WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Takes Two to Mingo 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:11.399 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:19.479 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:21.080 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:21.640 Yes? 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:23.480 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:24.320 Absolutely? 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:28.640 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.800 It's time for the Break. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:33.080 On Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.960 We were on Break with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.720 Nick Harris and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.040 It is Tuesday, November fifth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.520 episode number twenty sixty two. Welcome to the latest edition 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.440 of The Break with Life in the SWBC Mori Studios 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.840 Here at the Star war presented by LG LG as 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.000 the world's number one OLT TV brand for eleven years 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.440 in counting. See why at LGT dot com forward slash 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.639 ol at evo. It is a busy morning here at 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.039 the Star. Lots of things going on. Jerry Jones had 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.520 his his time with the guys over at the Fan 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:15.400 this morning, Sean RJ and Bobby and drop several different 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.200 things that that are I guess buzzing at this point 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.840 news items. We'll start first with his comment that that 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.800 they are definitely going to be or he said they're 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.400 likely to be making a move at wide receiver. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:30.960 There are reports out there right now. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:35.480 That the Cowboys are making a trade for Jonathan Mingo. Obviously, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.440 there is nothing that's been reported that is not a 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.360 full and it's not something that is already that has 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.120 been substantiated yet by the organization publicly, So we don't 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.600 know if that's actually fact, but we do know Jerry 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.480 said something's happened in wide receiver position. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.840 That's what's being reported. Let's start first. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.400 I do want to talk a little bit from the 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.800 standpoint of just the idea of what this could mean 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.640 for the Cowboys if this is to happen. From the 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.600 stamp point of the player himself, what do you guys know. 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.160 I know you guys have looked at this player in 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.120 the draft, and Jerry mentioned the player that they were 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.720 looking at was a player that was a draftable, a 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.440 player that they liked in the draft. What did you 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:14.760 see from this player particularly? 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.960 Yeah, this is a guy that's physical six foot two, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.440 two hundred and twenty pounds, and that's what Dallas needs 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.040 in the receiving core right now. They need a little 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.400 bit more physicality. This is an easily moved receiving corps 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.320 in the sense that we've talked about it on the 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.040 show many times that these guys are getting pushed off 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.040 the line by this more physical secondary player. Over the 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.040 course of the last few weeks, Mingo is a little 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.840 bit tougher to push around. Granted, he does have athleticism 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.360 to back that up, so it's not necessarily that, you know, 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.400 he's just kind of this big load who will kind 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.240 of come at you. He's got some athleticism. Two four 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.320 four six thirty nine and a half inch vertical from 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.200 the combine, ten foot nine inch broad jump from the 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.440 combine as well a couple of years ago, but on 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.960 that same token, the production is not really matched when 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.600 it's come with Jonathan Mingo. He has played nine career 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.799 seasons of football going all the way back to high school. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.160 He has more than nine hundred yards and only one 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.840 of those seasons and it was his senior year in 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.639 high school in Mississippi and Brandon, Mississippi. So he goes 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.960 to Ole, miss kind of struggles to find exactly what 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.320 his role is until his junior year. Junior year had 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.200 a good year. Senior year had a great year, and 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.919 he was used in some situations where they were able 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.720 to get him the ball in space. They kind of 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.200 used him in a Debo esque type role at Ole Miss, 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:25.160 but it hasn't really translated to Carolina. Inconsistent quarterback play 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.320 could be a product of that. But also a stat 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.120 that was pointed out by Bobby Belt this morning was 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.480 of one and twenty six eligible pass catchers with seventy 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.960 five or more targets over the past two seasons, Jonathanmingo 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.160 is dead last one and twenty sixth in success rate. 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.800 So that is not great. And that factors in running 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.920 back stuff factors and tight ends receivers obviously. So this 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:51.960 is a guy who even when he has had his opportunities, 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.360 he hasn't really done much with them. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.640 Yeah, he's a guy when you watch you could definitely 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.800 tell the quarterback play has really hurt him and a 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.960 lot of his They like to move him around and 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.040 so he'll play in the backfield, he'll play in the slot, 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.000 he'll play on the outside. Everything for him, when you 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:15.280 watch his tape is underneath, it's at zero yards or 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.640 nine yards everything. I mean, you just you watch everything, 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.000 you know, and and it was it's a fight to 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.160 get him the ball, it really really was. I mean, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.280 he'd run slants balls way behind him. You know, they 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.280 try and throw crossing routes to him. He did have 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.480 a drop on one of the crossing routes that I saw, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.120 you know, just taking a peek at him. You know, 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.440 he fights the ball a little bit. I don't think 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.840 his hands or and I mean fight it is when 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.919 you're wide open and it hitching the chest and it 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.000 goes down. There's concentration things. When you're by yourself, you 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.640 need to make the play. There was time when the 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.480 ball went away from him or he the route went 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.120 away and he kind of double caught the ball a 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.960 little bit. But you know, he's he's one of those guys. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.960 I mean, he could get to he could get this 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.359 Nick was talking about. He could get to get the 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.719 speed very quickly, you know, when you get him up 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.200 the field and stuff like that. He runs really really 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.159 well for a big man. He's really good after the catch. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.880 When when he was able to make those catches, you 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.840 see a physical element to his game. I mean he is, uh, 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.240 he's got a little bit of that try and run 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.520 over you a bit to him, and so that part 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.080 of it will help. He kind of bullies you. And 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.960 I like that about him. But I just feel like 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.360 though that to me, that you know, you're you're kind 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.360 of betting, you're betting on the com here. You're betting 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.839 on Hey that you know, his old mistape is better 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.360 than where his tape was at at Carolina, and he 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.560 you know, probably had better better play, better quarterback play 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.839 as far as getting him the ball and get it 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.600 to him consistently. My I know, personally I had him 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.240 as my seventy first best player in that twenty twenty 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.640 three draft, had some other receivers ahead of him. That's 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.320 a you know, right around the third round grade on 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.320 the player. He was taken in the second round. So 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.440 you know it's there's like I say, I I think 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.800 there's you're betting on putting him with a better quarterback 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:08.280 with his athletic ability and then his size, that maybe 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.080 you could take advantage that because Carolina really didn't. When 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.680 you watch him play for Carolina, you could see a 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.520 level of frustration. You could see the ball not even 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.760 getting close, you know. So and and that's not just 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.240 for Bryce Young, you know, that's for Andy Dalton too. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.760 There there were there were games where you're just like going, gosh, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.039 get him the ball and but like I say, a 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.040 lot of it is underneath stuff, not a bunch of 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.719 what was downfield. The one downfield throw they did have, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:37.440 thinking's the Broncos was an intercepted play, so uh, you 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.200 know it's I think that probably a breath of fresh 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.320 air for for the particular player if in fact the 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:44.440 trade goes through. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.479 Did he have any of that downfield ability in his 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.600 college tape or is this just something he's seen. You're 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:50.520 seeing the pros. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.839 I you know, I don't remember him making a bunch 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.840 of big time plays down the field. You know, Old 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.520 Miss has done a really good job with these big receivers. Yeah, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.440 you know, and Old Miss will throw the ball down 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.160 the field. And I went back through my notes and 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.600 I was thinking, I was just kind of looking at seeing, Okay, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.560 is there any vertical game the fact that he's big 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.480 as he is, and you know, and there were in 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.720 some of the notes at Old Miss, I had where's 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.200 ability to adjust? He doesn't look like the same receiver, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.840 And maybe that's what Carolina does to you. You know, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.200 he didn't look like the same receiver. He looked like 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.400 a big guy. The physical part of it you saw 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.880 from Old Miss, but everything else about it didn't look 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.880 like the type of guy that that you saw playing 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:33.720 there a Mississippi. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.520 Yeah, you see some big playability. I'm just kind of 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.800 going back from stat box. I mean a game against 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.480 Vanderbilty had nine receptions for two hundred and forty seven. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:42.320 Yeah, there you go. 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.600 A game against Central Arkansas he had three receptions for 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.640 one hundred and three yards. So there were some big 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.640 plays sprinkled in throughout a senior season. But like I 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.679 mentioned earlier, he didn't really find his stride really until 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.240 late in his junior year and then definitely as he 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.440 got into a senior year. One quick, not O'Brien. He's 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.000 going to walk into a situation on Sunday where Cooper 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.480 Rush is starting quarterback. It's probably the best starting quarterback 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:02.480 he's had in his entire career. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.080 Yeah and yeah, I mean as far as as far 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.720 as being accurate, maybe giving him a chance the thing. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.960 And I just was curious because I go back when 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.800 I look at the tape, I wonder, Okay, give me 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.920 some other metrics things that can kind of go with 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:19.120 this guy's face. Press coverage twenty four times and he's 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.240 gotten five targets out of the press coverage and he 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.960 hadn't have a reception yet out of the press coverage everything. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.400 Which you would think for a big receiver, you would 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.080 think that he gets off the ball. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.160 He gets off the ball. I mean you could see 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.839 him get off the ball. But I was just kind 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.760 of curious, like, Okay, why don't they throw the ball 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.000 to him more? And I was just is it something? Is? 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.960 What is what is this guy's kryptonite right now? You know, 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.160 because he only has twelve catches and twenty four target 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.400 I mean, he's so yeah, it's it's been a problem, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.120 but I found it hard to play. I'm like, have 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.480 I seen any catches with press coverage here? And I hadn't, 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.800 But you know, five targets out of twenty four routes 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.160 that were that were in press coverage, and so you know, 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.240 that's kind of where it is right now with him. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.120 So when I saw the news, initially, I was like, 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.240 what the heck, why are we doing this? Doesn't make 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.720 any sense to me. But then you take a moment 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.160 and start looking at it from a different perspective, and 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:20.200 even if it's something that doesn't necessarily change the course 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.400 of this season, at you look at it for the future. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.080 We talked and I brought it up yesterday, how you 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.800 are going to be limited in what you do in 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.240 free agency and you're gonna have once again have to 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.200 rely a lot on the draft. This is a player 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.920 that Jerry mentioned, like you mentioned as well, that they 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.000 liked before that they were looking at. So maybe it's 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.240 a perfect opportunity for them to where they they're still 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.160 getting young talent, but someone that already has been in 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.079 the league for a little bit has had some experience, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:50.880 not the kind of experience. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.800 You're looking for because once again success. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.240 Or the success because of the quarterback or those situations 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.280 that he was in, but still someone that has been 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.360 present and around this environ man, and that kind of 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.120 maybe puts them ahead of time and ahead of the 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.839 timeline of what you're looking for when you go back 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.199 to the draft and look for a wide receiver. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:10.720 Yeah. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.720 The the thing that folks are going to have trouble 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:18.160 with is if reported compensation. Yeah, you know that's going 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.199 to be the thing, because you're going to look, you're 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.560 going to look at other deals, and you're going to 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.800 compare other deals and and people do this. They did 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.520 it with They did it with Maury Cooper. They they said, Okay, 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.360 this is what you gave and this is what you 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.040 do and this is what you get, you know, and 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.240 this is and they're going to look at that, and 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.320 they're going to look at, well, what about other receivers, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.080 and well did what did what did Carolina get for 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.720 their number one receiver? It's a pick swap, you know, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:47.920 was it a fourth round? It was a pick swap. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:52.840 So you're taking their third fourth receiver maybe, you know, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.599 and you're you're you're putting a fourth round. You know, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.400 you're giving a fourth round and you know, with if 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.000 things are you know, that's to start a day three. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.640 If Dallas continues on this path of not being able 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.840 to win football games, that fourth round pick now turns 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.200 into a late three or an early start of day 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.559 day three, and you know, and that's where you can 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.480 do some you can do some damage. And Dallas has 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.920 done a damn good job of drafted in the fourth round, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.360 you know, but they could put some compensatory picks together 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.199 and probably get that fourth round back. But to start 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.120 day three is you know that that could be a 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.120 very significant pick for you and people will evaluate that 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.880 this He'll come in here and let's see if Wow, 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.200 hit this guy in ten games or how many games 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.560 we have left, nine games, whatever, it's hey, this is 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.960 where you know he man, he was productive, it was 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.559 worth it. Or it's like, well, here we go again. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.600 You know you needed that fourth round pick to do something. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.520 That's that's what's being reported again, nothing confirmed. We'll see 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.280 you know what what happens down the road. 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.600 From a draft perspective, I mean that we're trending towards 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.160 this team picking in the top ten of every round. 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.520 And when you're starting Day three with a top ten 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.240 pick in round four and now you don't have that 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.520 pick anymore, you're giving up something that you definitely could 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:08.920 have used. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.120 Here would be my question for you guys, going back 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.920 to last year or two years ago when he came 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.640 out in the draft, where did you play place it? 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:22.000 If third rounds right, so then the question becomes giving 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.240 up a fourth round Let's assume that they give up 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.640 before they gave up a fourth round pick, would you 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.640 be willing to give up a fourth round pick for 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.720 a guy that was graded as a third round player. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.800 I see what they're doing for the factor where they 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.480 probably had him on the board and they probably had 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.320 him higher than what Nick and I had him on 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:37.720 the board. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:38.959 He's a party visit here. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.080 Yeah. The thing that would give me a little bit 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.200 of concern, And I think the quarterback play really hurt him. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.320 I really do watching him. Nick's right, I think he's 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.760 going to have better quarterback play here. The thing that 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.320 bothers me though about it was that we've seen other 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.280 wide receivers go in, you know, in trades, you know, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:00.040 and I'm just. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.200 I'm just yeah, and that's all right, Yeah, I'm looking. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.720 You know, I'm if, I'm a if, I'm a general manager, 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.079 and I'm you know, and I and I'm going out 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.280 in Baltimore. I'm I'm you know, I'm the I get 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.560 you know, Johnson, They're they're number one. I pick swapped 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.520 that thing. I didn't really give up a pick. I 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.480 just flopped, you know. I flopped in the rounds is 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.120 all I did. You know, I didn't have to give 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.400 up me. I just moved from one area to the other. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.560 That's that's what I did. And yeah, and then you 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.400 look at what Kansas City and then Hopkins last night, 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.440 and you know what he and that was a fifth 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:36.520 round pick. There's been established NFL receivers that have gone 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:42.640 for far less than what you reported you gave up 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.160 for this particular player. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:45.680 And that's going to be the part where you'll have 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.800 to judge that as you see how much it brings 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.880 to the team, then you'll you'll have to make that 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:50.520 that judgment. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.680 Let's move on. Let's talk a little bit about Dak Prescott. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.800 Jerry made mentioned this morning on the show also that 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.040 he's likely headed to I R, which is which is 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.280 news because that means that it's guaranteed four weeks that 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.800 he would not be on the roster. What do you 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.480 think this means for this offense. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.920 It's time to get creative and figure out what you 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.760 have at the quarterback position. You have two guys in 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.480 Cooper Rush and Trey Lance that are on expiring deals, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.240 and you would assume to bring back at least one 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.680 of those for a cheap deal next season and for 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.640 the future to back up Dak Prescott as he goes 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.400 into this third contract. Figure out which of these two 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.640 guys can better that fit that mold. I think you 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.240 can expect to see Cooper Rush start these games. I 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.160 think that's a certainty, But do not be surprised if 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.200 you see ten to fifteen snaps from Trey Lance as 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.560 well working him in with some situational things. I mean, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.960 Mike McCarthy talked about it during the preseason that there 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.560 are packages in this offense that are specifically designed for 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.520 Trey Lance that they used during the preseason. Well, it's 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.480 time to knock the dust off those things and bring 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.560 him back for these next four weeks and figure out 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.600 what you got in the young kid get his first 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.080 opportunity in a regular season game for the Cowboys since 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:57.400 they brought him in a year and a half ago, 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.600 and just see what he's got. But I think this 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.000 is a good opportunity to see what each of these 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.760 guys can bring over the course in the next few seasons. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.720 But if we're talking about this season specifically, I mean, yeah, 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.200 you want to try to find your guy that can 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.640 help you win at the at the end of the day, 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.600 and you know, Jerry Jones still retains a lot of 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.440 hope that there is a chance to win this season. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.080 I mean, trading for a guy in Jonathan Mingo and 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.880 giving up a fourth round pick speaks to that. So 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.200 I think I think if they want to have their 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.040 best shot at winning, it is Cooper Rush. You know, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.200 he's a guy that can direct the offense. He won't 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.440 take any crazy chances, but on that same token, he 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.680 can move the offense down the field. The one thing 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.400 that he does not have that I wish he did 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.360 have was a running game. And I think this offense 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.240 could really struggle if Cooper Rush has a game where 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.200 you know, he throws a couple of picks or he 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.240 can't move the ball down the field in the short 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.000 passing situations because they don't have a running game that's 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.240 shown they can be sustainable enough to help him out. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.280 Yeah, one of my yeah, one of my questions for 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.520 you guys today or what are the what's the challenges 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.080 for Cooper Rush? You know, what are the challenges of 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.760 him going as being the starter now? And I know 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.800 me personally, when Cooper Rush played last time, when those 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.840 five games he had a defense, I don't think he 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.640 has that defense that he has that he had back then. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.960 They could lean on that they punting was okay, you 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.760 could go play defense and you'd be okay. Three and 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:23.200 outs now are like death to this defense because teams 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.520 have figured out how to drive the ball and they 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.760 get stops occasionally, but then there's been a lot of 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.560 times this year where it's ended up being points and 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.840 I think that's personally the challenge that I look at 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.040 the hurdles that he's going to have to overcome, is 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.720 that maybe he's not going to have the defense he 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.400 had the first time around that he did this. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.400 I mean, you had issues, You've been having issues with 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:50.280 your starter quarterback and Cooper Rush. As much as I 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.160 like him and we've seen him be very successful, we've 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.760 seen him be a great backup quarterback and just do 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.120 what he needed to do and get wins for this 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.600 team before, but at the same time, different offensive line, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.520 different running game, the passing game, the receivers. You saw 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.239 the difference in there as well, where he did have 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:15.600 success with those second team receivers. But it's just it's 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.639 a bad situation for him to be put in and 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.919 for you to expect that he's going to come in 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.040 and be the savior. And again that doesn't mean that 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.440 he's a bad quarterback. It's just not the right scenario 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:27.240 for a backup. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.280 Yeah, I think to me, you know, you look me personally, 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.960 I would play Trey Lance just and this is it's 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.000 a selfish reason because I'm thinking about. I don't think 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:39.560 things are going to get better. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:40.480 You would start Tree Lance. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.520 I would start Trey Lance just for this reason. I'm 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.840 playing for the compensatory pick. I'm trying to get Trey 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.919 Lance to maybe look really, really really good, you know, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.040 and maybe maybe catch lightning in a bottle and you 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.800 win some of these games. But then all of a sudden, say, 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.919 he you know, if he plays well, you're not going 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.439 to resign him because it's going to be too much money. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.719 I'm thinking about the the compense story pick. You know, 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.560 if all of a sudden, Trey Lance does play well, 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.600 he signs a sizable contract in twenty twenty six, you 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:12.040 actually maybe recoup something for him. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.600 he plays well enough the way instead you gave him before. 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.760 You're right, he plays now you get a third out 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.080 of that. That's my that's my selfish reason right now. 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:21.639 You know, it is what I'm looking at for that 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.280 same reason, Brian, I might actually I might actually play 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:26.639 him in the way that I think they're going to 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.520 play him, which is give him a package. Yeah, because 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.159 I look at Trey and I'm like the things I 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.240