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Speaker 1: see where those weeks exist. Take Away the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: take away the week in between playoffs and Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You just kind of go through the entire season without

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Speaker 1: a break in time, which I'm sure players wouldn't like

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Speaker 1: that if they have to do that, because players really

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Speaker 1: benefit from a week off. Depending on where your bye

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Speaker 1: week hits, it can be super beneficial if it's towards

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. So another question that could

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Speaker 1: come up come week five or week six, when maybe

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Speaker 1: week one through week five goes perfectly, but then you're

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Speaker 1: hit with a fork in the road and you got

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Speaker 1: to figure out, how are we going to exist when

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Speaker 1: there may still not be a vaccine? Right, loss to

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Speaker 1: go on, Lots to go overall. We'll read maybe later

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Speaker 1: on in the program, we will read the memorandom sent

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Speaker 1: by the Board of Player Representatives Executive Committee to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and they've recounts what happened in a meeting on July

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Speaker 1: second with the NFL and what they had proposed happened.

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Speaker 1: But at the bottom of the hour, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: Mike Ginetti in from spot Track. He's gonna come on

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Speaker 1: with us and run down this ten year five hundred

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Speaker 1: and three million dollars reported contracts signed by Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Steep Tasker Maddi Glab coming out until three o'clock. This

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Speaker 1: is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health Fun Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Goals Live. Step Tasker

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Speaker 1: Maddi Glab, Please to be joined on the line right now.

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Speaker 1: By the founder and managing editor of spot Track. It's

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Speaker 1: about team salaries, players contracts, and they've finances that go

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Speaker 1: into the player's side of professional sports. Mike's thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming on with Stephen Maddie. How are you doing today? Great?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me in my pleasure. Well, guess what

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Speaker 1: happened yesterday? About fifteen seconds before we went off the air,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes signs a ten year extension. Can you give us

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Speaker 1: some highlights or some you know, some intricacies of this contract.

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Speaker 1: What makes it special besides a ten year term? Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So the four or fifty million dollars says enough for

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Speaker 1: seventy seven or twelve years. This is a real big

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Speaker 1: boy contract. This is no joke. If you just look

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Speaker 1: at the nuts and bolts of this the start, it

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Speaker 1: looks like a typical standard extension that has an out

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Speaker 1: after three years, like every other quarterback contract. That is

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Speaker 1: not the case. This thing is loaded with early vesting guarantees.

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Speaker 1: I mean some of these things vest two years early,

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Speaker 1: so you know, the chiefs are all in. There's really

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Speaker 1: not a logical place over the course of the next

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Speaker 1: twelve years where the chiefs can say we're getting out

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Speaker 1: of this and releasing Patrick Mahomes. If he wants to

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Speaker 1: stay on this contract, he can get all four hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy seven million dollars and there's not too much

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs can do about it. There's a full note

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Speaker 1: trade clause. Like I said, early investing options. He can

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Speaker 1: even get hurt this year and he's still going to

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Speaker 1: get paid one hundred and forty million dollars, which is

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Speaker 1: five years of this contract. There's so much player control.

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Speaker 1: This is unprecedented for the NFL. When you were looking

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Speaker 1: at this contract and reading through it for the first time,

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Speaker 1: when those initial numbers and clauses came out from someone

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Speaker 1: who looks at contracts regularly, what was your initial reaction

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Speaker 1: when you read through all of this. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I had to get off the softball field because I

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Speaker 1: was coaching my daughter and I started getting pings on

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Speaker 1: my watch, so I had to run and take a

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Speaker 1: look at this thing from a spreadsheet standpoint. I had

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Speaker 1: the same reaction that I just laid out, because generally,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of predetermined to think that there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a point in time where this thing cuts off

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Speaker 1: and the player loses the control. I was shocked to

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Speaker 1: find that wasn't a case, and it took me really

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Speaker 1: all night and I did a kind of a video

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Speaker 1: breakdown to have to understand how these bonuses kind of

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Speaker 1: precede themselves. He's going to make a ton of money.

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Speaker 1: And really the other point of this, and it should

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Speaker 1: be made, is the first three years of this contract

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Speaker 1: are not impressive. They are They are low in terms

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Speaker 1: of a quarterback contract. Sixty three million dollars over the

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Speaker 1: next three years. That's twenty one million a year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's Teddy Bridgewater if we're looking at those kind

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Speaker 1: of numbers. So the Chiefs and Mahomes agreed to sort

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Speaker 1: of be team friendly over the next three years because

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Speaker 1: they know what kind of window they're in. They know

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Speaker 1: they can win this thing a couple of times, and

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Speaker 1: they want to be able to maintain and continue to

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Speaker 1: grow over the next three years. Twenty twenty three gets

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Speaker 1: really fun when you're talking forty million dollars of cash

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Speaker 1: and cap, but that's also when the TV contracts kick in,

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Speaker 1: so it's aligned with how the NFL looks over the

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Speaker 1: next couple of years, and it's certainly a lot of

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Speaker 1: money for Mahomes. Well, that's and I was going to

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Speaker 1: ask you that it does this leave the Chiefs a

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Speaker 1: way to build a roster around Mahomes and maintain it.

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Speaker 1: Certainly does for the next three years, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's when Mahomes should be coming

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Speaker 1: into his prime. Although he's already won the MVP and

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP, so whatever his prime is going to be,

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Speaker 1: it can't be much better than it's already been. But

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Speaker 1: for the next handful of years, they should be still

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Speaker 1: be able to keep the guys around him that have

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Speaker 1: made them great, no question about it. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: restructure of Samue Watkins surprised a lot of people. I

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Speaker 1: thought at I think a lot of people thought Watkins

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Speaker 1: was going to be out the door. But when they

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Speaker 1: restructured him, it was an absolute power move to say

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Speaker 1: we want to maintain as much of this team as possible.

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Speaker 1: The franchise tag and Chris Jones, the restructure of Watkins

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Speaker 1: and now this twelve year contract, it's just evidence that

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs don't want to be anybody else but who

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Speaker 1: they are right now. That's going to be difficult. There's

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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of moving parts and fitting

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones that that monster defensive tackle into his own

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Speaker 1: contract alongside of this is going to be difficult, but

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Speaker 1: they've done the homework here. Like I said, the structure

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Speaker 1: of the Mahomes deal allows for a three year window

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Speaker 1: to at least play and use some finicky cap work,

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Speaker 1: and then after that it gets really fun. So let's

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Speaker 1: get into the nuts and bolts of this contract. What

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Speaker 1: are some benefits and downfalls for both sides. You've already

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Speaker 1: pointed out a few on each side, including the three years.

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Speaker 1: Initially that is more team friendly than anything. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of cash. After twenty twenty two that things

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Speaker 1: really start to get crazy. I mean, if you just

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Speaker 1: look at twenty twenty seven and nothing else, it's sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars of cash and cap. He's gonna make sixty

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Speaker 1: million in base salary and sixty million against the cap

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Speaker 1: as long as there's not a restructure there. So anybody

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Speaker 1: who asked me the question, when is this contract going

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Speaker 1: to be restructured or when is Mahome's going to want

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Speaker 1: to get out of it, it's after that year. And

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Speaker 1: anytime somebody wants to pay you sixty million dollars, do

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Speaker 1: you accept that and then you talk about a new

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Speaker 1: contract after that. There's just a lot to it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the roster bonuses are gigantic. They're bigger than I've ever

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Speaker 1: seen on an NFL contract. He still gets workout bonuses,

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Speaker 1: which I think is hysterical. You know, this is just

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Speaker 1: how the chiefs operate. They always give workout bonuses. But

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Speaker 1: to give a guy four or five million dollars but

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Speaker 1: also have to give him money to come and work out,

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Speaker 1: to me, is just hysterical. So there's little intricacies like that.

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Speaker 1: But to kind of make a more global point, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if this resets the NFL contract market like

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Speaker 1: maybe a lot of people are saying it will. This

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Speaker 1: to me feels like an anomaly. It feels like one

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Speaker 1: of those things that's just gonna sit out there. It's

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Speaker 1: going to exist. Patrick Mahomes is going to be the

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Speaker 1: special play around the field, and he's gonna have this

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Speaker 1: special contract that's built just for him. Certainly everybody else

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Speaker 1: is going to slide up. Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen Baker, Mayfield, those numbers are gonna have to slide

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Speaker 1: up now. But I don't think this is going to

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Speaker 1: be a next man up scenario where the next you know,

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Speaker 1: above average quarterback has to pass forty five million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year. So give us a name from another sport

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Speaker 1: that had a contract like it would be the Dave

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Speaker 1: Winfield contract back with the Yankees, or would it be

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Speaker 1: you know, the Bobby Benia contract where he's still getting paid. Now,

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Speaker 1: is there another anomaly contract you can point to another sport? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Winfield was a good one because it was it

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Speaker 1: was precedent setting back in the day, so that that

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Speaker 1: really drove the Baseball League forward and put him in

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Speaker 1: the mess they got into the last decade or so.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of active contracts, it almost perfectly aligns

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Speaker 1: with Mike Trout. In fact, I'd be remissed to say

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Speaker 1: that's not where his agent, Lee Steinberg Patrick Mahomes agents

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Speaker 1: went to for this negotiation, because you can kind of

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Speaker 1: see the parallels and how these two players are for

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Speaker 1: their sports. Right, Mahomes and Trout are sort of sort

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Speaker 1: of stand atop the mountain of their respective sport, and

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Speaker 1: now their contracts look a lot alike, and they're both

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Speaker 1: on track for five hundred million dollars of career earnings.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be neat to see these two

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Speaker 1: players in their respective sports sort of achieve their hopefully

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Speaker 1: achieve their goals on the field, but also financially speaking,

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Speaker 1: they're tied at the hip as well. Beyond the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: who are the biggest winners and losers of this deal.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question everybody else in that the vision

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Speaker 1: of course, who has to deal with this guy now

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Speaker 1: for the unforeseeable future. The biggest winner is every quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I can't even put other positions in this conversation

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Speaker 1: because this now separates the quarterbacks so much from everybody else.

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Speaker 1: The losers maybe those middle to lower positions in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was already getting bad for you know,

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Speaker 1: non pass rushing linebackers, for safeties to some degree, certainly

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Speaker 1: for running backs and tight ends. Those are the positions

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Speaker 1: that are really going to be affected. In the middle

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Speaker 1: class of the NFL now is probably in trouble because

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Speaker 1: the gap is now between six hundred and ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars and forty five million dollars. That's the gap in

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Speaker 1: contracts now in the NFL. So it's going to be

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Speaker 1: very hard to negotiate an eight to nine million dollar

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Speaker 1: contract for a thirty four year old player who's just

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Speaker 1: trying to stick in the league. To me, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be You're gonna see a lot more players down

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Speaker 1: in the one to two million dollar mark on those

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Speaker 1: those veteran benefit contracts. But we'll see. Like I said, this,

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Speaker 1: this feels like an anomaly. But the Dallas Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones may come up and give Dak Prescott something

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Speaker 1: that looks just like this, and we'd all have to

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Speaker 1: just clap our hands and say, here we go. And

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about the rest of

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks too, Is there anything about and the numbers

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Speaker 1: are the numbers, and you can and these guys are

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Speaker 1: going to look at each other and the you know,

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Speaker 1: the club's going to hold up to a handful of

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Speaker 1: statistics for this comparison, and the player will hand up

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Speaker 1: hold up a different set of numbers for comparison to

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Speaker 1: each other. But is there anything about this contract and

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Speaker 1: instructure like the guarantees or you know, the term of

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Speaker 1: it perhaps is one thing, but is there anything about

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Speaker 1: this contract that other quarterbacks won't have to or you know,

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Speaker 1: is trend setting in that respect? Aside aside from the

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Speaker 1: fact that it is four hundred and fifty million bucks,

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Speaker 1: is there something about this structure, this contract that other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks would love to copy? Well, because of the early

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Speaker 1: guarantees that I talked about, how those bonuses kick in

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Speaker 1: two one to two years early. Like I said, this

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Speaker 1: essentially for practical purposes is a foreigner and seventy seven

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Speaker 1: million dollars fully guaranteed contract. That's unprecedented. The last fully

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Speaker 1: guaranteed contract we saw for a quarterback that really was

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Speaker 1: worth any way was Kirk Cousins, who did that on

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Speaker 1: a free agent contract with Menis. So now we've done

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Speaker 1: from three years to twelve years of guaranteed money. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's what could be trend setting. That's what quarterbacks should

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Speaker 1: be relying on. So when you're talking about Prescott and Watson,

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Speaker 1: who are next up here for quarterback contracts, they don't

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Speaker 1: want twelve years. They want three to four years because

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Speaker 1: they know they're not getting five hundred million dollars. They're

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Speaker 1: getting something much more reasonable. So they want to be

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Speaker 1: able to re up their contracts in three years when

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Speaker 1: the tief money comes in and the NFL looks completely

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Speaker 1: different than it does. Right now. So, but those three

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Speaker 1: to four years that they're looking for it now, there's

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Speaker 1: a precedents to say, well, if they if the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: could guarantee twelve years for Patrick Mahomes, then you guys

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Speaker 1: can certainly guarantee three to four years for me. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be a tall order, but there's precedents now

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Speaker 1: to do that. With Kirk Cousins having a three year

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Speaker 1: guarantee and Mahomes now one of twelve, Josh Allen is

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Speaker 1: someone who's going to be looking for a new deal

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Speaker 1: if twenty twenty goes the way that it should, if

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Speaker 1: he makes a step forward that he needs to in

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Speaker 1: his game. So what type of deal could he be

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Speaker 1: looking at in regards to what he's deserving of if

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Speaker 1: he plays better than he did last season? With how

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Speaker 1: this whole Patrick Mahomes deal looks, Yeah, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: even sure production is going to matter too much because

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Speaker 1: we kind of know who Josh Allen is now from

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Speaker 1: a multi talented standpoint, it's about winning, and let's be frank,

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Speaker 1: that's why this contract for Mahomes looks like it does.

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Speaker 1: It's because he took them to the finish line and

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Speaker 1: there's reason to believe he can do it again. So

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Speaker 1: obviously these guys can all play well. That's why they're

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Speaker 1: QB one's in this league right now. The benefit that

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has, and it's something Mahomes has as well.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is benefiting from the fact that Dak Prescott and

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson also need contracts right now. Josh Allen's going

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Speaker 1: to have that if we assume Sam Darnold takes a

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Speaker 1: step forward and Baker Mayfield takes his step forward and

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Speaker 1: we kind of know what Lamar Jackson looks like. If

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Speaker 1: all of those guys are in contract negotiations together, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a next man up on those four contracts.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be very good news for whoever wins

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Speaker 1: the most in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. And

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Speaker 1: that's really what it's going to come down to. Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's base evaluation right now is already thirty million dollars

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Speaker 1: and that's before this Mahomes contract. So it's me that's

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Speaker 1: the starting point for any of these contracts we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: And look, if Prescott and Watson get thirty nine forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars perspectively, like I think they will. Then that's

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Speaker 1: essentially where Josh Allen's going to live with another winning

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Speaker 1: season if he's the best quarterback of this crop. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we're gonna be looking at Deshaun Watson's contract

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Speaker 1: and saying, that's exactly what's gonna happen with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike Kinettie founder and managing it or

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Speaker 1: spot track. What's the backside though? For the quarterbacks? I mean,

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Speaker 1: is Cam Newton in his contract a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a cautionary tale. I mean, once you hit the end

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Speaker 1: of it, or you falter in any way, all of

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00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, nobody wants you and you sign a minimum

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00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: deal and laced within sentims. It's a great point, Steve,

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Speaker 1: and it speaks to that middle class I was talking

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Speaker 1: about when you fall out of favor, when you're Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton and you and you're Cam Newton, and you're Joe Flacco,

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00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: of course, and you instantly fall out of favor, you

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Speaker 1: drop right down to that middle class at which I

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Speaker 1: look like I'm saying, if they wait long enough, if

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Speaker 1: teams weighed out those players, which can get all the

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Speaker 1: way down to the minimum salary, which is done with

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton. It's crazy that he's at one point seventy

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Speaker 1: five million dollars this year, because it could be the

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Speaker 1: best value in all of sports, even surpassing some of

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Speaker 1: these rookie contracts. But that is the fall that's happening

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Speaker 1: when you lose your spot at the top of the list.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton was an MVP candidate in twenty eighteen, eighteen

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Speaker 1: months before he was released out of Carolina, so that's

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Speaker 1: part of it. When the mountain is this tall, you

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Speaker 1: can also fall pretty far, pretty quickly. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to see a lot more of that. And oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, if these rookie contracts keep working out so

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Speaker 1: well for the quarterbacks, it's going to be harder to

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Speaker 1: sign these veterans to these long term deals. As it is,

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Speaker 1: we're not sure what the NFL is going to look

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Speaker 1: like this season, if there's gonna be fans in the

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Speaker 1: stands or not. If there's no fans, hey, that's going

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Speaker 1: to play a big part on the revenue in the cap.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on how the cap may look the

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Speaker 1: next few years if there's no fans or only twenty

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Speaker 1: percent fans or something like that. Are they going to

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Speaker 1: have to borrow. What what's your thoughts? Yeah, your latter

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Speaker 1: point is exactly right. Everything I'm hearing from the people

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Speaker 1: who are a lot smarter than me say that the

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Speaker 1: NFL and the NBA are going to kind of work

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Speaker 1: simultaneously to make sure that they can keep they can

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Speaker 1: plateau the current situation. So for the NFL, that means

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Speaker 1: keeping the one ninety eight salarycap into twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: rather than going lower to account for losses. They can

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Speaker 1: take those losses and they can push those down the

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Speaker 1: road a little bit, maybe three four years, when we

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Speaker 1: know the money is going to be big and this

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00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: is all going to come back to them very quickly.

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Speaker 1: But maintaining that stability on the salary cap is going

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Speaker 1: to be very important for both the NFL and the

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Speaker 1: NBA in order to really keep the integrity of these

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Speaker 1: contracts intact. Mike, thanks a lot for this. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I know you're busy on a day like today, but

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking some time for us. My pleasure. Guys,

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Speaker 1: they say, if everybody. Mike Jenetty, founder and Managing editor

752
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: of spot Track www dot spottrack dot com for team

753
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: player and contracts and salary, salary, cap management, pay rules,

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Speaker 1: and a lot more. Steve tash Kermatic Lab. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back after the break coming up at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hours. Tom Current from NBC Sports Boston and also

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Speaker 1: a Patriots insider. Thanks for listening, Steve Tasker, Maddi glab

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Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live presented by Clyde to Health and

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio record Clive, Steve Tasker, Maddie

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Speaker 1: glab In untill three o'clock. We just got off the

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Speaker 1: phone with Mike Janettie, founder managing editor of spot Track.

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Speaker 1: He talked about the Mahomes contract, and we asked our

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Speaker 1: listeners Maddie to chime in and see what they thought

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Speaker 1: about the reaction to Patrick mahomes ten year, four hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars contract and also the fact that

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA is pushing for no preseason games. And we

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Speaker 1: got some reactions from from our listeners on the tweet sheet. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so let's go first with Tiffany. She says, my hopes

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Speaker 1: are after seeing Mahomes's megadeal, is that one day the

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Speaker 1: Bills will have to pull up the Brinks truck to

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's House. If this season happens, I feel we're

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Speaker 1: going to see the best Josh has to offer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Josh plays well again who we just had on Jannitty,

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Speaker 1: He said, it doesn't really matter if Josh has a

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Speaker 1: season of a lot of production because we kind of

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Speaker 1: already know what Josh can put on the table from

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Speaker 1: his strengths that he's already shown us in his athleticism.

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Speaker 1: So there's likely a new contract coming for Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: And yes, because of Mahomes, it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: a mega deal like that maybe, but it is going

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Speaker 1: to be a lot of money. And the quarterbacks are

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Speaker 1: now proven, Like he was explaining, the quarterbacks are all

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Speaker 1: the way up at the top of the conversation in money,

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Speaker 1: and now these middle level players may be the ones

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Speaker 1: who don't get as much because the quarterback market is Chiching, Chiching, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's probably true. I mean, but I mean, the

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Speaker 1: most important guys get the most money. That's all there

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Speaker 1: is to it. And the quarterbacks are those guys. Now

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Speaker 1: you'll see guys that will transcend that a different positions.

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Speaker 1: You'll have players, you know, like guys like Bruce Smith's

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Speaker 1: come along or Barry Sanders. Guys will come along, guys

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00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: who will carry the franchise on their back who aren't quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: but those guys will be few and far between. For

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Speaker 1: the most part. It's gonna be the quarterbacks who get

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Speaker 1: the money. And Patrick Mahomes. This deal is unbelievable. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think people are thinking, wow, is there going to

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Speaker 1: be a forty million dollars quarterback? And people can well,

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Speaker 1: this guy's a forty five million dollar quarterback. I mean

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Speaker 1: he jumped way up and you've still and but the

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Speaker 1: hats off to the Chiefs because even now, even with

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Speaker 1: that mega deal and you see that big number, people

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Speaker 1: are saying, well, it's pretty good for the Chiefs. You know.

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Speaker 1: The only place the Chiefs are on the hook is

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Speaker 1: because it's such a long, long deal. They're gonna be

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Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes on their football team for a long

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Speaker 1: long time, whether he's good or not, whether he's hurt

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Speaker 1: or not hurt. That's where that Chiefs, you know, risk

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Speaker 1: in this deal, even though it sounds like a lot

809
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Speaker 1: of money, because of the length of the deal and

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Speaker 1: when it starts and when it's paid out, the Chief's

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Speaker 1: gonna be all right. Financially through this the only way

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Speaker 1: They're not as if Pat Mahomes somehow, some way can't

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Speaker 1: play at some point, that's when they get That's when

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Speaker 1: it gets dicey for the Kansas City Chiefs. Also, Maddie

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Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet from Brad, He says, one obvious

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Speaker 1: question would be what does this mean for the Bills

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Speaker 1: moving forward? I think we still got an absolute steal

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Speaker 1: in Tredavious White, but how to keep him? It seems

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Speaker 1: like twenty million a season, but I'm sure he'll want

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Speaker 1: his money soon. And that's right now. And this brings

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Speaker 1: up the question, how are you going to pay other

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Speaker 1: star players, other important players on your team on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side, if you do have a quarterback that soaks

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Speaker 1: up a large percentage of the cap. And it's it's

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Speaker 1: been really proven by this coaching staff in this regime,

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Speaker 1: Maddie that their philosophy is a lot of really good

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Speaker 1: players who play really well together. Other teams have this

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Speaker 1: idea that when we're going to sprinkle in a couple

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Speaker 1: of star players and everybody else will be elevated because

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Speaker 1: of them and will win that way. The Bills have

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Speaker 1: built it from the ground up that with their philosophy

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Speaker 1: of a bunch of good players. What's going to happen

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00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: when a bunch of handful of those good players turn

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Speaker 1: into great players and they got to pay them, what

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Speaker 1: happens to the roster? And that's a real question. I

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Speaker 1: think that that has yet to be answered. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: have all these foundational pieces that are very young that

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Speaker 1: they want to keep on the team for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: And Trey White remain Edmunds, Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano and

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Speaker 1: these guys are all going to have to get new

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00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: contracts within a year or two of each other. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that the cap could remain the same for

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Speaker 1: a few years could have an effect on some of

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Speaker 1: these guys. They may they may need to be okay

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Speaker 1: with getting a couple million less because you're not going

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Speaker 1: to see the increase over the next few years. If

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00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: that's actually what's going to happen. Yeah, And it could

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Speaker 1: be two that the Bills will treat them a little

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00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: bit like the Chiefs treated Mahomes. Say, Listen, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be team friendly for the first three years of this

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Speaker 1: deal until the cap starts to go back up in

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Speaker 1: three years. After the pandemics over after we get over

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Speaker 1: the pandemic, after we you know, start paying back what

854
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Speaker 1: we borrowed so the cap will stay at least static.

855
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: Will you know, We're gonna make this deal a little

856
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: bit longer so that you will see the end of it.

857
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: But you'll get into the big money. You'll get the

858
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: big money. But we're gonna make it team friendly for

859
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: the first three years just because of the cap hit.

860
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: And that's where you're gonna find guys like Tremaine Edmunds,

861
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Tradevious White. Maybe a team friendly deal for

862
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: the firsthand, you know, two or three years until they

863
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: get past this pandemic in the aftermath, and then they

864
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: start raking in the big money off the cap in

865
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: the future. That seems like smart way to go. Yeah,

866
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: it does. And one thing that is also interesting about

867
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: that is if it's team friendly for the first few years,

868
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: well what if the player only has a couple three

869
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: four years left. It's hard to predict and project these

870
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: players lives in the NFL and how long they will

871
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: last because health, you can't. You can't bet on a

872
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: player's health, even if he has had his first three

873
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: seasons very healthy. You never know what's going to happen

874
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: and to see those big deals come in and maybe

875
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: year five, year six where you're getting a chunkier change there.

876
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: That's also is that smart to give a chunk a

877
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: change in the five six? Who knows? Yeah, Steve Tasker,

878
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: Maddie glab here till three o'clock. We're going to take

879
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: a break and coming back after the break, Tom Current

880
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston, Boston and the Patriots Insider is going

881
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: to come on with a Steve Tasker Maddi glab Here

882
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: till three o'clock one Bills Live presented by Clyde to

883
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Oh a great time old

884
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: by Steve Glasker, BS doime Banks Time backs down. That's

885
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: not club at all time. Welcome back to one of

886
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: those lives. Steve Tasker, Maddie glab here till three o'clock. Uh,

887
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: and just getting started with our number two of the show.

888
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: We had Mike Jenetti on earlier in the show. Now

889
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: we're expecting Tom Kerrn, NBC Boston coming on in the money.

890
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: He is on with us now on the line. Tom

891
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: Kurrn Boston, UH, NBCC Sports Boston also a Patriots Insider

892
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: Tom Steve Tasker and Maddie glad Up glab Up here

893
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thanks for coming on with us. We appreciate

894
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: you taking some time as the as you're in your family. Okay,

895
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, we're doing great. I appreciate you asking

896
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: everybody else from Western New York has managed well and

897
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: as to hit him, I hope they came through. Okay,

898
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and it's it's good to have you on.

899
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: We got it. We've we didn't here in Buffalo obviously,

900
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: as much as anybody watched what goes on in New England,

901
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: we've watched Tom Brady's career, in Bill Belichick continuing his career,

902
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: and you know, been the you know, we've stuck needles

903
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: in our Bill Belichick doll as often as we can.

904
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: But during this offseason, they had this, uh, this rhetoric

905
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: coming out where they were going to support Jared Stidham

906
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: as their starter and did it come to the fact

907
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: that you know that Cam Newton just became so cheap

908
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: to buy. They just said, listen, we're gonna bring the

909
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: guy and let him compete, or we're you know, houses

910
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: fit in with Jared Stidham and what they said about him,

911
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: and now that they've signed Cam Newton to such a

912
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: cheap contract. They had no misgivings about Jared Stidham at all.

913
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: They were very happy with the offseason he had, such

914
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: as it has been because of the pandemic, but they

915
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: were very happy with him. They're very encouraged by him.

916
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: They think he's on the right track. But you're exactly right.

917
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: When the price for Cam Newton comes to a point

918
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: where it's free to a good home for an elite

919
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: quarterback when healthy, you can't help but say, Okay, we

920
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: have a promising fourth round pick who's entering his second year,

921
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: and we have a former MVP that we can sign

922
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: for a million dollars, worst case, seven million dollars, which

923
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: will be less than Marcus Barriota. It would be malpractice

924
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: to not bring him in and give him an opportunity

925
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: to win the job. Is this just a marriage of

926
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: convenience here? A lot of people are saying Cam Newton's

927
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: not going to be on the Patriots for a long time.

928
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: This is just so he can get his one year

929
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: deal in and find a new home to a team.

930
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Do you see it just being something out of convenience

931
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: for each party. It's exactly the story I wrote under

932
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: the headline that I wrote the day that it happens.

933
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: It's a marriage of convenience. A team that has a

934
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: quarterback in his second year in Stidham and a journeyman

935
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: behind him and Brian Hoyer. Really, if you look at Stidham,

936
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: he could be on the same track as Jimmy Garoppolo.

937
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: Promising player gets to sit behind an MVP, whether it's

938
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: Brady or Newton, for two years and then might be

939
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: ready for a close up, as Garoppolo really was in

940
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, even though Brady was still a very good player.

941
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: So the Patriots a buying time, but they're not buying

942
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: time with a journeyman in from of him and Brian Hoyer.

943
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: They're buying time with an outstanding player who can still

944
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: single handably conceivably win them games. And we're better, to

945
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: your point about Cam Newton, to showcase your talents and

946
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: skills them with an offense that has shown an ability

947
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: to morph from power game to spread game to whatever

948
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: it needs to be at different junctures. And it's always

949
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: going to be in prime time, and it's probably going

950
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, So, yes, you're exactly right. What

951
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: will it mean long term? That to me is what's

952
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: fascinating because if Kim Newton plays like a top ten quarterback,

953
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: he's thirty two. Tom Brady was forty two and the

954
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: Patriots was saying, yeah, no, we're not going to do

955
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars for you. They had every kind

956
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: of excuse why they wouldn't do that. But if Cam Newton,

957
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: but at thirty two, would Cam Newton be somebody that

958
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: they would entertain that with? I wonder We're talking with

959
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: Tom Kerr and NBC Sports Boston. There's a lot of

960
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: uncertainty about the preseason. Tom. We don't know what it's

961
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: going to look like. But how do you think it's

962
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: going to play out between Cam Newton and Jared Stidham?

963
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: Certainly can bring some things to the table that are

964
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: completely different strength than Jared Stidham. Is there going to

965
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: be a competition there and what will it look like

966
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: on opening Day? Yeah, there will be a competition there.

967
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: I've been assured that that is what the Patriots plan is.

968
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: There are going to make sure these two guys are

969
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: pitted against each other and nobody's given the job. I

970
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: think the expectation is that the experience, the talent, the

971
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: things that Kim Newton can do that Jared's Stidham can

972
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: will win out over the fact that Studamary knows the

973
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: language and knows where the practice fields are in the

974
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: trainer's room and everything else. Ultimately, it's gonna end up

975
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: being Cam's job. But I was also told if it

976
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: doesn't come to pass, and as mass the NFLPA and

977
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: the owner's wrangle over how they're going to have a preseason,

978
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: maybe his assension does get the way little bit a

979
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: little bit because they don't get a chance to see him.

980
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: You know, I've been told, and it's been indicated to

981
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: me that Cam Newton will not have an issue with that.

982
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: He's in it for the long haul. So even if

983
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: he did get beaten out for a period of time,

984
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: the feeling is that he wouldn't say, Okay, you know what,

985
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: I'm not sticking around here releasing We all know Cam

986
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: is such an athletic quarterback. Do we know what he's

987
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: done in his best year with the Panthers. But here's

988
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: someone who's been injured and has been working his way

989
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: back from injuries. The last couple of years, and he

990
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: gets picked up by the Patriots last week and he

991
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: now has to learn this playbook. How quickly do you

992
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: think he can pick something up like this at the

993
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: age of thirty two, when, yes, he's had quite a

994
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: bit of experience in the NFL. Do you think it'll

995
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: be something that comes easily or something that's going to

996
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: take time, which could set him back a bit. And

997
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: that's a great question. It's one that I had too.

998
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: I was told that it should not be a concern

999
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: in terms of him because it's language verbiage. Right now,

1000
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: we can have the playbook in hand and can do

1001
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: zoom meetings, and Maska thinks the hard thing is putting

1002
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: it into practice. What does you know? Stevie could come

1003
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: up with a play called probably better than me, probably

1004
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: both of you could. But what does Z thirty five

1005
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: out out zipper mean? Kim has to figure that out

1006
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: and see how it looks on the field. Everybody learns differently.

1007
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: But I'm told to Cam does not have any issues with,

1008
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: you know, grasping things like that, so I don't think

1009
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: that that's seen as any kind of an impediment to

1010
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: him being able to get ready. What did that the

1011
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: Patriots roster around him on the offensive side, Tom Brady,

1012
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he added one of his roughest years last year,

1013
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of people says because he didn't have

1014
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: enough help. Is that going to change for Cam Or

1015
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: is cam you know, athlete enough when he's healthy to

1016
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: overcome some of the the lesser you know, roster spots

1017
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: on the on the Patriots? I mean, what's this going

1018
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: to look like around cam Um when he takes over. Yeah,

1019
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: it's a great question, and it's one that I focused

1020
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: on a lot. If you look at Brady and the

1021
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: speed of the wide receivers and their ability to separate

1022
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: really over the last two years, it was negligible. They

1023
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: are the thirty first according to uh damn, I can't

1024
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: remember who did this. Somebody pretty good though. They did

1025
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: a whole breakdown of oh is Daniel Jeremiah a breakdown

1026
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: of the relative speed of skill position players based on

1027
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: their forty times to call by The Patriots were the

1028
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: thirty first slowest team in the NFL at its skill positions,

1029
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: and the Packers were thirty second. Coincidentally, Tom Brady and

1030
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers had more throwaways than anybody else in the NFL.

1031
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is built to get the ball out, as

1032
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: we all know, in two seconds or less to a

1033
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: spot where somebody can do something with it. Certainly can

1034
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: make dozens of other throws too, but that's the model

1035
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: of the Patriots offense. They didn't have guys getting separation.

1036
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: There wasn't good protection for Brady. So as a result,

1037
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: he's either taken a whack or saying this play is doomed.

1038
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: These guys either aren't open or runt in the right spot.

1039
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: This one's going into the cheerleaders and he lives to

1040
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: fight another down. Well with Cam if it doesn't open up.

1041
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: He has shown the ability to move around and create

1042
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: for three seconds three and a half seconds to restart plays. So,

1043
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: as Chris Simms told me last week, Cam's abilities might

1044
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: be better suited to getting a lot out of the

1045
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: Patriots skill position players around him than Brady's are right now.

1046
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: Not that he's a better quarterback, but it's a better

1047
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: fit given the personnel. At this point in Cam's career,

1048
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: where do you think his ceiling is at? Is this

1049
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: his last opportunity that he gets to really succeed. I

1050
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: think that he would feel insulted to have this come

1051
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: to pass the way it has, that he has to

1052
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: sing for his supper and be an audition, and I

1053
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: guess I don't blame him either, but you know, it

1054
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: has been a litany of different injuries and now nobody

1055
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: had a chance to see him healthy over the last

1056
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: couple of years. But I don't think that he would

1057
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: view it that way. This is again a perfect opportunity.

1058
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: As you said, it's a marriage convenience, and he'll get

1059
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: plenty of opportunities to show that he is who he

1060
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: was or that he is still a very capable better

1061
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: in quarterback and you know, better than the Kirk Cousinses,

1062
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Derek cars Ryan tanney Hills of the world. I mean,

1063
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: when you look at Tannehill, and again I'm not sure

1064
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: exactly how old tanney Hill it is, but now that

1065
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: I think about it, they're probably damned close to the

1066
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: same age, so they are. I mean, shouldn't Newton be

1067
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: able to say I want that contract, I'm a better

1068
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: player than him if he has a good year. What's

1069
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: your gut feeling on what this preseason is going to

1070
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: look like, Tom, I don't think they're gonna get anything done.

1071
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: I think that they should. I found it interesting to

1072
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: see JC Trutter his comments today. I'm going to read

1073
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: them to you actually, because he had a letter he said,

1074
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: the NFL recently stated that it wants to play two

1075
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: preseason games. When we ask for a medical reason to

1076
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: play games that don't count in the standings during an

1077
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: ongoing pandemic, the NFL failed to provide one. The league

1078
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: did provide a football reason to evaluate rosters. Okay, there

1079
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: is no medical reason to play football in the first place,

1080
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: so I don't get the verbic. It's a dangerous game

1081
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: where people run into each other at full speed. You

1082
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: can't forfeit the ability to evaluate rosters and say, well,

1083
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: that's a football reason. We're not going to exceed to

1084
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: do that if the general practices of executing your business

1085
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: include having dry runs to see who's good and who isn't,

1086
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: and the players are resistant to that based upon medical concerns.

1087
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: None of football is medically sound. So I just I

1088
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: get what they're saying, and I appreciate, and I'm sure

1089
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: Steve you do as well. The dangers of playing professional

1090
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: football are inherent, but none of it's medically safe. Yeah,

1091
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: that's a hard line to draw, and I was when

1092
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: we opened the show. I was talking to Mattie about

1093
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: that exact thing, about the problem you have in justifying

1094
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: staying out because a virus is unsafe when you're banging

1095
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: into three hundred pound bodies and the game itself is

1096
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: inherently dangerous, and I think that's a hard line to draw.

1097
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: The Union seems to be trying to do it, but

1098
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: it's hard to rationalize that when you try and put

1099
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: it into words about what the difference between getting sick

1100
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: is and getting injured is. Yeah, and I understand you're

1101
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: not going to bring your strained hamstring home and perhaps

1102
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: pass it on to somebody who's going to pass it

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00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: on to someone else. That could really end up with

1104
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: a dire circumstance. But there are there aren't that many

1105
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: what ifs that you need to get yourself into someplace

1106
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: where you say, well, this is a big risk. It

1107
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: is a risk. How big a risk is it depends

1108
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: upon your own personal family situation or your personal situation.

1109
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: If you're a defensive lineman carrying three hundred and eighty

1110
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: pounds and perhaps there's a history of diabetes in your family,

1111
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: that to me, I'd be really wary of that if

1112
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: I were a player. So there's a lot of concerns there,

1113
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: but to say that there is that if there is

1114
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: no medical benefit to playing a game to evaluate a roster.

1115
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean, it's and maybe I'm

1116
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: maybe I'm way off base here, and someone could articulate

1117
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: to me why I am, because we all do digest

1118
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: these things somewhat in the vacuum as we read them,

1119
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: and that's why the conversations are important. I gotta ask

1120
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: you about something else that's been going on this offseason.

1121
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: There's been some hype in Buffalo. For the first time

1122
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: since the mid nineties, people are labeling the Bills is

1123
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: the favorite to win the AFC East. I mean, I'm

1124
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: drinking the kool aid. Steve's drinking the kool aid. But

1125
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: in the Boston area's what's the talk about the AFC East.

1126
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: I had a couple of SIPs. I had a couple

1127
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: of SIPs of a kool Aid and it's actually pretty good.

1128
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: And as a result, I don't think that people should

1129
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: look at the addition of Cam Newton as suddenly resurrecting

1130
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots franchise. New England went four and five down

1131
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: the stretch, last year, they the Week seven game that

1132
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: they had to have against the team that was not

1133
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs in the Miami Dolphins, and then

1134
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: they got steamrolled at home in the playoffs. They were

1135
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: not a good football team. They played their best game

1136
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: against Buffalo in Week sixteen, So you guys saw what

1137
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: was representative of what something that wasn't representative of what

1138
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots worth. At the end of the year. Twelve

1139
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: and four was built up a large part because of

1140
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: an outstanding defense and some horrific quarterbacks that they faced

1141
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: over the course of the year. Buffalo is a better

1142
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: team one through fifty three period. The coaching staff and

1143
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: the culture that have been instilled by Sean McDermott I

1144
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: think are absolutely on the right track. The players fitting

1145
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: a system around Josh Allen are perfect. It's a team

1146
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: on the rise. And the Patriots have lost a lot

1147
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: of players in this offseason and the ones before Gronkowski,

1148
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: Free Flowers, Brandon Cooks, Danny Mndla. These are players who

1149
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: were completely unreplaced, and then they lost van Noy and

1150
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: Collins and smaller guys like Landam Roberts, and they haven't

1151
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: drafted well. So nobody's gonna feel okay until the big

1152
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: bad Wolf is you know, scene as being dead and buried,

1153
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: But to me, it's not what they were. You've got,

1154
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: You've got the reigning defensive MVP, Steph Gilmore. How do

1155
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: you think that there's one player that you know is

1156
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: a really good player for the Patriots and it doesn't

1157
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: seem to be going where they did lose some talent

1158
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: around him. How are they coming along with a contract

1159
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: for him and what is that gonna look like? Yeah,

1160
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: what's interesting and also relatives of the Mahomes contract is

1161
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: if there are no fans in the stadium, if local

1162
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: revenues there are three buckets that revenues go into, revenues

1163
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: are diminished, the salary cap is going to go down

1164
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: by a huge chunk, could be as much as thirty

1165
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: forty fifty million dollars down to one hundred and fifty

1166
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million dollars from two hundred. The

1167
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: NFL and the NFLPA have to get together to mitigate

1168
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: what that means. But I think for top tier players,

1169
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: elites like Gilmore, they will find ways where those guys

1170
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: still get the money that the best players are getting.

1171
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: Darius Slays at sixteen and a half million. Gilmore has

1172
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: to be at seventeen one would figure going forward, but

1173
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: he's not up for two years. But it is still

1174
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: worth pinpointing because his cap hits are going to get

1175
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: pretty high in the next two years, and if the

1176
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: cap goes down, the Patriots are gonna have to stare

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01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: at that and say, can we get you extended and

1178
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: do something further out to bring these hits down. So

1179
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: it's it's worth starting to think about right now. You're

1180
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: right with all with all things considered, the cap players

1181
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: that need new deals in the next coming years. Tom

1182
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: Brady out of the equation with the Patriots, how the

1183
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: Patriots have drafted the last few years. What do they

1184
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: need to do this season and the next few seasons

1185
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: to see sustained success. They actually have to bite the

1186
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: bullet this year, and they're doing that. They've ripped the

1187
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: band aid off financially. They moved from Stephen Guskowski, moved

1188
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: on from Brady. They're right up against the cap with

1189
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: what I think most of us would say is not

1190
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: a star filled roster. They haven't drafted well. But next year, Again,

1191
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: these are numbers that are hypothetical since the CAP's going

1192
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: to go down, but they project to have about ninety

1193
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: million dollars worth of cap space, so they're in a

1194
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: completely different place than they are this year. Hopefully with

1195
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: a year of Cam Newton and he helps them to

1196
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: win some games that they might otherwise not Jared Stidham,

1197
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: they can still be a double digit win team because

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01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: I think with Jared'stidham accor back, they're going to have

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: growing pains and they would be a seven, eight, nine

1200
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: win team. So we'll see where they go. But they

1201
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: are very much in a rebuild remodel the same where

1202
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: they were in two and ten. They're entering what is

1203
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: their third iteration of this dynasty. They were able to

1204
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: reboot once. We'll see if they can do it again.

1205
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: Or Tom Current of the NBC Sports Boston, Tom last

1206
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: thing for me, is it possible given the results of

1207
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: this pandemic, maybe two or three years down the road

1208
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: with the salary cap being affected as it has, that

1209
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: it will make it's too hard for teams to rebuild

1210
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: after this pandemic. If, for instance, the Patriots kind of

1211
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: go into the tank this year when they bite the

1212
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: bullet and they kind of hang in there with whoever

1213
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: they've got, and they can afford their up against the cap.

1214
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: Even if they get out of cap jail, they're not

1215
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: going to be really out of jail because the cap

1216
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: may drop by, you know, millions of dollars. Will it?

1217
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: Could it be a phase in the NFL, you know,

1218
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: financing that it's gonna be tough for teams to get

1219
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: out of problems and rebuild their roster to get good

1220
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: again in a place where the cap has been shrunk

1221
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: in two consecutive years or drop down for two consecutive years. Yeah,

1222
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: think of it this way. Though, the Patriots have ninety

1223
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: million dollars under the cap. Teams like the Cowboys, the Browns,

1224
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: they're already thirty million dollars over for twenty twenty one.

1225
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: Excuse me, twenty twenty one. So you're going to see

1226
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: potentially and they're going to have to come up with

1227
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: a solution. But if nothing did change, you're going to

1228
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: see very good players having to get thrown overboard. You

1229
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: might even see players this August being released in anticipation

1230
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: of that. So we might see the market swimming with

1231
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: talented players who had to be released rather than renegotiate

1232
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: deals that they had on the books because the numbers

1233
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: went down. That's why it's very important, I think going

1234
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: forward for both the NFL and the NFLPM to figure

1235
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: out a way to make guys a portion of the

1236
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: salary cap. Take that as you're you know, if you're

1237
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: a good defensive end, you know you want to be

1238
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: nine percent of the cap. You're a good quarterback, you

1239
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: want to be fifteen percent of the cap. Fifteen percent

1240
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: of the caps thirty million dollars in twenty and twenty.

1241
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: So those are things that if I'm a player, I

1242
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: want to be able to predict, relative to the success

1243
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: of the NFL, what my cost is going to be.

1244
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: And I think that that's going to be an interesting thing. So, No,

1245
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't going to be screwed. It's the teams

1246
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: that are already near the cap that are going to

1247
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: be screwed unless these two sides figure it out. Tom Kerrn,

1248
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston, Thanks for joining us. I really appreciate you. Okay,

1249
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: thanks Steve, Thanks Mattie. Take care. We'll be back with more.

1250
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presenter by Klyda Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1251
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Mattie Glabey year till three. Later on, we

1252
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: have Emily Kaplan of ESPN coming on the program. Thanks

1253
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: for joining us. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

1254
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: in one of Bill's Live Steve Taskermatic Lab. Thanks to

1255
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: Tom Kerrn, NBC Sports Boston coming on forth with us.

1256
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: Last half hour. Mattie, last week you wrote an article

1257
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks that the Bills are going to be facing.

1258
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: It's an interesting group of guys that up until this

1259
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: last week was we thought we knew who was going

1260
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: to be Now with Cam Newton in the mix, things

1261
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: have kind of changed. Visit. It was a pretty interesting

1262
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: look at what quarterbacks Buffalo Bills fans are going to

1263
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: watch their team play against. YEA, So we did this

1264
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: Quarterback Week two weeks ago where Chris Brown and I

1265
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: wrote some quarterback related articles and released them throughout the week.

1266
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: So this one went out on Friday, June twenty six,

1267
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: and the following week, of course, Cam Newton signs with

1268
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots and so now a lot of the points

1269
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: that I made are different, but the overarching themes of

1270
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: the article we're basically to point out. Okay, here's the

1271
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: former Bills quarterbacks that we could see. Here are the

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Speaker 1: MVPs on the schedule. Here are the rookies that the

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01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 1: Bills could face multiple times. Here are some historic games

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01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: that the Bills have played against these quarterbacks. Here's the

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: age of these quarterbacks. Who's considered an a legend? What

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01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: does the afcast look like now without Tom Brady? So

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01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: a lot of things that people already know, but to

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: put it kind of into one article together, it was

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: ten things to know about opposing quarterbacks on the Bills schedule.

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Speaker 1: And if you take Cam Newton out of the equation,

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01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: I did the average age of the quarterbacks that we

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: will face, which is a total of fifteen sixteen now

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01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton, but with the fifteen quarterbacks, it would

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01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: be twenty seven years old old is the average age.

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01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: So the oldest quarterback on our schedule would have to

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01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: be Big Ben at thirty eight years old, and the

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01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: youngest is Justin Herbert Kyler murray Our twenty two two.

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: A tongue of Ioloa is twenty two as well, So

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01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: interesting looking at some of these ages. Also interesting kind

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: of getting into some of the historic games that we've

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: played against these quarterbacks. Some have not fared that well

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01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: for the Bills the last time the Bills hosted I

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: guess you could say Russell Wilson was in Toronto during

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01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: his twenty twelve rookie season. Well, Seattle beat Buffalo fifty

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01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: to seventeen in that game, where Wilson had three rushing

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01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: touchdowns and one in the air, and former Bill Marshawn

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01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,520
Speaker 1: Lynch was on the Seahawks and had one rushing touchdown

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01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: during that time as well. And also something that I

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: didn't really lies, the Bills have yet to beat Ben Roethlisberger.

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01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: They beat the Steelers last year, but Roethlisberger wasn't the

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, so a bunch of interesting things to get into.

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01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: We could see a few rookies. I think it's with

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: how the schedule is laid out, and when we see

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01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, we see them in week two and we

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01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: see them in week seventeen. Depending on how Tua does,

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01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: we may not see Tua in week two, and then

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01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: he could become a starter by week three, week four,

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,560
Speaker 1: and if the Dolphins aren't playing for a spot in

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs, we could see fits again in week seventeen

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01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: because they don't want to play tah for the last game,

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: so we may not even see Tuah, will we see

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert? Will we see Tyrod Taylor? A bunch of questions.

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01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: Will we see Jared Sidham? Will we see Cam Newton?

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: So a lot of stuff is yet to be determined,

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01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: and we'll see how the landscape looks once Week one

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: kicks off, right. And the thing about it is, too

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01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: you look at these guys and they it's a whole

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01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: spectrum of guys that you know that you think about

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01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: it too, people that we've seen a lot of. You know,

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01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick played here. Uh, Sam Darnold is just getting

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01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: his career start. We've seen him a couple of times already.

1322
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill, I mean, good grief, who's seen him more

1323
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: than Buffalo Bills fans when he had you know, when

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: he was a quarterback of the Dolphins. Uh mahomes. We

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01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: don't play against him, but you see him all the time,

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01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But then uh, Tyrod Taylor Bills

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01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be really uh familiar with him. And

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01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: of course you know Ben Roethlisberger, who, as you said,

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's like the kryptonite for for Buffalo Bills.

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't been able to beat him, and

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01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: of course they beat what was a duck Dodgers last

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01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges Ya Devlin Hodges. So and there they go

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01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: from thirty eight years old all the way down to

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01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty two years old. If Kyler Murray is

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01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: the guy in Arizona, which he probably will be Jared

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01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: Stidham's twenty three, there's gonna be a ton of young

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01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: guys um sixteen games and only how many did you say?

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: Maybe ten? Maybe eleven quarterbacks that will probably see differently

1339
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: unless these teams changed quarterbacks during the season, like Miami

1340
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: changes to two a tongue after uh, they move away

1341
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: from from fits and maybe San Diego goes to Justin

1342
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: Herbert instead of Tyrod Taylor at the point where we

1343
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: play the Chargers. I don't know, I don't know. It's

1344
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun to look at these guys

1345
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: because all of them we all have our own story about,

1346
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: Like Russell Wilson, third round draft pick, who's become this,

1347
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, this amazing guy who's who carries that team

1348
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: on his back. Uh, Jimmy Garoppolo, all right, there was

1349
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: a time when I thought, Wow, I'm glad he's not

1350
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: playing for the Patriots, you know, instead of Tom Brady. Now,

1351
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? If can you

1352
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: imagine if they had traded Tom Brady four years ago

1353
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: and Garoppolo was in with New England, he'd they'd still

1354
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: be they'd still be good this year after after talking

1355
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: to Tom, it seems that system. What was your what

1356
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: was your overriding impression of these quarterbacks that we're gonna play?

1357
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: Is there one? Is there any one kind of uh?

1358
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: Is there kind of a I guess you can kind

1359
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: of catch the transition. We look at the ages of

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: these guys, except the guys that we play like Sam

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01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: Darnold to a Jared Goff Uh, Jared Stidham the only

1362
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: one who and Jared and Justin Herbert Drew Locke the

1363
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: only one that really doesn't fall into the categories, are

1364
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray, maybe in Russell will and as these

1365
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: guys that are the new rage of quarterback that are

1366
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: going to run with it and scramble around and make

1367
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: something happen. Mahomes is certainly that way as well. So

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: most of these guys are still leaning towards being throwers

1369
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: more than runners in my mind. Right, That's when I

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: was writing it. I wrote a section about, you know,

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01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: this new wave of NFL quarterbacks, and yeah, we're facing

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01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: some young quarterbacks. But if you look at it like

1373
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: you said, I mean, Patrick Mahomes, Kyler, Murray Russell Wilson,

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: are really the three plus Josh Allen that fit into

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01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: that new wave of quarterback that is very athletic in

1376
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 1: the way of what they can do with their arms

1377
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: and their feet. I mean, Sam Darnold's young, Justin Herbert's

1378
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: young to a tongue of viola is young. But they

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: don't necessarily fit into that new wave that we're seeing

1380
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. So is there really going to be

1381
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: a new wave or or are we gonna see kind

1382
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: of a fifty fifty split in five years when you're seeing,

1383
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, a lot more of these younger quarterbacks moved

1384
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: from college football to the NFL and that some still

1385
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: are going to be true pocket passers. You may not

1386
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: have a league where it's entirely considered the college term

1387
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: a dual threat quarterback where you can run and throw. Yeah,

1388
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: and you think about it in your article too. You

1389
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: also said, listen, there's some guys that are the Bills

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01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: are going to face that are legendary. Russell Wilson, you

1391
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: mentioned Russell Wilson and Ben Roethlisberger. Certainly Ben Roethlisberger is,

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy who's he's probably headed to

1393
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Russell Wilson may well be there

1394
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: as well, although he's I still think he's in his prime.

1395
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's thirty eight and has been playing for it seems

1396
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: like the last quarter century. He's been around forever. But

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: you get those two guys, and then too, you gotta

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01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: I think you almost have to throw Mahomes into that

1399
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: legendary category already. Think he's twenty four years old and

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: he's been an MVP in the National Football League and

1401
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl MVP as the championship quarterback and just

1402
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: signed that deal. He's gonna be a legendary when he

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01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: calls it quits. And he may be now, certainly in

1404
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City, he is already. And here's another one, and

1405
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: just for your I will submit for your approval or disapproval.

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01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: In this region, I think Ryan Fitzpatrick may fall into

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01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: the legendary legendary categories. He will have played for three

1408
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 1: of the four division teams and throwing quarterback and throwing

1409
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: touchdowns for eight different NFL football teams and he's still playing,

1410
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: which is incredible when you think about it, how he's

1411
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 1: had such a long life in the NFL, has played

1412
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: for so many different teams, including the Bills. When you

1413
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: look into his stats of who he's played against, how

1414
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: many games he's played, who he's seen, I mean, the

1415
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: list can go on and on and on about what

1416
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: he's done and that so many other quarterbacks haven't done

1417
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: due to him switching teams so frequently in the life

1418
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: that he's had in the NFL. One thing that I

1419
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: picked out about when writing about quote unquote legends Ben

1420
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson is the two have kind of

1421
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: flipped in the last few years. Russell Wilson when he

1422
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: was coming up and making a name for himself in

1423
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: the NFL and on the Seahawks, a lot of it

1424
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: was because of how talented that Seahawks defense was and

1425
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: how that really got him off the ground and he

1426
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: could lean on his defense just like Josh Allen can.

1427
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: Now it's flipped to Russell Wilson is being asked to

1428
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: lead the team and do everything, and the defense can

1429
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: help support that, but Russell Wilson can't lean on the

1430
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: defense as much as he has before. Here's Ben Roethlisberger

1431
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: who used to be asked to do everything, and now

1432
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: he has the ability. Now. The Steelers have always had

1433
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: a pretty good defense and who they've had as a

1434
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: head coach and defensive coordinator, but Ben Roethlisberger in his

1435
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: age isn't being asked to do as much as he

1436
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: has been. He can now lean on his weapons as

1437
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: well as his defense, especially in a year where he

1438
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: is coming back from an injury. Right. And it's the

1439
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: way Ben Roethlisberger started his career. He was winning playoff games,

1440
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: throwing the ball like fifteen seventeen times. He was throwing

1441
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: less than twenty times with Jerome Bettis and the running

1442
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: game and that Pittsburgh defense. But now he made some

1443
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: stellar throws, no question. But he's almost come full circle.

1444
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: He went from being a guy who depended on his

1445
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: defense to the guy who while two years ago he

1446
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: led the league with fifty one and twenty nine passing yards.

1447
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's throwing it all over the yard,

1448
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: right yeah? Now is he coming back after these injuries?

1449
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: Will it be back full circle. Or he'll be another

1450
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: quarterback who will throw it maybe twenty twenty five times

1451
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: a game, let hand it off to a running back

1452
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: and led his defense win it for him. At thirty eight,

1453
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: you would kind of think, well, maybe he's not gonna

1454
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 1: throw for fifty two hundred yards again. But you know,

1455
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: they got and they got a good you know, like

1456
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: I say, they got a good defense. They've got Watt

1457
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: and they've got Joe Hayden. They've got some guys on

1458
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: that defense. Maybe it's time for Ben Roethlisberger. Maybe he's

1459
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: got a left enough left in the tank to give

1460
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: him some experienced play at quarterback and win games for

1461
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: him that way with his experience rather than making throws

1462
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: like he did in the past. Full circle for him.

1463
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,759
Speaker 1: For Ben Roethlisberger, he came into the league, wasn't supposed

1464
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: to play. They want a sup two Super Bowls too. Yeah,

1465
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 1: and now he's and he's had this prolific throwing career

1466
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: where he went away from the and then he was

1467
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: winning the games, you know, and then now coming back

1468
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: after an injury. He is an old guy who knows

1469
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: how good he's gonna be. Maybe he'll be another one

1470
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: just like he was when he's a rookie, whether they'll

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01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: throw it a few times. That's interesting to think about.

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger coming full circle, Maddie Glabs, Steve Chah. That's

1473
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: an interesting Martin article. I recommend it to you. It

1474
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: is Ten Things to Know about opposing Quarterbacks on the

1475
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills schedule. Coming up, Mattie Glabb, Rode and Mattie

1476
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: along with me here till three o'clock on One Bill's Live.

1477
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour, it's gonna

1478
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: be our friend Emily Kaplan from ESPN. She's a Hockey Report,

1479
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: hockey reporter, but she was also with Sports Illustrated. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna ask her some stuff about the NFL and maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the NHL what they're gonna do

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Speaker 1: coming back, because we're asking her that because the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: the NFL is probably gonna have to take a queue

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Speaker 1: from some of these other sports. We'll ask Emily Kaplan

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Speaker 1: what some maybe some best practices are about the hockey

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Speaker 1: way to do things. Steve Tasker, Mattie Glab Coming up

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Speaker 1: after the break, One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to

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01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Go Back to one of

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01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: Bill's Live Steve Tasker along with Mattie Glad. We've had

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Speaker 1: Mike Janetti from spot Track on talking about the Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes contract. We had Tom Curran on talking about the

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Speaker 1: Patriots and what's going on in side. Coming up on

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Speaker 1: this show on the program at the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: Emily Kaplan. She's an ESPN hockey reporter. She's formerly of

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated in the Boston Globe. She wrote for both

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Speaker 1: those entities and also reported on the National Football League

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Speaker 1: during her time there. We asked you, our listeners, what

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Speaker 1: your opinions were about this new Patrick Mahomes contract and

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01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: how unbelievable or what it meant and the and what's

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Speaker 1: gonna and what's and also your thoughts about them compressing

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: the preseason maybe a small preseason, two preseason games, maybe

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: no preseason games. The NFLPA has put out of a

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01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: report or I can't remember the name of what is

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: called a a memo to the National Football League calling

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Speaker 1: for no preseason games at all. We've asked you, our listeners,

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01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: for your thoughts of that about it, and you've gotten

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Speaker 1: back to us on the tweet sheet and the sweet

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Speaker 1: She's brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official

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01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: equipment movers of the Buffalo Bills. Maddie read from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet about what's the more people are saying about

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Speaker 1: what's going on, So DNA says, in most years, I'd

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Speaker 1: say the preseason can be reduced or eliminated. This year

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Speaker 1: without off offseason and preseason training, I'm not sure. I

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Speaker 1: know players are working out on their own, but are

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Speaker 1: they all doing so at a level that will minimize

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Speaker 1: injuries during the season. Well, I think just the fact

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Speaker 1: that players that have been working out on their own

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Speaker 1: this offseason is minimizing injuries. I mean, one of the

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01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: biggest things you can do to minimize injury is to

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Speaker 1: stay in shape through the off season. That's why when

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Speaker 1: you do mini camps, a lot of it, at least

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Speaker 1: the beginning half is focused on working out and is

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Speaker 1: being in the weight room so you can minimize those

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Speaker 1: injuries and so your body can go back into football shape.

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01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: So for the guys who have been working out on

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Speaker 1: their own, some with trainers, some with instruction from the

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Speaker 1: team's strength staff, they're doing just that. They're trying to

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01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: minimize these injuries so that when they do get to

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01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: the facilities. You don't have to spend three weeks getting

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Speaker 1: back into football shape. But now we're seeing that these

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01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: medical experts are suggesting an acclimation period where I would

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Speaker 1: assume that these players would do similar things to what

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Speaker 1: they would do when they would come back in April,

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Speaker 1: where you're working out for a couple of weeks before

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Speaker 1: you start to do walkthroughs and things like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about. The players have proposed

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01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: a forty eight day ramp up to the regular season

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Speaker 1: that does not include preseason games. They want they want

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Speaker 1: their games to be. They want their preseason to kind

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Speaker 1: of ramp up, not only to get acclimated to the

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Speaker 1: protocols for the coronavirus prevention, but also to get in shape.

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Speaker 1: They've gone back, they hearkened back to the twenty eleven

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Speaker 1: lockout when the league lock them all out and they

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01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't let them in the building. There was a big

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Speaker 1: uptick in certain types of injuries during the return weeks

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Speaker 1: of the NFL after the lockout, So they wanted to

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Speaker 1: prevent those types of injuries from recurring, and they came

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Speaker 1: up with and the medical experts have come up with

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01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: a way to do that, and obviously the league is

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01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: pushing back on that because it either a cuts into

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01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: the pie financially, they don't they will make as much

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Speaker 1: money because there will be no preseason games, or B

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01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 1: they won't get a chance to look at these players

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01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: in football setting to pick the best ones, and they

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01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: and their coaches run the risk of letting good players

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01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: go or not having their team be as good as

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01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: it would be because they can't evaluate who they actually

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01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: have under contract. So it's both sides have a legitimate

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01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: argument for why the preseason should or should not happen,

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01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 1: and I think they're they're going to have to compromise

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01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: to get a going. I think it's unreasonable to think

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Speaker 1: that they shouldn't have at least some practice is with

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Speaker 1: pads and maybe some some games to get these guys

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01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: ready for the regular season. Um but um, these are

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01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: straight and for me, I don't know how this is

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Speaker 1: different from in a lot of ways from what the

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Speaker 1: players usually do. Certainly you can add the virus to this,

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Speaker 1: but it's never like we had Tom Curran on he

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01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: says it's never safe to play football, So I don't

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01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: know what the added risk of the virus does to

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01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: change what is already a dangerous scenario. Certainly there is

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Speaker 1: ancillary people that where your families are involved, you know,

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01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,480
Speaker 1: you might get them sick, or you're some some vulnerable

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01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 1: people in your life may get sick because of it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the game itself is has never been

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Speaker 1: that safe. Um and I think that's that's one of

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01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: the things that has has maybe gotten gotten forgotten about.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else on the tweet sheet that you

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01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: want to read? Is one more quick one before we

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Speaker 1: go to break? Uh? JW. Sock says. I think it's

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01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 1: great for the Homes, but if it works out to

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Speaker 1: be forty MILLI year, it's twenty percent of the team's

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01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: salary cap, that's a big piece of the pie. And

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01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: yes it is. That's why the first three years are

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01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 1: so team friendly. But they'll be intriguing to watch past

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01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: those first three years because can they afford some of

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01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: those other players on their roster four years out? Yeah?

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01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: And not for nothing, but the Mahomes contract is kind

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01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: of relevant to Bills fans because you got your own quarterbacks.

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01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: You may have to pay may or may not have

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01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: to pay. It may come down the pipe that some

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Speaker 1: of the things the aspects of the of the Mahomes

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Speaker 1: deal may apply to Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: we got more of that coming up. Emily Kaplan coming up,

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Speaker 1: ESPN hockey reporter and former Sports Illustrated and Boston globerighter

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Speaker 1: coming up after the break, Step Tasker and Mattie Glab

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01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live were presented by kalidah Health on

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01:27:47,160 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Gradia, What's up at all? Welcome back to

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01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Steeve Tashmer, Maddie glab Here till three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We have had UH Mike Genetian for the founder managing

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01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 1: editor of spot track on Earlier in the program, Tom

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01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: tom Kerrn, formerly of UH with the NBC Boston Sports Boston.

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Speaker 1: We're and we're going to have on the line here

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01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: in a moment Emily Kaplan of ESPN. She's a hockey report.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna ask her a little bit about how the

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Speaker 1: NHL plans to do things. We've been trying to keep

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Speaker 1: track of that. And the NFL is watching with bated breath,

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Speaker 1: the NH, the NFL is watching with bated breath, the NF, NHL,

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, the NBA, the Bundesliga, um, all these

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Speaker 1: other professional sports. And Jay Harris is laughing at me.

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: I do know what Bundesligue is. They all these other

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Speaker 1: professional sports that are trying to get up and running

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Speaker 1: during this pandemic, and they're trying to watch. Every sport

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01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 1: has its own issues to deal with, right, but football

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01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 1: is a little bit like you know, hockey, and a

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Speaker 1: little bit like soccer, and a little bit like baseball,

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01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: and a little bit like the rest of them, and

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01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: so they're gonna, you know, watch these season. I'm interested

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Speaker 1: in what Emily Kaplan can tell us about what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen in the NHL. And she's on the line

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Speaker 1: with us now, Emily Kaplan of ESPN. She's a hockey reporter. Emily,

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, thanks for joining us. This is Mattie

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Speaker 1: glab and Steve Tasker. How are you and your family

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01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: holding up during the pandemic. I'm doing okay. Thank you

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01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: so much for asking what can we add? What can

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01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: you tell us about maybe the latest in the NHL

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Speaker 1: and what they're doing with the progress they're making towards

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01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: starting a halted or paused season. Yeah, so things are

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01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 1: going forward, and we now I finally have dates. Training

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01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: camp for the teams that are returning should begin July thirteenth.

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01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: Teams will be traveling to hub cities in July twenty sixth,

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Speaker 1: and we're hoping that games begin on August first. And

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01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: of course I'm saying hoping and should with all of

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01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: this because I won't believe it until I see it.

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01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: That said, we have some pretty you know, detailed news

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Speaker 1: about what the bubble life will look like. You know,

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01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 1: guys getting their own individual hotel rooms daily, testing, family

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01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: members not being able to come until the conference final round.

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01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: So it's very thorough face masks that wearing at all

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Speaker 1: times besides exercising around the ice. And we'll see if

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01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: Danny took people at all. Since June eighth, there's been

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Speaker 1: thirty five players that have been announced to have been

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01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID nineteen. Do you believe that pro

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01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: sports as a whole is going to be based on

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01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:53,480
Speaker 1: a threshold depending on how many players are testing positive

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01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: or not, You know, it's so tough to say. At

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01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: this point, we don't know exactly what their threshold is,

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01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: if there's a magic number, or if we're gonna have

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01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: a situation like we're seeing in Major League Soccer, where

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01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: if there's a couple positive tests on a team, you know,

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01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: the team have to forfeit the game or maybe even

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01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: pull out of the tournament. So we haven't gotten any

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01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: details like that. I do get a sense that the

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01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: NHL knows what it would take for this awesome melt down.

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01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: But the hope is that everyone can get to them

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01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 1: bubble and be very healthy, very secure, and make sure

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01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: they keep it secure and no one can get infected there.

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01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 1: Of course, we know that's pretty much impossible to do

1659
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: because this virus is living among us until we can

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01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: get a vaccine. If everything goes as planned, swimmingly, nothing

1661
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: goes wrong, nobody ever tests negative or positive for the virus.

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Speaker 1: As they get this bubble into into shape, When does

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01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup final happen? And how long does it last?

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01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: You know, when's the final game or you know around

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01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: what time? Yeah, well it would be in Edmonton. The

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01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 1: two hub cities they're Toronto and Edmonton, and they've decided

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Speaker 1: that Edmonton would host the Stanley Cup finals. And we're

1668
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: talking about fall hoisting a Stanley Cup sometime in October,

1669
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 1: which is usually when the twenty eight the next season

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01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: should begin. So it's a little while to wrap your

1671
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: head around, especially while because we're talking the NHL is

1672
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: bullish on having an eighty two game season next year,

1673
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 1: and we know they're probably not starting until December January

1674
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: no matter what. So we could be playing out some

1675
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: weird times of hockey in the next couple of seasons

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01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 1: until we can get back on track. Guy, to get

1677
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: your quick thoughts on Kevin Adams taking over as the

1678
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Sabers GM. What do you think the future looks like

1679
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,839
Speaker 1: for this team? Who's not necessarily they don't really consider

1680
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: themselves as in a rebuilding mode at this point. They

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01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: kind of think that they have some good places in

1682
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: peace to have some success. It may just be reworking

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01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: a few things. So what do you think if Kevin

1684
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: Adams taking over as a GM. You know, it wasn't

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01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: necessarily a surprise. Kevin Adams is a name that you've

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01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 1: heard again and again in hockey circles, someone who was,

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01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: you know, getting more power within the organization, someone that's

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01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: the Bagoula family trusted. So you know, I'm curious to

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01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 1: see what he'll do with this team, because you know

1690
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't inherit the best situation, you know. I know

1691
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: the Pagoula family is kind of blaming Bottle Roll on

1692
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: the Skinner contract that could bog them down for the

1693
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: next couple of years, especially because he knows the salary

1694
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: cap is going to be flat. I don't think I

1695
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 1: agree totally with the assessment that they are a team

1696
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: that's ready to win soon. I do think there needs

1697
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: to be some rebuilding done, and there's a lot of

1698
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: prospects that they've whipped on in a couple of years

1699
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: in the past couple of years, to be frank, so

1700
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 1: it'll be really interesting to see, you know, around the league,

1701
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: the perception is the Buffalo Sabers are a team with

1702
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: a lot of drama and they kind of just need

1703
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: to get their act together and make the playoffs or

1704
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: they're going to waste some really good prime years of

1705
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 1: Jack Echo, who's just a terrific player and a great

1706
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 1: leader for this team. And the last thing I'll say

1707
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: is they do believe in coach Ralph Krueger, and I

1708
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 1: do think he could have, you know, some more say,

1709
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: even if it's not in a more formal role in

1710
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: personnel decisions, and it really seems like they're trying to

1711
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 1: copy the structure that diffical is created with the Bills.

1712
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: What would the what should the Sabers do after the

1713
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: lottery they ended up with the eighth overall pick. What

1714
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: does the trend around the NHL or the opinions that

1715
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: you've heard about what teams should do with a pick

1716
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: the eighth overall in a position like the Sabers are,

1717
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: do they traded, do they use it? Is there a

1718
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: guy worthy of it? There's definitely guys worthy of it.

1719
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be a pretty good raft class.

1720
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: This is going to be a whacky year though, Like

1721
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, in normal years, you could kind of say, hey,

1722
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: this is what this team would do, this is what

1723
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: that team would do. But because as I mentioned, the

1724
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: salary cap and the financial structures that people plan for

1725
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: are all out of whack, you know, we don't really

1726
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: know what trades need to go down. And you know,

1727
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: another interesting wrinkle is that any of the teams, the

1728
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 1: eight teams that are not in the tournament right now

1729
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: have the ability to trade with each other right now.

1730
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe we'll see some moves between the

1731
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: Sabers and the Senators or the Red wings. The next

1732
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, per se Let's transition over to the NFL,

1733
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 1: you wrote us all article about offensive linemen and their

1734
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 1: diets and how they kind of transition from being an

1735
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: NFL offensive lineman into retirement, shedding a lot of that weight.

1736
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: I got to ask you, first, where did the idea

1737
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: to do this story come from? Was it was it

1738
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 1: from talking to a certain offensive lineman and kind of

1739
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 1: learning about his day to day food intake, or was

1740
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: it something that you know you've always looked at and

1741
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 1: been interested in. You know, this is something that you know,

1742
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 1: I used to cover the NFL, and if you're a

1743
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: round offensive linemen, you know they talk about it a lot.

1744
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,680
Speaker 1: When I was at Sports Illustrated in twenty fifteen, I

1745
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: did a storia Nick Hardwick, who was one of these

1746
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: guys that you know, just didn't even look like himself

1747
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: months weeks after retiring, even just because the amount of

1748
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 1: food I learned he needed to put into his body

1749
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: to get to a playing weight was so unnatural. Once

1750
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: he started eating like a normal human being, he just shrunk.

1751
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: And you know, we've heard these anecdotes here and there,

1752
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: and my editors and I said, hey, what if we

1753
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: kind of just doing up and see where we're at.

1754
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Thomas had been in the news. You know,

1755
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 1: if I was GQ died of what he was eating

1756
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: in a day. So you know, I called a bunch

1757
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 1: of these guys, and you know, it was shocking. Some

1758
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 1: of these guys even called blindly, Like Joe Staley. I

1759
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: knew he had just retired. He played in the last

1760
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I figured, hey, let's check in to see

1761
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: where he's at. He said he was already down fifty pounds.

1762
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: Like think about that. He played in the most recent

1763
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and has already donated five bags of clothing.

1764
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: And I think he lost four inches on his waist,

1765
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: So good on him. Yeah, And it's interesting too because

1766
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 1: we know I had a lot of friends who played

1767
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL and and it seemed like back then

1768
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 1: there you know, in the nineteen nineties when I played,

1769
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: the league was there were only seven guys in the

1770
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 1: National Football League listed at three hundred pounds or more.

1771
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: Now every team's got seven guys that are listed at

1772
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds or more. And they seemed to do

1773
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 1: one of two things. Either they lost a lot of

1774
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 1: weight at the end of their career, or maybe they

1775
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 1: put it back. They'd put it on at the end

1776
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 1: of their career. They get they'd get chubbier at the

1777
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 1: end of the career because they weren't working out or

1778
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: anything like that. What is the other side of the

1779
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 1: coin also prevalent? Or did you not have a chance

1780
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: to rub up against guys who had actually, you know,

1781
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,600
Speaker 1: gotten heavier as they quit. Yeah, no, I'm you know.

1782
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 1: One of the guys they iverad in the story was

1783
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 1: Damien Woody, and he, you know, was a great example.

1784
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I'll put it this way, there's two

1785
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: different types of offensive lineman. Guys who were not naturally

1786
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: that big and have to artificially put the weight on

1787
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 1: and eat a ton, and then guys who are naturally

1788
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: big and just just happened to be big dudes. And

1789
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Damian Woody was one of those guys. He said he

1790
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 1: was already three hundred pounds by the time he got

1791
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 1: to Boston College, and when he left the league, he

1792
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,560
Speaker 1: couldn't he didn't lose the weight, and he got to

1793
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 1: leave bigger. He was three hundred and eighty eight pounds

1794
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: four years out. And the NBC show The Biggest Loser

1795
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: called him. He did it. He lost one hundred pounds

1796
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: and he's like it just wasn't sustainable because like, my

1797
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: body couldn't drop that bath and he gained it all back.

1798
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: So he was a really interesting example. He's only recently

1799
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: recommitted to a new lifestyle. But you know, the main

1800
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 1: guys that I focused on these stories where those guys

1801
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 1: that aren't naturally the stig to begin with had to

1802
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: stuff their faces with outrageous diets. And then it's really

1803
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: interesting to hear, you know, how their psyche had changed,

1804
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, going in the league and then transitioning out

1805
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 1: of it, you know, as it pertains to how they

1806
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: relate to their body, their body image, their security insecurities

1807
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 1: and things like that. What's that diet looked like? It

1808
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: looks like nothing we've seen before anything. Honestly, I've had

1809
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 1: so many friends text me about the story, being like,

1810
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:34,759
Speaker 1: I have indigestion just reading this. You know, Joe Thomas

1811
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: was talking about his like three PM snack and involved

1812
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 1: a McDonald's order that you'd probably order for your entire

1813
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: family for dinner, and that's just a three PM snack

1814
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: before you know, for his own dinner, it includes five

1815
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 1: thousand calorie lunches for a lot of guys, especially in

1816
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: college when they were really forced to put this way

1817
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: on involved setting your alarm at two or three am

1818
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 1: in the morning and shogging down a couple hundred or

1819
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: even thousand calory protein shake just so you can get

1820
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: that calories in because if you remember, these guys are

1821
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 1: encerning so much energy on the field, like it's just

1822
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: hard to keep it on. There's a quote from that

1823
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: article and it said, you're basically training yourself to have

1824
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 1: an eating disorder. I think that's a very interesting way

1825
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 1: to look at this is especially the offensive linemen who

1826
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 1: aren't naturally bigger and who have to artificially eat to

1827
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: gain the weight and to have these three hundred pound frames.

1828
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 1: What they're doing can't be too healthy for too long, right, Yeah,

1829
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 1: it can't be too healthy for too long because it

1830
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: does put them at risk for obesity, which then has

1831
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: a whole other umbrella of health risks that also isn't

1832
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: kind to their joints. But you know, the training yourself

1833
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 1: to have an eating disorder line really struck with me

1834
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 1: because we talked so much about, you know, the physical

1835
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 1: appearance of these guys and the physical demands that it

1836
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: puts on them, but we don't really talk about the

1837
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 1: mental aspect of it. And if I think your entire life,

1838
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: it's just been obsessing over food, and you're told that

1839
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 1: you're worth and your career is measured by how much

1840
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: you weigh. How unhealthy that is. Just to have that

1841
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 1: lingering in your brain for so long and to have

1842
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: to think about that, And for a lot of these guys,

1843
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:18,560
Speaker 1: they struggle with it and it makes them anxious and

1844
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: maybe even cheaters on depression. So that was a really

1845
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 1: interesting aspect and I was just so grateful for a

1846
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: lot of these guys to be so candid about how

1847
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: it affected them and their mental health space as well

1848
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: as their physical space. We're talking Tommy Emily Kaplan. She's

1849
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 1: an ESPN hockey reporter, but she also covers the National

1850
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: Football League and did a nice article we're talking about

1851
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 1: about offensive lineman who have retired. Did you get a

1852
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: sense with the guys who have lost all this weight,

1853
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,719
Speaker 1: did you get a sense of how much better they feel,

1854
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 1: how happier they were? Was it, you know, was it

1855
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 1: a good thing for them? You know? Difficult? You know,

1856
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: certainly it was a change in lifestyle, and as you say,

1857
01:40:58,240 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: some of these guys really felt it was a real

1858
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 1: burden lifted from them not having to keep their weight

1859
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: up because of their job. Yeah, almost uniformly, guys just

1860
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 1: talk about how proud they are and how much better

1861
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 1: they feel. Like I mentioned, less pressure on the joint,

1862
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: less well swelling, less beloading, like that's something that we

1863
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,639
Speaker 1: don't talk about a lot because it's just so gassy

1864
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 1: all the time. Joe Thomas said his skin cleared up

1865
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: like he didn't have any pimples. Some guys talked about,

1866
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, one Alan Faneco was a great example. He's

1867
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 1: one of the original guys that we saw lows all

1868
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 1: this weight and he's now run half marathons and marathons.

1869
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,759
Speaker 1: He said the day he hit his milestone of losing

1870
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: thirty pounds, at one point he was playing on the

1871
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: ground with his daughter and he could just stand up

1872
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: without doing the old man grown and just it felt

1873
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 1: good and he just felt like he could do it.

1874
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: And those are really cool stories to hear because there's

1875
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: so many benefits, you know, to living a healthy lifestyle,

1876
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, what they were living in the NFL

1877
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 1: was not a healthy lifestyle. One last question for me

1878
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 1: from the article and talking to these players, I know

1879
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,560
Speaker 1: you have to be big to play on the offensive

1880
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: line right now in the NFL because of what you're

1881
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:11,799
Speaker 1: going against, what type of defensive lineman you're going against,

1882
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: and to hold up a defensive line in order to

1883
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: make a quarterback I have enough time to throw or

1884
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 1: run or whatever. Do you think there could be a

1885
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: point where these offensive linemens start to talk, start to

1886
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 1: speak up and say that, you know, this is not healthy.

1887
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make myself be three hundred plus pounds,

1888
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 1: and it's time that we start changing what offensive linemen

1889
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 1: look like, which then changes the scope of the game. Yeah.

1890
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 1: You know, I think, to be honest, the way the

1891
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: NFL is going, it's a much more exciting game these days.

1892
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: It's a much more dynamic game, and I don't see

1893
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 1: that trend changing. Maybe if we morph into position less

1894
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: football or something like that, you know, we could get

1895
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 1: a moreph of what these guys bought these look like.

1896
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 1: But for the most part, I don't think any of

1897
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 1: these guys like have regrets or don't want to do it.

1898
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:08,640
Speaker 1: You know, they love playing offensive line. It's a very

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Speaker 1: it's a specific position to take specific spike. You know,

1900
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Speaker 1: it's very selfless. You know, the only time you ever

1901
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Speaker 1: mentioned an offensive lineman really is when they mess up.

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Speaker 1: That's the only time you really notice them. So, you know,

1903
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Speaker 1: just because of that mentality, I don't think anyone is

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Speaker 1: really going to be a whistleblower saying hey, football, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? And really it would just take a

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Speaker 1: huge overhaul, but I just can't imagine happening sometime soon.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see what the future holds. Emily Kaplan, ESPN

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Speaker 1: Report Hockey Reporter, thanks for coming on with us. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and the best to you and your

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Speaker 1: family during the pandemic. Okay, my pleasure. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having you guys, and stay safe, Emily Kaplan.

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Speaker 1: She wrote how offensive linemen escaped the five thousand calorie

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Speaker 1: lunch and transform in retirement. A lot of fun pictures

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Speaker 1: and a lot of guys that you remember from their

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Speaker 1: NFL careers, and we thanks thanks to Emily for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Mattie Steve Tasker here till three o'clock. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit, go a little bit further. We'll ask

1918
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Speaker 1: for your run down, your feedback about the Patrick Mahomes

1919
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Speaker 1: contract and how you feel about the preseason being abbreviated.

1920
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Speaker 1: Is it good? Is it bad? And what do you

1921
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Speaker 1: think the Mahomes contract means, not only for the future

1922
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Speaker 1: of the NFL, maybe for the future of the Buffalo

1923
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Speaker 1: Bills quarterback. What's it gonna look like when Josh Allen rehabs?

1924
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Speaker 1: And we also have coming up if you want to

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Speaker 1: do it right now, Maddy, you want to go NFL

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Speaker 1: true false? Yeah? Ready? Time? All right? Well, I'll tell you, well,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll come back with NFL true

1928
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Speaker 1: false right after that. And not only that, we'll also

1929
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Speaker 1: have what do we learned as well? Steve task for

1930
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Speaker 1: Maddie Glab coming up after the break, one of Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bills Media.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to one of Bill's Live Steeve Task along

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Speaker 1: with Maddie Glab. Is time now for NFL true false?

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready, Maddie, Let's do it? Here we go

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Speaker 1: NFL true false. NFL players have no leverage to make

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Speaker 1: training camp demands true or false. I am going to

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01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:16,839
Speaker 1: say true. I think they had leverage before they agreed

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Speaker 1: on the CBA deal. That's when they really had leverage.

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Speaker 1: But this is in the hands of the owners and

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And unfortunately, if the NFLPA and players you know,

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Speaker 1: don't want a preseason, they're just gonna get other players

1943
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Speaker 1: that will play the preseason. Yeah, there's there's more players

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Speaker 1: out there that are willing to have an opportunity and

1945
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Speaker 1: a shot so that that can be replaced. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think so too. I said it earlier in the show.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that this is the time for the

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Speaker 1: players to flex. They just signed a new CBA, and

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Speaker 1: certainly the league has to get their approval if they're

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Speaker 1: going to do anything that deviates from a CBA. But

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Speaker 1: in the current conditions, I think the league is going

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Speaker 1: to do its best, and I think anything the league

1953
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Speaker 1: does plus or minus, is gonna be better for the players,

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Speaker 1: not worse. Certainly, they've already talked about not having four

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Speaker 1: preseason games, and four is better than two, is better

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Speaker 1: than four for the players standpoint, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: how how they can say there should be a medical

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Speaker 1: medical reason for uh, you know, the return to work.

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example. Here's the here's the

1960
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Speaker 1: memo and what they said. There was a call um

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Speaker 1: the player representatives from thirty two teams and also representatives

1962
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Speaker 1: for all thirty two teams were on the call and

1963
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Speaker 1: it was with the board and that and player representatives

1964
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Speaker 1: were informed that the NFL had offered two reasons for

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Speaker 1: retaining two preseason games. And here's the reasons that the

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Speaker 1: NFL offered the players association for playing two preseason games

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Speaker 1: where they usually play four. One. UH, preseason games were

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Speaker 1: necessary so that the league and the teams could test

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Speaker 1: the COVID protocols, so they could get it together, so

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Speaker 1: they could have a regular season. So it was a

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Speaker 1: lot about the medical safety of the real of the

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Speaker 1: regular season. UH. That were was one reason why they

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Speaker 1: wanted to have preseason games so they could test game

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Speaker 1: day activities in testing. The second one was the chairperson

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Speaker 1: of the NFL NFL's management Council, the Executive Committee, UH

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Speaker 1: stated that the games were necessary so that the players

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Speaker 1: could get ready to play for the regular season. They

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Speaker 1: could play, you know, so they could be ready, um

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Speaker 1: and able to hold up under the rigors of an

1980
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: NFL season, you got to get ready to play, as

1981
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Speaker 1: they did they struggled to do in the lockout season

1982
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Speaker 1: of twenty eleven. The full board of the players Representatives

1983
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Speaker 1: were were voted, voted on the on that resolution, on

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Speaker 1: this resolution to answer those two questions or those two

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Speaker 1: points that the NFL gave for playing two preseason games.

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Speaker 1: And it was this that resolved that in the light

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Speaker 1: of the absence of medical justification for holding any preseason

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Speaker 1: games and the necessity necessity of adhering to the acclamation

1989
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Speaker 1: period in order to reduce the possibility of injuries, the

1990
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Speaker 1: NFLPA Board of Player Representatives recommends that no preseason games

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Speaker 1: would be played during the twenty twenty NFL preseason. And

1992
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: the board calls upon the NFL to cancel all preseason

1993
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Speaker 1: games due to the ongoing COVID pandemic. So and it

1994
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Speaker 1: was passed unanimously. So they're recommending that the league doesn't

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Speaker 1: pay any play any preseason games. Which is interesting to

1996
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 1: me because on the return after the lockout of twenty eleven,

1997
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Speaker 1: there was an uptick in in injuries. Both and JC

1998
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 1: Tredder he said it in his memo today in a

1999
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: letter he wrote that put out today that there was

2000
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Speaker 1: like a twenty five percent rise in achilles injuries, there's

2001
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Speaker 1: a forty four percent rise in hamstring injuries. So all

2002
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: of these things kind of speak to the fact they

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01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 1: got to do something before they start playing games. Now

2004
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 1: the players are just saying, hey, just you know, let us,

2005
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Speaker 1: you know, practice and not play, and the league is saying,

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Speaker 1: We'll wait a minute, we gotta ramp it up a

2007
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: little bit harder than that before we start playing games

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Speaker 1: for keeps. And I don't know where the compromise is

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Speaker 1: in that, Maddie, but I would say this, I don't

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Speaker 1: think the players have much leverage. Yeah, well, we'll find

2011
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Speaker 1: out where the compromises because they're going to have to

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Speaker 1: get this figured out in the next couple weeks here,

2013
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Speaker 1: and maybe the compromises one game instead of two, if

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Speaker 1: they can even agree on that. But right now it

2015
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Speaker 1: seems like the NFL wants one thing, the NFLPA wants another,

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Speaker 1: and there's there's no agreement yet. Do they they used

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01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: to play four games? Why two is better than four?

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01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 1: Why do you know? That seems like a compromise to

2019
01:49:57,760 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: me by the league, And now that the players don't

2020
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 1: want play any preseason games, I don't know, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: get it. I don't know how much leverage they have.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have any, but I may be wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: NFL true false Number two, Maddie, honesty is the biggest

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Speaker 1: trait needed for an NFL head coach. True or false.

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Speaker 1: I think honesty is very important and I think it's needed,

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Speaker 1: But I think leadership is needed more. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to say false. And I think honesty falls underneath a

2028
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Speaker 1: good leader. Yeah, I think a good leader is honest.

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Speaker 1: But I think you're right. I think as a wider

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Speaker 1: reaching characteristic, I think you ought to be a leader.

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Speaker 1: Honesty is something that players point to a lot because

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01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 1: they feel like they're not getting the whole story from

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Speaker 1: their coaching staff for whatever reason. I think that has

2034
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 1: changed over the years to a great degree. Back in

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Speaker 1: old days, you know, you lined your players up, you went,

2036
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Speaker 1: you lad and you did what you were told. You

2037
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: didn't ask questions and you weren't and you didn't expect

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Speaker 1: any answers. That's totally changed now, you know, given modern

2039
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Speaker 1: leadership techniques where yeah, you want you want everybody to

2040
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 1: be on inform, you want to know what you want

2041
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Speaker 1: them to know, what's expected of them, and you know

2042
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Speaker 1: that you want them to know what their consequences will

2043
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Speaker 1: be if they don't meet their expectations. And that's what

2044
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: leadership is. And but being honest while you're a leader,

2045
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 1: I think is important. I think you see that from

2046
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Speaker 1: a lot of veteran players who say, just tell me

2047
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 1: what's going on. I know it's a business. I know

2048
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm here, I got expectations put on me. Let me

2049
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Speaker 1: know what those expectation expectations are. I think veteran players

2050
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 1: really lean on honesty from a head coach, and I

2051
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: think that's why it was high in a recent poll

2052
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Speaker 1: for veteran players and what they expected from a head coach.

2053
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 1: So I think it is an important aspect, But I

2054
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: don't think it's the biggest trade. I think you're I'm

2055
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:54,839
Speaker 1: with you, Maddie. I think it's leadership rather than honesty.

2056
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Speaker 1: NFL true false Number three. The NFL could hurt college

2057
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Speaker 1: teams by not moving the twenty twenty one NFL Draft.

2058
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Speaker 1: This is in response, have you heard about the rumor

2059
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: that are not the rumor, but their possibility that in

2060
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 1: NCAA may move their college football season into the spring. Yes,

2061
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: if that happens, that's going to be an issue that

2062
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,799
Speaker 1: will affect the NFL and its ability to evaluate players

2063
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 1: and the draft and all of that stuff. Certainly, they're

2064
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 1: not allowed to draft players before their college eligibility is

2065
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:33,719
Speaker 1: used up. Yeah, so that's going to be a problem,

2066
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I mean, it's if college football gets

2067
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 1: moved to the spring, then true, the NFL could hurt

2068
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 1: college teams by not moving the NFL draft. If college

2069
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 1: football gets moved to the spring, you can't have an

2070
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Speaker 1: NFL draft when the NFL draft is supposed to be.

2071
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: It's as plain as simple as that. And so for

2072
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Speaker 1: the NFL to go, we're not moving an NFL draft.

2073
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen. So why are

2074
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 1: you saying that, Well, they're not, And the NFL ain't

2075
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 1: gonna move anything until they're forced to. Then they'll move

2076
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: anything it takes to put themselves in the best position

2077
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: to be successful. So they may not say they may

2078
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 1: say they're not going to move their the NFL draft.

2079
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 1: H Ever, but as soon as spring rolls around and

2080
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 1: they're in the midst of an NCAA season where most

2081
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 1: of the guys they want to draft are still college players.

2082
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 1: They'll probably say, you know why, we're just gonna move

2083
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 1: our draft. Um, they can do that and uh, and

2084
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: that's what will happen. So yeah, that would hurt in

2085
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 1: college teams by not moving the draft, if indeed the

2086
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 1: college season gets bumped back. But that's all, you know,

2087
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 1: that's all easy easy. I mean, you know all it

2088
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 1: takes for him just to say, hey, we're gonna move it,

2089
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Speaker 1: and that's it. It's moved. That's all it takes. So

2090
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 1: there you go. That's it. That's NFL true false, brought

2091
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 1: to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's artisan cheese. Um. Yeah,

2092
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: we don't think that NFL players have leverage to make

2093
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,600
Speaker 1: Trainey camp demands. We don't think that honesty is the

2094
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 1: biggest trait needed for an NFL head coach. Both of

2095
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 1: us think leadership is, and the NFL could hurt college

2096
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: teams by not moving the NFL draft. The twenty twenty

2097
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 1: one NFL Draft also the news of the day. Patrick

2098
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 1: Mahomes signed up a jillion dollar contract the last ten

2099
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: years and it doesn't even start for another or what

2100
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Speaker 1: two years he's still under He's still making money off

2101
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 1: his rookie contract and at the end of it, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be hooked up for another decade after that

2103
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Speaker 1: to the two and a four hundred and fifty million dollars.

2104
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Speaker 1: Here's one thing we haven't talked about yet that's quite

2105
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Speaker 1: interesting about this news breaking. Usually, usually Chefty is number

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Speaker 1: one on the scene to break this type of news,

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Speaker 1: and yes he was, but there was some There was

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Speaker 1: some people on Twitter talking about this before Chefty broke it.

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Speaker 1: And that's because this female who works at this bear

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Speaker 1: store or this liquor store in Kansas City, one of

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Speaker 1: the execs or higher ups with the chief walked in

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Speaker 1: and bought some bottles of Don Perry on. So of

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Speaker 1: course you're asking, what, why are you buying these bottles?

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Speaker 1: The season isn't even going on right now. What is

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Speaker 1: there to celebrate? We don't even know if the season

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01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: is going to happen. We think it is, but what

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Speaker 1: are you Why are you celebrating right now? And they go, oh,

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Speaker 1: we've got some big news going on and U doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to do with Chris Jones. Of course, it has

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Speaker 1: to do with Patrick Mahomes. Then, so she tweets out

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Speaker 1: that there might be a Patrick Mahomes deal coming out,

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Speaker 1: and then she ends up deleting the tweet because she

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to get in trouble for what she put

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Speaker 1: out there in the Twitter verse. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty funny that she was the one to break it first,

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Speaker 1: and Adam Schefter actually DMed her and said, way to go.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're doing you know, Okay, that's awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's yeah. I think you go out to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: You gotta watch what you say. Man, you know everybody's

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Speaker 1: got Twitter. Yeah, yeah, it almost got out. The liquor

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Speaker 1: store clerk knew it before anybody else. Good for her.

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Speaker 1: And how about Chefty? Did she dm Cheft or what?

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Speaker 1: I think Chef d DMed her because I think he

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Speaker 1: was getting her at enough in his mentions saying that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't the first one to break it. It was

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Speaker 1: this liquor store worker that was breaking it before he was.

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Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, Cheft, he's a cool guy.

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Speaker 1: He had to open up or admit that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: the first to break it and she was. That's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Also, also on our program today, we had

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Speaker 1: Mike Janetti, who is the founder and lead found the

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Speaker 1: founder and managing editor of spot Track. He gave us

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Speaker 1: the ins and outs of the contract he was He said,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of one of those contracts he's going to

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01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 1: stand out for a long time. It's a different type

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01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 1: of contract. You never see a ten year contract, particularly

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01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And the that the team

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: friendly nature of the first couple of years is huge

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01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs. That allows them to stay

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Speaker 1: intact and make a run at a couple more titles

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01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes in the in the fold, and it

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01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 1: allows them to build a roster around him and stay competitive.

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Speaker 1: So many times when they signed these deals, and Maddie,

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01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 1: we talk about all the time, there's just not enough

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01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 1: money to go around if you give all the money

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01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 1: to one guy. The Chiefs have structured this for the

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01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: next couple of year, handful of years so that they'll

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Speaker 1: be able to sign other quality players like Tyree Hill

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01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 1: and and the like to be on the team and

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01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 1: help him. Sammy Watkins deal got restructured, so that's it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty interesting deal. And the only question for me,

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01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 1: and maybe you're the same way, Maddie, is how long

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01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 1: is it going to be before one or the other

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01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: of them regrets signing that deal because right now both

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Speaker 1: of them are happy, right Yeah. Indy Reid was wearing

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01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:05,120
Speaker 1: his Tommy Bahama his Best Time in Bahama shirt when

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01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 1: he was doing interviews about the new deal with Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: So everybody is cheery and happy and there's reason to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: But the ten years is a long time and a

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Speaker 1: lot can happen in ten years. A lot of great

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Speaker 1: things can happen in ten years, a lot of unfortunate

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01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 1: things can happen in ten years, And nobody has the

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01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: crystal ball to look into Patrick Mahomes in the future

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Speaker 1: he will have in the NFL. Yes, what he's done

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01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 1: so far is incredible and no other quarterback can match

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Speaker 1: the type of product that he puts on the field.

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Speaker 1: But will that last for ten years? Twelve years right now,

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Speaker 1: which is what his total contract adds up to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And in twenty twenty, when Mike Janeti was on was

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Speaker 1: from spot Track, he ran it down. He said, the

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Speaker 1: real year that this thing becomes a little bit different

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Speaker 1: is twenty twenty seven, which seems like, wow, that's a

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Speaker 1: long sixty million, sixty million dollars much money. Now in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven the salary cap maybe you know, seven

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars too, so maybe it's not one. But

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Speaker 1: but you know, think about it, sixty million bucks that

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Speaker 1: goes cash right out of the top, right off the

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Speaker 1: top of the cap, goes right into in Pat mahomes pocket. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's big. That's big. So Patrick Mahomes is gonna play

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Speaker 1: until twenty twenty seven to get that chunk of cash

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Speaker 1: in his pocket. Then maybe things change after that. That's

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Speaker 1: from the player's perspective. From the Chiefs, as long as

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes keeps being Patrick Mahomes man, they don't they'll

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Speaker 1: pay it right, they don't care. That's it's gonna be huge,

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Speaker 1: And I think it is going to be a trend

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01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: setting deal for the National Football League. I think when

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Speaker 1: you can get a guy tied up that young, that's

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Speaker 1: that good and that door and that you know, aside

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Speaker 1: from injury, Uh, there's no reason to believe he's gonna

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Speaker 1: do anything but get better and better. So i'm i'm

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Speaker 1: I think it's a real smart move on both sides.

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Speaker 1: Down the road, I don't know what it's gonna do,

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Speaker 1: but certainly the Chiefs run the risk of being in

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Speaker 1: cap prison to one guy because they've got, you know,

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02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: too much money over the cap and they can't be

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02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 1: or they or they're gonna be in cap hell, or

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Speaker 1: they're not going to be very good because they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of you know guys and Jim Shortz

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Speaker 1: running around Patrick Mahomes and he's going to be out

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Speaker 1: there by himself. That's gonna be the real question. Can

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Speaker 1: they stay competitive throughout Patrick Mahomes' career. He's going to

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Speaker 1: give him an edge at that position for a long time,

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Speaker 1: but can they put enough guys around him to win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Because even he will tell you, yeah,

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02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks a key guy, but you've got to have fifty

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02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 1: three guys pulled in the same way. That's that's going

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Speaker 1: to be the real question of that contract to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And Janey said like this, he doesn't see this as

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Speaker 1: technically resetting the market because he looks at it as

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Speaker 1: as an anomaly, and that's what it is. Until the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys decide to give Dak Prescott a butt ton of

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02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 1: money too, then maybe it does reset the market. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just Shaun Watson, all these younger quarterbacks who have proved

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Speaker 1: their worth in the league, and then in a few

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02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 1: years you have some more who are gonna need new deals.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Sam Dark, Josh Allen. What if they start

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Speaker 1: proving themselves, then then is this the new norm? Maybe

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Speaker 1: not five hundred and three over ten years, but maybe

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Speaker 1: something that can get close to that. Yeah, and think

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Speaker 1: about it. There's always going to be some guy out

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02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 1: there and maybe not. Well, here's it is. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in a contract year and he plays better than

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes for one year, right, or he's gonna do

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02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 1: it early in his career. He's gonna have the kind

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Speaker 1: of year Pat Mahomes had as a rookie. Or he's

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Speaker 1: gonna win Super Bowl MVP as a young guy headed

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Speaker 1: towards a new contract. You know, I think about Lamar

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02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 1: Jackson is on track to do that. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: had one year where he's his second year in the league,

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Speaker 1: US an MVP in the league, and like Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: gonna go into his third year, he's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: a good team. Maybe if the Baltimore Ravens win the

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02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:11,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Now he's got the exact same career path

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02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:13,680
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes did, who just signed a four hundred

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02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars deal. His agent just goes in

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02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 1: flops down the new newspaper says, hey, me too. That's

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02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: all he does, right, me too. And that's that's what

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02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:29,080
Speaker 1: you're looking at. Somewhere along the line, somebody's gonna say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm every bit the quarterback Pat Mahomes is, or I

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Speaker 1: had the better year than he did. This year, I

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02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 1: had a better you know this or that or the other.

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02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 1: And that's how it works. And I don't know that's

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02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 1: a that's a long way down the line, but man,

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02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 1: oh man, what a contract. And good for him. Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Mattie Glad, we'll be right back with what have we

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Speaker 1: learned here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. What we learned brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company

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02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had the founder and managing

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Speaker 1: editor of spot Track on, Mike Janetti about the Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes contract extension. Here's what he said about the record

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02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 1: breaking ten year deal. This is no joke. If you

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Speaker 1: just look at the nuts and bolts of this the start,

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02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 1: it looks like a typical standard extension that has an

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02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 1: out after three years, like every other quarterback contract. That

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02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:28,600
Speaker 1: is not the case. This thing is loaded with early

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02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:32,000
Speaker 1: vesting guarantees. I mean some of these things vest two

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02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,680
Speaker 1: years early, so you know the Chiefs are all in.

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Speaker 1: There's really not a logical place over the course of

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Speaker 1: the next twelve years where the Chiefs can say we're

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Speaker 1: getting out of this and releasing Patrick Mahomes. If he

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02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: wants to stay on this contract, he can get all

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02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy seven million dollars and there's not

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02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 1: too much the Chiefs can do about it. There's a

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Speaker 1: full note trade clause. Like I said, early vesting options.

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02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 1: He can even get hurt this year and he's still

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02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 1: going to get paid one hundred and forty million dollars,

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02:03:57,080 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 1: which is five years of this contract. There's so much

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02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 1: play their control. This is unprecedented for the NFL. We

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02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 1: also had Tom Kerrn of the Patriots of the NBC

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02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 1: Boston Sports on today. He also had this to say

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Speaker 1: about the Patriots signing Cam Newton and whether it was

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02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 1: a marriage of convenience, what will it mean long term?

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02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:20,440
Speaker 1: That to me is what's fascinating, because if Cam Newton

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02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 1: plays like a top ten quarterback. He's thirty two. Tom

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02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 1: Brady was forty two, and the Patriots was saying, yeah, no,

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02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 1: we're not going to do twenty five million dollars for you.

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02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:31,840
Speaker 1: They had every kind of excuse why they wouldn't do that,

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02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 1: but at Cam Newton. But at thirty two, would Cam

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02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 1: Newton be somebody that they would entertain that with? I wonder.

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02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 1: That was Tom Kerrn of NBC Sports Boston on the

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02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 1: Cam Newton signing by the Patriots long term. Don't know

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02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: what it's going to look like, Mattie, but certainly it

2294
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 1: did cause a lot of Bills fans to turn over

2295
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,920
Speaker 1: in their sleep one night and maybe maybe wake up

2296
02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 1: staring at the ceiling as to what that really means

2297
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 1: for the division. Yeah, it'll it'll be intriguing. I mean,

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02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure people thought, can this truly be the Bill's division?

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02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:13,560
Speaker 1: If Cam Newton goes off like he did in his

2300
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:17,000
Speaker 1: first couple of years with the Panthers, that that maybe

2301
02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 1: throws a wrench into the equation there. But I'm still

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02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 1: confident in the Buffalo Bills and what they have going

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02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 1: for themselves, and the staff and the players and what

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02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen can do. I still think it's going to

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02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,840
Speaker 1: be a great season for the Bills. Yeah, the Bills

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02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:32,760
Speaker 1: are gonna be good. No matter who's playing quarterback for

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02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:35,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots. It's gonna be fun seasons to watch if

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02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 1: they can indeed do it. You were scheduled to be

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02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 1: on the entire week, but you've got a project you're

2310
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 1: working on. It's gonna take tomorrow, something big and super secret.

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02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 1: I guess, yep, I am. I'm off tomorrow from the show,

2312
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 1: but I'll still be working behind the scenes. We're shooting

2313
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:52,800
Speaker 1: something pretty cool that has to cover the Bills and

2314
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 1: the Sabers will hopefully get released in the next couple

2315
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,360
Speaker 1: of weeks. Can't tell you exactly what it is, but

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02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 1: there's some pretty important people that are not me because

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Speaker 1: I'm not important. That's a pretty important we're going to

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Speaker 1: be involved in this, So alright, something once released that

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Speaker 1: will be awesome to watch and I think pretty eye opening. Cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, since Mattie's not gonna be here tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Luke Tasker's gonna come on. I twisted the arm of

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Speaker 1: my of our middle child. He's gonna come on co

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Speaker 1: host with me. Luke Tasker coming on. We've got it

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Speaker 1: also coming on tomorrow. Another Buffalo resident, guy who grew

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Speaker 1: up in Buffalo now playing in the Canadian Football League

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Speaker 1: naming Roosevelt's going to come on with us tomorrow as well.

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Speaker 1: We've got that going for you. Thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: We had Mike Janettie, Tom Curran, Emily Kaplan all guests today.

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Speaker 1: Mattie Glab was on with us. You can go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to any part of this on the podcast

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills dot com or on the Bills app

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Speaker 1: as well. Join us again tomorrow noon to three. This

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Speaker 1: is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow at noon on Buffalo Bills Radio