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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Rashaan McDonald, our host the weekly Money Making

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Speaker 2: Now let's get this show started.

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Speaker 1: My guest is the president and chief operating officer a

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Speaker 1: One United Bank. One United Bank is the nation's largest

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Speaker 1: black owned bank and award winning community development financial institution.

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Speaker 1: It serves as a bridge by offering affordable financial services

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Speaker 1: and promoting financial literacy. Please welcome to the Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. Terry Williams. How are you doing, Miss Williams.

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Speaker 2: I'm great. It's good to be here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm based in Atlanta. So where are you

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Speaker 1: calling in from?

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Speaker 2: I'm calling in from Miami.

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Speaker 1: Miami, Florida. Okay. Now, One United Bank. I I talked

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Speaker 1: to Ken. I met him many many years ago in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Now, how did the One United Bank four

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Speaker 1: match start?

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Speaker 3: So we started with a community bank in Boston, and

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Speaker 3: we acquired four black owned banks, one here in Miami,

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Speaker 3: which is where I am now, and two in LA

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Speaker 3: and the one in Boston. We combined them into one

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Speaker 3: and we changed our name to One United Bank. That

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Speaker 3: was over twenty years ago, and since then we have

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Speaker 3: launched a digital platform.

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Speaker 2: We were actually the first digital.

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Speaker 3: Black owned bank, and that was in two thousand and five,

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Speaker 3: so twenty years ago. And from there we have become

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Speaker 3: the largest black owned bank in the country with customers

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Speaker 3: all over in all fifty states.

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Speaker 1: Now, how could people get information about One United Bank?

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Speaker 3: You can go to one United o Neunited dot com

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Speaker 3: and you can learn about who we are, our technology,

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Speaker 3: and you can also open up an account online within minutes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's great because one thing I've always been mad

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Speaker 1: about is that in the black community, community of color,

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Speaker 1: they've taken all the brick and mortar banks basically out.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about food deserts, in the black community,

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Speaker 1: the financial desert doesn't even exist, and so we are

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Speaker 1: prisoners of those high check cash in places I can't

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Speaker 1: stand there. You go into the community of color, you

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Speaker 1: see churches, you see these they call them hot sheets motels,

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Speaker 1: you see liquor stores and these check cash in places.

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Speaker 1: That really is embarrassing to me because you know, you

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Speaker 1: got to get buzzed in, you got to get buzzed out.

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Speaker 1: You bringing your money in there to get cash, and

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Speaker 1: you're being treated like a criminal. And so it's so

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Speaker 1: enlightening to have one United Bank positioned itself to make services,

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Speaker 1: proper banking services available to our community in the digital format.

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Speaker 1: Let's go in detail of why that's so important. Mis Williams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're absolutely right, and that's what we saw twenty

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Speaker 3: of using smartphones, of using social media, and so we

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Speaker 3: they didn't have a need to go into a branch

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Speaker 3: so we, you know, twenty years ago, decided that we

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Speaker 3: wanted to build this platform not only because the technology

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Speaker 3: that the branches were declining in our community. And you know,

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Speaker 3: one of the things about myself. I've lived in major cities,

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Speaker 3: there's just not enough financial services in rule America as well,

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I love people like Terry Williams because she knows her

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Speaker 1: brand so well that I always like to have to

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Speaker 1: something that was so important, that's taking a picture of

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Speaker 1: Part where I feel our community has been imprisoned by

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Speaker 1: these high check cashing places. They go in there, they

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Speaker 1: treat you like I'm just cherry. They treat I don't

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Speaker 1: so I've been on a war path about this, and

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Speaker 1: so when I that's why I'm such a fan of

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Speaker 2: You know you I may not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a paid brand abaschetor. I'm just gonna put

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Speaker 1: it out there, but I am an ambacheldor of Change.

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Speaker 1: I am a bassador, ambassador of information and walk them

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Speaker 1: through detail how they can take a picture dick check

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Speaker 1: and how they can get their money back through the

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Speaker 1: ATM services they are everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So again we realized that, you know, access

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Speaker 3: to money, what's going to be is important, not what's

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Speaker 3: bring up ATM networks because people will be like, okay,

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Speaker 3: if I bank with you, how do I get access

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Speaker 3: to my money. We have the largest searcharge free ATM

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Speaker 3: go if you're a customer when United, you can go

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Speaker 3: into a Walgreens seven eleven. You can even go to

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Speaker 3: a Chase Bank or a City bank and get access

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Speaker 3: to your money without paying a fee. We have one

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand surcharge free ATMs where you can access your money.

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Speaker 3: And the reason that we did that is we you know,

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Speaker 3: developed these partnerships, is because we realize that those you know,

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Speaker 3: some of those ATMs. In fact, I have to say this,

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Speaker 3: I was I needed cash, and I was in a

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Speaker 3: some cash, and the fee was five dollars a ninety

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So I say that to say we know that these

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Speaker 3: only does deserve to access our money surcharge free. You mentioned,

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Speaker 3: you know, getting paid two days or early. You know

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Speaker 3: this is not a you know, payday advance loan. You

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Speaker 3: know this is not something that we charge you for.

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Speaker 3: If you bank with one United and you do a

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Speaker 3: direct deposit of your paycheck as opposed to you getting

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Speaker 3: that pay on Friday, you will get it on Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: no fee, no charge.

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Speaker 2: You just get your money early.

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Speaker 3: Again, we recognize that that could make the difference between

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Speaker 3: you needing a payday loan or you not needing a

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Speaker 1: And the key in this conversation, ladies and gentlemen, is

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Speaker 1: that you're now doing positive banking these high fee charging places.

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Speaker 1: That's not banking. That's not banking. They're never going to

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Speaker 1: improve your credit score, there's never going to be in

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Speaker 1: a position to give you a debit credit card. None

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Speaker 1: of those things are going to happen if you continue

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Speaker 1: cashing places. And that's important that we say this in

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Speaker 1: this interview, is that money making conversations masterclass is what

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Speaker 1: I call education information. Terry Williams is on this show

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Speaker 1: because I asked her to come on the show because

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Speaker 1: she's providing a service that everybody on this call need

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Speaker 1: to hear. Because even I Rashawn McDonald, because I use ATMs, Terry,

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Speaker 1: I bank with a particular bank. If I go to

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Speaker 2: Charged that fee.

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Speaker 1: You talking about it? Yeah, Okay, Now she's telling you

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Speaker 1: you bank with one United Bank, you can go anywhere

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Speaker 1: no fee. That right there is the home run we're

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Speaker 1: looking for. We are looking for as a community because

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Speaker 1: now we're banking. Take a picture of your check. I've

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Speaker 2: Now I've taken.

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Speaker 1: A picture of Sometimes I go in the bank, I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like standing in that line. I just go

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Speaker 1: up there, take a picture of the check depositive and

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Speaker 1: everything's good. Never never have to stand in a long line.

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Speaker 1: So I know that even my bank, I use their service.

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Speaker 1: So you could know that. Okay, Rishon, have you ever

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Speaker 1: used that type of banking service? You wanted to deposit

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Speaker 1: your check through a camera.

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Speaker 2: And it goes it to your bank account.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it does work like that. It works like that

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Speaker 1: for me and can work like that for you. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you start pushing this idea, how you getting the

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Speaker 1: even groundbreaking because guess what, like you said, black people

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I have to say that this has

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Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is, you know, there was.

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Speaker 3: A time when people didn't even know that black banks existed.

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Speaker 3: You know, they are like, oh no, you know, and

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Speaker 3: our business. With our business. We are a FDIC insured bank.

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Speaker 3: We are a real bank, not a fintech, not somebody

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Speaker 3: that's you know, asking you for your money and your

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Speaker 3: confidential information but doesn't have.

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Speaker 2: The full faith and credit.

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Speaker 3: We have the full faith, faith and credit of the

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Speaker 3: a community. There's also a need for financial literacy. This

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Speaker 3: is where you know, your podcast, where your your program

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Speaker 3: comes in, because we we do need to get educated.

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Speaker 3: You know, I sometimes get annoyed when people talk about

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Speaker 3: not good with money. We are great with money. We

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Speaker 3: We don't have the same income. You know, we have

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Speaker 3: faced discrimination.

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Speaker 2: We have been.

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Speaker 3: Actually precluded from We were the asset that was owned

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Speaker 2: That discriminated against us.

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Speaker 3: But if you look at you know what we are

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Speaker 2: But we do need to.

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Speaker 3: Learn more about how wealthy people build wealth.

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Speaker 2: And I, you know, I say this to everyone. One

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Speaker 3: One of the things that wealthy people know about building

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Speaker 3: Way of saving, if it goes in your pocket, you're

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Speaker 4: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making

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Speaker 4: Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashaan McDonald for.

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Speaker 1: One United Bank has come here.

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Speaker 2: Now you got the.

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Speaker 1: No, not, Terry, if you're going to launch it on

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Speaker 1: So let measure you this, Terry, how do they apply?

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Speaker 1: The narrative that's put out there is that Terry Wibbs

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Speaker 1: Well, she's come on my show, Ladies and gentlemen. Terry Williams,

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