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Speaker 2: He's your favorite Number zero Abachi Arizona Wildcats, best player

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, man? I'm doing great now. Actually I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing great. I'm a little under weather tonight.

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Speaker 3: Gil.

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Speaker 2: I've been grinding my ass off over the last month

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Speaker 2: and it's finally catching up with me. Bus, So I'm

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Speaker 2: We probably should have took off like a lot of

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Speaker 3: Jive tonight, Gil, that bull jib tonight.

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Speaker 2: One thirty nine, seventy seven, one thirty five, one oh two,

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Speaker 2: only what the Mavericks and the Knick turned out to

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Speaker 2: be a great game. It was four and I think

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Speaker 2: the Cavaliers played the Nets in Paris, and that turned

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Speaker 2: out to be a great game. But other than that

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Speaker 2: the games were over a half. Yeah, we could have

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Speaker 2: started this about an hour ago.

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Speaker 3: We could learn it just started.

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Speaker 3: The Suns beat the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Gil said he can out shoot the Lakers on a

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Speaker 2: previous night, Camp, Gil, we have a video of you

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Speaker 2: proving it. Uh, let's take let's take a look at that.

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Speaker 2: That's one man doing jumping jacks. Gotta get my cardio

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Speaker 2: that's the official distance of an NBA three pointer.

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Speaker 3: Soon as I step on the court, it is my spot.

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Speaker 2: Gill Shootout would be featured a live stream on YouTube

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Speaker 2: at one pm Pacific on Saturday, January to twenty if

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Speaker 2: they shooting competition for one hundred thousand dollars featuring Gills,

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Speaker 2: in December, Gil that's gonna look real bad if you

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Speaker 3: Now, I know. That's why practice. That's why practice three

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Speaker 3: shoot five hundred. You go shoot in the dark.

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Speaker 2: YouTuber spec That was a oh on just the second bill,

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Speaker 2: I'm clicking pull it up. The Lakers, I don't know why,

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Speaker 2: Beal had twenty points eight or eleven field goals, three,

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Speaker 3: I was. I put it, I put it on my Instagram.

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Speaker 1: When when you have you know, we've said it, and

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Speaker 1: when they're in the game, I'm not playing defense. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna clog up the lane. And when I'm on offense,

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Speaker 1: I get to give one against them. Right, It's a

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Speaker 1: They got an all offensive squad and you can't take

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Speaker 2: Bill ended up having thirty seven, with twenty points in

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Speaker 2: That was a bad performance. I mean Ad had thirteen.

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Speaker 2: I mean Ad played thirty two minutes. Ady had thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Victorian Prince had eleven, bron had ten. Cam Briddish ended

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Like, but the meat up, the meat of

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Speaker 1: But the guy your garden's gonna he's gonna score, He's

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Speaker 2: Devin Booker got thirty one, you gave us twenty five.

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Speaker 3: You ain't getting in the day.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you ain't getting in the game unless we get

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Speaker 3: I'm going ahead to put you in.

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Speaker 1: But there's no reason for me to put you in

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Speaker 1: quarter he's fresh, yes, because he doesn't have to play

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Speaker 1: not the playoff of Gil. It don't matter. You're trying

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Speaker 2: You don't have nine NBA players. Yes, yeah, but nobody

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Speaker 2: I mean, nobody played well tonight, and it was all

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Speaker 2: I mean, y'all had I mean, y'all had a day off.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they played the back to back. You

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bad. There were some boos from the home

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Speaker 2: nineteen and twenty. You play in LA, you're the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: There's an expectation no matter who's out there, that you

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Speaker 2: like the performance. That they got from night tonight from anyone,

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Speaker 2: think of you guys' performance tonight. We're gonna boo you. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm booing as soon as I seen the starting line up,

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Speaker 3: many games you gonna go? Zebra?

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, he's probably the only starter

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Speaker 1: Van Doo coming in with these minutes, like listen, they're

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Speaker 3: Like you could take.

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Speaker 1: These players right now, and I guarantee you can't find

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Speaker 3: And that's the problem that the Lakers are having.

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Speaker 2: When you say you want to trade, trade for what,

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Speaker 2: you gotta have something of value that I want in

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Speaker 2: order for me to make a trade, because of even

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Speaker 2: flopaint no swindow. Well, if you traded me that for

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Speaker 2: some of my beft players, that's swindle. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how they gonna get off these guys. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're probably gonna have to throw that twenty nine first

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Speaker 3: Until then, and that's the last one they holding on to.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have some of them cheerleaders, huh, throwing some

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Speaker 2: So Kobe got don't Kobe have too? They might have

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Speaker 2: We'll give you the twenty fool.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know to give you exactly exact exactly this.

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Speaker 2: This was a very bad performance for the Lakers, and

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Speaker 2: some wins, you know, stretch it to be you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, especially after I saw them what they did

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Speaker 2: have been playing very, very well. They beat the Clippers

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Speaker 1: That's it's like, it's the NBA. So you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the it's the the consistent See, if you're your consistency

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Speaker 3: Half, you're gonna lose more of the games than you're

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Speaker 1: So yes, you're gonna have to just say, all right,

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, the thing is the Lakers are playing so

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Speaker 2: you got Jason Tatum, JB, you got Dang and Giannis

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Speaker 2: and this game was over at the half. This game

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Speaker 2: and it was so bad. The starters didn't come back out,

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Speaker 2: they didn't play the second half. Yeah, they beat they

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Speaker 2: beat their booty off. They back tonight.

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Speaker 1: This was this was a staple for for the Bucks,

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Speaker 3: You know, one of the players is over there.

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Speaker 1: Ye had to really know that we are a better

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna go out there and prove it, right

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Speaker 2: because you know, the thing is where they're slipped is defensively.

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Speaker 2: Last year they're the fourth rated defensive team. Now they're

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Speaker 2: like in the twenties. If so, tonight, what did they

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Speaker 2: hold the selfsu would have thirty nine?

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Speaker 3: Yull me, god, what did they hold a selfish? You

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Speaker 2: It was like seven.

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Speaker 1: Man even even okay, even the stat that that's pushed

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Speaker 1: out there about the defense, it's it's it's Foods Gold, right,

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Speaker 1: it's Foods Gold. They were fourth last year and in

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Speaker 3: Right right?

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Speaker 1: You know last year they averaged one sixteen, gave up

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Speaker 3: Right. You know, so all that defense they had last year,

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Speaker 3: where the fuck did it get him first round exit

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Speaker 2: Well, we couldn't tell anything about that defense, cause way

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler lit him up in the playoffs. Remember Jimmy

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Speaker 2: like Michael Jordan and Kobe in the absolute prime and

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Speaker 3: The issue here.

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Speaker 1: It's like, can we get more offense than the defense?

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Speaker 1: And right now it's plus two. So the offense is

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Speaker 1: not a negative. They're just looking at the wrong stats.

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Speaker 1: They're looking at, oh, the defense, but the offense is

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Speaker 3: So I don't take the points over the defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't think anybody figured it was a

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Speaker 2: bad trade. I mean, you get an opportunity to get

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Speaker 2: than worth because you're getting Dame Lillard in return. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so I like the trade. Nobody can convince me this

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Speaker 2: they're taking Dame Lillard for a true Holiday type player also,

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Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 3: But for but for whatever reasons.

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Speaker 2: Gil it hadn't clicked as well as I thought it

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Speaker 2: John can give you forty thirteen to eight and Dame

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Speaker 2: not enough of that. Malik Beasley played and shoot the ball.

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Speaker 2: He's leading the league at three point field goal shooter.

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Speaker 2: Last year getting with Lebron he couldn't throw it in

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Speaker 3: Ocean, you know what sometimes and you know you can't.

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Speaker 1: We can't say that he's a better shooter without Lebron

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Speaker 3: It's nothing to do with the offense.

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Speaker 1: Right, you have the same shots when you had in Lakers.

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Speaker 1: You just worked on that this summer to improve your

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Speaker 3: Why the hell he ain't working on doing in between

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Speaker 1: Around same reason. A lot of guys don't work on it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You go in there, you take fifty twenty five threes

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Speaker 1: that's not a First of all, if you're not a

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Speaker 3: You're your eight nine years behind an actual natural shooter.

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Speaker 1: Five hundred shots a day outside of practice wow, for

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Speaker 3: Gonna turn around.

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Speaker 2: So if you're not putting in that type of work,

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Speaker 2: you're not really getting better. It was so bad TNT

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Speaker 2: even switched off the game. Now, that's what the NFL

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Speaker 2: That's never I've never seen that before. But I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, Dan, what I know. If I was on Boston,

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Speaker 2: ain't no way. I'm sorry, coach, Ain't no goddamn where you.

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Speaker 2: I ain't get my points yet, Ain't no where you taking.

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Speaker 3: Me out at the half? Nah? Yeah, that's what That's

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Speaker 3: what's so impressive about Lebron Street.

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Speaker 2: He's almost a damn there twelve hundred games with double figures,

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Speaker 2: and you see situations like this Jason Tatum, now he

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't know who's close to him,

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Speaker 2: You talk about the points, I mean, he's what three

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Speaker 2: Who the hell is gonna have twelve hundred straight game

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Speaker 2: with double double figures.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, I mean, and that's that's the most impressive part.

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Speaker 1: The impressive part is that he's doing it still at

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Speaker 3: Right. Someone tried to call me out on Twitter when

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Speaker 1: I said, well, when Michael Jordan was playing with the

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Speaker 3: They were supposed to be a playoff seed.

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Speaker 1: When they were said, no one talked bad about Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 1: thirty nine year old? Why expected to win when the

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Speaker 1: forty eight games, and then you know when they tried

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Speaker 1: to fact check me, it was right. They had high

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Speaker 2: And I'm saying because everybody said it was just it

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Speaker 2: your ceremony. Well that's what you said about Lebron, Old Lebron,

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Speaker 2: he cares more about being Michael B. Jordan than Michael Jordan. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he just excuse me. He disproved that All Star all NBA,

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Speaker 2: led the league in assists, won a championship. So now now,

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Speaker 2: because he didn't come out here for ceremony, he didn't

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Speaker 2: He ain't that. The man is playing at the unbelievable level.

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Speaker 2: It's still a team game and he needs that. May look,

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Speaker 2: that's the same thing. That's what y'all said. Y'all said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Listen, this game is what the problem is for like

436
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 1: a guy like me who values you know, players, Right,

437
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 1: when we're trying to convince you someone's not good, we

438
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: give you all the things they can't do, and then

439
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: when we talk about the past, we talk about everything

440
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: they can do. Right, so we tell you all the

441
00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: good things and the accolades of the past, and then

442
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,959
Speaker 1: the present we tell you everything they can't do. Oh,

443
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 1: he can't go one on one, he never takes a

444
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 1: last shot, he doesn't do this. This is all right?

445
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: What about the other guys. How about them, Let's let's

446
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: hear what their negatives are. Oh, he couldn't go left,

447
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 1: Oh he couldn't do this. He could, but we don't.

448
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: We just talk about their greatness and in our flaws.

449
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: And that's what keeps this thing going. Yeah, I mean

450
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 1: they always oh he's six and oh but what about

451
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 1: the first year? What about the year that he got

452
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: bounced in the first round. So in other words, you're

453
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: telling me it's better to lose in the first round

454
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: to lose in the NBA finals. I'm that's what it

455
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: sounds like you're saying to me. But look wherever you

456
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 1: are on this argument, Gil, I don't think anybody's moving

457
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: You are where you are in this argument. Some people

458
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: believe it's Jordan, some people believe it's Lebron, some people

459
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: believe it's Kobe. I don't believe anybody can put forth

460
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: the compelling argument to suade somebody to move off, whether

461
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: it's Kobe, Lebron or Jordan.

462
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: No, And that's and that's the thing.

463
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: At this point in time, these guys submitted themselves as

464
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: potential goat like figures.

465
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 3: And the people.

466
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 1: Who were there, who watched Michael Jordan Harry NB a league,

467
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: not a team.

468
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 3: He wasn't carrying the bulls.

469
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: He was carrying the league image right this He was

470
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: carrying this game. And the people who witnessed that and

471
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: saw that, they're not giving that up, you know, giving

472
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: it up.

473
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: That's just that's just not gonna happen.

474
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: So no matter Lebron could have twelve rings that they're

475
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna find there, it's right. So it's just one yeah

476
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 1: things where we got the we got we got, we

477
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: got him up there, and then everybody else is gonna

478
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: fall short to it because when they say it's about ring,

479
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: I said, well, Bill Russell has more rings.

480
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: John Havlachik, Sam Jones, Casey Jones. If it's about rings,

481
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: well it's about it, okay. But what about a guy

482
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 2: that that played, has been an All Star, about to

483
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: be twenty consecutive times as a starter. What about the

484
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: guys have the most all big NBA teams? What about

485
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: the guy that first, excuse mill, not only all NBA teams,

486
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 2: the All NBA First Team. What about a guy that

487
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: won championships in three different franchises and he was the

488
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 2: MVP at all different franchises. A guy average a triple

489
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: double in the NBA Finals and with what two rebounds

490
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 2: or left from Jordan Again. But like I said, wherever

491
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: you are in this argument, Gil, you're not moving. So

492
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: ain't no sense in us trying to convince anybody one

493
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: way or another.

494
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: And they just get on that leg. I'm gonna let

495
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 3: you stay. All they're gonna do is to you can't

496
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: use stats. You can't use stats, right, you.

497
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: Know it is, it is what it is at this point, right,

498
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: And you know the best thing for me is I

499
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 1: got to play with all three of them. You know,

500
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: there's only a few people that can say they played

501
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: with all three. Like so if you say your top

502
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: five greatest of all time, I get to say I

503
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: played with all five or four out of five, right, right,

504
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: depending on who you put in there. I mean, if

505
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: you start putting in the sixties in the seventies, no

506
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: then yet. But for the for the most part, most

507
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: of your your your top five ever, it is eighty

508
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: to now.

509
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of those guys you played against,

510
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: bore than that you played against, Shot, you played against

511
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, Yeah, I mean Tim Dugant don't get any credit.

512
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 3: They just make it seem like he was a bum.

513
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean Timmy, I mean the guy.

514
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean he was a fifteen time All Defensive Player,

515
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: all those all those All Star Game, all those all

516
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: NBA five rings, three finals, MVP. I think he won

517
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 2: two championships. I don't know if he ever won a

518
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, but he was outstanding.

519
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was. He was an He was amazing.

520
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: And it goes to show you what type of type

521
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: of talent that's been in this league, that's coming.

522
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: In this league.

523
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: And you know, like I came in as a fan,

524
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: so you know, I was stand boring out there. You know,

525
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, yeah, give me autograph after they ain't even

526
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 1: give me autograph. And it's one of those guys. So

527
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: you know it's I had I have all three of

528
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: them in the top five. So I just like the

529
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: polk and argue about all three. Right today, you know

530
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: it's Lebron, Tomorrow might be Jordan, Kobe might be there,

531
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So not one of those

532
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: guys that just.

533
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: I just I switch every week. I think that you

534
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: gotta you have another another Top five Melo said. The

535
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: Nuggets gave Nicola Jokic the number fifteen jersey to try

536
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: to eat a race. What he did, Mello called giving

537
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic jersey the same number he Warren Denver is

538
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: a is a petty maneuver. It wasn't like, oh, we

539
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: got a number to choose from. It was like here

540
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: you got fifteen, melo, ya, let me take this, fir Mello.

541
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: You do realize this guy was a second round European

542
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: player that when he got drafted, they was in the

543
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: middle of a Taco bell commercial.

544
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: So you really you really thought?

545
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: Who thought Nikola Jokic was gonna arguably be one of

546
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: our top ten player when it's all said and done,

547
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: because then it thought that they did choke him. Number

548
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: one overall was in the second round and plus Mellow,

549
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: you forget you forced.

550
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: Your way out.

551
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you forced your way out of relationship and

552
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: I don't hold you in high regard.

553
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: Please forgive me. No. No, that as right. He was

554
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: the second round pick.

555
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: Nobody knew he was gonna be No, it was I

556
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: remember when announcer said, I don't know if he was

557
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: playing against Houston, Oh, they'll put anybody in the game

558
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: when he was posting up. Yeah, right, So they didn't

559
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: know what he was gonna be. He know then to

560
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: this Unfortunately, he had the same.

561
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: Number you had. And nobody's gonna remember you wore fifteen.

562
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, mellow, but nobody's gonna remember you wore fifteen.

563
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: He's no more. And this is so I don't want

564
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: to say it, but you're a Nick player. Thank you,

565
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Nick player. Your career is New York Knicks.

566
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: Yes, like, we know what you did as a as

567
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: a rookie coming in. But four time All Start, one

568
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: time gold Man List, three time All NBA as a Nick,

569
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: six time All Star, two gold Medalist, three All NBA,

570
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: one scoring check.

571
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: Your jersey is in the rafters in the garden.

572
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: Yes, take that. And that's just it, you know. I

573
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: mean it hurts because that's who drafted you. But your

574
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: numbers ain't there in the bigger picture. But but the

575
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: fact that they have number twelve and fifty five retired,

576
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: which is fat Lever, uh huh.

577
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: And then the Cookie Dan and then the Cookie Monster muntumbo.

578
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: The fact that they got those two up there, you

579
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: got you gotta retire my jersey, Yeah no, they don't.

580
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: Got I thought they would have Dan Isfel know that

581
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: they got them, but they earned theirs. You know, Alex

582
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: English earned his. I'm fat lever. Come on you, yeah,

583
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: you're bad with the triple double before before Russ, Yeah, you.

584
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: Wasn't better than goddamn Mellow and Matumbo. Stop nuts.

585
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, Ma Tumbo bit all over

586
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: the place. He was in Philly, he was in Atlanta,

587
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: he was in Houston. So I mean, it's not like

588
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: he's like known for the Nuggets.

589
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: No.

590
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: So you know the fact that you have his jersey retired,

591
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: you know, I will feel some type of way. But

592
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, I, as a player didn't. I didn't do

593
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: that much there to really have a problem when I

594
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: know my body of work is in New York.

595
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's not like Melo. You had like

596
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: a Tom Brady career and then all of a sudden

597
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: they give somebody twelve. They gave a guy, they gave

598
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: a backup. I mean, he was a second round pick.

599
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: The guy got drafted is in the middle of a

600
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: Taco Bell commercial. Nobody could have foretold that he would

601
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: be this. Hey, nobody, you can't say that. That's even worse.

602
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: You can't give my number to the dude in the

603
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: second round. Row didn't give you my number to the

604
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: second round, Hi Cook. But here's the thing, Gil, The

605
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is that the guy turned out

606
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: and people won't remember him. My thing is they don't.

607
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who they're putting eighty four. The people

608
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: in Denver are gonna remember I wore number eighty four.

609
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: People gonna say that's Shannon Sharp enough now they mess

610
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: right it and let's just say that was Gronk or

611
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey. People are like, man, I don't remember who

612
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: war to damn eighty four before Gronk or Kelsey got it.

613
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: That's just the way it is. That's just the way

614
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: it is.

615
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: But when you take a basketball player, okay, it's more

616
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: likely guy in the second ride in the NFL makes

617
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: it or play as well, because we've seen a lot

618
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: of those. Is not likely that a second round NBA

619
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: player is gonna have the type of career that Nicola

620
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Yoka just said.

621
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not. I mean, it wasn't expected. They probably

622
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: didn't they I mean they didn't. They didn't foresee this, man,

623
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things that happened, right,

624
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: you know.

625
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you don't. You don't.

626
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: You didn't have the resume.

627
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if you had the Knicks resume over there, right,

628
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, then we can talk.

629
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: But you're you're His legacy is a New York name. Yes,

630
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: it is what it is. And the guys. The guy

631
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: as an NBA A two times back to back MVP.

632
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: He's a finals MVP, and when it's all said and done,

633
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna see it where, We're gonna see where it ranks.

634
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean right now he's gonna be ranked running

635
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: that franchise.

636
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. That said.

637
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: He that's done. That's done. Now he got played. He

638
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: ain't got to play another down. He ain't excuse me

639
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: another game. That's it for him.

640
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

641
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: Two MVP's finals MVP. And the numbers that he's putting

642
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: up with. The dude has what one hundred and twelve

643
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen trip with doubles? Yep, and he's less

644
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: than what ten years in the league maybe ten years now?

645
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: He was drop did nine twenty fifteen, so eight years.

646
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, mellow, And I know I look, when

647
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: a guy words your number, you're like, oh man, this

648
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: joke ain't worth that having my number you know, he's

649
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: more than worse. And what's gonna happen is that people

650
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: in Denver will have forgotten that you actually wore that number.

651
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: I mean, the black people will remember.

652
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: And it's just it's the black people remember. I mean,

653
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things, like my jersey finally

654
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: got used this year a lottery pick. Will he do

655
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: the things I did?

656
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: I hope not? But if he do that, you hope.

657
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: I hope he don't.

658
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: But you know the fact that you know that I

659
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: thought my jersey was being hidden for you know, you

660
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: know they frownd the pond, right, you know, so the

661
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: fact that they let someone wear it, it kind of

662
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: makes me proud of Okay, finally, shit, I thought you

663
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: can just burn up zero out of the archives.

664
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have my my number at Savanna State retired.

665
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: And even before it got retired, my coach Bill Davis said, nobody,

666
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: as long as I'm the head coach, ain't nobody wearing

667
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: that number because nobody had ever had their jersey retired.

668
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: And I think in two thousand and nine when they

669
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 2: finally retired retired it. But from eighty from when I

670
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: left at eighty nine, nobody had even War from eighty

671
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: nine to two thousand nine, so twenty seasons nobody even

672
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: had that jersey. Now, can't no one wear it unless I,

673
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: unless Savannah State and I we both have to give

674
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: consent to let somebody wear it.

675
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: And uh, I know. My thing is, why would you

676
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: want to.

677
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: A three time All American, a Conference Player of the Year,

678
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: offensive player to year, three times Georgia's Player of the Year.

679
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: Why would you want number two? You won't, You don't,

680
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: nobody's nobody's dumb. Nobody won't.

681
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Nobody wants that pressure man.

682
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: You know you know what's happening. The Magic will retire

683
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Shacks number thirty two. There's no question he's the best

684
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: player in magic history, followed closely behind dwighte.

685
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: Oh you think you get oh you got d White

686
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: in magic history. You know you got only there in

687
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: four years, that's it, right.

688
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: But like we're not talking about, you know, Shack's body

689
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: of work. We're just saying, Orlando, that's four years. I mean, yeah,

690
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: you was breaking back and fords and stuff. But you know,

691
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: three time All NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

692
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: You know you got you know, rebounding.

693
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Champ All Stars, six All NBA's and six. Like his

694
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: resume is just bigger than Shacks in that jersey. Yeah,

695
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the best, the better player, of

696
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: course talent wise, Shack, But in that jersey, it's white, right.

697
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: Shack made a statement early when the Rookie of the Year,

698
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: averaging twenty three point four points fourteen rebounds in.

699
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: His first first campaign at the Rookie of the Year.

700
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: He led the Magic to the NBA Finals of the

701
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five and posted four All Star season. Okay,

702
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, what do you have Shacking

703
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: your all time rankings?

704
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: I have him, I have him. I bounced from four

705
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: to five. You got him that between him and Magic? Yeah,

706
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: because because I seen him close, you know what I mean.

707
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: I seen him up clothes. That's how I kill.

708
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: I've seen how he talked to the defense and what

709
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: we had to do to try to stop him. Right,

710
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: I have him four or five is between him and

711
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Magic at the four or five. But he's my number

712
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: one draft pick. I'm drafting him number one. He's my

713
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth. But if I got the first pick,

714
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm grabbing Shack every time. Wow, that's very interesting.

715
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: Because you know, the best, the double one overall pick

716
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: that gets voted all the time is Lebron.

717
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I know who who's gonna get voted

718
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: number one.

719
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: But I know what happens when you have Shakill Loan

720
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: O'Neill in the game, right, and you're gonna have to

721
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: draft players. You're gonna have to like, hey, hey you hey, hey,

722
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: you want to play basketball? You know the lift weights?

723
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: Come on, they gotta go to Gohos Gym for shack. Yeah,

724
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: you ain't even I got football? Who want to come

725
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: come on here? You're wrong, you got you got? You

726
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: gotta go get a Miles Gary. You gotta go get

727
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: some defensive line with something five to seventy five to

728
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: deal with Shaq that's used to that physicality, because I

729
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: don't there's not an NBA player that's ever been physical

730
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: enough to deal with him one on one. That's why

731
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: he I mean, they created the hack of Shock because

732
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: he was just he was just unstoppable.

733
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: You got one and he's gonna punish you on the block.

734
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: He gonna clear it out, he gonna drop step, and

735
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: he gonna dunk it. He ain't laying nothing up. I

736
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: don't know if I've ever seen Shack lay the ball up.

737
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: No, and he ain't trying to and with some funny

738
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: as I had Baron Davis on today and he said

739
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: the same thing that I was always alluding to when

740
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: because how physical shock was, he didn't block shots, he

741
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: didn't do it, but because he was so massive and

742
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: his defense was I'm gonna hit you so.

743
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: Hard, you're not gonna come in this Slane no more

744
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 3: made everybody.

745
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: Else look like they were great defensive players because back there,

746
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: like so when I want to draw, it's like, oh no,

747
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: I don't want to get hit by that dude.

748
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: Like we injured, like I'm you know what I mean.

749
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: So that was his presence too, the defensive presence of Lebron.

750
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: Ain't driving, d Wayne.

751
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: We ain't driving like you know AI coming there, but

752
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, ay, I gonna get hit. We were scared

753
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: to go in there and get hit by Shack. We

754
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: didn't want that first shock hit or that second shock hit.

755
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I got his third, all right, if I can get

756
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: the fourth on him?

757
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: Yes at the half?

758
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Who other than that, hell no, yeah, you better not

759
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: let him have one or two coming out of the half.

760
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, yeah, because he gonna say, hey, let him.

761
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 3: Let him come over here and drive.

762
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: I got something for him, right Yeah, I mean, but

763
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: you know, early in his career, Jack was a shot blocker.

764
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: I think he had averager with three point three blocks

765
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: of the game. Yeah, he was. I mean when he

766
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: was at JIB.

767
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: But when he got to l A and he realized

768
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: that I would not get dunked on if I if

769
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: I if I if, I give you an example, and that's

770
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: what that example was. I'm just gonna I'm gonna go

771
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: like this and I'm gonna use my hip and hit

772
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: you out the air.

773
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I don't have him in my top

774
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: five before I give you my top five. The Jannis

775
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: Guess what number Yannis is wearing in Milwaukee? Thirty four?

776
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Who were thirty four at Milwaukee? Rey aality? I mean

777
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: nobody thought, hello, if they thought Jannis was gonna be this,

778
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: they took him earlier.

779
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: Yes he was.

780
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: He was a skinny kid. When do you go like

781
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: thirteen or fourteen. He was a skinny kid out of Greece.

782
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean you don't know, Uh, it's it's you, okay,

783
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: what you look for in drive fifteen he was taking

784
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: fifteenth Gil. Yeah, I think he was like right outside

785
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: the lottery, what happens what happens in the NBA when

786
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: you have someone who's eighteen nineteen, right, you're going off

787
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: of the skill set, the potential lock arms, right, Yes, see,

788
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: can they run up and down and then you hope

789
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: that they have the work at to want to get better. Yes,

790
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: But for the most part you're looking at measurements, and

791
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: his measurements was like, okay, we can do something with this. Yes,

792
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: then you know what, And that's if they know this

793
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be him and he's gonna gain thirty something

794
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: forty pounds in the next two years and be the

795
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: MVP number one pick.

796
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 3: Yes, but they're not looking at those men.

797
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: They're looking at Okay, we can guide him, and he

798
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: looks like he can be fifteen maybe one time All Star.

799
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: We can deal with that.

800
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: The mere fact that we have to debate Shaq being

801
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: in the top five of the travesty because of his size,

802
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: his athleticism had he as he worked his tail.

803
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: Let's just say he had a third of the worker.

804
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: I think it's Kobe A Jordan or Lebron shackspplted to

805
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: have thirty five thousand points.

806
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, if the refs called the game like they

807
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 5: were supposed to, he would have had thirty five tous

808
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: quarter right right, you know it's it's it's one of

809
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 5: those things where in the NBA, the stronger players cry

810
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: the most because the stronger players are getting hit the most.

811
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: Yes, right, And that's just how the game is. That

812
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: Shack is coming down there to post up, and he's

813
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: posted up on me. Trust me, They're gonna allow me

814
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: to do whatever I can, yeah.

815
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: To try to get him out of this lane.

816
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: So imagine what people were trying to do to get

817
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: him off that spot.

818
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: Two hands were sitting here.

819
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: Doing this, hey get it, push, we don't you got

820
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: six hands in the back, and Shack is just come on,

821
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: come on down here, come on out here.

822
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: And and it was one of those things.

823
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: So the fact that if they just called the game fair,

824
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: which you can't, right, you can't, he would be the

825
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: thirty five free throws a game because you you have

826
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: to file him or.

827
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 3: You get Yeah.

828
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: I think the thing is is that when you look

829
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: at Shack and you see the athleticism, I mean, he's

830
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: a bigger, more Shack is more athletic. I'm talking about

831
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: just athletic. I'm saying you don't have to touch the

832
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: field like a Joel Embiid. But as far as just

833
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: running drop step, Shack had it all. People don't realize

834
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: how big Shaq was and how athletic he was to

835
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: get up and down the court. But he didn't take

836
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: training series, he didn't take his diet series. Because had

837
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: he had he taken that serious, maybe he could have

838
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: warned about some of those injuries.

839
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: Because you know, that's a big man. That's a big

840
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: that's a big man, that's.

841
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: A lot of weight that you're asking to get up

842
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: and down the court playing thirty five thirty seven minutes

843
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: a night at three hundred and thirty five, three hundred

844
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: and forty five pounds, and you're asking him to play

845
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: at least seventy games a season.

846
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 3: And that's asking an awful lot.

847
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: Gil And so had he taken care of himself, put

848
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: the time in the condition, put the time in to

849
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: eat right, even without the because a lot he missed

850
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: a lot of games because of injuries. So even even

851
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: without the files, just being on the court, just think

852
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 2: about he just being on the court.

853
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 3: Go get you twenty four twenty five to night.

854
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: What they know today they didn't know that, and right,

855
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's like even today you tell Janni's, hey,

856
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: you need to work on your jump shot to extend

857
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: your career, to make the game easier.

858
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: It's an MVP and a champ, right right, we.

859
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Look stupid telling them that, just like people will look

860
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: stupid telling Shaq, who got the MVP finals in VP

861
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: three rings, that hey, man, you need to get in shape.

862
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: He gonna look at you for what.

863
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, right now, I'm the best player in the

864
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: league right now.

865
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: Anybody you give me the guy that's eating Saturday, I'm

866
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: a bus his head. Yeah. So that's that's that's how Shack,

867
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: That's how Shaq thought.

868
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: But you're right because once it's hard to convince somebody

869
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: when they've had success doing it their way, to convince

870
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: them to change it. Gilts like, change what. I'm a

871
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: two time league MVP, I'm a finals MVP. Shaq is like,

872
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: brug Do you see how dominant I am? Yeah, but

873
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: just think about how dominant you could have been. Because

874
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: see the thing like, see this is the thing that

875
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: you love about Kobe, Mike and Lebron. No matter what

876
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: you think about each player, there's no doubt in your mind.

877
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: They empty the tank. They got everything out of their

878
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: god given ability. There's nothing when Lebron. Lebron probably just

879
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: gonna be being in the middle of a game and

880
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: just pull aside the road.

881
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: Hey I'm done.

882
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: Just like you know, you got a car and that

883
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're not paying attention to that

884
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: red light, come on, you out of gas, and all

885
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: you can do is just hopefully you're not on the

886
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: pull five in the middle of the full five and

887
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: you can just get on to the side and get

888
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: on off. That's that's that's how Lebron is. I mean,

889
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: he's taking care of his body and everybody's coming in.

890
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're gonna have a twenty year career,

891
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: like a twenty plus career like Lebron's, like Lebron, but

892
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: it greatly increases your chance if you take care of yourself,

893
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: if you get your risk, if you train, if you

894
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: get your shots up, try to get better every year,

895
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: because Lebron is not as athletic as he once was.

896
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 2: Because that's what I tell guys. When athletics starts the way,

897
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 2: then what are you gonna do? Because when you can't

898
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: outrun somebody. You can't out jump somebody.

899
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: Then what.

900
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: This Yep, my mind, it's it's just it's just it's understanding,

901
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's your purpose too, you know.

902
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: The purpose is Jordan's purpose was to be the greatest ever?

903
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: Right, yes, So with that being said, that's that's him

904
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: getting better into like, okay, this is what I need

905
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: to bring in. Is so when he went into the summer,

906
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: he self checked himself. He didn't go off the glory

907
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: of the accolades itself. It was just he was a

908
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: hard worker. Yes, right, yes, that was the model. Klobe

909
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: followed him. Yes, right, I'm chasing that. I'm not chasing

910
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: the NBA players here. They're not on my they're not

911
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: on my planet. I want that dude, right, guess what

912
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: Lebron is looking at. So because they're looking at the

913
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: same two men, they have to keep going right, And

914
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: I tell a lot of players that do not.

915
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: Follow someone that's not on the planet. So when you

916
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: look up, you can see how far so you can

917
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: keep moving forward. You start looking in real time.

918
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: You know this guy's here that no, no, no, look

919
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: at Michael Jordane, look at Kareem, Look at these guys

920
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: that they look like they're it's impossible to catch them.

921
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: And when your career is.

922
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: Done, even if you didn't get to them, you're gonna

923
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: be far better than the people you was on the

924
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: same planet with.

925
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: I think the thing is gil what Michael did. He

926
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: was the first player to give something, give other players

927
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: someone to chase. He was the rabbit that they were

928
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: chasing because proud of Mike. I mean, Kareem. It wasn't Will,

929
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: it wasn't Russell. Mike gave somebody like, Okay, I need

930
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: to be like Mike. Those commercials, those shoes, the blueprint

931
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: the way I mean Mike. You ain't see Mike unless

932
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: he was impeccably dressed. You see Michael a twist suit.

933
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: Mikeel have that they ain't gonna have that hoop in

934
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: his ear. Might gonna be, Hey, Mike gonna be having

935
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: that Sue had no more bigs, gonna have them blue

936
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: foot so that they ain't gonna the ain't gonna be fitted,

937
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: but Mike gonna be impeccably dressed. So he gave you

938
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: the blueprint of how to build a brand. And so

939
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: he gave you the He gave you the blueprint this

940
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: is the way you need to conduct yourself. This is

941
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 2: what you need to do. For the first time they

942
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: had someone to chase, they gave you he He.

943
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: Was the the idea of what a star supposed to

944
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: look like. Walk talk score like. When people think about

945
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: the knock on Lebron, it's not clutch. He don't take

946
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: the game win. That came because of Michael Jordan's right.

947
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: That wasn't in the Wilson all those guys. Was it

948
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: in the resume?

949
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: You didn't use that against players, But when you sat

950
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: there and said I need one of those, it was

951
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: everything he wrung.

952
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: But you know what, Gil Lebron has more game wining

953
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: shots than Jordan.

954
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this notion that he is at clutch, you know,

955
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 2: people started that myth.

956
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: It got perpetuated.

957
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: These people feel if I tell it loud enough, people

958
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: are starting to believe it, even though it's not the truth.

959
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: And so you know, repeating a lot doesn't make it true.

960
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: But if you tell a lie long enough, people are

961
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: starting to believe it as the truth.

962
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: Go back and look at Lebron in the playoffs.

963
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Look at Lebron against Indiana, look at him against Chicago,

964
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: against US too, y'all look at that team he got

965
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals against the Celtics.

966
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: That was the one on four. You mean to tell

967
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: me he wasn't clutch.

968
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: You know what it is, Uh, it ain't about the clutch.

969
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: It's about how that clutch shot looked. Right, when you

970
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: think about all of Jordan's clutch shots, they just looked

971
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: like it looked like movie scripts.

972
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 3: Right, he held the poles.

973
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 2: They remember the double clutch against Craig Elo because Craig

974
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: Lelo has got the block it. He moved it to

975
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: the he moved it back this way. Shot it. It's

976
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: it's it's the whole. That's why I said he was

977
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: meant for that spot.

978
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Right when you go back in the archives and you

979
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: start looking up game winners, his game winners just look

980
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: better than everybody else's.

981
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what it was. I mean, the tongue

982
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: hanging out.

983
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: You know, he had the baggage shorts, he had the

984
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: Denis lee pulled down over his calf, he had he

985
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: had the wristband on his elbow. He was slightly pigeon

986
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: told he kind of you know, he got a dapt

987
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: when he was walking and so and and when they

988
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: came out. I mean I think it was gatorade that

989
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: came be like Mike, that was it.

990
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: That was it. That might be the greatest. Look.

991
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: That might be the greatest because now people associated that

992
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: that's who I want to be like. And the and

993
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: the shoes just took it to a whole new level

994
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: because people actually lead that. I ain't you. That's the

995
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: shoes that got you doing that. Man, let me go

996
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: get me a pair, and I have me a forty

997
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: inch vernacle. Everybody.

998
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: You had light skinned man out there cutting their head

999
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: trying to look like Mike.

1000
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, situation. It didn't matter what color your team was.

1001
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: You could be greedy gold, you could be black and

1002
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: gold you had all ready. You had a red and

1003
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: white shoe though, bro, that don't even match. You didn't

1004
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: get a black uniform. You got to get an all

1005
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: black uniform.

1006
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: Man.

1007
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 2: I mean you saw guys with probably all different kinds

1008
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: of color and they had the Jordans on and and

1009
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, nobody, I don't care how good

1010
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: the shoe is. There might be a shoe that comes

1011
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: along give it might add three or four inches to

1012
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: your birth. It ain't passing the Jordan, it ain't that

1013
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 2: too big a believe. It's the idea. It's the idea

1014
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: of perfection, right, it's the idea of perfection. And if

1015
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: it don't, if it don't look like it, right, it's

1016
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: never gonna measure up.

1017
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: And there's nothing that's gonna come into the league that

1018
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: has everything Jordan had not in our lifetime.

1019
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not going to happen. And so, uh,

1020
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: that's that's where we are. I mean, he came up

1021
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: and the thing was gil. I remember, there are a

1022
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: lot of guys that had shoes. Magic had the weapons.

1023
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: He and Bird Kareem had the top ten of Zita's. Uh,

1024
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: Doctor j had the cons. But once the player retired,

1025
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: Once the player retired, the shoe line went wait nobod,

1026
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: they didn't make the weapons anymore. They didn't make the

1027
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: Doctor Jay's anymore. Jordan was the only one who retired.

1028
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: They kept making a shoe and it's bigger.

1029
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: Listen, nobody got beat up ing on goddamn Magic Johnson's

1030
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: and Lady birds Hell Dog.

1031
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: I had them.

1032
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: I moved up the river. I had I had the weapons.

1033
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: I had the Magic and the birds. I had the

1034
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: Geordans to my mom and I got the Jordan two's

1035
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: ended up backtracking and getting the Jordan Ones. I had

1036
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: the spud Webs, the City Wing Ponies, I had the

1037
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: Doctor j the Yeah. But there was something about that shoe.

1038
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 2: You felt special. You felt special with that shoe.

1039
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: That was a nice I mean, I mean, just to

1040
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: be honest, like it was one of those things where

1041
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: we stood in them. It was like when the Jordan's dropped,

1042
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: it was a kid's It was a kid's event. Yes,

1043
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: I remember they used to drop it on what Tuesdays,

1044
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: Tuesday's ten o'clock. We ain't in school, right, We at

1045
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: the foot locker and we as soon as I get him,

1046
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: we running the lunch a.

1047
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: I got him. We did get Rob going back to school.

1048
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: If we didn't get it Rob going back to school,

1049
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 3: we cry because we had them first.

1050
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: But they drop them during the weekday and we used

1051
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: to get them at ten. We're gonna get the shoes first,

1052
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: then we're gonna come to school.

1053
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: And they talked about it and then they put them

1054
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: on the weekend and then to gil. You know, man,

1055
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: I ain't paying no hundle dollfs on those shoes. Don't

1056
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: worry about it. There are a lot of people that

1057
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: will you won't well, you won't get a pair man

1058
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars because most of the time the hue like

1059
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: twenty five fifty dollars.

1060
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 3: He doubled the price, double them.

1061
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: He doubled the price one hundred dollars for a pair

1062
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: of shoes back in the mid eighties. Was acid was crazy,

1063
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: but we had never seen anything like it because the

1064
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: shoes were just basically one colorway. So now you got

1065
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: a double or triple colorwave red, black and white. Yeah, red,

1066
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: the bread the red, the black and the red. So

1067
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: that changed the game. And like you knew it, they

1068
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: couldn't wory about to find David Sturt said, We're gonna

1069
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 2: fidre you a five thousand, Like di, don't worry about it.

1070
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: We got that one thousand. They was finding the five thousand.

1071
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 2: But the publicity that they were getting for that, where

1072
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: else are you gonna get that kind of attention, that

1073
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: kind of eyeballs, because that's what advertise. You want to see. Well,

1074
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: who's looking at it? How many impressions is he getting? Well,

1075
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: that shoe got millions and millions of impressions, even before

1076
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: we knew what impressions were, but they knew what that

1077
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: Jordan's shoe was and it hadn't looked back. The NBA

1078
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: Draft is moving to a two night event. Do you

1079
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: like the NBA draft trying to be more like the

1080
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: NFL draft?

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00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 3: Certainly what the.

1082
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 2: NBA draft is moving to a two night event? Do

1083
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: you like it just trying to be like the NFL?

1084
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: Uh?

1085
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 3: One is dumb because it ain't. This ain't the NFL.

1086
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: Right, you ain't gonna find Tom Brady's in the seventh round,

1087
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: you'd like, Right, no one's watching the draft after lottery.

1088
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: So unless it's gonna be the first day the first

1089
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: five picks, and then the second day everybody else after

1090
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: the lottery pick, we not watching no more because after

1091
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: the lottery pick, how many superstars are we getting?

1092
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1093
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean in the last one since two thousand, since

1094
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, the only all stars is what Passal and

1095
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: Jokisch Wow? After the lottery? So what the hell are

1096
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: we watching this the second.

1097
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 3: Day for exactly? And that's the fact. And here's the thing, Gil.

1098
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: A lot of it has to do with we never

1099
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: heard of these guys, these guys that come from overseas

1100
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: unless you die hardest of the NBA fans, you've never

1101
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: heard of these guys. So it's not like the NFL,

1102
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: you've heard all these guys that's coming from Alabama, Ohio State,

1103
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: or Michigan.

1104
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: They're coming from teams that you've heard. And the NBA

1105
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: does a.

1106
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: Great job of leading up to the draft talking about

1107
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: said individuals that could be in the first round and

1108
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: the second round. So I don't look, I get it.

1109
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: Everybody's trying to keep up, but the NFL. Look, the

1110
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: NFL has cornered the market. They've cornered the market. There's

1111
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: a reason why they're doing twenty five thirty fifty million,

1112
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: fifty million viewers in a game.

1113
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: The NBA. The NBA would like, how do we do that?

1114
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't because no, go ahead, Gil, go ahead,

1115
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: You just can't. You can't.

1116
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: And unless you're gonna go backwards, Unless you're gonna go backwards, right,

1117
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna.

1118
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 3: Start with the last pick, you get the first in that?

1119
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: Why why am I watching the second round? Who wants

1120
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: to see Mark Tatum come up?

1121
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 5: Is that?

1122
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: Is that part of is that Tatum's uncle? Hold up, Well,

1123
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: no one knows him. He's calling in the second not

1124
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: the commissioner, right, David sterndon't call my name, right, I

1125
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: don't even know who.

1126
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: Called my name.

1127
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's Adam Silver, the one who's doing

1128
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: it now this round, Mark Tatum, he coming up there.

1129
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: But no, get off the stage, man.

1130
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: This is like watching the second round is like watching

1131
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: De City's Child without Beyonce not coming to that.

1132
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: Y'all, Well we ain't coming either, exactly. And so I

1133
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: mean I understand. I mean it's a situation that that

1134
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: the NBA is trying to like im plus. You know

1135
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: your advertise, you stretch it out. But the NBA of

1136
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: corner that market, they know, think about what they did.

1137
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: They put sold the Saturday in that game, put it

1138
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: on Peacock. And guess what game they put on Peacock

1139
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: to Kansas City Why Taylor Swill guess who the game?

1140
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: Those young girls eyeballs that you normally wouldn't get. But

1141
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: in order for them to get it, you gotta have Peacock.

1142
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: Peacock paid. I'm seeing they played one hundred, one hundred

1143
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: and ten million dollars just to televise one game. But

1144
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna get eyeballs that we don't normally get. That's

1145
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: why they show on Taylor Swift. I'm not bad. I'm

1146
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: not bad at them. I'm not. This is a business

1147
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 2: and Taylor Swift bring young girls that don't that doesn't

1148
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: normally watch football. They bring those eyes, and the NFL

1149
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: understands that. That's why they keep showing on them. And

1150
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: y'all could take it. Y'all can say, oh, I didn't,

1151
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: I didn't have watched the game. It's not like you

1152
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: turn it so I I'm not mad at the NFL.

1153
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm not mad. I mean, but what you wanted to do?

1154
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: You don't want it to come to the game and

1155
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: support the man.

1156
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: No, No, seriously, I mean they milking it. They know how,

1157
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: But that's not the end. That's not the NBA. NBA

1158
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: kicking around as two B. It's the two v Ain't

1159
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: nobody watching that sh right?

1160
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: Someone named Ocho Sinko Johnson just donated four hundred dollars.

1161
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: I beat I beat Shaq when he's the l s

1162
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: U one on one. Bro, everybody saw you running the

1163
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: Ray Lewis and get paying cake. Kick your damnself?

1164
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: How this Oak show? God damn.

1165
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 2: Broh. But you like a mosquito on the rhino ass.

1166
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 2: He wouldn't even failt you back there?

1167
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Hey, actually we might take you with the We might

1168
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: take you with the Lakers. Bad throw that out there,

1169
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: mad mad mad o cho band Shaq would have punished oo,

1170
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: mean you got bid you?

1171
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: First of all, he don't know how to play defense

1172
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 3: down of the block.

1173
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: All Shaq go to do is just drop step and

1174
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: when he swing his elbow, there he gonna be in

1175
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: the second row. So shows the funniest man. Bad that dude,

1176
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what you got going on. Charles Barkley

1177
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: to Night said his New Year's resolution is to give

1178
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: up diet coke. Gil, what's your advice and what's your

1179
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: New Year's real? I don't have New Year's resolutions.

1180
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 3: Huh.

1181
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: The reason is one, it's it's it's just another day, right,

1182
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: And when you do resolutions, to me, it seems like

1183
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: you have a flaw in something. Right. I need to

1184
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: give up, right, you need to New Year to do that.

1185
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: Just get it shit upright, you know. So I don't

1186
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: usually have those. I have goals. Just just set right,

1187
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: you know. I'm trying to be you know, fifty fifty

1188
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: million views over.

1189
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: All, that's just the goal. I'm trying. There's no time

1190
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: on it.

1191
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 1: It's just this is where I want to get to, right,

1192
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: because all these New year goals do is well, I

1193
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: need to get in shape. You got thirty one days

1194
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: in your ass is back to normal because you didn't

1195
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: have the discipline. You didn't create the habits to do

1196
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do the next day.

1197
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: Right.

1198
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: The thing of gil is that when you look at it,

1199
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: when you sell a goal or you sell a diet,

1200
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: they have a start and an end time. So let

1201
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: me ask you a question. Once you reach your resolution,

1202
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: then what hopefully you go back? Do you go do

1203
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: you go back to Okay? I did it and start

1204
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: eating or whatever whatever whatever you wanted to give up.

1205
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 3: So once you accomplished that, then what sir? So?

1206
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: I had a soda habit and I was like, I

1207
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: need to break I need to break this habit.

1208
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: Right, And because I understand how many sold you would

1209
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: drinking to day kill seven seven don't watch.

1210
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: God, I mean hit them a like a like it

1211
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: was like it was barbecue. I'll finish just like that.

1212
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: I was drinking seven wow. So But because I I

1213
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: I broke the soda habit. How I trained, right? I

1214
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: had to create the habit first. So the habit was,

1215
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: if I'm doing seven a day this first week, get

1216
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: it down to six a day, then the next week

1217
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: three a day.

1218
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: Then it would days like towards before I gave it up.

1219
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm just taking a sip, throwing it out, sip, throwing

1220
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: it out.

1221
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 3: And then it became two SIPs a week.

1222
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: Right now, I haven't drinking any soda, right, And that's

1223
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: how I do stuff like if I want to if

1224
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: I want to get in shape, I'm you know, I

1225
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: wanted to lose fifty pounds and I was two seventy

1226
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: you know last year and I was trying to lose

1227
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1228
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: So what you get down to now, the SODA's hunk.

1229
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's a lot of that's a lot

1230
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: of caffeine. That's a lot of sugar.

1231
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: Out of sugar. I'm a sugar I'm a sugar guy.

1232
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: So I got down to I got I'm two twenty now,

1233
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: been to twenty four, but eight months an hour. But

1234
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: that started.

1235
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: Seven month journey where it was my goal was wake

1236
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: up every day and leave the house. I need to

1237
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: do that for a month, right, wake up every day,

1238
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: leave the house right then, once I got that under

1239
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 1: my belt, wake up every day, go to the gym.

1240
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: Not necessarily work out, just get to the gym right

1241
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: if I worked out twelve days too hard and then

1242
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: eventually I just started adding on to it.

1243
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: But I had to create those everyday habits first.

1244
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: And most people try to just say I'm gonna go

1245
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: in and I mean I'm gonna work out and do this,

1246
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: and then you go in there and then because that's

1247
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: not your natural habit and you haven't created that habit,

1248
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: you always fail to it.

1249
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: So set little goals first that you know you can do.

1250
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 1: Wake up every day, make the bed once you got

1251
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: that pack, check wait yere date, get out of the house.

1252
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: But you gotta make the band ogil because you know,

1253
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: you don't shut the covers more dark, so the bed

1254
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: all mess it.

1255
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 3: You know, you don't chuck the covers more dumb. But

1256
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: you got to create those habits. People don't want to

1257
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: create the habits first.

1258
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: So if you can't, if you don't have any habits

1259
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: that you do every day, then you can't.

1260
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 3: Be successful anyway. This is just life goals.

1261
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing is the thing is that

1262
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: my grandpa used to tell my brother and I. He said, boys,

1263
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: never a mistake habit for hard work. Sometimes people feel

1264
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: like just because they do something over and over, they

1265
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: work hard. We've seen people go to the gym five years,

1266
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: ten years, and anybody never changed.

1267
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: Well, see, that's a habit.

1268
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: That's a routine in which you've established going at nine o'clock,

1269
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: ten o'clock. But you're not working hard because your body

1270
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: hasn't changed. So what it tells me that you're not

1271
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: working hard or you haven't changed your eating habits, whichever

1272
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: the case may be, it's a habit. Some people like, man,

1273
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: I wake up and I work up at six o'clock

1274
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: in the morning, okay, and do what man? I just

1275
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: get Okay, So I mean hell bees are busy. Tell

1276
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean you do the damn thing. At least bees

1277
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: they have, you know, they moving stuff around, they're building,

1278
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: they building, you know, a hide or a comb or

1279
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. So this notion just because

1280
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: you've established a habit that you're working hard, you're fooling yourself.

1281
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: Too many people mistake habit for hard work. And so.

1282
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: That's why I don't do dark dyts because diets have

1283
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: start stops they have end dates.

1284
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: I have a lifestyle.

1285
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: I eat a certain way, and then when I eat

1286
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: too much of that one thing, now, all of a sudden,

1287
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 2: I get back and say, Okay, I gotta cut this out.

1288
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: I gotta get back on my got to get back

1289
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: on the cardio. I gotta get back on the roll

1290
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: machine and get back on the salt bike. And that's

1291
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: so me. But uh, these people, they'd be fooling themselves.

1292
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: I'll be a damn get I want to call you man.

1293
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 3: When you do Hey, hey, listen, you do four shows?

1294
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: It on your God damn, I'm on yoe.

1295
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 2: Okay, but people people be, people be thinking they're working

1296
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: hard Gill, and they really not.

1297
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: But that's self checking.

1298
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1299
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: That was me too.

1300
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: I was going in the gym, you know a lot,

1301
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: and just sitting there. I was booty watching. Not gonna

1302
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: lie everybody, no booty watching, you know what I mean

1303
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: to do.

1304
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: They had a little tiny they had a little tiny

1305
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: shorts on. Oh look, I mean Woodland Hills on coming

1306
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: in there, make up everything gone.

1307
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ain't trying to work out, you try trying

1308
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: to catch come out there, judge like.

1309
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: You were that yesterday girl. You mustn't go home, right,

1310
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're just booty watching. I wasn't in there

1311
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: trying to lose no weight. And then eventually it start

1312
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: packing up. I started looking fat on TV that line.

1313
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: I mean, go ahead and take this, take this serious.

1314
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: Let me get this off. Ridney, my whomeboy, Ridney Dnkins Rock.

1315
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 2: What's up? I got my fourth bottle of Portier on

1316
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: the way. Also, I asked Ray about needing to reach

1317
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: out to your team about trying to come on your

1318
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: show for the Olympics. I was pleased with his response,

1319
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: that's my homeboy. His dad used to coach me on

1320
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: when I was on a I probably how it was.

1321
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: I probably was like nine. I probably was nine, So

1322
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 2: I've been He's from my hometown. We called him Rock,

1323
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: and so I appreciate the support.

1324
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 3: Rock.

1325
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure if they've reached out back after you

1326
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: and gave you a response, they own it. Uh two

1327
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: Pinet three snipers said, hey, uh Ca, and about your

1328
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: big fan, this is for Gil. If you could take

1329
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: injuries out, how high do you think you would have

1330
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: reached in NBA Greats Top seventy five, top fifty.

1331
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: To be honest, I mean I would have been top

1332
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: seventy five for sure.

1333
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: You know, what I was doing at that time was

1334
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: unheard of, right, you know, I was a three time

1335
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: All Star, three time All NBA.

1336
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: By the age of twenty five.

1337
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: That's not a big list, you know, being dominated that fast,

1338
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, averaging twenty eight twenty nine. So I was

1339
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: gonna win a scoring title, you know, with the way

1340
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: my metrics was running, I was gonna win a scoring title.

1341
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 3: You know, Dwayne Wade end up winning one with thirty.

1342
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: So you know, once everyone started getting their teams better,

1343
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: and I was gonna be one of those guys that

1344
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: you know.

1345
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 3: That led the league in scoring. I had the advantage.

1346
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: You know, everyone thought AI was the guy who changed

1347
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: the point guard position.

1348
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: It was me because they moved him to the.

1349
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: Two when I came in, bigger guard, a shooting guard

1350
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: played the point.

1351
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: I didn't have a big man to pass the ball

1352
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 3: down there too, right, So I.

1353
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 1: Had the advantage over the Baron Davis, the Stefan Maulberry's,

1354
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: the Steve Nashes. So you know, you given you know,

1355
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: fifteen and fourteen assists, I'm giving third the points and

1356
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: six assists, I'm pushing more points than you, right, right,

1357
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: total points. I'm pushing more than you at this point.

1358
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: So I got injured, you know, and and it's one

1359
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: of those things. But my impact was so so so

1360
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: huge and fast that I'm.

1361
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: Still relevant today. What what injury did you have, Gail?

1362
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: And what happened? Did you come back too soon?

1363
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: Did he.

1364
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: Did you cut back too soon? Did it not fix

1365
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: it properly? To begin with, I was boxing out. I

1366
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: don't know why the hell I was boxing out of hum.

1367
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: I was boxing out. Uh you know, Jered Wallace fake

1368
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: fake the jumper. I thought he was gonna take it.

1369
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: But I should have known it was Jared Wallace.

1370
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: He can't shoot ship, so I should have known there's

1371
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a pump faking drive.

1372
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 3: But he pump fake drove.

1373
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm boxing out thinking he shot the ball, and then

1374
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: he ran he ran into me, and then tour UHM

1375
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: M c l p c l M meniscus. And then

1376
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: because I've never knew what an injury was, I didn't

1377
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: really rehab the way.

1378
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: I was supposed to.

1379
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: So I came back, you know, came back as soon

1380
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: as the season started. Eight games intil the season started,

1381
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm injured again. So I had three after I had

1382
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: three knee surgeries in fourteen months and all that trauma

1383
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: built up, all this scar tissue, and you the same

1384
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: after that.

1385
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 5: Nah.

1386
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: And I think I really messed my hand up on

1387
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: Lebron that cav series because I needed to come back

1388
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: and play right because my contract is coming up, and

1389
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: because my name was still hot and they still had

1390
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm still.

1391
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: Good in the eyes.

1392
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: I had to come in there and play two games

1393
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: to show that they am back right.

1394
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: And what happened is.

1395
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: Lebron ran into my wrists and you know, I couldn't shoot,

1396
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: so they gave me one of those tortos shots in

1397
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: my ass. I had to bend over and I hyper

1398
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: extended my my injured need right, which that took forever

1399
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: to rehab. So rle be thinking I'm superman. Yes, Yes, And.

1400
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: Plus I think the thing is we know more now.

1401
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: You're probably became out better. Missing the whole year, probably

1402
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: came out better missing the whole year, came back to

1403
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: following year.

1404
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: But I get it.

1405
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: Understand that your contract was up, and like you said,

1406
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: you wanted to parlay that into another big contract, knowing,

1407
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,479
Speaker 2: not knowing, you're probably doing more harm than good.

1408
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's one of those I risked my career for

1409
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: that next contract.

1410
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah you did, You absolutely did. Jordan asked, would you

1411
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: rather have embiid or Y'll getch on your team. Shack

1412
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: recently said on this podcast, we know Joe Ebid is

1413
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: the best big man when it comes to numbers and

1414
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: all that, But Djoko went to the Big Dance and

1415
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: got the thing done. We know what, we know what

1416
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: you can do, but can you do it at the

1417
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: at the Big Dance? Can you get the phone number

1418
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 2: at the Big Dance and take home and close the deal?

1419
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: Who you won't who you won't?

1420
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: Giel I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna take him Bead.

1421
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: The reason I'm gonna take him beat is because if

1422
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't have anyone on my team, I know he

1423
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: can dominate, right, and he can dominate by himself right right,

1424
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: And it's my job to find pieces that work with him.

1425
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: Well.

1426
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: Jokic, Yokic, You're gonna need guys who can shoot the

1427
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: ball that he can pass the ball to. You got

1428
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: to treat him like Jason Kidd, Magic Johnson. You have

1429
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: to put other guys around that can make plays when

1430
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: he finds them. So if he has a whole bunch

1431
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: of guys who can't shoot the ball, who can't do

1432
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: anything else, then you're just left with twenty two and

1433
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: twelve rebounds, right, and you take away his assists.

1434
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 3: His assist comes because his vision.

1435
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: If he can't use his vision, right, if he can't

1436
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: use his vision, then in a sense, he's just an

1437
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: average double and double guy. And that's why he went

1438
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: in the second round because when he's working out, he's

1439
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: not working out with five other players where he gets

1440
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 1: to use his passing skills.

1441
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 3: Right, So.

1442
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: Ahead need to be I would need to be smarter

1443
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: as a general manager with Jokic. I have to put

1444
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: the right pieces around Yokis would him be I can

1445
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: fuck up a couple of times in the draft and

1446
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: he can carry us for a little bit. That's you know,

1447
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it.

1448
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing is I'm gonna take Jokic

1449
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 2: because I think the thing is that the way they

1450
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: built their team in Philly and the way I mean, look,

1451
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: they built their team. So Joel Eid everybody runs the

1452
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,839
Speaker 2: offense because there have been times Nicola Jokic could impact

1453
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 2: the game and only take ten shots Joel doesn't have

1454
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: the same impact without those without those attempts because he's

1455
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: getting to the foul line. So for me to watch

1456
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: him be able to go give me forty twenty and fifteen.

1457
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 2: And like they said, every big game, every big shot

1458
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: that they needed last year, in that moment, Nikola Jokic

1459
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: made the shot more he made the perfect pass.

1460
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 3: That's that's that's I mean, that's what I said.

1461
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: His value, his value comes, His value comes because he

1462
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: can pass that ball, right, And that's why I said,

1463
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: like I would have to be you know, Calvin Booth,

1464
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: we were teammates, So.

1465
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 3: You have to create That's what I said.

1466
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: You have to be smarter as a general manager when

1467
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: you have Jokic. Yes, right, I can. I can be

1468
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: done with Embiid, Right, you know I can. I could

1469
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 1: be Maury and I can do I could be Maury

1470
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: with with Embiid. You know, when when you having someone

1471
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: like Jokic, you have to put the right pieces to

1472
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: make sure that he's at that high level every single

1473
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: night where when he's not scoring, he can get your

1474
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: twenty assists.

1475
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 3: Yes, oh for sure, you know what I mean. And

1476
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: it's one of those.

1477
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: Things that you know, like I would have to be

1478
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: I would have to be very smart when I have

1479
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,879
Speaker 1: a player like Jokic.

1480
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Owens asked, I think d Rose would have won

1481
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: two or three rings and in top twenty five if

1482
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: he never gotten injured. What do you think, Gilan up,

1483
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: what do you think d Rose would have ranked had

1484
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: he not gotten injured?

1485
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 3: Ranked? Yes? Oh, I mean, I mean when you're talking

1486
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 3: about like dynamic guards, wow, I mean the Rose that

1487
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 3: he was different.

1488
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 2: He was He was Russell before Russell Restbrook. He was

1489
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: John Moran before John Moran, the explosive guy that played

1490
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 2: above the rim. And so there weren't there. Look, they

1491
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: weren't point guards. That was explosives as d Rose from

1492
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: end to end, and he played above the rim, which

1493
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: we had never seen a point guard play above the

1494
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: rim like d Rose could. Now we see what Russe

1495
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: has done, we see John Moran finishing at the rim

1496
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

1497
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 3: But before those guys, d Rosse was in. Yeah.

1498
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: Even even like when you're talking about above the rim, Yeah,

1499
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: you had like small guards back in the day, but not.

1500
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 3: In pactful like d Rose did.

1501
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: Right, but you know, his uh, his quickness and his

1502
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: speed with his explosion up was just different. It was

1503
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 1: just a he was just a different dude. You know,

1504
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: he could have argued if he would have stayed healthy.

1505
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: Of course he argues for you know, best point guard ever.

1506
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's just one of those things that he

1507
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 1: was just different, seeing something different. The way he played

1508
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: the game. Hard knew how to knew how to get

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: to the lane. You know, those type of guys you

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01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: just get. He's just you look back and saying what

1511
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: could have been? What could have been?

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01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 3: Right?

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna make Peenie Hardaway is in a

1514
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: different category because he was six seventy six eight.

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you have Magic Johnson. He was more of

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01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 2: a Magic Johnson type. Yeah, but could score the basketball

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01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: and then he did have shot. It's kind of like

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01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: what Magic had with Kareem. So, I mean sometimes people

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01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: forget that Magic came into the league and Kareem was

1520
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: the m v P. Now let that think just the

1521
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: magine if Joe el Embiid is the m v P

1522
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: and they get Victor women Yama, Yeah, that's what that's

1523
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 2: that's what happened with the Lakers.

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01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 3: Uh, they got Magic and Kareem was the MVP. Yep.

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,799
Speaker 3: And then they won a championship and got worthy.

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01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: Yes, in eighty two they won the championship and yo,

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01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 2: what yep, that's what happened.

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. So with that, Big said, Yil, we're gonna were

1529
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 3: gonna cut it short tonight. Man. I'm just I'm under

1530
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 3: the weather.

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean, man, I just want to give you flowers, man,

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: and then and Jimmy for the audience out there. Look, listen,

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01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: y'all see Unk out here struggling right, And the fact

1534
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: that he even hit the live, it just lets you

1535
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: know how dedicated he is. So when you sit thinking

1536
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: about dedication, the fact that he hit the live, been

1537
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: working all week and he's sick, you can you can

1538
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: see it. And the fact that you know, that's what

1539
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: greatness is, that that is Jordan in the flu game.

1540
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: You know what you're doing tonight. You know we can

1541
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: see you, we can hear it. And the fact that

1542
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: you even hit the live to even come out here

1543
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: and let you know how dedicated you are. And this

1544
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: is for people who's really trying to see what it

1545
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: takes to be great. Their now excuses, you still give

1546
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: the fans what they deserve, even if it's for an hour,

1547
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: hour and a half twy minutes.

1548
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 3: Man.

1549
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: So hey, I looked at you as number one before. Huh,

1550
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: this is your championship for me. You know what I mean, Sit,

1551
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. See it in the fact that you're

1552
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: still going. That's another level of dedication, man. Like. So

1553
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 1: when I get sick and I don't want to do something,

1554
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna think about. Man uncle, he's

1555
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 1: struggling man doing his thing, so I can't no let

1556
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: the party go. I had a professor in nineteen eighty

1557
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: seven named Norman Elmill Rest your soul, doctor Elmore.

1558
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: And it was cold.

1559
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking about really really cold that day, and the

1560
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: heat wasn't working, and so it would probably only three

1561
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: people that showed up for the class.

1562
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 3: Remember him walking in. He never had a book back.

1563
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 3: He had all these books.

1564
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: And if you went to Savannah State and was talked

1565
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: by doctor Norman Elmore, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

1566
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 2: And he came and had all these books and he

1567
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: threw them on the desk. He said, you know, I

1568
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: almost didn't show up today, but I thought somebody might

1569
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,959
Speaker 2: want to learn something. I thought someone want to be educated,

1570
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 2: be informed, And so that's what I said, I almost

1571
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 2: like ash Man, I'm struggling today, but I thought someone

1572
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,879
Speaker 2: want to be entertained, someone will want to be educated,

1573
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: someone want to be informed, And so I showed up

1574
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: and gave you my best. Hopefully the medication that I've

1575
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: received over the last couple of days would take effect,

1576
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: and Saturday I'll be a lot better. But I don't

1577
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: make any show up to get me. I got some

1578
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: nurses that do the things for you. No, no, no, no, no, Now,

1579
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to get them sick. Uh, what's them, y'all?

1580
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: What's them? Y'all don't know about that. I told you

1581
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: those are better than them. Jumpman's you poured our last week? Man,

1582
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: go ahead over that, Gil bad, Come on, man, let

1583
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: that go stolen my gill throw me out?

1584
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, this this episode is on Flue game man.

1585
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it was, all right, enjoy

1586
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 3: your name. Well we'll we'll see what's up.

1587
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,599
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Speaker 1: for Valentine's Day?

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