1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. In. Today we're addressing 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies six genre mash up film Devil's Express 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: also known as Gang Wars. Did you know about this 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: alternate title? Rob? Yeah, yeah, I'd run across some sort 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: of alternate trailers for it. I guess you see this 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: a lot with with with films that came came out, 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: especially back in the in the nineteen seventies, where it 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: comes out, maybe it doesn't play as well, or maybe 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: something else happens in the zeitgeist and you want to 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: you want a second shot at it, so you just 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: retitle it and put it out there again and see 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: if you catch any any viewers. So the claim that 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: I came across, uh, we should maybe it's best to 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: start with the elevator pitch. The elevator pitch here is 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: that when an ancient Chinese demon is released the subway 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: tunnels of New York, a saintly master of the martial 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: arts named Luke Curtis must summon all his courage to 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: defeat the Underground Evil. So it is a martial arts 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: demon horror movie, but it also has elements of like 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: gang fighting in the streets. And according to a write 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: up by Code Red, which I think did the Blu 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: ray rerelease of this movie, that they said that when 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: The Warriors was released theatrically, which I think would have 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: been in nineteen seventy nine, so three years after this 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: movie came out, they say, the distributor of Devil's Express 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: re titled it Gang Wars essentially to make it look 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: like a Warrior's type movie. Of course, if you haven't 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: seen The Warriors, that's just it's a movie about all 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: these weird, different little gangs in New York that have 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: their their own interesting costumes and quirks, and they're running 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: around fighting each other and all that. And I think 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to cash in on that that Warriors magic. Yeah, 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, The Warriors is is a fabulously weird film 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: in its own right, because when we say weird gangs, 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: we mean if you haven't seen it, it's like there's 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: a baseball gang, there's the Baseball Furies. That's right. The 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: first time I saw that, that was the funniest thing 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: about it. To me, they were wearing baseball uniforms and 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: they have bats, I think. Yeah, so it's like it's 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: it's as if it's said in an alternate reality where 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: you just have a bunch of wacky, wacky gangs with 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: all these wacky themes. Uh. So it's definitely worth worth 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: checking out superior movie to what we're talking about here today. 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: But the one we're talking about here today, Devil's Express, 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: is just a wonderful mash up of of different genres, 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: uh that they all kind of slammed together awkwardly, uh 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, uh, scraping up against each other sometimes jack 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: knifing around each other in a way that that is 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: ultimately quite entertaining. Yeah. So they retitled at Gang Morris 52 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: and there are gangs in this movie, and the gangs 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: do fight, but this movie really has more to do 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: with its star Warhawk ten Zania down a demon to 55 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: fight in the subway tunnels. Yes, and you know, we 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: can we can introduce war Hawk Tanzania all day and 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: and we're going to get into war Hawk Tanzania in 58 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: a minute. But why don't we go ahead and listen 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: to the trailer. The original TV trailer for the film 60 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: because you really need a narrator's voice to introduce Warhawk 61 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Tanzania to the world. To take a ride on the 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: Devil's Expressed. What happens when two thousand years of evil 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: strike a city see Warhawk Tanzania match blows which the 64 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: Devil and those the Devil has possessed to Ford monsoon 65 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: take a ride on the Devil's Express. It may be 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: your last star rated R. See now, are aren't you 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: completely on board with Warhawk Tanzania the either the next 68 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: big thing or the cur big thing based on the 69 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: salesmanship in this uh, in this particular trailer. One thing 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: about the trailer is the trailer really plays it up 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: as a horror movie. I think, what do you think 72 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: about that? They definitely stressed the monster movie aspects of this, 73 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: which I think is I mean, that's what brought me 74 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: to it. I realized, Oh, this is not just a 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: New York City martial arts gang war movie. No, there's 76 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: also some sort of a subway monster in it. There's 77 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: a demon and um and I'm a sucker for any 78 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: any film that that puts monsters in a subway, especially 79 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: the New York subway system. Um. I'm just instantly enthralled. Oh, 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: of course there. But stylistically this film has a lot 81 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: of things in common with a lot of these sort 82 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: of crime exploitation movies of the nineteen seventies. I've seen 83 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people online uh saying that it has 84 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: elements similar to black exploitation films, which are a a 85 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: genre that has has a very complicated legacy. Of course, 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: these were films that came out in the early seventies, 87 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: especially they're they're often said to have been inspired by 88 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: a couple of seminal works. One was Melvin Van Peeble's 89 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Sweet Sweet Backs Badass Song, which I think came out 90 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one, and another big one was Gordon 91 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Parks movie Shaft. And it's debatable whether those are whether 92 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: those should actually be thought of as black exploitation movies themselves, 93 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: but they certainly are are thought to have inspired this 94 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: genre of films that had sort of larger than life 95 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: black heroes, but that also tended to deal with themes 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: of of crime. And we're often said in New York 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: City and have this complicated legacy because on one hand 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: that they had these larger than life black heroes. I've 99 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: read about some scholars talking about how you know, finally 100 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: you could have like a black hero on the level 101 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: of James Bond, that kind of like superhuman nous uh 102 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: in a movie starring in a movie of his own. 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: But then also like the term black exploitation actually was 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: coined by a member of the Double a c P 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: who is very against the genre, who because basically, I 106 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: think he thought that it perpetuated negative stereotypes about the 107 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: black communities in America. Yeah, because these were often movies 108 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: about crime, so that you know, you had you had 109 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: gangs in them, they had they had would feature uh, 110 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: prostitution or drugs and violence. Um. And and if you 111 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: just if you're just watching these films of this genre, 112 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, it makes you think like this is all 113 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: there is, this is all there is to um to 114 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: two black culture into black life in America at the time. 115 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: And in a similar way, of course, you also have 116 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: kung fu exploitation films, and this is also the kung 117 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: fu exploitation film where if you watch films of this caliber, 118 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you see um, basically Asian characters, Asian cultures, and certainly 119 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: uh in this case like Asian American life as being 120 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: just martial arts like, this is a movie that features 121 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: several different Asian actors, or at least Asian stuntman and 122 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Asian martial artists, but there's not a single Asian character 123 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: of any depth. I like, I do not know any 124 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: of the Asian characters names in this film. I don't 125 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: know that they're given names. Yeah, that's right. And of 126 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: course this movie would not be the only one that 127 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: sort of mashed up the the seventies martial arts exploitation 128 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: style movie with black exploitation aesthetics. These two things had 129 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: collided in other films as well, but in this case 130 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: it also brings in horror, which is a very interesting 131 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: third element here, third rail. It's the third rail that 132 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: drives the train, you could say that. So of course 133 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: this is a This is a grimy seventies grindhouse film, 134 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: but it also borders on one of our favorite genres 135 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: that we've discussed before. Of course, this other genre we've 136 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: talked about was the supernatural wrestling movie, such as the 137 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: film starring El Santo, where the noble luchador hero must 138 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: confront a mummy or a dracula. The one we talked 139 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: about on the show was Santo and the Treasure of Dracula, 140 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: which it was a really fun movie to talk about. Uh. Here, 141 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: this is not exactly the same thing, but it's kind 142 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: of close. Because this is essentially a supernatural martial arts movie. 143 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: Like Warhawk, Tanzania must confront not just corrupt cops and 144 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: rival gangs on the gritty streets of nineteen seventies New York, 145 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: but the denizens of hell itself. Absolutely. Yeah, and I mean, 146 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: and it's ultimately it's it's a Baowolf and Grendel story. 147 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: You know. It's the story of the hero who must 148 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: travel down into the depths, into the dark realm where 149 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: the monster lives, in order to defeat it. Uh and 150 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: uh and you know that's exactly what happens in this film. 151 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, is this our first martial arts film 152 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: on Weirdhouse Cinema? Have we done another pure martial arts film? Uh? 153 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: So many movies have elements of martial arts in them. 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: I would find it hard to believe we haven't touched 155 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: on anything there. But this might be the closest thing 156 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: to a pure martial arts movie. Yeah. All right, Well, 157 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and talk about the people who made 158 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: this possible. There's a there's some several fun connections in 159 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: this film. Um At first glance, it might look like 160 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: a you know, with these z pictures from a casting standpoint, 161 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: where where nobody goes on to to do anything else 162 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: or has any kind of interesting connections for the rest 163 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: of the world. But that is not the case. Let's 164 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: start at the top with the director and also one 165 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: of the screenwriters, Barry rosen bore N six. He only 166 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: directed a couple of pictures, but he was a producer 167 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: on the nineteen seventy five film Black Force, where he 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: apparently met some of the stars of that that he 169 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: would utilize in Devil's Express And as a producer, he 170 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: went on to work on some at least a couple 171 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: of really fun projects, including Highway to Hell in he 172 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: was line producer on that. This is the the Wonderful 173 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Hell Cop Movie, starring Patrick Bergen and the entire Stiller family. 174 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Like Ben Stiller's in it, Ben Stellar's mom is in it, 175 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Ben Stellar's dad is in it. Yeah, weird, so weird. 176 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: It is a weird film. Gilbert Godfrey shows up playing 177 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: Hitler uh because it's hell Uh. There's all these bizarre 178 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: elements in it, So that's that's definitely. Um. I haven't 179 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: seen it in a while, but that was one I 180 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: finally remember catching on like USA Network back in the day. Okay, 181 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: and then Rosen also produced twenty two episodes of Highlander, 182 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: the series, so uh, kudos on that. I can just 183 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: see him sending the dailies back being like no, no, 184 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: gotta have more juice in these quickening scenes. Now I 185 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: mentioned that Rosen was one of the writers on Devil's Express. 186 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: There are four other screenwriters that are credited, so this 187 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: is basically Rosen at all. Um. I'll list their names 188 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: quickly here, but but they didn't really I don't think 189 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: any of them really went on to do much else. 190 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: But uh, still, the people that made this possible Nicky Patton, Uh, 191 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: Pascal Vacuire, Ceotis Robinson, and Bobby Saberstein. These are the screenwriters. 192 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: Moving on, let's get to the main event here. Let's 193 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: get to our to our star, the man who and 194 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: this plays Luke. But it's hard to imagine anybody with 195 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: a name like this just playing someone with a name 196 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: like Luke. But we're talking about war Hawk Tanzania. You know. 197 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: I read some reviews saying like, uh, sort of deriding 198 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: the film for trying to rely on the what they 199 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: claimed was non existent star power of war Hawk Tanzania. 200 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: But I kind of disagree. I mean, war Hawk Tanzania 201 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: is clearly not a not a super experienced actor, but 202 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: I do kind of think he has star power. Yeah, 203 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: I think he absolutely has star power. I mean, he 204 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: he has the looks, he has this, this this really 205 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: righteous afro hairstyle. This, he's he's got this cool mustache. 206 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: He's he's lean, he's mean, he can throw some kicks 207 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: and punches. And yes, he only has I think two 208 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: different delivery styles for his dialogue, but you feel it 209 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: when he delivers those those lines like he's still he's 210 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: still connecting with you. But but yeah, to think about 211 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: the trailer, especially a couple of trailers that I watched 212 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: for this, is that they really do sell war Hawk 213 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: Tanzania as if he is either the you know, the 214 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: the current big thing or the next big thing in 215 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: martial arts cinema. Like he is exploding. The war Hawk 216 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Tanzania train is about to leave the station. Are you 217 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: going to get on board? Yes? I'm on board. Yes, 218 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: I have my tickets right here, first class. Because I mean, 219 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: if nothing else. It's also just an amazing name. War 220 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Hawk Tanzania just undeniably cool, and we see that in 221 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: his character too, Like I feel we call him Luke, 222 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like the characters war Hawk Tanzania as well. 223 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: I should also stress war Hawk Tanzania had one, I 224 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: think one film credit prior to this and no film 225 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: credits after this. Uh. He was in that that exploitation 226 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: film Black Force that I mentioned earlier that came before this, 227 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: and then he he just does not appear in anything else. Um. 228 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: And I don't think anything is really publicly known about 229 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: the man. I would say that it probably went one 230 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: of two ways though. Either after this film he has 231 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: decided that he was just going to live a private 232 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: life and be a private citizen, and if so, you know, 233 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: more power to him, or war Hawk Tanzania has spent 234 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: the decades since this movie battling actual demons and monsters 235 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: around the world, taking the fight to the forces of 236 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: evil as only war Hawk Tanzania can. He is a 237 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: he is a martial arts exorcist of your mass transit systems. Yes, 238 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: he's a fighter. He's a lover. Uh, he's a demon hunter, 239 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: He's a peace broker. He brings it all to the table. 240 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: Totally agree and believe it or not, there are other 241 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: actors in this film. I mean it seems like like 242 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: maybe they at first they thought we we'll just cast 243 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: war Hawk. We don't need anybody else. War Hawk Tanzania 244 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: is enough to fill up an entire film. But then 245 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: they as well, we have to catch all these other 246 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: roles too. Uh huh, Well, I don't know if I 247 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: know anybody's name except Rodan. Well, first there's uh, we'll 248 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: get to well, let's go ahead and hit Rodan, because 249 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: Rodan's his but Rodan's is his his companion. They're on 250 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: the same course, they're on the you know that they 251 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: seem to have the same mission in life, but it 252 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: becomes clear as we'll discuss that they do have different 253 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: agendas going on. There there's some conflict between them. Oh yeah, 254 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: there's totally conflict. But I mean, so Rodan is Luke's 255 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: student in the movie, his student of martial arts, because 256 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: Luke is a martial arts master. But whereas Luke is 257 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: you could argue pretty much lawful good. You know, he's 258 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: in many ways sort of a paladin or presented as such, 259 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: viewed as such by the creators of the film. Rodan 260 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I would say is more in the sort of chaotic 261 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: neutral territory. Yeah, yeah, he's you know, he'll he'll be good, 262 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: especially if he's there with Luke, if you know, he 263 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: has that that war hawk energy keeping him in line. 264 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: But if he's off on his own, uh, you know, 265 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: he's he's running games all over town. As we find 266 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: out now. Rodan is played by the actor and martial 267 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: artists Wilfredo roll Dan, who lived I think nine through 268 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: so he did pass away last last year. Um Lower 269 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: East Side resident and apparently like regional at least regional 270 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: martial arts legend. Uh. He was born in Puerto Rico, 271 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: and he moved to the continental United States at a 272 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: young age. His acting career seems to have consist of 273 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: two different periods. He did some exploitation films when he 274 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: was very young, including this one, and then some other 275 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: film work later in his life after he retired from 276 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: a career as a as a pe teacher for the 277 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: for the New York City Board of Education. He you 278 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: can look him up there in his their websites about 279 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: him and memorials to him. He apparently sang he was 280 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: a much beloved uh master, I think a grand master 281 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: of a particular system of martial arts. Uh that he 282 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: did not I don't think he did not found this. 283 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: The school of Martial Arts was founded by a guy 284 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: in the name of Frank Ruez. But yeah, he was 285 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: an accomplished martial artist and like sort of a regional celebrity. 286 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, you'd hear to talk about like New York 287 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: City people, you know, uh, the sort of characters that 288 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: that fill up the city that might not necessarily be 289 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: no own by people who are not themselves New Yorkers. 290 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: What seems like Wilfredo was one of those individuals. And 291 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: he's a he's he's pretty good in this movie. You 292 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: see him that I was throwing some amazing kicks and 293 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: he's he's not bad. As an actor. I feel like 294 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: he's got as a sort of a natural chrisma as well, 295 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: but also a kind of uh something you don't trust 296 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: about him. He's got a meanness to him, and of 297 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: course that comes out in the character as well. Now 298 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: there's another martial arts really partial martial artist character that 299 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: shows up earlier on and that's a cop character by 300 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: the name of Chris and Chris was played by Larry Fleischman. Uh, 301 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: this is another like Warhawk age unknown. Don't know when 302 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: this guy was born. Um, presumably still alive. British born actor. 303 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: He popped up in nine Johnny Got His Gun. He 304 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: was on All My Children, Law and Order, a couple 305 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: of video games. He's perfectly fine in this. Now another 306 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: really interesting and weird actor that shows up in this film. 307 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: Not very much like he basically shows up for two scenes, 308 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: almost as if you wander into the shot and they 309 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: decided to pay him. Um. But a wonderful, wonderful actor 310 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: that many people probably know by his his stage name, 311 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: his performance name. Talking about brother Theodore. Oh, his scene 312 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: in this movie was one of the best parts of 313 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yeah, um, I think is it two scenes? 314 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: Is he also? Is there a scene where he's looking 315 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: at a dead body in a subway with some police 316 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: officers for no real reason. Uh? If so, I missed, 317 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: don't recall that one. I remember the one where he's 318 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: preaching to the crowd, and we'll get to that later. Yeah. 319 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: He mainly just has a ranting scene. So yeah. Brother 320 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: Theodore also known as Theodore Gottlieb. He was born in 321 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: nineteen o six, died in two thousand and one, and 322 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: I read, I've read that he improved all of his 323 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: lines in this as well. Um, he was a German 324 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: American actor who performed a kind of stream of consciousness 325 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: stand up and he has a fascinating life. I was 326 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: reading the New York Times, Oh bit for him by 327 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: Douglas Martin, and the whole thing's worth reading. Fascinating character. 328 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: But I want to read just these, these, these two 329 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: snippets from it quote. Born to great wealth in Germany, 330 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: he ended up in Dachau, only to be released when 331 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: he signed over the family's great fortune for a single mark. Einstein, 332 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: said by some of Mr Gottlieb's friends to have been 333 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: his mother's lover, helped him get to the United States. 334 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: And then we also here, always an aristocrat, he suddenly 335 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: found himself working as a janitor at Stanford University, where 336 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: he managed to defeat thirty professors at chess simultaneously. So 337 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, I don't know anything about this guy. 338 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: So I admit I'm coming from a place of ignorance. 339 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: But I feel incredulous at reading these sentences the thirty 340 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean also knowing that he is very much a 341 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: performer and um uh and and kind of a professional weirdo. 342 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't doubt him on the on the 343 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: core backstory here, but the chess thing raises my suspicion. 344 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: Maybe he really was a brilliant chess uh player? And 345 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: and which is you know, wiped up the matt with 346 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of Stanford University professors. But I don't know 347 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: either way. I like them the myth building though, because 348 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: he seems this is one of those weird characters you 349 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: see show up in some stuff and um, yeah, it 350 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: seems like it's hard to tell where the mythology ends 351 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: in the real life begins with him. But anyway, he 352 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: he ended up in the United States eventually got into 353 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: acting in comedy. He had a small part in Orson 354 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: Wells The Stranger in nineteen forty six, which was his 355 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: first role, and many of our listeners probably know him 356 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: from his final picture. He shows up in nine the Bourbs. 357 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember the Bourbs? Joe? Um? Is that the 358 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: one with Tom Hanks. I'm not sure that I've seen it. 359 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: It's it's one I saw when I was a kids. 360 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it as an adult. But you have 361 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: a number of of weird character actors playing weird neighbors 362 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: in that. I think Bruce Dern is in it as 363 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: well a couple other people that you know, people would 364 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: viewers would recognize. But yeah, but yeah, Brother Theodore, isn't 365 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: it playing one of the neighborhood weirdos and it's pretty 366 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm sorry, does they have vampires? I don't 367 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: think it has vampires. I think it's just weirdos. It's 368 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: got while since I've seen it. I don't remember what 369 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: the payoff was, but there was a lot of like 370 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: creepy goings on and like suburban basements. May be confusing 371 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: the bourbs with the money pit. Yeah, different movie, but 372 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: some very similar era, I think now. Brother Theodore has 373 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: two excellent voice actor performances on his um filmography from 374 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: the animated films of Drunken and Bass. So he uh 375 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: he played Have you ever seen two? Is the Last Unicorn? 376 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: Joe No, I haven't Okay? Fabulous film score by America, wonderful, 377 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: wonderful vocal of voice acting performances throughout. But Brother Theodore 378 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: places character Rock Uh Hunchback who attends the witch Mommy Fortuna, 379 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: who runs this, uh, this I Joe of of magical 380 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: creatures and monsters, and so he's this, uh, he's this 381 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: really fun character and not a not a huge character 382 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: in the film, but a memorable one. Another character you 383 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: played in the Ranking and Bess animated films. He voiced 384 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: Gollum in nineteen seventy seven The Hobbit and in nineteen 385 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: eighties The Return of the King. Both great roles, both 386 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: great performances. Um, I have to say, I've i've I've 387 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: fallen back in love with the original animated Hobbit in 388 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and I think i'm I 389 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: can without a doubt. I can say, brother Theodore is 390 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: my Gollum. Can you sing the songs? No? I can't 391 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: sing sing the song, but has good songs in it too. 392 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: Seven The Hobbit also one movie. It's it's it's brilliant. 393 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: They managed to fit that that entire short book into 394 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: one short film. I don't think you could do it 395 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: in less than for six hour movies. Yeah, somehow they 396 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: did it. Ranken and Best. Okay, who else we got 397 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: in this? Alright? So we have some The next one 398 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: I want to mention because it's it's a weird uh credit. 399 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: On the the cast for this, there's somebody that is 400 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: referred to as um Uh Skagi Tanzania or as uh 401 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: Tissagy Iron Prist Tanzania. And I'm not sure if that's 402 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be priest or if it's priest misspelled, like 403 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's uh uh Sakaki Iron Priest Tanzania. I don't know. 404 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: I don't know which character this is. I don't know 405 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: why they also have the last name Tanzania. It's a 406 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: total mystery to me. It just adds to the allure 407 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: of the film. Though. Yeah, we have a We have 408 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: an actor by the name of Aki along in this 409 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: who plays a Chinese businessman. He was born in nineteen 410 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: thirty four Asian actor, born in Trinidad and Tobago. He 411 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: has a bit this is a bit part. It's not 412 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: really much to but it's memorable. We'll get to it. 413 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: But he has a number of parts in a lot 414 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: of films. Over the years. He did some acting and directing. 415 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: He was in two episodes of the original Outer Limits. 416 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: He was on the As the World Turns, He was 417 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: in The General Hospital, Jake and the Fat Man Babylon five, 418 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: and he was also in Dragging the Bruce Lee story. Okay, 419 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: we have a character actor show up as well. Uh, 420 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: and this is another one where I don't think he 421 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: really does much in this film, but the actor Teddy Wilson, 422 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: but he has some brief but minoral interactions because you 423 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: can in he's one of these actors where you know, 424 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: war Hawks great in this, but war Hawk doesn't have 425 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of nuance to his performance. But Teddy Wilson, 426 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: you can tell like this is a guy who who 427 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: gets some of the the intricacies of acting in ways 428 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: that the martial artists maybe do not. It's always an 429 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic in martial arts films where the main cast 430 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: is full of martial artists, people who you could say 431 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: are martial artists first, an actors second, and then they 432 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: will often try to round it out just by filling 433 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: in like great character actors, to bring in that kind 434 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: of personality and texture that's not always there in people 435 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: who's whose first thing is martial arts. Yeah, yeah, and 436 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, Teddy Teddy Wilson definitely stands out talented actor. 437 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: He lived through Um he played Sweet Daddy Williams on 438 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: Good Times, and he did a lot of additional TV 439 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: work popping up on big TV shows from that era, including, 440 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: but not limited to, by any means, All in the Family, 441 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: Sanford and Son, The Bionic Woman, The Jefferson's, the nineteen 442 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: eighties Twilight Zone series l a Law, Alien Nation, family Matters, 443 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: and even Tales from the Crypt. He was in the 444 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: episode Fitting Punishment. I don't know if you remember this one, 445 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: but this uh, this had a uh it involved a 446 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: black funeral home and you had the wonderful actor Moses 447 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Gunn playing this tyrannical funeral director there like being being 448 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: just like a just really hard on his nephew. No, 449 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen it. It's it's a good 450 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: It's not like Top Shelf, uh, Tales from the Crypt, 451 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty good. And Teddy Wilson shows up 452 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: in it. Um. But yeah, Teddy Wilson was He isn't 453 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff. He was in films by John 454 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Cassavetti's Blake Edwards, and he was in the nineteen eighties 455 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Steve McQueen movie The Hunter. Alright. Some other names of 456 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: note and also names that are barely worth noting. There's 457 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: an actor by the name of Stephen DeFazio, who plays 458 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: Sam the lugheaded cop Um a memorable character in the film, 459 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: but this is his only film role. Um. But yeah, 460 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: he's he's pretty fun as a lugheaded conspiracy theory spreading 461 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: a police officer. Wait, is he supposed to be a lughead? 462 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: I get that he's like the butt of jokes, but 463 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: I thought the whole point was that he's kind of 464 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: like Harley Stone's new partner. He's like the he's I've 465 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: got a criminology degree. He's, you know, bringing this kind 466 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: of like smooth academic sensibility that's actually stupid. I mean, 467 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: maybe that's what they were going for. I got more 468 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: lugheaded conspiracy theory spreader. Uh. He he is the guy 469 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: who keeps saying that the murders caused by the demon 470 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: and the subway tunnels are actually caused by mutant cats. Okay, 471 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: but but he's fine. Clearly the they ended up like 472 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: ending on a note from him with the film, so 473 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: that they clearly like the character once they got it 474 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: on the screen. All right. Uncredited, but Ron Becks is 475 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: in this as a martial arts student. Uncredited in this picture, 476 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: but he went on to direct, produce, and star in 477 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: several low budget movies. I think is still making low 478 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: budget movies. Um, starring in pictures that he directed opposite 479 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: such names as One Time Bond, George Lasenby, and even 480 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: Eric Roberts. And you know Eric Roberts won't just appear 481 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: in anything. Um. Here's another one of note. Paul Glickmana 482 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: was the director of photography on this. He was also 483 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: a cinematographer on some other famous seventies genre films, including 484 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: The Stuff and God Told Me To Now, as far 485 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: as music goes on this film, I don't think it 486 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: really has a score per se, but they do feature 487 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: a number of different musical bits, and it features several 488 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: tracks from a music group called Rising Sun like Son 489 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: and Daughter Rising Sun, which which didn't mean anything to 490 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: me until I started looking into it a little bit. 491 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: And these songs were written by Harlem disco legend Patrick Adams. Now, 492 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: if you haven't heard of Patrick Adams, you'r you can 493 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: be forgiven for that. Apparently he's he's often um forgotten 494 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: or not recognized outside of the genre, but is what 495 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: is is very well respected within the disco genre and 496 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: in DJ circles. Uh. There was a two thousand seventeen 497 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: Guardian profile about him that described him as quote the 498 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: underground disco super producer whom DJ is still at doore. Okay, 499 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: So even if you don't know the name Patrick Adams 500 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: off the top of your your head, you've you've probably 501 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: heard some of the songs that he worked on. Uh. 502 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: Some some of these songs were prominently featured in other movies, 503 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: including Uh, Touched Me All Night Long performed by Fonda 504 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: Ray and the band Wish from four, which is a 505 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: minor hit on its own, but then it went on 506 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: to be featured in A Nightmare on Elm Street to 507 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: Freddie's Revenge. I know that movie well. Other tracks that 508 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: he had a hand in include Dance Dance Dance by 509 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: Martin Acuna, in the Bush by Music, Keep On Jumping 510 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: by Music. Um that's also the name of the seventy 511 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: eight album and you can look that up in Spotify. 512 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: It's it's great stuff, just wonderful seventies disco vibe. Also 513 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: Till You Surrender by Rainbow Brown and many others. So, uh, 514 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: this ended up. At first, I thought there wasn't gonna 515 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: be anything special with the music on this picture, but 516 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: it turns out it was very special. So if you 517 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with the work of Patrick Adams, 518 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: look it up. Uh, you've heard it before, you said, 519 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: didn't realize you've heard it before. But yeah, he had 520 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: his hand in so many great tracks, and I think 521 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: he's still making music today. I also really enjoyed the 522 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: soundtrack on this, and one of the things I liked 523 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: was the sudden transitions between like really great uh pulsing 524 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: U disco or or funk music immediately cutting to like 525 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: throbbing deep sea sound effects when it was trying to 526 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: get the demon in your mind. Yeah, all right, well 527 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: let's get the demon in mind on this episode. Let's 528 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: jump into the plot of Devil's Express. Alrighty well, the 529 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: very first thing we see we get a little title. 530 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: It says China two Where in China? Just somewhere in China, 531 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: Though it quickly becomes a parent that any scene in 532 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: this film that's supposed to take place in China is 533 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: clearly still New York. Specifically, I think they shot this 534 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: at Harriman State Park, Bear Mountain. Uh so, yeah, it's 535 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: it's very obviously not China, but it's supposed to be. 536 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: What do you think the scene of the plane landing 537 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. You think that was real stock footage. 538 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: I think it was real stock footage all the way 539 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: now here at Harriman State Park in in China, we 540 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: have some monks who are disposing of some kind of 541 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: fearful artifact. That's the first thing you see him in 542 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: a train sort of not a train, like a locomotive. 543 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: That they are walking in a row carrying this big 544 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: box like a sarcophagus almost, or like they're carrying the 545 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: ark of the covenant. And uh, they are also there. 546 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: They're being watched over by this kind of head priest guy, 547 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: and they have in their possession a mirrored amulet, and 548 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: they take this big box and the mirrored amulet deep 549 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: into a cave in the forest, and they deposit the 550 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: amulet in the box in the cave, and then I 551 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: guess it's Quentin time. And once it's quit In time, 552 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 1: they are all beheaded. I think this is presumably so 553 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: they take the secret of the amulet to the grave 554 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: with them. So their their leader, after beheading each of 555 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: them in a row, he cuts his own throat. And 556 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: so one would assume that the secret evil of whatever 557 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: is in that boxes is now safe forever or is it? Well, yeah, 558 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: they don't count on meddling more martial artists from the 559 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: United States coming to China and the twentieth century. One 560 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: thing I like in this movie is that, at least 561 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: in this opening scene. I think this was actually less 562 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: true in some of the later scenes, but in this 563 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: opening it has some really way over the line sound effects. 564 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where somebody swings a sword 565 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: and hits nothing, just swings it in the air, but 566 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: it produces this extremely loud steel cable kind of sound. 567 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: And then after that we get to one of these 568 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: great editing montages I was talking about earlier, which is 569 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: really funny because it's cutting during the opening credits. It's 570 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: cutting between a subway tunnel with these spooky, deep chirping 571 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: sounds and no music, and then immediately back to crowded 572 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: streets in New York City with feel good music at 573 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: full volume. And then we meet our hero. We meet 574 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: Warhawk Tanzania playing this guy named Luke Curtis, and Luke 575 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: is teaching martial arts in his studio. He's sparring with 576 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: this Christian slatery kind of guy who is weird to 577 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: find out is the police detective. And apparently there's a 578 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: relationship where this guy is Luke's student and he keeps 579 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: trying to recruit Luke to become a cop. I think, 580 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: is that how you understood it? Yeah. By the way, 581 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: some of the synopsis you will find of this movie 582 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: online say that Luke is a cop, and that is 583 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: absolutely not correct. Luke is not a cop. He does 584 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: not appreciate, uh, this guy's attempts to recruit him to 585 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: be a cop, and he says something he says, next 586 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: time you try to recruit me to that pig pin 587 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: of yours, I stopped pulling my punches and ice you. Yeah. Yeah, 588 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, not definitely not a cop. Um. But but 589 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he can't train with the cop I 590 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: think one of the key messages of this film is 591 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: that martial arts is a unifier and he can unify um, 592 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, different gangs, different races, different cultures, and and 593 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: also it can it can unify you know, you can 594 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: even throw the police in there and everybody could get 595 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: along if they are practicing martial arts and sweating profusely. 596 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: If they're practicing martial arts with the right state of mind, 597 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: that seems to be Luke's ethos that martial arts is 598 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: not just about fighting, it also involves some kind of 599 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: higher wisdom and and h and an orientation toward peace. Yes. 600 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: Now Luke's student Rodan comes in and again this is 601 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: the guy played by Wilfredo Roldan, and uh, they start 602 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: talking with the cops student here, and we find out 603 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: that Luke and Rodan are about to travel to what 604 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: Luke says is fabulous downtown Hong Kong, and then they're 605 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: going to go for a week of self improvement, which 606 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: we find it later they're going to like a monastery 607 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: of some kind to to to train to the level 608 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: of perfection like they've they've clearly both Luke and Rodana 609 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: are performing at such a high level the only way 610 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: they can improve is to is to go on journeys 611 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: like this. So after the student leaves, we we sort 612 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: of get a picture that Luke and Rodan are hope 613 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: would you I would say that it seems like they 614 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: are adjacent to the criminal underworld, but Luke at the 615 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: same time as a sort of do good or who 616 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: fights for justice. Rodan, meanwhile, not so much. He comes 617 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: off as mean, course selfish, and shortsighted. And so so 618 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: if Luke is somewhere in the lawful good zone, or 619 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: at least neutral good, he's kind of a night of 620 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: the fist. Rodan is somewhere more like chaotic neutral, he 621 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: will get into trouble. He's a rogue. Yes. And we 622 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: also learned from this interaction that, let's see, we learned 623 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: that there are gangs, and they talk about the gangs, 624 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: and we learned that they have disdained for cops and 625 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: for the man. Now they immediately go to Hong Kong 626 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: uh And in the Hong Kong segments, I wondered if 627 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: in the version of the movie you watched, was there 628 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: some dialogue audio that was missing here, Like there are 629 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: parts where they arrive and the master of this place 630 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: speaks to them, speaks to our heroes, but he's got 631 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: his back turned, and I heard nothing. Yeah. There they 632 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: were a couple of scenes in this where it maybe 633 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: it made me wonder if they didn't get the sound 634 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: quality they wanted, or they or they later decided that 635 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: the actual dialogue was unnecessary or perhaps dumb um. There's 636 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: a later scene that I particularly remember, where characters are 637 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: having a prolonged conversation and there's nothing really visually interesting 638 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: going on, but we have music playing over it. So 639 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: it really felt like, well, maybe they didn't get the 640 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: sound they needed on this particular scene, so they're just 641 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna roll some some fabulous disco music on top of it. Yeah, 642 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: no complaints, but Luke has complaints. Luke has complaints about 643 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: Rodan's attitude because at this monastery, it's clear that Luke 644 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: is fully committed to attaining the highest level of martial 645 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: arts mastery. He's he's on the ball, but Rodan, he 646 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: is distracted. His head is elsewhere. His head is all 647 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: clogged up with the lingering frustrations of New York and 648 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: UH and sort of stresses and maybe desires for vengeance. 649 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: And so after he reached is the highest level of 650 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: physical prowess, Luke has to bring his mind to the 651 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: same level of transcendence, which they say is achieved by 652 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: sending him off to meditate in a special place in 653 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: the wilderness while his specially chosen favorite keeps guard over him. 654 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: And he chooses Rodan, and that does not seem like 655 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: a good choice. So while Luke is in a trance 656 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: achieving higher levels of spirituality, Rodan being Rodan, wanders off 657 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: and gets into trouble instead. And so what he does 658 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: is he wanders into a cave and oh no, it's 659 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: a cave of forgotten demons, it's the cave from the 660 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: beginning of the movie. And he finds a secret amulet, 661 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: snatches it, runs off, and then it's pretty much back 662 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: to New York. Yeah, yeah, right back into They fly 663 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: back and they've they've got they've got business to take 664 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: care of, and they're out to do it. But we 665 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: we immediately see the evil that seeps from this ancient 666 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: sarcophagus in the cave now that it's not being contained 667 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: by the power of the amulet, because the removal of 668 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: the amulet has of course released to the monster from 669 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: the cage, and we we get a montage where the 670 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: demon now travels to New York. I was wondering at first, like, wait, 671 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: why does the demon travel to New York? But maybe 672 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: he's he's after the amulet? Is that how you so 673 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: he will he must want the ammulet, like maybe he 674 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: thinks he can destroy the amulet. The film doesn't quite 675 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: explain it, but it's it's what's happening. But the demon 676 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: travels by. So first he's got he does appear to 677 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: have like a bodily form. He's not just like a ghost, 678 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: because you see he's got these hands with claws as 679 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: he's crawling up out of the water. But then he 680 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: possesses somebody and doesn't have a body anymore. He just 681 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: possesses a guy's body, and it's his boat passenger. Yeah, 682 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: just a Chinese businessman who seems to be out doing 683 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: his own thing, and now the demon is inside him. 684 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: And now it's time for the demon to take this 685 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: fleshly vessel, get on another vessel and travel to New 686 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: York as well. Right, So maybe he picked this guy 687 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: because this guy had a ticket to travel to New 688 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: York by boat. Yeah, which is traveling to New yor 689 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: work by both. That's a long trip. Yeah. Oh. But 690 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: also when the man becomes possessed by the demon, the 691 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: way they signal that is it gives him these huge, 692 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: wild white eyes with tiny pupils. It looks kind of 693 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 1: to me like they cut out wedges of ping pong 694 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: balls and and taped them over the actor's eyes. Do 695 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: you think that's what they're doing here. It's either that 696 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: or they had him click keep his eyes closed, and 697 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: they painted his lids white and put the black peoples 698 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: on them. Um, both of these are ridiculous directions to 699 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: go in and it looks somewhat goofy, but also, I 700 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: don't know, somewhat effective within the context of this particular film. Yes, 701 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: and so when they get to when the Demon gets 702 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: to New York, the guy immediately scrambles down into the 703 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: subway tunnels. This is where his home is now and 704 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: it's where he will remain for the rest of the film. Now, 705 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: back with our characters like Luke and Rodan, we see 706 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: we see Rodan getting into more and more trouble. He's 707 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: getting mixed up with double dealings, with drugs, with money 708 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: and gangs. And Rodan ends up with a thirst for 709 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: vengeance after he is robbed by one of the Chinese gangs. Meanwhile, 710 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: they have they talk about it and Luke chides him 711 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: for basically for messing around with this low life stuff. 712 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: He's very clear, Luke is like, this is not what 713 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: martial arts is about. Yeah, and so the movie is 714 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: projecting this sort of Jedi Sith vision of martial arts. 715 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: You can be like a you can be a good 716 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: martial artist. You can be a bad martial artist. And 717 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: if you're bad, that's not real martial arts. It's no 718 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: true scotsman about martial arts. Yeah, Luke Is is practicing 719 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: martial arts almost um, just for itself. You know, He's 720 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: he's practicing it because martial arts is like the path 721 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: to enlighten it, whereas Rodan he sees it as the 722 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: as a means of of kicking butt and advancing in 723 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: whatever criminal pursuit he's he's wandering into petty vengeance, etcetera. 724 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: Right now, in the meantime, we get a demon transformation 725 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: scene that I had high hopes for this. It was okay, 726 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't crazy good. I thought it exceeded expectations. Okay, okay, 727 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: I mean do you work for me. I mean it's 728 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: poorly lit. It's in the subway, and his body just 729 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: goes super gross and starts sort of crumbling and rotting 730 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: and he becomes this this rotten, gooey skeleton man in 731 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: the subways. Yeah, so he bleeds. He first he bleeds 732 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: red blood, then he bleeds green blood. Then he tears 733 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: holes in his own torso, and then the transformation takes 734 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: I wonder if the demon had higher hopes for for 735 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: New York City, you know, like he moved to New 736 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: York in the form of a businessman. He thought he 737 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: was gonna ascend in the world. He was gonna rise up, 738 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna be living in one of those skyscrapers making 739 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: big deals. But it just didn't work out that way, 740 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: and instead here he is rotting in the subway. That's 741 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: he goes down to the tunnels. He's like, all right, 742 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: ready for deals, and then he's looking around. He's like, 743 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: where are the deals. He's trying to make deals with rats, 744 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: He's trying to make deals with discarded you know, coffee cups, 745 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: and it's not working out. So he's like, oh, to 746 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: hell with this and just transforms. Yeah, He's like, I 747 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: guess I'll just do more killings. Now Here, we get 748 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: into a part of the movie where there are some 749 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: street fight scenes where Rodan and his friends confront a 750 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: rival gang in an alley, and uh, this New York 751 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: City street fight does involve swords, which is good choice. Yeah, 752 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: I mean the swords, but also also some just really 753 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: impressive kicks, Like I don't know that I would really 754 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: hold this up as an example of great martial arts choreography. 755 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: But it it looks pretty good. There's some really high kicks, 756 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean rolled In and and Warhawk Tanzania. They can 757 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: they can really do it. Yeah. Now, at some point 758 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: in the middle of the fight the rival gang, they 759 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: see that Rodan has this amulet he's hanging on a 760 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: necklace around his neck, and one of the guys sees 761 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: that and then they're just like oh no, and they bolt. 762 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: And I guess this suggests they are aware of its 763 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: association with the indescribable evil that will turn your blood green. Yeah, 764 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: it seems to be the case. I also wonder if 765 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: if the Demon's arrival in New York, if it has 766 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: somehow had this effect on the surface world here, like 767 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: there's more conflict because the demon is present, you know, 768 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah, getting into a vego of the Carpathian situation again. Yeah, 769 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: maybe it's kind of a Ghostbusters thing going on, Yeah, 770 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: making everybody mean Yeah. But here we reached the part 771 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: of the movie where it's cop time. So remember the 772 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: cop who was training with Luke earlier, Well, it seems 773 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: like he is a He is a grimy, chain smoking detective. 774 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: I think his first lines or some one of the 775 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: first things he says when we meet him again later 776 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: in the movie is something about how he's like drowning 777 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: in alimony payments and and what do you know, He's 778 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: got a new partner. He has a new partner who 779 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: the guy you called a lug heead. But I could 780 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: be wrong, but I think the way you're supposed to 781 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: read him is he is a nerdy, sort of by 782 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: the book academic criminology type who doesn't know anything about 783 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: the real world. Okay, it could it could could be 784 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: the game. Okay, but I got say, Officer Christopher is 785 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,959 Speaker 1: Noah Harley Stone. Uh. But he does end up taking 786 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: it too personal, though I guess not as personal as 787 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: as the ultimate hero of the film, who of course 788 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: is Luke. But so they're called into solve a murder. 789 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: There has been a gruesome killing in the subway tunnels. 790 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: They say, oh, it looks like he got caught in 791 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: a meat grinder, and there's immediately a reporter on the 792 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: case trying to pride details out of Christopher Christopher, and 793 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: Christopher insists that he has a theory about who the 794 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: killer is, which is not true at all, and he 795 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 1: admits to his partner when the reporter leaves. But after 796 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: this we get a sense of the demons m O. 797 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: Because we watch him kill a guy. So there's a 798 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: guy who wanders down into the subway tunnels wearing a 799 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: plaid blazer, and then the demon, in a monotone voice, says, 800 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: helped me. It's dark in here, I'm stuck. And the 801 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: guy in the plaid blazers like, oh, someone needs help, 802 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: and he wanders off into the tunnel help them, and 803 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: then munch. Yeah, so we were learning that our demon 804 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: here isn't just a monster that grabs people or a 805 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: monster that possesses people. He's also a master of illusion. 806 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: Perhaps he's a deceiver. His his illusions at the climax 807 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: of the film are much better than the illusion here. 808 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: This is just a monotone voice saying things in a 809 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: way that sounds totally implausible, saying help me, I am trapped. 810 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: Later in the movie, he can fully transform into other people. Yeah, yeah, well, 811 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: maybe he's still growing in power at this point. You know, 812 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: he's still absorbing the the the energy of New York 813 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: City and transforming it into his own evil. Right. So 814 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: immediately there is a second subway victim. The detectives are 815 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: back on the case. The new partner is is vomiting 816 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: at the side of the carnage on the tracks. But 817 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: this was the part we're talking about with the conspiracy theories. 818 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: The new partner he's got, he's got something to share 819 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: with the reporter, and it's this, basically, all the animals 820 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: that live in the sewers, including cat, rats, dogs, maybe alligators, 821 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: have mutated and come up into the subway tunnels to 822 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: attack and eat people. And this seems to be an 823 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: obsession of this characters of Doctor Criminology here because in 824 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: multiple later scenes in the movie, he's explaining about how 825 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: the sewers have alligators that are twice the size of 826 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: normal alligators with fangs that will chop a man's leg 827 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: right off, and they're they're cats and dogs and rats 828 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: that survived by cannibalism down there, and it's just yet 829 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: fastered into this unnatural subworld environment and that's what's eating people. 830 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: He's like regaling the all the people hanging out at 831 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,959 Speaker 1: the bar where where Luke and Rodan hang out with 832 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: with these theories later in the movie, and they seem 833 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: quite entertained. You know. I will say the middle third 834 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: of the movie does not have enough war Hawk Tanzania 835 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: in it. It's all it's mostly Rodan doing his gang 836 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: fights and then the cops investigating murders. Now, did we 837 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: mention the long scene? It just shows like a day 838 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: in the life and love of war Hock Tanzania's character, Luke. Oh, 839 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: we didn't. But it's very sweet. It's got a good soundtrack, 840 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: and it's just showing him I guess with his his 841 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: wife or I'm not quite sure who she was, his 842 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: wife or his girlfriend. Um, and it just shows them 843 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: like eating together and hanging out and it's it seems great. 844 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: There's one scene I think they're eating scrambled eggs with chopsticks. 845 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: Yes they are. Yeah, that's great. So you can reflect 846 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: on this sequence when you're stuck in the part of 847 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 1: the movie where there's little to no war, right, that's true. 848 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: But eventually we get back on track when Detective Christopher 849 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: Christopher concludes that the murders may have something to do 850 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: with Luke's school uh and when he approaches him about 851 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: the idea and about working together, Luke does not want 852 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: anything to do with it, again, re establishing this theme, 853 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: this dynamic that Luke from the movie's point of view, 854 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 1: Luke is clearly lawful, good, but he also wants nothing 855 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: to do with the police there. You know, they're they're 856 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 1: portrayed as a dirty, corrupt organization. Yeah, yeah, there's there's 857 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: at least one line there where they're the characters are 858 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: concerned that the heat's gonna come down and that the 859 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: police are just gonna come in indiscriminately with shotguns. You know. 860 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 1: So I think Luke has legitimate concerns here. He doesn't 861 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: want any part of that world. Right. So meanwhile, the 862 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: subway Monster mallings and the rod In gang fights continue. 863 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: These two plot lines converge when Rodin becomes outnumbered in 864 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: a gang fight, runs down a subway tunnel to escape, 865 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: and there the demon kills him by shoving his face 866 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: into some kind of electrical panel, which fries him. Yeah. 867 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Rodin has been really thrown down with some 868 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: amazing kicks, uh, you know, taken on multiple guys at once. 869 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: But the Monster just gets the drop on him and 870 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: just fries his face. But it's a great sequence though, 871 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: because you see him like grab his throat, you see 872 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: his face twist into this this strange expression. And then 873 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: later when we see his corpse. We we see like 874 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 1: a like fried Rodin, like they did some sort of 875 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: a crude but effective makeup job. Oh yeah, yeah, they 876 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: really do show him cooked. So when Luke sees this, 877 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: he is enraged and he thinks it was the work 878 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: of the Red Dragon Gang and he goes on a 879 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: martial arts rampage to meet their leader and find out 880 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: what happens. So there's another street fight scene. Uh, this 881 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: fight scene where he goes and he fights some of 882 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: the members of the gang. The opponents are mostly wearing 883 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: jeans and T shirts. But I gotta point out in 884 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: this scene, Warhawk Tanzania is dressed awesomely. He's wearing these 885 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: amazing like shiny gold pants with flared legs. Yeah yeah, 886 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: Now is this the costume that he also wears into 887 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: the final fight. I was actually wondering about that. In 888 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: the final fight when he goes to confront the demon, 889 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: he's not wearing a shirt. He's just wearing gold suspenders. 890 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: And they might they're the same kind of color as 891 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: the ones in the scene, but they might be different. 892 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. At anyway, he's he's always dressed fabulously. Uh. 893 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: He goes into a fight knowing that he needs to 894 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, he needs to hit hard physically but also 895 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: from a fashion standpoint. So after he goes to fight 896 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: the Red Dragons, they explained to him that they did 897 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: not in fact kill Rodan, and they take Luke to 898 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: a wise old man who will explain to the to 899 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: him the truth about the amulet and the demon. And uh, 900 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that. It was hard to tell, but 901 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: this wise old man either has some major makeup on 902 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: his face or it's a person in a mask. Yeah, 903 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: and I was left wondering if this was in fact 904 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: the mysterious Iron Priest Tanzania. Then we encountered. I'm not sure, 905 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: but in any right, Yeah, this is the scene where 906 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: the wise old man explains what's happening to our our 907 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: heroes and sets them on the course towards the defeat 908 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: of evil. So it goes like this. The old man says, 909 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: two thousand years ago, the sorcerer Master Longtime would allow 910 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: some men to be possessed by demons, and these he 911 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: would use to terrorize villages in cities. Master Cheong Dao 912 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: produced the amulet in which he trapped the spirit of 913 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: the demon. And this is the amulet your friend took 914 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: this monster is released into the world. As long as 915 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: the Amulet exists, the demon is deprived of most of 916 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: his power. Even though he is still strong, he is 917 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: unable to tolerate And I think what he says here 918 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: is light. But for the longest time, I thought he 919 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: said flight, and I was I was just baffled, trying 920 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: to understand that that's the boat. Yeah, but I mean 921 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: it made sense because he took the boat and he's 922 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: unable to tolerate flight. And then he goes on to say, 923 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: that is why your subways are a perfect place for 924 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: him to hide. But he's got a mean light, right, 925 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: I think that is what he says. Yeah, I can't 926 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 1: tolerate the tolerate the light. That's why he's in the subways. 927 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: But all this with the Amulet makes sense now. He 928 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: followed the Amulet to the United States because he wants 929 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: to destroy the Annual. Its the only way that he 930 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: can achieve his maximum power. Huh. And when he finishes 931 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: the explanation, Luke reacts, he says, in my head, story 932 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,280 Speaker 1: is fantastic, But in my heart, I know you're speaking 933 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: the truth. So I think we're also to understand that 934 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: Luke has Luke has powerful intuitions, right, he did an 935 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: intuition check on that story, and yeah, he nailed it. 936 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: What kind of check is that? Is that insight he 937 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: rolled the wisdom wisdom modifier? Yeah, yeah, that would be 938 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 1: that would be inside. So we learned from the old 939 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: Man that the demon will stop at nothing to regain 940 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: this amulet. By destroying it, he will be free, forever, 941 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: immortal and indestructible. Whoa uh so, Luke. Luke immediately admits 942 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: that he feels personally responsible for unleashing the demon in 943 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,280 Speaker 1: the world because he took Rodan with him on the trip, 944 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: and Rodan was the one who stole the amulet. And 945 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: so there's only one way to fix it. It's got 946 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: to be a one on one showdown. Luke must defeat 947 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: the demon in single combat, and if he loses, the 948 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 1: demon will eat his soul. Do you think the demon 949 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 1: ate the souls of the other people are just killed them. 950 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: It's a good question. Unless he's a fast eater. I 951 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: think maybe he skipped on eating some of the souls. 952 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm not sure exactly how this 953 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 1: demon consumes the souls. It's say, maybe it's just an 954 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: automatic effect that takes place whenever he murders somebody. So 955 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: Luke has warned that the demon is going to try 956 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: to attack his mind, assuming the forms of those he 957 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 1: loves most and those he fears most. He will use 958 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: every trick in the book, the old Man says, And 959 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: he says that while Luke is fighting, he will uh, 960 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: he will help Luke by he says, I will place 961 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: my mind with yours. Perhaps together we will be stronger 962 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: than one. Yeah, so this is so we're setting up 963 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,720 Speaker 1: the ultimate battle here, good versus evil warhawk Tanzania against 964 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: an ancient demon in New York City subway tunnels. Um, 965 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: it's this is what we've been working for. This is 966 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,479 Speaker 1: what the trailer promised us, right, And so the next 967 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: scene is very funny. This is when we alluded to earlier. 968 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: It's it. On one hand, you've got the foreground action, 969 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: which is Luke is arguing with Officer Christopher that he 970 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: has to go down into the subway and fight the 971 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: demon and uh, and Christopher disagrees. Meanwhile, right next to them, 972 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,439 Speaker 1: I think this is theater Gottli, Right. So he's out 973 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 1: preaching a street sermon about how all your gods are 974 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 1: dead and the rats are shrieking. Yeah, it's pretty great 975 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: because he's I think he's saying something like like Jesus 976 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: Christ is dead, Buddha is dead, and then he ends 977 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 1: with something I think he says, and I'm not feeling 978 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: so great myself. How did that connect to the thing 979 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: about the rats shrieking? I don't know, I don't know. 980 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: It's it's his presence in this film is so weird 981 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 1: because it makes you wonder how it came together, how 982 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 1: they how they got him for this, what they told 983 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: him to do, Like it totally works, improved, it does 984 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,919 Speaker 1: seem improved, and it's it adds to just the overall weird. 985 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: It seems right that there should be somebody in the film, 986 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: uh like, ranting about what's going on below, Like it 987 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: seems it feels appropriately New York, you know, like this 988 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,280 Speaker 1: is this is some some well injected New York weirdness 989 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: into this motion picture that would be a good bumper sticker. 990 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 1: Though all your gods are dead and the rats are shrieking. 991 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: The poetry of this movie. Yeah, so I think while 992 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: Christopher is distracted, Luke defies the police order goes on 993 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: down anyway, because you know, he doesn't obey a man's law. 994 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: And he goes on down carrying the amulet, and the 995 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: confrontation of the Demon happens. And it's kind of like 996 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 1: at the end of the first Mortal Kombat game, you know, 997 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: where the boss is transforming into all the other fighters 998 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: you fought along the way. The Demon takes the but 999 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: also the Demon takes the form of people he loves. 1000 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,760 Speaker 1: So the Demon appears in the form of his wife, 1001 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: in the form of the police, in the form of Rodan, 1002 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: and in the form of a train. Yeah, it is. 1003 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: It is kind of like the ye the Battle of 1004 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: San Sung at the end of the first Mortal Combat. 1005 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: Creatures taken on all these forms and and I, depending 1006 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: on the shot, looks pretty good. I think in some 1007 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,240 Speaker 1: of these these scenes, like the it's your costume. Clearly 1008 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: this was not it's not a Tom Tom Savini joint 1009 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: here or anything, but you get it into an actual 1010 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: New York City subway tunnel, and I feel like you're 1011 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: lighting limitations probably do some of the work for you. Yeah, 1012 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: when we see him in full form, the Demon is 1013 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: a kind of skull beast from the Black Lagoon. He 1014 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 1: has uh sort of a skull outside of his skull, 1015 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: would you say, Yeah, he's kind of like imagine a 1016 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: a skeleton made entirely of cartilage that then was swollen 1017 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: with the corruption and evil. Uh you know this very 1018 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 1: um you know nerdalsome kind of body to him. Yeah. Yeah, uh. 1019 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: Now we'll leave it up to you to guess whether 1020 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: Warholck Tanzani is is victorious and defeating the demon or not. 1021 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: But one thing that happens after this is we after 1022 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: the final fight, we I think, go to the hospital 1023 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 1: and they're in the hospital. There's a scene that I 1024 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: think is meant to convey a sort of like harmony 1025 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 1: has been achieved between or the factions and gangs that 1026 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: have been ang at each other earlier. It is such 1027 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: a sweet, dumb ending because yeah, you have you have 1028 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: the police hanging out, you have Warhawk Tanzania, You've got 1029 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: members of both gangs. Everybody has come together. The supernatural 1030 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,439 Speaker 1: evil has been defeated and and everyone has been able 1031 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 1: to unify. Martial arts has brought people together, and it's 1032 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: going to be a new dawn in New York City. 1033 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: I like it. And then over the end of credits, 1034 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: you see the old man from earlier taking the amulet 1035 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: out to see he goes on a boat. I'm not 1036 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 1: sure what he's gonna do with it. Is the implication 1037 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: that he'll he'll like throw it in the ocean or something. 1038 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: I thought maybe he was taking it back to China. Oh, 1039 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: that would make sense to put it back in the 1040 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: cave where it came from, I guess, and hopefully, but 1041 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: we're hopefully hide it somewhere better. Otherwise another road roadan 1042 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: is going to show up and just wander into the 1043 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: cave and make off with it. That cave was way 1044 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: too close to the monastery. Yeah, and sadly we're not. 1045 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: I was hoping they would tell us at the end, 1046 00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: Warhawk Tanzania will return in Warhawk Tanzania, you know, like 1047 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: like I wanted more the promise of more war Hack 1048 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 1: Tanzania at the end, or that you know, at least 1049 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: that Luke would be back. But uh, sadly it did 1050 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,359 Speaker 1: not come to pass. Don't be sad that it's over. 1051 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 1: Be glad that it happened. Yeah. Yeah, in a way, 1052 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: like the stars aligned perfectly on this um Uh. The 1053 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: the the interview that I read with will Fredo, one 1054 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: of the things that he pointed out, is that he 1055 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: was in some of these films and then he realized 1056 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: that it was just gonna be a real struggle to 1057 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: make any money, to make a living doing this, and 1058 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: that's why he got He became a teacher, you know, 1059 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: both in the New York school system, but then also 1060 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: as a as a martial arts instructor. And so you know, 1061 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: one imagines that that that's probably something like that happened 1062 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: with war Hock Tanzania as well. The man behind the 1063 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: myth uh, you know, moved on to something more mundane 1064 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: and maybe something more satisfying um or again, Warhock Tanzania 1065 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: continued the battle and it's still battling today, fighting all 1066 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: the various demons in the world and their various subworld 1067 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: layers and uh and and protecting the surf this world 1068 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: from absolute chaos. Well, wherever he is, I hope he's 1069 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: doing great. If you're listening, email us. Yeah, I mean, 1070 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, no joking, he was. He's terrific in this 1071 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 1: I I love war Hawk Tanzania. Uh really delivers in 1072 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: this film. Alright, So you're probably wondering where can I 1073 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 1: get some war Hawk Tanzania. Where can I watch Devil's Express. Well, 1074 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: I think the first place I saw this film, like 1075 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: we're first caught my attention that I saw it on 1076 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. I think it's still on Prime. You might 1077 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: have to like rent it through Prime. But the full 1078 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: film is also widely available on YouTube. You can find 1079 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: it on to Be as well. And then also we 1080 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: mentioned the Blu ray from Code Red. Uh, there's a 1081 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: blu ray of the film that's that's available. It's that 1082 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: he uses a two thousand, sixteen two K scan of 1083 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: the original negative. So that's pretty cool. Viewer discretion is advised. Yes, definitely, definitely. 1084 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna go ahead and a close 1085 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 1: close the book on this one. We're gonna go ahead 1086 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: and and restore the Amulet to its subterranean crypt. But 1087 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: if you would like to listen to other episodes of 1088 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: Weird House Cinema, you will find them in the Stuff 1089 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: to Blow your Mind podcast feed. 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