 186 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: a few hours after this happened, and there was well 187 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: I think they got they walked as far as they 188 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: couldn't were like, oh yeah, well, there's now like a 189 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: sea where there used to be this, This Um city's gone. 190 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: There was no one there apparently. The only thing visible 191 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: where the tops of Um the trees in Poseidon's Sacred grove. 192 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: I would guess, all of the trees. Yeah uh. And 193 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: there were ten ships and this will come up later too, 194 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: from Sparta that were a dock there in the port 195 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: and they were gone as well, just gone, and that 196 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: will play an important part here coming up soon. Yeah. So, um, 197 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: imagine like there's a city, it's a very powerful, rich city, 198 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: and you live out in the boondocks and you just 199 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: know something happened there as an earthquake, so you go 200 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: to check on the city, and then the city's gone, 201 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's just silence, and there's ten ships that aren't 202 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: there anymore. Everything is just gone. Creepy. What was even 203 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: creepier though, is you could look down into the city 204 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: underwater and see it all there still, Yeah, including the 205 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: statue of Poseidon, which apparently still stood erect and in 206 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: place right, and local fishermen and ferryman um reported having 207 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: their nets get caught in Poseidon statue all the time, 208 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: which is kind of ironic. Yeah, but um, so you 209 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: could see leaky for hundreds of years, which is one 210 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: of the reasons why it's so well documented, because they 211 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: were it was kind of like have you heard of 212 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: than of tourism, dark tourism or death tourism, So um, 213 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: it was kind of like an early version of a 214 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: dark tourism site, like yeah, exactly, um, and you could 215 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: go check it out and travelers and writers and scholars didn't. 216 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: They documented what they saw um pretty pretty um specifically too. 217 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Like in Stadia, they said, well, here's the this is 218 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: where the city is now, this is where it was 219 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: in relation to you know this river, that river. So 220 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: like the sources are pretty pretty abundant, and they're pretty specific. 221 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of abundant and rivers and sources, look at you. Uh, 222 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: that area was was unique in that it had these 223 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: three rivers that met there bringing fresh water in. So 224 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: you've got some good freshwater, you got some good seawater 225 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: with tons of good seafood. You've got very rich land 226 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: for crops, Wh've got irrigation because we've got the freshwater. 227 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: The weather is gorgeous. So it's right here on on 228 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: the lovely seaside, and that's what made it and on 229 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: the ideal spot for people to say, hey, maybe we 230 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: should settle down here. Yeah, let's hanging out here for 231 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: a while, get fat on shrimp. Unfortunately, it's also a 232 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: bad spot because there are two fault lines that run 233 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: parallel through the area, and uh, they haven't been known 234 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: to call some major disruption over the years, like the 235 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: earthquake that destroyed Hiliki and generated the tsunami. So it's 236 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of like this whole place is like made 237 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: to produce a lost city, right, Yeah, because there's other 238 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: places around the world, um, where there's violent tectonic activity 239 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: and its coastal, so that means that it's in danger 240 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: of a tsunami. California not with tesunami, I don't think. Japan. Yeah, um, 241 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: the Malaysian tsunami two four. Um, Yeah, there's a lot 242 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: of places. But to produce a so that's that will 243 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: ruin a coastal city, right, yes, but for it to 244 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: become lost, it has to be covered up somehow, and 245 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Hiliki is in a really unique situation for this because 246 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: of those three rivers that form the Hiliki Delta where 247 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: Hiliki was situated. Right, So you've got the earthquake, you've 248 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: got the tsunami, so you have a ruined city now submerged, 249 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: and then these three rivers bring a lot of silt 250 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: to the area and so eventually Hiliki was covered up 251 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: over over the centuries. Yeah. You put it in the 252 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: article about how if you bought a house or not 253 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: bought a house, let's say, built a house along the 254 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: shore in eight nine it would be a thousand feet inland, 255 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: which imagine is quite a rub for people that build 256 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: that lovely house right on the water, because within a 257 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: century or so, it's gonna be a couple of streets 258 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: back and there's like tin jerks in front of you 259 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: that have built houses exactly. And it's kind of like 260 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: what's that game where you like leap frog? Oh yeah, 261 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: I can say monopoly where you build bigger houses than 262 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: the other guy. Oh yeah, that would have worked too. Um. 263 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: So you've got the tsunamis, you've got the river, you've 264 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: got the the silt. You also have um, the delta 265 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: itself because of this violent activity, UM is moving up there. 266 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: Finding over time it's it's rising. So you have a 267 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: rising delta which is low, like right at sea level, 268 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: but it's it's getting bigger, and silt is piling it 269 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: up and making dry ground even further jut out into 270 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: the coast. Well, what it made was a nice little 271 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: surprise for archaeologists, and I imagine archaeologists just went berserk 272 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: with this place. Yeah, they had no idea. They just 273 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: thought Hliki itself was there. They knew it was there, 274 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: and that they suspected it would be kind of like 275 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: a Pompeii, but even more. Um they considered it even 276 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: more vital to archaeology, the archaeological record than Pompeii even Well, 277 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: what they found though is, you know, Josh, but we're 278 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna spring it on you now, is six other distinct 279 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: occupied horizons besides six other ones are seven total, sixth total, 280 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: six total, five others besides Laki underneath one on top 281 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: of the other that had been settled and civilized and 282 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: wiped out and covered up and like just kind of 283 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: captured in time. That is crazy. Yeah, which one? What 284 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: were they? So? There was one from the Byzantine period, 285 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: which was pretty long. I think it ran from two 286 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: d to the fifte century UM. And then beneath that 287 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: there is a Roman ruin which is from the second 288 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: to the fourth a D. And that one even features 289 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: a Roman road, which is the road that try velers 290 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: and writers used to come look at Hiliki the ruins 291 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: um and that one also chucked. This just blows in 292 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: my mind. It's so captured in time that there's a 293 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: human skeleton a top a like a cattle skull that 294 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: like it was knocked on top of this beast and 295 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: killed like by rock and rubble and just kept there. 296 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 1: So there's skeletons are intertwined now in that nuts. So 297 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: the Roman cities on top of Hiliki than beneath Hileaky, Uh, 298 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: they found even more stuff. They found a settlement from 299 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: the Bronze Age b C. And before that they kept 300 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: digging and found uh, prehistoric Neolithic period civilization possibly as 301 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: old as twelve thousand years. I wonder if there's something 302 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: beneath that even I don't know. This makes me think 303 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: they should start digging in Los Angeles or other like 304 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: seaside retreats to see what you could find. Well, there's 305 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: a whole um. There's this whole idea, especially among atlantis hunters, 306 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: that it's extremely intuitive because of rising sea levels that 307 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: anything that was established around the last I Sage or 308 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: even at about the end of it, the sea levels 309 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: have ridged in like more than a hundred feet since then. 310 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: So any coastal cities now underwater, that's like a big, 311 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: big thing that they hunt for. Now that archaeologists are 312 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: kind of starting to try to get into is um 313 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: looking for human habitation underwater, Like there's this whole area 314 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: off of whales. I think Northern Wales, Northern Ireland, maybe 315 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: Um or Scotland. Anyway, it's called dogger Land and it's 316 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: like just the submerged area that used to be above 317 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: ground and they're they're they're finding like Neolithic settlements there 318 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: and that cool. Well, and you know, the earth has 319 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: changed so much over the course of its existence that 320 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: what's here didn't used to be here, and what was 321 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: there was something else, and so yeah, I think it's 322 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: there's no telling what's down there, but that that idea 323 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: and the fact that you can find neolithic settlements under 324 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: water supports, ironically the notion that there could be something 325 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: like Atlantis that's lost somewhere Heliki. Right. So yeah, so 326 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: these guys they found this this um area, and once 327 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: they found Hiliki, it all started to They just it 328 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: was like jack pot, jackpot, jackpot. But finding Hiliki itself, 329 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: um proved a little more difficult than they thought, especially 330 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: considering all the documentation they had. Yeah, they knew supposedly 331 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: knew where it was, quote unquote like it's not like 332 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: they were searching for a needle in a haystack. They 333 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: were searching for like, uh, like a pool qu in 334 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: a haystack, you know. Uh. So in the late eighties 335 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: a couple of Cornell professors started looking for it for 336 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: real z s and uh They had a little bit 337 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: of misinterpretation, um for the word for the translation for 338 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: body of water, and lucky enough, they had a Greek 339 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: woman with them. Well she's one of the Cornelli professors. 340 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: Oh she was. Yeah. Well then lucky that she was Greek, 341 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: Well yeah, because she translates. She was like, wait a minute, 342 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: She's like, it may not be in the Gulf after all, 343 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: it maybe inland. And they were like, yeah, everybody had 344 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: been thinking that this was the Gulf had swallowed him, 345 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: swallowed up the city, which would makes sense, right. It 346 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: turns out it was an inland lagoon that did. So. 347 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: I think it was very much akin to the you know, 348 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: the Noah's Ark episode we just did. Yeah, um, what 349 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: is it? The Dead Sea? I think where they think 350 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: that the Dead Sea used to be freshwater. Now it's 351 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: salt water, because that's evidence of the flood happening. And 352 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: probably what they think is the Mediterranean overwhelmed the straight 353 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember what's straight it was. You're searching the reaches. Yeah, anyway, 354 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: I think give as much the same way, like the 355 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: city used to be around a lagoon, and then the 356 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: lagoon got a lot bigger, thus swallowing the city. Right, 357 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: So they looked under land, and all of a sudden 358 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: they had to ditch their scuba gear for shovels, and 359 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: they found the first Roman city. The first ruins were like, 360 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: wait a minute, twelve feet just twelve feet below the land, 361 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: which doesn't seem like that far at all. No, it's 362 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: not because the Roman rumors were like four or five ft. Yeah, 363 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that someone would have accidentally found it 364 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: before that even you know, well that kicked it off. 365 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: There was a German archaeologists who was traveling in the 366 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: area and found a Hliky coin with poseidon on and 367 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: was like, holy cow, this is significant. So I think 368 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: that's kind of how it started. Yeah, so they found 369 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: have found a lot of stuff since then, um buildings, 370 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: industrial buildings, kilns, looms, intersecting streets. Yeah, with buildings along 371 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: these streets like a real city. Yeah. What else? The coins, 372 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: of course, um jugs, jugs with their original contents, and 373 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: those are from the Bronze Age. They found a storehouse 374 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: of like jugs of different sizes and types from the 375 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: Bronze Age, so we're talking like five thousand years old. 376 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: They don't have any idea about these civilizations, but this 377 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: was contemporary to like ancient Troy, which itself was considered 378 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: a legendary city until hiring Schleiman found it. Um. So 379 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: they just finding this stuff is amazingly awesome because and 380 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: there's more, yeah, there is supposedly, yes, So they think 381 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: that they found the outskirts of Hliki and that they 382 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: there's a lot more left, and that it's intact. Oh, 383 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: they're not actually at Hiliki yet. No, they're in Hiliki, 384 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: but they're not in the city center. They don't, so 385 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: they're just out in the outskirts. That's what they think. Yeah. Um. 386 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: And when they were looking for Hiliki out in the gulf, 387 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: they found something cool too, didn't they. I don't think 388 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: I know this, you do know it. They found a 389 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: sea wall acent sea walls of the city. And they 390 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: also found what they think are the ten Spartan ship. 391 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. I thought you were going to 392 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: say the Statue of Poseidon. That would be like, well, 393 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: they'll find an eventually, the motherload. If they found that 394 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: things still standing upright under the earth. So they keep following. 395 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: They started by following the Roman road, so they're basically 396 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: they're unearthing like imagine this, dude. They're unearthing like three 397 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: lost cities at once. Isn't that insane? Do you know? What? 398 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Like an archaeological treasure trove that is, So they're unearthing them. 399 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: And as long as they don't intersect, right, as long 400 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: as like the Roman town isn't built directly over the 401 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: statue of Poseidon to where getting to Poseidon would undermine 402 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: the Roman town, um, then they should be able to 403 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: get at all. And they're gonna be doing They will 404 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: excavate this for decades. So this has been ongoing since 405 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: the late eighties. Well no, they really started uncovering stuff 406 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: in like two thousand, but they started in so awesome, 407 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: very cool. So that's a heliki. So of course, Chuck, 408 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: this doesn't mean that anybody has stopped searching for Atlantis. 409 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: Like big archaeologist in Spain. Yeah, he's looking inland though, 410 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: which comes from this theory, so maybe he's on this one. 411 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: It's possible he's gonna start digging up in Barcelona and 412 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: people are gonna see what are you doing, Yeah, drink 413 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: some wine. So, uh, you were saying that you think 414 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: that Plato was inspired by Hliki. I think there's substantial 415 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: evidence in what we said. But also keep in mind 416 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: Laki happened in three seventy three. Plato wrote his book 417 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: in three sixty, thirteen years later, and he lived in 418 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the area. This is a pretty well known catastrophe. So 419 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: I think you're probably right. But we would not have 420 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: had the awesome TV show Man from Atlantis had it 421 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: not been for Plato. No, I guess that's true. Did 422 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: you watch that? No, that was a little before your time. 423 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: And there's an awesome um HP Lovecraft short story about 424 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: a German U boat that ends up in Atlantis. It's awesome. 425 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: I tried to find YouTube stuff of Man from Atlantis 426 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: and there there's plenty out there. You know, he had 427 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: the webbed hands when I was a kid, had webbed 428 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: hands and feet. It's not Prince Nemore, is it the 429 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: submariner Prince of Nemore, Nemo, No Prince, He's a Marvel 430 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: comic guy. No, no, no, it was man. It was 431 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: a schlocky It ran for like one year. Was like, yeah, 432 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: he was he had super He had superhuman strength and 433 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: uh could breathe underwater, had gills, and he had webbed 434 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: feet in hands and um, I think like some government 435 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: agency snapped him up to do like investigative undersea work 436 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: for them. Oh, I know you're talking about Welcome Back Cotter. 437 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: This is a dude from from Dallas. Uh? Patrick, what's 438 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: his face? Patrick Ewing? Patrick Guffy? You think? And jail 439 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: for you? Patrick giving the basketball player? Right, Patrick Duffy? Yeah, yeah, Uh, 440 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: this is good stuff. I have never heard of that show. Yeah, 441 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: it was only around for one year. I think. Boy, 442 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: I was into it when I was like seven. Good stuff. 443 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: You had webbed hands. Yeah, it got me into Plato, 444 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: but you hadn't been eating it for years. Funny guy. 445 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: All right, So that's it. You got anything else? I 446 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: thank you for doing this one with it was awesome. 447 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for opening my eyes to coolness. Anytime. If 448 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: you want to know more about Hliki, you should search 449 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: for was there a real Atlantis? By typing that into 450 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: the search bar at how stuff works dot com. And 451 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: I said that, which means it's time for a listener. Man. 452 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: That's right, Josh. Remember when we did a little TV 453 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: pilot recently. UM, we tried to get these bookends onto 454 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: the show. They arrived a little late. We weren't able to. 455 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: But I want to tell everyone about this project, because 456 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: that sounds very cryptic, uh, this from my Hey, guys, 457 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: have been a big fan for a couple of years, UM, 458 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: and I especially like that some of your causes you 459 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: have taken on and considered and done podcast about them, 460 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: Kiva and the Cooperative for Education in particular. So our 461 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: Guatemala podcast gave him an idea for a Facebook fundraising 462 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: idea to raise awareness for co op or buddies, Cooperative 463 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: for Education Cincinnati to do the awesome textbook programs and 464 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: uh computer Center Labs and Guatemala. And he proposed to 465 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: them and they said, hey, yeah, let's do this. So 466 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: his idea was to create quote unquote celebrity book ends 467 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: with just this basic idea, take an ordinary set of 468 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: book ends, although they are pretty fancy looking, I gotta admit, uh, 469 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: and make them super famous uh pop culture icons through 470 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: social media to you and then sell them for a 471 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: million bucks and give it all the co ED. So 472 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: that's the plan. It's a good plan. I don't know 473 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: if we added anything to that. We added at least 474 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: okay good. Um, he says, I know it sounds crazy, 475 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: but crazy is usually what it takes to get people 476 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: to notice things. The rational thinking behind this is that 477 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: to get famous, all you need to have are a 478 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: ton of people believing that you're famous. You know. Yeah, 479 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean what else is celebrity? Yeah exactly. Uh So 480 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to drum up celebrity for these book ends 481 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: to raise awareness. They have sent them around the world 482 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: to meet people and to be on TV shows and 483 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: in movies. Uh. They're documenting this on Facebook, the travels 484 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: of these book ends, uh, in Twitter and blogs for 485 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: people to follow. And our big audacious goal is to 486 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: get as many Facebook fans as Kim Kardashian. She has 487 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: nine million fans. Can you believe them? Yes? Wow? Uh 488 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: So what we're hoping for your listeners is that they 489 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: will like the idea enough to want to help. All 490 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: you have to do it can be as simple as 491 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: going to the Facebook page, Uh, follow you on Twitter 492 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: the celebrity book ins that is, tweet about us, blog 493 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: about us, tell your friends to like us, and hook 494 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: us up with any celebrity friends that you might have. Um. 495 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: They have been in the hands of Danny de Vito. Uh, 496 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: Matt burning your of the National. I didn't know how 497 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: to pronounce that, but I do love The National, and 498 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: I believe I saw Jeff Bridges holding these things, did 499 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: you really? Yeah? And then before us. Yeah, So we 500 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: actually got a little DeVito Bridges stank on our hands 501 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: unless they clean these things. And they sent it to 502 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: us originally to get it in our cubicles on the 503 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: TV pilot, but they arrived a little late and we 504 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: weren't able to. So we just did some pictures and 505 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: maybe on down the road, if we do any more 506 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: TV stuff, we can get them on television and do 507 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: our part to help raise awareness. So uh, Facebook dot com, 508 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: slash Celebrity Bookends or Twitter at Celebrity book INDs, or 509 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: send an email to Celebrity book INDs at Gmail, and 510 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: that raises awareness to eventually sell these things to Danny 511 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: de Vito to raise money for God for a million bucks. Well, 512 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: I certainly don't have a million books. Well, we also 513 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: have our own Twitter handle and you can get in 514 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: touch with us too. While you're talking to Celebrity Bookends, 515 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: you can tweet to us whatever you want. 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