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Speaker 5: ol at evo. It is a busy morning here at

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Speaker 5: the Star. Lots of things going on. Jerry Jones had

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Speaker 5: his his time with the guys over at the Fan

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Speaker 5: this morning, Sean RJ and Bobby and drop several different

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Speaker 5: things that that are I guess buzzing at this point

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Speaker 5: news items. We'll start first with his comment that that

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Speaker 5: they are definitely going to be or he said they're

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Speaker 5: likely to be making a move at wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: There are reports out there right now.

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Speaker 5: That the Cowboys are making a trade for Jonathan Mingo. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: there is nothing that's been reported that is not a

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Speaker 5: full and it's not something that is already that has

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Speaker 5: been substantiated yet by the organization publicly, So we don't

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Speaker 5: know if that's actually fact, but we do know Jerry

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Speaker 5: said something's happened in wide receiver position.

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Speaker 3: That's what's being reported. Let's start first.

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Speaker 5: I do want to talk a little bit from the

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Speaker 5: standpoint of just the idea of what this could mean

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Speaker 5: for the Cowboys if this is to happen. From the

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Speaker 5: stamp point of the player himself, what do you guys know.

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Speaker 5: I know you guys have looked at this player in

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Speaker 5: the draft, and Jerry mentioned the player that they were

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Speaker 5: looking at was a player that was a draftable, a

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Speaker 5: player that they liked in the draft. What did you

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Speaker 5: see from this player particularly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a guy that's physical six foot two,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty pounds, and that's what Dallas needs

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Speaker 2: in the receiving core right now. They need a little

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Speaker 2: bit more physicality. This is an easily moved receiving corps

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Speaker 2: in the sense that we've talked about it on the

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Speaker 2: show many times that these guys are getting pushed off

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Speaker 2: the line by this more physical secondary player. Over the

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Speaker 2: course of the last few weeks, Mingo is a little

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Speaker 2: bit tougher to push around. Granted, he does have athleticism

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Speaker 2: he's just kind of this big load who will kind

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Speaker 2: of come at you. He's got some athleticism. Two four

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Speaker 2: the combine, ten foot nine inch broad jump from the

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Speaker 2: combine as well a couple of years ago, but on

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Speaker 2: that same token, the production is not really matched when

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Speaker 2: it's come with Jonathan Mingo. He has played nine career

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Speaker 2: He has more than nine hundred yards and only one

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Speaker 2: to Ole, miss kind of struggles to find exactly what

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Speaker 2: his role is until his junior year. Junior year had

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Speaker 2: a good year. Senior year had a great year, and

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Speaker 2: but it hasn't really translated to Carolina. Inconsistent quarterback play

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Speaker 2: So that is not great. And that factors in running

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a guy when you watch you could definitely

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Speaker 6: he'll play on the outside. Everything for him, when you

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Speaker 6: he fights the ball a little bit. I don't think

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Speaker 6: I mean, he could get to he could get this

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Speaker 6: When when he was able to make those catches, you

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Speaker 6: of it will help. He kind of bullies you. And

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Speaker 6: though that to me, that you know, you're you're kind

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Speaker 6: three draft, had some other receivers ahead of him. That's

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Speaker 6: a you know, right around the third round grade on

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Speaker 6: you know it's there's like I say, I I think

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Speaker 6: with his athletic ability and then his size, that maybe

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Speaker 6: There there were there were games where you're just like going, gosh,

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Speaker 5: Did he have any of that downfield ability in his

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Speaker 6: I you know, I don't remember him making a bunch

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Speaker 6: And maybe that's what Carolina does to you. You know,

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Speaker 6: he didn't look like the same receiver. He looked like

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Speaker 6: a big guy. The physical part of it you saw

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you see some big playability. I'm just kind of

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Speaker 2: Vanderbilty had nine receptions for two hundred and forty seven.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: A game against Central Arkansas he had three receptions for

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Speaker 6: Yeah and yeah, I mean as far as as far

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Speaker 5: Which you would think for a big receiver, you would

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Speaker 6: He gets off the ball. I mean you could see

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Speaker 6: What is what is this guy's kryptonite right now? You know,

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Speaker 6: because he only has twelve catches and twenty four target

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Speaker 6: I seen any catches with press coverage here? And I hadn't,

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Speaker 6: But you know, five targets out of twenty four routes

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Speaker 7: So when I saw the news, initially, I was like,

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Speaker 7: any sense to me. But then you take a moment

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Speaker 7: even if it's something that doesn't necessarily change the course

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Speaker 7: We talked and I brought it up yesterday, how you

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Speaker 7: free agency and you're gonna have once again have to

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Speaker 7: rely a lot on the draft. This is a player

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Speaker 7: that Jerry mentioned, like you mentioned as well, that they

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Speaker 7: liked before that they were looking at. So maybe it's

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Speaker 7: a perfect opportunity for them to where they they're still

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Speaker 7: getting young talent, but someone that already has been in

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Speaker 7: the league for a little bit has had some experience,

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Speaker 7: not the kind of experience.

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Speaker 2: You're looking for because once again success.

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Speaker 7: Or the success because of the quarterback or those situations

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The the thing that folks are going to have trouble

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Speaker 6: You know you needed that fourth round pick to do something.

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Speaker 2: From a draft perspective, I mean that we're trending towards

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Speaker 5: Here would be my question for you guys, going back

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Speaker 6: I see what they're doing for the factor where they

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Speaker 2: He's a party visit here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. The thing that would give me a little bit

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Speaker 5: And that's going to be the part where you'll have

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Speaker 2: It's time to get creative and figure out what you

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Speaker 2: But if we're talking about this season specifically, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, one of my yeah, one of my questions for

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Speaker 6: They could lean on that they punting was okay, you

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Speaker 7: I mean, you had issues, You've been having issues with

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think to me, you know, you look me personally,

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Speaker 2: You would start Tree Lance.

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Speaker 6: I would start Trey Lance just for this reason. I'm

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Speaker 6: actually maybe recoup something for him. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe

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Speaker 6: he plays well enough the way instead you gave him before.

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Speaker 6: You're right, he plays now you get a third out

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Speaker 5: You know, it is what I'm looking at for that

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Speaker 5: And that may you get what you're what you're talking

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because you're not going to get anything for him

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Speaker 3: All right, Brian, what you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Nick?

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Speaker 2: Throw it at me?

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Speaker 6: Is this where Osodiggy's swag gets it going. He was

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Speaker 6: double team fifty five percent of the past ERUs snaps,

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Speaker 6: but he had seven pressures. Is this where he gets

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Speaker 6: it going?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Just going forward? This is where he gets it going.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it could be. The last couple of years

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Speaker 2: he's he's had moments like he did against Atlanta, and

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Speaker 2: then he's had moments like he had against New Orleans

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Speaker 2: and Baltimore. You know, so it's it's you take her

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Speaker 2: win so we can get him with Olsa Digizuo. And

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Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, yes, he's

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Speaker 2: a physical three technique that is aggressive. He has a

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Speaker 2: high motor, but at the end of the day, he

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Speaker 2: is undersized for that position and you're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: take your ones with your losses when it comes to

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Speaker 2: those Osa digiz I don't think it's something that can

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Speaker 2: be consistent just given his frame and his history so far.

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Speaker 6: Derek, I swear USA gets it going.

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Speaker 3: I think Osa is capable.

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Speaker 5: What I got to see and what I can't say

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Speaker 5: that he is that I can't The reason why I

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Speaker 5: can't say yes right now is because I haven't seen

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Speaker 5: him consistently put it together over time, and I've seen

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Speaker 5: him flash. I've seen him have games like that where

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Speaker 5: he plays just really outstanding football, and I keep waiting

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Speaker 5: for that moment where I'm like, he's about he's gonna

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Speaker 5: take that step and now become one of the best

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Speaker 5: three techniques in the NFL, because I think he has

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Speaker 5: that ability. I really do believe that, but I just

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Speaker 5: haven't seen it consistently enough, and so until he can

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Speaker 5: show it consistently, it's hard to say at this point

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Speaker 5: in his career, Yes, that's who he is and he's

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Speaker 5: ready he's gonna take that step. But he's definitely there.

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Speaker 5: He's there and capable of doing it. Now, it's just

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Speaker 5: a matter of it whether he can put it together.

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Speaker 2: And Barr, I love Osa.

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Speaker 7: I think he's a great player, but I do think

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Speaker 7: as well that he does need some of the help

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Speaker 7: from other guys around him in order to allow him

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Speaker 7: to be more successful. If we were talking about a

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Speaker 7: time where let's say Micah Parsons is coming back into

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Speaker 7: the mix, the law is coming back into the mix,

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Speaker 7: I think having guys like that creates more opportunity for

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Speaker 7: a guy like Osa to be able to just they

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Speaker 7: draw a little bit more attention Osa. He's explosive, and

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Speaker 7: I think he would be shining a lot more if

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Speaker 7: he had some better help around him.

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Speaker 6: I like that Derek can, Micah Parsons and Curl Loss

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Speaker 6: and be the one two punch this Cowboys pass rush needs.

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Speaker 5: I think they could be a part of the one

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Speaker 5: two punched that this Cowboys plus pass rush needs.

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Speaker 3: I think they still need.

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Speaker 5: But I still think they need to blit some and

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Speaker 5: we talked about using overshown.

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Speaker 3: This last game.

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Speaker 5: We saw them mix up the pressure a little bit,

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Speaker 5: bring it from different points with different players at different levels.

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to have to keep doing that

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Speaker 5: because I don't think it's going to be just enough.

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Speaker 5: With Carl Lawson and with with Mike I think that'll

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Speaker 5: help a ton. I think they still got to get

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Speaker 5: more from from other positions in order to really get

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Speaker 5: a successful pass rush.

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Speaker 6: Going Ambar can Persons and Loss and be the one

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Speaker 6: two punch this Cowboys pass rush needs real quick?

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Speaker 7: Were we with with Micah?

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Speaker 3: Like Jerry said this morning that he expects them to

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Speaker 3: be back to I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's good, that's good.

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Speaker 6: That's why I kind of framed the question.

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Speaker 7: Damn, listen to the whole interview.

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Speaker 3: You got caught up on the We're gonna sign something

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Speaker 5: He literally just dropping nugget after nugget after nugget this morning,

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Speaker 5: and I was driving like, oh gosh, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 5: that's oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: I missed that one.

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Speaker 7: But okay, great, mus Now all that was likely.

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Speaker 3: He didn't say for sure. He said he's likely to be.

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Speaker 7: Well, we've heard before likely likely for cars, and they

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Speaker 7: took an extra week or so, so I think, yeah,

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Speaker 7: they can be. But I keep going back to those

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Speaker 7: first few games where again it was the beginning of

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Speaker 7: the season, so sometimes they need a little bit of

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Speaker 7: time to kind of get going.

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Speaker 3: But it just.

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Speaker 7: Micah wasn't at his best us just yet. So I

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Speaker 7: would love to say yes to your answer, but I

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Speaker 7: don't believe he's gonna return one hundred when he comes

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Speaker 7: back from this injury. I don't think we're gonna see

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Speaker 7: him be the Micah Parsons that we know he can be.

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Speaker 7: And it's gonna take several weeks, but there is potential

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Speaker 7: there for that Cumbo to do what they need to do.

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Speaker 2: I got it, Nick, Yeah, I'm pretty much gonna bounce

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Speaker 2: off what Derek and Ambar just said. I think Carl

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Speaker 2: Lawson has definitely found, you know, a little bit of

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Speaker 2: rhythm now that he's had more snaps, more opportunities in

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Speaker 2: this defense in the absence of Parsons and Lawrence. But

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Speaker 2: I think I look at him as more so what

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Speaker 2: Dante Fowler brought to this team last year. When everybody's

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Speaker 2: at full strength and fully healthy, I see that kind

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Speaker 5: That's That's an interesting point because I think the difference,

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Speaker 5: in my opinion, between last year's pass rusher and this

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Speaker 5: year's pass rush is that what we saw last year

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Speaker 5: is if if you have multiple guys you can keep

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Speaker 5: rolling in right, because these are rotational positions. Those guys

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Speaker 5: don't stay on the field for every rep. So if

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Speaker 5: you can keep rotating guys through and your third and

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Speaker 5: fourth guy can get just as much pressure as your

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Speaker 5: first and second guy, that's when you could really have

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Speaker 5: some success in the pass rush. So having two guys

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Speaker 5: that you think could possibly get home versus last year

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Speaker 5: having six is a very very big difference in your

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Speaker 5: ability to get after the opposing team's quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, Dante Fowler six and a half

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Speaker 2: sacks so far in the season. He's on a pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl pace.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's let's be real. Dante Fowler has always

632
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Speaker 5: been a really good pass rusher. Yeah, there are other

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Speaker 5: things that like that that he may be not as

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Speaker 5: great at, but he's always been a really good pass

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Speaker 5: rusher when he came here. He's a really good bas rusher,

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Speaker 5: and he was a good pass rusher for for Dallas.

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Speaker 6: And bar What if I told you that Tyler Guidon

638
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Speaker 6: allowed the fewest pressures in the Atlanta game, Spicy.

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Speaker 7: I would say, really, are you sure?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely him? Yes, Martin gave up seven, Still gave up six,

641
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Speaker 6: Smith gave up five BB five, and Guy gave up four.

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Speaker 2: Willutos to him?

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, It's really good. And again we've

644
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Speaker 7: talked about him being a very talented player, and we

645
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Speaker 7: see the potential there for sure, but again rookie, and

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Speaker 7: he's gonna take some development. But what you like seeing,

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Speaker 7: or at least me, what I like seeing from a

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Speaker 7: rookie is that kind of progression where it's just not

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Speaker 7: like a bunch of ups and downs, but also in

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Speaker 7: those ups and downs, it is a steady upward, you know.

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Speaker 7: Is that how does that make sense? Yes, you followed

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Speaker 7: the the stock market eventually, Oh, the general over growth

653
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Speaker 7: is still trending up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I think

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Speaker 7: that's what we're starting to see with him. Definitely not

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Speaker 7: going to be a bust or anything like that, I

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Speaker 7: don't think so. So that's great, but it's still very

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Speaker 7: very concerning for the rest of the line because you're

658
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Speaker 7: talking about veteran guys except for Bebe, but the rest

659
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Speaker 7: of it is just like, man, this is not where

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Speaker 7: I expect that any of them should be. Again, with

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Speaker 7: the exception of like Tyler Smith, he's been a very

662
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Speaker 7: solid player, but just overall very disappointing season.

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Speaker 2: Nick, Yeah, it doesn't entirely surprise me, just because I

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Speaker 2: saw Terrence Steele getting beat more often than not on Sunday.

665
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Speaker 2: And sometimes it's been games where you identify both of them.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's one of them, and this game was certainly

667
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Speaker 2: one of them where I focus on Terrence Steele getting

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Speaker 2: beat a lot. But this was an opportunity for Tyler

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Speaker 2: got in to succeed against a pass rush that waspletely

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Speaker 2: dormant going into that game. You know that was that

671
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Speaker 2: was a game where you hoped Tyler gotton would have

672
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Speaker 2: a have a solid effort, and he did so it

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Speaker 2: doesn't entirely surprise me, but I think that's an interesting

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Speaker 2: note for sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Actually he was one on one eighty one percent

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Speaker 6: of the snaps.

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Speaker 2: That's good pass the pass rush. I was also thinking too.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to think of the back of my

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Speaker 2: mind while Ambar was talking how many times he had

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Speaker 2: help And they didn't throw Dowlond cook out like they

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Speaker 2: did against San Francisco. Obviously, Uh, a scoonmaker only had

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Speaker 2: one snap, so they really and Brevian span Ford wasn't

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Speaker 2: on the field that oftense, so uh, they didn't give

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Speaker 2: him a lot of help either. They trusted him with it.

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Speaker 3: Derek, I absolutely agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Actually, you and I talked about this yesterday and after

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Speaker 5: I watched the film, I was kind of surprised, and

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Speaker 5: I was like, Brian on my eyes playing tricks on

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Speaker 5: it as a talent evaluator, tell me I wasn't wrong,

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Speaker 5: and you were like, no, I saw the same thing

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Speaker 5: he did not. He had a pretty good game, And

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Speaker 5: I think the the real story of that game from

694
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Speaker 5: an offensive line standpoint is more so the fact that

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Speaker 5: the right side was such they had so many problems,

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Speaker 5: particularly with twists and stunts, and and particularly you talk

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Speaker 5: about the guard and center tandem. There were a few

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Speaker 5: things that just kind of it just seemed like they

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Speaker 5: weren't on the same page all the time, they weren't

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Speaker 5: getting off one block to get to the other enough,

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Speaker 5: and then obviously the challenges that still's having. So I

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Speaker 5: think that's the story. But I think that the side

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Speaker 5: note is that Giden had a pretty good game there,

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Speaker 5: and it does tell us again something I think I

705
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Speaker 5: know about him right now. He's got talent, he's been

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Speaker 5: he's been having some rough games against some better talent,

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Speaker 5: and that's where he's gonna have to develop, is he

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Speaker 5: can play with the guys that aren't the greatest pass

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Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 3: Right it's very few.

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Speaker 6: And far between. It's a guy that he's better at

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Speaker 6: right at.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's played some of the better ones and

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Speaker 5: he's had some rough was over.

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Speaker 6: There quite a bit over him too, which was I

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Speaker 6: thought was a good thing to go. All right, Nick,

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Speaker 6: my final question for you here, give me your thought

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Speaker 6: on this. In this Atlanta game, the Cowboy's receivers had

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Speaker 6: two receptions on nine tight window throws.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's part for the course. That's my

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Speaker 2: thoughts on it. I Dak Prescott's near the top of

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Speaker 2: the league and having to attempt tight window throws over

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Speaker 2: the course of these first nine nine weeks doesn't entirely

724
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Speaker 2: surprise me that that's that sounds like part for the course.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that stacks up against as far

726
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Speaker 2: as the other seven games that they've played. Oh, it's

727
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Speaker 2: not good, but that's about what it looks like as

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Speaker 2: far as what what Dak has had to do in

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Speaker 2: tight window situations so far.

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Speaker 6: The se Ceedee Lamb was the only two receptions against

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Speaker 6: tight window throws. He had both of them. All the

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Speaker 6: other wide receivers had zero catches first tight window throws.

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Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson included kind of surprises me there too.

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Speaker 3: Wait say the SAT again.

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Speaker 6: For me, it's the wide receivers, is what receivers. Cowboy's

736
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Speaker 6: receivers had two receptions on nine tight window opportunities.

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Speaker 3: So all the rest of them were incomplete.

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Speaker 6: All the rest of were incomplete.

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Speaker 5: Now there's a lot in that because my question becomes

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Speaker 5: what was the throw not on target? Where the receivers

741
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Speaker 5: not catching the ball? Obviously, the first part is why

742
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Speaker 5: there's so many tight window throws, right, But we've already

743
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Speaker 5: talked about all that, but I would want to know,

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Speaker 5: like in those situations, was this a situation where Dak

745
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Speaker 5: was trying to get it in there but it wasn't

746
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Speaker 5: as accurate as it needs to because on tight window

747
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Speaker 5: throw the accuracy is everything. You know, Putting it, you know,

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Speaker 5: five inches over this way makes a big difference in

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Speaker 5: whether it's going to be completed or not. I'd love

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Speaker 5: to know on those throws, where was the ball placement?

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Speaker 5: Was it in a place where the receiver had an

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Speaker 5: opportunity to really be able to catch it and the

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Speaker 5: defender didn't have a chance to get a hand on it.

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Speaker 6: See the thing I always think of the tight window

755
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Speaker 6: throws that Dallas leads the league in it, and because

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Speaker 6: they never separate absolutely that's I mean, and you're your

757
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Speaker 6: logic is absolutely right, But I just I constantly struggle

758
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Speaker 6: with the fact that they just don't have any easy throws.

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Speaker 6: Everything it seems like it's contested, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that goes back to what what Troy

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Speaker 5: aik Been said a few weeks ago, and I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, yeah, I think I think as Jerry said

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Speaker 5: it on the on the radio as well, like you

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Speaker 5: got it when Troy says it.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he has some.

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Speaker 5: Credence because the guy knows what he's talking about.

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Speaker 3: He knows football somber.

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Speaker 7: Any thoughts on that, Well, I'm assuming you're you come

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Speaker 7: up with this question based on you watching film. Do

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Speaker 7: you remember what during those like what's happening on the

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Speaker 7: other side, Like what are are there any other open

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Speaker 7: guys on the field that he could have thrown to?

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Speaker 6: This team is always covered when you watch it, really

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Speaker 6: really is. Now, I say that the one time when

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00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 6: he got sacked, yep, when he got sacked, he had

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Speaker 6: a chance to throw it in the flat or throw

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Speaker 6: the wheel, I mean, and.

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Speaker 3: The wheel was wide open a touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, because I feel like it doesn't always happen.

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Speaker 7: But there's been occasions where even where he just throws

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Speaker 7: it away or whatever, like there's somebody that's open out

782
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Speaker 7: there that he just didn't see or could have thrown to.

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Speaker 7: So but as far as like coverage itself, I mean,

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Speaker 7: I'm with you on that. I mean, I put that

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Speaker 7: more on the receiver. But then also you know.

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Speaker 6: It's just I've just said it always seems like these

787
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Speaker 6: guys are covered. That's what I'm kind of and then

788
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Speaker 6: when they have to make a play covered, it's a

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Speaker 6: little bit.

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Speaker 7: But then also could have been maybe is it Dak

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Speaker 7: being too slow on the play? Like we know all

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Speaker 7: these plays are designing. It's very much on timing, Like

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Speaker 7: you know, you have to hit your mark when you're

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Speaker 7: supposed to. I mean, is he I don't know, but

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Speaker 7: definitely not not a good thing to have.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: Thank right, appreciate it. We're gonna take our final break.

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Speaker 5: want you guys give me a quick update on some injuries.

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Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb, Michael Parsons, Deron Bland. Where do we sit

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Speaker 3: with these guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ceedee Lamb dealing with a sprained a sea joint

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Speaker 2: maybe back on the practice field Thursday. I would expect

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Speaker 2: him to be out tomorrow and then maybe get back

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Speaker 2: in a limited fashion on Thursday. They're gonna play it

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Speaker 2: slow with him, play it smart. MICHAEH. Parsons not sure

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Speaker 2: as far as uh practice schedule will go throughout the week,

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Speaker 2: but Mike McCarthy did say yesterday that he wants to

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Speaker 2: get him back in the mix at least in a

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Speaker 2: limited fashion tomorrow. So, uh, we'll see going into tomorrow

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Speaker 2: what that What comes about with Micah And what was

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Speaker 2: the other one you had mentioned Deron Bland, Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: one I think has a little bit more question mark.

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Speaker 2: This is a situation with Deron Bland where he had

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Speaker 2: that set back ahead of the Detroit game. I think

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Speaker 2: it's kind of messed up the timeline for everybody, including Deron,

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Speaker 2: So I mean very clearly so because they activated that

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Speaker 2: window with the anticipation that he would at least be

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Speaker 2: ready by Atlanta worst case scenario, and that just was

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Speaker 2: not the case. So that one, he Mike McCarthy had

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Speaker 2: said that he's gonna be at the rehab group tomorrow Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: So maybe if he gets back on the field in

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Speaker 2: a limited fashion by Friday Saturday, then we'll start talking

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Speaker 2: about it. But right now I don't have a great

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Speaker 2: outlook for Deron Bland.

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Speaker 3: That's disappointing. All right, we appreciate you guys. Jonas.

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