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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Billy to Jericho. I'm Danielle Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and we're here to talk about film with you again. Danielle,

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Speaker 1: how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Hang on, let me let me crack this DC mmmm.

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Speaker 3: I feel less guilt knowing that you have been caffeinated today.

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Speaker 1: Throw some DS on that, on that on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: remember like a couple episodes ago or whatever it was

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Speaker 1: that I was like, I'm only drinking twelve ounces of

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Speaker 1: cold brew a day. That's out the window.

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Speaker 2: Now, sure.

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Speaker 1: This is actually the second this is the second thermos.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know of cold brew. Uh huh, girl,

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Speaker 2: I listen.

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Speaker 1: I cut it with water this time, because is technically

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Speaker 1: it's you're supposed to know. I wasn't doing that for

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Speaker 1: a long time. I didn't realize I was supposed to

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Speaker 1: the second one though, So I had I've already had

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Speaker 1: roughly twenty maybe twenty ounces, maybe maybe eighteen ounces, and

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Speaker 1: then I decided to go for like another six and

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Speaker 1: then I, uh, just put water in there and so

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Speaker 1: it feels full, which is what I need to feel.

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Speaker 1: I need to feel like this entire thing is filled.

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Speaker 3: You should put a fucking drop of coffee in there,

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Speaker 3: a drop of that cold brew concentrate, and then literally

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Speaker 3: fill the rest up with water.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I need to be drinking coffee flavored water is

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Speaker 1: what I need to be drunk?

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Speaker 2: Do they?

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Speaker 1: You know if that is that a business idea? Is

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Speaker 1: that a business idea?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Water, I'm sure somebody would buy it. But I'm also

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Speaker 3: sure somebody has done it.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever? You've never been to Rhode Island? Have you?

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Speaker 2: So you don't know about coffee milk?

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Speaker 1: What's coffee milk?

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Speaker 3: It's a specifically Rhode Island thing, and it's genuinely like

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Speaker 3: a you who like a container style you who, but

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Speaker 3: instead of chocolate, it's coffee coffee milk.

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Speaker 1: Why does that sound really good?

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Speaker 2: It's really good. Yeah, Rhode Island's got beverages on lock

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Speaker 2: between Dell's and coffee milk. It's pretty good. And it's

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Speaker 2: also weirdly good to bake with. I've baked things with

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Speaker 2: it before and it's good.

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Speaker 1: What oh man, I wondered if Peter Fouchett drinks coffee milk.

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Speaker 2: Let's send him a case and dare him to.

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Speaker 1: You have he thro it over zoom. You have to

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Speaker 1: drink this entire thing in front of us.

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Speaker 3: It's like anyway, when people would like make their kids

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Speaker 3: smoke a whole pack of cigarettes if they caught them smoking,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna make.

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Speaker 2: You sick, make you sick of this shit.

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Speaker 1: Well, my parents never knew I smoked, so it's not

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Speaker 1: too late.

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Speaker 2: Mom Pa, did you go next time you see Millie

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Speaker 2: make or smoke a.

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Speaker 1: Hole back.

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Speaker 2: Anymore?

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Speaker 1: I actually think they they probably know now.

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Speaker 2: They definitely knew then too. Cigarette smell one hell.

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Speaker 1: I know, and that's like I was always like, I

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Speaker 1: am hiding it from him. There's no way they know.

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Speaker 1: I'm slick as fuck. There's no way they know. But

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Speaker 1: quite honestly, I was smoking on their back porch at night.

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Speaker 1: I would sneak out and have friends over on the

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Speaker 1: back porch and we would be smoking cigarettes back there.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know why I was being being slick.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't y'all weren't sneak and shit. You know what's well,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a little Grandma updates. She's doing great,

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Speaker 1: by the way, she loves her. She's like adjusted so well.

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Speaker 3: She loves her nursing home, and I was with her

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Speaker 3: the other day, and I'm still seeing her. I'm seeing

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Speaker 3: her more than she would like. Like every time I

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Speaker 3: go she's like, don't you have anything better to do?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, God, damn, bitch, what it wasn't enough

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Speaker 3: that I fucking bought a house for you that you

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Speaker 3: did not want to live in And now I'm stuck

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Speaker 3: in the fuck at my hometown, living in this place.

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Speaker 2: And every I goes in here, like three or four

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Speaker 2: times a week and she's like, uh hi, And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what the fuck, dude.

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Speaker 1: What does she think you're doing? You're just like monitoring,

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Speaker 1: Like is she thinking like this lady comes in monitors

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Speaker 2: Why? Yeah, she talk too much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's just annoyed because I'm always talking and like

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Speaker 3: trying to make her like she's not always annoyed.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's very funny to me when she's like, Hi,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing here? Like I'm interrupting some shit?

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Speaker 1: Is it because she's with her friends and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: want you to come around when she's hanging out with

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Speaker 1: her friends. That was kind of like us in high school,

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Speaker 1: like Mom, get away from me.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's like that, like if she's if she's playing

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Speaker 3: a game. So they have a whole activity schedule for

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Speaker 3: the month they put up. And I know better now

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Speaker 3: than to go during bingo because not only is my

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Speaker 3: grandma my Grandma's like, shut the fuck up, you better

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Speaker 3: be turning these.

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Speaker 2: Tiles or or else. But every I've never seen a.

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Speaker 3: Group of elderly women get so hype as they do

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Speaker 3: when they're playing bingo.

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Speaker 2: There's this one woman who.

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Speaker 3: She kinda talks like this, And the couple of times

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Speaker 3: that I've gone in during bingo, she's always yelling at

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Speaker 3: the activities lady because she's like trying to go around

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Speaker 3: and help people, so who can't, Like, you know, do

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Speaker 3: think do the dabbers themselves or like do the planks themselves?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And she always goes, come on area, up, go

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Speaker 2: the next number. Oh my god, damn.

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Speaker 3: And then one time I was literally talking to my

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Speaker 3: grandmother trying to explain to her, like, oh, we don't

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Speaker 3: have the fifty two, we have the she goes, hey,

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Speaker 3: keep it.

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Speaker 2: Quiet over there, and I'm like, oh my god, god, damn, Gloria.

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Speaker 1: Have you have you played bingo as an adult?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I played with them. Yeah, I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: It's too competitive.

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Speaker 1: It's too competitive, and also like it's really stress fully,

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Speaker 1: especially because okay, bottom line, no one's fucking playing with

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Speaker 1: one card, period, No one card. You're it's like you're

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Speaker 1: just showing how stupid you are if you show up

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Speaker 1: to play like Professional Bengal, like the Elks Lodge and

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Speaker 1: need to show up one card. Most people got like

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Speaker 1: ten twenty cards, and then when they start calling out

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Speaker 1: the numbers, it's this whole like d thing that is

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Speaker 1: so stressful because you're just like trying to scan, You're

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Speaker 1: trying to make sure that you got all of the

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Speaker 1: things that they just called out, and when you've got

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Speaker 1: multiple people around you doing the same thing, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just chaos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And they literally give these women a limit of

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Speaker 3: four cards, smart because otherwise it's mayhem. It's fucking mayhem.

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Speaker 3: There's one activities lady and if they if they have

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Speaker 3: more than four cards, and it's only for the ones

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Speaker 3: who are like super lucid, yeah, because if they have

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Speaker 3: and help me, and she's like, I can't.

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Speaker 2: I got call the next number.

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Speaker 3: It's I appreciate this lovely woman who does the activities

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Speaker 3: with them because they are fucking wild.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I go. I go sometime.

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Speaker 3: Most of the time, I'll go, and you know, it's

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Speaker 3: now that the weather's still nice, so I take her.

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Speaker 3: I'm outside and we sit and every once in a

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Speaker 3: while we'll be sitting outside and I'll be talking and

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Speaker 3: she's just like, can you literally stop talking. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: The people upstairs.

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Speaker 3: She's like, she's like, you don't know what it's like

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Speaker 3: here with all these people screaming and hollering all day.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you mean screaming and hollering?

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Speaker 3: They're just old. And she's like, now I got to

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, cool, We'll have some silent time,

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Speaker 2: some silent reflective time.

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Speaker 3: But she is fucking hilarious. And my favorite is when

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Speaker 3: we eat together. A lot of times, you know, I'll

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Speaker 3: just join her in the dining room and there's this

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Speaker 3: one woman that sits across from her who also has dementia,

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Speaker 3: and she's usually she's very sweet, and she usually like

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Speaker 3: will close her eyes and then she'll open them and

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Speaker 3: ask the same question, like fifteen times. So like she'll

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Speaker 3: and ask the same question. At one point she was

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Speaker 3: doing that and my grandma looked at me with her

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Speaker 2: She just starts laughing and she's.

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Speaker 3: Like, she's like, I can't I can't believe she's just

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Speaker 3: asking the same questions all the time. And I'm like, bitch,

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Speaker 3: you just asked me what the weather was three times

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Speaker 3: in a row, Like you are the same, Like why

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Speaker 3: are you in fun of this lady? You are the

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Speaker 3: fucking same, And she starts cracking up. But it gets

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Speaker 3: wild in there. They have a whole new crop of

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Speaker 3: CNA certified nursing assistants and nurses aids, like these very adorable, young,

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Speaker 3: bright children fresh out of nursing school. They're all so sweet,

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Speaker 3: and these people are giving them a run for their

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: So there's this one lady and she sits kind of

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Speaker 3: behind us in the dining room, and I didn't hear

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Speaker 3: the full conversation, but this this guy was sitting with her.

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Speaker 3: The CNA was sitting with her, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: she just took this little juice cup and fucking.

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Speaker 2: Threw it on the ground.

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Speaker 3: And then she looked at it and she goes, well,

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Speaker 3: you told me to do it. And I'm like, there's

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Speaker 3: no way he told her to do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, both, buddy, both my grandma and I just burst

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Speaker 5: out laughing, and I'm like, see, we can't be together,

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Speaker 5: we can't hang because this is where I get it from.

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Speaker 3: She finds all this crazy stuff so funny. She just

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Speaker 3: spends most of the day laughing at people and it's delightful.

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Speaker 3: But there's this one woman who is so sweet and

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Speaker 3: she always wears like a cute little hat. And I

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Speaker 3: always said hi to her. I always said, you know, like, hey,

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Speaker 3: what's up? And try to like I talked to everyone

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Speaker 3: when I go. And I kind of have my own

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Speaker 3: little crew of friends there now, which is you know,

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Speaker 3: pathetic and great.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, who are my friends? These old people in

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Speaker 2: this nursing home I love three times a week.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: But I couldn't crack her.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 3: She would always kind of look at me, and at

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Speaker 3: one point she was like, I said a lo to her.

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Speaker 3: When she was coming out of her room and she

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Speaker 3: just started wheeling her chair back in her room, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, fuck, dude, but I got fake.

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Speaker 2: I got fucking faced hard. She started backing away from

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Speaker 2: me like I was a fucking ghoul, Like good lord.

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Speaker 1: Get in, get in, hurrying up, and you know.

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Speaker 2: Me, the first place I go is is it because

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Speaker 2: I'm black? Because this been trying to get away from

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Speaker 1: I listen. I'm so happy that she's having fun. She's

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Speaker 3: But when we did The Exorcist on the show, I

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll just like load up a bunch of

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Speaker 3: This is how eight people died in one day of

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Speaker 2: I was like, the fuck, dude, can't we just watch

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you're I am absolutely certain that you're just

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Speaker 2: They're also they're also individuals.

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Speaker 2: She wrote me a review.

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Speaker 3: When she got back, she sent me a text and

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm loving those genes like that hilarious. Well

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Speaker 1: Like that's the thing, it is you. It's why you love.

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Speaker 1: What's this scene from that movie that you love with

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Speaker 1: Oh Hannibal. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so.

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Speaker 2: That she cras me up.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that's in a nutshell basically

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Speaker 3: So truly, And I not fallen far from the tree.

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Speaker 3: there are so many years ahead. It doesn't feel like

439
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 3: it even though, like, you know, half of my life

440
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 3: is over, but there are a lot of years.

441
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 2: Ahead and they can be good.

442
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm just kind of you know, looking forward

443
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 3: to it. I I reconnected with my fourth grade teacher, wow,

444
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 3: because her mom was in the facility, and it's kind

445
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 3: of the story is kind of crazy. But the day

446
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 3: that I saw her in the hallway, her mom actually

447
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 3: was in the process of dying. Oh no, So she

448
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: kind of left me a car. She we talked real quick,

449
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, go do your thing.

450
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 3: And then she left me a card like a week

451
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,959
Speaker 3: or two later and with her contact Infoone she's at

452
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 3: the front desk and she's like, I'm so sorry. Like

453
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 3: the day you came in, my mom was dying and

454
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: I was like Jesus Christ. But I just love I

455
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 3: love reconnecting with her and just I don't know, it's

456
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 3: just it's nice to be at this age and feel

457
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 3: some semblance of peace and happiness, and to be able

458
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: to give that to my Grandma's all I ever wanted.

459
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 2: I did not want the end of.

460
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 3: Her life to be bad, yeah, of course, or to

461
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 3: be a struggle in any way. So yeah, I'm just

462
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 3: out there hanging out with these oldies and they are

463
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: fucking wild.

464
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: Well you're you're a good gad daughter. And I'll tell

465
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: you there's people out there who are doing little to

466
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 1: nothing for their elders. So the idea that you're there

467
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: making everybody feel great, not just your grandma, but everybody

468
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: else that's in the facility, that people working there. I mean,

469
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: I just you know, you're like, you're such a such

470
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: a good person, such a special price.

471
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: My favorite thing in the world is when just as

472
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: a last anecdote, is when when lunch is over, when

473
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 3: a meal time is over, some people you know, aren't

474
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 3: they're in wheelchairs, but they can push themselves, but they're very,

475
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: very slow. And you've never seen anyone more impatient than

476
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 3: my grandma. Posts lunch and she's like, can we get

477
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: this parade move in?

478
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: So usually I'll walk I'll walk up to the front

479
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: and I'll just kind of ask people like, hey, do

480
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: you want to ride? And they're like yeah.

481
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,959
Speaker 3: So I'm like pushing wheelchairs down the hallway and cracking up,

482
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you can't be holding these people up.

483
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: They everyone's gonna gotta go to the bathroom. You know

484
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 3: that it runs right through them.

485
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: And so I was pushing this this one woman the

486
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: other like the other day, I was kind of like, oh,

487
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: do you want you want to lift? And she's like yeah.

488
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: So I pushed her and asked her where she wanted

489
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 3: to go, and like to her room or to the

490
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: activities or whatever. And I was pushing her and she goes,

491
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 3: she's so it kind of it makes me cheer up

492
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 3: a little bit.

493
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: She's so sweet as she goes. She's like, you're She's.

494
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,959
Speaker 3: Like, you're a granddaughter, right, And I said yeah, and

495
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: she said, well, you're a good one and we all

496
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: love like you very much.

497
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, oh my god,

498
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 2: thank you, yes, thank you so much.

499
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's so, that's so wonderful. And like even

500
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: though you come on this podcast and you you talk

501
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: that shit and yeah, you laugh loud and you and

502
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: you come down on people who put chafing sticks on

503
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: their thighs in the middle of the street. I always

504
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: knew this. I always knew this about you. You're the

505
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: fucking You're the nicest, sweetest, most helpful person. And not

506
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: for nothing. If you ever decide on a career change

507
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: at some point in your life, I feel like you

508
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: need to go into some kind of care like some

509
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: kind of job. Yeah, I mean honestly, like I feel

510
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: like you've got the gift, as much as you may

511
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: not think you do. I mean, you're out here like

512
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: caring for your family, but also other people. So you know,

513
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's something that's very special. And I

514
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: feel like healthcare or elder care needs people like you.

515
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that very much, and I definitely did

516
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 3: ask if I could volunteer.

517
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, could I help with activities or you know.

518
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: Do any because I'm there a lot and I'm close,

519
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: and I do love it, Like I really do love

520
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 3: talking to older people and making them feel.

521
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Validated and you know, just kind of honoring their life.

522
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: Like you know, people don't ask them about their life

523
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: very often, so I kind of just like hearing what

524
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: they have to say and just giving just giving them time,

525
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: just giving them time. It's all good.

526
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: But I think, yeah, it could definitely be something that

527
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 3: I do for volunteering, and I love it.

528
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: I bring them all.

529
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 3: I just kind of ask what people need because you know,

530
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: sometimes people don't have family anymore. So there was a

531
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: woman there who, like I noticed her glasses were falling

532
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: down a lot, and so I just bought her like

533
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: an eyeglass cord. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, you can

534
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: adjust it behind your head if you want, or you

535
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: can put it on your neck, and it's just like

536
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: little things like that that they just like to be seen,

537
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: you know, So I just I like doing that. So

538
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: thank you for thank you for seeing that in me.

539
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: Well, I absolutely, I absolutely say it in you. And

540
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: also I just feel like like I'm I'm just so

541
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: happy that everything worked out with your grandma. I mean,

542
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: I know it was kind of like touching and go

543
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: there for a while. I don't feel like you moved

544
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: back home in Vain. I feel like, even if she's

545
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: not living in your house, you are there with her

546
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: as much as you can. You're making everybody's day brighter.

547
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, saying that. I think that everything

548
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: happens for a reason, and this happened for a reason.

549
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: So thank you. You know what else happened for a reason?

550
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: Our fucking theme, oh art.

551
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: Theme, oh art. I'm like dancing like grandma doing something

552
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: shoulder works.

553
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's fucking popping and locking that shoulder

554
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: all day talking about her God's youah boyfriend.

555
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: And I'm like, there better not be a man in

556
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 2: the picture.

557
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: One I will be jealous and I cannot live being

558
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: jealous of a ninety year old woman with a boyfriend.

559
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: That cannot be my life.

560
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: But also again, I do never I never want to

561
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: buy my grandmother condoms.

562
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: I just don't want to be in that position.

563
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 3: And they have signs up all over the place that

564
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 3: are like, here are your rights as a as a resident,

565
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: and one of them is consensual relationships. And I'm like, nah,

566
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: we ain't doing that shit. You don't have my consent

567
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: to be in a relationship.

568
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: That's why she's always telling you to fuck up, Danielle.

569
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: I know you ruin in her fucking vibe. She's like, listen,

570
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to fucking hear. I don't turn this granddaughter

571
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: of mine to keep coming over.

572
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: This fucking fridge and ass granddaughter, this single bitch, she's

573
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: over here hanging out with me instead of going out.

574
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: Fucking well, listen, single bitches. I think is a really

575
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: good transition to our theme.

576
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 2: Truly, truly do you want do you want to tell

577
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: them what it is? Or do you want me to

578
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: tell them what it is?

579
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like you should say it because again,

580
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: best title in the world. I contribute nothing to the titles,

581
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: and I just think this one is hilarious.

582
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: You came up with the theme, but I decided to

583
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: call it smells like garbage, feels like love, and it's

584
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 2: about garbage because we're doing movies about romance fall romance

585
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: in New York or romance in New York.

586
00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: That's right.

587
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: And you know, New York smells like garbage. It's my

588
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: favorite city.

589
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: And I can be very real about the fact that

590
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 3: New York smells like garbage.

591
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: And there's it's everywhere it does.

592
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: It smells like garbage. It's fine. What you get for

593
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: the garbage is culture, the center of trade and industry

594
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: in this country. So it's a trade off. It's like,

595
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, it smells like shit, but my god, is

596
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: a great town.

597
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: That should be the new logo instead an iHeart New

598
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: York smells like shit. My god, what a great fucking town.

599
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: Well, And like I think in terms of I was

600
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 1: in some genius that came up with this thing. By

601
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: the way, it's just sort of like I thought, Okay,

602
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: it's September. You know, maybe the weather's changing in some

603
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: parts of the country. You start getting that like little

604
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: brisk fall feeling in the air. And for whatever reason,

605
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: for when I was when I was younger, I was

606
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: always for what I don't know how this out, but

607
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: for some reason, I was always going to New York

608
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: in the fall, maybe because take us for cheaper, I

609
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: don't know, or maybe it's just such a great time

610
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: to go there. But for some reason, I always associate

611
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: fall with New York City. And then you just have

612
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: that feeling of ooh, it's fall. Like you're wearing a

613
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: little coat or a little cardigan and you're just feeling like,

614
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: I don't know, romance is in the air or something.

615
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: It's just a feeling, it really is, and it is

616
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: very unique to I think it's unique to New York

617
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: in the way that, you know, people equate springtime with

618
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: Paris or you know, even if they've never been there.

619
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: It's like there's a certain time of the year where

620
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: a city just kind of comes alive, and to me,

621
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: that's fall in New York. And the trees are changing

622
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: and it's like there's a Christmas and everyone's looking to

623
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: lock someone down for the winter, and yeah, it's just great.

624
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: It's just beautiful. So I'm glad we're doing this, and

625
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: I love our movies so much. This week I didn't

626
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 3: seen yours in a very, very, very long time. And

627
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: I also love that both of our Fall movies and

628
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: we kind of discussed this too when we were picking

629
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: this theme.

630
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: Is like we're looking at.

631
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: Older people who are in falling in love, which is

632
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: something you don't really get to see a lot in

633
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: film unless it's like, you know, an Indie film or

634
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 3: European film, like American made films. We don't really care

635
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: about older people falling in love unless it's we make

636
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: a joke out of it, like you know, Meryl Streep

637
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: and it's complicated or whatever.

638
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I definitely love that about our movies too,

639
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: And actually I have something to say about that at

640
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: some point when I go but it's, yeah, it's funny

641
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: because I want to say that in both of our movies,

642
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: the protagonist is like in their thirties, which to me

643
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: still feels like they're babies.

644
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: You know.

645
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: It's like the the concept of being like thirty seven

646
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: thirty nine seems so young to me, but also in

647
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: this context, in this era in Hollywood, like being thirty

648
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: nine and s was like basically being dead. Yeah you

649
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: know it's death. No, yeah, it is a It is

650
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: a middle aged woman who is single. And I think

651
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: both you know, our movies kind of address that obviously.

652
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I Also, I think it's interesting too. Upon

653
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: the rewatch of both of these films. I could be wrong,

654
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: but I know for your movie, for sure, I'm correct.

655
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: For my movie, I think I'm correct.

656
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but neither one of them will pass

657
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: the Bechdel test. Oh, every single time there's two women

658
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: on screen, they're talking about dudes, which is weird because again,

659
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: like that era.

660
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: Was very much you know, kind of focused on the.

661
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: Loneliness of the older single woman, older being like anything.

662
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: Older than twenty five.

663
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they kind of limit their lives in

664
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: a way. But I think that was just a cultural moment.

665
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: I don't think that these films do a disservice to

666
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: the women, yeah, that are in them. I just think

667
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: that it was It's strange. It's another strange cultural moment

668
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: to recognize that, like, oh yeah, this is pretty standard

669
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: back then that like women were always talking about dudes.

670
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: It was very hetero and very you know, focused on

671
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: finding love or discussing love or discussing men or you know.

672
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: It just kind of was an interesting, interesting little aside

673
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: for me this time.

674
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: Well, and like to that point, maybe what I the

675
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: other thing that this movie shares is that these are

676
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: movies about ethnicity. This is like, you know, Jewish people,

677
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: Italian people, and there's always that, there's always been I

678
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: think in both In both cases there's always been a

679
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of comedic trope about finding love and having really

680
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: pushy relatives and the whole you know this and that.

681
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: So I think that's also like a thing too that's

682
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: changed maybe, whereas you know, I don't know. I mean,

683
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are still immigrant parents who are trying

684
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: to get their kids married off with kids. Okay, should

685
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: we ever do that to you? Actually, no, there were

686
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: no arrangements made.

687
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: No.

688
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's funny. I was just talking

689
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: about this the other night with some friends of mine

690
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: who are a little bit younger than me, and they've

691
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: decided to not have children, and you know, their everybody

692
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: and their families are really pushing it. You know, I'm

693
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: obviously past the point of having kids. So at a

694
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: certain point, I think my parents were like, okay, cool,

695
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: we're not but they never really were. I was telling them,

696
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: I was like, my parents never really were. I think

697
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: they recognized that I was very ambitious and that I

698
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: had a lot of stuff to do when I was

699
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: just really kind of not interested in going there. And

700
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: plus when I was younger, I was always like wrapped

701
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: up in boys, and I think that they were horrified

702
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: by that, like, oh.

703
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: God, please, they're back towards academics or music or anything.

704
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Exactly, like we don't want these fucking bums hanging out

705
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: around like and they were, and they were pretty much

706
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: all white dudes. So they were basically like uh uh oh.

707
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: My granddad used to call He used to call me

708
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: out on that shit.

709
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we bring.

710
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: Another white boy around here, and I'm like, we're just friends.

711
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: He's like I don't give a shit what is going

712
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: on here? Like you just fucking focus on school it

713
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: Stop bringing these goddamn boys around. You don't need to

714
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: be friends with boys.

715
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my, Like to this day, I remember my

716
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: mom and dad basically like I'd bring these like white

717
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: stoner dudes to the house and they would like they

718
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: would like sometimes would fall asleep on the couch and

719
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: spend the night. And my Mom's like, you always got

720
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: these like boys sleeping on our couch and eat our groceries,

721
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: like what like what is this? What are you doing

722
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: with your life? And I'm like, so I'm just happy.

723
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: None of them were like you should marry this guy

724
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: and have kids. Yeah, leave these guys out of here

725
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: and go to college and get get a degree.

726
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 3: Like that was kind of like an inadvertently slick move

727
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: on your part where you're like, oh, yeah, I'll bring

728
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: some boys around. I'll bring like people who are like

729
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: River Phoenix and I love you to death.

730
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: And they were so terrified that they're like, we will

731
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: not push her, and this is what she's into. We're

732
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: not pushing marriage, children nothing. That was a very slick,

733
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 2: subconscious move on your part.

734
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I just had very low standards my

735
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: entire life, so they just they were like, well, we're

736
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: not going to force her in anything, because we don't

737
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: want this in our house. Okay, we want we.

738
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: Don't want this at Thanksgiving. We don't want we don't

739
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: want to have to buy the children of this relationship anything.

740
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: And he told me, oh.

741
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: Good, thankfully, I'm happy. I was very I'm very pleased

742
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: my parents. That is one thing that I have absolutely

743
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: loved about them my entire life is that they never

744
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: forced me to do anything I didn't want to do.

745
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: They never pressured me to go into, you know, any

746
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: area of life I didn't want to go to and

747
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: it's great. So I was watching these movies this week

748
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: going like, holy shit, wouldn't this be a nightmare?

749
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because in your movie particularly, it goes hard. Yeah,

750
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: oh real, real hard, and you're going first. So if

751
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: you want to jump in, go for it. Can't wait

752
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: to talk about these.

753
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, So my movie for the theme. Sorry,

754
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: every time I get set up for this theme and

755
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I start laughing, So I'm just trying to

756
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: my movie for the theme. Smells like Garbage Feels like

757
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: Love is a movie from nineteen eighty eight. It was

758
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: written by Susan Sandler and directed by Joan Micklan Silver

759
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: and it's called Crossing Delancey. You mad an appointment with

760
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: a marriage broker.

761
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: When I was your age, I was married, I had

762
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: a life, a dog alone.

763
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: I seem to remember at one point, like very early on,

764
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: I think we were like joking around about this movie

765
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: and you were like, don't tell me you're gonna like

766
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: make me watch Crossing Delancey or something like that. We

767
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: were just like joking, and so for some reason I

768
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: internalized that for many years.

769
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: So I did this to myself. Is what you're saying,

770
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: what it was like.

771
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: At some point this week, I was like watching this

772
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: movie again, and I'm like, I wonder if Danielle is

773
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: going crazy that you finally watched this movie. Okay.

774
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: I loved, loved, loved it.

775
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: Okay, good, good good.

776
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: I love the music, I loved the feeling, I loved

777
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 3: the New York of it.

778
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: It just it was great. It was great.

779
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: I was like, how how could she not? It's about

780
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: bookstores for christ Anyway. I so let me give you

781
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of background about Joan Micklin Silver,

782
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: just because she's sort of a famous female director and

783
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: she died fairly recently. So. She was born in the

784
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: thirties in Omaha, Nebraska. Her parents were Russian Jews, and

785
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: her Jewish identity I think would just be such a

786
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: huge part of her career, right. She made a lot

787
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: of movies about Judaism and the kind of Jewish Jewish experience.

788
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: When she first started out, she I had read that

789
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: she she had somehow befriended or met somebody that was

790
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: working on Sesame Street. And I guess this was in

791
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: the seventies when Sesame Street was fucking awesome. Damn yeah,

792
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: not to say it's not awesome now, but you know,

793
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, seven seventy Street, Yeah, I mean you.

794
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: Got one, two, three, four, fast, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

795
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: eleven twelve.

796
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: Like the fucking Pointer sisters were on Sesame Street.

797
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, which blew my mind when I found out

798
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: they did that song by the way.

799
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

800
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: But also just like I don't know, I I sort

801
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: of have this like romantic vision of Sesame Street in

802
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: the seventies because I would see pictures of like all

803
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: these old puppeteers and they're like bill Bottoms and they're

804
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: like turtlenecks and shit, and I'm like, wouldn't it be

805
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: like such an amazing job to be working for Sesame

806
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Street in the seventies. I don't know. So it's just it's.

807
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: Such a rule, there were no rules just right out.

808
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: So so Joan mclen silver somehow befriended, you know, somebody

809
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: that was working on Sesame Street, and then she got

810
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: into writing, you know, films for educational film companies, right

811
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: and kind that's kind of how she started making movies too,

812
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: is just kind of doing like educational films, and then

813
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: eventually in nineteen seventy five, she made her first feature

814
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: length film called Hester Street stars Carol Kine. If you

815
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: watch TCM sometimes it's playing, I'm just telling you it's

816
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: it's out there and it's a great movie. Like it's

817
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: about a Jewish family also living in the Lower East

818
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: Side of Manhattan. And you know, her first feature was awesome.

819
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: And then from that point she was making more and

820
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: more feature films before she had made Crossing de Lancey.

821
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because if you read about her during

822
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: this era, you know when she's getting her film career

823
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: started ball. So as she was kind of like moving

824
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: through the Hollywood system, she kind of famously had a

825
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: hard time because Hollywood was fucking up her screenplays and

826
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: movies like every female director we've ever talked about on

827
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: the podcast, right, And even though her husband was actually

828
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: pretty involved in her film career he produced a lot

829
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: of her films, she experienced a shit ton of misogyny,

830
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: which again, imagine that right from.

831
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: Top to bottom, I'm sure like producers, through to actors,

832
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: through to everyone.

833
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: And I read this interview with her, I think it's

834
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy nine, and she said that she recalls

835
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: the story about one of the studio execs that she

836
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: worked with. And this is a quote. This guy said,

837
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: quote feature films are very expensive to mount and distribute,

838
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: and women directors are one more problem we don't need.

839
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: And fuck off what.

840
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't even want to know.

841
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would have flipped a table full

842
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: of knives over on day this fucking dude.

843
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So imagine that this is the climate for women

844
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: making movies in the late seventies. Add to this this

845
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: idea that she was writing and making movies about Jewish

846
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: identity and stories about Jewish people. And I read that

847
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: when Crossing Delancey was coming along, she had said that

848
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: the studios were telling her it was quote unquote too ethnic.

849
00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, right, And it wasn't until Amy Irving, who

850
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: is the lead actress in Crossing de Lancey. It wasn't

851
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: until Amy Irving stepped in and basically said, oh wait,

852
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm married to Steven Spielberg.

853
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

854
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: And Steven Spielberg, of course, very much appreciated the Jewish

855
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: aspect of Crossing De Lancey. And that's how it got

856
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: off the ground, basically is because of their involvement.

857
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: You know, that is wild that it took.

858
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: And it's wild too that it took even though Amy

859
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: Irving is the one who got that ball rolling, that

860
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 3: it took a man, Steven Spielberg to stand up and say, hey,

861
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: I want to throw my weight behind.

862
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: This as well to get it solidified.

863
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: And that's that's true. Allyship is like, I don't want

864
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: your words, like, take some fucking action and help us

865
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: get shit done.

866
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: Right, And you know, so it's just, you know, she's

867
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: spoken a lot about that, Like if you go back

868
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: and you read interviews with Joan Micklin Silver and she's

869
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: sort of like things that she said in the press.

870
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: You know, she's very much like, yeah, it was rough

871
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: for me, which is unfortunate. But also the story that

872
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: we always tell whenever we talk about these female directors,

873
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: especially the ones that are working in the seventies and eighties, right,

874
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it was a fucking shit show

875
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: for them, and the idea that they actually made movies

876
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day is remarkable. So anyway,

877
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: all right, So I'm gonna do a one sentences of

878
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: synopsis of Crossing Delancey, an uptown single woman in her

879
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: mid thirties, debates whether or not she wants a data

880
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: man from the old neighborhood her bag. Right, So we

881
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: have Amy Irving. As we mentioned before, I think we

882
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: know who Amy Irving is. She's very famous. She was

883
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: most famously in Carrie, but also tons and tons of

884
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: other things. She is playing a character named Izzy short

885
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: for Isabella. She works at this very prestigious, slightly stuffy

886
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: and pretentious bookstore in Manhattan, and she basically runs this

887
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: acclaimed series at the bookstore, which is, you know, bringing

888
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: in all these famous writers and you know, and it's

889
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: a beloved thing that people come to and she gets

890
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: a lot of mileage out of that. She loves her career.

891
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: She's single, she loves her life. It's like she's kind

892
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: of living in like what uptown New York.

893
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Upper West Side probably.

894
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: Right, And it's like and she loves her friends and

895
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: their modern and they're cool, and she's just kind of

896
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: living this like great single life. And you know, she

897
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: at one point has this speech that she gives her bubby,

898
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about Bubby obviously in just a second.

899
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: But you know, she's sort of like, why do I

900
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: want a man? I Like, I know all these great

901
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: women they are all like successful and have careers, and

902
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm totally satisfied and I'm, you know, just because I'm

903
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: like thirty four or whatever, thirty five and single, Like

904
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: why would I want to give up what I have?

905
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: You know? And there's she she doesn't tell this to Bubby,

906
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: but she's also got a fuck buddy, which is like

907
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 2: get a.

908
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Girl, yeah, yeah, and and and that's the thing. So

909
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: she's kind of not in a serious mode when it

910
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: comes to dating, right. She's got this like kind of

911
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: side piece guy who was apparently just a friend of

912
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: hers who was married actually, but he seems to kind

913
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: of come around when he's having fights with his wife. Duh.

914
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: But that doesn't seem very serious obviously to her. And

915
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: then she has this crush on one of the writers

916
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: that she works with at the bookstore. He's kind of

917
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: this current it author type of guy, and his name

918
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: is Anton Mays and he's played by this act your

919
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: own Krabbe. It's Dutch, by the way, that's if I

920
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: if I slaughtered that, I apologize. He actually he was

921
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: in a lot of early Paul Verhoven movies, so but anyway,

922
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: he plays this character Anton Mays. I actually know the

923
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: actor as the violin playing asshole husband of Barbar Streisan

924
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: from the Prince of Tides. Yes, so that's that's essentially

925
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: the same character he's playing and crossing de Lancey. He

926
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: plays this like intellectual European asshole guy. And I think

927
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: that that he either played villains or he played that

928
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: guy a lot in his career. And he's still alive.

929
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: And apparently he's a famous painter.

930
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

931
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's you know, living in Europe and apparently

932
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: his art is on Sam in the Netherlands or something.

933
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: It's amazing. But anyway, so Anton mays he just wrote

934
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: this book called The Cave Dweller and Izzy is promoting

935
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: it at the bookstore. And like I said, I don't

936
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: have to tell you, Anton is this like ladies man type.

937
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: He's very full of himself and he's like one of

938
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: those guys that like puts on the charm and you know,

939
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: sort of quotes literature and he's this like romantic poetic guy.

940
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: It's all game, all game.

941
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: He's also really mean to women, like oh, he's just

942
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: very at least i'll say he's dismissive of women.

943
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Right. He has this habit of sleeping with all of

944
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: his assistants, and all of these assistants are young women, right,

945
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: It's like I think we know the type. And of

946
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: course Izzy is just enchanted by this guy because he's

947
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: this kind of like intellectual sort of like you know,

948
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: he's adjacent to this world that she's in, and she

949
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, has this bit of a crush on him.

950
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately, between him and this married guy

951
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: that comes over once in a while, she's just not

952
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: seriously dating. I mean, these are all unavailable men, and

953
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't think she really cares at the end of

954
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: the day. Meanwhile, she's she's she visits her grandma, her

955
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: bubby in the old neighborhood on the Lower East Side,

956
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: and this is like where she's from, right, because it's

957
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: a primarily Jewish neighborhood, and you know, this is kind

958
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: of like her origin story, right, And of course her

959
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: bubby is constantly scheming to try to set her up

960
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: with Jewish men. Her bubby brings over her friend Hannah,

961
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: who is a marriage broker. Essentially, Hannah is incredible, and

962
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: she like, I mean it is like a professional matchmaking,

963
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't you know, It's not like the millionaire

964
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: matchmaker on Bravo. It's just like that, like two old ladies,

965
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: one of whom has a rolodex of business cards and

966
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: wallet sized photos of single guys.

967
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: It's like that this analog fucking matchmaking.

968
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: Again. It's like, where are you getting these wallet sized

969
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: photos of people? And you're just handing them out to

970
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: strangers being like date my daughter.

971
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: Well, that's just it. Their families are handing them out.

972
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: Their families are like, take this picture.

973
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: We know you're a matchmaker if you find anyone for

974
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: my boy here from a girl.

975
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: That's what I was.

976
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: That was the moment that I was like, I am

977
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: so happy my fucking parents never meddled in the dating totally,

978
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: because I'd be like getting those like oln Mills sheets

979
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: of wallet sized photos and they're just cutting them out

980
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: at the kitchen table being like, all right, we got

981
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: a stack of these. We're just handing them out to men,

982
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: like let's just pimpern on or out of and in

983
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: any way we.

984
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: Can just sending them out like pen Pales style, Like

985
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: this is Milly, she's.

986
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: Twenty seven, she has a good job. Good yeah, because

987
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: bub Bubby's be scheming. Bubby's be scheming.

988
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: So what happens pretty much immediately is that Bubby and

989
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Hannah decide they want to fix Izzy up with the

990
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: pickle man.

991
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 2: They're good pickles. What are you gonna do? Right, They're

992
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: good pickles, and he's Peter Reager. What are you gonna do?

993
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: I know?

994
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: And like.

995
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: I think everybody I know has a crush on the

996
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: pickle man has a crush on Peter Riegert. As Sam

997
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: Posner like men and women, this Pickleman cannot be denied. Ah,

998
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: He's fantastic. And the backstory with the pickleman Sam right,

999
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: he is the son of the former pickle man who

1000
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: passed away. So Sam, I think that the story suggests

1001
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: that Sam was in college, she went, he was doing,

1002
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, working in the private sector, and then his

1003
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: father dies and then he's he's now taken over as

1004
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: the new pickleman, right, and he's he's, you know, basically

1005
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: out there on the street in the Lower east Side

1006
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: shoving his hands in the pickle barrels and putting them

1007
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: into jars for people. And this is his job now.

1008
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: Bare hands in an open vat in the Lower east Side.

1009
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: Like I am crawling with bacteria just thinking about it. Oh,

1010
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: I know that's how it used to be.

1011
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: Yes, But Sam, Okay, he's smart, he's handsome, he's thoughtful,

1012
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: he's poetic actually in his own way, right, which is

1013
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: like so funny because that's the thing that Izzy thinks

1014
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: is so enchanting about this fucking Anton. But then you're like,

1015
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: but Sam is actually really smart and cool and amazing too, right.

1016
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 3: Sam is everything. Sam is truly and innately everything that

1017
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: Anton is pretending to be exactly.

1018
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: He's soul full and real. And everyone loves the pickle man.

1019
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: I love the pickle Man.

1020
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: I know people be out here, like truly focusing too

1021
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: much on the package and missing that that layer of

1022
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: what's underneath. And I think that a lot of people

1023
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: like it made me think of you know, of course

1024
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 3: what was going on in the movie and during this time,

1025
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: but also in present day, Like, I think a lot

1026
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: of people focus so much on who they think they

1027
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: should be with, what kind of person they think they

1028
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: should be with, instead of looking at like, well, who

1029
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: actually can give me these things? It might not come

1030
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: in the package I was expecting, but it's just a

1031
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 3: lot of people believing a lot of meat on the bone.

1032
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, absolutely, and That's the thing ultimately, because

1033
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: as much as we all love the pickle Man and

1034
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: that we think Izzy should fucking marry this guy, the

1035
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: minute she meets him, she's got it get there on

1036
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: her own, in her own way, right. It's like the

1037
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: chief situation with this is that he's from the old neighborhood,

1038
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, in her eyes, he's like a simpler kind

1039
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: of guy, like Danielle is in the nursing home. He's

1040
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: helping out all the old folks in the neighborhood. He's

1041
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: like dusting their windows, and he's going to baseball games

1042
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, when it comes down to it,

1043
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: he is not in her world, which which is this

1044
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: other world that she's in the uptown intellectual set, right,

1045
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: And it got me thinking about There was a movie

1046
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: that came out recently. I don't know if you saw

1047
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: it. It was called Past Lives, directed by Selene song Right.

1048
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: It literally just came out, like I don't know, a

1049
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: couple months ago. That movie absolutely wrecked me, by the way.

1050
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody has seen it, but it

1051
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: like I shut it too, shut down, Yes, absolutely, I was.

1052
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: I was crying so hard by that movie. I was

1053
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: in the lobby after the film with the people that

1054
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: I came with, two of whom I don't super know

1055
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: very well, and I was literally like, I cannot break

1056
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: down in front of these people, Like I felt so

1057
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: embarrassed that I was like, I was literally sobbing, and

1058
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to go to the bathroom.

1059
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: Just run in the bathroom, get it out of your

1060
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: system so you can face these strangers not crying from

1061
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: this fucking movie. This movie wrecked me anyway. But Past

1062
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: Lives actually kind of reminds me tiny bit of Crossing

1063
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: Delancey in that that movie is also about a woman

1064
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: who is more or less caught in between these two worlds, right,

1065
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's a racial ethnic quandary. It's like this

1066
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: woman originally from Korea, she's now in America and she's

1067
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: got this American life, this sheic world where she's a

1068
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: writer and she dates, you know, a white guy and everything.

1069
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: But then she meets you know, she meets up with

1070
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: this old flame of hers from Korea, from the old neighborhood,

1071
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, what would it be like

1072
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: to go back to that? And you know, he's the

1073
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: pickleman of Past lives. He's basically that person. So I

1074
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just like this, I this story I

1075
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: think is so fascinating. And I don't know if it's

1076
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: just because of my own shit, of my own identity

1077
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: and AMERICANUS or whatever, but like, you know, that idea

1078
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: of somebody who straddles the line between these two worlds,

1079
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: and like what is expected of me? And can I

1080
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: date the pickle guy? He's like too Jewish for me,

1081
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: And I'm now this like uptown lady with this fancy

1082
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: job and what would that look like? But you know

1083
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: is he protests like a lot during the course of

1084
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: this movie, and like he she even like tries to

1085
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: set Sam up with one of her friends, and then

1086
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: she finds like she's kind of jealous that they're getting along.

1087
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: So it's complicated. And the entire time Sam is telling

1088
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: her pretty much directly, I like you, I would definitely

1089
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: be a good boyfriend, but you have to get over

1090
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: your bullshit about me being the pickleman. You just have to.

1091
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: And I'm just I'm loving this pickleman troupe that you

1092
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: are creating, let's say, stock character for me in my life,

1093
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: Like the pickleman character, I loved that scene so much

1094
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: where she tries to set him up with her friend

1095
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: and then she has the slow realization of like, he

1096
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: is a great guy and she's even though she in

1097
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: that moment is like, oh I like this dude, she

1098
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: still can't get there enough to express her feelings.

1099
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And it is agonizing for all of us

1100
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: watching this movie, right because guess what, Anton is just

1101
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: such a shit. Like there was this scene that I'm

1102
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: sure I don't know it was probably not a throwaway

1103
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 1: scene because Joan Micklan Silver seems to be a very

1104
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: intelligent person. But like, there's a scene where Izzy Anton

1105
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: and one of Anton's little flings is are They're all

1106
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: walking down the street together and Anton sort of edges

1107
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: Izzy off the sidewalk and he makes her crash into

1108
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: a garbage can and he doesn't even care.

1109
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: Oh, he doesn't even stop.

1110
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't stop.

1111
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: It's the assistant who stops, and it's like, hey, are

1112
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: you okay?

1113
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that scene pisses me off so much. And again

1114
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: it's a very subtle scene, but like it just communicates

1115
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: kind of everything about who he is. And absolutely you're like,

1116
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: you don't want a guy who's gonna make you walk

1117
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: into a fucking garbage can and not even care.

1118
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's oblivious to your needs, to your basic

1119
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: needs as a human being, Like he's not even paying

1120
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: attention to you enough to notice that you're about to

1121
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: walk off the street or off the side, walking into

1122
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: the street, or into a literal pile of trash.

1123
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: Right, And I think it obviously at some point comes

1124
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: to a head. I won't tell you exactly how. And

1125
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: I will also say that this is a romantic comedy.

1126
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: I think we know how it might end, right, But

1127
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: I love these kinds of films. Okay, this movie is

1128
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: so cozy. It's a drama romance about adults, you know.

1129
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: And I used to think that I don't know. Fairly recently,

1130
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: I was like obviously thinking to myself, Hollywood sucks. They

1131
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: only make movies for They make movies for adults, but

1132
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: the adults have the brains of twelve year olds. It's

1133
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: what I was telling myself, right, And so whenever you

1134
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: see a movie about actual adults, you're like, holy fucking shit.

1135
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: And then something like Past Lives will come out, or

1136
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: even like the Nicole halaffen Center movie that came out

1137
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: a few months ago you heard my feelings. Yeah, and

1138
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, these are the fucking movies for me, right,

1139
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: these are the movies for people my age. I love them.

1140
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: They're not. It's just a very simple concept. It's about

1141
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: relationships about peoples and personalities and friendships, and that's the

1142
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: shit that I love, you know, absolutely, and also not

1143
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: for nothing. I love eighties movies about people who work

1144
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: in publishing, Like did that not feel like such an

1145
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: eighties movie thing? By the way, we're like every protagonist

1146
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: was a writer like yah, or they were booked bookstore

1147
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: adjacent person exactly.

1148
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: It's like bookstores publishing like or art like they're there

1149
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: at art a gallerist books in selling books or books

1150
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: in in in publishing books.

1151
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there was always like the editor side character

1152
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: who's like a total wackadoo, Like, wasn't that happening in

1153
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: The Fly? I was thinking about The Fly? I was like, yeah,

1154
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: And I just am like, has anybody written about this

1155
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: about the idea that publishing and art collection were just

1156
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: like two professions in every eighties movie that people.

1157
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: Have you got a substack write it up?

1158
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, I do have a substack. I

1159
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: will write that all my substack. I forgot I add

1160
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: that thing.

1161
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: Yes, everyone should be signing up for it too, but

1162
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: you gotta substack. You write it, I.

1163
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: Will write it. I will thank you for telling me

1164
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: to do that. But listen. Just to wrap up, I

1165
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: love this movie. I love the world, I love the characters.

1166
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: I think it's just such a slow, wonderful, cozy film.

1167
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: Not for nothing, the haughty David Hyde Pieris plays one

1168
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: of Izzy's coworkers in the bookstore. And then maybe my

1169
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: favorite scene in the whole movie is the one where

1170
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: Bubby is taking an old lady self defense class at

1171
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: the community center. It's it's so good, it's so good.

1172
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: That actually is what I think about when you tell

1173
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: me stories of seeing your grandma, as I imagine that happening.

1174
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: Ah, not far off, not far off.

1175
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: I want to see these women in wheelchairs like trying

1176
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: to grab purses from each other and like pretending to be,

1177
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, criminals or whatever.

1178
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: It's so funny.

1179
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: That scene was so fucking funny, And I also love,

1180
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's something obviously dear to my own heart,

1181
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 3: but I love the relationship that she has with her grandmother,

1182
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: and that that was also something that was very normal

1183
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: and is very culturally normal in certain sex, is that

1184
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: you do care for your elders, and you do. You

1185
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: are still in their life, and they are still in

1186
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: your life, you know, as you age and get older.

1187
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: And so I just I love that their relationship was

1188
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: so tender and she was like, you know, plucking her

1189
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: chin hairs, and they talk to each other like real people,

1190
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: like real adults. Like she didn't infantalize her, she didn't

1191
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 3: listen to her when it came to dating, but she

1192
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: didn't infantilize her granddaughter. And you also get to learn

1193
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 3: a lot about what Bubby's life is like, like what

1194
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 3: is it like to be, you know, a retired elderly

1195
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 3: woman living in New York City and you know, going

1196
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 3: through the shopping in the neighborhood and seeing who she

1197
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 3: talks to, And like, I just I love all that.

1198
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: I love that so much, Oh my.

1199
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: God, And like that's that's really I think when, at

1200
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: least for me, you really fall in love with the

1201
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: pickleman because he's so nice to her, Bubby exactly, and

1202
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah, effortless, get over anton, get with

1203
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: the pickleman.

1204
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: Come on, why do we love these bad dudes, these

1205
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: bad dudes.

1206
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, she's just kind of enchanted by the life

1207
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: she's trying to build for so long that I think

1208
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: it's hard for her to dismantle her own her own

1209
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: desires because they're so they're so intertwined, you know, like

1210
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: working at this bookstore and hosting this the most popular

1211
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 3: reading series in the city, and dating like it's.

1212
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: All intertwined for her.

1213
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 3: So it's you're kind of watching her dismantle her own

1214
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 3: hypothesis about what her life should be, which is I.

1215
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: Love Yeah, I love this movie.

1216
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: Me too, I'm so glad. I'm so glad speaking of love.

1217
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh my fucking love your movie so much.

1218
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: I know, I know, it's killer.

1219
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: My pick for the theme, Smells like Garbage Feels Like

1220
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 3: Love was released in nineteen eighty seven. It was written

1221
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: by John Patrick Shanley. It was directed by Norman Jewison.

1222
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 3: My movie is Moonstruck.

1223
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: Oh God, okay, I don't care, I don't can't take me.

1224
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: Laluna, people craze it make a people crazy. That would

1225
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: be That's what my grandmother would say in that accent.

1226
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: La luon, oh God, I love this movie so fucking much.

1227
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: Everyone knows or most people know that this is the

1228
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 3: movie that got share and Oscar win also. Olimpia Dukakis

1229
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: also won for Best Supporting Actress and John Patrick Shanley

1230
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,479
Speaker 3: won for Best Screenplay when this film came out.

1231
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: And we've talked about John Patrick Shanley before. He's a

1232
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: prolific writer.

1233
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: He's written several wonderful films and he does plays all

1234
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: kinds of things. But we haven't ever talked about Norman Jewison,

1235
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: who is just an incredibly prolific director. So Norman Jewison

1236
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 3: is still alive. First and foremost, he's a Canadian director.

1237
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: He shares something with Joan Micklan Silver, which is that

1238
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 3: he also got his start in children's television but for

1239
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: the BBC, so he would kind of direct and work

1240
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 3: behind the scenes on some children's TV shows. But he

1241
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: went on to just become this award winning director who

1242
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 3: made so many of your favorite favorite films, including but

1243
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: not limited to Agnes of God, Jesus Christ, Superstar, Fiddler

1244
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: on the Roof, in the Heat of the Night, the

1245
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: Thomas Crown Affair, the Cincinnati Kid. I mean, he just

1246
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: did it all. He had such and he had such

1247
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: a like in the course of his life, I think

1248
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: because of how he was raised in what was important

1249
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: to him, he always focused on diversity and identity and

1250
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: most of his films so it was a big part

1251
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 3: of his creative life to kind of look at segregation

1252
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 3: and just things that were that he noticed in his

1253
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 3: own life that didn't sit well with him.

1254
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: So please, if you haven't already like.

1255
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 3: You should watch some Norman Jewis in movies, including this one,

1256
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 3: which is probably one of my favorite of his and

1257
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: just a favorite in general. My one sentence synopsis of Moonstruck,

1258
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 3: a thirty seven year old widow who feels cursed with

1259
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: bad luck has her life turned around by an unlikely

1260
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: encounter with her fiance's estranged.

1261
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 2: Brother, Herfection.

1262
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: So our protagonist in this film is Loretta Castarini Clark

1263
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: played by Cher And they when I tell you that,

1264
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 3: my jaw dropped when at one point in the movie

1265
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: they referred to her as a thirty seven year old.

1266
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1267
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 3: I was shocked because even when I first saw this

1268
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: movie in the eighties, I'm like, oh, well, she's like

1269
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: in her fifties. Yeah, she's an old lady by eighty standards. Yeah,

1270
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: she's in her fifties, but she's thirty seven. She works

1271
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: at a funeral home. She lives in Brooklyn or with her.

1272
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: He lives in Brooklyn with her mom, her dad, her

1273
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 3: grandfather and his five dogs.

1274
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: This grandfather, can I just say, oh my god. First

1275
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: of all, I love the like umberto d ness of

1276
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: the old Italian guy with his dogs. That just is

1277
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: like so wonderful. But I have to say he reminded

1278
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: me of my own grandfather, like just the really oh

1279
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: just the way he talked and the things that he said,

1280
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: and he was kind of like man a few words,

1281
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: but then when he said something it was like very

1282
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: profound and interesting and just like even the way they dressed.

1283
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: Like obviously, like my family's from Italy. So it's just

1284
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: I always hone in on the cultural stuff about Moonstruck.

1285
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: But it was like it made me miss my grandpa.

1286
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: I was so yeah, just really really made me miss him.

1287
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: So anyway, he's such a sweetheart, like so funny. It's

1288
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: such a sweetheart in this movie, and you're right, like

1289
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: he definitely is the embodiment of that like like Italian

1290
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: grandpa character, and.

1291
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: He loves Loretta.

1292
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: They have a great relationship, but part of The reason

1293
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 3: she lives at home is because she is a widow.

1294
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: So her husband, we come to find out later, was

1295
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: hit by a bus, but she thinks that when they're

1296
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 3: talking about it, she's like, he was hit by a bus,

1297
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 3: Like did he die right away? Oh, instantaneously. It's just

1298
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: so fucking funny. The pace of this movie is hilarious.

1299
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: It's a rom com but it's actually and it's kind

1300
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: of like a dramatic romance, but it's really to me

1301
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 3: a comedy first and foremost. So she thinks she has

1302
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 3: bad luck and it kind of was kicked off by

1303
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: the fact that she and her husband, her dead husband,

1304
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 3: had their wedding at City Hall and they didn't have,

1305
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: you know, like a big ceremony. They didn't, she wasn't

1306
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 3: given away. She just thinks she did it all wrong.

1307
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: So that's why he died and she's cursed. So when

1308
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: her boyfriend Johnny Camerery, who's played by Danny A. Yello,

1309
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 3: who I also thought was like born at age fifty.

1310
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: Five, Oh, I know, and I forgot too that maybe

1311
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: like right before, either before or around the same time.

1312
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: He was in the Papa Don't Preach video. Yes, the

1313
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: Madonna video, and I just kept thinking, Oh, this is

1314
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: the Danny Iello I remember from childhood Moonstruck and Papa

1315
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: don't preach completely.

1316
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: Oh he had a look. He had a look for sure.

1317
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 3: When you say Danny I Yello, a very specific image

1318
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 3: pops in your head. So he's her boyfriend, and when

1319
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: he proposes, he just kind of blurts it out there

1320
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 3: at this restaurant, he's kind of blurts it out and

1321
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: she insists that he gets.

1322
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: Down on one knee.

1323
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 3: He didn't bring a ring, so she insists that he

1324
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 3: give her his pinky ring. And she's like, yeah, I'll

1325
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: do it, like i'll marry you, but you gotta do

1326
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: it right. And so she's on her way to take

1327
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: him to the airport to drop him off, which is

1328
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: so funny because he's he's going to Italy because his

1329
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 3: mother is on her deathbed, and there's this.

1330
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: There's no, it's okay, I'm not being crassed by laughing

1331
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: about this woman being on her deathbed. By the way.

1332
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: No, it's a very very funny scene when he actually

1333
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: gets there. Yeah, but it's kind of funny that she

1334
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: says when they're in the restaurant ordering, She's like now

1335
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: order the Manicatti because it gives you a base for

1336
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: your stomach. I've never in my life a thought of

1337
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 2: Manicatti as a base.

1338
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: That is instant diarrhea town for my stomic because oh

1339
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: my god, the cheese. Oh man, it's so much going.

1340
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: That's a full meal. That's not a base, but it's

1341
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: the Rikata. I could never do the Ricanta. It just away.

1342
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: Well, I love a good Manicotte, though I love a

1343
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: good man Agute. But he's on his way to Italy.

1344
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: His mother's dying, and in there, they're in the car

1345
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 3: and she's already freaking out about the wedding, and he's like,

1346
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: She's like, what are we gonna get married?

1347
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: We need a date. We need to set a date.

1348
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: And he's like, all right, we can do it when

1349
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 2: I get back.

1350
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 3: My mom's got like two weeks tops, which is just

1351
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 3: this conversation is hilarious. So they make a plan to

1352
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 3: get married in a month when he gets back. After

1353
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: his mother dies, and as he's getting on the plane,

1354
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 3: right before he boards the plane, he goes, oh, by

1355
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: the way, can you do one thing for me? Can

1356
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: you call this number and ask my brother to come

1357
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 3: to our wedding. We haven't spoken in five years, and

1358
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 3: you're like, all right, what the fuck's going on there?

1359
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 3: I also love this scene because as she's watching the

1360
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 3: plane take off, she's standing next to an old lady

1361
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 3: who's like, hey, you got someone you love on that plane,

1362
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 3: and she's like, yeah, my fiance. She's like, oh, I

1363
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 3: put a curse on that plane.

1364
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: My fucking sister's on it. She's sow, my man, she

1365
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 2: goes on this tirade. She's like, I hope it crashes

1366
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: into the fucking watery deeps, Like she put a curse

1367
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 2: on that plane.

1368
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,879
Speaker 1: Dude. So funny. It's so funny.

1369
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,440
Speaker 2: It's the greatest.

1370
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: And so when Loretta gets home, she you know, it's late,

1371
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: but she tells her dad the news. Her dad, who's

1372
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 3: played by Vincent Gardenia. You would definitely recognize him on site,

1373
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 3: your dad Cosmo, and he his reaction to her news

1374
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 3: of I'm getting married is so fucking funny because he's like,

1375
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: don't do it. I don't like his lips.

1376
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: He's like he doesn't like Johnny at all. He thinks

1377
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: Johnny's a baby.

1378
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 3: And come to find out, her dad, who's a plumber,

1379
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 3: is actually having an affair, but we'll get to that

1380
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: in a moment. But he just is like, don't get married,

1381
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: like you're cursed. I agree with you, You're fucking curse.

1382
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: Don't do it.

1383
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 3: But then they go upstairs wake up her mom and

1384
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 3: tell her mom she's getting married, and her mom first

1385
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: and foremost, pops her eyes open and goes who died,

1386
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 3: which is like such a mom thing, of course, like

1387
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 3: why you waken me up?

1388
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: Who died? And then she asks her do you love him?

1389
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: And Loretta says no, but I like him, and she's like,

1390
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 3: oh good, because love makes you crazy, Like I'm just

1391
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: so fucking funny. And then later on we also learned

1392
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 3: that her mom played by Olivia Dukakis, who plays Rose,

1393
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 3: that Rose actually knows that her husbands cheating on her.

1394
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 3: So there's this very interesting storyline that emerges in a

1395
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: way that I think John Patrick Shanley is uniquely qualified

1396
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 3: to do, which is where he takes us from the

1397
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: central love story into how love and romance affects everyone,

1398
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 3: like all of the people in the cast. So her

1399
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,839
Speaker 3: family's like, ah, I'm not really into it. Granddad's fucking hilarious,

1400
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 3: Granda's letting his dog piss on graves and all and

1401
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 3: howling at the moon, and all he cares about is

1402
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: that like, his son should pay for the wedding. He's like,

1403
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 3: Lorett's dad should pay for the wedding.

1404
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Yes.

1405
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: So then we have Loretta go to meet Ronnie. First,

1406
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: she tries to call him and he hangs up on her,

1407
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 3: so she goes to the Camerery Brothers Bakery where Ronnie works,

1408
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 3: and he's working in the bowels of the bakery in

1409
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 3: the oven. And I love how Nicholas Cage, who plays

1410
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 3: Ronnie is presented in this film because when you first

1411
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: see him, when he's on the phone with her, you

1412
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 3: only see his back and he's in like a white

1413
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 3: tank top and he's sweating in front of an oven.

1414
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 3: But you don't see his face. You only see his back,

1415
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: and you hear his voice you see him on the phone.

1416
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 3: Then when he actually turns around, when you actually meet

1417
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 3: him for real, when he's meeting Loretta and she's like, hey,

1418
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 3: come to my wedding. Your brother Johnny's getting married, and

1419
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: he's like instant intensity. He's like, Johnny took my life

1420
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 3: from me, and you're like, what the fuck? And so

1421
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 3: he is it is just fucking incredible. He tells this

1422
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: story about how Johnny came into the bakery for some

1423
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 3: bread one day and Ronnie got distracted turned his head

1424
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: and his hand got caught in the slicer and he

1425
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 3: lost his fingers and because he was maimed, his fiance

1426
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 3: left him. So for five years he hasn't talked to

1427
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 3: his He has no fingers on one of his hand.

1428
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: He has like a wooden.

1429
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 3: Hand, and he is like pachee Chi levels of shouting

1430
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 3: about it. He says some of my favorite lines from

1431
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: any film in this scene where he's.

1432
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: Just and Laretta is like, what the fuck did I

1433
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: just walk into? I don't know what the fuck you're

1434
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 2: talking about, But he's like, I shovel dough in this

1435
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: hot hole in the wall. One of my favorites is

1436
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: when he shouts at Chrissy, who's the woman who works

1437
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: upstairs in the bakery. He's like, Chrissy, bring me the

1438
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 2: big knife. I'm gonna cut my fucking throat. She's like,

1439
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: I won't do it. I won't do it. Roddy, oh

1440
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: my good so and it's just like builds an intensity

1441
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 2: and builds, and then he says, possibly one of my

1442
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: favorite lines of all time. At one point when I

1443
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: had an answering machine, this was my message.

1444
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 3: I recorded it from the video that I was watching.

1445
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 3: When you start screaming, oh I lost.

1446
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: My hand, Oh I lost my bride, Johnny's bride.

1447
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: You want me to take my heart break put her

1448
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: away and forgot it.

1449
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 3: It's just building in this intensity and Loretta's like, what

1450
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: the fuck is your problem? Let's go talk some way,

1451
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: like I'm sorry your hand is all sliced uff, but

1452
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 3: can we talk like real people.

1453
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: He's full of passion, baby, uh got that wooden thing

1454
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: like just like in the air. Been like, ah, it's

1455
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: such a good oh my god, such an iconic good scene.

1456
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: It's like epic Nicholas cage roll. I just love it.

1457
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: It's truly epic. Truly, it's so good. And they do

1458
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: they go up. He's like, She's like, where do you live?

1459
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 2: And he says, you expect He's the kind.

1460
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 3: Of guy that you expect him to just like point

1461
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 3: to a hole in the wall next to an oven

1462
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 3: and be like, I live in there, but he lives upstairs.

1463
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 3: So so they go up to his apartment and Loretta

1464
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: makes him a stake and it's just this really hilarious

1465
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: conversation where they're trying to like tell each other who

1466
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 3: they think they are. So she's like, you're like a

1467
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: wolf who bit his own handoff to get out of

1468
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 3: this bad relationship.

1469
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: And it ends with them shouting like.

1470
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 6: You're a bride without a head, You're a wolf without

1471
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 6: a foot.

1472
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 3: Like it's just they're just shouting at each other and

1473
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 3: explaining how they see each other, but it's full of

1474
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: passion and they kiss each.

1475
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 2: Other and then they fuck.

1476
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: And again this is Johnny's brother, her fiance's brother, and

1477
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: they fuck. So during the same night, we're watching her parents,

1478
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: Cosmo and Rose have dinner at home and we get

1479
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: to meet her aunt and uncle and everyone's kind of

1480
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: like talking about love and how they met, and they

1481
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 3: look at the moon and it's it's the moon is huge,

1482
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: and come to find out, it's like it's a fuck

1483
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 3: moon because the aunt and uncle go and get it

1484
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: on and he goes crazy, like he loses his fucking mind.

1485
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 3: After that, you see him the next day at work

1486
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 3: and he's like, ah, like he had sex.

1487
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 2: He's losing his mind.

1488
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 3: But Loretta is also looking at this moon and just

1489
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 3: kind of like, I don't know. It's just kind of

1490
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: like a really tender story and moment that you have

1491
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 3: to watch to kind of understand the basis of why

1492
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 3: the moon is so important in this moment. But the

1493
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 3: next morning all hell breaks loose. So next morning they're

1494
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 3: both like both Loretta and Ronnie are screaming at each

1495
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: other like you ruined my life, and he says I

1496
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 3: love you, and she smacks him and says, snap out

1497
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 3: of it. And it's a very famous scene, and she's

1498
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 3: like getting dressed in a closet, so she's basically like,

1499
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 3: we got we can't do this, This can't happen. And

1500
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 3: Ronnie's like, all right, look, if you come to the

1501
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: opera with me, I will leave you alone because there's

1502
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 3: two things I love most in the world.

1503
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:35,839
Speaker 2: Are you an opera?

1504
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 3: So they're going to see La Bom at the Met.

1505
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 3: And one thing that's so charming to me about this

1506
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 3: scene is she looks at him and she says, where's

1507
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 3: the Met? And this is a lifelong New Yorker who

1508
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 3: grew up in Brooklyn, but that's just how her life.

1509
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 3: It just emphasizes what her life actually is. She's not

1510
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 3: like rolling around Manhattan she's not Oaklynn is her home.

1511
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 3: That is where she lives, that is where she does everything.

1512
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 3: She has no idea how to even get to the men.

1513
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not easy. Izzy would have definitely known where

1514
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: the met is. This is. Loretta is not not that character.

1515
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 3: No, and she's just so and she's just lived like

1516
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 3: a very small life up to this point, not just geographically,

1517
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 3: but like, you know, her husband died and she kind

1518
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 3: of locked herself away and just thought she didn't really

1519
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,799
Speaker 3: deserve anything. She didn't deserve to, you know, look pretty

1520
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: or do anything. So even though she's really tough and funny,

1521
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 3: she just kind of she's limited herself. And so this

1522
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: burst of passion from her with Ronnie is surprising to her,

1523
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 3: but it also feels really good, and so of course,

1524
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 3: like any good Catholic, she feels guilty because she feels good.

1525
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 2: So she goes to confession right away.

1526
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 3: She's like, all right, I took a Laura's name in Vain,

1527
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 3: I slept with my fiance's brother, and I bounced a check.

1528
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 3: And the priest is like, wait, back up, back up

1529
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 3: to that second one. And he's like, well, you know,

1530
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 3: you should figure it out, and kind of gives her

1531
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 3: the two, but then she sees her mom also in

1532
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 3: the church, and this scene is so tender and weird too,

1533
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: like I just love it where her mom is like,

1534
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: your father's cheating, Like I know he's cheating, and Loretta

1535
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 3: doesn't want to believe it. She's like nah, like there's

1536
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 3: something else going on. But you just see the pain

1537
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 3: in Olympia Dacaucus's face, and like h Rose is really

1538
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 3: grappling with what do I do, Like at this age,

1539
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: at the stage of my life, my husband's cheating, and

1540
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 3: you know what am I supposed to do about it?

1541
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: We have a whole life together, we have a house,

1542
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 3: Like what am I supposed to do?

1543
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: But we move.

1544
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 3: That kind of comes to a head in a very

1545
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 3: unexpected way because when Loretta goes to the opera with Ronnie,

1546
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 3: and it's lovely and so romantic and beautiful, and she's

1547
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 3: crying at one point in the hold hands. It's just

1548
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 3: it's so sweet. And then during intermission she she comes

1549
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 3: out and sees her father and her father is there

1550
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 3: on a date with this woman that he's dating, that

1551
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 3: he's been with, but she's also been caught because she

1552
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 3: is with Ronnie and he knows that's not her fiance,

1553
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: so they've kind of caught each other at the opera.

1554
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 3: And at the same moment, Rose goes out to dinner

1555
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 3: and you know, by herself, at the same restaurant that

1556
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 3: we saw in the beginning of the film, and she

1557
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 3: sees a man that we saw at the beginning of

1558
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 3: the film who's played by John Mahoney, this guy Perry.

1559
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 3: And when we first meet Perry, a woman is throwing

1560
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: a glass of wine on him, and it happens again

1561
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: in this scene, except Rose actually talks to him and

1562
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 3: she's like, what the fuck's going on? Come sit with

1563
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 3: me and have dinner, and they kind of strike up

1564
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 3: a little romantic intensity, and you're kind of wondering, like, well,

1565
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 3: where is this gonna go? Because Rose is And what

1566
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 3: I love about this scene is Rose is kind of

1567
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 3: saying to him, you know, these women are too young

1568
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 3: for you, and he's explaining why he's chasing them, and

1569
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 3: it's kind of like he's a professor, so he's kind

1570
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 3: of talking about how they make him feel.

1571
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: And what I.

1572
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,879
Speaker 3: Love about this scene is she's like, yeah, that's bullshit,

1573
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 3: Like you are an old man, Like you are exactly

1574
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 3: like you can't use women to make you feel younger.

1575
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 2: You're not.

1576
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he kind of like appreciates that about her

1577
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 3: and starts fawning all over her, and she's like, ah,

1578
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 3: I'm too old for you. So it's kind of strange

1579
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,440
Speaker 3: to watch, to watch her be able to so succinctly

1580
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 3: tell him like you need to grow up and stop

1581
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 3: being predatory again about these young women. But then she

1582
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 3: also feels like, well, I'm not a young woman, so

1583
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 3: I don't deserve that kind of love anymore or that

1584
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 3: kind of passion.

1585
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was that moment where I thought, I mean

1586
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: when I saw this when I was younger, I didn't

1587
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: pick up on any of this. But now that I'm

1588
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: an adult and I was watching this scene, I was like,

1589
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: do I want this to continue? I was like, do

1590
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: I want Rose to go back to his apartment or something?

1591
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: And then when when she doesn't, I was relieved. Yeah,

1592
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't kind of know why I

1593
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: felt that, but I just was.

1594
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 3: I think I felt I felt the same thing, and

1595
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: I think it's because I don't. I didn't want her

1596
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 3: to be vindictive and to kind of have an affair

1597
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 3: to prove that she could, or to prove that, you know,

1598
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 3: her husband wasn't the only one who was desirable. It

1599
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 3: made me feel like she was more confident and that

1600
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 3: she was more more centered in what she actually wants,

1601
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 3: which is her family. You know, she doesn't want to

1602
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 3: be her husband. She wants her husband to stop philandering. Yeah,

1603
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 3: but I liked her in that moment. I thought she

1604
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: was just displayed a real confidence that I kind of loved.

1605
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, because you know, obviously one of

1606
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: the themes in the movie is that Laluna is driving

1607
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: people's romantic wiles. Like it's like the moon isn't making

1608
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: people fall in love with everybody and each other, and

1609
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: it's this like powerful force, but that she is the one.

1610
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 1: As much as she's like walking down the street arm

1611
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: in arm, that's about as as far as it's going

1612
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: to go. And the moon can't do everything. It can't

1613
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: force her to cheat on her husband who's cheating on

1614
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,919
Speaker 1: you know. So in that moment, I was like relieved

1615
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: that she was she went upstairs, so.

1616
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 2: I was as well. I was as well.

1617
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: And I think there's also like, right after Loretta goes

1618
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: to confession, there's this really sweet scene where she goes

1619
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 3: to the salon, and the salon is called like the

1620
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 3: Cinderella Bar, really cute, and she goes in looking like

1621
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: this six year old woman and comes out looking like

1622
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 3: Share basically yes, I know, cause she's fucking Share and

1623
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 3: it's like so funny that they and it's what's hilarious

1624
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: is all of the people in the salon are like,

1625
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: She's like, I think I'm ready to cover the Grayes

1626
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 3: and they're like, thank fucking God.

1627
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 2: Like everyone rallies around is like, yes, she's gonna let

1628
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 2: us do something.

1629
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was. She looked like a sixty year old

1630
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: woman and then came out looking like she did in

1631
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: the If I Could Turn Back Time video with the

1632
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: exactly the crotchless body suit on the aircraft. I was like, Ah,

1633
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 1: this is what we're getting. We're getting the old shit,

1634
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: the old eighties show good.

1635
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: It's so good. And it's also this is one of

1636
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: those movies.

1637
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 3: And this moment especially solidified it for me because at

1638
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 3: a certain point I forgot she was cher, you know what, like, yeah,

1639
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: this was a movie that you know, she was great

1640
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: in Mask and we'd seen her act before, but she

1641
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 3: was really an amazing actor in this film, Like you

1642
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 3: forget her for what she is known most for, and

1643
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 3: she really encompasses the character so much that when she

1644
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: comes out of the salon, you're like, oh, Fox, she share.

1645
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's the thing I think that I mean,

1646
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: even though she won an Oscar for this movie, but

1647
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: it's like, that's the thing that I think people really

1648
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 1: forget about her, is that she's a good fucking actress,

1649
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: Like even in like Mermaids and yes, she was in

1650
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: this movie, come Back to the Five and Nime, Jimmie

1651
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: and JV and like she was in a lot of

1652
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: things and she's she's good and I and I don't

1653
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: know if her music career just always eclipsed all that,

1654
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,799
Speaker 1: but it was like in this movie, she's so awesome

1655
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: and totally deserving of the oscar.

1656
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 3: Completely, oh completely, And she just again like in habit

1657
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 3: of this character so fully, and I felt like I

1658
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: know what Loretta's life is. I felt like I knew

1659
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 3: what her drives was, and she just really brought this

1660
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 3: character to life. And I think John Patrick Chanley is

1661
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: a great writer, of course, but I think that Chaer

1662
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: was perfect for this, like absolutely perfect. And I'm not

1663
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 3: going to spoil the end of the film, but I

1664
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: will say that when they come back from the opera

1665
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 3: is probably my second favorite Ronnie scene. Yeah, because he's

1666
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 3: trying to get her to come upstairs with him and

1667
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: she's like, Nope, this was the deal. I'd go with

1668
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: you to the opera and then I'd leave you forever

1669
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: and marry your brother. And he says something and I'm

1670
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 3: paraphrasing here, but it's similar to this, which is again,

1671
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 3: he's a very passionate man, and he's kind of building

1672
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 3: to this, and he says, we're here to ruin ourselves,

1673
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 3: break our hearts, love the wrong people, and die. Like

1674
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: he is just like, stop living in your stop being

1675
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 3: so in your head about this, Like, just make a

1676
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 3: decision with your heart, even if it's the wrong decision,

1677
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 3: even if it will ruin things, like you have to

1678
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 3: be passionate.

1679
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1680
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 3: He is also a one handed man who has not

1681
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 3: had sex in five years, so he could have been

1682
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 3: driven by something.

1683
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 6: Else still, but I feel like the passion was real,

1684
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 6: like he specifically wanted her, like he just could not

1685
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 6: resist her.

1686
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 2: So they do.

1687
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: They fuck again, and she has this great walk of

1688
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 3: pride back home that early that morning, and she's kicking

1689
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 3: a can down the street and it's just so cute

1690
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 3: and again, not going to ruin the end of the movie,

1691
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 3: but let's just say that the night before, Johnny has

1692
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 3: come back from Italy. Nobody knows where Loretta is, and

1693
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: he's like, fine, I'll be back.

1694
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 2: In the morning.

1695
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 3: My mom has had a miraculous recovery. I told her

1696
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 3: we were getting married, and she's fine. Now got up,

1697
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 3: she got dressed, She's fucking fine. So when Loretta comes

1698
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: home in the morning, all hell breaks loose because Johnny's

1699
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 3: coming over and he's about to find out some shit

1700
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 3: and so is she. So it's okay. A fucking delightful movie.

1701
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 3: I love seeing the romance bloom between people who are

1702
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 3: not typical in films, and it felt real and to

1703
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 3: see them have passion and to see them have questions

1704
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 3: and to see them, you know, trying to do the

1705
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 3: quote unquote right thing and be on the right path

1706
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 3: but also be true to themselves, and it just, I

1707
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 3: don't know, it felt it felt like a very evolved

1708
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: love story and I just really I love I love

1709
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 3: this movie. Nicholas Cage just fucking hilarious and insane in

1710
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: the best possible way.

1711
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: In this movie.

1712
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just it's a really interesting look at

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Speaker 3: two people who normally would not or should not have

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Speaker 3: been together and what do they do when they find

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Speaker 3: each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this movie so much. I remember so

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01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: much from childhood because it was something that you know,

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01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 1: we watched at my house because it's about Italians, so

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01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, like it played a few times in my

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01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: house on VHS. And there's so many good characters, so

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: many good quirky characters, like you know, I always forget

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01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: that Nicholas Cage's Italian. Yeah, like you know, but it's

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01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I just love all the actors

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01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 1: in it. And you know, it's there's a lot of

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01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: characters in the film that old school Italian people like,

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01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, because there's that whole thing about like New

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01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: York Italians and then Italian Italians like from like from

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01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: the old country, and it's kind of like the like

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01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: the Grandpa character to me was such the old Italian

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01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: like not the New York version, not the one that immigrated,

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01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: but like the old style, and that reminded me so

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01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: much of my grandpa. Like I just you know, it

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01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: just reminded me of family members and the fucking the

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01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: mom on the deathbed where she's just like screaming. She

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01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: looks like the White Witch, and she's just basically like,

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01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 1: when is it gonna happen? When am I dying? Like

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01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: leave me alone? Like you know, he's like cry, He's crying.

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01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: Danny Ayelo's crying at her bedside, and she's just like, oh,

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01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: shut up again. I was like, it just reminded me

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01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: of maybe you and your grandma, Like y'all are just like,

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01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: get away from me, stop crying about me.

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Speaker 2: We get it, you love me? Fuck off. Oh god,

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01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 2: it's so good.

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01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 3: It's so good, and it's just and I love it

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01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 3: so much, and it's just the New York of it.

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01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: It just felt like such a real New York movie.

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01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: It's such a real New York movie. And I don't

1748
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 3: even know, like it's hard for me to quantify that sometimes,

1749
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 3: but this is one of those films. It just feels

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01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 3: like a real New York movie to me, and I

1751
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 3: just adore it and I love I love watching people

1752
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: fumble through life and make mistakes and just sometimes make

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01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 3: decisions based purely on their heart instead of their head.

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Speaker 1: And just the charm of you know, because both of

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01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: these movies are kind of about these ethnic enclaves in

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01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: New York, right, just the you know, the Jewish neighborhoods

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01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: and the Italian neighborhoods, and it's like, I don't know,

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01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: there's a charm to that, and I don't know, just

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01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: I love this week. Watching these two movies together was

1760
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: the best decision we ever made.

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01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 2: I know, I love it, Oh, I love it.

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01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 3: And the other thing about these two films that I

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01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 3: just adore is that these are two women who would

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01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 3: possibly never have met what could be the loves of

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01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 3: their life, and they were right around the corner the

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01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 3: whole time. That's the other thing about New York that

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01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 3: I kind of love is like they were right there.

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01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 3: But because Ronnie works in a basement and a bakery,

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01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 3: you might never have bumped into him or never know anything.

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01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 2: So the way that they.

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01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 3: Meet people, the way that you kind of meet someone

1772
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 3: who could just become everything, that's the that's New York.

1773
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: The possibility is always right around the corner.

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01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 1: Look for a couple of black hearted bitches.

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01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,920
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Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, daniel Do you want to tell the

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Speaker 1: folks what our movies are for next week?

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01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,919
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

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Speaker 3: Our movies for next week are euro Dreams of Sushi

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01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 3: from twenty eleven and Waitress from two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, and very intriguing. Indeed, Yee, Danielle, always a

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Speaker 1: fucking pleasure. Join us podcast with you.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to New York and sniff some garbage and

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01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 3: fall in love with some real weirdos.

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01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Come with me in New York. We'll smell garbage of

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01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 2: fall in love with weirdos.

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Speaker 4: It'll be great, done and done by bye.

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