WEBVTT - Directed by Veronica Rodriguez 0:00:14.930 --> 0:00:17.590 Welcome everybody to this Park Hopper episode of Magical Rewind, 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.000 and boy, do we have a fun one for you today. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.340 We love, obviously, every time we get a chance to 0:00:22.380 --> 0:00:25.000 talk to the actors that do the film, whatever film 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.440 it is, because it's really cool to see their process, 0:00:27.460 --> 0:00:29.290 how they got into it, if they liked the, you know, 0:00:29.300 --> 0:00:33.110 if it was an already existing kind of IP for Disney, 0:00:33.170 --> 0:00:34.390 if they were fans of it, like we get into 0:00:34.470 --> 0:00:37.310 all that stuff. But only rarely have we been able 0:00:37.350 --> 0:00:40.370 to get in kind of the more behind-the-scenes aspects Of 0:00:40.450 --> 0:00:41.610 what it's like to make a DCOM. 0:00:41.690 --> 0:00:43.650 And I love every chance we have to do that. 0:00:43.770 --> 0:00:46.710 And today is not only no exception, but I think 0:00:46.729 --> 0:00:47.909 a massive score for us. 0:00:48.010 --> 0:00:48.379 Huge. 0:00:48.550 --> 0:00:52.040 I couldn't believe it when the producers told. 0:00:51.940 --> 0:00:52.540 Us we got it. 0:00:52.820 --> 0:00:53.040 I know. 0:00:53.500 --> 0:01:00.200 Arguably one of the biggest current DCOM directors working at 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.959 all is going to join us today. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:03.800 I'm so excited. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.360 So we're going to get into everything that she has done, obviously, 0:01:06.420 --> 0:01:09.510 because there has been a ton of it. But if 0:01:09.550 --> 0:01:11.530 you could do us a favor and please help us 0:01:11.590 --> 0:01:13.899 welcome director Veronica Rodriguez. 0:01:16.819 --> 0:01:17.679 Hello. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:19.190 How are you? 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:19.819 Hi, guys. 0:01:20.220 --> 0:01:23.390 I love the picture that you have before we get 0:01:23.430 --> 0:01:26.090 to see you of you in your little ballerina outfit. 0:01:26.110 --> 0:01:28.590 I didn't see that. What? I got no picture. 0:01:28.810 --> 0:01:30.649 It was right before she popped on. 0:01:30.670 --> 0:01:32.130 Oh, I got no picture. 0:01:32.670 --> 0:01:33.730 I think you, right? 0:01:33.750 --> 0:01:38.380 Constantly just reminding everyone of inner children. You know what 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:38.520 I mean? 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.819 Yes. Totally. 0:01:40.980 --> 0:01:43.119 That's how it should be. I always say big difference 0:01:43.180 --> 0:01:46.030 between childish and childlike. Childlike is wonderful. 0:01:46.050 --> 0:01:50.570 Okay. One million. I was just about to turn this 0:01:50.590 --> 0:01:52.300 into a therapy session immediately. 0:01:53.180 --> 0:01:54.440 But please do. 0:01:56.220 --> 0:01:57.680 We're looking for a new couples. 0:01:58.140 --> 0:01:59.780 We always joke that we have a couple of Sabrina 0:01:59.820 --> 0:02:01.800 and I have a couples counselor that helps us helps 0:02:01.820 --> 0:02:03.500 all the I heart podcast couples. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.530 No, it's so true. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.350 No. And it was about my partner and he literally 0:02:08.450 --> 0:02:09.770 one time. Okay. Now I'm just going to do it. 0:02:09.770 --> 0:02:14.450 But like, he literally was one time, you know, during struggles. 0:02:15.290 --> 0:02:17.510 We're good now. So everyone can show. He was like, 0:02:20.730 --> 0:02:22.870 you want to be loved like a child. Like, it's like, 0:02:22.889 --> 0:02:24.790 you want to be loved like a child or something 0:02:24.830 --> 0:02:28.589 like that. And I literally, I was like, yes, I do. 0:02:28.730 --> 0:02:32.130 I was like, that's not. 0:02:31.970 --> 0:02:35.270 A bad thing. But he saw that as a bad, 0:02:35.310 --> 0:02:37.050 like at the time saw it as a bad thing. 0:02:37.110 --> 0:02:38.230 Now he's realized, I'm. 0:02:38.169 --> 0:02:39.239 Like, no, all that. 0:02:39.340 --> 0:02:40.180 Like it was crazy. 0:02:40.889 --> 0:02:41.870 That's so funny. But it's true. 0:02:42.310 --> 0:02:42.630 It's true. 0:02:42.710 --> 0:02:45.130 And again, with what we do for a living, especially 0:02:45.180 --> 0:02:47.359 with companies we work for a lot, it's a wonderful 0:02:47.460 --> 0:02:50.040 thing to be able to tap into that childlike wonder. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:50.740 That's the point. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:51.720 Totally. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:52.780 So, okay. 0:02:52.820 --> 0:02:55.340 Well, thank you so much for joining us. We are 0:02:55.540 --> 0:02:57.720 huge fans of you over here. We've been talking about 0:02:57.740 --> 0:03:00.200 you all the time. And as, like, more of throwing 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.740 it out to the world, the universe just said, like, God, 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.220 we would love to have her on the show, thinking 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.040 there was never a chance in hell we would ever 0:03:07.139 --> 0:03:08.750 get to actually sit down and talk with you. 0:03:08.780 --> 0:03:10.610 So we are so excited that you were able to 0:03:10.669 --> 0:03:12.790 join us. You have no idea. 0:03:12.830 --> 0:03:17.290 So we always like to start with where you got started. 0:03:17.389 --> 0:03:18.590 How, I mean, did. 0:03:19.150 --> 0:03:23.760 Your love of film come from growing up, enjoying watching it. 0:03:23.770 --> 0:03:25.870 Did you find it later? Just please tell us everything. 0:03:25.910 --> 0:03:26.630 How'd you get into it? 0:03:26.710 --> 0:03:28.050 Fan of the channel. 0:03:28.250 --> 0:03:28.690 Yeah. 0:03:29.430 --> 0:03:30.710 Did you watch this thing? 0:03:31.050 --> 0:03:33.489 You guys, I've like, I was like, how do I 0:03:33.650 --> 0:03:38.070 start this without crying? Um, like, and this is not 0:03:38.130 --> 0:03:41.840 even the banner. Like I do what I do because 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:47.500 of you guys, like literally because of, I'm like what 0:03:47.580 --> 0:03:52.500 a minute and I'm crying. Like because of what I 0:03:52.540 --> 0:03:54.370 grew up with and who I grew up with, like 0:03:54.380 --> 0:03:59.010 you guys were my friends. You like the content that 0:03:59.110 --> 0:04:01.330 I watched growing up in Disney channel, like when Disney 0:04:01.350 --> 0:04:04.630 plus came out, like that was my weekend plans. Like 0:04:04.770 --> 0:04:09.030 I watched everything, everything. I mean, it's no secret that 0:04:09.090 --> 0:04:11.530 I love nostalgia and I love that period. I think 0:04:11.690 --> 0:04:15.080 part of me will forever be like, a 13 year old, 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.500 like coming of age in that way. But like, it 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:25.200 was how like watching was how I navigated the world 0:04:25.260 --> 0:04:28.940 and figured out the world and, and understood my own emotions. 0:04:29.020 --> 0:04:32.410 And I come from humble beginnings and complicated beginning and 0:04:32.430 --> 0:04:37.050 like just a lot of complicated dynamics, which are still 0:04:37.130 --> 0:04:41.270 very present for generations, young generations today, which is why 0:04:41.290 --> 0:04:45.549 I'm like, we still need to, make content that addresses them. 0:04:45.610 --> 0:04:49.050 It doesn't mean it can't be fun and light and 0:04:49.110 --> 0:04:52.230 easily digestible, but like it's real stuff. You know, I 0:04:52.270 --> 0:04:54.850 had divorced parents. I had sepsis. I had mixed family. 0:04:54.870 --> 0:04:57.990 I felt like all the things, money, financial issues, like 0:04:58.150 --> 0:05:02.789 all the things. And I was able to not feel alone. 0:05:02.830 --> 0:05:04.650 I was able to laugh about it. I was able to, 0:05:04.830 --> 0:05:10.510 because of what I watched, which was Boy Meets World, 0:05:10.770 --> 0:05:16.440 the Cheetah Girls, like in, And seeing, like, I felt 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:21.580 seen and I felt like there were people like me. And, yeah, 0:05:21.700 --> 0:05:27.110 I just, and I'm a re-watcher. Me too. I re-watch everything. 0:05:27.130 --> 0:05:29.469 I deal with anxiety and have for most of my life. 0:05:29.810 --> 0:05:32.250 And re-watching things is, like, my comfort. 0:05:33.410 --> 0:05:39.460 Literal same. Like, I've dealt with depression or whatever that means. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.180 I think my whole life. But depression. you know, every 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.640 stage of life, understanding it in different ways, whether it 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.680 was postpartum depression or whether it was in my early 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.880 twenties where I didn't even know what it really was. 0:05:49.900 --> 0:05:52.140 And then after the fact, I learned what it was. 0:05:52.630 --> 0:05:55.990 And then now in my thirties, when an amazing woman 0:05:56.010 --> 0:05:58.690 that I work with, she was like, what if depression 0:05:58.810 --> 0:06:01.630 isn't a bad thing? And that's completely changed. 0:06:01.810 --> 0:06:02.310 Wow. 0:06:02.330 --> 0:06:05.940 Like I'm in that journey right now. Um, but like, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:11.240 but so, which was like wild. Um, but like, So, yes, 0:06:11.300 --> 0:06:16.279 the rewatching is– it helps my nervous system. Me too. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:16.510 100%. 0:06:16.510 --> 0:06:20.680 100%. One of my– and, like, but I want to say, gosh, 0:06:20.980 --> 0:06:23.020 I can tell, like, the past two years have been, like, 0:06:23.490 --> 0:06:27.430 two movies, pregnant and then baby. So that's– but it 0:06:27.470 --> 0:06:29.870 was before pregnancy that I did this. So that's, like, 0:06:29.910 --> 0:06:33.589 two years ago. But I rewatched Boy Meets World literally 0:06:33.710 --> 0:06:40.620 from pilot to end. Oh, really? Because I also have, like– uh, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:45.039 an addictive personality in ways. And so, but like, I'm 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.419 very fortunate to where in my generation, it, it's like 0:06:48.620 --> 0:06:51.490 very lighthearted to where it's like, I'll be very addicted 0:06:51.500 --> 0:06:55.089 to like Cheez-Its. And I'm like, I need Cheez-Its every day. 0:06:55.450 --> 0:06:59.310 Or there's one time where it was, um, that store, uh, 0:06:59.410 --> 0:07:03.049 food place lemonade. At one point they had these macro 0:07:03.170 --> 0:07:06.490 macaroons or whatever that were like this big. And there 0:07:06.510 --> 0:07:10.840 was a lemon one. Uh, I literally would, DoorDash to 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:15.640 my apartment, like seven. And they were like expensive because 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.800 they're huge. They're a size of like six cookies. And 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.940 I'd be like, this will last me the week. One 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.360 a day. Two days later, I'm like, I'm going to 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.610 watch some more. But then I eat them. to the 0:07:25.620 --> 0:07:28.450 point where I'm done. I'm like, I literally have never 0:07:28.510 --> 0:07:29.170 had one since. 0:07:29.210 --> 0:07:32.110 And that's, yeah, you like purge and like, you like 0:07:32.150 --> 0:07:34.630 just go and then it gets it out of your system. 0:07:34.670 --> 0:07:37.650 And then you're like, but for me, that takes me 0:07:37.690 --> 0:07:38.970 to the next like tree. 0:07:39.230 --> 0:07:40.670 Yeah. But again, that's good. 0:07:40.690 --> 0:07:42.710 Cause you're talking about addictive personality. I have friends that 0:07:42.730 --> 0:07:44.070 would have said the same thing, but they're like, it 0:07:44.110 --> 0:07:44.790 was meth. 0:07:45.130 --> 0:07:51.690 Mine is sold. I'm like my friends and cheese. It's 0:07:51.730 --> 0:07:54.520 my TV shows. But granted the TV shows, like, I 0:07:54.580 --> 0:07:57.420 do go back to the same ones. Like my ones 0:07:57.500 --> 0:08:01.600 are like Frazier to the point where like, I even, 0:08:01.780 --> 0:08:03.800 I'm actually right now in a process of trying to 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:08.540 not listen to it every night, um, to see what 0:08:08.580 --> 0:08:12.480 that does for me. Um, but I, we watched it 0:08:12.580 --> 0:08:15.200 every night that in our like wedding vows, my husband 0:08:15.220 --> 0:08:17.540 like quoted Frazier and like made a whole Frazier thing 0:08:17.580 --> 0:08:21.860 about it. Um, and it was actually so beautiful. Uh, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.600 but go Frazier. Um, but so that's one, but it's 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.720 because that brings me back to my family. I watched 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.760 it with my parents. It takes me somewhere. 0:08:30.860 --> 0:08:31.220 Yes. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.160 And then, but then like I did with Boy Meets World, like, 0:08:34.380 --> 0:08:37.380 and that I, I binged the entire thing in a 0:08:37.580 --> 0:08:41.640 very fast period of time because I'm like, I will 0:08:41.700 --> 0:08:45.410 wake up. It's, they're like my friends. I like hearing 0:08:45.450 --> 0:08:46.910 the voices. That's great. 0:08:46.950 --> 0:08:48.230 Yeah, I'm the same way. 0:08:48.290 --> 0:08:50.709 Like with Cheetah Girls, I mean, the best part of 0:08:50.770 --> 0:08:53.970 having not the best part of having kids, but one 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.750 of the best parts of having kids is reintroducing them 0:08:56.809 --> 0:08:58.809 to things. Like when I got to show my daughter 0:08:58.850 --> 0:09:03.890 Cheetah Girls, like amazing. She loved it. And, but like, 0:09:04.050 --> 0:09:06.070 I was like, we're watching this for a week straight. Like, 0:09:06.110 --> 0:09:08.310 cause I'm just like, I'm in the music. I'm in 0:09:08.330 --> 0:09:10.710 the vibe. Like we're listening to the music. I just, 0:09:11.910 --> 0:09:13.870 I love those good feels. 0:09:14.150 --> 0:09:14.449 Yeah. 0:09:14.530 --> 0:09:17.010 Do you ever worry that your daughter's going to learn 0:09:17.110 --> 0:09:19.390 the only way to get dogs out of holes is 0:09:19.429 --> 0:09:20.210 by singing to them? 0:09:20.990 --> 0:09:23.070 Does that ever throw you? Because that would throw me. 0:09:23.130 --> 0:09:25.330 I'd be like, man, maybe reach in and grab the dog. 0:09:25.350 --> 0:09:26.250 Honestly? 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.020 Knowing her like yeah the adult if the adults around 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.300 us couldn't do it how the hell were we supposed 0:09:33.340 --> 0:09:35.040 to do that well damn it. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.540 We were we had shorter arms okay what the adults 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.760 didn't have was voices all right we did we came 0:09:41.780 --> 0:09:43.540 with magic powers. 0:09:43.059 --> 0:09:47.510 Power of music actually my does believe she does I 0:09:47.510 --> 0:09:50.730 think she has magic, and she does. Oh, I hope so. 0:09:50.750 --> 0:09:53.740 Yeah. You have magic as long as you believe you do. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:54.679 That's one thing. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.050 100%. 100%. I love that. Okay, so you're like me then, where.... 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.660 Watching the show is super important. So then how did you, 0:10:02.940 --> 0:10:05.200 when did you first decide this is what I'm doing 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:05.920 for my career? 0:10:06.500 --> 0:10:10.860 It was a senior year of college on Santa Clara university. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.350 It was so weird. I went to private Catholic schools, 0:10:14.970 --> 0:10:16.929 majority of my life. And then when I was in 0:10:16.950 --> 0:10:20.370 high school, all girls, Catholic school, I was like, So 0:10:20.410 --> 0:10:23.089 I can only apply to Jesuit schools, right? Like I 0:10:23.090 --> 0:10:24.929 didn't even think not to. 0:10:24.950 --> 0:10:26.370 So LMU. 0:10:26.390 --> 0:10:31.250 Yeah, LMU, Santa Clara, like all these ones. I didn't 0:10:31.270 --> 0:10:34.130 even know. Now I'm– I wouldn't say I'm religious, but 0:10:34.150 --> 0:10:36.370 I'm spiritual. I'm a woman of the earth, you know. 0:10:38.010 --> 0:10:44.270 I'm a low-key witch. Not high-key. Respect for the high-keys. But, yeah, 0:10:44.309 --> 0:10:46.740 so I went to Santa Clara, which was– that's where 0:10:46.750 --> 0:10:50.280 my journey took me, and it was great. Yeah. It 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:56.540 was fascinating, but they have a really strong growing, it 0:10:56.580 --> 0:10:58.900 wasn't even film specific at the time. You could do 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.319 like a film emphasis. And I just, I have a, 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.459 I say I come from, I don't know if I 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.780 can curse, but like the Mexican Brady bunch. Like that's 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.760 what I say I come from. That's my cute way 0:11:10.780 --> 0:11:13.130 of saying it. And I say it was so much love, 0:11:13.190 --> 0:11:15.130 but you know, both my parents have been married a 0:11:15.170 --> 0:11:19.329 couple of times. I have a lot of siblings, step half, uh, biological, uh, 0:11:19.610 --> 0:11:22.050 And they've been with me since I was four. Like, 0:11:22.070 --> 0:11:25.760 so it's what I grew up with. But having, I 0:11:27.340 --> 0:11:29.939 have a lot of siblings. And so, and we grew up, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.960 my adolescence was in Arizona. And so, I'm coming back around. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:34.400 Don't just. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.020 Yeah. No, no, no, please. I love this. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.000 But I grew up in Arizona and it's so hot 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:40.740 in the summer there. It's so hot. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:40.910 Yes. 0:11:41.140 --> 0:11:44.680 And like taking seven kids to a water park is 0:11:44.820 --> 0:11:47.620 real expensive. Yeah. And so we would. 0:11:47.660 --> 0:11:49.660 Gosh, you would think it'd be so cheap because it 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.210 was like, what else can you do? You would think. 0:11:52.730 --> 0:11:55.130 But they know that. Exactly. You would think. 0:11:55.610 --> 0:11:55.970 Yeah. 0:11:56.230 --> 0:11:58.370 And, but so what we would do and says we 0:11:58.390 --> 0:12:01.610 go to the movies and also I'm a, I'm a 0:12:01.670 --> 0:12:05.090 proud movie hopper. We were proud movie hoppers. We would 0:12:05.130 --> 0:12:08.270 like double feature, triple feature. And like, we would map 0:12:08.370 --> 0:12:10.930 out the times and like sometimes the little kids, we 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:12.880 were the scouts to be like, go to the other 0:12:12.900 --> 0:12:15.900 side and like check what theater it was, you know, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.720 to go to the next one and stuff. Cause no 0:12:17.780 --> 0:12:20.240 one's going to stop the little kid. And like, but 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.900 so that's what we, so I just, I loved movies. 0:12:23.059 --> 0:12:26.790 I love the power of, I loved, going, I know 0:12:26.850 --> 0:12:28.850 a lot of people say this, a lot of like, 0:12:29.710 --> 0:12:31.830 it's the community of watching with other people. That's not 0:12:31.850 --> 0:12:35.440 what it was for me. Like, I don't want, like, love, love, cool, 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:41.140 cool for those people. I love, I'm very like, this 0:12:41.220 --> 0:12:43.940 is my experience and I love, I love watching by myself. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:45.540 I love going to eat dinner by myself. I love 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.209 doing those things. But I love going into a theater, 0:12:48.870 --> 0:12:50.790 going into a theater and sitting by myself. To have 0:12:50.830 --> 0:12:52.530 a whole movie theater to myself would be the dream. 0:12:53.650 --> 0:12:59.350 But just like, escaping and like experiencing emotions. I love 0:12:59.510 --> 0:13:05.740 experiencing emotions. And, um, and so I just, I loved it. 0:13:05.770 --> 0:13:08.429 And we always, even when we were younger, my, my 0:13:08.450 --> 0:13:10.770 dad would always let us go to the midnight screenings 0:13:10.809 --> 0:13:13.910 of things, uh, even on school nights. I don't know, like, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.099 because we just loved movies in our house. And I'm 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.359 one of my favorite movies of all time, uh, is, uh, 0:13:19.850 --> 0:13:21.449 willy wonka and the chocolate factory. 0:13:21.190 --> 0:13:24.710 Me too you and i are the same person everything 0:13:24.750 --> 0:13:28.270 you're saying i'm like everything you're saying i'm like like 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.280 liking to eat alone liking to watch movies alone like 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.640 we're the same and so willy won i have like 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.319 golden tickets framed around my home so this is. 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.660 So good yeah this is exactly good weird. 0:13:39.580 --> 0:13:42.460 I mean i'm sure you've been seeing the thing where 0:13:43.140 --> 0:13:46.610 uh the Gene Wilder's like talking about how he only 0:13:46.710 --> 0:13:49.270 did the movie if he could do that one thing. 0:13:49.370 --> 0:13:50.710 If he could do the tumble, if he could do 0:13:50.730 --> 0:13:51.449 the tumble at the beginning. 0:13:51.470 --> 0:13:56.010 Yes. That is, I, I, it's incredible. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.000 It's incredible. Have you seen the trailer for the new 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:58.900 game show on Netflix? 0:13:59.640 --> 0:13:59.840 No. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.540 So they're actually, they beat, they built the chocolate factory 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.880 and a bunch of contestants have to go in and 0:14:06.900 --> 0:14:08.939 you have to survive the chocolate factory to win a 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.290 lifetime supply of money instead of chocolate. But it's like 0:14:12.309 --> 0:14:15.980 you walk into the imagination room and lickable wallpaper and 0:14:16.050 --> 0:14:16.530 all that stuff. 0:14:16.820 --> 0:14:17.959 It's dropping in like a month. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:18.440 What? 0:14:18.860 --> 0:14:20.360 Yeah. 0:14:20.460 --> 0:14:23.140 If you just go on to Netflix, the ad goes 0:14:23.260 --> 0:14:24.180 on pretty often. 0:14:24.420 --> 0:14:24.600 Yeah. 0:14:24.740 --> 0:14:27.920 And it looks. Okay, Netflix, check your algorithm. Why have 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.120 I not gotten this yet? 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:29.620 I know. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.680 I don't know. I'm worried though. I'm worried because I 0:14:31.710 --> 0:14:32.730 don't want it to ruin. 0:14:32.750 --> 0:14:33.850 Oh, I'm really worried. 0:14:33.970 --> 0:14:34.970 The joy. But I don't know. 0:14:35.130 --> 0:14:37.070 I was thinking the same thing, but I saw one 0:14:37.090 --> 0:14:39.910 where you're walking and then they're like, Like, they're talking about, like, 0:14:40.010 --> 0:14:42.010 it smells the way I think it would smell. 0:14:42.030 --> 0:14:42.270 Yes. 0:14:42.290 --> 0:14:45.620 Like, they're, like, saying, like, their senses are picking up on, like, 0:14:45.630 --> 0:14:46.010 all of this. 0:14:46.030 --> 0:14:48.400 I mean, it would be a very much, like, I'm 0:14:48.460 --> 0:14:51.239 very scared to meet my heroes kind of thing, you know? 0:14:51.260 --> 0:14:52.220 A hundred percent. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.560 But we are the music makers and we are the 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.760 dreamers of dreams. It's still the greatest line in any 0:14:56.780 --> 0:15:01.020 film ever. It gives me chills every time I hear it. So, yeah, it's... Oh, yeah, 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:01.890 so we're best friends. Cool. 0:15:01.930 --> 0:15:02.190 Okay. 0:15:02.330 --> 0:15:03.050 Yes, we are. 0:15:10.060 --> 0:15:15.780 I distinctly remember when the remake, the Johnny Depp, Charlie 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:17.950 and the Chocolate Factory came out. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.750 Yeah, I know. They went pure book. 0:15:20.130 --> 0:15:23.450 They went pure book, but I was so excited just 0:15:23.490 --> 0:15:25.470 because I was a fan. I was a teenager or something. 0:15:25.490 --> 0:15:29.370 But going to the midnight showing of that, I think 0:15:29.430 --> 0:15:32.030 I also went to the midnight showing of Nacho Libre. 0:15:32.250 --> 0:15:33.570 We just went to all the things. 0:15:33.590 --> 0:15:34.210 That's great. 0:15:34.750 --> 0:15:37.830 But so love movies. But so in college, senior year, 0:15:37.870 --> 0:15:38.750 see how I got back there. 0:15:39.270 --> 0:15:42.210 It's almost like, you know how to craft a story. 0:15:45.390 --> 0:15:48.770 So I discovered what screenwriting was. I took like an 0:15:48.850 --> 0:15:51.580 intro to screenwriting class and I was like, this is sick. 0:15:51.700 --> 0:15:54.660 I love this. Cause I write as well. And then 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.460 I was like, I want to make my own senior 0:15:58.500 --> 0:16:00.700 thesis and I'm going to write a feature and do 0:16:00.740 --> 0:16:02.680 like an independent study. And I was going to do that. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:08.830 But then I, These two gals were, gals, these two 0:16:08.870 --> 0:16:13.510 gals were, and then I doubled down. Okay. They were like, 0:16:13.790 --> 0:16:15.450 we want to make a short film, but one of 0:16:15.490 --> 0:16:17.560 them wanted to edit and the other one wanted to produce. 0:16:17.780 --> 0:16:19.360 And so they're like, do you want to write something? 0:16:19.460 --> 0:16:22.900 And I was like, okay. So I wrote something, my 0:16:22.940 --> 0:16:25.560 first masterpiece. And then they were like, we can't find 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.730 anyone that wants to direct a short. Do you just 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.350 want to direct it? I'm like, okay. And I did it. 0:16:30.390 --> 0:16:32.370 And it was like, done. 0:16:32.390 --> 0:16:32.950 You knew right away. 0:16:33.460 --> 0:16:37.359 I knew right away I did. I, and I kid 0:16:37.380 --> 0:16:39.920 you not, I direct the same way I do today 0:16:40.060 --> 0:16:42.940 that I did back then. I don't know how I like, 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.120 I mean, I've always been very much like type a 0:16:48.260 --> 0:16:51.500 over to like, you know, needing to like, if I, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.570 I was raised on like my dad being like a 0:16:54.610 --> 0:16:58.150 hundred percent isn't enough is 110% every time. And so, uh, 0:16:58.470 --> 0:17:02.190 it was a blessing and a curse, but I was 0:17:02.230 --> 0:17:06.359 just like, there's no reason why this student short film shouldn't, like, 0:17:06.740 --> 0:17:11.840 be professional and be efficient and be this. And it 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.590 was a fantastic experience. And I've told people, like, I 0:17:15.619 --> 0:17:22.650 feel so grateful that that first experience was that good 0:17:22.710 --> 0:17:26.130 and where I had this cohort of students a lot 0:17:26.170 --> 0:17:28.300 younger than me, some of my peers who just, like, 0:17:28.980 --> 0:17:31.470 We're like, oh, captain, my captain. And like, let me 0:17:32.010 --> 0:17:38.220 just lead with, without questioning and like, just let me like, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.400 cause I very much create and direct from in here. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.260 Like I can't really explain it. It's like, there's a 0:17:44.310 --> 0:17:47.790 frequency and like. I couldn't give you like a dissertation 0:17:47.830 --> 0:17:50.130 on why something isn't right or whatever. I can just, 0:17:50.330 --> 0:17:52.470 I can, but I can tell you something's right here. 0:17:52.490 --> 0:17:55.400 I will. It's not right. It's like, it's not. And so, 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.699 but if it's here, it's like, yes, I can't even 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.080 tell you why, but it's like, it's just this thing. And, um, 0:18:02.220 --> 0:18:04.060 but they just, yeah, they let me do it. And I'm, 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.480 I learned a lot in that. Like there's this one 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.530 scene where it was a dramedy, um, called tight eyed. 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.119 and very heartfelt, but like funny and quirky and, and 0:18:15.140 --> 0:18:18.109 a love story. But so there's this one scene at 0:18:18.140 --> 0:18:20.830 the end though, where this guy's beating up this other guy. 0:18:21.869 --> 0:18:25.110 And I didn't put any like sounds to the punches. 0:18:25.970 --> 0:18:28.490 I just didn't know. I just didn't, but it was 0:18:28.530 --> 0:18:31.910 in its own weird way. Like weird, like interesting seeing 0:18:31.950 --> 0:18:37.100 something silent, but it was, I'll never forget that. I'm like, Oh, you, 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:43.870 you have to put sounds to, um, But it seemed 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.770 like it was a creative choice at the time is 0:18:45.810 --> 0:18:51.070 what I'll say in retrospect. But after that, I just 0:18:51.090 --> 0:18:54.310 I was like, that's it. OK, that's it. I'm applying 0:18:54.350 --> 0:18:57.600 to film schools. I had no the film wasn't even 0:18:58.380 --> 0:19:01.340 completely finished and edited. So I had no real. So 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.040 I'm like, I'm not applying to directing programs or anything. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.220 But I was like, I also know that it's an 0:19:07.340 --> 0:19:10.179 industry thing. And so I applied to producing programs. 0:19:10.420 --> 0:19:10.920 Okay. 0:19:10.980 --> 0:19:14.200 And, um, because I'm, I'm very good at getting done. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.020 And so, yeah, I got, uh, and then I got 0:19:17.060 --> 0:19:21.650 into UCLA and the Peter Stark producing program and asked 0:19:21.670 --> 0:19:23.310 around and kind of what I should do. And it 0:19:23.350 --> 0:19:26.510