1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: What is up straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, September twelfth. Oh, we got a good 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: one today. We got a good one. NFL guest Bernie Fratto, 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio loves gambling. Good gambler, talk about Thursday 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Night football. Talk about almost every game on the card 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: this weekend. It's a tough weekend in the NFL. I 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: like a lot and then you circle back and you're like, ooh, 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: I don't know about that one, So we'll dig into 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: all of it. Not a lot happened otherwise in sports. 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm not out here given fantasy advice guys, but I'll 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: give it, give out a free piece of advice just 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: because I got to give it to my brother first, 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: and after that then I can. I don't mind going 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: wide with stuff. So he's in a fourteen team league 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: and he's like, man, I can not find a running 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: back anywhere. There's literally nobody. It's impossible. And I remember 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: Friday Night Packers Eagles. The backup in Green Bay was spicy. 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: He was like number seven. I don't know who he was. 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this guy's got some pop. He 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: only had a handful of carries, but he looked good. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: His name is Emmanuel Wilson and he was available in 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: my brother's fourteen team league, so he grabbed him. And 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: I'm giving you that as a name right now. Why 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: would I give that out? Well, first of all, you know, 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: with this Jordan Love injury, by the way, it's not 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: certain that Jordan Love's gonna be out, Like maybe the 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: Packers are doing some gamesmanship, but they're giving the impression that, like, 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: he hasn't been declared out yet this week, even though 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: they said three to six. If it's Malik Willis, they're 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: not gonna risk him throwing the football. They're just not 32 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: even against a sad sack cold secondary. They're gonna run, run, run, 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: So it'd be a heavy dose of Josh Jacobs, and 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Wilson's gonna get his chances. 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: Now. 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs has an injury history, he runs hard, and 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: I think Wilson is a valuable backup if you're in 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: a twelve or fourteen team league, he's worth the get. 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: If you're in a ten team league, like, there's gonna 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: be other better guys than him, who are I don't know, 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: probably starting getting fifteen carries. But that's what I do here. 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: I like to help people in other news and I 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: don't want to get into politics, guys, I don't, but 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: I almost People are freaking out because obviously Taylor Swift 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: after the debate on Tuesday, wed on her Instagram and 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: indorsed Kamala Harris. And you know, she gets fifty million 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: likes or whatever, but one like stood out and it 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: made its way around. Now that like was from Caitlin Clark. 49 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: So what did the media do on Wednesday? Caitlin, Hey, 50 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: we saw you endorsed Kamala Harris, and Caitlyn's like, well, 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: I didn't totally do that, but you guys should go 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: out there and vote like it's important. Voting is important 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: in a democracy. And now everybody's saying, oh, look at 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: the comments on Kaitlin Clark's latest post. All these people 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: that you used to and again people air quotes used 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: to be her fans are now being like, oh, Caitlyn, 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm done with you. I defended you and people were 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: beating you up online and now that you're endorsing democrats, 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: just go f off and they're losing their minds. So 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: just a couple things, and again, I don't really care 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: about politics. It's Caitlin Clark, so I'm gonna wedge just 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: in there. So Number one, believe none of what you 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: see and half of what you read. Or maybe I 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: got that backwards, half of what you see and none 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: of what you hear or read. Yeah, it's one of 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: those two either way. The bottom line is I would 67 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: not be surprised if half of these angry responses are bots. Okay, 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: I am firmly believed. You guys don't have no idea 69 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: how many times people will reply to a tweet of 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: mine or a post or whatever and it just reads, 71 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, there's no way this is an actual human. 72 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Then you click on their profile and it's very suss like, 73 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, absolutely has to be fake. This has 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: to be a bot. And I get that all the time, 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: and I'm almost certain that it's a cottage industry. Hey, 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: let's try to build divisiveness and argue, and then you 77 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: get roped into arguing with people who aren't even humans. 78 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: It's like bots just trying to further divide our country. 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: Keep you engaged on the app, fighting with people, and 80 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's just not worth my time. So I 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: don't personally engage, and obviously Kitlin Clark doesn't. But I 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: find it hard to believe that someone is like a 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: big Kaitlin Clark fan or a big Taylor Swift fan, 84 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, because of their political belief 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: they're out. I'm done, I'm done, I'm not supporting, I'm 86 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: not following you. I just find that hard to believe. 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: You guys have no I'm friends with people who, when 88 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: they see a post of mine are instantly going the 89 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 2: opposite way, like, oh my gosh, Joe Biden do crazy, 90 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's the worst, blah blah blah, and like, I mean, 91 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: they'll text this to be and I don't care, Like 92 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: we're all everybody's different. I don't want I don't want 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: to surround myself with only sick of fans, you know. 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: I think that's stupid. I want nothing to do with that. 95 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: I like now, it's these are people I know and 96 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: talk to and have hung out with, spend time with whatever. 97 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: Of course, I don't expect everybody I know to line 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: up with all my beliefs, you know. I mean, there's 99 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: something that are pretty hard and fast we've got to 100 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: protect kids in schools. Like let's you know, as a 101 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: gun owner, I can firmly say I'm fine with no 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: ar fifteens being out there. I can say that. But 103 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: like just this political stuff, folks, I cannot wait for 104 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: this crap to be over. And you know, even when 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: it ends, it's not gonna be over because if one 106 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: side wins, the other side ain't gonna accept it, and 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm probably is just going one way. I can't say 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris losing it being like I refuse and the 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: other side's gonna be like, no, there's no way we lost. 110 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: So we're inside. Looks like inside eight weeks to go 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: and it can't get here fast enough anyways. Good Thursday 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: night football game. Great interview to get you excited. Here's 113 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: my main man, Fox Sports Radio, Bernie Fratto. 114 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 115 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 116 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: listen live. You know, a guy Jason likes to think 118 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. 119 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want. 120 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 121 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 122 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: guy who knows another guy. 123 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. The man, the myth, 124 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: the legend, Fox Sports Radio's finest, one of the best 125 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: gamblers in the industry. A lot of people like to 126 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: cover gambling and talk about He's actually good, Bernie Frato, 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. How you doing, Bernie Jason? 128 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: Good to be with you. This has become kind of tradition. 129 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: First week in the NFL the last four years, and 130 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: I have to start by taking my medicine. This is 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: the year Divisional dogs with one and two. There were 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: only three. It's been money since twenty fourteen. Seventy six percent. 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: Thank you Raiders. Uh you turned the ball over three times. 134 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: If you lose the turnover battle, Jason in the National 135 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: Football League by a marginal three, your chances of winning 136 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: that game are eight point six percent. So one or 137 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: two there and oh, by the way, under the hashtags 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: you want to be a gambler, I also said Tennessee 139 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: plus four. 140 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: Oh happened there. 141 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: So that's that was one of those one in a 142 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: million type games. Just a brutal beat. I'm trying to 143 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: think of the other divisional match of the Colts covered. 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: The Carolina. They wrote Carolina on a stickhorse. 145 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: That was just a bad that was that was terrible 146 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: for me. I want with three to one and one 147 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: in the contest with the loss being the Panthers and 148 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: the frigging Broncos coming in the back door bon Nicks. 149 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: Goodness gracious, Yes. 150 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: That was rare. You know. It was a really chalky 151 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: Week one. 152 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: Uh it was I think favorite one twelve three. 153 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: It went thirteen and three, thirteen and three and ten 154 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: and seven against the number. So you can't beat that. 155 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: But we're under week two, Bernie. We don't wallow, we 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: don't thump our chest too much. Maybe have a five 157 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: and zero happened. Let's dig into tonight's game. Is Buffalo 158 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: at Miami. Josh Allen has dominated the Dolphins throughout his career, 159 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: but at the same time, Tua has struggled mightily against Buffalo. 160 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: This one's a little weird. You know that that heat 161 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: won't be an issue because it's a night game, so 162 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: you can't play the whole Yeah, the Bills will be 163 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: in the sun all day for the one pm kickoff, 164 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: whereas the Dolphins are in the shade. None of that 165 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: applies here. I kind of like Miami. I don't know 166 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: if I'm getting sucked into a trap here. I didn't 167 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: think Miami was particularly great last week. They were kind 168 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: of shot themselves in the foot a lot moved the 169 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: football well, but I lean to Miami here under a 170 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: field goal. How about you? 171 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: Well, you certainly have to on a short way travel game. 172 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: Miami's a a good club. They had the big distraction 173 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: last week. As Nolan Ryan once said, the sign of 174 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: a great team is you don't have your best stuff 175 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 4: and you win anyway. 176 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: So they got the w. Buffalo I think. 177 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: Is going to be a lot better than people realize. However, 178 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: i'd just stay away from me. I'm can't. I'm having 179 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 4: trouble with this line. If I do anything, I might 180 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: have it as part of a two team teaser. As 181 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: long as the line's two and a half. 182 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: Is that the line you saw, Jason. 183 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm seeing two two and a half. Yeah, depending on 184 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: where you're showing. 185 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: So you get that up above the key numbers of three, four, six, 186 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: and seven, and on an divisual game, standalone game on 187 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: a Thursday night, and I think you get yourself a winner. 188 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: And there are a couple couple of teams you could parlay. 189 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 4: You could tease that with, but that'd be the most 190 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: I would do there. 191 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. You don't have to bet every game 192 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: on the board, right, you find it wherever you can. 193 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: I just your logic is extremely sound. I think a 194 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: teaser makes sense. Now, there's a lot of great teaser legs. 195 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: This could be a good teaser week. 196 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: Right, Bernie, as long as you followed in key rules. 197 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: You know you want to tease up through three, four, six, 198 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: and seven. Where the key number like the Lion's three, 199 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 4: that doesn't qualify because you're already at three. 200 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: If the Lions at seven, that doesn't qualify. 201 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: You want to be minus one and a half, minus 202 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: two and a half as the dog teased up, or 203 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: eight and a half on down. 204 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: You get the picture. 205 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: Whether you do a six point teaser, six and a 206 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: half or seven point teaser, please don't tease totals. 207 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: People don't do that. 208 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: Well, I did that last weekame they hit, but we've 209 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: all done it. 210 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: It's it's enticing. 211 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of teasers in general because you 212 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: need two outcomes and anything can happen. 213 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: In the National Football League, as we see. 214 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 4: But I think the large issue is you allow the 215 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 4: math to work for you when you do it this way. 216 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: Never teas through zero. I know you can look at 217 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: it and say, wow, let's give Buffalo, let's check that. 218 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 4: Let's tease through zero. Give Miami three and a half 219 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: at home. Okay, don't do that. Don't because you're not 220 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: allowing the math to work for you. So that'd be 221 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: the only thing I do in that game. 222 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: It's a teaser. 223 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Let's go to Let's go to Sunday, Bernie, where the 224 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: Lions Tampa game is fascinating. I believe this was minus 225 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: three to three and a half on the look at it, 226 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: or I might be getting that comput And now it's seven. 227 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: Now Tampa has a cluster injury in the secondary winfield, 228 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: their best safety is out. We already saw Jadon Daniels 229 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: have some success that we didn't throw the ball down 230 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: the field. The rookie quarterback dump offs like. The Tampa 231 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: defense is not great by any stretch, and they're beat 232 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: up and they're going to Detroit. But I don't know. 233 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: I looked at that Lion secondary and they got the 234 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: kid who used to be in Tampa at corner and 235 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: a rookie and Baker he's got some weapons there. This 236 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: is an interesting handicap. I leaned toward Lions at six 237 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: and a half, but at seven it's probably Tampa. 238 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, not to break up the party, I've already grabbed 239 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: Tampa plus seven. It's actually one of my best bets. 240 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 4: It's not my best and I'll explain why. I give 241 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: you three reasons. Let's not forget the Lions played a 242 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: pretty tough overtime game on Sunday night. And whenever an 243 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 4: NFL team is coming off an overtime game and they 244 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 4: have technically less than seven days rest, I know we're 245 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 4: splitting here. Is here because the game wasn't on money, 246 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 4: but it was on Sunday. It was on Sunday Night. 247 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: Those teams coming off an overtime game only cover forty 248 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: one percent of the time the following week. 249 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: And you brought up a great point. 250 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: I think you brought up on Colin Show about three 251 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: dbs that went out for Tampa Bay Sunday. That's something 252 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: you have to pay attention to. But Jason, I think 253 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: that's baked into the kid. That seven points in week 254 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: two in a game like this, that's a lot of points. 255 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 4: And I'll tell you why Tampa Bay's offense looks superb. 256 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: They got a new offensive coordinator named Lean colmb who 257 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: actually spent some time with the Rams. His ability to 258 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: create rob trees with screen passes and deep routs and 259 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: put his playmakers in position to make big plays was fabulous. 260 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: Him and Baker Mayfield are really simpatical, and they moved 261 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: the ball at will. They put up thirty seven points. 262 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: Tom Brady even admitted you, as I blewed, I should 263 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: have drafted Baker Mayfield as my fantasy league quarterback. 264 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 3: I think you're for a big year. 265 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: So to your point about defenses, let's look to the 266 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: offensive side of the ball. Tampa Bay is gonna get 267 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 4: their points. I believe that, and so that backdoor number 268 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: of days open. I'm not going to say they're a 269 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: live dog, but if that game ended up, you know, 270 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: thirty four to twenty eight something along those nines, it 271 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me. On the flip side of the coin, 272 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: this year did noted very small sample size. The Lions 273 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: had seventy four defensive plays, or check that the Rams 274 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: had seventy four offensive plays. After Week one, the Lions 275 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 4: are twenty ninth in the league and yards per play, 276 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: so they gave up some plays as well. I think 277 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: you got perfect conditions in the dome Baker Mayfield and 278 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: Liam Cohen simpatico. He's got multiple weapons weapons. Tampa Bay 279 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 4: wasn't playoff team last year. Coincidentally, they lounched the Lions 280 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, Yeah, to thirty one to twenty three, 281 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: and so I think you're going to see a shootout 282 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: going both ways. And whenever a team can put up 283 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: thirty points, it's hard to give him seven. 284 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: So the line in that one was six and a 285 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: half the playoff game, and the lines were up fourteen 286 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: with five minutes left. The Bucks scorer went for two 287 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: and failed. Otherwise everybody on the Lions lost. So, like 288 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: you're saying, background they would. 289 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: Have they would have covered in the final was thirty 290 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: one twenty three. Memories here. 291 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had that two point for Version Mono, 292 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: we'd have been thirty one twenty five. I think this 293 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay team is sneaky good, Jason. I think they 294 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: are going to be a lot better than people realize 295 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 4: because their offense will be prolific. And you're you're a 296 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: guy that does a lot of research research. Liam Cohen, 297 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: he's an offensive teas. He was Ashley the offensive coordinator 298 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: for the Rams a year after Kevin O'Connell left. 299 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: I think he was at Kentucky maybe in college football. 300 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: Was you got her. 301 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: Nailed it when you remember all those prolific offenses with 302 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: all those guys they in the ball around, his rob. 303 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: Trees, his concepts, his personal groupings. 304 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: He's really clever at getting athletes and playmakers into space so. 305 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: They can make plays. 306 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: So that Detroit Tampa playoff game, So Tampa had four 307 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: hundred plus yards of offense, interception led to a field goal, 308 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: and they actually got the ball back at the end 309 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: of the game down eight, and then Baker threw a 310 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: pick to end the game. Right, But it looked like 311 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: there was a world they could have not only tied 312 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: it up and forced overtime. But like they can hang, 313 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: you're probably onto something. I just the cluster injury is 314 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: really scary. And by the way, Jamison Williams looks like 315 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: a different guy, doesn't he. 316 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: Well, they've had high hopes for him. 317 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: I mean, this guy is he's just right below Xavier 318 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: Worthy in terms of his ability to run a little 319 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: immature had the ACL coming out of Obama took a 320 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: little longer to mend, and Heel had the I'll say 321 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: it in there quotes the gambling situation outside the Allen Park. 322 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: But they're going to use this guy and get him 323 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 4: in places. Even Aman Saint Brown didn't have much of 324 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: a game, so Loves didn't have their best game either, Right, But. 325 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: The NFL, you kind of look every week is an 326 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: independent trial. I don't. 327 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: I don't think things carry over. I think you have 328 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: to take each each game as an independent trial. I 329 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: think offensively is the reason I am leaning Tampa Bay 330 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: or already fired on Tampa Bay. And when you consider 331 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: what you said about their cluster injuries, you're not wrong. 332 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 4: But I think that's baked into the cake. If we 333 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: were looking at a four and a half point line, 334 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: I think you look across the board this year, I 335 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: don't think you'll see Tampa Bay getting seven. 336 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: All you, Jason, this would be the only time we get. 337 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: Mayamis Now it's a good point. Now I'm looking at 338 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: the regular season matchup, and I looked at it because 339 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: I had Tampa Bay like an idiot in that one. 340 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: I thought Detroit favorite on the road with insanity and 341 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay got destroyed. It was twenty and six Amara 342 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: Saint Brown had like twelve for a buck, twenty four. 343 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that when it was outdoors, 344 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: but yeah, I do remember. We'll see, we'll see. Uh, 345 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: that's a tough one for me. I just don't like 346 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: the six and a half seven line number because, like 347 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: you said, coming in the back door down thirteen and 348 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna get screwed. So there's a major concern there. 349 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: Can we go to minor Jets for a moment, I'm 350 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: curious a your thoughts on the San Frame game, and 351 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: then be the quick turnaround travel to Tennessee, which actually 352 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: looked pretty damn good defensively with sneed leading away. 353 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give the Jets a bit of a 354 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: hall pass. One of the things I look for. 355 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: A year to year, Jason, is what I call the 356 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: continuity between the GM coach quarterback, and you have that 357 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: in San Francisco and Spades. This is done near Carmen 358 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: and Paul see Joe Montana, Jerry Rice right on down 359 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 4: the line. Okay, so rock Party in that system is 360 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 4: so proficient. Now he's on time he's on target. It's 361 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: a my god. These guys have played together. They got 362 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: athletes on both sides of the ball. The Jets were 363 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: going into a complete Hornets nest. Rogers hadn't played in 364 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: two years. That offense looked like a drunk run across 365 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: an icy street. They couldn't do anything. Give San Francisco credit. 366 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: That was a bear trap game. The Jets were never 367 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: gonna win. The line was bad. I liked the Jets. 368 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: I didn't bet it. I was too scared. Actually had 369 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: the first half hundred lost on the field goal. Had 370 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: an okay week not but I could have had a 371 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: big week, right. But the point of the matter is 372 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 4: I will give the Jets a hall pass. But I 373 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: don't think you're going to see the Jets look for 374 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 4: real until October. So back to the games, well, not 375 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: in this man's NFL. If they can go, look, they 376 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: won seven games last year with very moreribun quarterback play. 377 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: They can win if they're Rogers starts sixteen games, fifteen sixteen, 378 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: seventeen games, I think they're gonna. 379 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: Win nine or ten games. 380 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: Rob that defense is too good and the Niners were 381 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: just too good. So what we saw was unfair, and 382 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 4: the way the Niners had their way with the Jets defense, 383 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: and the way the Jets offense really couldn't do anything 384 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: against the group that has been together for years and 385 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 4: they're the defending Super Bowl runner up team, right And 386 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: you pointed out to Travel, you can't put poo that either. 387 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to beat Tennessee Sunday. It's not a game 388 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get involved in at all. I got to see 389 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: a lot more on the Jets. 390 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: So I was It's interesting. I talked to Mark Sanchez, 391 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: who announced the Titans Bears game, and he said Snead 392 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 2: was dominant, jamming at the line of scrimmage, super physical 393 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: as we expect. So what's gonna happen if Sneid follows 394 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson around and Garrett Wilson's jam the Jets looked 395 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: very pedestrian, as I'm sure you would agree, Bernie. Outside 396 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: of Garrett Wilson. Sure, Ellen's aard caught a touchdown pass 397 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: and he wants to looked in. But you can't ride 398 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: Alan Lazard to victory, and then it becomes okay, can 399 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: reach Hall run against his tough front four. I don't 400 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: know the Bears couldn't really do much. And then all 401 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: of a sudden you're like, Okay, well the defense, but 402 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: sure is hell better produced here because you know Will 403 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: Levis stinks. And now you're looking at I think the 404 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: angle is the under. I'm seeing forty one and a half. 405 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: I don't see the Jets opening it can here unless 406 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: you Knowles Levis has a couple of pick sixes or something. 407 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: Well, for my money, the Jets are you always have 408 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: to look under because if you notice how they prosecute 409 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: their offense, they're very deliberate. They don't snap the ball 410 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: with fifteen seconds to go on on the time clock. 411 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: They run it down to two three. They want they're 412 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: going to be a run first team. I believe they'll 413 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: go in there and try to play ball, control field position. 414 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: I like, you know, you open Mirus or something. I 415 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: got to take a look at that under. That's a 416 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: smart play. You also made another great point, Robert. It's 417 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: not exactly like Aaron Rodgers has an embarrassment of riches. 418 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: Of plea people he can go to. 419 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: And you got to be scared to death because Brece 420 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 4: Hall is like their bell cow, and he even looked good. 421 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: And if he gets hurt. They're a really big trouble. 422 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: So I think it's more of a situation where it's 423 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 4: going to take time for this group to gel. They'll 424 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 4: eventually play complimentary football, nine to ten win team. Can 425 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: they get into the playoffs? Absolutely, they can get into 426 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 4: the playoffs now this stuff to do it, But I 427 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: think they can. Don't read too much into the early 428 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: part of the season. And as long as you got 429 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 4: the Will Levis factor, what in the world was he 430 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: thinking on that pass last Sunday. 431 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: Man, that's a great question. 432 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: Video Nuns, you the Picky rings some money and you 433 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: had to do something stupid? 434 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: Do you play Mickey the Dunce? I'm joking. I'm joking, Jason, 435 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: you give my wacky y that's funny. 436 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I get it. Let's move. It's Seattle. First of all, 437 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: every game this weekend feels like it's clustered around three 438 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 2: or seven and I hate that. But Seattle minus three 439 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: and a half at New England, Bernie at first blush, 440 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, Seattle's a better team, But but what 441 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: if they're not able to run? The Bengals couldn't? Then 442 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: do you trust Gino smith Road laying laying over a 443 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: field goal. And again I'm not in on the Patriots. 444 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: I think they're awful, but I just I couldn't respect 445 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: myself in the morning if I bet Gino Smith is 446 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: more than a field goal favorite on the road. And 447 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: then he got kicked in his teeth and then the 448 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 2: Patriots start to it. 449 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 4: Oh, you know, well, I never like laying points on 450 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: the road in the NFL as a general rule. I'll 451 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: do it, I'll do it. I think that you know, 452 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: the Niners will probably win and cover. And Carolina's catching 453 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 4: six against the Chargers. I don't know how you make 454 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 4: a case for Carolina. But to your point, New England 455 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: looked very buttoned up to me, they didn't turn the 456 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: ball over, not a lot of penalties. I mean, they 457 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 4: played mistake free football. There's a lot to be said 458 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 4: for that. They can ugly up a game. I think 459 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: the message that Jared Mayo is delivering, you know, more 460 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: games are lost, not one is gotten through. I was 461 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 4: not impressed with yet, and I thought they kind of 462 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: escaped against them for twenty six to twenty. It didn't 463 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 4: look good to me. And you're right about Smith, he 464 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 4: doesn't look good to me. That's an on ball line. 465 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 4: It's always based on matt Power ratings, always based on 466 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: yards allowed, yards game first down, so all that type 467 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 4: of stuff. But here's the deal. The thing to watch 468 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: in that game with Gino Smith. What's he gonna do 469 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: on third down? What's you gonna do on the reds? 470 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 4: And what's you going in the fourth quarter? One thing 471 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 4: to go on and win a game, you gotta win by 472 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: a margin. There's no way I lay the wood in 473 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 4: that game. There's no way. That'll probably be one of 474 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: the least bet games in the league this year, our 475 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: league this week. But it's one of those ugly finder 476 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 4: games that you look on the radar and say, man, 477 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: that was why didn't I see that one coming? 478 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: As opposed to the big you know, the Marquee games. Right. 479 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 480 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 481 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 482 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: listen live. 483 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: Browns at Jacksonville. I've circled this one. I took a 484 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: nibble of Browns plus three and a half. I know 485 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: they looked awful. I don't think they're that bad. I 486 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: think Stefanski is very good and I do believe that, 487 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: you know, Deshaun Watson has if he's hit rock bottom 488 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: and he can, you know, get through this week where 489 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: he's being accused of more stuff from I don't know, 490 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: three four years ago. I think there's a world where 491 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 2: the Browns could win this outright or certainly cover three 492 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: and a half. I just I don't think the Jacks 493 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: are good enough to be laying points home or away. 494 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 3: I like the Browns as a dog here. Nobody wants him. 495 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: I'll take them. 496 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: You dress them up as a favorite, not so much. 497 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: You make them a dog all of a sudden they 498 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 4: show up. I'm extremely worried about Deshaun Watson. He's a 499 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: shot fighter, Jason. 500 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: You know that. 501 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: Something's really wrong there. But give me that Jim Schwartz defense. 502 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, coming off a loss that way where they 503 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: just got embarrassed by Dallas, you wouldn't want to be 504 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: in Cleveland's film room this week. I'm sure it got 505 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 4: very ugly and there was a lot of foul language. 506 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 4: I think they're going to hit it on there on 507 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: a mission business trip. Get didn't get out probably a 508 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 4: field goal game. I like Cleveland in the points, although 509 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: I didn't fire on. 510 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: It San Francisco Minnesota. I hope I didn't missed the 511 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: best number, but I took six. I think it was 512 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: six and a half. I think Minnesota's got to be 513 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: beside you. They did beat them last year at home, 514 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: and if you're San fran again, it's short week traveling 515 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: to Minnesota. Flores defense did a really good job last 516 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: year on party. I don't know. I don't love it, 517 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: but I do believe Donald is able to get the 518 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: job done here for the cover. 519 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: Well, I like Sam Donald. 520 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 4: I liked him in USC. He's just been in extremely 521 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 4: bad situations. A couple of things jump out me. On 522 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: that game. Minnesota looked very good against a New York 523 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 4: Giants team. I don't know what in the world happened 524 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 4: to them in the last two years. God that First 525 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: of all, the defense looked like a sieve and Minnesota 526 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: just did whatever they want whenever they wanted. With a 527 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 4: larger issue, you lose Saquon Barkley, you still. 528 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: Got NFL players. That offense couldn't have scored the women's 529 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: prison with a fist full of fifties. What happened? 530 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 4: Now, let's look at the other side of the ball. 531 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: Jason and I think this San Franisco team is ridiculous. 532 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 4: Is Gary put him up to you? Put them on 533 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: the road, road carpet. It's a big. 534 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: Number to la. 535 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to lay it, but I'd be too 536 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 4: scared to take the six. You might be laughing all 537 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: the way at the Bank. Sunday not a game I 538 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 4: want to get involved in, only because Minnesota is stepping 539 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: up a class so far on both sides of the ball. 540 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 4: You really don't know what you had last week, but 541 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 4: I think what the forty nine Ers did to that 542 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 4: Jets defense, it's really going to stick in my mind 543 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 4: all year. 544 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: So probably a stay away. 545 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 4: From me, but I think it will be a referendum 546 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: on both teams. Were the forty nine Ers really this good? Yes, 547 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 4: I think they are. But on the Viking is going 548 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 4: to be a lot better than some think they're going 549 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: to be. I thought they were gonna be good this year. 550 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: I think I think they're a nine to ten win team. 551 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 4: I do I really mean that The Bears are the 552 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: ones I'm not sold on. I never bought the Bear 553 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: site for one minute. 554 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: I should point out that the Vikings last year, when 555 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: they beat the Niners will without Justin Jefferson, and the 556 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: Niners did not have Deebo Samuel or Trent Williams, so 557 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: each team kind of fighting with the one hands specially. Yeah, 558 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: that's that's enormous. And I remember this game because I 559 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: was on Take a Guess the Niners. It was like 560 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: a primetime game and there was like a flukey touchdown 561 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: catch by Jordan Addison and uh, yeah, I don't know 562 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: that I'll do that in the in the contest, but 563 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: I think I'll be betting. I did bet Minnesota getting six. Uh, 564 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: Indie Green Bay, Is that any anything there for you? 565 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: No, because of the travel situation and you're starting to 566 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: backup quarterback and what you're talking about Willis I mean 567 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: he can't play. Really, I don't know what they're gonna 568 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: do in that game. Amy is better than they showed. Okay, 569 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: they're the one divisional dog that really hung him in 570 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: their should a hell of a lot of fight against 571 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 4: an incredibly good Houston Texas team. 572 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: So a game, let's just keep it here. 573 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay away from that game, backup quarterback situation, 574 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 4: you know, the drill. 575 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna wave it about, let it go. 576 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: I largely agree, Chargers Panthers. We're supposed to take the 577 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: Panthers here. That's the move, right, all right, Chargers have 578 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: no business lank laying points on the road with this 579 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: limit offense, which by the way, couldn't do jack against 580 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: the Raiders outside of a couple JK. 581 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: Dobberts, Right, you're right, you're right. You know that the 582 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: gentleman from Ohio State, I just had a brain cramp. Yeah, 583 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 3: thank you, broke that long run. 584 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: Sixty seventy yards whatever, so they one hundred and seventy 585 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: five yards under ground. But if you watch the game, 586 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: the Raiders won the line of scrimmage. They just can't 587 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: get out of their own way. I gotta sell you, 588 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: though it's bothersome, I actually like in Bryce Young. I 589 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: wouldn't give up on this kid. Yet, they're a long 590 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 4: ways away. Something's really wrong there. They're gonna have to 591 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: do max protect sets, two receiver sets, three step drop. 592 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 4: They've got to find ways to let him see completions 593 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: in his mind because and I have a lot of 594 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: faith in Dave Canalis. Dave Canalis was presiding over Russell 595 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: Wilson when he had his best years. Dave Canalis saved 596 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: Gino Smith. He's the one that was presided. Or Gino 597 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: Smith and Dave Canalis helped Baker Mayfield get the bag. 598 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: He's a brilliant quarterback whisperer. They got to devise a 599 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 4: new system. But you're right, the Chargers laying six on 600 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 4: the road, the run first team, And you said something 601 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: at the very beginning. 602 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 3: You're spot on. When the balls in the air, you 603 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: want to be on the side of the book. Who 604 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: are the books gonna need here? Everybody saw what the 605 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: Chargers did last week twenty two to dead. 606 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 4: Everybody saw what happened to the to the Carolina Panthers. Right, 607 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: there's your natural You know what you saw last However, 608 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 4: not a game I'm gonna be involved. 609 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: I gotta be really selective this week. 610 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chargers are probably gonna be the second most public 611 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: side this week. I think the most will be the Ravens, right, 612 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: nine and a half ten, Depending on where you're. 613 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: Probably a lot of yes, yes, I have to get 614 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: the Raiders. 615 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 616 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: One of my biggest losses ever was going betting on 617 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: the Ravens at home against like Arizona, like six years 618 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: ago or something. It was just supposed to be such 619 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: a layup, everything lined up, and the Ravens just they 620 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: tend to know show sometimes. I know they've had extra 621 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: time and Harball's a great coach, and the Raiders looked awful. 622 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I already regret regrets at laying 623 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: just a little bit on minus nine and a half. 624 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: I would just number grabbing before it hit ten. But 625 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: I don't even like the bet. I would not be 626 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: shocked that this is a one score game in the 627 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: fourth quarter and the Ravens let them cover. 628 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: Well, I would not be shocked if it's a one 629 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: score game, and I would not be shocked if it's 630 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: a thirty one to thirteen game. 631 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: Can't bet the game. 632 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 4: The Raiders, they think they have an identity, but all 633 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: they do is talk. And this is a tough travel 634 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: spot ten AM game, which I know it doesn't play 635 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: in the factors anymore. I know they're practicing early in 636 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: the morning this week to make up for that. And 637 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 4: tell me, I mean the Raves have had checked out. 638 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: The Ravens have had ten days to prepare. 639 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: John Harbaugh on in a spot like this coming off 640 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: a loss, they don't want to go into. 641 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: You're going to get a max effort out of the 642 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens, and frankly offensively, the Raiders just aren't able going. 643 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: To be able to keep up, I would agree, Yeah, 644 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: I didn't think the Ravens look great though, Bernie against 645 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, I mean they were getting destroyed for most 646 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: of it and then you know, pulling some crap out 647 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: of his rear end at the end. Can I interest 648 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: you backing Daniel Jones on the road in Washington divisional matchup? 649 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: Jones like stinks aggressively, but one of the teams he's 650 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: able to do well against. Not quite Josh Allen versus Miami, 651 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: but Daniel Jones has dominated Washington Quinn, though the new 652 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: coach has a lot of familiarity coming from Dallas. I 653 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: bet Daniel Jones here, I should I admit that out 654 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: what number did you get? 655 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: Two and a half? You're on the right side. I 656 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: think New York's winning that game out right, I really 657 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: do outright? 658 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: Interesting up again, Hey, by the way, do you think 659 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: Dable's on the hot seat? 660 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: Not yet, but I will tell you right now if 661 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: you know you never like the way you lose covered 662 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: the lines for ten years ninety eight to oh eight. 663 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 4: I saw it all. Barry Sanders last year. Last year 664 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: at in prem post was the only sixteen Rod Baronlly team. 665 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: You never liked the way you lose. 666 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: But if the New York Giants continue to get dominated 667 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: and embarrassed like that, yeah, they will definitely make a change. 668 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 3: And can guess who's waiting in the wings. 669 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: The guy who was right by Bill Parcell's side as 670 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator won two Super Bowls in eighty seven 671 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: to ninety one, Bill Belchick. 672 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: He wants that job. He wants that job. 673 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: I like Daniel Jones on this spot though, the Giants 674 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 4: are way better. And you know we're gonna get to 675 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: a stat later here because I'm gonna give Houston as 676 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 4: my best bet. I'll just spill it right now. 677 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: Houston at home laying a touchdown is your best bet. 678 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: They are gonna pull acts. They are going to completely 679 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: pull acts the bear. 680 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: That is interesting. 681 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: Huh, Here's what I was gonna say. 682 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 4: Let's go back to jayde Daniels, right first round draft 683 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 4: pick making his second overall start. So we all know, 684 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: going back to two thousand and Jason, there have been 685 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: twenty seven NFL first round pick quarterbacks who started Week one, 686 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: they were five and twenty two straight up and eight 687 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 4: bought the same against the spread. 688 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 3: But five and twenty two straight up. But how were 689 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: they week two? They were worse? They were worse. So 690 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: Jalen Jane Daniels takes the field. 691 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 4: Against the team, and again you get teams going in 692 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: different directions. I think the Giants win that game out. 693 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: Right, So were you just the same? Apply to Caleb 694 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: and bo Nix? 695 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 4: It absolutely applies because he was another well, yes, because 696 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: Caleb was a first round draft choice and he he's 697 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: won the twenty seven who started the Week one. 698 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: Now he happened to also be the number one. 699 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 4: Overall draft choice, and that guy hasn't won Week one 700 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: since David Carr did a back in All four. You 701 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 4: don't throw for ninety three yards passing and win a 702 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 4: game in the NFL. 703 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: Plus, the Bears needed a special team's touchdown and a 704 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: pick six at home against the Titans to win that game. 705 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: And when I watched with CJ. 706 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: Stroud the way they moved the ball up and down 707 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 4: the field of raw offficiency and when to Nika Ryans 708 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 4: is done with that team. You added at the fact 709 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 4: that rookie quarterbacks, first round picks. Quarterback start a Week one, 710 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 4: come back, and start Week two three even worse against 711 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: the number. 712 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a long day for the Bears. 713 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 4: I love you don't like laying a touchdown, but I 714 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: think there's real value there. 715 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: I think the Bears are in big trouble. 716 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: How many of these seven point teaser? Would you do? 717 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: A seven point teaser with the Texans down to pick them? 718 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: You could take the Cowboys down to wait the Cowboys 719 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: off the board. Oh no, the Cowboys is six. You 720 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: can take the Cowboys. Well, you don't go through seven. 721 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: Six and a half against New Orleans, right. 722 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, six six and a half, and then you could 723 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: take the Ravens down. I mean Baltimore, Dallas and Houston. 724 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: Who's screwing that up? 725 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's one of those things we've done. 726 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: Todd Furman and I joke about who loses, and sometimes 727 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 4: you get stuck. 728 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: All in the bag. 729 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: I do not think Houston is going to lose to 730 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 3: the Bears, no way. Now. 731 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 4: Other Rocky quarterbacks starting their second game, and I think 732 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: Baltimore is a great tease down. I don't if you 733 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: tease Houston from seven down to pick them. 734 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: It breaks the math rules. Not that you can't get 735 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: it with it, but I don't recommend it. 736 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right. 737 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: Well I was Dallas. We haven't got to Dallas. 738 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna do. I just saw some news. 739 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 2: Hold on, Bernie, Saints have sent their players home because 740 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: of this hurricane bearing down on Louisiana. And we you know, again, 741 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how that factors into your handicap of 742 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: the game, but you're disrupting this the week's schedule. You know, 743 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: these players, they get the Okay, Monday, we're doing this. 744 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: On Tuesday, We're doing this Wednesday and on down the line. 745 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: And this hurricane now you're like, oh geez, we got 746 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: to batten down the hatches and go to the grocery 747 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: store and all this, and it just it kind of 748 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: throws your week off. And I like the Cowboys to 749 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: begin with. I think I like them even more now. 750 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: I hate to bring up a hurricane involved, but you know, 751 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: if there a whole week is going to be thrown 752 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: into flux here, I think that's a big edge for Dallas. No. 753 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: Look to dealing with human beings, absolutely, Jason. You know, 754 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 4: you get families with kids and such. Let's pretend none 755 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: of that ever happened. You say they've taken the game 756 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: off the board temporarily. 757 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I just didn't see it on the card. 758 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 3: You're sorry. 759 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 4: Okay, So let's pretend none of this had happened and 760 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 4: there was no hurricane. I already liked Dallas, yeah, and 761 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 4: you you almost never get me to fire on Dallas. 762 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: But I think what New Orleans did week one is 763 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 4: a bit of a fagazy. They're they're not that good, 764 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 4: and sure enough, Derek Carth beating his chest seeing all 765 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: the wrong things. I don't like this New Orleans team. 766 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 4: I don't like Dennis Allen. They had a good day, 767 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 4: right every now and then a squirrel finds his nuts. 768 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: They found it. 769 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: They're going to go into Dallas, and this is where 770 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 4: Dallas lives. Man, you know, you know, Reggie Jackson was 771 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 4: mister October. George Steinbrenner called Dave Winfield, mister May, Mike 772 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 4: McCarthy and Dak Prescott there, mister September. It's September. Man. 773 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 4: They're going to put thirty thirty five points up. And 774 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 4: by the way, Dallas is Dallas's defense really looked good. 775 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: To me, Oh my. 776 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 4: God, fast aggressive pursuit angles they were. 777 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: They were going after you with bad intention. 778 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 4: So this is a mismatch, I believe, and I think 779 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 4: Dallas wins by double digits. 780 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: All right, we could wrap up. I don't know any 781 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: anything on Ram. The Rams are so beat up. Bengals 782 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: looks like No T. Higgins again, Pittsburgh laying three in Denver. 783 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: I hate to do this, but I think I want 784 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 2: to back bone Nicks here. 785 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 4: Well, Justin Fields will never get a penny of my money, 786 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 4: so we'll just set that aside. You don't know what 787 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 4: you got with Well. I just think he's a college 788 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: version of a red option quarterback. I loved him at 789 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 4: Ohio State because default meccanim mechanism is to run. He 790 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 4: takes two long to get rid of the ball. He's 791 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: not he's ten and twenty eight. Okay, let let's leave 792 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 4: the set that aside. There was one other game you 793 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 4: mentioned though, that caught my arm. Sorry, dude, you mentioned 794 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 4: three games. Denver is a stay away from me. What 795 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: were the other two you mentioned just before that? Because 796 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 4: one I'm interested in. 797 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: It was Cincinnati and Casey. 798 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 4: Yes, put this in your pipe, my friend, I got 799 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 4: a few malls there. I'm told Joe Burrow is a 800 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: long way from one hundred percent? Did you did you 801 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 4: see his throws? He didn't have the zip and did 802 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 4: you see him a bench? He kept going like this 803 00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: with his wrists. 804 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 2: I did so. He was asked that. He was asked, 805 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: hold on the quote or is your wrist preventing you 806 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: from making throws you want to make? And he said 807 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 2: absolutely not. Now he's not gonna say yes, right, but 808 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: I think you're onto something. The video show that like 809 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 2: it's painting him and he got didn't get the surgery 810 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: like eight months ago. 811 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 3: Yes, and it's in his head. And I love Joe 812 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: Burrow to death. 813 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: There were multiple possessions and it didn't register when I 814 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 4: was first seeing it. He didn't be in the huddle. 815 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 4: He'd break the huddle, start to go toward the line 816 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 4: of scrimmage. He's trying to get that wrist loose, right, yeah. 817 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: And then on the bench it was even more pronounced. 818 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: Somebody handed him a gatorade bottle, and I know it's 819 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 4: against a lot of practice psychology without a license, but 820 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: I looked at him and he was cringey, just grabbing 821 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 4: the gatorade bottle. 822 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: So he's either. 823 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 4: In pain or something, and that can very much affect 824 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: his grip. And it affects his grip, it's going to 825 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 4: affect us his arm speed. So no, Joe Burrow, no good, 826 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 4: no blo. You got to watch that because he's he's 827 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 4: the engine that makes that team run. 828 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: I don't love the Chiefs as a team. I'm kind 829 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: of bored of them. I don't want them to win 830 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: a thirsty Sable. But I don't think this is a 831 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 2: This is like a speed bump for them. It feels 832 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 2: like a walkover. I can't believe the Bengals are taking 833 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: professional money. It looks like this was opened at six, 834 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 2: and I see four and a half in some spots. 835 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: Now five is a dead number. 836 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 3: Then it's here's the deal. You bring up two excellent points. 837 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 4: But and maybe Joe Burrow will they'll shoot up a 838 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 4: toward all and he'll feel like a manon bucket. 839 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 840 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 4: Cincinnati, though, is the one team, as long as Burrow's 841 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 4: under center, that has the DNA to not fear the Chiefs. 842 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 4: You know, Jason, you you're you're extremely observant. I mean, 843 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 4: I watch you guys show all the time. You see 844 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 4: things other people don't. That Baltimore game, there was something 845 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 4: in their body language as the game that went on. 846 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 4: When they played Kansas City Thursday night a week ago, 847 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 4: they were going to find a way to not win 848 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 4: this game. And Casey Stengel used to say, the reason 849 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 4: teams lose to the Yankees is that gets stuck. 850 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: Staring at the penstripes. 851 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 4: And I think the Chiefs have that effect on people, 852 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 4: I really do, but not on the Bengals. The Bengals 853 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 4: have gone in there and beaten them, and the Bengals 854 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 4: had the. 855 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 3: Sideline call a couple of years ago. 856 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 4: They've beaten them, actually multiple times. They're the Chiefs. They're 857 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 4: other team that the Chiefs know. They're not afraid of us. 858 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 4: Why haven't you put them in cold weather? What'd you 859 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 4: see that stat to? And I love to them put 860 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 4: him under seventy degrees? 861 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: Not good? 862 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 4: Buffalo can't do it, forget you know any of the 863 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: other teams we talk about who also I'm omitting, But 864 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals are the one team I believe that 865 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 4: if they're healthy and Burrows healthy, will gives chances to 866 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 4: city everything they could ever ask for. And I think 867 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 4: that's the user here. Joel Burrow just is not healthy. 868 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's healthy. No, t Higgins the 869 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: running game very pedestrian. Meanwhile, Mixing goes for what Bucks sixty. 870 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't know the Bengals, I lie. I had high 871 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: hopes for them, and that schedule is tough, all. 872 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 4: Right, Bertie. I do know one thing that I found 873 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 4: out that Jamar Chase apparently had food poisoning before the game. 874 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 4: I think you'll see a bigger active rollout of Jamar 875 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 4: Chase this week as long as Broke can get them 876 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 4: the ball. 877 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he is going against McKinney. Who is it, McKinny, 878 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie, I'm sorry, right, Trent McDuffie is at the 879 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: sounds right, Yeah, yeah, mcduffee. He's excellent and he struggled 880 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: by the way Chase did against Christian Gonzales, a young 881 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 2: kid out of Oregon, I believe, who got hurt last 882 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: year for the Patriots, but he locked up. Chase had 883 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: like two catches on seven targets in the second half 884 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: something crazy like that. Like, yes, I don't know, maybe 885 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: his mind's just not into it because he didn't have 886 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: his contract. But all right, Bernie found out that I. 887 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: Did hear he had food poisoning. So for what that's. 888 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: Worth, Yeah, that's like thirty minutes of real juicy breakdown 889 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 2: almost every game on the card. Love it, Bernie, thanks 890 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: a lot, Fox Sports Radio man, congrats on all your success. 891 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Jason, 892 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 3: and enjoy the rest of your week.