1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: We are presented by when Beatt Betty's the team's fourt 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: bet together went Bat. Eric Ellen in the studio, joined 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: by former Jets offensive linement Damian Woody, who is an 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: analyst on ESPN and you might find him on Twitter, 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: spaces anybody talking Jets football. D wood is the man. 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: So I figured, Hey, we gotta bring you on board 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the official podcast. Great to see you. Thanks for having 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: me on the Uh, no doubt about it. So schedule 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: release a couple of weeks ago. You guys are in 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: the un enviable position of going through each team and 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: giving a record out game by game. You said, for 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: the New York Jets eight and nine of four game improvement, 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: you think things are looking up for this team? Oh absolutely, Eric, 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: I I love the vision um the coach that that 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas g MG improvement that they made down the streight. 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Actually it didn't you know, it didn't quantify necessarily and wins, 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: but you just saw how this team just kept fighting 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: and and then to see the front office, front office 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, kind of supplement what was already on the 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: roster with a strong free agent class and in the 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: draft class, and I think you know this has a 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: recipe for a big step forward for the New York 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: Justice year. What's the challenge in terms of instilling a 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: culture on a team that hasn't won in a long time. 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: We go back to your days and we're gonna talk 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: about that coming up. But as far as Robert Salah 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: is trying to bring um a different mentality and you 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: saw it last year. But now for the Jets, they 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: gotta take that next stop and actually win more games. Yeah, 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: So that's a great, really good question. I think, you know, 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Number one, you gotta be a leader of men. You 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: gotta have the ability to have guys buy into your vision. 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: And that's the other aspect of it is you gotta 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: have a vision for what your program, what you want 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: your program to be. And then I think the third 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: thing is just a strong locker room chemistry bringing in 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the right type of guys, guys with high character, high 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: football like you to be able to execute that vision. 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: And I think Robert salt is the is the right 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: guy to do that. I think you saw you know, 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: him laying the foundation last year in the season where 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, obviously there was a lot of first going 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: on first year off of the coordinator, you know rookie 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: head coach. You know, uh, defensive plate called. There hadn't 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: been calling defensive players, you know that long and then 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: obviously a lot of first and second year players. But 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: the foundation was laid last year and that's that's how 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: you start to build a coach in the locker room. Uh. 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Salis talked d what about closing the gap inside the 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: a Ces. The Billings have won the division the last 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: two years, I think in eleven of one mark inside 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: the division over that time span. The Jets looking for 53 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: their first division win under Robert sala I wrote the 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: other day that I think there's gonna be interesting race 55 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: as far as I can place in the FC East. 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: When you look at the Jets in the landscape of 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: the division, how has it changed this offseason? Yeah, I mean, 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: think about what's going on in the in the division. 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: Right you got Miami Dolphins with the new head coach 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniel for he's gonna be a first time 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: play caller. And then look what happened in New England. 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel, the officer coordinator moves on to the Las 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. So you have changed at a couple of 64 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: the divisional rivals, and we all know what with change 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: can come some you know, can come some adversity, um 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, with those things. And the thing I love 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: about the Jets is that their whole system is in 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: place for a second year of a row, something that 69 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't commonplace not that long ago in this organization. 70 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: So you got a team in the Jets where you 71 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: got you know, the same officer system, same defensive system, 72 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: same coach and staff and uh and then you just 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, adding no one players to go along with 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: the nucleus is already there. So that right there in 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: and up itself is is is an envious position, um 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: you know for the just compared to the the other two, 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: the other two teams in the division and the Patriots 78 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: and the Dolphins. What's the importance of O T A 79 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: S from a team perspective? Obviously this is all still voluntary, 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: so within the confines of the CBA, players don't have 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: to come. And Robert Sale has talked about having a 82 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: different kind of pace another all pace is not the 83 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: right word, but different kind of format. This year, not 84 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: many uh team sessions where you're going eleven on eleven 85 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: more seven on seven work installs, individual work, what can 86 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: be uh dawn during the spring, that's very important for 87 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: a team. Well, I always say championships are one in 88 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: the off season. You know a lot of people think 89 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: it's the work that you're doing in the season, but 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: championships are one in the off season. Where they be 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: the weight room, meeting, you know, in the meeting rooms 92 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: O t a many camps. That's where you put in 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: That's where you laid the groundwork to in order to 94 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: win those hall hard fought games during the season. So listen, 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: I know the jets of putting in the work. Um. 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: I think what Robert Salo is basically saying with you 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: know kind of um, I don't know if you know, 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: letting off the you know, letting off the gas per se. 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: But I think the overall focus is making sure his 100 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: guys are get to week one because ultimately, you noticed Eric, 101 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's what's really important, making sure you have 102 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: your roster in tech, all your important pieces in tech 103 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: in order to go out there and attack the opponent. 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: So we saw what happened last year, you know, in 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: the in the off season training camp with you know, 106 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: for instance, called Lawson going down with that ruptured achilles, 107 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: just making sure this roster is is able to get 108 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: through clean and unscathed and ready to go Week one. 109 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: What do you want to see from the Jets of 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: the tackle position? McKay Backton obviously working out on its 111 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: own right now. We'll have to see what happens this week, 112 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: but Robert Sale has been clear about it that there 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: is going to be a battle to the left tackle position. 114 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: George Fann did some good things last season and a 115 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: perfect world on what do you want to see from 116 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: the Jets at the tackle spot? Well, listen, I I 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: can't you know, I don't have my crystal ball as 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: far who's gonna play where where? But what I will 119 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: say is, you know, once you get to you know, 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: many camp and ultimately training camp, you want to kind 121 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: of sort off this battle as soon as possible because 122 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: you want guys to find their positions and then ultimately 123 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: everyone you know, start working on that chemistry and cohesion 124 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: because as you know, Eric, you know the one thing 125 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: about the office line, you gotta get five guys to 126 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: play a players one and you don't want a lot 127 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: of you don't want a prolonged battle at the left 128 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: tackle spot. You want guys to kind of get settled 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: in their spots so they can work on the communication 130 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: between them and the and the person adjacent to them. 131 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: And and ultimately it just happened that chemistry between the 132 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: five guys who are wanna be out there once. The 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: potential of this line though, after adding Lincoln Thomlinson free agency. 134 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: The Jets love Elijah Vera Tucker. He's gonna slide over 135 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: to the right guard position. Connor McGovern did a lot 136 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: of good things at the center position. I think that 137 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: went under the radar last year. He loves this system. 138 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: Uh and Fant was really a fine, uh, highly athletic 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: dude who was used all over the place in Seattle, 140 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: and I know you have to love that consider in 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: your background. Absolutely, I think this offensive line has the 142 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: potential be really really good this year. Um, you know, 143 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: you got a mixture of like high draft fix along 144 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: on along the line. You got a late bloom and 145 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: George Fan who has like a basketball background, didn't get 146 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: utilized all that much during Seattle. So even though he's 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, I believe he's thirty, he doesn't have a 148 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: lot of tread on the time. As far as a 149 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: lot of playing time. Um, and then you know Connor 150 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: McGregor mcgovernor, who who's who fits this system to a team. 151 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: So I think you've got a really good blend of 152 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: guys who you know. I think everyone combined together that 153 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: some of the parts can be really really special. Um, 154 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: if you get those guys settled in and taking a 155 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: bunch of reps and reps and being ready to go, 156 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: what is well Zach Wilson, his next step look like 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: if we saw him take some strides down the stretch, 158 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: particularly protecting the football. But the Jets will always say 159 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: this offense is predicated on running the football, and we 160 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: talked about the strength with the offensive line than they 161 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: had a brief hall to the equation. You got Michael Carter, 162 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: you got Tevin Coleman, you have Ty Johnson. You have 163 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: guys who can uh get after it in the run game. 164 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: What do you think his next step is with more 165 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: pieces around him? Well, I think for him, it's the 166 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: mastery of the playbook, right, you know, just having to 167 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: learning the nuances, the little things that can take his 168 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: game to the next level. I don't think anyone can 169 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: doubt his physical attributes. I think it's arm talented special 170 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: I think he's a very athletic quarterback, but in this game, 171 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, you win the games from 172 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: the neck up. And so for for Zach Wilson, it's 173 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: it's just mastering the nuances of Mike Michael Flo's offense. 174 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Combine that with you know, being a run first offense 175 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: and really getting his run game going. If he can 176 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: do that with the weapons that that that Joe Douglas 177 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and company has surrounded him with, he can be he 178 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: can be primed to really take a huge step forward 179 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: this year. What weapon is gonna make the most impact 180 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: do you think? And I just talked about Hall, but 181 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: obviously the Jets selected Garrett Wilson number ten overall. And 182 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: then you've been very vocal about what you like at 183 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: the tight end position because this is a dramatic overhaul there. 184 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the tight end position. You know, 185 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: it's been like a it's been like a like a 186 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: waste land for like a decade. To be honest with you, 187 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: at the tight end position, we know and we know 188 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: and this this system, this is michaelaforce system. The tight 189 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: ended position. It's very it's very important, it's unique it's 190 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: a it's a you know, it's a system that's very 191 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: friendly the tight end. So the Jets bringing it over 192 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, c j Uzama and and uh and Tyler 193 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: Conkling over and then and then drafting the you know, 194 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: the Rouget kid out of Ohio State. Now you have 195 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: a totally different dynamic at the tight end position because 196 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: now only all these guys you know, very good at 197 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: being a good run blockers, but just adding a dimension 198 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: in the passing game um for a young quarterback. And 199 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: that's just so paramount, you know, for the development of 200 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: young quarterback is having reliable um pieces at the tight 201 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: end position. Do you think, I don't want to say 202 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: blasting and disguise vise, Tyree Hill is a great player, 203 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: but now looking back at it, the Jets obviously made 204 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: a play for him. Do you think this could work 205 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: out in the end as far as a favorable situation 206 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: when you're talking about costs certainty with young players, Yeah, 207 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: I do. I do. And and that's not taking anything 208 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: away from Tyree Gill. He's he's one of the special plays, 209 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: special players that we have in this league because he 210 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: has something you just can't teach with the is an 211 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: abundant of speed. But when you know with that type 212 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: of talent, there's a cost attached to it, and and 213 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: we know that with that that calls that contract. Some 214 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: of the other moves that the Jets, you know, we're 215 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: able to make this off season, probably wouldn't have been 216 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: made had they had traded for Tyree Hille. So listen again, 217 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from Tyreek Hill because he's 218 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: a very special player, but you look at all the 219 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: moves in his totality. As far as the Jets concerned, 220 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about a very well rounded offensive, you know, 221 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: offensive roster that has the ability to really be explosive. 222 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: When's the last time the Jets had the potential to 223 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: be this explosive at the wide receiver position. We saw 224 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Elijah Morraw last year. He really got cooking before he 225 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: had it to enter the reserve. Joe Douglas reminded us 226 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: all that Corey Davis was on pace for a thousand 227 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: yards season and he's a big bodied receiver. Garrett Wilson 228 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: added to the equation his production Ohio State off the charts, 229 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: Braxton burials back in the fold and the Jets, by 230 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: all accounts, he would are really happy as far as 231 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: what Denzel Men's looks like right now. Yeah, Eric, you know, 232 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: you know our friend Richard Men. He actually passed the 233 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: stat on to me, which was just mom boggling. The 234 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: jets between Elijah More, Corey Davis, and Um and Jamison 235 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: Crowder last year they only played sixty snaps together, which 236 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: is basically equivalent of one game. Think about that for 237 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. And Zach Wilson, he basically played an 238 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: equivalent of one game with all his top targets on 239 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: the field. That's crazy. And so you think this year 240 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: with the plant the plan that that you know, Robert 241 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: Salo is going to implement, trying to make sure his 242 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: guys get you know, get to week week one healthy, 243 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: being able to have you know, Elijah More, Corey Davis, 244 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: Braxton Barrios, you know, Garrett Wilson, all of these guys 245 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: healthy and available. 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If you're someone you know has 259 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: a gambling problem, call one seven zero seven one one seven. 260 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: What do you like most about what you're seeing on paper? 261 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: From the defense as far as the numbers concerned the 262 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: defensive line, you mentioned it before, clean bill of health. 263 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: That's huge for the Jets moving forward. If Carl Lawson 264 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: is gonna line up Week one against the Baltimore Ravens 265 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be a big piece. They trade up for 266 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson. Michael Clements added to the mix. They also 267 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: resigned Vinny Curry. H Jacob Martin comes over from Houston. 268 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: So you got a lot of numbers up front, or 269 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: do you look back at the reshuffled secondary what stands 270 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: out to you most about defensively, what the Jets have 271 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: done here this offseason, everything, Eric, everything, because when you'll 272 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: talk about defense and coach Solo would talk about this 273 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: rush and cover go hand in hand, right, So the 274 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: Jets actually addressed both of those. They are super deep 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: at the defensive line position. Obviously, the headliner is getting 276 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: called Lowson back who was primed to have outstanding year 277 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: last year, and then you know, unfortunately had the Achilles injury, 278 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: but him and him coming back in and hopefully being healthy, 279 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: plugging him next to Quentin Williams. You know, I've always 280 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: said this, man, when you're surrounded by good players, guess what, 281 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: It elevates your play. So I think Quintin Williams is 282 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: gonna have a breakout, you know, a breakout year this year. 283 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: And then obviously John you know John Franklin Myers on 284 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: the other side, and Jermaine Johnson and you know Sheldon Rank. 285 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: Because this is a very very deep room. I don't 286 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: even know if all these guys will be able to 287 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: make the roster. It's that it's that much competition the 288 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: d line room. And then when you look in the 289 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: back end the second particularly in the secondary. The thing 290 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: I love about last year when they played all those guys, 291 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: those young guys you know, the Bryce you know, Bryce 292 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: Hall and and the Brandon Echos and and all those 293 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, young defensive backs that now it has created 294 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: depth because you draft Source Gardener with the number four pick, 295 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: You bring in DJ Read you know, through free agents 296 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: via Fregie from Seattle, Jordan Whitehead. So all those young 297 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: guys got a lot of playing time, and now you're 298 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: talking about a uh, you know, a depth chart that 299 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: looks totally different than it than it did in one. 300 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited about this defense. I think, uh, 301 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for those guys give me snaps 302 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: and O t s and mini camp and ultimately training 303 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: camp to continue to bond and mech together. And I 304 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: think we're gonna look at that much improved defense as well. Man. 305 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: I am so happy you mentioned John Franklin Myers because 306 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: we cannot forget his part to this equation. He got 307 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: that resigning, got the new deal early last year. But 308 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: his flexibility and his versatility really can come to light 309 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: this year. Right when you have that kind of numbers 310 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: the defensive end, he can play outside, but then he 311 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: can shift inside and he's a big mismatch against those 312 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: cards in the National Football League. Yeah, I think, you know, 313 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: I think that's where he can really wreck having right, 314 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, you put in the work on first and 315 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: second down, and and and then on third down, the 316 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: money down. Now he kicks inside and that's where the 317 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: real advantage comes and you get and obviously you're getting 318 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: your best rushes on the field. You're talking about it 319 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: potentially a you know, Carl Loss and Quinn Williams, John 320 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: Franklin Myers, and then you know a combination of all 321 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: the other guys, whether there's Jamaine Johnson, you know, Michael Clemens, 322 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, all the Jacob Martin, all these other guys. 323 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: And now you've got guys just humming off there, you know, 324 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: humming getting after the quarterback. So this just defensive line 325 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: has a lot of variety. You can mix and match 326 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, and most importantly, you can 327 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: keep guys fresh because they have so much depth in 328 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: the defensive line. Uh cjm moss c J. Mosley was 329 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: the team MVP last season. If anybody had any doubts 330 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: on what he still got left in the tank, all 331 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: those questions were answered and then something he's still wanted 332 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: the finer inside linebackers in the NFL. Let me ask 333 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: you about Quincy Williams, ol, what is his ceiling? I 334 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: think he can be I think he can be special. 335 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: This is a guy last year who has unbelievable athletic ability. 336 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: We saw it last year, the speed, the the the 337 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, the impact on you know, the the violence 338 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: that he brought as far as his tackling. But he, 339 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, this is a guy that came you know, 340 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: came to the Jets, you know, the latter part of summer, 341 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: early part of the season, so he was still trying 342 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: to figure the system out. He was running more on 343 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: just athletic ability than actual the instincts of the linebacker position. 344 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: So now giving him the whole all season to kind 345 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: of understand the nuance of playing linebacker in the system 346 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: and learning from a guy like C. J. Mosley, now 347 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a smarter linebacker, a guy 348 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: who who is able to use his physical traits and 349 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: physical true tools to the best of his ability. That 350 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: would make him an even better linebacker. So I'm expecting 351 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: huge things from Quincy Williams. How much have you enjoyed 352 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: watching Slid and Joe Dougus go to work. Since Solid 353 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: came on board in January two thousand one, it's really 354 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: been refreshing because, you know, I talk about the one 355 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: thing that I love is a synergy between the two 356 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: that seems like there's a synergy between the front office 357 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: and the coach of staff. And you hear all the time, 358 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Douglass talks about what Coach Solid you 359 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: know it's brought to the table as far as culture, 360 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: and you hear, you know, Coach Solid talk about how 361 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas involves him and a lot of you know, 362 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: kind of like the player profile, player descriptions as far 363 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: as the type of players that they want to bring 364 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: in this into this program. So there's a tremendous synergy 365 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: between the two and what usually happens is that permeates 366 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: to everything else within the Jets organization. So I think 367 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: this is the first time in quite some time where 368 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: you're seeing everyone kind of um, you know, linked together 369 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: and thinking of thinking the same way within the organization. 370 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: Did you take anything from this schedule? I know you 371 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: want through the game by game on spoun and said eight, 372 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: eight and nine, And you think they can get on 373 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: a second half run. But particularly I wanted to ask 374 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: you about the a f C North run with those 375 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: first four games and then the a f C East spread. 376 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: The would you have three home games before the bye 377 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: against your division rivals, three road games after the bye 378 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: against a FC Eastern teams. Yeah, you know that. I 379 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: would say the schedule makers didn't do the Jets any favorites. 380 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: But listen, if you aspire to be one though, you know, 381 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: to take that that giant leap. That's what it is. 382 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: The schedule is what it is. But you know, the 383 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: one thing I would talk about as far as the schedule, 384 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: it's conturn. As a formal player, you know, all we 385 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: usually concern ourselves with is number one. Who we played 386 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: Week one? Okay? And when when it's a buy? And 387 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: I think the boy falls at the perfect time for 388 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: the Jets, But you can't when you always you know, 389 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: as players were taught to break everything down in quarters. 390 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: We know the first quarter is gonna be the whole 391 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: a f C North, the Old Garland, the NFC North, 392 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: and you just got a quarterback quarter. Try to win 393 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: the quarter. If you can put together that, that's how 394 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: you ultimately get yourself in what I call the tournament 395 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: in the postseason. Uh. And that's a great transition because 396 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: I want to go back to you and you're playing 397 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: career with the Jets. In one second, you played with 398 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: the young quarterback in Mark Sanchez. Do you see similarities 399 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: between him and Wilson or just totally different guys. I mean, 400 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: obviously it's a totally different team, totally different situation. But 401 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: I always tell people that Sanchez walked into one of 402 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: the most unique opportunities ever considering he was an early 403 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: first round pick, great offensive line, great running game, great 404 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: running game, historically good defense. Yeah, that was a unique 405 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: situation because you know, usually when you pick it in 406 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: the top five, you're bad franchise. But that wasn't a 407 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: case when Mark Sanchez was. When we trade up to 408 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: number five, we were a good football team and we 409 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: had a lot of veteran players, a lot of really 410 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: good pieces in place. So Mark was in the kind 411 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: of unusual situation where you know, he didn't have to 412 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: be kind of the savior. You know, we we were 413 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: you know obviously that you know, when he first came on, 414 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: it was about running the ball and it was about 415 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: playing really good defense. And letting and letting. Mark Sanchez 416 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: kinda you know, learn learn on the fly. And I 417 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: think you know the difference with him and Zach is 418 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: Zach is in a situation where the whole team is young, right, 419 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: the whole team is young. So you got a you know, 420 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: a young head coach. You know who's in the second year. 421 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, young played caller on both sides of the 422 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: ball um. A lot of the critical foundational pieces are young. 423 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: So this whole operation is growing together. And what you 424 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: want is you want these guys to hopefully these guys 425 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: mature together, mature to really good pace, and that's how 426 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: you have something special brewing for years to come. If 427 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: if that happens. Okay, so, oh, Damian Wood. He signs 428 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: a free agency deal with the New York Jets. What 429 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: attracted you to the Jets? And can you talk about 430 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: your start because there are some interesting names on that staff, 431 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: including current Giants head coach Brian Dayball. Yeah. Yeah, it 432 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: was um, you know, when I was a free agent, 433 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, I was really eyeing the Jets because obviously 434 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: my relationship with Eric Mangini, who which dated back to 435 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: my New England days. He was a coach on the staff, 436 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: and we was always really you know, really good, uh, 437 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: really friendly and good good friends. And and I was 438 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: you know during that time, I wanted I was craving 439 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: for that that flavor again, that structure that that program, 440 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: and uh, Eric Mangini brought you know, he brought that 441 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: to the New York Jets. And obviously you know Brian 442 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: Bables on that staff as well, So there was a 443 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: lot of familiarity and and I love the pieces that 444 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: the Jets had already had on the on the on 445 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: the ross, a lot of really good young pieces. They 446 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: just needed to augment it with a lot of uh, 447 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: with some veteran layers. Obviously myself, Alfannica came on that year, 448 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: Tony Richardson, Calvin Pace. There were a lot of guys 449 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: that the Jets brought in and then um ultimately that 450 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, over the over the next couple of years 451 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: that led to back to back a f C Championship runs. Um, 452 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, during that time, during that time period, what 453 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: would have made for a different ending. In two thousand 454 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: and eighteen, you guys were eight and three, you went 455 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: to Tennessee. He was unbeaten, the uppounded that Manto thirteen 456 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Russian for nearly two hundred yards on the ground. What 457 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: would have made for a different ending. I know it 458 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: all turned out good because you made a transition and 459 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: made it look seamless, but I just wanted to ask 460 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: you about the end of that oh eight campaign. Yeah, yeah, Unfortunately, 461 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: you know, Brett got hurt. I think he had the 462 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: the l It was an elbow shower, one of those 463 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: injuries that that really derailed us because we were high. 464 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: I feel like we were the best team to lead, 465 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, um, we would absolutely have 466 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: the The week prior we went up to New England 467 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: beating New England and then we came back against an 468 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: undefeated Tennessee Titans team on the road and just really 469 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: smacked them around. So we felt like we were in 470 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: a great position. Unfortunately, breath fall sustain the injury and 471 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: kind of you know tail spend that you know tells 472 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: after that. But that was a really good team, which 473 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: you know, actually it set us up pretty well, you know, 474 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: because we go out, we get Rex, and Rex comes 475 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: in and he brings his own culture in with the 476 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: veteran presidents that we had, We draft Mark san Jenz 477 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: and we went on a nice little, nice little run 478 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: those skills, you know, for myself those next couple of years. 479 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: So it was a really special time. 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Winna 488 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: an official sports book and gave me partner up the 489 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: New York Jets office up to the change in terms 490 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: of conditions at wimp dot com. Must be twenty one, 491 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: the older president of New Jersey. If you're someone you 492 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: know has a gambling problem, call one seven zero seven 493 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: one one seven. What's your favorite memory from oh nine 494 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: you guys lose And I remember this vividly to Atlanta 495 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: at the Meadowlands in week fifteen and Rex comes out, 496 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: talks to the media says, well, that's it, that's it, 497 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: We're done. We're not gonna be in the playoffs anymore, 498 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: and then of course you go to Indianapolis, they sit 499 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: there starters, you win that game, then the winning they're 500 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: in against the Sinstanti Bengals and you trash them, and 501 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: then you get on that running the playoffs, beating the Bengals, 502 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: going to San Diego and taking care of business against 503 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Before that season as an Indianapolis what stands 504 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: out above all when you're talking about oh nine, Yeah, 505 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: there was a lot of roller coasters. Obviously with the 506 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: young quarterback who was still finding way I think against 507 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: the man like to the n Falcons. That was that 508 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: was a tough, tough loss in that game against the 509 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. But you know, the one game that that 510 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: that it just really stood out to me was and 511 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: in the divisional round, we played the then San Diego Charges, 512 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: and I believe that that team was really good. I 513 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: think they were like fourteen and two. They were they 514 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: were like the maybe the best baby, I think, the 515 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: best team in the league. And we went out there. 516 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: Nobody gave us a chance to win that game against them, 517 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: and we went out there and just played our brand 518 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: of football. We smacked them around, ran ran the ball 519 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: all day on their throw defense, play, played lights out, 520 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know the one play that stood out 521 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: obviously was Seawan Green when he just busted line and 522 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: ran that. You know, it was like a like a 523 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: fifty some of y'all touchdown run and uh you know 524 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: that kind of you know, that kind of sealed the deal, 525 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, in that game. So that 526 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: game was was really special and really stood out for me. 527 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: I special. It wasn't fourth and the foot a minute 528 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: nine loft you're holding on to that fourteen lead and 529 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: Rex says stay on the field and you guys get 530 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: two yards with t J. Well, that's that's that's typical Rex, right. 531 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: Rex was like, you know, the one thing, one beautiful 532 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: thing about Rex was he really consulted and believed in 533 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 1: the players. And his whole thing is, Okay, if we're 534 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: gonna ride with you, you gotta make it work. And 535 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: so we're on the sideline and Rex like, what what 536 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: do y'all want to do? And without get you know, 537 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: sending it, you know, explicatives, we were like, man, let's 538 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: we're going forward. We we didn't come this far too, 539 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: you know to not go forward, and uh we just 540 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: lined up and and ran our usual short yards play 541 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: and we got more than enough to convert the first 542 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: down and ultimately ice the game. So it was just 543 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: one of many special moments during that time. And we 544 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: had a really we had an elite officer line, elead backs, 545 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: and uh, it was really fun playing that Brandon ball. 546 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: Do you think we're ever gonna see a team like 547 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: that again? Who played that way? Oh? Man, you know, 548 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: sometimes I think things happen in cycles, but man, it's 549 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: just hard to envision things going back that way because 550 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: of the rules and how it is, how easy it 551 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: is to you know, the league wants you to be 552 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: a passing lead because passing you get a chance to 553 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: score a lot of points. So I don't know if 554 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna ever go back to the ground and pound 555 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: and teams that uh, you know, predominantly run the football 556 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: like that, but man, it was it was fun from 557 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: from my office alignment perspective, but I enjoyed watching these 558 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks going out there and throve on the football field. Yeah, okay, 559 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: so ten, what is your perspective there as far as 560 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: that run, because dude, you were such a big part 561 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: of that team and you go down with the Achilles 562 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, So can you take me through your mind 563 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: during that time? Yeah, man, I you know, I was 564 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: really excited about that team. I thought I thought that 565 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: team was a super Bowl team as well. And uh 566 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: that wild Card game, boy, it was. It was a 567 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: great game going up going up against Peyton Manning again 568 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: in uh in the and uh I think it was 569 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: I forget the building that was in but man, that 570 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: place was rocking, and and to be able to have 571 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: that chance to to get a win against great Peyton 572 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: Manning and ultimately, you know, for me, unfortunately I end 573 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: up tearing my chillies on the last drive of the 574 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: game and a two minute drill, but ultimately we got 575 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: the team winning. It was a big win and we 576 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: knew that it was. It meant so much to everybody, 577 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, whether you're talking about Jason Taylor who was 578 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: part of the who was on their roster that time, 579 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, Ladinian Thomason, and then obviously Rex Ryan, who 580 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: was you know, Peyton Manning always been a thorn in 581 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: his side and be able to get that win against 582 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was what was something special for a lot 583 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: of people. I think that would have remember is one 584 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: of the most magical runs in NFL history if the 585 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: Jet said completed that deal in Pittsburgh. But for you, 586 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: those two games Indianapolis and then Pittsburgh, how did you 587 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: take them in? You were so durable throughout your career. 588 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: And then obviously at Kellings during a situation where you 589 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: were such a big part of that offensive line and 590 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Wayne Hunter comes in, uh and takes your spot. Obviously. Yeah. Yeah, 591 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: Like I said, man, injuries are part of the game. 592 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, you know, that was my twelfth year International 593 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: Football League and things like that happened. But it didn't 594 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: stop me from being the biggest cheerleader for uh, for 595 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: for my team. And then they wouldn't you know. Obviously, 596 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: the Jets went on it beat beat the New England 597 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: Pages in Foxborough. That's one of the one of the 598 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: biggest games in Jets history, going out there and get 599 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: exacted that revenge in that game up there in Foxborough. 600 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: And and ultimately, I think running out of time against 601 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers in the n f C Championship Championship 602 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: game because boyd, man, you know, just talking to the guys, 603 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: if guys say the same thing, man, we had like 604 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: another three minutes we would have won that game because 605 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: the ballmentium was clearly on our side at the end 606 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: of the game. So, you know, things happen, injuries happen. Know, 607 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't regret any of that. You know, that's just 608 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: part of the game. But boy, I was I was 609 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: really fortunate, blessed to be a part of part of 610 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: the organization, in particularly part of that Uh that that 611 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: locker room. How much do you enjoy being a part 612 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks? You know they go to different teams 613 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: every year, are in house documentary group for a production 614 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: group is putting together an unbelievable series that's gonna rival 615 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: anything out there. Uh New Heights this year, Jets Flight, Um, 616 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: New Heights. It's gonna be incredible. It's gonna be released 617 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: June seventeeth here at the end of minicamp. But for you, 618 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: from your perspective, what was it like in the reaction 619 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: that you guys got being part of Hard Knocks? It 620 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: was great, man, because we had you know, Hard Knocks 621 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: was Taylor made for that team. We had so many characters. 622 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Obviously started with Rex Running and Wreck. Everyone knows Rex 623 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: run is a character and of it himself, but we 624 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: had so many guys on the team. You know that 625 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: was just you know, really funny man and um. And 626 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: the one thing that Rix talked about was like, look, 627 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: guys embraced us, enjoyed like play into it, and so 628 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: that the whole crew at Hard you know, with the 629 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: NFL film, did a tremendous job of kind of blending 630 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: in behind the scenes and and just making the whole 631 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: experience fun. And the whole team really embraced it. And uh, 632 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, just talking to people over the years, everyone 633 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: always mentioned that Jet team as the as at the 634 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: best Hard Knocks season that they've ever saw. So we 635 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: had a great time with it, and I think the 636 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: fans did as well. You grew up in Virginia, you 637 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: went to Boston College, your first round pick, you won 638 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: two championships with the Patriots, you decided to settle here 639 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: in Jersey. Can you talk about what you like about 640 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: this spot and then also your connection with Jets fans 641 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: because we were talking about it at the beginning of 642 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: this podcast at you instantly engage folks in such a 643 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: positive way. Yeah, yeah, it's um. You know, when I 644 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: when I decided to retire after the Achilles injury, you know, 645 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: my my older kids were teenagers, and I didn't want 646 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: to move them anymore. We really love New Jersey. We 647 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: love the people here, um you know, so we just 648 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: decided to plant the flag here. And we've been here, 649 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, we've been here ever since. And you know, 650 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: just my affinity for the organization. I love the people 651 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: in the organization, um, you know. And and because I 652 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: had such a great experience, um playing with the organization, 653 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: I've just you know, this is a love there that 654 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: that I have for the for the organization, and I 655 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: want them to do well. And I always tell people 656 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: there anything that I can do to help, you know, 657 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: help further that along, I'm willing to do that. So. UM, 658 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: I love the direction that this team is headed. I 659 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: think they got the right leadership in place. I love 660 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: coach Solid what he's brought to the table. And then 661 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: some a lot of these young guys that are there, 662 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, my hope is they think that 663 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: they take this next step forward um this year and 664 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: really uh you know it really let the league know that, hey, 665 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Jets are back. Indeed, what he says, 666 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: don't be surprised if the Jets are eight and nine 667 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: playing a meaning football games in December. What do you 668 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: think that atmosphere is gonna be like at MetLife Stadium 669 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: twenty one years after nine eleven, when the Jets do, 670 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: in fact host the Baltimore Ravens for their opener, a 671 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: game that you pick the Jets to win. Yeah, it's 672 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: gonna be special. It's gonna be special area because you 673 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: know obviously the day and nine eleven and what it 674 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: means to New Yorkers just to try state area in general. 675 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: I think that the energy from the fan base, from 676 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: everything that's happened with this organization this offseason and combining 677 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: that with a home opener and going up against the 678 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, a very good opponent in the Baltimore Ravens, 679 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: it has a recipe to be electric. So I expect 680 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: this crowd to be electric, to be far it up. 681 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm going to be in the house and 682 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch that game set on September eleven. 683 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: We can't wait to see you there. We appreciate you 684 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: taking your time after you're a Poloti ride to catch 685 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: up with us, and we gotta do this again soon. Absolutely, man, 686 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on. Eric