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<v Speaker 2>Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Weather to another episode of night

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<v Speaker 2>Cap Basketball Edition. I'm your favorite sports unk Shannon Shark.

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<v Speaker 2>He's your favorite Number zero Abachi Arizona Wildcats, best player

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<v Speaker 2>all time, Gil Arena, Gil, how you doing tonight, Bro?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, man? I'm doing great now. Actually I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not doing great. I'm a little under weather tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Gil.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been grinding my ass off over the last month

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<v Speaker 2>and it's finally catching up with me. Bus, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna push through give the people a great show tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We probably should have took off like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these NBA teams because they bull They bull.

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<v Speaker 3>Jive tonight, Gil, that bull jib tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>One thirty nine, seventy seven, one thirty five, one oh two,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean one twenty seven to one o nine. There's

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<v Speaker 2>only what the Mavericks and the Knick turned out to

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<v Speaker 2>be a great game. It was four and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Cavaliers played the Nets in Paris, and that turned

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<v Speaker 2>out to be a great game. But other than that

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<v Speaker 2>the games were over a half. Yeah, we could have

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<v Speaker 2>started this about an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 3>We could learn it just started.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>At the top of the chat, we are back in

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<v Speaker 2>stop so appreciate. Go out and get yourself a bottle

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<v Speaker 2>for you or someone that you love. Valentine Days around

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<v Speaker 2>the corner. We got President's Day, we got the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah Man, you know y'all will get to up on

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl, especially your team getting handled and we

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<v Speaker 2>So go out and get yourself a bottle and your

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<v Speaker 2>UNC will greatly appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>The Suns beat the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Gil said he can out shoot the Lakers on a

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<v Speaker 2>previous night, Camp, Gil, we have a video of you

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<v Speaker 2>proving it. Uh, let's take let's take a look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one man doing jumping jacks. Gotta get my cardio

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<v Speaker 2>on up. So that is an official hight rim and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the official distance of an NBA three pointer.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is a college this is college, Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then just going down there, Tea's messing with him on So.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's your spot, back corner key or the side pocket, as.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon as I step on the court, it is my spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's your spot, you spot? Yeah, as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>I get past half court, it's just it's just all

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<v Speaker 3>it's just all on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Gill Shootout would be featured a live stream on YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>at one pm Pacific on Saturday, January to twenty if

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<v Speaker 2>they shooting competition for one hundred thousand dollars featuring Gills,

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<v Speaker 2>a rental cast in Florida and fans who qualified. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in December, Gil that's gonna look real bad if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't win that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I know. That's why practice. That's why practice three

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<v Speaker 3>times a day. Huh. After this show, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>shoot five hundred. You go shoot in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>N I got keys to the gym too. Oh oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't lose. So I got keys to the gym.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we going?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you can't lose. It's not the fact the

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bands is nothing. It's the fact that somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a bragget rights to say I beat the former

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<v Speaker 2>NBA All Star player in a three point competition.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not losing to no YouTube bombs. I'm not losing

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<v Speaker 1>to though YouTube per span. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't work my ass off to lose to though.

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<v Speaker 2>YouTuber spec That was a oh on just the second bill,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm clicking pull it up. The Lakers, I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 2>but they lose one twenty seven, one oh nine. Bradley

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<v Speaker 2>Beal had twenty points eight or eleven field goals, three,

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<v Speaker 2>three or four from the three point line. The Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>starting five had just fourteen points in the third quarter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with the Lakers?

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I put it, I put it on my Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>When when you have you know, we've said it, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you have Van do when you have cam in

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<v Speaker 1>right as an offensive player, I know they king shoot

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<v Speaker 1>a gun. So why am I even gonna pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to them. I'm just gonna look at Lebron. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look at a d right. That's period. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>when they're in the game, I'm not playing defense. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna clog up the lane. And when I'm on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to give one against them. Right, It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lopsided thing. I mean, you have Booker, who don't we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he plays defense.

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<v Speaker 3>You got Bill out there.

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<v Speaker 1>They got an all offensive squad and you can't take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of it because you don't have anybody that can

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<v Speaker 1>score in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill ended up having thirty seven, with twenty points in

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<v Speaker 2>the third eight of eleven three or four from three

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<v Speaker 2>Bradley Bill had thirty one. Kad had a quiet night,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was a very efficient seven to twelve fifteen points.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a bad performance. I mean Ad had thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Ad played thirty two minutes. Ady had thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Victorian Prince had eleven, bron had ten. Cam Briddish ended

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<v Speaker 2>up going out of the ball game. He had zero

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<v Speaker 2>points in eight minutes. Us the Reeves had thirteen points,

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<v Speaker 2>d Lo had nineteen, and May's had twelve. Oh, Christy

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<v Speaker 2>also had Chip there with fourteen. Man, he I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he came in at the end of the game, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Like, but the meat up, the meat of

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<v Speaker 1>it is, you have guys out there who specialized on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But the guy your garden's gonna he's gonna score, He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get his numbers, but you're not gonna score.

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<v Speaker 2>Right if you're on the gil, if you're a defensive guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't say you're a defensive guy and Bill gets

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven, you can't be a defensive guy and Booker

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<v Speaker 2>gets thirty one, and then you don't offset that. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other end, I can see if Booker got thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>but you gave us twenty eight. I can excuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>If Bill Bill got thirty seven, you gave us twenty eight. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Devin Booker got thirty one, you gave us twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>That can somewhat offset it. But when you're not giving

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<v Speaker 2>us that kind of production. You're giving us what did

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<v Speaker 2>Vandal what Victorian Prinz had eleven?

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<v Speaker 3>Reddish had zero? Van deer Belt has six.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not Anovel and six is at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Look, it's that's quite simple. Right right before

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<v Speaker 1>the game, you just tell them, hey, hey son, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even need to put your jersey on.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't getting in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you ain't getting in the game unless we get

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<v Speaker 1>a blowout.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going ahead to put you in.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no reason for me to put you in

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<v Speaker 1>a game against this high level offensive juggernaut and you

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<v Speaker 1>are giving nothing because he is gonna by a fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter he's fresh, yes, because he doesn't have to play

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<v Speaker 1>defense against anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>He just sits there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying there should be some healthy scratches of

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<v Speaker 2>some healthy DMP for the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they should be playing seven players eight if you ate,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody gets in power trouble in January. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not the playoff of Gil. It don't matter. You're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to win games, right, You're trying to win games. You're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be shortening up this thing anyway. You're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be trying to win games. You don't have no

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<v Speaker 1>leverage to be playing nine players.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have nine NBA players. Yes, yeah, but nobody

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<v Speaker 2>was good for the Lakers the night. Lebron was three

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<v Speaker 2>of eleven or four four seven from the free throw line,

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<v Speaker 2>ten points. Anthony Davids had thirteen, but he only took

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<v Speaker 2>eleven shots. Jordian Prince had what four?

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<v Speaker 3>Ten?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, nobody played well tonight, and it was all

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<v Speaker 2>you could tell early on in the game. Gil the

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<v Speaker 2>way the game started, I mean, because at one point

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<v Speaker 2>they was down thirty four to nineteen, I'm like, really, gods,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, y'all had I mean, y'all had a day off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like they played the back to back. You

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<v Speaker 2>had a day off, and that was that was That

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<v Speaker 2>was pathetic. I don't know what what's going on, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how Darvin Ham keeps the job if

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<v Speaker 2>they keep looking like this moving forward much longer now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's like if like when you say

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<v Speaker 1>that they had a bad game, ten shots, eleven shots

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<v Speaker 1>right twenty eight minutes, like they can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the ball up.

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<v Speaker 1>If Lebron, if I know you're coming in here, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna sit in the lane and force you to

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<v Speaker 1>pass it, right, So you're just not gonna get the

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<v Speaker 1>attempts up. And when you do shoot, there's three or

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<v Speaker 1>four people that's guarding you. Right, So it's an off

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<v Speaker 1>night because they just can't get to possessions that they need.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I love playing against people who didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>no offense. It's a night off for me, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>love quality shots, And like you said, the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna clog the lane knowing that when Lebron passed it,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably eight times out of ten they're gonna miss

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<v Speaker 1>the shot. At least seven times out of ten they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna miss the shot. Anyway. That's seven out of ten

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna miss it, and the other three they probably

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<v Speaker 1>not even gonna shit. They're not gonna shoot the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball seven out of ten and the other three they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna miss it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's bad. There were some boos from the home

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<v Speaker 2>crowd tonight. That's to be expected. They're under five hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen and twenty. You play in LA, you're the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an expectation no matter who's out there, that you

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<v Speaker 2>give it you all, And I think the fans didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like the performance. That they got from night tonight from anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>and they let them know that this is what we

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<v Speaker 2>think of you guys' performance tonight. We're gonna boo you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we love our Lakers, but tonight was unworthy of cheers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm booing as soon as I seen the starting line up,

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as they'd be like, can't boom get you

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<v Speaker 3>off the court? Man, God damn man, It's like, how

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<v Speaker 3>many games you gonna go? Zebra?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's be honest, he's probably the only starter

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<v Speaker 1>that has the most zeros as a starting As a

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<v Speaker 1>starting player, you're talking about Cam Cam Reddish yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>Van Doo coming in with these minutes, like listen, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not starters, and don't start them in the purple and gold, right,

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<v Speaker 1>don't start him in the purple and gold.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you could take.

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<v Speaker 1>These players right now, and I guarantee you can't find

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<v Speaker 1>two teams they will start on in this NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the problem that the Lakers are having.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say you want to trade, trade for what,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta have something of value that I want in

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<v Speaker 2>order for me to make a trade, because of even

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<v Speaker 2>flopaint no swindow. Well, if you traded me that for

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<v Speaker 2>some of my beft players, that's swindle. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how they gonna get off these guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably gonna have to throw that twenty nine first

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<v Speaker 2>round pick because you don't have any picks up.

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<v Speaker 3>Until then, and that's the last one they holding on to.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have some of them cheerleaders, huh, throwing some

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<v Speaker 1>of them cheerleaders or a couple of those statues.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kobe got don't Kobe have too? They might have

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<v Speaker 2>to throw in that eight or the twenty four you

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<v Speaker 2>hit one of them. Ye, yeah, we'll give you to

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you the twenty fool.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know to give you exactly exact exactly this.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a very bad performance for the Lakers, and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and we thought in this situation that they got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of home games in there. We thought this

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<v Speaker 2>was an opportunity for them to like heal up, get

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<v Speaker 2>some wins, you know, stretch it to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>three four, five games over five hundred. But the way

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<v Speaker 2>they're starting, it doesn't it doesn't look like that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, especially after I saw them what they did

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<v Speaker 2>to the Clippers. I said, okay, we know the Clippers

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<v Speaker 2>have been playing very, very well. They beat the Clippers

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<v Speaker 2>at home. I was like, okay, they beat Toronto's scrappy

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<v Speaker 2>team and then come out here let the egg like this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it's like, it's the NBA. So you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>some nights where you're playing well. But you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>the it's the the consistent See, if you're your consistency

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<v Speaker 1>of three of your players that played big minutes is

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<v Speaker 1>an average between the three of them nine eleven in

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<v Speaker 1>the eleven and a.

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<v Speaker 3>Half, you're gonna lose more of the games than you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna win.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, you're gonna have to just say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, it's shown it's not working.

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<v Speaker 3>Try something else, or it looks like you insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, the thing is the Lakers are playing so

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<v Speaker 2>bad it keeps us from talking about the Warriors, who's

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<v Speaker 2>playing even worse, even worse. So we thought this was

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<v Speaker 2>a matchup we still still could happen. We thought the

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<v Speaker 2>Celtics and the Bucks would be a great matchup. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got Jason Tatum, JB, you got Dang and Giannis

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<v Speaker 2>and this game was over at the half. This game

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<v Speaker 2>was not even close. This was awful, This was pathetic,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was so bad. The starters didn't come back out,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't play the second half. Yeah, they beat they

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<v Speaker 2>beat their booty off. They back tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>This was this was a staple for for the Bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>right because.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one of the players is over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye had to really know that we are a better

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<v Speaker 1>team and might not say it on the record, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are a better team, you know, without you.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna go out there and prove it, right

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, the thing is where they're slipped is defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year they're the fourth rated defensive team. Now they're

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<v Speaker 2>like in the twenties. If so, tonight, what did they

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<v Speaker 2>hold the selfsu would have thirty nine?

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<v Speaker 3>Yull me, god, what did they hold a selfish? You

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<v Speaker 3>had to have gear like thirty nine?

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<v Speaker 2>It was like seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Man even even okay, even the stat that that's pushed

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<v Speaker 1>out there about the defense, it's it's it's Foods Gold, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Foods Gold. They were fourth last year and in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty this year. Well what about the offense?

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<v Speaker 3>Right right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know last year they averaged one sixteen, gave up

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<v Speaker 1>one thirteen, right, this year, they're averaging one twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>giving up one nineteen, so they're plus two with the addition.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. You know, so all that defense they had last year,

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<v Speaker 3>where the fuck did it get him first round exit

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<v Speaker 3>to it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we couldn't tell anything about that defense, cause way

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Butler lit him up in the playoffs. Remember Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>had that fifty seven point to mean, Jimmy Butler looked

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<v Speaker 2>like Michael Jordan and Kobe in the absolute prime and

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<v Speaker 2>that was against Holiday, yes, but but that was that was.

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<v Speaker 3>The issue here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, can we get more offense than the defense?

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<v Speaker 1>And right now it's plus two. So the offense is

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<v Speaker 1>plus two versus what they had last year. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a negative. They're just looking at the wrong stats.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking at, oh, the defense, but the offense is

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<v Speaker 1>second compared to where it was last year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when when you have Giannis out. So the problem was

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<v Speaker 1>basically in the playoffs, when you had Giannis out, where

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<v Speaker 1>we was going to get our points? Drew Holiday averaged

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<v Speaker 1>one point eight in IO points, which right, one point

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<v Speaker 1>eight for your second third best player, when when Dame

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<v Speaker 1>was number one in ISO points.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't take the points over the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I don't think anybody figured it was a

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<v Speaker 2>bad trade. I mean, you get an opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 2>a top seventy five player all time, and you give

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<v Speaker 2>up what you might give up the defensively, it's more

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<v Speaker 2>than worth because you're getting Dame Lillard in return. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so I like the trade. Nobody can convince me this

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<v Speaker 2>was a bad trade for Milwaukee. I think all the

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<v Speaker 2>other twenty nine other teams, if they had a similar situation,

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<v Speaker 2>they're taking Dame Lillard for a true Holiday type player also,

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<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 3>But for but for whatever reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Gil it hadn't clicked as well as I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>would by now, because I mean, when they get on

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<v Speaker 2>the same page, we can see they can be explosive.

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<v Speaker 2>John can give you forty thirteen to eight and Dame

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<v Speaker 2>can give you thirty two, nine and six. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>not enough of that. Malik Beasley played and shoot the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>He's leading the league at three point field goal shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year getting with Lebron he couldn't throw it in

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean from the middle of.

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<v Speaker 3>Ocean, you know what sometimes and you know you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't say that he's a better shooter without Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>and he's what is What happens is when you get

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed and people call it out, you go into the

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<v Speaker 1>summer saying, I need to improve this, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's we have to give him credit for his improvement.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nothing to do with the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you have the same shots when you had in Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>You just worked on that this summer to improve your

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<v Speaker 1>chances of standing on the floor and extending your career.

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<v Speaker 3>Why the hell he ain't working on doing in between

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<v Speaker 3>practices and the shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Around same reason. A lot of guys don't work on it.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't they think they better than they really are.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You go in there, you take fifty twenty five threes

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<v Speaker 1>after practice and you think that's enough. Right, No, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a First of all, if you're not a

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<v Speaker 1>shooter coming into the NBA, you're behind the eight ball already.

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<v Speaker 3>You're your eight nine years behind an actual natural shooter.

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<v Speaker 3>So that means you have to try to make that up.

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<v Speaker 3>That means you have to put yourself on a schedule

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<v Speaker 3>four or.

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<v Speaker 1>Five hundred shots a day outside of practice wow, for

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<v Speaker 1>to turn around, and it might not run for three

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<v Speaker 1>four years, but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna turn around.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're not putting in that type of work,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not really getting better. It was so bad TNT

0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 2>even switched off the game. Now, that's what the NFL

0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.800
<v Speaker 2>normally does. The NFL normally switched the games. The game

0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.120
<v Speaker 2>is getting out of hand, they'll switch to another game.

0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.879
<v Speaker 2>That's never I've never seen that before. But I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Dan, what I know. If I was on Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>ain't no way. I'm sorry, coach, Ain't no goddamn where you.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't get my points yet, Ain't no where you taking.

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<v Speaker 3>Me out at the half? Nah? Yeah, that's what That's

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<v Speaker 3>what's so impressive about Lebron Street.

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<v Speaker 2>He's almost a damn there twelve hundred games with double figures,

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<v Speaker 2>and you see situations like this Jason Tatum, now he

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<v Speaker 2>has to start all over again. He has seven Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, I don't know who's close to him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know if somebody's gonna actually break that record.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about the points, I mean, he's what three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and something points away, maybe four hundred points away

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<v Speaker 2>from forty thousand. Were talking about nobody's gonna break that record.

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<v Speaker 2>Who the hell is gonna have twelve hundred straight game

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<v Speaker 2>with double double figures.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard, I mean, and that's that's the most impressive part.

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<v Speaker 1>The impressive part is that he's doing it still at

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<v Speaker 1>this age.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Someone tried to call me out on Twitter when

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<v Speaker 3>I said it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, when Michael Jordan was playing with the

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<v Speaker 1>Wizards and that second year and he bringing all those

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<v Speaker 1>vestas try to win some games.

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<v Speaker 3>They were supposed to be a playoff seed.

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<v Speaker 1>When they were said, no one talked bad about Michael Jordan,

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:30.719
<v Speaker 1>no one said nothing. They just let him do his

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 1>thing exactly. So why y'all not doing it for this

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.679
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine year old? Why expected to win when the

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<v Speaker 1>when the goat didn't and they they supposed to win

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 1>forty eight games, and then you know when they tried

0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to fact check me, it was right. They had high

0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.119
<v Speaker 1>hopes for that second year and they fell short, and

0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.359
<v Speaker 1>no one blamed Michael Jordan for it because his age.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm saying because everybody said it was just it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a ceremony. You'll see the last two with

0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.120
<v Speaker 2>your ceremony. Well that's what you said about Lebron, Old Lebron,

0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.560
<v Speaker 2>he cares more about being Michael B. Jordan than Michael Jordan. Okay,

0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 2>he just excuse me. He disproved that All Star all NBA,

0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 2>led the league in assists, won a championship. So now now,

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.920
<v Speaker 2>because he didn't come out here for ceremony, he didn't

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 2>come out here to retire. He's still playing at the

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.080
<v Speaker 2>league level. You still find something to well, he ain't this,

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 2>He ain't that. The man is playing at the unbelievable level.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still a team game and he needs that. May look,

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 2>that's the same thing. That's what y'all said. Y'all said, Hey,

0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking to move if y'all don't get me some help.

0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Listen, this game is what the problem is for like

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:40.400
<v Speaker 1>a guy like me who values you know, players, Right,

0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:45.679
<v Speaker 1>when we're trying to convince you someone's not good, we

0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 1>give you all the things they can't do, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the past, we talk about everything

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 1>they can do. Right, so we tell you all the

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<v Speaker 1>good things and the accolades of the past, and then

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.959
<v Speaker 1>the present we tell you everything they can't do. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't go one on one, he never takes a

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.359
<v Speaker 1>last shot, he doesn't do this. This is all right?

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 1>What about the other guys. How about them, Let's let's

0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:11.439
<v Speaker 1>hear what their negatives are. Oh, he couldn't go left,

0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh he couldn't do this. He could, but we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We just talk about their greatness and in our flaws.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what keeps this thing going. Yeah, I mean

0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they always oh he's six and oh but what about

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the first year? What about the year that he got

0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.200
<v Speaker 1>bounced in the first round. So in other words, you're

0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:26.880
<v Speaker 1>telling me it's better to lose in the first round

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.159
<v Speaker 1>to lose in the NBA finals. I'm that's what it

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're saying to me. But look wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>are on this argument, Gil, I don't think anybody's moving

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You are where you are in this argument. Some people

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.240
<v Speaker 1>believe it's Jordan, some people believe it's Lebron, some people

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 1>believe it's Kobe. I don't believe anybody can put forth

0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the compelling argument to suade somebody to move off, whether

0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 1>it's Kobe, Lebron or Jordan.

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:50.760
<v Speaker 3>No, And that's and that's the thing.

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>At this point in time, these guys submitted themselves as

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>potential goat like figures.

0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.200
<v Speaker 3>And the people.

0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Who were there, who watched Michael Jordan Harry NB a league,

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:09.200
<v Speaker 1>not a team.

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:11.159
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't carrying the bulls.

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>He was carrying the league image right this He was

0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:18.120
<v Speaker 1>carrying this game. And the people who witnessed that and

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.119
<v Speaker 1>saw that, they're not giving that up, you know, giving

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it up.

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.280
<v Speaker 3>That's just that's just not gonna happen.

0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So no matter Lebron could have twelve rings that they're

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna find there, it's right. So it's just one yeah

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.679
<v Speaker 1>things where we got the we got we got, we

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>got him up there, and then everybody else is gonna

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>fall short to it because when they say it's about ring,

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, Bill Russell has more rings.

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 2>John Havlachik, Sam Jones, Casey Jones. If it's about rings,

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 2>well it's about it, okay. But what about a guy

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.199
<v Speaker 2>that that played, has been an All Star, about to

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 2>be twenty consecutive times as a starter. What about the

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 2>guys have the most all big NBA teams? What about

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the guy that first, excuse mill, not only all NBA teams,

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.439
<v Speaker 2>the All NBA First Team. What about a guy that

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 2>won championships in three different franchises and he was the

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 2>MVP at all different franchises. A guy average a triple

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:10.400
<v Speaker 2>double in the NBA Finals and with what two rebounds

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:15.479
<v Speaker 2>or left from Jordan Again. But like I said, wherever

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:17.639
<v Speaker 2>you are in this argument, Gil, you're not moving. So

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 2>ain't no sense in us trying to convince anybody one

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>way or another.

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 3>And they just get on that leg. I'm gonna let

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 3>you stay. All they're gonna do is to you can't

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 3>use stats. You can't use stats, right, you.

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Know it is, it is what it is at this point, right,

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know the best thing for me is I

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:41.479
<v Speaker 1>got to play with all three of them. You know,

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>there's only a few people that can say they played

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>with all three. Like so if you say your top

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>five greatest of all time, I get to say I

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>played with all five or four out of five, right, right,

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.199
<v Speaker 1>depending on who you put in there. I mean, if

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you start putting in the sixties in the seventies, no

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 1>then yet. But for the for the most part, most

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:07.439
<v Speaker 1>of your your your top five ever, it is eighty

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>to now.

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean a lot of those guys you played against,

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>bore than that you played against, Shot, you played against

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Tim Duncan, Yeah, I mean Tim Dugant don't get any credit.

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 3>They just make it seem like he was a bum.

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean Timmy, I mean the guy.

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was a fifteen time All Defensive Player,

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 2>all those all those All Star Game, all those all

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 2>NBA five rings, three finals, MVP. I think he won

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.199
<v Speaker 2>two championships. I don't know if he ever won a

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Defensive Player of the Year, but he was outstanding.

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he was. He was an He was amazing.

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And it goes to show you what type of type

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of talent that's been in this league, that's coming.

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 3>In this league.

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And you know, like I came in as a fan,

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I was stand boring out there. You know,

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm yeah, yeah, give me autograph after they ain't even

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.239
<v Speaker 1>give me autograph. And it's one of those guys. So

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you know it's I had I have all three of

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>them in the top five. So I just like the

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 1>polk and argue about all three. Right today, you know

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>it's Lebron, Tomorrow might be Jordan, Kobe might be there,

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, So not one of those

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>guys that just.

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 2>I just I switch every week. I think that you

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 2>gotta you have another another Top five Melo said. The

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Nuggets gave Nicola Jokic the number fifteen jersey to try

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to eat a race. What he did, Mello called giving

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Nicola Jokic jersey the same number he Warren Denver is

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>a is a petty maneuver. It wasn't like, oh, we

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 2>got a number to choose from. It was like here

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you got fifteen, melo, ya, let me take this, fir Mello.

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 2>You do realize this guy was a second round European

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 2>player that when he got drafted, they was in the

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 2>middle of a Taco bell commercial.

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 3>So you really you really thought?

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Who thought Nikola Jokic was gonna arguably be one of

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 2>our top ten player when it's all said and done,

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>because then it thought that they did choke him. Number

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 2>one overall was in the second round and plus Mellow,

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you forget you forced.

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Your way out.

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry you forced your way out of relationship and

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't hold you in high regard.

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Please forgive me. No. No, that as right. He was

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 3>the second round pick.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knew he was gonna be No, it was I

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>remember when announcer said, I don't know if he was

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>playing against Houston, Oh, they'll put anybody in the game

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>when he was posting up. Yeah, right, So they didn't

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>know what he was gonna be. He know then to

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>this Unfortunately, he had the same.

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Number you had. And nobody's gonna remember you wore fifteen.

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, mellow, but nobody's gonna remember you wore fifteen.

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 2>He's no more. And this is so I don't want

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 2>to say it, but you're a Nick player. Thank you,

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Nick player. Your career is New York Knicks.

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, like, we know what you did as a as

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a rookie coming in. But four time All Start, one

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>time gold Man List, three time All NBA as a Nick,

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>six time All Star, two gold Medalist, three All NBA,

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>one scoring check.

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Your jersey is in the rafters in the garden.

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, take that. And that's just it, you know. I

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>mean it hurts because that's who drafted you. But your

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 1>numbers ain't there in the bigger picture. But but the

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>fact that they have number twelve and fifty five retired,

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>which is fat Lever, uh huh.

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 3>And then the Cookie Dan and then the Cookie Monster muntumbo.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>The fact that they got those two up there, you

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>got you gotta retire my jersey, Yeah no, they don't.

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Got I thought they would have Dan Isfel know that

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>they got them, but they earned theirs. You know, Alex

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 2>English earned his. I'm fat lever. Come on you, yeah,

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>you're bad with the triple double before before Russ, Yeah, you.

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't better than goddamn Mellow and Matumbo. Stop nuts.

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, man, Ma Tumbo bit all over

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 2>the place. He was in Philly, he was in Atlanta,

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>he was in Houston. So I mean, it's not like

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 2>he's like known for the Nuggets.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>So you know the fact that you have his jersey retired,

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, I will feel some type of way. But

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I, as a player didn't. I didn't do

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>that much there to really have a problem when I

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>know my body of work is in New York.

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's not like Melo. You had like

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>a Tom Brady career and then all of a sudden

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 2>they give somebody twelve. They gave a guy, they gave

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>a backup. I mean, he was a second round pick.

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>The guy got drafted is in the middle of a

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Taco Bell commercial. Nobody could have foretold that he would

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>be this. Hey, nobody, you can't say that. That's even worse.

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>You can't give my number to the dude in the

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 2>second round. Row didn't give you my number to the

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>second round, Hi Cook. But here's the thing, Gil, The

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>fact of the matter is that the guy turned out

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 2>and people won't remember him. My thing is they don't.

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter who they're putting eighty four. The people

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 2>in Denver are gonna remember I wore number eighty four.

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>People gonna say that's Shannon Sharp enough now they mess

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>right it and let's just say that was Gronk or

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Travis Kelsey. People are like, man, I don't remember who

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>war to damn eighty four before Gronk or Kelsey got it.

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 3>That's just the way it is. That's just the way

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>it is.

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>But when you take a basketball player, okay, it's more

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>likely guy in the second ride in the NFL makes

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>it or play as well, because we've seen a lot

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>of those. Is not likely that a second round NBA

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>player is gonna have the type of career that Nicola

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yoka just said.

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's not. I mean, it wasn't expected. They probably

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't they I mean they didn't. They didn't foresee this, man,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's just one of those things that happened, right,

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, you don't. You don't.

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 3>You didn't have the resume.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you had the Knicks resume over there, right,

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, then we can talk.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 2>But you're you're His legacy is a New York name. Yes,

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 2>it is what it is. And the guys. The guy

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>as an NBA A two times back to back MVP.

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>He's a finals MVP, and when it's all said and done,

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna see it where, We're gonna see where it ranks.

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean right now he's gonna be ranked running

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that franchise.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure. That said.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>He that's done. That's done. Now he got played. He

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 2>ain't got to play another down. He ain't excuse me

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>another game. That's it for him.

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Two MVP's finals MVP. And the numbers that he's putting

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>up with. The dude has what one hundred and twelve

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirteen trip with doubles? Yep, and he's less

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>than what ten years in the league maybe ten years now?

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 3>He was drop did nine twenty fifteen, so eight years.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sorry, mellow, And I know I look, when

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>a guy words your number, you're like, oh man, this

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 2>joke ain't worth that having my number you know, he's

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 2>more than worse. And what's gonna happen is that people

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 2>in Denver will have forgotten that you actually wore that number.

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the black people will remember.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:02.479
<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's the black people remember. I mean,

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just one of those things, like my jersey finally

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>got used this year a lottery pick. Will he do

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the things I did?

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I hope not? But if he do that, you hope.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 3>I hope he don't.

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know the fact that you know that I

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>thought my jersey was being hidden for you know, you

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>know they frownd the pond, right, you know, so the

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>fact that they let someone wear it, it kind of

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>makes me proud of Okay, finally, shit, I thought you

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>can just burn up zero out of the archives.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have my my number at Savanna State retired.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>And even before it got retired, my coach Bill Davis said, nobody,

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>as long as I'm the head coach, ain't nobody wearing

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>that number because nobody had ever had their jersey retired.

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think in two thousand and nine when they

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.239
<v Speaker 2>finally retired retired it. But from eighty from when I

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>left at eighty nine, nobody had even War from eighty

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>nine to two thousand nine, so twenty seasons nobody even

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 2>had that jersey. Now, can't no one wear it unless I,

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>unless Savannah State and I we both have to give

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 2>consent to let somebody wear it.

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 3>And uh, I know. My thing is, why would you

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>want to.

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>A three time All American, a Conference Player of the Year,

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>offensive player to year, three times Georgia's Player of the Year.

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Why would you want number two? You won't, You don't,

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 2>nobody's nobody's dumb. Nobody won't.

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants that pressure man.

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 2>You know you know what's happening. The Magic will retire

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Shacks number thirty two. There's no question he's the best

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 2>player in magic history, followed closely behind dwighte.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh you think you get oh you got d White

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 3>in magic history. You know you got only there in

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 3>four years, that's it, right.

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But like we're not talking about, you know, Shack's body

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of work. We're just saying, Orlando, that's four years. I mean, yeah,

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you was breaking back and fords and stuff. But you know,

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>three time All NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 3>You know you got you know, rebounding.

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Champ All Stars, six All NBA's and six. Like his

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>resume is just bigger than Shacks in that jersey. Yeah,

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean the best, the better player, of

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>course talent wise, Shack, But in that jersey, it's white, right.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Shack made a statement early when the Rookie of the Year,

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>averaging twenty three point four points fourteen rebounds in.

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 3>His first first campaign at the Rookie of the Year.

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 2>He led the Magic to the NBA Finals of the

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety five and posted four All Star season. Okay,

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 2>let me ask you this, what do you have Shacking

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 2>your all time rankings?

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I have him, I have him. I bounced from four

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>to five. You got him that between him and Magic? Yeah,

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>because because I seen him close, you know what I mean.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I seen him up clothes. That's how I kill.

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I've seen how he talked to the defense and what

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 1>we had to do to try to stop him. Right,

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I have him four or five is between him and

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Magic at the four or five. But he's my number

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>one draft pick. I'm drafting him number one. He's my

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>fourth or fifth. But if I got the first pick,

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm grabbing Shack every time. Wow, that's very interesting.

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Because you know, the best, the double one overall pick

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:30.720
<v Speaker 2>that gets voted all the time is Lebron.

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I know who who's gonna get voted

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 3>number one.

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>But I know what happens when you have Shakill Loan

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>O'Neill in the game, right, and you're gonna have to

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.439
<v Speaker 1>draft players. You're gonna have to like, hey, hey you hey, hey,

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you want to play basketball? You know the lift weights?

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Come on, they gotta go to Gohos Gym for shack. Yeah,

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you ain't even I got football? Who want to come

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>come on here? You're wrong, you got you got? You

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>gotta go get a Miles Gary. You gotta go get

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>some defensive line with something five to seventy five to

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>deal with Shaq that's used to that physicality, because I

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>don't there's not an NBA player that's ever been physical

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>enough to deal with him one on one. That's why

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>he I mean, they created the hack of Shock because

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>he was just he was just unstoppable.

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 2>You got one and he's gonna punish you on the block.

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>He gonna clear it out, he gonna drop step, and

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>he gonna dunk it. He ain't laying nothing up. I

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I've ever seen Shack lay the ball up.

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>No, and he ain't trying to and with some funny

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>as I had Baron Davis on today and he said

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the same thing that I was always alluding to when

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>because how physical shock was, he didn't block shots, he

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it, but because he was so massive and

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>his defense was I'm gonna hit you so.

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Hard, you're not gonna come in this Slane no more

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 3>made everybody.

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Else look like they were great defensive players because back there,

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>like so when I want to draw, it's like, oh no,

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get hit by that dude.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Like we injured, like I'm you know what I mean.

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>So that was his presence too, the defensive presence of Lebron.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Ain't driving, d Wayne.

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 1>We ain't driving like you know AI coming there, but

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, ay, I gonna get hit. We were scared

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>to go in there and get hit by Shack. We

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't want that first shock hit or that second shock hit.

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I got his third, all right, if I can get

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the fourth on him?

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes at the half?

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Who other than that, hell no, yeah, you better not

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 2>let him have one or two coming out of the half.

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, yeah, because he gonna say, hey, let him.

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 3>Let him come over here and drive.

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I got something for him, right Yeah, I mean, but

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, early in his career, Jack was a shot blocker.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 3>I think he had averager with three point three blocks

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 3>of the game. Yeah, he was. I mean when he

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 3>was at JIB.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But when he got to l A and he realized

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that I would not get dunked on if I if

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I if I if, I give you an example, and that's

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>what that example was. I'm just gonna I'm gonna go

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>like this and I'm gonna use my hip and hit

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>you out the air.

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting. I don't have him in my top

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 2>five before I give you my top five. The Jannis

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Guess what number Yannis is wearing in Milwaukee? Thirty four?

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Who were thirty four at Milwaukee? Rey aality? I mean

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>nobody thought, hello, if they thought Jannis was gonna be this,

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>they took him earlier.

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes he was.

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 2>He was a skinny kid. When do you go like

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 2>thirteen or fourteen. He was a skinny kid out of Greece.

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean you don't know, Uh, it's it's you, okay,

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>what you look for in drive fifteen he was taking

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth Gil. Yeah, I think he was like right outside

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the lottery, what happens what happens in the NBA when

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you have someone who's eighteen nineteen, right, you're going off

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>of the skill set, the potential lock arms, right, Yes, see,

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>can they run up and down and then you hope

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that they have the work at to want to get better. Yes,

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But for the most part you're looking at measurements, and

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>his measurements was like, okay, we can do something with this. Yes,

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>then you know what, And that's if they know this

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be him and he's gonna gain thirty something

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>forty pounds in the next two years and be the

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>MVP number one pick.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but they're not looking at those men.

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 1>They're looking at Okay, we can guide him, and he

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>looks like he can be fifteen maybe one time All Star.

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 3>We can deal with that.

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>The mere fact that we have to debate Shaq being

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>in the top five of the travesty because of his size,

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 2>his athleticism had he as he worked his tail.

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Let's just say he had a third of the worker.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's Kobe A Jordan or Lebron shackspplted to

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>have thirty five thousand points.

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Yeah, if the refs called the game like they

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 5>were supposed to, he would have had thirty five tous

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 5>quarter right right, you know it's it's it's one of

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 5>those things where in the NBA, the stronger players cry

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 5>the most because the stronger players are getting hit the most.

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, And that's just how the game is. That

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Shack is coming down there to post up, and he's

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>posted up on me. Trust me, They're gonna allow me

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to do whatever I can, yeah.

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 3>To try to get him out of this lane.

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>So imagine what people were trying to do to get

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>him off that spot.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Two hands were sitting here.

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Doing this, hey get it, push, we don't you got

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>six hands in the back, and Shack is just come on,

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>come on down here, come on out here.

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 3>And and it was one of those things.

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that if they just called the game fair,

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>which you can't, right, you can't, he would be the

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty five free throws a game because you you have

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>to file him or.

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.439
<v Speaker 3>You get Yeah.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing is is that when you look

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 2>at Shack and you see the athleticism, I mean, he's

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 2>a bigger, more Shack is more athletic. I'm talking about

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>just athletic. I'm saying you don't have to touch the

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 2>field like a Joel Embiid. But as far as just

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>running drop step, Shack had it all. People don't realize

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 2>how big Shaq was and how athletic he was to

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 2>get up and down the court. But he didn't take

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>training series, he didn't take his diet series. Because had

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 2>he had he taken that serious, maybe he could have

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>warned about some of those injuries.

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Because you know, that's a big man. That's a big

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 3>that's a big man, that's.

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 2>A lot of weight that you're asking to get up

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 2>and down the court playing thirty five thirty seven minutes

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 2>a night at three hundred and thirty five, three hundred

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 2>and forty five pounds, and you're asking him to play

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 2>at least seventy games a season.

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:37.879
<v Speaker 3>And that's asking an awful lot.

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Gil And so had he taken care of himself, put

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the time in the condition, put the time in to

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 2>eat right, even without the because a lot he missed

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of games because of injuries. So even even

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 2>without the files, just being on the court, just think

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:53.919
<v Speaker 2>about he just being on the court.

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.399
<v Speaker 3>Go get you twenty four twenty five to night.

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>What they know today they didn't know that, and right,

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like even today you tell Janni's, hey,

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you need to work on your jump shot to extend

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>your career, to make the game easier.

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 3>It's an MVP and a champ, right right, we.

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Look stupid telling them that, just like people will look

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>stupid telling Shaq, who got the MVP finals in VP

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 1>three rings, that hey, man, you need to get in shape.

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 3>He gonna look at you for what.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, right now, I'm the best player in the

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>league right now.

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Anybody you give me the guy that's eating Saturday, I'm

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 3>a bus his head. Yeah. So that's that's that's how Shack,

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 3>That's how Shaq thought.

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.800
<v Speaker 2>But you're right because once it's hard to convince somebody

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>when they've had success doing it their way, to convince

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>them to change it. Gilts like, change what. I'm a

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>two time league MVP, I'm a finals MVP. Shaq is like,

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 2>brug Do you see how dominant I am? Yeah, but

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 2>just think about how dominant you could have been. Because

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>see the thing like, see this is the thing that

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 2>you love about Kobe, Mike and Lebron. No matter what

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 2>you think about each player, there's no doubt in your mind.

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>They empty the tank. They got everything out of their

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 2>god given ability. There's nothing when Lebron. Lebron probably just

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna be being in the middle of a game and

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:13.879
<v Speaker 2>just pull aside the road.

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Hey I'm done.

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Just like you know, you got a car and that

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you're not paying attention to that

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 2>red light, come on, you out of gas, and all

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you can do is just hopefully you're not on the

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>pull five in the middle of the full five and

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:26.879
<v Speaker 2>you can just get on to the side and get

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>on off. That's that's that's how Lebron is. I mean,

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 2>he's taking care of his body and everybody's coming in.

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you're gonna have a twenty year career,

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 2>like a twenty plus career like Lebron's, like Lebron, but

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it greatly increases your chance if you take care of yourself,

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 2>if you get your risk, if you train, if you

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>get your shots up, try to get better every year,

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>because Lebron is not as athletic as he once was.

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Because that's what I tell guys. When athletics starts the way,

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.439
<v Speaker 2>then what are you gonna do? Because when you can't

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 2>outrun somebody. You can't out jump somebody.

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 3>Then what.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>This Yep, my mind, it's it's just it's just it's understanding,

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's your purpose too, you know.

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 3>The purpose is Jordan's purpose was to be the greatest ever?

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, So with that being said, that's that's him

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.399
<v Speaker 1>getting better into like, okay, this is what I need

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to bring in. Is so when he went into the summer,

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>he self checked himself. He didn't go off the glory

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of the accolades itself. It was just he was a

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>hard worker. Yes, right, yes, that was the model. Klobe

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>followed him. Yes, right, I'm chasing that. I'm not chasing

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the NBA players here. They're not on my they're not

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>on my planet. I want that dude, right, guess what

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Lebron is looking at. So because they're looking at the

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>same two men, they have to keep going right, And

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I tell a lot of players that do not.

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Follow someone that's not on the planet. So when you

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 3>look up, you can see how far so you can

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 3>keep moving forward. You start looking in real time.

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>You know this guy's here that no, no, no, look

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>at Michael Jordane, look at Kareem, Look at these guys

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that they look like they're it's impossible to catch them.

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 3>And when your career is.

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Done, even if you didn't get to them, you're gonna

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 1>be far better than the people you was on the

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>same planet with.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing is gil what Michael did. He

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 2>was the first player to give something, give other players

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 2>someone to chase. He was the rabbit that they were

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 2>chasing because proud of Mike. I mean, Kareem. It wasn't Will,

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't Russell. Mike gave somebody like, Okay, I need

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 2>to be like Mike. Those commercials, those shoes, the blueprint

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the way I mean Mike. You ain't see Mike unless

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 2>he was impeccably dressed. You see Michael a twist suit.

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Mikeel have that they ain't gonna have that hoop in

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 2>his ear. Might gonna be, Hey, Mike gonna be having

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>that Sue had no more bigs, gonna have them blue

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 2>foot so that they ain't gonna the ain't gonna be fitted,

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>but Mike gonna be impeccably dressed. So he gave you

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>the blueprint of how to build a brand. And so

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>he gave you the He gave you the blueprint this

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>is the way you need to conduct yourself. This is

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.879
<v Speaker 2>what you need to do. For the first time they

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 2>had someone to chase, they gave you he He.

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Was the the idea of what a star supposed to

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 1>look like. Walk talk score like. When people think about

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the knock on Lebron, it's not clutch. He don't take

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the game win. That came because of Michael Jordan's right.

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 3>That wasn't in the Wilson all those guys. Was it

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 3>in the resume?

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>You didn't use that against players, But when you sat

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>there and said I need one of those, it was

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>everything he wrung.

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, Gil Lebron has more game wining

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 3>shots than Jordan.

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this notion that he is at clutch, you know,

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:21.879
<v Speaker 2>people started that myth.

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 3>It got perpetuated.

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 2>These people feel if I tell it loud enough, people

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 2>are starting to believe it, even though it's not the truth.

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 2>And so you know, repeating a lot doesn't make it true.

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:32.839
<v Speaker 2>But if you tell a lie long enough, people are

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>starting to believe it as the truth.

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Go back and look at Lebron in the playoffs.

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Look at Lebron against Indiana, look at him against Chicago,

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>against US too, y'all look at that team he got

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 2>to the NBA Finals against the Celtics.

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 3>That was the one on four. You mean to tell

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 3>me he wasn't clutch.

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.720
<v Speaker 1>You know what it is, Uh, it ain't about the clutch.

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 1>It's about how that clutch shot looked. Right, when you

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>think about all of Jordan's clutch shots, they just looked

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like it looked like movie scripts.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, he held the poles.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.919
<v Speaker 2>They remember the double clutch against Craig Elo because Craig

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Lelo has got the block it. He moved it to

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the he moved it back this way. Shot it. It's

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 2>it's it's the whole. That's why I said he was

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 2>meant for that spot.

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Right when you go back in the archives and you

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>start looking up game winners, his game winners just look

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>better than everybody else's.

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's what it was. I mean, the tongue

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 3>hanging out.

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, he had the baggage shorts, he had the

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Denis lee pulled down over his calf, he had he

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 2>had the wristband on his elbow. He was slightly pigeon

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 2>told he kind of you know, he got a dapt

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>when he was walking and so and and when they

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 2>came out. I mean I think it was gatorade that

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 2>came be like Mike, that was it.

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 3>That was it. That might be the greatest. Look.

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.320
<v Speaker 2>That might be the greatest because now people associated that

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that's who I want to be like. And the and

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the shoes just took it to a whole new level

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 2>because people actually lead that. I ain't you. That's the

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>shoes that got you doing that. Man, let me go

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 2>get me a pair, and I have me a forty

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 2>inch vernacle. Everybody.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.919
<v Speaker 1>You had light skinned man out there cutting their head

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to look like Mike.

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, situation. It didn't matter what color your team was.

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 2>You could be greedy gold, you could be black and

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 2>gold you had all ready. You had a red and

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 2>white shoe though, bro, that don't even match. You didn't

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>get a black uniform. You got to get an all

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 2>black uniform.

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean you saw guys with probably all different kinds

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of color and they had the Jordans on and and

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying, nobody, I don't care how good

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 2>the shoe is. There might be a shoe that comes

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 2>along give it might add three or four inches to

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 2>your birth. It ain't passing the Jordan, it ain't that

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.720
<v Speaker 2>too big a believe. It's the idea. It's the idea

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 2>of perfection, right, it's the idea of perfection. And if

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 2>it don't, if it don't look like it, right, it's

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>never gonna measure up.

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing that's gonna come into the league that

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.320
<v Speaker 1>has everything Jordan had not in our lifetime.

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's not going to happen. And so, uh,

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>that's that's where we are. I mean, he came up

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and the thing was gil. I remember, there are a

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of guys that had shoes. Magic had the weapons.

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 2>He and Bird Kareem had the top ten of Zita's. Uh,

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Doctor j had the cons. But once the player retired,

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Once the player retired, the shoe line went wait nobod,

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 2>they didn't make the weapons anymore. They didn't make the

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Jay's anymore. Jordan was the only one who retired.

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 2>They kept making a shoe and it's bigger.

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Listen, nobody got beat up ing on goddamn Magic Johnson's

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 1>and Lady birds Hell Dog.

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 3>I had them.

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I moved up the river. I had I had the weapons.

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I had the Magic and the birds. I had the

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Geordans to my mom and I got the Jordan two's

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 2>ended up backtracking and getting the Jordan Ones. I had

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 2>the spud Webs, the City Wing Ponies, I had the

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Doctor j the Yeah. But there was something about that shoe.

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 2>You felt special. You felt special with that shoe.

0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>That was a nice I mean, I mean, just to

0:49:59.880 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>be honest, like it was one of those things where

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>we stood in them. It was like when the Jordan's dropped,

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:09.319
<v Speaker 1>it was a kid's It was a kid's event. Yes,

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember they used to drop it on what Tuesdays,

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Tuesday's ten o'clock. We ain't in school, right, We at

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 1>the foot locker and we as soon as I get him,

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>we running the lunch a.

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I got him. We did get Rob going back to school.

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 3>If we didn't get it Rob going back to school,

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.280
<v Speaker 3>we cry because we had them first.

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>But they drop them during the weekday and we used

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to get them at ten. We're gonna get the shoes first,

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna come to school.

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 2>And they talked about it and then they put them

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 2>on the weekend and then to gil. You know, man,

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I ain't paying no hundle dollfs on those shoes. Don't

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 2>worry about it. There are a lot of people that

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 2>will you won't well, you won't get a pair man

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollars because most of the time the hue like

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty five fifty dollars.

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 3>He doubled the price, double them.

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:58.879
<v Speaker 2>He doubled the price one hundred dollars for a pair

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:02.440
<v Speaker 2>of shoes back in the mid eighties. Was acid was crazy,

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 2>but we had never seen anything like it because the

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 2>shoes were just basically one colorway. So now you got

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:14.319
<v Speaker 2>a double or triple colorwave red, black and white. Yeah, red,

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the bread the red, the black and the red. So

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 2>that changed the game. And like you knew it, they

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 2>couldn't wory about to find David Sturt said, We're gonna

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 2>fidre you a five thousand, Like di, don't worry about it.

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 2>We got that one thousand. They was finding the five thousand.

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:31.800
<v Speaker 2>But the publicity that they were getting for that, where

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 2>else are you gonna get that kind of attention, that

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of eyeballs, because that's what advertise. You want to see. Well,

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 2>who's looking at it? How many impressions is he getting? Well,

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.839
<v Speaker 2>that shoe got millions and millions of impressions, even before

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 2>we knew what impressions were, but they knew what that

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Jordan's shoe was and it hadn't looked back. The NBA

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Draft is moving to a two night event. Do you

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 2>like the NBA draft trying to be more like the

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 2>NFL draft?

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:00.439
<v Speaker 3>Certainly what the.

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 2>NBA draft is moving to a two night event? Do

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you like it just trying to be like the NFL?

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:10.760
<v Speaker 3>One is dumb because it ain't. This ain't the NFL.

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, you ain't gonna find Tom Brady's in the seventh round,

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you'd like, Right, no one's watching the draft after lottery.

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>So unless it's gonna be the first day the first

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 1>five picks, and then the second day everybody else after

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the lottery pick, we not watching no more because after

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the lottery pick, how many superstars are we getting?

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean in the last one since two thousand, since

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen, the only all stars is what Passal and

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Jokisch Wow? After the lottery? So what the hell are

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we watching this the second.

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:54.479
<v Speaker 3>Day for exactly? And that's the fact. And here's the thing, Gil.

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it has to do with we never

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 2>heard of these guys, these guys that come from overseas

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 2>unless you die hardest of the NBA fans, you've never

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 2>heard of these guys. So it's not like the NFL,

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 2>you've heard all these guys that's coming from Alabama, Ohio State,

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 2>or Michigan.

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.360
<v Speaker 3>They're coming from teams that you've heard. And the NBA

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 3>does a.

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Great job of leading up to the draft talking about

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 2>said individuals that could be in the first round and

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.719
<v Speaker 2>the second round. So I don't look, I get it.

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's trying to keep up, but the NFL. Look, the

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>NFL has cornered the market. They've cornered the market. There's

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:36.360
<v Speaker 2>a reason why they're doing twenty five thirty fifty million,

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 2>fifty million viewers in a game.

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 3>The NBA. The NBA would like, how do we do that?

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 3>You can't. You can't because no, go ahead, Gil, go ahead,

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 3>You just can't. You can't.

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 1>And unless you're gonna go backwards, Unless you're gonna go backwards, right,

0:53:57.360 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna.

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.399
<v Speaker 3>Start with the last pick, you get the first in that?

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Why why am I watching the second round? Who wants

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to see Mark Tatum come up?

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 5>Is that?

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Is that part of is that Tatum's uncle? Hold up, Well,

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>no one knows him. He's calling in the second not

0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the commissioner, right, David sterndon't call my name, right, I

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 1>don't even know who.

0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Called my name.

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it's Adam Silver, the one who's doing

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>it now this round, Mark Tatum, he coming up there.

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 3>But no, get off the stage, man.

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>This is like watching the second round is like watching

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>De City's Child without Beyonce not coming to that.

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Y'all, Well we ain't coming either, exactly. And so I

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:44.440
<v Speaker 2>mean I understand. I mean it's a situation that that

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the NBA is trying to like im plus. You know

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 2>your advertise, you stretch it out. But the NBA of

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 2>corner that market, they know, think about what they did.

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 2>They put sold the Saturday in that game, put it

0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>on Peacock. And guess what game they put on Peacock

0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to Kansas City Why Taylor Swill guess who the game?

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Those young girls eyeballs that you normally wouldn't get. But

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 2>in order for them to get it, you gotta have Peacock.

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Peacock paid. I'm seeing they played one hundred, one hundred

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and ten million dollars just to televise one game. But

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get eyeballs that we don't normally get. That's

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:19.080
<v Speaker 2>why they show on Taylor Swift. I'm not bad. I'm

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>not bad at them. I'm not. This is a business

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:26.280
<v Speaker 2>and Taylor Swift bring young girls that don't that doesn't

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 2>normally watch football. They bring those eyes, and the NFL

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 2>understands that. That's why they keep showing on them. And

0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 2>y'all could take it. Y'all can say, oh, I didn't,

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have watched the game. It's not like you

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 2>turn it so I I'm not mad at the NFL.

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not mad. I mean, but what you wanted to do?

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:45.880
<v Speaker 2>You don't want it to come to the game and

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 2>support the man.

0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>No, No, seriously, I mean they milking it. They know how,

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>But that's not the end. That's not the NBA. NBA

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 1>kicking around as two B. It's the two v Ain't

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 1>nobody watching that sh right?

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Someone named Ocho Sinko Johnson just donated four hundred dollars.

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I beat I beat Shaq when he's the l s

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 2>U one on one. Bro, everybody saw you running the

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Ray Lewis and get paying cake. Kick your damnself?

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 3>How this Oak show? God damn.

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Broh. But you like a mosquito on the rhino ass.

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:24.839
<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't even failt you back there?

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Hey, actually we might take you with the We might

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>take you with the Lakers. Bad throw that out there,

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 1>mad mad mad o cho band Shaq would have punished oo,

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 1>mean you got bid you?

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 3>First of all, he don't know how to play defense

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:41.719
<v Speaker 3>down of the block.

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 2>All Shaq go to do is just drop step and

0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 2>when he swing his elbow, there he gonna be in

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:51.319
<v Speaker 2>the second row. So shows the funniest man. Bad that dude,

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you got going on. Charles Barkley

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 2>to Night said his New Year's resolution is to give

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 2>up diet coke. Gil, what's your advice and what's your

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 2>New Year's real? I don't have New Year's resolutions.

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:11.280
<v Speaker 1>The reason is one, it's it's it's just another day, right,

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And when you do resolutions, to me, it seems like

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you have a flaw in something. Right. I need to

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 1>give up, right, you need to New Year to do that.

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Just get it shit upright, you know. So I don't

0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 1>usually have those. I have goals. Just just set right,

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm trying to be you know, fifty fifty

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 1>million views over.

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 3>All, that's just the goal. I'm trying. There's no time

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 3>on it.

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.919
<v Speaker 1>It's just this is where I want to get to, right,

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>because all these New year goals do is well, I

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>need to get in shape. You got thirty one days

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in your ass is back to normal because you didn't

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>have the discipline. You didn't create the habits to do

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to do the next day.

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 2>The thing of gil is that when you look at it,

0:57:58.160 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>when you sell a goal or you sell a diet,

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 2>they have a start and an end time. So let

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 2>me ask you a question. Once you reach your resolution,

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 2>then what hopefully you go back? Do you go do

0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 2>you go back to Okay? I did it and start

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:13.440
<v Speaker 2>eating or whatever whatever whatever you wanted to give up.

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:19.920
<v Speaker 3>So once you accomplished that, then what sir? So?

0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I had a soda habit and I was like, I

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 1>need to break I need to break this habit.

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Right, And because I understand how many sold you would

0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 3>drinking to day kill seven seven don't watch.

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>God, I mean hit them a like a like it

0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>was like it was barbecue. I'll finish just like that.

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I was drinking seven wow. So But because I I

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I broke the soda habit. How I trained, right? I

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>had to create the habit first. So the habit was,

0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 1>if I'm doing seven a day this first week, get

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it down to six a day, then the next week

0:58:58.400 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 1>three a day.

0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Then it would days like towards before I gave it up.

0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just taking a sip, throwing it out, sip, throwing

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:05.960
<v Speaker 1>it out.

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 3>And then it became two SIPs a week.

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Right now, I haven't drinking any soda, right, And that's

0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 1>how I do stuff like if I want to if

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to get in shape, I'm you know, I

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to lose fifty pounds and I was two seventy

0:59:20.800 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you know last year and I was trying to lose

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 2>So what you get down to now, the SODA's hunk.

0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot. That's a lot of that's a lot

0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 2>of caffeine. That's a lot of sugar.

0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Out of sugar. I'm a sugar I'm a sugar guy.

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 3>So I got down to I got I'm two twenty now,

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 3>been to twenty four, but eight months an hour. But

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 3>that started.

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Seven month journey where it was my goal was wake

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>up every day and leave the house. I need to

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>do that for a month, right, wake up every day,

0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>leave the house right then, once I got that under

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.439
<v Speaker 1>my belt, wake up every day, go to the gym.

0:59:56.720 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily work out, just get to the gym right

1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>if I worked out twelve days too hard and then

1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:05.919
<v Speaker 1>eventually I just started adding on to it.

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 3>But I had to create those everyday habits first.

1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:12.120
<v Speaker 1>And most people try to just say I'm gonna go

1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:14.080
<v Speaker 1>in and I mean I'm gonna work out and do this,

1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you go in there and then because that's

1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 1>not your natural habit and you haven't created that habit,

1:00:18.840 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you always fail to it.

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:23.800
<v Speaker 3>So set little goals first that you know you can do.

1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:26.959
<v Speaker 1>Wake up every day, make the bed once you got

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that pack, check wait yere date, get out of the house.

1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:31.760
<v Speaker 2>But you gotta make the band ogil because you know,

1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:33.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't shut the covers more dark, so the bed

1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:34.400
<v Speaker 2>all mess it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you don't chuck the covers more dumb. But

1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:38.520
<v Speaker 3>you got to create those habits. People don't want to

1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 3>create the habits first.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can't, if you don't have any habits

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:44.680
<v Speaker 1>that you do every day, then you can't.

1:00:44.520 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Be successful anyway. This is just life goals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the thing is the thing is that

1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:52.040
<v Speaker 2>my grandpa used to tell my brother and I. He said, boys,

1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 2>never a mistake habit for hard work. Sometimes people feel

1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like just because they do something over and over, they

1:00:56.960 --> 1:01:00.720
<v Speaker 2>work hard. We've seen people go to the gym five years,

1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:02.160
<v Speaker 2>ten years, and anybody never changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, see, that's a habit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a routine in which you've established going at nine o'clock,

1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock. But you're not working hard because your body

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:11.320
<v Speaker 2>hasn't changed. So what it tells me that you're not

1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:14.320
<v Speaker 2>working hard or you haven't changed your eating habits, whichever

1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the case may be, it's a habit. Some people like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I wake up and I work up at six o'clock

1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, okay, and do what man? I just

1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:26.280
<v Speaker 2>get Okay, So I mean hell bees are busy. Tell

1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean you do the damn thing. At least bees

1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:30.760
<v Speaker 2>they have, you know, they moving stuff around, they're building,

1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:32.840
<v Speaker 2>they building, you know, a hide or a comb or

1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever the case may be. So this notion just because

1:01:37.040 --> 1:01:40.720
<v Speaker 2>you've established a habit that you're working hard, you're fooling yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Too many people mistake habit for hard work. And so.

1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:48.800
<v Speaker 2>That's why I don't do dark dyts because diets have

1:01:48.880 --> 1:01:50.280
<v Speaker 2>start stops they have end dates.

1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:51.720
<v Speaker 3>I have a lifestyle.

1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I eat a certain way, and then when I eat

1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:56.160
<v Speaker 2>too much of that one thing, now, all of a sudden,

1:01:56.320 --> 1:01:58.439
<v Speaker 2>I get back and say, Okay, I gotta cut this out.

1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get back on my got to get back

1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:01.880
<v Speaker 2>on the cardio. I gotta get back on the roll

1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:05.120
<v Speaker 2>machine and get back on the salt bike. And that's

1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>so me. But uh, these people, they'd be fooling themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be a damn get I want to call you man.

1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:11.640
<v Speaker 3>When you do Hey, hey, listen, you do four shows?

1:02:11.680 --> 1:02:12.960
<v Speaker 3>It on your God damn, I'm on yoe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but people people be, people be thinking they're working

1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:18.760
<v Speaker 2>hard Gill, and they really not.

1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:20.600
<v Speaker 3>But that's self checking.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

1:02:21.080 --> 1:02:21.680
<v Speaker 3>That was me too.

1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I was going in the gym, you know a lot,

1:02:23.240 --> 1:02:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and just sitting there. I was booty watching. Not gonna

1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:27.680
<v Speaker 1>lie everybody, no booty watching, you know what I mean

1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a little tiny they had a little tiny

1:02:30.080 --> 1:02:34.600
<v Speaker 2>shorts on. Oh look, I mean Woodland Hills on coming

1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:37.360
<v Speaker 2>in there, make up everything gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you ain't trying to work out, you try trying

1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:41.200
<v Speaker 3>to catch come out there, judge like.

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<v Speaker 1>You were that yesterday girl. You mustn't go home, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're just booty watching. I wasn't in there

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<v Speaker 1>trying to lose no weight. And then eventually it start

1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:51.560
<v Speaker 1>packing up. I started looking fat on TV that line.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, go ahead and take this, take this serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get this off. Ridney, my whomeboy, Ridney Dnkins Rock.

1:02:57.480 --> 1:03:00.040
<v Speaker 2>What's up? I got my fourth bottle of Portier on

1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:03.040
<v Speaker 2>the way. Also, I asked Ray about needing to reach

1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:06.480
<v Speaker 2>out to your team about trying to come on your

1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:09.440
<v Speaker 2>show for the Olympics. I was pleased with his response,

1:03:12.320 --> 1:03:15.800
<v Speaker 2>that's my homeboy. His dad used to coach me on

1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:18.400
<v Speaker 2>when I was on a I probably how it was.

1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I probably was like nine. I probably was nine, So

1:03:21.920 --> 1:03:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I've been He's from my hometown. We called him Rock,

1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and so I appreciate the support.

1:03:28.000 --> 1:03:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure if they've reached out back after you

1:03:30.600 --> 1:03:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and gave you a response, they own it. Uh two

1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Pinet three snipers said, hey, uh Ca, and about your

1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:38.080
<v Speaker 2>big fan, this is for Gil. If you could take

1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:41.760
<v Speaker 2>injuries out, how high do you think you would have

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<v Speaker 2>reached in NBA Greats Top seventy five, top fifty.

1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:47.360
<v Speaker 3>To be honest, I mean I would have been top

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what I was doing at that time was

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<v Speaker 1>unheard of, right, you know, I was a three time

1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:58.080
<v Speaker 1>All Star, three time All NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>By the age of twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a big list, you know, being dominated that fast,

1:04:04.000 --> 1:04:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, averaging twenty eight twenty nine. So I was

1:04:06.440 --> 1:04:09.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna win a scoring title, you know, with the way

1:04:09.840 --> 1:04:12.520
<v Speaker 1>my metrics was running, I was gonna win a scoring title.

1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:15.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, Dwayne Wade end up winning one with thirty.

1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:18.440
<v Speaker 1>So you know, once everyone started getting their teams better,

1:04:19.000 --> 1:04:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and I was gonna be one of those guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That led the league in scoring. I had the advantage.

1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:33.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone thought AI was the guy who changed

1:04:33.920 --> 1:04:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the point guard position.

1:04:34.840 --> 1:04:38.160
<v Speaker 3>It was me because they moved him to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Two when I came in, bigger guard, a shooting guard

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<v Speaker 1>played the point.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have a big man to pass the ball

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<v Speaker 3>down there too, right, So I.

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<v Speaker 1>Had the advantage over the Baron Davis, the Stefan Maulberry's,

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<v Speaker 1>the Steve Nashes. So you know, you given you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and fourteen assists, I'm giving third the points and

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<v Speaker 1>six assists, I'm pushing more points than you, right, right,

1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:08.200
<v Speaker 1>total points. I'm pushing more than you at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got injured, you know, and and it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things. But my impact was so so so

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<v Speaker 1>huge and fast that I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Still relevant today. What what injury did you have, Gail?

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened? Did you come back too soon?

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<v Speaker 3>Did he.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you cut back too soon? Did it not fix

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<v Speaker 2>it properly? To begin with, I was boxing out. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why the hell I was boxing out of hum.

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<v Speaker 2>I was boxing out. Uh you know, Jered Wallace fake

1:05:41.240 --> 1:05:42.760
<v Speaker 2>fake the jumper. I thought he was gonna take it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I should have known it was Jared Wallace.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't shoot ship, so I should have known there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a pump faking drive.

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<v Speaker 3>But he pump fake drove.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm boxing out thinking he shot the ball, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he ran he ran into me, and then tour UHM

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<v Speaker 1>M c l p c l M meniscus. And then

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<v Speaker 1>because I've never knew what an injury was, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really rehab the way.

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<v Speaker 3>I was supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>So I came back, you know, came back as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as the season started. Eight games intil the season started,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm injured again. So I had three after I had

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<v Speaker 1>three knee surgeries in fourteen months and all that trauma

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<v Speaker 1>built up, all this scar tissue, and you the same

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<v Speaker 1>after that.

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<v Speaker 5>Nah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I really messed my hand up on

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron that cav series because I needed to come back

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<v Speaker 1>and play right because my contract is coming up, and

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<v Speaker 1>because my name was still hot and they still had

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still.

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<v Speaker 3>Good in the eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to come in there and play two games

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<v Speaker 1>to show that they am back right.

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<v Speaker 3>And what happened is.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron ran into my wrists and you know, I couldn't shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>so they gave me one of those tortos shots in

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<v Speaker 1>my ass. I had to bend over and I hyper

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<v Speaker 1>extended my my injured need right, which that took forever

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<v Speaker 1>to rehab. So rle be thinking I'm superman. Yes, Yes, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus I think the thing is we know more now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're probably became out better. Missing the whole year, probably

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<v Speaker 2>came out better missing the whole year, came back to

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<v Speaker 2>following year.

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<v Speaker 3>But I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand that your contract was up, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to parlay that into another big contract, knowing,

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing, you're probably doing more harm than good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's one of those I risked my career for

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<v Speaker 1>that next contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you did, You absolutely did. Jordan asked, would you

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<v Speaker 2>rather have embiid or Y'll getch on your team. Shack

1:07:41.120 --> 1:07:45.520
<v Speaker 2>recently said on this podcast, we know Joe Ebid is

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<v Speaker 2>the best big man when it comes to numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, But Djoko went to the Big Dance and

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<v Speaker 2>got the thing done. We know what, we know what

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<v Speaker 2>you can do, but can you do it at the

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<v Speaker 2>at the Big Dance? Can you get the phone number

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<v Speaker 2>at the Big Dance and take home and close the deal?

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<v Speaker 3>Who you won't who you won't?

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<v Speaker 1>Giel I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna take him Bead.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I'm gonna take him beat is because if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have anyone on my team, I know he

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<v Speaker 1>can dominate, right, and he can dominate by himself right right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's my job to find pieces that work with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Jokic, Yokic, You're gonna need guys who can shoot the

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<v Speaker 1>ball that he can pass the ball to. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to treat him like Jason Kidd, Magic Johnson. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to put other guys around that can make plays when

1:08:41.880 --> 1:08:44.040
<v Speaker 1>he finds them. So if he has a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of guys who can't shoot the ball, who can't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything else, then you're just left with twenty two and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve rebounds, right, and you take away his assists.

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<v Speaker 3>His assist comes because his vision.

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<v Speaker 1>If he can't use his vision, right, if he can't

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<v Speaker 1>use his vision, then in a sense, he's just an

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<v Speaker 1>average double and double guy. And that's why he went

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<v Speaker 1>in the second round because when he's working out, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not working out with five other players where he gets

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<v Speaker 1>to use his passing skills.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead need to be I would need to be smarter

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<v Speaker 1>as a general manager with Jokic. I have to put

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<v Speaker 1>the right pieces around Yokis would him be I can

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<v Speaker 1>fuck up a couple of times in the draft and

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<v Speaker 1>he can carry us for a little bit. That's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the thing is I'm gonna take Jokic

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<v Speaker 2>because I think the thing is that the way they

1:09:32.640 --> 1:09:35.760
<v Speaker 2>built their team in Philly and the way I mean, look,

1:09:35.840 --> 1:09:39.280
<v Speaker 2>they built their team. So Joel Eid everybody runs the

1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:42.839
<v Speaker 2>offense because there have been times Nicola Jokic could impact

1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the game and only take ten shots Joel doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the same impact without those without those attempts because he's

1:09:49.439 --> 1:09:52.760
<v Speaker 2>getting to the foul line. So for me to watch

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<v Speaker 2>him be able to go give me forty twenty and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>And like they said, every big game, every big shot

1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that they needed last year, in that moment, Nikola Jokic

1:10:04.120 --> 1:10:06.240
<v Speaker 2>made the shot more he made the perfect pass.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's that's I mean, that's what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>His value, his value comes, His value comes because he

1:10:12.080 --> 1:10:15.519
<v Speaker 1>can pass that ball, right, And that's why I said,

1:10:15.520 --> 1:10:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like I would have to be you know, Calvin Booth,

1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:18.880
<v Speaker 1>we were teammates, So.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to create That's what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be smarter as a general manager when

1:10:26.720 --> 1:10:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you have Jokic. Yes, right, I can. I can be

1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:32.360
<v Speaker 1>done with Embiid, Right, you know I can. I could

1:10:32.400 --> 1:10:34.759
<v Speaker 1>be Maury and I can do I could be Maury

1:10:34.800 --> 1:10:37.280
<v Speaker 1>with with Embiid. You know, when when you having someone

1:10:37.360 --> 1:10:40.479
<v Speaker 1>like Jokic, you have to put the right pieces to

1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:44.320
<v Speaker 1>make sure that he's at that high level every single

1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:47.640
<v Speaker 1>night where when he's not scoring, he can get your

1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:48.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty assists.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, oh for sure, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that you know, like I would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to be very smart when I have

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<v Speaker 1>a player like Jokic.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Owens asked, I think d Rose would have won

1:11:01.120 --> 1:11:02.960
<v Speaker 2>two or three rings and in top twenty five if

1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:05.240
<v Speaker 2>he never gotten injured. What do you think, Gilan up,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think d Rose would have ranked had

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<v Speaker 2>he not gotten injured?

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<v Speaker 3>Ranked? Yes? Oh, I mean, I mean when you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about like dynamic guards, wow, I mean the Rose that

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<v Speaker 3>he was different.

1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:26.560
<v Speaker 2>He was He was Russell before Russell Restbrook. He was

1:11:26.640 --> 1:11:30.040
<v Speaker 2>John Moran before John Moran, the explosive guy that played

1:11:30.040 --> 1:11:33.760
<v Speaker 2>above the rim. And so there weren't there. Look, they

1:11:33.800 --> 1:11:38.080
<v Speaker 2>weren't point guards. That was explosives as d Rose from

1:11:38.160 --> 1:11:41.439
<v Speaker 2>end to end, and he played above the rim, which

1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:43.479
<v Speaker 2>we had never seen a point guard play above the

1:11:43.560 --> 1:11:46.439
<v Speaker 2>rim like d Rose could. Now we see what Russe

1:11:46.520 --> 1:11:48.519
<v Speaker 2>has done, we see John Moran finishing at the rim

1:11:48.560 --> 1:11:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that.

1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:53.559
<v Speaker 3>But before those guys, d Rosse was in. Yeah.

1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Even even like when you're talking about above the rim, Yeah,

1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:59.639
<v Speaker 1>you had like small guards back in the day, but not.

1:11:59.760 --> 1:12:02.360
<v Speaker 3>In pactful like d Rose did.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but you know, his uh, his quickness and his

1:12:06.800 --> 1:12:11.000
<v Speaker 1>speed with his explosion up was just different. It was

1:12:11.040 --> 1:12:15.640
<v Speaker 1>just a he was just a different dude. You know,

1:12:17.439 --> 1:12:19.599
<v Speaker 1>he could have argued if he would have stayed healthy.

1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Of course he argues for you know, best point guard ever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just one of those things that he

1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:28.759
<v Speaker 1>was just different, seeing something different. The way he played

1:12:28.760 --> 1:12:31.439
<v Speaker 1>the game. Hard knew how to knew how to get

1:12:31.439 --> 1:12:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to the lane. You know, those type of guys you

1:12:34.920 --> 1:12:38.800
<v Speaker 1>just get. He's just you look back and saying what

1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:40.240
<v Speaker 1>could have been? What could have been?

1:12:41.160 --> 1:12:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we're gonna make Peenie Hardaway is in a

1:12:46.400 --> 1:12:48.360
<v Speaker 1>different category because he was six seventy six eight.

1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, you have Magic Johnson. He was more of

1:12:50.880 --> 1:12:53.600
<v Speaker 2>a Magic Johnson type. Yeah, but could score the basketball

1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:56.479
<v Speaker 2>and then he did have shot. It's kind of like

1:12:56.520 --> 1:13:00.280
<v Speaker 2>what Magic had with Kareem. So, I mean sometimes people

1:13:00.280 --> 1:13:03.000
<v Speaker 2>forget that Magic came into the league and Kareem was

1:13:03.040 --> 1:13:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the m v P. Now let that think just the

1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:06.960
<v Speaker 2>magine if Joe el Embiid is the m v P

1:13:07.360 --> 1:13:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and they get Victor women Yama, Yeah, that's what that's

1:13:13.400 --> 1:13:15.599
<v Speaker 2>that's what happened with the Lakers.

1:13:15.720 --> 1:13:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Uh, they got Magic and Kareem was the MVP. Yep.

1:13:19.960 --> 1:13:21.799
<v Speaker 3>And then they won a championship and got worthy.

1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, in eighty two they won the championship and yo,

1:13:26.880 --> 1:13:29.679
<v Speaker 2>what yep, that's what happened.

1:13:29.760 --> 1:13:32.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So with that, Big said, Yil, we're gonna were

1:13:32.280 --> 1:13:34.320
<v Speaker 3>gonna cut it short tonight. Man. I'm just I'm under

1:13:34.360 --> 1:13:34.679
<v Speaker 3>the weather.

1:13:34.920 --> 1:13:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, man, I just want to give you flowers, man,

1:13:37.880 --> 1:13:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and then and Jimmy for the audience out there. Look, listen,

1:13:41.400 --> 1:13:44.280
<v Speaker 1>y'all see Unk out here struggling right, And the fact

1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:46.519
<v Speaker 1>that he even hit the live, it just lets you

1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:48.960
<v Speaker 1>know how dedicated he is. So when you sit thinking

1:13:49.000 --> 1:13:52.400
<v Speaker 1>about dedication, the fact that he hit the live, been

1:13:52.479 --> 1:13:55.080
<v Speaker 1>working all week and he's sick, you can you can

1:13:55.120 --> 1:13:56.960
<v Speaker 1>see it. And the fact that you know, that's what

1:13:57.000 --> 1:14:01.000
<v Speaker 1>greatness is, that that is Jordan in the flu game.

1:14:01.160 --> 1:14:04.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what you're doing tonight. You know we can

1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:05.960
<v Speaker 1>see you, we can hear it. And the fact that

1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you even hit the live to even come out here

1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and let you know how dedicated you are. And this

1:14:11.479 --> 1:14:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is for people who's really trying to see what it

1:14:14.200 --> 1:14:17.599
<v Speaker 1>takes to be great. Their now excuses, you still give

1:14:17.640 --> 1:14:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the fans what they deserve, even if it's for an hour,

1:14:20.360 --> 1:14:21.679
<v Speaker 1>hour and a half twy minutes.

1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Man.

1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:27.559
<v Speaker 1>So hey, I looked at you as number one before. Huh,

1:14:27.600 --> 1:14:30.040
<v Speaker 1>this is your championship for me. You know what I mean, Sit,

1:14:30.360 --> 1:14:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. See it in the fact that you're

1:14:32.080 --> 1:14:35.040
<v Speaker 1>still going. That's another level of dedication, man. Like. So

1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:37.799
<v Speaker 1>when I get sick and I don't want to do something,

1:14:37.840 --> 1:14:39.800
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm gonna think about. Man uncle, he's

1:14:39.840 --> 1:14:42.560
<v Speaker 1>struggling man doing his thing, so I can't no let

1:14:42.600 --> 1:14:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the party go. I had a professor in nineteen eighty

1:14:46.800 --> 1:14:50.080
<v Speaker 1>seven named Norman Elmill Rest your soul, doctor Elmore.

1:14:50.320 --> 1:14:51.280
<v Speaker 3>And it was cold.

1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about really really cold that day, and the

1:14:53.920 --> 1:14:57.439
<v Speaker 2>heat wasn't working, and so it would probably only three

1:14:57.479 --> 1:14:59.120
<v Speaker 2>people that showed up for the class.

1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Remember him walking in. He never had a book back.

1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:02.759
<v Speaker 3>He had all these books.

1:15:02.760 --> 1:15:04.559
<v Speaker 2>And if you went to Savannah State and was talked

1:15:04.600 --> 1:15:07.120
<v Speaker 2>by doctor Norman Elmore, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

1:15:07.680 --> 1:15:09.840
<v Speaker 2>And he came and had all these books and he

1:15:09.880 --> 1:15:12.240
<v Speaker 2>threw them on the desk. He said, you know, I

1:15:12.400 --> 1:15:15.200
<v Speaker 2>almost didn't show up today, but I thought somebody might

1:15:15.240 --> 1:15:17.959
<v Speaker 2>want to learn something. I thought someone want to be educated,

1:15:18.400 --> 1:15:21.200
<v Speaker 2>be informed, And so that's what I said, I almost

1:15:21.240 --> 1:15:24.639
<v Speaker 2>like ash Man, I'm struggling today, but I thought someone

1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:26.879
<v Speaker 2>want to be entertained, someone will want to be educated,

1:15:26.920 --> 1:15:29.120
<v Speaker 2>someone want to be informed, And so I showed up

1:15:29.160 --> 1:15:31.599
<v Speaker 2>and gave you my best. Hopefully the medication that I've

1:15:31.600 --> 1:15:33.960
<v Speaker 2>received over the last couple of days would take effect,

1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:37.840
<v Speaker 2>and Saturday I'll be a lot better. But I don't

1:15:37.840 --> 1:15:40.200
<v Speaker 2>make any show up to get me. I got some

1:15:40.280 --> 1:15:43.000
<v Speaker 2>nurses that do the things for you. No, no, no, no, no, Now,

1:15:42.840 --> 1:15:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get them sick. Uh, what's them, y'all?

1:15:47.080 --> 1:15:50.360
<v Speaker 2>What's them? Y'all don't know about that. I told you

1:15:50.479 --> 1:15:53.320
<v Speaker 2>those are better than them. Jumpman's you poured our last week? Man,

1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:55.320
<v Speaker 2>go ahead over that, Gil bad, Come on, man, let

1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:57.680
<v Speaker 2>that go stolen my gill throw me out?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, this this episode is on Flue game man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it was, all right, enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>your name. Well we'll we'll see what's up.

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<v Speaker 2>us out, but we're back in stop. So with the

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<v Speaker 2>holidays right around the corner, we got the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>we got what else we got? We got Saint Patrick's Day,

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<v Speaker 2>we got Valentine's Day. Hey, I'm telling you, hey, by

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<v Speaker 2>that man, by your man's woman, that Laportier.

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<v Speaker 3>Women, you won't regret it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, ladies, if all my ladies that's in the chat,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know who y'all are, y'all know what I'll want

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<v Speaker 1>for Valentine's Day?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Hey, may be harder than the Times for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine years. I'm telling you that you won't be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>If your favorite dog Channing Sharp and he's your paper

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<v Speaker 2>number zero, Arizona Wildcat legend Gilbert Arena, mister Abajia himself.

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<v Speaker 3>We're out volume