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Speaker 4: Her parents ordered me to sleep on the couch. Now

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Speaker 4: it's their turn.

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Speaker 1: I sentence you to one night on the couch.

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Speaker 4: I mailed twenty five, and my girlfriend he mailed twenty six.

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Speaker 4: I've been together for about four and a half years now.

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Speaker 4: Her and I moved in together just over a year

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Speaker 4: ago as well. We were going to after her degree,

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Speaker 4: but a falling out with her roommate happened, which led

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Speaker 4: to us moving in a year early. Our relationship has

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Speaker 4: been fine. We don't argue, often, support each other's separate interests,

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Speaker 4: and overall living together has been quite an hassel free

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Speaker 4: our such Okay Storytime subreddit. So the only thing that

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Speaker 4: has caused minor arguments between us is that she hates confrontation.

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Speaker 4: For example, she works as a supervisor of part time

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Speaker 4: and where she works, the people being hired for her

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Speaker 4: to train are paid more than her. She hasn't gotten

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Speaker 4: a raise of any kind in over a year, which

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Speaker 4: is illegal. She refuses to bring it up to the

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Speaker 4: manager or anyone at all. This is frustrating, especially since

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Speaker 4: she moved into my place. She hasn't been able to

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Speaker 4: afford to put anything forth. I own the place myself,

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Speaker 4: including paying for our car, insurance, gas, all the bills

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Speaker 4: except for we go fifty to fifties for groceries. It's

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Speaker 4: been tough for how much I get paid because it's

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Speaker 4: not a lot. But it shouldn't be much longer.

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Speaker 1: Oooh, someone's getting a raised. It's get raised.

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Speaker 4: Anyways. Her family and I have been decently close. They've

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Speaker 4: helped me move a couple of years ago, they helped

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Speaker 4: her move than last year, and we visited them for

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Speaker 4: all major holidays and visit decently often since we got together.

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Speaker 4: Her family and I don't agree on one thing, which

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Speaker 4: is my religion. Oh and depending on where you live,

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Speaker 4: that might be the breaking thing as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be a tough one.

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Speaker 4: I am not religious, but they are quite Christian and

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Speaker 4: my girlfriend is nonpracticing unknowingly to them, so whenever I

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Speaker 4: go over, they are overly over the top on everything.

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Speaker 4: My girlfriend's words, not mine, on their religion and constantly

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Speaker 4: try to force me to join them in their practices.

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Speaker 4: Whenever I decline, they say things under their breath like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'll fix you.

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Speaker 1: That's you know.

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Speaker 4: I hate that because it's so condescending, and I have

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Speaker 4: jokingly manner. I say things like I'll pray for you,

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Speaker 4: I'll put Bible verses in your pockets.

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Speaker 5: Different, that's better. Being like i'll pray for you is

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Speaker 5: different than like, oh, we'll fix you.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I know you're saying no right now, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get you. I got you some holy water. Water you

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Speaker 1: drinking holy Water's gotta be so refreshing.

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Speaker 4: But we never visited for long, so it's never been

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Speaker 4: much of an issue, usually two to four hour at

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Speaker 4: a time. They live around six hours away from us

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Speaker 4: in another city. My girlfriend moved to my city around

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Speaker 4: seven years ago before we met. This is where I

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Speaker 4: believe and everyone else that I am being the a

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Speaker 4: hole in.

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Speaker 1: The current issue.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: We stayed at their house for the first time overnight

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Speaker 4: a couple of months ago, and while there for around

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Speaker 4: six hours, it was all going well until it got

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Speaker 4: around night time. They told me I should get the

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Speaker 4: couch ready, and I was confused, as my girlfriend has

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Speaker 4: a room sizeable for the both of us, so I question,

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Speaker 4: I thought i'd sleep with girlfriend's name, and they declined,

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Speaker 4: saying that our relationship wasn't at that level in their eyes. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's that's fair, brother, that's fair. The fan is the

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Speaker 4: fairest thing I've ever heard. You should you knew what,

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Speaker 4: you know, what you're signed up for. Come on, super

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Speaker 4: religious family sleeping over in their house. Do you think

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Speaker 4: they're just gonna be like, yeah, start doing the horizontal

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Speaker 4: mambo over there, and we don't care.

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Speaker 1: We don't care you're not married, do our daughter, We

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Speaker 1: don't care. Not gonna happen. I mean, I reta saw

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Speaker 1: that from my way.

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Speaker 4: Dude, yeah, dude, I mean as soon as the Senate started,

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, yeah, okay, I hope that's not

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Speaker 5: I hope this does not become the focal point of

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Speaker 5: like and that's why I hate her family.

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Speaker 4: Like, come on, brother, I have some thoughts on it,

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Speaker 4: but I am leaning that Opie low Key is the

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Speaker 4: a hole here because it's their house, their rules.

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Speaker 5: Well, I haven't seen what they could be if they're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: like then yeah, really, it depends on their reaction here.

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Speaker 4: I accepted and did not want to argue, as it's

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Speaker 4: their house and their rules. Okay, but I'm quite.

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Speaker 1: Tall six', six all, right show, off.

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Speaker 4: AND i grew a lot of that WHEN i was

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Speaker 4: young and in an incredibly short amount of, time which

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Speaker 4: resulted in a lot of medical back pain and issued

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Speaker 4: for my entire, life making me unable to do SPORTS

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Speaker 4: i used to. Love SO i told THEM i wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be able to sleep on the couch, sadly especially since

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Speaker 4: it was barely bigger than a love. Seat, okay BUT

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Speaker 4: i would be more than, okay purchasing a room at

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Speaker 4: a hotel for myself or my and my. Girlfriend they

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Speaker 4: also live within a couple of minutes from some, hotels

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Speaker 4: So i'd most likely be able to find a room close.

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Speaker 4: By they SAID i was turning it way too big

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Speaker 4: of a deal and to respect their, beliefs and after

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Speaker 4: back and, forth they eventually said they gave up and

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Speaker 4: told me to sleep WHEREVER i. Wanted they were not

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Speaker 4: happy and went to bed. THEMSELVES i was going to

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Speaker 4: purchase a hotel for, myself but my girlfriend got upset

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Speaker 4: at me for attempting to do. So SO i stayed

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Speaker 4: on the, couch which resulted in zero sleep and my

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Speaker 4: back hurting for a couple of, days but at LEAST

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Speaker 4: i was able to watch some good.

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Speaker 1: MOVIES i.

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Speaker 4: Nor they brought it up the next day and we eventually.

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Speaker 4: Left since THEN i felt quite, guilty as my girlfriend,

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Speaker 4: SAID i shouldn't have argued in their. House, okay So

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Speaker 4: i'm on ops side. NOW i thought he was gonna be, like,

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Speaker 4: WELL i just should be able to suit my. Girlfriend

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Speaker 4: but he's ad their, house their. Rules, okay So i'm

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Speaker 4: on a peace side. Now months, later they were wondering

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Speaker 4: if they could visit us and stay with. Us my

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Speaker 4: girlfriend AND i, agreed of, Course but before they, ARRIVED

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Speaker 4: i let them know that our couch wasn't quite big

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Speaker 4: enough for two, people and they were very. CONFUSED i

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Speaker 4: told them they would be sleeping on the couch and

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Speaker 4: they asked. WHY i told THEM i felt they didn't

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Speaker 4: respect our relationship to their, standards AND i followed the

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Speaker 4: rules under their, house so they should follow. Mine oh my, god, no,

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Speaker 4: bro this was your turn to become the bigger person

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Speaker 4: and you're at their.

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Speaker 1: Level.

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Speaker 5: Dude come, on, dude, now you're just being like it's

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Speaker 5: not even like a, gotcha it's like you're just being

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Speaker 5: kind of childish and. CRINGEY i would say that's WHAT

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Speaker 5: i would. CLASSIFY i, agree childish and.

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Speaker 4: Cringe they argued once again that since they are, married

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Speaker 4: their relationship is more respect in than. HOURS i told

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Speaker 4: them that being married doesn't mean that for, me and

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Speaker 4: if they are coming to my house they will follow

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Speaker 4: the rules of such. Too they end up hanging up

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Speaker 4: and texting my girlfriend they would not come over UNTIL

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Speaker 4: i would apologize to them and was in the right.

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Speaker 4: Mind this led to my girlfriend AND i arguing about,

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Speaker 4: this and she agrees that their relationship is more respectable

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Speaker 4: due to being, married AND i told her that marriage

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Speaker 4: isn't what grants me respect for a. Relationship it's the

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Speaker 4: foundation it's built on and how two people treat each

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Speaker 4: other and those around. Them so SHOULD i apologize and

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Speaker 4: allow them to sleep in the spare. Bedroom my girlfriend

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Speaker 4: BELIEVES i am being incredibly, childish, petty and, unreasonable WHICH

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Speaker 4: i definitely AGREE i am being, petty BUT i still

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Speaker 4: don't feel right allowing them to do whatever they want

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Speaker 4: in my house if they don't respect my relationship with their.

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Speaker 1: Daughter.

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Speaker 4: Bro they were happy and didn't say anything about us moving,

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Speaker 4: in but feel weird about us sleeping in the same

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Speaker 4: bed at their, house WHICH i found weird but also

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Speaker 4: never brought.

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Speaker 1: Up that is actually kind of. Weird, wait they were about.

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Speaker 1: It so they move in, together they live.

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Speaker 5: Together the parents didn't care about, that but now at

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Speaker 5: their house they're, like you got to sleep on the.

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Speaker 1: Couch it's like.

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Speaker 5: We already literally live in the same house. Together, yeah

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Speaker 5: so that he's kind of cringe on the parent's, Part

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Speaker 5: but you can't do this back crazy well like, married

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Speaker 5: of course they're more. LEGITIMATE i, mean of COURSE i

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Speaker 5: don't like what he's, doing BUT i also don't like

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Speaker 5: that the parents were weird about.

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Speaker 1: That but then they live together in the whole, hotel

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Speaker 1: like you will, whatever go to do.

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Speaker 5: Whatever they're, like you got to Be it's less about

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Speaker 5: go to a.

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Speaker 1: Hotel you're making this too big a. Deal it's, LIKE

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Speaker 1: i can't the hotel on your.

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Speaker 5: Couch but all this is everyone just kind of needs

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Speaker 5: to like let people be.

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Speaker 1: More, yeah and but clearly we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Boyfrid, ope he's LIKE i, Agree i'm being, petty but

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Speaker 5: it's like you were also being childish and, Unreasonable, like.

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Speaker 4: Come, on, dude call me. One what does your girlfriend

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Speaker 4: bring to the? Relationship whoa? Dang it sounds like she

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Speaker 4: is content to slog away. Underpaid what you take on

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Speaker 4: the burden of most of the. Finances how did.

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Speaker 1: It sound like that you'd joke? Her well because of

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Speaker 4: Story well, earlier, yeah they, Know, okay they briefly mentioned.

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Speaker 4: It that seems inadequate unless she takes on more of

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Speaker 4: a burden in the. Home so if you're putting, more

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Speaker 4: she used to take. More, though regarding sleeping on the

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Speaker 4: couch at their, HOUSE i understand it as their house

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Speaker 4: and many religious people do not allow unmarried couples to

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Speaker 4: stay in the same room. Overnight how is that your

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Speaker 4: girlfriend didn't already know? This she should have discussed it

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Speaker 4: with you in. Advance, well she's non. Confrontational many couples

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Speaker 4: opt for a hotel room close, by so there isn't

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Speaker 4: any conflict in these. Situations you really have a medical

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Speaker 4: condition that made it so painful you couldn't bear, It

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Speaker 4: and if, so then it seems your girlfriend could not

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Speaker 4: care less about your? Comfort why was she mad at

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Speaker 4: you and didn't want to sleep on the couch with

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Speaker 4: the medical. Condition could it be that your girlfriend is

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Speaker 4: hoping this, situation her parents and her agreement with it

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Speaker 4: will convince you to.

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Speaker 1: Propose who the heck is this? Commoner where did you come?

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Speaker 5: From it sounds like somebody who hasn't experienced the real

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Speaker 4: Long opie says she pays half of her, groceries but that's.

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Speaker 4: It everything ELSE i pay. FOR i do the majority

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Speaker 4: of the chores as, well since she's usually studying When

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Speaker 4: i'm off to, work BUT i would say we are

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Speaker 4: OPIE i understand the medical. THING i think got to

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah she's, like why are you talking back to my?

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Speaker 5: PARENTS i don't even do, that and it's, Like I'M

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it was, like, uh, okay really give it to.

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Speaker 4: Girlfriend possibly her parents got married within six months of

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Speaker 4: Glad we got married when we, Did waiting any longer

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wait also an extra comment, too for you're the

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Speaker 3: Your girlfriend is just the worst girlfriend up or she's

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Speaker 1: School she's she's still. Studying, yeah, yeah you, know like

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Speaker 4: College, dude you just gotta go, like don't be, supportive

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Speaker 1: Obstacles hugh.

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Speaker 4: Updates, hey it's been twenty days AND i sort of

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Speaker 4: Advice SO i read the, comments and it helped me

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Speaker 4: realize from an outside perspective THAT i was one hundred

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Speaker 1: A petty a. Hole, okay.

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Speaker 4: GOOD i already saw of knew, that but hearing people

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Speaker 4: EYES i pulled my girlfriend aside the next day after

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Speaker 4: my post and. APOLOGIZED i ADMITTED i was being, childish,

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Speaker 4: i was more acting like a, toddler not sharing. Toys

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Speaker 4: she agreed and laughed at my, analogy then forgave me

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Speaker 4: as long AS i called her, parents which was my next. Plan,

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Speaker 4: ANYWAYS i called her, parents said it roughly the same,

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Speaker 4: they would find another date in the future and reschedule

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Speaker 1: As, Well but the, Comments i'm.

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Speaker 5: SORRY i was just, Like, okay, yeah ye are now

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Speaker 5: like we're going to the reddit. World but the comments

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Speaker 5: my girlfriend's lack of initiative was SOMETHING i needed to

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Speaker 5: seriously talk to her about and stop letting go IF

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Speaker 5: say EVERYTHING i wanted, to et, cetera and a day

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Speaker 4: HER i told her how MUCH i loved her the

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Speaker 4: to our relationship and to start things. Out THEN i brought,

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Speaker 4: up how if we're going to work more in a

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Speaker 4: healthy manner as we get more serious and, conjointed things

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Speaker 4: do need to be more equal between. Us SO i

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Speaker 4: wanted to work on a. COMPROMISE i pay for everything

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Speaker 4: except fifty to fifty for. GROCERIES i do the majority

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Speaker 4: of the cooking and, cleaning et. Cetera as you all.

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Speaker 4: Know she got quite upset at this and was trying

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Speaker 4: i try to reassure, her and the conversation sort of ended.

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Speaker 4: THERE i stuck to my, ground and two days LATER

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Speaker 4: i brought it up once. Again once the dust. Settled

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Speaker 4: asked her also if she would talk to her parents

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Speaker 4: about the whole trying to convert me, thing and, well

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Speaker 4: baby steps not gonna happen. Yet, anyways WHY i still need?

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Speaker 4: Advice so wait before we get into what he needs advice.

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Speaker 4: About did that conversation kind of go? Well it seems

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Speaker 4: like it went half. Well, Yeah, anyways WHY i still need?

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Speaker 4: Advice since we had that last, CONVERSATION i, thought, well

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Speaker 4: things should be, better but she's been. Cold she's been

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Speaker 4: only cooking really quick meals like frozen, stuff mac and,

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Speaker 4: cheese AND i tried talking to her about. It i'd

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Speaker 4: be happy to teach her the Stuff i'd make for,

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Speaker 4: us but she always, says if you don't like, it

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Speaker 4: make a stuff you, do which is. Fair BUT i

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Speaker 4: know she's as good as a cook AS i. AM

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Speaker 4: i tried talking to her if things are stressing her,

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Speaker 4: out and she. DECLINES i tried asking if anything's, wrong

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Speaker 4: and she, declines et, cetera et. Cetera she's been, cold

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Speaker 4: and her spicy sleep life took a nose dye from

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Speaker 4: once every two days to only twice since my last,

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Speaker 4: post and it's been twenty days.

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Speaker 5: Merely really logging all of your. Histories, huh it's break

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Speaker 5: up With it's time break? Up?

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Speaker 1: Wait, WAIT i Think i'm advocating Break, wait there's more

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Speaker 1: talk about no break up with?

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Speaker 4: Her, okay, okay, wait oh my. GOSH i tried feeding

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Speaker 4: into her love. Languages she likes words of affirmation a,

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Speaker 4: lot So i've been complilating her extra and reassuring, her

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Speaker 4: but she seems. Uninterested i've tried asking her IF i

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Speaker 4: Above she says. No what CAN i do to make

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Speaker 4: her feel? Happier she barely even greets me.

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Speaker 1: WHEN i come home. Now but, guys we will greet

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Speaker 1: you after this story.

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Speaker 5: Ends all you gotta do is go where to go To, Spotify,

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Speaker 4: In, okay story time and welcome to the plethora of

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Speaker 1: Up a big old cauldron of.

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Speaker 4: Stories we got an. Update we got a freaking. UPDATE

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Speaker 4: i don't think break. Up they've been together for four

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Speaker 4: and a half. Years it just like this was the

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Speaker 4: first time you've had a hard conversation.

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Speaker 1: Been together for that. Long, yeah, dude here's What i'll.

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Speaker 5: Say the fact that he's got lifelong back problems and

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Speaker 5: that's why he didn't want to sleep on the, couch

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Speaker 5: AND i assume his girlfriend probably knows, that and that

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Speaker 5: she still got mad at him that. Night it's like

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Speaker 5: she has some kind of like hang up with her.

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Speaker 5: Parents she can't confront. Anybody but that starts with probably

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Speaker 5: the parents being domineering in the house as she's growing,

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Speaker 5: up so she cannot talk.

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Speaker 1: Back it's the parent's. Way it is what it.

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Speaker 5: Is to now that op is like created this, confrontation

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Speaker 5: which was really just LIKE i want to BET i

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Speaker 5: can sleep in without being in pain. NOW i don't

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Speaker 5: think she's going to be able to let that, go

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Speaker 5: because it feels like she's programmed to not confront her

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Speaker 5: parents and it has become she won't confront anything or.

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Speaker 4: Anyone, yeah because every time she tried to whoever, did

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Speaker 4: she got shut down, immediately.

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Speaker 5: Right so if she can't get over, THAT i don't

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Speaker 5: see how y'all are going to actually be able to

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Speaker 1: If she won't open up to you about it and

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Speaker 1: she won't talk to you about, it move.

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Speaker 5: On.

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Speaker 4: Update i'm current deciding to do two things as comments

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Speaker 4: have just a spend a week doing everything for myself by,

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Speaker 4: myself watch WHAT i please, make just my own, food

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Speaker 4: and finally take the. Classes i've been waiting for her

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Speaker 4: to agree to pottery and bakery and just do my

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Speaker 4: own thing and see how she treats. It my main

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Speaker 4: fear is that she will just see this as hetty

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Speaker 4: and THAT i am doing the same thing AS i

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Speaker 4: almost did to her parents in my last.

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Speaker 1: POST b try to talk to.

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Speaker 4: Her one more time about all of, this which most

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Speaker 4: likely she won't be receptive to tell her HOW i,

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Speaker 4: feel WHAT i want in the relationship and what needs

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Speaker 4: to change if she wants to. WORK i obviously fear

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Speaker 4: she will break up with me for, that but if she,

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Speaker 4: does it's probably for the.

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Speaker 5: Best we'll got another. Update break, up please please break up.

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Speaker 4: UPDATE i THINK i will choose a and try to

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Speaker 4: give her a slight taste of her medicine and then

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Speaker 4: bring up HOW i. Felt, okay but Maybe, kenny maybe

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Speaker 4: she will understand better once she sees me doing my own.

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Speaker 5: Thing he's doing this out of the wrong play emotionally

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Speaker 5: like he's been, like maybe if she gets a taste

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Speaker 5: FOR o, medicine stop. It you doing stuff just for

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Speaker 5: you for a week is just for. You if you're

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Speaker 5: making it so that she gets a taste for own,

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Speaker 5: medicine now it's for. Her do things you want to

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Speaker 5: do just because you want to do, them not because

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Speaker 5: you want, to like prove some kind of point to

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Speaker 5: your girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Who's treating you like, weirdly you, Know just do.

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Speaker 5: It and then see how she. Reacts, ye, Like i'm

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Speaker 5: just doing me for a, Week and if she can't

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Speaker 5: deal with, that break, up wake. Up my ex partner's

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Speaker 5: girlfriend is claiming my daughter as, Hers SO i confronted, Her,

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Speaker 5: no that's.

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Speaker 1: Mine january, twentieth twenty.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen i'm using a throwaway because mutual, friends you've read.

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Speaker 1: It sorry for the.

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Speaker 5: Lank my twenty seven female ex boyfriend Is james twenty eight.

440
00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 5: Male james AND i dated for three years between spring

441
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,080
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen and the end of winter twenty. Seventeen since my,

442
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 5: daughter for, female is obviously older than, three it's clear that.

443
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Speaker 1: She is not Biologically.

444
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,720
Speaker 5: James's her father was not someone who wanted to be

445
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 5: involved with her and signed away all rights when she was,

446
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,680
Speaker 5: born so he is not in the. Picture by the,

447
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,159
Speaker 5: way this comes from user using a fab, throwaway and

448
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 5: if you want to submit your own, stories go to

449
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 5: the r slash ooka storytime. Subreddit So james AND i

450
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 5: were originally, friends which grew into a relationship when my

451
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 5: daughter was around the age of. One as my daughter

452
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,239
Speaker 5: grew a little bit, older she Saw james as a

453
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 5: de facto, parent a role that he happily stepped up.

454
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 5: To she knows that he is not quote unquote, daddy

455
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 5: but had the strongest bond with him of anyone outside

456
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,879
Speaker 5: of the biological. Family our relationship finished due to a

457
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 5: difference in personal, Timelines james wanted to buy a house.

458
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 5: Together we had been living together for the past, year

459
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 5: but we still each had our own places and moved

460
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 5: to another city for. Work WHILE i was happy WHERE

461
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 5: i was, located it became a self imposed, ultimatum and

462
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 5: While james didn't actually, move it was clear that the

463
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 5: relationship was. Over we stayed, friends and he changed from

464
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Speaker 5: de facto dad to fun Uncle james to my. Daughter,

465
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 5: yeah that's, okay IT'S i feel like that can be

466
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Speaker 5: de facto dad And funkle are kind of. Like that's

467
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 5: a lateral.

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00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 1: MOVE i like. THAT i like That funkel and de

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Speaker 1: Facto dad people are stepping. UP i like.

470
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,199
Speaker 5: It we have both made sure that she was stable

471
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 5: about the, situation something that she clearly seems to. Be

472
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 5: AS i do with other, Friends my daughter AND i

473
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 5: will occasionally Visit, james who sometimes has my daughter without

474
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 5: me there for a couple of hours at a time

475
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 5: IF i have to run errands or something. SIMILAR i

476
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 5: have no reason at all to worry About james with my,

477
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 5: daughter who is always all smiles and five more minutes

478
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 5: WHEN i get. Back about six months, ago Though james

479
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 5: started Dating tracy twenty four. Female she's someone that he

480
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 5: works with WHO i actually first met while we were.

481
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 5: Dating don't worry about. Her their relationship itself is not the. Issue,

482
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 5: however there have been instances that have caused concern in

483
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 5: the past few. Months the first was When james invited

484
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 5: me and my daughter around for a playdate With james's,

485
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 5: nephew who he was. Babysitting tracy was there, too WHICH i. Expected,

486
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 5: however when we arrived In james greeted my daughter with a,

487
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 5: hug she commented on how she looked like her, daddy Meaning. James, okay,

488
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 5: okay maybe, Okay we're gonna keep.

489
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 4: Going we're gonna gather some more, information just trying to

490
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 4: understand the. World she's, Young, okay.

491
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: Maybe she just doesn't.

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00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 5: Know, yeah Both james AND i said that my daughter Wasn't,

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00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 5: james's which is Something james later said had come up

494
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 5: in conversation between them.

495
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: Before she only remarked.

496
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 5: That she meant they had a strong father daughter, bond

497
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 5: WHICH i thought was odd but.

498
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Speaker 1: Ignored there have been a couple of other times.

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Speaker 5: Where i've Seen, tracy either out and about or at planned,

500
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 5: events when she has said that my daughter really likes

501
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 5: spending time With, james which OBVIOUSLY i, know THOUGH i

502
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 5: just took it as awkward ex's. Chat the Reason i'm

503
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 5: posting is about what happened.

504
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: A couple days.

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00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 5: Ago. Again james was babysitting his nephew and had invited

506
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Speaker 5: myself and my daughter to the park for an. Afternoon

507
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 5: we get there and everything is fine until my phone

508
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 5: rings And i'm told that there's an emergency in the

509
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 5: office THAT i have to sort out BECAUSE, X y

510
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 5: AND z aren't picking up their. PHONE i mentioned, this

511
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: And james And tracy offer to look after my daughter

512
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 5: and stay in the park WHILE i rush over to the,

513
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 5: office which is five minutes, away to sort out the.

514
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 5: Problem i'm gone for about half an. Hour, overall the

515
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 5: issue wasn't really an, issue as it never, is and

516
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 5: WHEN i get, back everyone is WHERE i left them

517
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 5: and all.

518
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: Happy what is your, Suspicion, Riley.

519
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna take your.

520
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 4: Daughter they're gonna kidnap your. Kid, no we're gonna be, like,

521
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 4: oh this is fun on playing as. That look at,

522
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 4: me playing as. Mom we're gonna keep her.

523
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 5: FOREVER i highly doubt, this so we start getting ready

524
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 5: to go home When tracy mentions to me that someone she,

525
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 5: knew an amateur, photographer happened to be in the park

526
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 5: taking pictures of the landscape and had taken a couple

527
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 5: of shots of the group my daughter, included and that

528
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 5: she'd send them over because they were apparently really.

529
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: Sweet.

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00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 5: OGRAHAM i was a bit perturbed by someone apparently just

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00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 5: coming over and photographing my, child BUT i thought glass

532
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 5: half full and decided it was only a nice. GESTURE

533
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 5: a couple of hours, Later tracy sends me over the

534
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Speaker 5: solo pictures of my. Daughter she says that she didn't

535
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 5: give her friend permission to use any of the solo

536
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 5: pictures of my daughter on her professional, page but the

537
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 5: ones of the scenery and Of james's nephew were on,

538
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 5: there and IF i wanted to give, consent then my

539
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 5: daughters could be on there. Too they were actually very,

540
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 5: cute AND i looked on the photographer's page to see

541
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 5: the rest of them from the, day and there were

542
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 5: some sweet candids of the nephew and some nice couple

543
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 5: shots Of james And. Tracy but the last picture on

544
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 5: there was a family style portrait of everyone my daughter.

545
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 5: Included the caption said something like The james's surname And tracy's,

546
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: surname know how to have? Fun don't use my daughter

547
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 5: as like a prop in your. Cosplay, Family why do.

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00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 4: We stop using my daughter to gather more clients for

549
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 4: your photography.

550
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 5: Business maybe it was just a misunderstanding that, guess one,

551
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 5: picture one picture that you would generate photographers in. Cahoots,

552
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 5: NOW i don't.

553
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 4: KNOW i, mean if it was a good photo and they're,

554
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 4: like and people were, LIKE i want to fill that,

555
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: MOMENT i want that moment to be embedded on my wall,

556
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 4: forever probably so never.

557
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 5: Know SO i immediately messaged the page asking for the

558
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: picture to be taken, down as it had my daughter

559
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 5: in it without my. Permission they, replied apologizing for the,

560
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 5: issue saying That tracy had said that the little girl Was.

561
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: James's and that he gave his.

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00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 5: CONSENT i then Messaged, james asking him not to give

563
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 5: consent for anything involving my daughter and to Remind tracy

564
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 5: yet again that he is not my daughter's. Father he,

565
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 5: replied saying that he never gave his consent for any

566
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 5: group pictures to be on, there and he resented the.

567
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 5: ACCUSATION i Messaged tracy later, on making it clear THAT

568
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 5: i didn't want my daughter to be used in any

569
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 5: kind of situation where the facts weren't clear and No

570
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 5: james was not her.

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00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: FATHER i did not get a Reply, okay clear there's

572
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: something going on With tracy. HERE i don't know where

573
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: to go from.

574
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 5: HERE i don't want to be that ex girlfriend who

575
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 5: tries to get her ex to sneak around behind his

576
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 5: girlfriend's back for him to see my. Daughter but at

577
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 5: the same, time he's done nothing to Stop tracy from

578
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 5: acting out this charade of my daughter Being james's and therefore,

579
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 5: hers AND i could see why this is a big.

580
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 5: Deal part of me is like with you, know thinking

581
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 5: just within, Myself i'm, like does that even?

582
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: Matter it's LIKE i wouldn't even.

583
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 5: Care it's, LIKE i know that's my, Daughter, yeah BUT

584
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 5: i don't want my daughter getting confused about who's her,

585
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 5: dad who's?

586
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: Daddy who's right?

587
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: Exactly so if she's whenever she's around him and she's

588
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 5: being told That james is her, dad, yeah you know

589
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 5: what happens when now she's, like why doesn't Daddy james

590
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 5: live with, Mommy it's, like well they're. Not that's ah

591
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 5: now you're she's confused and probably it's gonna make her,

592
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 5: upset and so that's WHY i that's, YEAH i did

593
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 5: the math in my own. Head i'm, like why would it?

594
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 5: MATTER i feel like that's why it matters the.

595
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 4: Most he sounds like a conversation and some boundaries need

596
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 4: to be laid.

597
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: Out.

598
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 5: YEAH i think actually this is a perfect moment to

599
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 5: approach a situation with. Curiosity clearly there's something going on With,

600
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 5: Tracy SO i would say talk To, tracy be, like hey,

601
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 5: girl why is it that this keeps? Happening, yeah don't

602
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 5: come at her like ready to your, Perspective just be with,

603
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 5: curiosity be, like why is it that you see her As?

604
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 5: James's IF i just cut them both, out then my

605
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 5: daughter will be, confused THOUGH i know that she'll bounce.

606
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 5: BACK i know That james will be hurt, too BUT

607
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 5: i need to put mine and my daughter's feelings before.

608
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 5: That it's just getting to me that we were able

609
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 5: to be fine and stable through our whole, breakup yet

610
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 5: a completely avoidable situation is what we'll finish this? Off

611
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 5: SHOULD i just move on Without james And tracy in

612
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: my and my daughter's? LIVES AM i simply overreacting and

613
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 5: becoming that quote unquote x regardless and there are some

614
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 5: top comments here we. GO i am not a troll.

615
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 5: Today this seems super simple to. Me don't leave your

616
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 5: kid alone with people who want to pretend she is.

617
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 5: Theirs let her, visit for, sure but when you're, there done.

618
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: Deal if they offer to be alone with her, again

619
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 5: Decline and if they push for a, reason why tell them?

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00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: Why and a deleted.

621
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 5: User, says the confusing part is it's like op he

622
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 5: Wants james to be a fill in, dad but he

623
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 5: can't make any.

624
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: Decisions the whole thing is a bit.

625
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 5: Weird i'd say cut both of them, off as it'll

626
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 5: only get more. CONFUSING i didn't get that vibe that

627
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 5: op he Wants james to be a fill in?

628
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Dad where was? That where did that come?

629
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: From?

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00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 4: Yeah that is a little. Weird, OKAY i don't. Know

631
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 4: umm'll see different. Things, YEAH rtt seven.

632
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 5: Ninety it's only going to get more awkward and uncomfortable

633
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: moving forward as your daughter, ages especially when you get

634
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 5: a new. Partner best bet is to cut them off

635
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: and move. On your daughter is young and will be

636
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 5: fine without them in her.

637
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: Life drawberry.

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00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 5: Blonde hayes, SAYS i Think james choosing to keep someone

639
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 5: Like tracy around does say a lot about his character

640
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 5: and how stable a role model he may be in

641
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: five to ten to fifteen. Years the influence his partners

642
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 5: have On ope's daughter may only increase as she gets

643
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 5: closer to puberty and idolizes females she aspires to be.

644
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Like one might, Think, ah but it's only an hour or.

645
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: Two kids are very, impressionable especially in a single parent.

646
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 5: Household there's an update from three days after the original.

647
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: Post, HONESTLY i mean, DEFINITELY i don't.

648
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: Know everyone's making too quick of a decision. Exactly you

649
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 4: need to fill it out. First there was to make

650
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 4: a decision from. There you just need more context.

651
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 5: Exactly there was nowhere near enough, INFORMATION i feel, like

652
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 5: in that story for most of those comments to assume that.

653
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: Stuff, yeah so we do have an update. Here let's

654
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: get into.

655
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 5: It SO i got a lot more interest in my

656
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 5: post THAN i. Expected while some were either end of the,

657
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 5: spectrum the majority seemed to suggest That james was to

658
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 5: involved in my daughter's. LIFE i had a long think

659
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: about WHY i had pursued this route to, CLARIFY i

660
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 5: did not Force james into this. Position he was happy

661
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 5: to maintain a relationship with my daughter given that he

662
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 5: had been in her life for several. Years the comments

663
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 5: concerning where my daughter would be When james settled down

664
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: and got married and had kids of his own also

665
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 5: made me think this situation was definitely one of, convenience

666
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 5: especially given the fact that our relationship ended Since james

667
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 5: wanted to move away AND i did. NOT i definitely

668
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 5: had no plans to challenge any Of james's life, choices

669
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: nor DID i ever expect him to prioritize myself and

670
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 5: my daughter over anything. Else SOMETHING i seemed not to

671
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 5: convey clearly in my original post was That james really

672
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: is just a friend and has been for the past

673
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 5: year to, me and so because of, THAT i don't

674
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: quote unquote use him for anything that a parent would.

675
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: Do on The he's not a babysitter or daycare. Posts

676
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: he sees.

677
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: Her maybe once every six, weeks which, is for those

678
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: who may be, wondering.

679
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 7: That's not a.

680
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: LOT i think ten times a.

681
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: Year maybe it's awesome to keep in. TOUCH i like.

682
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 5: That, Yeah SO i see nothing wrong here, Yet and

683
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: since our relationship. Ended he's been alone with her three

684
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 5: times at, most so this is not me using our

685
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 5: former relationship as a tool for free. Childcare he asks

686
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 5: to see my, DAUGHTER i don't make him make time for.

687
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 5: Her as a final clarifying, point this has never been

688
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 5: A i want him so you can't have him. Situation

689
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 5: our time together will always be, cherished BUT i do

690
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: not want to pursue a romantic relationship With james, again

691
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: and he doesn't with.

692
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: Me onto the.

693
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: Update after reading the comments to my post and thinking

694
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 5: over the, ISSUES i decided to send Both james And

695
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 5: tracy messages apologizing for my reaction and my heat of

696
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 5: the moment. Accusations the day AFTER i made the, Post

697
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 5: james responded saying that it was water under the bridge

698
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 5: and he would have been annoyed too in the situation.

699
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 5: Okay tracy's response was. Different all she sent was a message,

700
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: SAYING i know he is his daughter's.

701
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Father.

702
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 5: OKAY i assured her That james was not my child's,

703
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 5: dad and even went as far as to apologize IF

704
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 5: i had seemed off with her or if my current

705
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 5: relationship With james was an. Issue she asked if we

706
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 5: could meet up and, talk WHICH i agreed. To we

707
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 5: met for coffee and she said that she had been

708
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: off with, me but not because of my relationship With. James,

709
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 5: okay she said the last year she had found out

710
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: that she was, infertile and While james knew and was,

711
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: supportive seeing him with my little, girl who she knew

712
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 5: he helped raise for several years got to, her which

713
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 5: resulted in comments about him as.

714
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: Daddy h, oh so her being, Infertile she's, like, oh

715
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: this is my way of becoming a. Mother oh, oh keep,

716
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: going keep, going keep, going keep, going keep. GOING i

717
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: need to understand, them my curiosity. People she then said

718
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: that the whole photographer situation was set.

719
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: UP i, know my, GOD i know it Was. Wait

720
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: how did the?

721
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: Mom how did ope go to the?

722
00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Job?

723
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: Wait did she she set that up? Too how does

724
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: she get called?

725
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: Away? Wait keep? Going keep? Going? Okay.

726
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: Okay she had asked her friend who lived near the,

727
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 5: park to come and take some pictures of, Her, james

728
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 5: and the children as soon as it was clear THAT

729
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: i was going to have to, Leave so she literally

730
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 5: did do the exact joke THAT i. Made she Told

731
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 5: james the same thing she told me about the friend

732
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: happening to be in the park and wanting some portfolio,

733
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: shots but told the friend out Of james's, earshot THAT

734
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 5: i was totally fine with the pictures, happening and That

735
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: james was my daughter's, father so she had an on site. Parent,

736
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 5: regardless she was the one who suggested the family portrait.

737
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 5: Shot she told the friend to stick that one, online

738
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: but that the individual ones of my.

739
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Daughter needed to go through me.

740
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 5: First she didn't think THAT i would be interested in

741
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: looking at the other photos and THOUGHT i wouldn't see.

742
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 5: It she said that having a picture of, her her,

743
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 5: partner a little, boy and a little girl was enough

744
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: to quote keep her going since her medical news was

745
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 5: hitting her.

746
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: HARD i can't argue with that at.

747
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 5: All tracy ended by saying that Since james is the

748
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: only father my daughter has ever, known she is there

749
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 5: for the closest thing she will ever have to a

750
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 5: child with. HIM i didn't quite know how to, Respond

751
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 5: but what about? Adoption how would you, Respond?

752
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: Riley this thing called adoption where if you another person

753
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: really want a kid and you can't have a, kid

754
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: can an. Adopt please do not take my. Child this

755
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: is my. Child you can't have my CHILD.

756
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 5: I don't Think tracy's trying to take the, child to be,

757
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 5: clear it WAS i. DON'T i don't think. So but

758
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: the but the role, play but.

759
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: The Emotional the thing that gets me is the emotional

760
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: like in this, way this kid kind of saved her

761
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: in a way or like helps her keep. GOING i

762
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 4: that is tricky to me BECAUSE i don't. KNOW i

763
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: just don't want her to think that this is her

764
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: kid in a, way shape or. Form So i'm gonna be,

765
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: Like i'm gonna need you to take a step, Back.

766
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 5: Tracy, YEAH i THINK i think that is kind of

767
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: the way to go about. IT i Think denise, McConkey

768
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: i think that's how obsession.

769
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Starts.

770
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 5: Though, sure, sure but she's but she's been. Vulnerable people

771
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: who could be grow these. Obsessions they don't ever tell

772
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: you you're not ever having this conversation with them up. Front

773
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 5: is something you learn after they're in a jail. Cell

774
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 5: SO i don't think that she's anywhere near that. Level,

775
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: also but not. Wrong it does need to be addressed

776
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 5: where it's LIKE i get, You i'm sympathetic for your,

777
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 5: situation and of course it's something that she should get

778
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 5: therapy before get professional help to process and deal, with but,

779
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 5: like you can't use my kid as a coping.

780
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: Mechanism that's not.

781
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: Right after reading many comments on my post saying THAT

782
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: i was a jealous harpie and That tracy was an innocent,

783
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: bystander or even calmer versions of that, MINDSET i was

784
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: surprised that my actual suspicions were actually somewhat. Correct this

785
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 5: was not the REASONING i ever thought was behind, this.

786
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: THOUGH i thanked her for her honesty and asked if

787
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 5: she was talking to anyone else about. This she said she,

788
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 5: wasn't but she knew that she should. Be she also

789
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: said That james knew nothing of the extent to which

790
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: she was, feeling other than sometimes she was a little.

791
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 5: Blue we spent a while searching online for local mental

792
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 5: health specialists and left it with her promising to make

793
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: an appointment and to talk To. James which is understandable

794
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 5: That james doesn't, know because that's a really scary thing.

795
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: To tell your.

796
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: Partner, yeah because it's, like, dang is that just like A,

797
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: Okay i'm, infertile i can't have. Kids it's kind of

798
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 5: driving me. Crazy it's, like, Well i'm just gonna leave

799
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 5: you now that's the FEAR i would. Assume after getting,

800
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: HOME i Contacted james to say THAT i believed that

801
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: there needed to be some distance established between him and

802
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 5: my daughter to benefit everyone involved in the. Situation he

803
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 5: said he, agreed and that he would always be there

804
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 5: for my daughter if she needed. HIM i asked my

805
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 5: daughter that evening more out of curiosity as to how

806
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 5: she Views, james and all she said was he was

807
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: the nephew's. Uncle So i'm taking that to mean that

808
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 5: she is by no means dependent on him at the very,

809
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: least and by the, way you can become dependent on

810
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 5: listening to stories just like this in full episodes that

811
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: you can find On spotify And iHeartRadio And apple podcasts

812
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 5: wherever you listen to, podcasts Search okay story, time and

813
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: you can listen until your ears fall off, yep which they.

814
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: Won't it hasn't happened yet that we know, of but

815
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 5: there is a first time for.

816
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: Everything M it's not zero, percent but we should finish the.

817
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 5: STORY i don't know if this is the end of,

818
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 5: this And i'm SURE i will get some criticism for

819
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 5: not cutting Out james, altogether or for even limiting the

820
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 5: existing contact BUT i believe this will benefit, everyone Including,

821
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: tracy in the long. Run thank you again for everyone's,

822
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 5: advice and we have some top comments. Here h Travel

823
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 5: bug eight nine to. EIGHT i think everyone here acted

824
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 5: super maturely and at least a lot of the loose

825
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 5: ends have been tied off because of communication. Exactly good

826
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 5: on you for all being mature adults. Here ope it

827
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: doesn't happen as often as it Should Wanton Wanton walton,

828
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: SAYS i, MEAN i wouldn't say That tracy acted super maturely,

829
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 5: exactly BUT i commend her for eventually communicating what was

830
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 5: going on with.

831
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Her that is mature of.

832
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 5: Her only ONE i could think, of Says tracy's manipulation

833
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 5: of the photography session and having it posted online was.

834
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 5: Terrifying also hyphenated names, Already tracy is. BOLD i do

835
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: hope she can let go of the idea of your

836
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 5: daughter being hers by extension Of, james and that she.

837
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: Gets the help she.

838
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 5: Needs but definitely stay, away Because i'm getting. Creepy walk

839
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 5: into a hospital and kidnap a baby vibes from, her

840
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 5: and isn't that the most appropriate way to end that

841
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 5: story of all? Time that's the beauty of everyone having

842
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 5: their own thoughts and brains is that we can all

843
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 5: see things through our own, lenses and sometimes we don't

844
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 5: see things the same. Way.

845
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: John, here we're gonna get back to this juicy, story

846
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: but a quick three minute break of ads from our.

847
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: Sponsors i've kept my marriage a secret from my mom

848
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: for over a.

849
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 7: Decade, well maybe she's not nice.

850
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: Now when we made the announcement of our family, engagement

851
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: our families were super, excited but especially my.

852
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 7: Mother, okay it's positive so. Far she's excited for your.

853
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: Engagement she claims to be a very family oriented. PERSON

854
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: i was really looking forward to this bonding experience with.

855
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 3: HER i was approaching my late twenties AND i was

856
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: still under the illusion that maybe if we planned my wedding,

857
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: together she would start treating me better in our. Relationship

858
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: maybe she would finally see me as the individual adult

859
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: THAT i.

860
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Am.

861
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 7: Mmmm seems like wishful thinking.

862
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: Now her AND i had a very difficult time in

863
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: my early childhood due to certain romantic partners my mother

864
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: dated and her recklessness with.

865
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: Money sounds like not a winning.

866
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: Combination she also severely bullied me from childhood and the

867
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: teen years all the way up to just a few.

868
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: Years i'm thirty nine years, old.

869
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 7: Bullying why is she bullying her own?

870
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: Child SO i was gasolt into thinking that that was

871
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: just completely. NORMAL i thought that all mothers were supposed

872
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: to be extremely tough on their, daughters even if they

873
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: said the, coldest cruelest.

874
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: Things, ah even if they were.

875
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: Untrue things that were said they're true now because she said,

876
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: so and That i'm a liar by.

877
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: Nature bad children burn in.

878
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: Hell oh my, Goodness, okay we're getting a very clear

879
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 3: taste of work your mom.

880
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 7: The grinch pre pre him having his heart.

881
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: Grown the tension of planning our wedding first began just

882
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: a week after the. Announcement my mom would randomly call

883
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: me on the weekend to discuss things like catering and flower,

884
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: arrangements which you would think would be all nice and.

885
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: Dandy on one of the phone, calls she cussed me

886
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: out because she wanted to serve barbecue And brunswick.

887
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 6: Stew to give you guys an idea of What brunswick stew,

888
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 6: Is it's a, hardy tomato based, stew typically made with

889
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 6: a combination of meats and vegetablescludes, chicken pork or small,

890
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 6: game along with various vegetables like lima, beans, corn, potatoes and.

891
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 7: Okra so it's just kind of like an everything.

892
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: Stew, yeah quite a combat pretty, much and barbiue.

893
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 6: Sauce barbue sauce and ketchup are commonly added for.

894
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: FLAVOR i was already escalating now to. MYSELF i found

895
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: an incredibly odd that she knows THAT i absolutely despise

896
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: buns with. STEW i have to be in the mood for.

897
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: Barbecue it's not something THAT i usually choose to. Eat

898
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: she didn't even try to ask what we. Wanted she

899
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: just called us all selfish for wanting different food choices

900
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: when it all came to planning the. Decor and keep in, mind,

901
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: again this is. HER i believe this is her wedding.

902
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: DINNER i, Yes when it came to planning the, DECOR

903
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: i wanted an enchanted, forest a fairy tale THEME i

904
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: like very. CUTE i had a pinchest board with ideas

905
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: that were all really good to. GO i thought she

906
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: would be proud of me for being. Prepared my husband

907
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: AND i absolutely Loved lord of The, rings the, book the.

908
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 7: Movies yeh, yeah, yeah it's my.

909
00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: Wedding we like.

910
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: That we did not want to do a costplay type.

911
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: Wedding we just wanted to borrow from the aesthetic of the.

912
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: Movie not that there's anything wrong with costplay weddings, weddings mind.

913
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: You she was set on having a country Western mason

914
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: jar burlap barn, wedding.

915
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 7: Which kind of makes sense with The brunswick barbecue kind of.

916
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: Food, yeah it als the mom's.

917
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 7: Theme, yeah for the mom's, theme it makes.

918
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 6: Sense everyone's saying it's very common in like The, South, Georgia.

919
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 6: Virginia this all makes.

920
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 7: Sense, yeah you're gonna have a country weddings And mason

921
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 7: jars and The Brunswick stu is going to be in

922
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 7: The mason.

923
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: Jars, cute but not What op wants.

924
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 7: Exactly.

925
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 3: Mother now this is WHEN i really had to start

926
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: masking my. Anchor i'm hyper aware that her AND i

927
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: have opposite, tastes and there's nothing inherently wrong with. That

928
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: i'm the type of person who really loves reading fantasy,

929
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 3: novels manga and watching animated and horror movies slash. SHOWS

930
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: i am a big time nerd goth and dang proud of.

931
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: It big Time rush tell the, dude shout out to.

932
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: Them it wasn't even that she didn't Like The lord

933
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: of The. Ring she adores those movies and had a

934
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: great time watching it with the whole family when they came.

935
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: Out so it was very confusing as to WHY i

936
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: was having so much. PUSHBACK i was so desperate for

937
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: a connection with her THAT.

938
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: I ignored our.

939
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: Past in my preteen and ten, YEARS i was not

940
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: allowed to express myself in any way because my mother

941
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: was convinced that my interests were goth.

942
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Trash she's just.

943
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 7: Like you want A lord of The ring's, wedding that's.

944
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: Disgusting my mother was convinced that my interests were goth

945
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: trash and it was only for crappy, artists, weirdos, salutes rug,

946
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: users and it would turn me attracted to the same

947
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: gender or gender diverse, people and Then i'd never be

948
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: able to get anywhere in.

949
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 7: Life aren't you actively getting married? To like a?

950
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 3: MAN i would be ashamed and embarrassment to the, family

951
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: jokes on.

952
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: You i'm non, binary so it, worked let's freaking.

953
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Go, yeah oh.

954
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 3: Man so she would not listen to any of our

955
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: suggestions and would purposefully talk over, me cut, me, off

956
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 3: or just flat out scream. Tasteful she would also tell

957
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: me how juvenile and classless our choices. Were she, said

958
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: my lavender and my husband's choice of cream wouldn't mesh well.

959
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: Together HOW i have no eye for this type of event.

960
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: PLANNING i was used to my mom being like. THIS

961
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: i was shrugging things off while boiling. INSIDE i thought

962
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: IF i just kept pushing, gently we would eventually come to.

963
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: Some sort of.

964
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: Understanding AS i originally opened my story with my Cousin gigi's,

965
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: wedding this is where reality came crashing upon.

966
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: Me we had an absolutely magnificent.

967
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 3: Time it was a beautiful, venue the food was, delicious

968
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: and my cousin looked like a. PRINCESS i was ecstatic for.

969
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: Her so this is Cousin gigi's. WEDDING i believe everyone

970
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: was stacking on compliments to my mother because she was

971
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: the matron of honor and Helped gigi plan every little thing.

972
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: Thing apparently they really enjoyed planning it, together WHICH i

973
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: thought was a good. SIGN i had gone to the

974
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: restroom AND i ran into my. Mom we were the

975
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: only people in. There we were washing her hands in the,

976
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: sink AND i smiled really, big turned to her and,

977
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: said you did an amazing job With, gigi AND i

978
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: really look forward to what we could do together with my.

979
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: WEDDING i really look forward to working with you in the.

980
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: Future.

981
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: Now AS i went out of the, BATHROOM i felt

982
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: her grab my upper left arm and she squeezed, hard

983
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: slightly digging in her long acrylic, fingernails and she pulled

984
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: me close to her face and, said you and your

985
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 3: fiance just show the f up and shut.

986
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: Up i'm planning. Everything this is not about, you this

987
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: is not about. Him this is my day to.

988
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 7: See we've just figured out why giving your mom control

989
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 7: of any part of your wedding is a bad, idea

990
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 7: because now she thinks that it's about.

991
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: HER i stood there, alone.

992
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: SHAKING i had to hide and cry alone and fix

993
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: my makeup before returning to the. Reception WHEN i told

994
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: my fiance what had, happened he was seriously taken. Aback

995
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: he has an extremely loving, mother so this chilled him

996
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 3: to the. Bone he was, like how in the heck

997
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: does a mother feel like, that especially when you're such a,

998
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: wonderful loving.

999
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 7: Person Ooh op grew despite their.

1000
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: Mother now it finally dawned on.

1001
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: Me why WOULD i let someone who has had two

1002
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: divorces a broken engagement from the guy that cheated on

1003
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: her last husband With, wow that's a story we got to,

1004
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: read and now a rebound husband give me advice on?

1005
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: Anything that is the question of the. Hour, yes, QUESTION

1006
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: i think's on all of our. Minds we came up

1007
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: with a plan. Together my fiance AND i lied to my,

1008
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 3: mother telling her that we were just too stressed about

1009
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: planning a wedding and that we were just happy how

1010
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: we are and that we're in love and that is good.

1011
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: Enough she didn't get.

1012
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 3: Angry she said that she was happy not to have

1013
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: to spend the money and that she'd respected my decision

1014
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: for years to. Come after this, decision quote, unquote she

1015
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 3: would hold it over my head in front of family

1016
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: that every cousin was getting married except for. Me during

1017
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: all of, THIS i have a very close friend who

1018
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: was about to move To. OREGON i didn't know we

1019
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: would see each other in person. Again we had known

1020
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 3: each other since high school AND i really wanted him

1021
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: to be at our. Wedding he was like the BROTHER

1022
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 3: i never. Had he had also become very good friends

1023
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: with my, fiance so he wanted him there, too so

1024
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: we started planning a backyard wedding so we could get

1025
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: everyone together without the extress of travel and.

1026
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 7: MONEY i think they're planning a secret wedding right.

1027
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: Now that, weekend we met up at our Favorite chinese

1028
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: restaurant with my fiance's family and talked about things that

1029
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: my mother had. Done they agreed to keep it a

1030
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: secret from my family BECAUSE i did not plan on inviting.

1031
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: HER i couldn't invite anyone else in my family because

1032
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: they adore her and think that she's an amazing. Mother

1033
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: they wouldn't want to believe the reality of the. Situation

1034
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: my fiance's family are the greatest People i've ever. Known

1035
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: they sat with, me listened and cried with, me feeling

1036
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 3: my pain and supporting. Everything they happily kept everything off

1037
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: of social media and blocked her on. Everything everyone officially

1038
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: hates my mom too nice.

1039
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: Woo cheersday Hating.

1040
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: BOB i guess there we.

1041
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: Go my longtime friends since high school were eager to support.

1042
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: Me they are my ride or die. GANG i did

1043
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: not break a single sweat about having a non traditional

1044
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 3: wedding Because i'm an Extremely i'm an incredibly non traditional.

1045
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: Person it didn't have a lot of, decorations but the

1046
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: food was. Scrumptious the company was, immaculate though weather was.

1047
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: Perfect The justice of The peace was such a kind

1048
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: woman and conducted the. CEREMONY i felt absolutely ethereal and

1049
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: gorgeous in my black satin wedding dress and purple ombre.

1050
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: Hair ah.

1051
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: Fun we got married the day Before, halloween and it

1052
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: was truly the happiest day of my.

1053
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: Life.

1054
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: Nice after everything was said and, DONE i started keeping

1055
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: my mother at arm's, reach going lower contact a little

1056
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 3: more each, year and going to. Therapy NIC i found

1057
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: out things between her AND i were a heck of

1058
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: a lot worse THAN i thought that can.

1059
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: Happen not.

1060
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: Nice not. Nice she also had hidden my autism diagnosis.

1061
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: From me for over twenty.

1062
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 7: Years like she found it and then was like put that.

1063
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: AWAY i found out from one of my other cousins

1064
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: who overheard a wasted confession at a family.

1065
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: Party. Wow, wait like.

1066
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 7: Your mom's wasted confession was that you have. Autism she's,

1067
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 7: LIKE i didn't know to tell my order or my

1068
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 7: child as.

1069
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: Autism you can listen to full episodes that have. STORIES

1070
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: i KNOW i know just like. This i'm Sorry i've

1071
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: kept it from. You it's On, Apple, spotify wherever you

1072
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: get your. Podcasts you just have to. Search, okay, Storytime,

1073
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: sofia THERE i said. It so last year was our

1074
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: tenth wedding Anniversary wow Slash forward. Epilogue, secretly though, SECRETLY

1075
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: i also went no contact with my mother right After

1076
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: Mother's day of that. Year, dang everything was extra special

1077
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: for a wedding. Anniversary we went to an airbnb that

1078
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: looked exactly like A hobbit. House love that. Buyer it

1079
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 3: was absolutely. Incredible that was one of the happiest.

1080
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: Days of my.

1081
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: Life and in the future we planned to renew our

1082
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: vows and she wouldn't be invited to that. Either thank

1083
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: you for sticking with me through this crazy. Ride thank

1084
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: you for your. Time so AM i the a? Hole?

1085
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: Sophia, TRUTHFULLY i think.

1086
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 7: NO i think you kind of answered the question that

1087
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 7: we were asking of you, know when does an End

1088
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 7: and it seems like you just kind of slowly went

1089
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 7: no contact so you never really had to tell.

1090
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: Her, yeah you at a.

1091
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 7: WAY i refuse to reconnect with my son because he

1092
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 7: was the one who abandoned.

1093
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: Me don't do it.

1094
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 7: Forty five female have a son my previous. MARRIAGE i

1095
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 7: got pregnant way too, young at the age of twenty

1096
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 7: from my high school Sweetheart david forty five. Mail we

1097
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 7: got married at twenty two after graduating. College by the,

1098
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 7: way this comes From Silly struggle twenty five twenty eight

1099
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 7: and if you want to submit your own, stories go

1100
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 7: to the r Slash hookay storytime subured.

1101
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 5: It So.

1102
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 7: David was rich and he didn't want me to, work

1103
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 7: SO i was just a. Housewife my son was the

1104
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 7: apple of my. EYE i gave everything to.

1105
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: Him he was my.

1106
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 7: World we were really close AND i never had a

1107
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 7: doubt in my mind THAT i would never be alone

1108
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 7: as long AS i had. Him that is until ten

1109
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 7: years ago WHEN i found out that my husband was

1110
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 7: cheating on me with a young colleague of. His what was,

1111
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 7: worse my fifteen year old son knew about. It he

1112
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 7: hid the affair from. ME i imagine how BROKEN i.

1113
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 7: WAS i was betrayed by the two PEOPLE i cared

1114
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 7: about most in the. WORLD i asked my son why

1115
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 7: he did, it why he hurt. Me his response was

1116
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 7: that his dad told him not to say. Anything he

1117
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 7: bought him gifts to keep his mouth, shut and having

1118
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 7: a young stepmom made him popular amongst his. FRIENDS i

1119
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 7: was blindsided WHEN i learned that my husband had even

1120
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 7: taken my little boy to meet that. Woman they made

1121
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 7: excuses saying they were on a ski, trip but they

1122
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 7: had taken his mistress with. THEM i felt like a.

1123
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 7: Fool in the divorce, ruling my son chose my ex over.

1124
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 7: ME i was heartbroken once everything was. Finalized he didn't

1125
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 7: even want to. Visit oh, sorry this is really really.

1126
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 7: AWFUL i tried reaching out to him once he turned,

1127
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 7: eighteen but he. Refused at that, POINT i gave up

1128
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 7: and went on with my. LIFE i would still get

1129
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 7: sad over the, years wondering how he was, doing but

1130
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 7: EVENTUALLY i moved on and met. Somebody he was a

1131
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 7: single father of two. Girls we got, married and just

1132
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 7: a few days after our, WEDDING i found OUT i

1133
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 7: was pregnant. Again, babe the, pregnancy it was a. NIGHTMARE

1134
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 7: i wanted to meet my son and tell him he

1135
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 7: was going to be a brother to a baby, girl

1136
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 7: but my labor was difficult AND i nearly passed away

1137
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 7: after giving. Birth oh my. GOODNESS i still wanted to see,

1138
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 7: him BUT i knew he didn't want to see, me

1139
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 7: SO i let go of the. Idea over the, years

1140
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 7: the memories of him just became vague AS i immersed

1141
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 7: myself in my new. FAMILY a week, AGO i received

1142
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 7: a series of messages from him On. Facebook he said

1143
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 7: he missed me a lot and wanted to meet. Up

1144
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 7: it took me by. Surprise after ten years of, silence

1145
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 7: now he wants to see. Me Why i've been going

1146
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 7: over every possible. Reason the worst part IS i don't

1147
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 7: feel excited about. It as a, MOTHER i KNOW i

1148
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 7: should be over the, moon But i'm. Not my parents

1149
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 7: and husband know HOW i, feel and they've been pushing

1150
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 7: me to meet. Him they SAY i need, closure after,

1151
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 7: all he's my, son BUT i don't know IF i

1152
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 7: want to relive the same. Trauma so AM i in the?

1153
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 7: Wrong and there are a couple edits and another. Update i'm.

1154
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 7: Conflicted IF i do meet, HIM i won't invite him

1155
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 7: to my. House maybe a public place. INSTEAD i don't

1156
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 7: know if he wants something from, me BUT i will be.

1157
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 7: Cautious and another. Edit i've decided to meet him, today

1158
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 7: But i'm taking my husband with. Me he won't be

1159
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 7: with us. Directly but he'll be watching from a. Distance

1160
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 7: for those of you calling me a neglectful mother who

1161
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 7: never tried to reach, OUT i hope you never have

1162
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 7: to experience what it's like to be rejected and lied

1163
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 7: to by your own. CHILD i know many of you

1164
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 7: will justify it by saying he was only, fifteen but

1165
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 7: betrayal is still betrayal. REGARDLESS i will be keeping my,

1166
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 7: distance and there is an.

1167
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: Update oh, MAN i am, afraid but also potentially.

1168
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: Excited I'm i'm. Nervous i'm.

1169
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 7: Nervous i'm, nervous BUT i think it could be good

1170
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 7: AND i have. HOPE a lot of you have been

1171
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 7: requesting an. UPDATE i finally met my son after so many.

1172
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 7: Years he was not a boy. Anymore he was a.

1173
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 7: Man you look taller THAN i. Remembered so, ANYWAYS i

1174
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 7: read your. Comments some of you gave me good. SUGGESTIONS

1175
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 7: i prepared myself for any possible. Outcome he could be

1176
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 7: there to meet me and tell me about his, life maybe,

1177
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 7: reconcile or maybe he wanted. Something regardless of what it,

1178
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 7: WAS i kept my guard. UP i asked him to

1179
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 7: meet me in a public. PARK i asked my husband

1180
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 7: to be somewhere nearby so we could see. Me my

1181
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 7: son came five minutes AFTER i. Arrived he was all grown.

1182
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: UP i won't.

1183
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 7: LIE i wanted to cry right, there BUT i held my.

1184
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 7: Composure he said hi to, me AND i. SMILED i

1185
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 7: commented that he had grown up and looked really. Nice

1186
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 7: he just. Nodded we sat down and it was. SILENT

1187
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 7: i was expecting him to say something at, first but

1188
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 7: FINALLY i asked what he was up to these. Days

1189
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 7: he told me he was doing. Fine he just finished

1190
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 7: college and was going to apply for grad. SCHOOL i

1191
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 7: said that was. Great then there was an awkward. Silence.

1192
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 7: Again he broke the silence and, said you must be

1193
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 7: wondering WHY i contacted.

1194
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: You, eyah that's what we want to.

1195
00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 1: Know that's what everyone's.

1196
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 7: One we're. CURIOUS i, Replied for ten years you haven't

1197
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 7: tried to contact, Me but why. NOW i can't help

1198
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 7: but wonder why you're trying to contact me when you

1199
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 7: told me years ago that you didn't want me near

1200
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 7: you BECAUSE i embarrassed. You his face got serious and he,

1201
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 7: SAID i know, that BUT i need something from. YOU

1202
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 7: a lot of you suggested he must be here to

1203
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 7: ask for. Money, well you guys were, right damn. It

1204
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 7: he asked me for. Money be him out with twenty thousand.

1205
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: Dollars oh, no high hope.

1206
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 5: Guy.

1207
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 7: No he said he needed it because he wanted to

1208
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 7: go to law school and his father couldn't afford it

1209
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 7: after losing a lot of money a few years ago

1210
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 7: due to his failed. Business his company went bankrupt and

1211
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 7: he also had three more kids with his mistress turned.

1212
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 7: Wife that's why they didn't have money for him to

1213
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 7: go to grad. School it sank my. Heart after ten,

1214
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 7: YEARS i was finally meeting. HIM i was hoping we

1215
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 7: could reconcile and that he would Understand i've been, through

1216
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 7: or maybe even realized that my husband had been lying to.

1217
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 7: Him but, no he just wanted money from. ME i

1218
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 7: told HIM i couldn't give him, money especially not such

1219
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 7: a huge. Amount he got defensive and kept asking why?

1220
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 7: Not then he, asked is this about dad's? Affair? Jeez

1221
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 7: when will we get over?

1222
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 5: It?

1223
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 7: OH i asked, him why do you hate? Me what

1224
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 7: HAVE i done to deserve your? Hatred HAVE i ever

1225
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 7: raised my? Voice HAVE i ever hit you or said

1226
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 7: no to?

1227
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 5: You?

1228
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 7: Then why you always pushed me? Away WHEN i tried

1229
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 7: to get closer to. You why what DID i do

1230
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 7: to deserve? It he took a deep breath and, said

1231
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 7: you don't. Understand. Mom you really expected me to come with.

1232
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 7: You you would. Nothing at Least dad could afford the

1233
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 7: LIFESTYLE i, wanted and my friends actually Liked carla the.

1234
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 7: Stepmom everything was fine until you discovered his affair and

1235
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 7: ruined my deal With.

1236
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: DAD i get.

1237
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 7: It you didn't hit me or scold, me but you

1238
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 7: weren't able to afford the LIFE i. Wanted this child

1239
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 7: is a. MONSTER i asked him if he really thought

1240
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 7: that his father's affair was the best thing for any of.

1241
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 7: US i sacrificed a lot for, him yet he chose

1242
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 7: someone he had only met when he was. Fourteen he

1243
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 7: said he didn't want to talk about it because it

1244
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 7: was so many years, ago and THAT i should just drop.

1245
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 7: IT i asked why he never tried to visit. Me

1246
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 7: was it his dad stopping? Him was it SOMETHING i.

1247
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 7: DID i had tried to reach out multiple, times but

1248
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 7: he never answered or made an. EFFORT i gave him,

1249
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 7: space thinking he was coping with a divorce. Too he

1250
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 7: yelled THAT i was really. Annoying he said his dad

1251
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 7: hadn't stopped. Him he himself didn't want to meet me

1252
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 7: BECAUSE i lived in a small apartment with only two.

1253
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 7: Bedrooms he hated living in a place like. That he

1254
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 7: ignored me on his eighteenth birthday because the GIFT i

1255
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 7: gave him was cheap and stale compared to what his

1256
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 7: dad and others had given. HIM i. Agree my gift

1257
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 7: was a box of his favorite cookies and an old vintage.

1258
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 7: WATCH i was struggling a lot at the, time SO

1259
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 7: i couldn't afford to buy him expensive. Stuff but does

1260
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 7: that mean he should have ignored me like?

1261
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: THAT i had.

1262
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 7: ENOUGH i told him firmly THAT i would not be

1263
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 7: giving him. MONEY i had spent years wondering where he

1264
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 7: was and how he was. Doing yet he was still so.

1265
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 7: Disrespectful throughout our whole. Conversation he didn't even ask HOW i.

1266
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 7: Was he just went straight to the. MONEY i had

1267
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 7: been hoping we could move. On he had no idea

1268
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 7: how much of a MESS i. Was WHEN i found

1269
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 7: out the MAN i loved so much had betrayed, me

1270
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 7: and then my own son had lied.

1271
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: To me for.

1272
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 7: HIM i thought we had a special. Bond my mind

1273
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 7: had been running through so many possibilities maybe his dad

1274
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 7: had lied to him about, me or maybe he had

1275
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 7: been mad about SOMETHING i. Did but NOW i finally

1276
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 7: had the. TRUTH i didn't want to be HIS. ATM

1277
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 7: i wanted to be his, mother even when he rejected.

1278
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 7: ME i was tired of feeling, rejected, mistreated and taken for.

1279
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 7: Granted he kept getting, defensive saying THAT i couldn't do

1280
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 7: this to, him that was ruining his, life and THAT

1281
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 7: i owed it to. HIM i told him, NO i

1282
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 7: couldn't trust him with such a large sum of.

1283
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: Money you, know it's.

1284
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: Funny she did become AN. Atm, yeah a tired, MOTHER.

1285
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 7: A tired Mother, john a tired mom, wow spinning, bars.

1286
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 7: Staying he snapped and told me to cut the bs

1287
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 7: because he KNEW i had money and could easily give him.

1288
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 7: SOME i told him, no again and. Again at one

1289
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 7: point he stood, up screaming THAT i was ruining his

1290
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 7: life and THAT i owed it to. HIM i called

1291
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 7: my husband and he rushed over to keep my son

1292
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 7: away from. ME i now know THAT i should have

1293
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 7: trusted my. INSTINCTS i cried a lot WHEN i got.

1294
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 7: HOME i lost him. FOREVER i know a lot of

1295
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 7: you will call me a bad. Mother you'll call me self,

1296
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 7: absorbed But i'm. Sorry i've spent a lot of time

1297
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 7: in therapy to get over the pain of losing my

1298
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 7: husband and my. SON i cannot have him in my

1299
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 7: life only to be used as AN. Atm even IF

1300
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 7: i had given him the, money there was no guarantee

1301
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 7: that he wouldn't have ghosted me, afterward or that he

1302
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 7: wouldn't come back later asking for more when the money ran.

1303
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 7: OUT i cannot go through that pain. AGAIN i may

1304
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 7: be able to forgive him for what he said to,

1305
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 7: me BUT i don't THINK i will ever forget. It

1306
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 7: he hated me BECAUSE i had no. MONEY i would

1307
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 7: have been fine with weekly, visits but he never wanted. That,

1308
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 7: ADDITIONALLY i discovered during our conversation that he was the

1309
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 7: first one to find out about my husband's, affair and

1310
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 7: he asked his dad to buy him a new phone

1311
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 7: in exchange for his. Silence oh my, goodness he blackmailed his.

1312
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 7: Dad this kid is. EVIL i. Lost that's ALL i

1313
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 7: have as an. Update i'm sorry if there are any,

1314
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 7: mistakes and, no his birthday was not the only TIME

1315
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 7: i reached. Out like many of you, ASSUMED i tried

1316
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 7: to reach out before that many many times he said

1317
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 7: he didn't want to or had other. EXCUSES i respected

1318
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 7: his decision and didn't bother him too. MUCH i finally

1319
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 7: gave up trying when he was, eighteen BUT i still

1320
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 7: checked his social media for quite a while UNTIL i

1321
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 7: gave up on that. Too but you should never give

1322
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 7: up on, us because you can listen to full episodes

1323
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 7: of stories just like. This just go To, Spotify Apple,

1324
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 7: podcast Or iHeartRadio and search up okey Story. Time as

1325
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 7: much As i'm hurt by his actions that, DAY i

1326
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 7: still hope he learns responsibility and. Matures that being, SAID

1327
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 7: i hardly THINK i have the energy to consider reconciling

1328
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 7: in the, future even if he comes and says. Sorry

1329
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 7: it was already too much for me to be there

1330
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 7: yesterday just to be humiliated. Again and that is the

1331
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 7: end of that. Story ouch ouch, out Big.

1332
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: Auchi, hey it's sam og.

1333
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: Host we're gonna get back to these delectable.

1334
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: Stories but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors

1335
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: to help support the. Show my daughter SAYS i embarrassed

1336
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 3: her at, school but it's not my.

1337
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: Faults, Mom he's so.

1338
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: Embarrassing this is a throwaway account to protect the privacy of.

1339
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: EVERYONE i thirty nine female have a, Daughter, natalie nine,

1340
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: female who is in third. Grade her regular teachers on

1341
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: medical leave indefinitely after having an open.

1342
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: Heart surgery ooh.

1343
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 3: Auchi her class is being covered by a long term

1344
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: sub Named coffee fifties. Female by the, way this comes

1345
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 3: from a long jumping song seventy. Eighteen if you want

1346
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 3: to submit your own, story go to the r slash

1347
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: okay Storytime separate it. So Missus coffee is majorly interested

1348
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: in classic movies and shows an older age appropriate movie

1349
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: On friday afternoon if the class finishes all their work

1350
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: for the, WEEK i am one hundred percent in favor

1351
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: OF i love that great, idea great. Idea natalie is,

1352
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: very very sensitive to animal injuries slash. Death this is

1353
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: a child who cried for half an hour after hearing

1354
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 3: about a. Giraffe a giraffe a, draft a giraffe that passed.

1355
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 2: Away in a zoo states. Away what a little.

1356
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: Sweetheart although she has been diagnosed with anxiety, disorder her

1357
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: sensitivity isn't the result of trauma or a mental.

1358
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: Illness it's just who she. Is On, thursday at about.

1359
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 3: One, Pm Missus coffee sent out a message on the

1360
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: parent notification app congratulating the students on their hard, work

1361
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: announcing that the students will be Watching The Never Ending.

1362
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 7: Story they already, nice see you.

1363
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: Drinking for those, unfamiliar The Never Ending story CONTAINS i,

1364
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 3: MEAN i could have, guessed and especially upsetting scene where

1365
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: a horse passes.

1366
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 7: Away it's so, sad it's so.

1367
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: Sad so a scene like this that would cause most

1368
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: people to choke up could potentially.

1369
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: Result in a full on meltdown For.

1370
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: Natalie natalie knows movie scenes aren't real and that no

1371
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: actual animals are.

1372
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: Hurt this is just her.

1373
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 3: RESPONSE i messaged Missus coffee on the app and briefly

1374
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: told her About natalie's sensitivity and asked her if she

1375
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: could quietly Warn natalie about the scene and allow her

1376
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: to be excused if she.

1377
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: Prefers the scene is about four minus.

1378
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: Law just skip the.

1379
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: Scene oh, no you, can't you.

1380
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 7: Can't that's it's important scene in the.

1381
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: MOVIE i didn't hear anything for about an hour until

1382
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: Missus coffee made another post on the notification app announcing

1383
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: rather curtly that the movie was.

1384
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: Canceled, dang no reason was.

1385
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: GIVEN i figured that the class was acting, up and

1386
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 3: she canceled the movie just as a. Punishment WHEN i

1387
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: picked Up natalie from, school she was furious with. Me

1388
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 3: she said THAT i embarrassed her and got movie day.

1389
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 3: CANCO i asked her what in the world she was talking.

1390
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: About she, said Missus coffee canceled the movie because quote

1391
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: some parents objected to the. Content while glaring At, NATALIE

1392
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: i Asked natalie if she was sure Missus coffee was

1393
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 3: talking about. HER i never objected to the, movie AND

1394
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 3: i was certainly not trying to imply that it shouldn't be.

1395
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: SHOWN i explained to her about the horror scene and

1396
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: THAT i was just trying to keep her from being

1397
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: caught off guard by a sad animal. Scene she accepted this,

1398
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 3: explanation AND i told her THAT i would talk to Missus.

1399
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 3: COFFEE i decided to bypass the notification and talk directly

1400
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 3: to Missus coffee in person the next, morning no digital

1401
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 3: pixels in, between to avoid any. MISUNDERSTANDING i thought maybe

1402
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: she was having a rough day and would sleep on

1403
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 3: it and. RECONSIDER i asked her if she really thought

1404
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 3: THAT i was objecting to the. MOVIE i only wanted

1405
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: my daughter to be prepared for something that could be

1406
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 3: potentially upsetting to. Her Missus coffee then proceeded to tell

1407
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: me THAT i was Babying natalie and that fish. Stuff

1408
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 3: to be, Fair natalie's excessive emotional displays can be, irritating

1409
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: AND i do agree that she will eventually need to

1410
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 3: learn to control. It but having this sprung on her

1411
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 3: in school didn't seem to be the appropriate time or

1412
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 3: place to try to toughen her. Up but as it turned,

1413
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: Out Missus coffee obviously called Out natalie in front of her.

1414
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: Peers that is the part that has me.

1415
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 3: Upset her classmates are upset with her over something that

1416
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 3: never had to be a big deal in the first.

1417
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: PLACE i know THAT i should have talked To natalie

1418
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 3: before going to the, teacher but you know what they

1419
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 3: say about. Hindsight i'm not sure what to do to

1420
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 3: make this. Right aside from this, Incident Missus coffee is

1421
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: a great teacher And natalie enjoys her. Class i'm not

1422
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: ready to get the principle. Involved SHOULD i have just

1423
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 3: kept my mouth shut and hope for the. Best do

1424
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: you guys Think i'm Babying? NATALIE i just left the

1425
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 3: meeting with Missus coffee and don't want to do anything

1426
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: to fuel the.

1427
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: Fire but we have some. Comments ladies and.

1428
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 3: Gentlemen comment to number, one perhaps you could have given

1429
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: your daughter the heads up. Yourself teachers also cold have also,

1430
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: subbed could have subbed another movie in if she was

1431
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: inn comfort truble showing. IT i am a, teacher and

1432
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: that teacher is. Wrong you try to talk to the

1433
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: teacher with horrible. Results the principle needs to know what. Happened,

1434
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: ALSO i have a highly functioning autistic child AND i

1435
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: have done exactly what you. Did give the teacher your

1436
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 3: heads up about the possibility of having a, breakdown not

1437
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: the a. Hole and the reply, SAYS i grew up

1438
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 3: in the time of the Never Ending, story AND i

1439
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: wouldn't show it to my. Kid that horse scene is,

1440
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: horrific like deeply. Traumatized, yeah my kids.

1441
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: Are i'm showing it to MY.

1442
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: Gid it's good they had different standards in the. Nineties

1443
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: more than one kid would have been upset by. That

1444
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 3: so for, STARTERS i am not a helicopter. PARENT i

1445
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: allow my children age appropriate freedom to make their own

1446
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 3: decisions and sort out their own. Problems not only knows

1447
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: not to come with me about a school work issue

1448
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: until she has talked to the teacher. First she's very

1449
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 3: brave where it really. Counts she has a reputation for

1450
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: standing up to other kids being. Bully that's, awesome. Dude

1451
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: that to me is like top to your parenting. Cards

1452
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 3: hush out to, you. Opee put it this. Way no

1453
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: one has picked on her little other and sister more than.

1454
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: Once maybe she's freaking throwing.

1455
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 7: A, Dad it's, like how dare?

1456
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: You her sensitivity to animals is the only thing that

1457
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: sets her off like, this with the draft incident being

1458
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: the most extremes THAT i.

1459
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: Recall it's usually.

1460
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: Seeing passed away animals on the side of the road

1461
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 3: or seeing those animal rescue charities that gets her.

1462
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: Going, natalie take the video.

1463
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 7: The trailers on the, ads it's just like falling.

1464
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: DUDE i mean those are sad one of the sad, Puppies,

1465
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: David what AM i supposed to? Do not cry.

1466
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: Exactly natalie is not really A tv, person but doesn't

1467
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: really like to sit down for full movies at.

1468
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: Home she. Did she did See The Lion, king but

1469
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: she was about three to.

1470
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 3: Four years old and it didn't really register what was

1471
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: happening now About natalie's. Class there are about five kids

1472
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: in that class who like to clown around and. Disrupt

1473
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 3: natalie tells me that they have they can be very

1474
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 3: rude when. Corrected her regular, Teacher missus t h could manage,

1475
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 3: them but they've been a nightmare For Missus. COFFEE i

1476
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 3: talked To natalie about asking her to demonstrate what. Happened

1477
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 3: playing the role Of Missus, coffee she said movie day

1478
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: was canceled because parents objected to the, content while giving,

1479
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: me playing the role Of, natalie a death. Glare natalie then,

1480
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: said one of the troublemakers, said, hey it's not my

1481
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: fault this, time while pointing At, natalie, Laughing eh. Dang

1482
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: Missus coffee did nothing to correct. Them natalie further explained

1483
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 3: That Missus coffee started showing the movies to try to

1484
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 3: get the kids to. Behave it went okay the first,

1485
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: week But Missus coffee canceled and reinstated the movie so

1486
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: often that it became a game to those unruly. Kids,

1487
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: plus the kids were starting to complain That Missus c's

1488
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 3: movie choices were boring and they should just Watch coco

1489
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 3: or The Mario.

1490
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: Bros.

1491
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: Movie from What i'm, piecing. Together Missus coffee was starting

1492
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: to regret the whole movie as a reward, system and

1493
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: my message gave her the out she. Needed, ooh that's not.

1494
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 3: Good you gotta stand on your, choices Missus, coffee brew

1495
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: on your. DECISIONS i Asked natalie if she wanted to

1496
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 3: see the Art tack, scene just so she would know

1497
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: what all the fuss was, about and she. DECLINED i

1498
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 3: believe more out of lack of interest than. ANXIETY i

1499
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: didn't push that. ISSUE i was going to try to

1500
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 3: talk to her again On monday. Morning if it doesn't go,

1501
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 3: well WILL i will get the principle. Involved and we've

1502
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 3: got update number. Two SO i went in this morning

1503
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 3: to talk to Missus coffee, again but there was another sub,

1504
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 3: there Missus, helen Whom natalie knows. Well natalie was happy

1505
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: to see her and gave her a. Hug she informed

1506
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: me that Missus coffee had been reassigned at her own,

1507
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 3: request to the high, school not the same ONE i teach.

1508
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: At thank, Goodness Oh op is also a, teacher, right that's? Right.

1509
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 3: Oh Missus helen also told me that missus t regular

1510
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 3: teacher was tentatively scheduled to come back On march, Seventeenth

1511
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 3: so if all goes, well things will Be things will

1512
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: be back to normal in just two. WEEKS i Believe

1513
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: Missus allen can get the class back under. CONTROL i

1514
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 3: took the advice many of you gave and spoke to

1515
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 3: the assistant, Principal Missus. Fetterbottom Missus fetterbottom seemed shocked and

1516
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 3: told me that she had personally Banned Missus coffee from

1517
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 3: showing The Never Ending story because it hadn't gone through

1518
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 3: the school's approval process for.

1519
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 7: Movies ehoh blamed it On, natalie and it wasn't Even natalie's, fault.

1520
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 3: So someone else must have tipped off the. Admin If

1521
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 3: Missus coffee was salty that she got called out for blatantly.

1522
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: Defying the, rules then that has nothing to do With

1523
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: natalie or with. Me that's true. Facts another true.

1524
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: Fact if you want full, episodes shock full of stories

1525
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 3: just like this for your entertainment, pleasure go To, Spotify

1526
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: apple or your favorite podcast app and Search, okay, Storytime

1527
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: what are you still doing waiting?

1528
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 2: Here what are you? Doing why are you still waiting

1529
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: to search up the? PODCAST i searched it. UP i

1530
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 2: still don't know.

1531
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 3: Why Missus coffee glared At natalie and led the class

1532
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 3: to believe that the movie cancelation was her. FAULT i

1533
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 3: also don't know what the admin is going to do

1534
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: with the INFORMATION i gave. Him but if Missus coffee

1535
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 3: ever subs In natalie's class, again she better treat her

1536
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,839
Speaker 3: very nice and kind.

1537
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,520
Speaker 2: Or there will be serious.

1538
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: Problems that's WHAT i like to.

1539
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: Hear WHEN i picked Up, natalie Missus helen said that

1540
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 3: on her last day of, something she will Take natalie

1541
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 3: to the media center and let her pick from among

1542
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: the approved movies and will have a movie makeup day with.

1543
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: Popcorn, yeah Chrissus helen is.

1544
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 7: On makeup day with. Popcorn oh my, goodness favorite. Teacher we've.

1545
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: IMPROVED i want to go to this.

1546
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: School, yeah you never popcorn at my. School, yeah sign

1547
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: you never had movie day religious.

1548
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 7: Trauma let's.

1549
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: Go let's. Go SO i guess all's.

1550
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: Well that ends? Well, OH i almost.

1551
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 3: Forgot not one Of natalie's classmates said anything to her

1552
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 3: about the movie cancelation the day