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Speaker 1: on DASH Radio. Thank you guys so much for coming

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Speaker 1: to hang out on a Tuesday. Man. Uh, it's so

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Speaker 1: frustrating to watch this team in a situation where they're

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Speaker 1: really competing in a way that they haven't really done

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Speaker 1: so the season. But now they're in the awkward situation

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Speaker 1: stuff to dive into tonight. Uh. First of all, ROJ,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, man? How's your week on so far?

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Speaker 1: Doing well? Yeah, another frustrating one. I went I went

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make it any easier. It's still little frustrating.

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Speaker 1: They played hard. I still annoyed a lot of the

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Speaker 1: How are you? How are you doing this week? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing good. You know a lot of our guys, like,

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Speaker 1: for instance, I'm sure a lot of people are frustrated

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Speaker 1: that Dwight was not playing, but Delandre was h th

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Speaker 1: HD looked horrible, which is gonna be one of the

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Speaker 1: things that we're going to discuss at length today. But

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Speaker 1: something to keep in mind is these guys have been

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Speaker 1: at least, I think, I don't know, do you do?

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Speaker 1: But it's strange to me that, like THHD came back

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Speaker 1: And and I'll give you guys, I know I know

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Speaker 1: these examples don't hit home super well because I'm not

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Speaker 1: an NBA player, but I was. I was trending really

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Speaker 1: hitting a long time a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: just the sheer amount of conditioning and touch and feel

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Speaker 1: It was crazy to me. And it took took me

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Speaker 1: inevitably going to play a role tonight. Yeah, this definitely

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Speaker 1: this case, it's usually going to be the wars shooter

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Speaker 1: against Golden State or against Phoenix. They're going to ignore

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Speaker 1: because I genuinely believe that th h T, and I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people disagree with me. I saw

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Speaker 1: But the reality is is that even though I think

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Speaker 1: really quickly. But yeah, that's my thing on Taylor Man.

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Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere for four weeks, so he needs

430
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 1: we need to know how to replicate him and put

431
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: him into lineups that are successful for him because he's

432
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: the big part of this team and he needs to

433
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: play like benching him. I don't think is the answer either.

434
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's my thing on him, and hopefully

435
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 1: he shoots better too. I think it's a better shooter

436
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 1: than he shoved. He absolutely and and and again, like

437
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: when you have the touch that he has, it's just

438
00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: about building a functional spot up three points and getting

439
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 1: him to the point where he trusts his muscle memory

440
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: and he can get it off at game speed. Because

441
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: that's the biggest adjustment you'll see, especially young players, is

442
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 1: you get them, you get them in a gym by themselves,

443
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: and they'll knock them down all day long. But there's

444
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: something about the transition between that and game speed that

445
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: throws them up. It's it's the biggest thing that I

446
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: think Kevin Durant has nailed on the head. That nailed

447
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: on the head with training is he always talks about

448
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: how he practices at game speed, and that's I don't

449
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: think enough players do that, um And that's what you'll

450
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: see because PhD. What I've noticed a lot, especially when

451
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: he first came back from the thumb injury, is he

452
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: was leaving a lot of stuff short. And to me,

453
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: that's like trying to that's trying to slow yourself down.

454
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: While you're shooting instead of just going with the same

455
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: speed that you were in practice, because you were already

456
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: practicing at a game speed. But I digress. The I

457
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: agree with you about waiting until January in the sense that, yes,

458
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: you have to read the cards at that point. The

459
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: point is like, to me, all signs are pointing in

460
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: that direction. For in my opinion, like there, he looked

461
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: so good in that first couple of games back that

462
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: I think I think we all, like I said, tantalized,

463
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: that we were tantalized by that, that potential future. But

464
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: what you're so, you're talking about like getting th HD

465
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Speaker 1: in in these situations where he has an advantage, And

466
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Speaker 1: I totally get that. In a perfect world, right, Like

467
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Speaker 1: in a perfect world where we could afford to throw

468
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Speaker 1: a bunch of possessions in th hd S direction to

469
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 1: try to get him development opportunities, I'd agree with you.

470
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Speaker 1: But this is this goes back to the concept of

471
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Speaker 1: diminishing returns. Like it's one thing when Russ is running action,

472
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Speaker 1: Lebron's running action. Russ is running action, Lebron's running action. Okay,

473
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: let's hit th HT curling out of the week side corner.

474
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: Once and then go back to Lebron and Russ. That's

475
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: one thing, But you can't just throw a bunch of

476
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: possessions at th HT where he has action run for

477
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: him without taking a way from your primary initiators. And

478
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: and that's where we get into the diminishing returns concept.

479
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: The idea of what th HD can be keeps us

480
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Speaker 1: from acknowledging the reality of what this situation is, which

481
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: is that he's a very young player who's very volatile offensively.

482
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: Even when you do run stuff for him, there are

483
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: nights where it looks great and knights where it doesn't.

484
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: And so within the confines of this season, his value

485
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: to this team and their ultimate goal is lower than

486
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Speaker 1: what his value is elsewhere in the league. And strictly

487
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: analytical thinkers would tell you your best chance to win

488
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: a championship as the trader that that that, and so

489
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: obviously you have to factor in some some other aspects

490
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: to that, like, yes, Lebron is getting older, who's going

491
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: to be the perimeter initiator when he's gone, Like all

492
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: of that stuff still as a factor here. I'm not

493
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Speaker 1: trying to diminish that by any stretch of the imagination,

494
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Speaker 1: but foundationally, right now, he is less valuable to us

495
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: than he is elsewhere, which is is the ideal time

496
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: to trade a player. And so when we get to

497
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: that point, when we get to January, if he still

498
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: if he still looks like he does now, which is lost.

499
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Speaker 1: I love that word you used. Loss is the right

500
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: word in the sense that his skill set, particularly on

501
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: the offensive end, doesn't appear to fit with our system. Now,

502
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: you made some good points about this system and the

503
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: fact that the system is not is not really utilized

504
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: properly for him, but it's utilized for who We do

505
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: have guys that are ready right now, our system is

506
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: set up for like right now, we're leaning heavily into

507
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: small ball, and it's a tunnel Lebron, it's a ton

508
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: of rus and we're seeing a little bit of Isai

509
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: Toomas to Rondo around that our system is set up

510
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: for those guys we can't afford to set things up

511
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: for th ht you know what I mean. And so

512
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, like it's it's a little bit unrealistic,

513
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: like it made it made more sense last year when

514
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: Lebron and a d both were hurt to be like, Okay,

515
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: let's let's get th ht a ton of reps, you

516
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I just I struggle with

517
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Speaker 1: it within the confines of this season, and I think

518
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: it will be end up being the And again, if

519
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: if we have a month and he just got out

520
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: of a hotel room for a week and a half,

521
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Speaker 1: so if over the course of the next month, if

522
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Speaker 1: he seems to kind of start knocking down more of

523
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Speaker 1: those spot up opportunities, succeed in his limited sets that

524
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: are run his direction, and do a better job of

525
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: attacking closeouts while also bringing everything that he does defensively.

526
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Speaker 1: Now we're talking about something different. Now, we're talking about

527
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Speaker 1: a player that's every bit as good as we could

528
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: hope for Jeremy Grant to be anyway, And at that point,

529
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Speaker 1: you're right now we're getting Jeremy Grant now and potentially

530
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Speaker 1: an All Star guard in the future. Like that, then

531
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Speaker 1: I'm all in on that, and I get it. All

532
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like, if it more or less looks

533
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Speaker 1: like this in January, I think you have to trade

534
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: him at that point. Yeah, Now that that's totally fair.

535
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: And I met more with the like Anthony Davis is

536
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: out right, so we need like offensive options in our

537
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: second unit, and I honestly rather see a T h

538
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: D kind of run some kind of actions than just

539
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: and when Isaiah Thomas is on obviously, and we both

540
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: think he's not really long for this team, especially with

541
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn coming back. But just instead of you know,

542
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: the rondo th H rondo Isaiah Thomas lineups, just throw

543
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: th HD maybe in there, give him a few possessions

544
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: to take the load off of Lebron or Russ. I

545
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: just think there's stuff we can do. And I'm just

546
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: looking at, you know, his game before he went out

547
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 1: with COVID, so he missed three games. He missed the Dallas,

548
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Chicago game, but he was seven for fourteen,

549
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: four for seven both of those against the Magic and

550
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: the Thunder. So he was kind of building building up.

551
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: And again he's not the player he was tonight, and

552
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: he's not the first three games he came back averaging

553
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: twenty or something. He's somewhere in between there. And I

554
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: just think there's things we can kind of open and

555
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: open up for him. You're right, we're going small. I

556
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: thought tonight we played with some pace in the first quarter.

557
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: Phoenix again wasn't shooting well, but we ran the round

558
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: the ball down the floor for him and that stuff

559
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: that I think he can also get into. Get the ball,

560
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: push the push the ball in transition. I think his

561
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: one basket tonight, yeah, he was one for nine was

562
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: on a layoup right where he liked Yeah, yeah, you

563
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: vadded Devin Booker and you talk about the one star

564
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: play he makes every game. That was kind of it, right,

565
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: It was just like super be able to move in

566
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: transition in air and finish around Devin Booker. But yeah,

567
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: the stuff we can do, and I understand we don't

568
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: have time to develop him, it's not really what I'm

569
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: kind of I guess asking for. I just feel like

570
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: there's ways to get him involved. Like we run actions

571
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: specifically for Wayne Allington, right, we run specific ones for

572
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: him to come off pin downs. We run like picking

573
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: rolls where he's the he comes off trible handoffs, and

574
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: I think there's stuff with T h T. You can

575
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: tell he's not a spot up guy. I just think

576
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: him seeing like a layup going early would be so

577
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: big for him because you can tell he just thinks

578
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: about it all games. He's just trying to get his

579
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: first basket and it's like third quarter and you see

580
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: him start to create. But yeah, I guess that's enough

581
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: on tailing. He had a rough night and I don't

582
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: think he's as bad as he was tonight. And his

583
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: defense is you know, it's good, it's important for this team.

584
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: I think it's underrated. Like you talked to, they need

585
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: his defense and that's the reason he starts. But he

586
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: needs to start hitting some outside jobs for sure. Yeah,

587
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: so let's let's talk about the small ball thing, because

588
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: this is something we started a little bit last night

589
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: as we were talking about the couple of free agent

590
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: signings that they made with the hardship exceptions. You know,

591
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: when you first of all, there are a couple of

592
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: things that I keep an eye on when we go

593
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: small that are important. For instance, rebounding. We we rebounded

594
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: really well tonight relative to what our UH lineups that

595
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: we were playing were, Like, I think we gave up

596
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: single digit offensive rebounds. I'll pull up the numbers here

597
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: in a second, but we we we competed on the glass,

598
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: which is something that we've been begging for this team

599
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: to do all season and is absolutely imperative with the

600
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: small ball lineups. Yeah, we we were out really been

601
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: rebounded fifty three to forty seven, which is totally manageable

602
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: when you're going against Jamail McGee and DeAndre Aden, and

603
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: we only gave up eight offensive rebounds, which is a

604
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: manageable number under the circumstances. But what you have to

605
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: do in those situations when you are playing small in

606
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: my opinion, is you have to win all of the

607
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: speed in finesse areas of the game. So for instance,

608
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: we did not shoot the ball well tonight. Commelo Anthony

609
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: and Wayne Ellington both won for four, so we were

610
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: two for eight. As a team. We were only seven

611
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: for thirty five from three. When we go small and

612
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: we're playing driving kick basketball, we have to knock down shots.

613
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: That's that's an important part of this kind of system working. Secondly,

614
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: getting out in transition. We only had fifteen fast breakpoints tonight,

615
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: so we gave up twenty to Phoenix. They actually had

616
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: twenty two points off of our turnovers. So basically, when

617
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: we turn the ball over, they ran it right down

618
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: our throat. For a layout, when you play small ball,

619
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: you understand that you're giving up at things in certain

620
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: areas of the game. You understand you're probably going to

621
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: be outrebounded to some extent. You need to try to

622
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: minimize that as much as possible, and you understand you're

623
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: gonna give up specific mismatches some places on the floor,

624
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: particularly to pose players. You know, there were a lot

625
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: of plays tonight where you know, in transition JaVale McGee

626
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: or DeAndre would catch, it would be like Wayne Ellington

627
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: underneath him and they would just shoot that little flot

628
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: You expect that to a certain extent that comes with

629
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: playing small ball. You have to understand that with that,

630
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: you have to also take from the other team with

631
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 1: your overall foot speed, with your additional shooting, with your

632
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: additional skill on the floor, because typically if you're trading

633
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: at seven foot or for some six five guy, the

634
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: six five guys usually more skilled, he's faster, he's going

635
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: to bring all those things to the game. So there

636
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: there there's a foundation here that's starting to build. We

637
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: we had a huge leap today in our rebounding. That's great.

638
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: I thought Trevor Rizo was awesome in particular defensive rebound

639
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: and that's the thing that that we were expecting with

640
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: him coming back into the group. But we have to

641
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: put it all together in order for this to function.

642
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: In order for this to function, we have to shoot

643
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Speaker 1: the ball well. We have to knock down the three

644
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: point opportunities that come our way. We have to push

645
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: the ball in transition and get easy shots with our

646
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: foot speed because our total lineup foot speed should in

647
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: theory be better than the other team because we're playing small,

648
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: and we have to do the rebounding stuff that i

649
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: was talking about. If all of that comes together, this

650
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: can work. And you know the most important part about

651
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: that is Anthony Davis is so versatile that you can

652
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: more or less play the same style of basketball just

653
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: by plugging him back in. I mean, technically he's a center,

654
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: so you're gonna it's like bringing a center back into

655
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: the game. But he can guard guards and wings and defense,

656
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: and offensively, he can spot up and he can play

657
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: on the he can attack close outs. He can do

658
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So you can build a small ball

659
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: identity during this time where you polish up all those

660
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: things I'm talking about, defensive, rebounding, pushing the ball in transition,

661
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, uh, driving kick basketball, generating super high quality threes,

662
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: attacking clothes out. Well, you can do all of that

663
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: and then just basically plug Anthony Davison as a fifth

664
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Speaker 1: guard who happens to have all the physical capabilities of

665
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: a center. And this could be a really dangerous playoff team,

666
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: more in line with what we saw with the Clippers

667
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: and Nets last year, as opposed to the brute force,

668
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: physicality type of team that we were in previous year.

669
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: So there is there is some silver lining stuff here,

670
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: and and and this this is the last thing I'll

671
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: say about it, because there was a lot of negativity

672
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: surrounding the Lakers today on Twitter and in the podcast

673
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: where I tweeted about how Zach Low and Kevin Pelton

674
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: were extremely critical in the Lakers. Guys, this is this

675
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: is this is really important to remember here. And I

676
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: know it's hard to see the forest for the trees

677
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: under the circumstances. We just got our butts kicked by

678
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: the Sun's right after we lost a tough one on

679
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: the road in Chicago, right after we got our butts

680
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: kicked in Minnesota when a d sprained his knee and

681
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: all these players are out with COVID. I get that

682
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: it's really hard to see the forest for the trees.

683
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: But this team was trending in the right direction. Clear lead.

684
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: They had won seven of ten going into the Minnesota game,

685
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: going into the a d injury. They were coming back

686
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: on Minnesota that I thought they were gonna win that game.

687
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: They had. They had taken massive leaps in terms of

688
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: their lineup structure. DeAndre Jordan's was a distant memory. We

689
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: weren't seeing any Rondo. It was a lot of shooting.

690
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: We were running the floor and transition really well. Lebron

691
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 1: was playing m v P level basketball. Really Anthony Davis

692
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: was the only guy who wasn't quite hitting all hitting

693
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: on all cylinders the way that we needed him to.

694
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: This team was trending in the right direction and got

695
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: derailed by by a nasty knee injury and COVID, And

696
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: so COVID's gonna go away in terms of players missing time.

697
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Our players will come back and Anthony Davis is coming back.

698
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: So this is this is not over. The tonight's game

699
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: was almost unwinnable. So it is what it is. But

700
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: reason there's a long term vision here and it's one

701
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: that is attainable, and that is continue these habits that

702
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: we built over the last month. In a small ball

703
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: excuse me, in a small ball concept, let Anthony Davis

704
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: get healthy, let him figure out whatever the hell was

705
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: ailing his body. Hopefully he can fix his jump shot

706
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: this time too, and then he can come back and

707
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: his team can go on and run. This team, in

708
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: my opinion, still has a championship ceiling. I know it's

709
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: hard to see that, but I very much believe that

710
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: that ceiling is still there. Yeah. And and to your

711
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: point on the small ball, uh, for tonight, I mean

712
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan was a minus twenty six in fifteen minutes,

713
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: which seems almost impossible, right, And and Rondo as well

714
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: minus twenty six. That means when we went small, it

715
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: was a pretty close game. And you talked about the

716
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: three point shooting as well. I believe that Carmelo Isaiah

717
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: Thomas in th HT where like two for nineteen combined

718
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: or something like that from three. You're just not gonna

719
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: win that way against against against Phoenix. I'm kind of like,

720
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: I get the optimism with it. And you know, there's

721
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Tim Leger I think did a video as well where

722
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: he said, even when the team's healthy, they're not a

723
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: good defensive team. Right, but we haven't seen because we

724
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: also haven't seen the team fully healthy, and they were

725
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: up taking, you know, defensively, I think they were top

726
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: ten the last like ten games or something. On defense,

727
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: they moved into the top ten as well, And that's

728
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: what makes it so frustrating. I think the reason coming

729
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: back the day after a D goes down is what's

730
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: really tough. I try to keep optimistic, but I mean, like,

731
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: you know, a D coming back in February, what's the

732
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: team gonna look like. Hopefully Kendrick Nunn comes back as well.

733
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Speaker 1: And I think Phoenix, you know, in Golden State and

734
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Utah are kind of far ahead in terms of where

735
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: they're at just where the season is. I think we're

736
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: gonna be catching up to that and try to make

737
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: a late push. You're right, there's still a chance that

738
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: there's still, you know, a season to be played. Lebron

739
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: has been great. He looked great again tonight. He was

740
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: thirteen for nineteen tonight. I mean that's just insane to me. Uh,

741
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: two for five from three as well. He was a

742
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: plus zero on the night on a game where we

743
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: lost by lost by eighteen and Lebron was a pleasant zero,

744
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: which just kind of shows you, um, what happened tonight.

745
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: And I want to ask you this because again, we

746
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: saw a lot of Lebron at the five tonight and

747
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: it is taxing on him, right, Like we can talk

748
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: about how much easier the offensive load is, but that's

749
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: still like tonight, Phoenix is a tough one to kind

750
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: of judge it on because they're all ball screen. So

751
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: you kind of have to either make a choice, right,

752
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: you either tag in on eight and or you leave

753
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: mckel bridges or Cam Johnson or whoever on the perimeter

754
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: because you couldn't switch, Uh, you can't really switch that

755
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: pick and roll of jefferent Book and Chris Paul get

756
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: to the mid range. But what do you think about,

757
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: like on Lebron in terms of his his load tonight,

758
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Like how he how tired he was, I guess trying

759
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: to play that way against the Suns because we play

760
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: a lot of him at center. DeAndre Jordan played fifteen

761
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: minutes means which means the rest and Lebron played thirty

762
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: four minutes and a lot of that I think was

763
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: at center. I think like twenty minutes of it was

764
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: at center. Um, he did look he looked fine though

765
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: physically at least even after the ankle injury. It kind

766
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: of frustrating Reggie Miller kept bringing up his ankle, and

767
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: I thought Lebron looked fine, Like I thought he was

768
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: okay after even after he went down. What do you

769
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: think about like the tax on him? I guess because

770
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: I think this is the I know Dwight Howard was

771
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: out for colored protocols, but I feel like, I mean,

772
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: I've heard Vogo kind of say they were going to

773
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: center list lineups anyway, obviously that was before a d

774
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: went down, but it still feels like they're going to

775
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: try this like one's real center and put Trevor Reas

776
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: at center, which again puts a lot of tax on Lebron.

777
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: So what do you see from him? I guess at

778
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: the center lineup tonight. So I'm not overly concerned about

779
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: it in in the long term because because first of all,

780
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, offensively, the work is easier because he's operating

781
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: in space now. Teams like Phoenix are so good at

782
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: packing the paint that it does look hard. Um, you know,

783
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: I think we saw that tonight. I think you saw

784
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: both Lebron and Russell Westbrook miss a couple of primarily Russ,

785
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 1: but Lebron had a handful of himself where they missed

786
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: right at the rim because there was you know, really

787
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: good contests and and really good help offered by Phoenix

788
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: at the at the rim. And so a game like

789
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: tonight can look particularly physically exhausting for Lebron because he's

790
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: doing everything he's doing defensively and on offense, he's kind

791
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: of operating in a lot of traffic just because Phoenix

792
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: is so good at what they do. But the truth

793
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: of the matter is is the vast majority of the

794
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: teams that we play over the course of the regular

795
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: season are gonna be less disciplined defensively, and Lebron is

796
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: gonna be operating in a ton of space offensively, and

797
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine. I think. I think a big

798
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: way to try to alleviate some of his defensive workload

799
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: two is to do more switching. Don't have him play

800
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: the Draymond role, have him be more of just like, yes,

801
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: he can do it to help in specific mismatch situations

802
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: in the post, but have the team switch more and

803
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: be more willing to give up to give up the

804
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: occasional basket around the rim because of a mismatch and

805
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: understand that over the course of the game, the fatigued.

806
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Advantages of of doing more switching will pay off in

807
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: better offense like that, like that, I'm a big believer

808
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: in that. But the truth of the matter is, Roj

809
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: and you and I both know this, Like, this team

810
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: is not going anywhere that without Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis

811
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: will come back. When Anthony Davis comes back and they're

812
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: in a postseason series, let's say they let's say they

813
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: get the sixth seed and we're on the road in

814
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: Utah to start the playoffs, the truth of the matter

815
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: is, is is Lebron and a d or playing forty minutes

816
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: of game in that series? So so, yes, Lebron is

817
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: at center is going to be something that might be

818
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: able to eat some innings in the regular season, particularly

819
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: against bad teams. Yes, it will look particularly exhausting against

820
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: the handful of truly elite defenses that we play, But

821
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is he's not going to

822
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: have to do that when push comes to shove. When

823
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: push comes to shove, it'll be short bursts of that. Now,

824
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: you're right, Over the course of the next month, it's

825
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot to ask of him, But we're

826
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: not gonna be playing Phoenix every time, and and I

827
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: think I thought Chicago it was a great example of this.

828
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: Like Chicago, that game, Lebron looked very lively on both ends,

829
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: and I thought a big part of it was just

830
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: he thrived. He'd like thrives in the energy of operating

831
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: in space offensively. And we talked about last night, like

832
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 1: he's he's going for more blocked shots than he has

833
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: in years, just like elevating and trying to block shot.

834
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: He's invigorated by by the opportunity he's having offensively to

835
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: play in space. So I'm not overly concerned about it. Yes,

836
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: the game like today is gonna beat him up. He's

837
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: gonna wake up tomorrow be sore as all hell, as

838
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: ankle is gonna hurt. But the truth of the truth

839
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: of the matter is that he's not playing Phoenix every night,

840
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: and by the time he does have to play Phoenix

841
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: every night, if we do get to that point in

842
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's gonna be Anthony Davis alongside him, and

843
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a little bit more manageable of

844
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: of a physical experience, if that makes sense. Yeah, And

845
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: then they play San Antonio next on Thursday, and then

846
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: obviously the nets who are you know, ravaged by COVID

847
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: on Christmas? There's some chance to get some wins here.

848
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: But I just think it's a fascinating thing to kind

849
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: of look at. And obviously I don't mean for the playoffs.

850
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: I mean in these next for two six weeks, because

851
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: I think both of us believe it's gonna be on

852
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: the longer end of that. Um some other like good stuff.

853
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: I guess I saw tonight like Russell Westbrook had some

854
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: bad turnovers, right, like he had some awful kind of drive,

855
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: but I thought, you know, the tempo and the pace

856
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: is kind of what we're going for. Like even in

857
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: that starting lineup, even with DeAndre Jordan playing, russ was

858
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: still kind of pushing the ball, and I think that's

859
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: something he needs to do. He was ten for twenty tonight.

860
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: Again five turnovers, but you know, tender rebounds, priv's his

861
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: three steals. I thought he played, you know, he pushed

862
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: the pace, and I think that's what he needs to

863
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: do on this team, and hopefully that kind of picks up.

864
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Hopefully he kind of pick up some for Lebron here

865
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: as as we go forward. But did you have anything else?

866
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: I guess for tonight against the Suns. Yeah, I mean

867
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: I I get really frustrated with raised on Rondo. Man.

868
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that kills me with

869
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: Rondo is like, you know, it kind of goes back

870
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: to the foundational concept of switching, Like, Okay, you gotta

871
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: switch on Isaiah Thomas on the perimeter, and you're gonna

872
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: try to score on him. Make him score on you, like,

873
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: make him make a move and shoot over the top

874
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: of you, move your feet, make him earn it. Rejon

875
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: Rondo just so much pointless gambling off the ball that

876
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: like half the time it's like he's he's not even

877
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: making guys score over him. Half the time. It's like

878
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: it's a gamble here, it's a it's an over help there,

879
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's reach around steal here, and guys

880
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: are just getting right past him and getting him getting

881
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: into the lane, and our defense is compromised, Like it's

882
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: it's a concept of positional defense, like there's there's there's

883
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: disruptive defense, and there's positional defense. Like if you're a

884
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: disruptive defender, is so athletically gifted that he can afford

885
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: to gamble without giving away position and over the course

886
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: of the game, it's a huge net positive. But when

887
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: a positional defense is like, I just I know that

888
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: I can't necessarily disrupt this guy, but I'm just going

889
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: to try as best as I can to anticipate where

890
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: he's going. Move my feet, wall up, put my hands up,

891
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: don't foul. Make the dude score over the top of me.

892
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: The best guy we have on the roster with this

893
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: right now is Austin Reeves. But it's like what Austin

894
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Reeves does a really good job is like, hey, if

895
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: you can make a shot over the top of me,

896
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: good for you. But like, I'm not gonna reach, I'm

897
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: not gonna gambled, I'm not gonna get myself out of position.

898
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: You're gonna earn this basket. And he did. He did

899
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: such a good job of that. And Rondo is like

900
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: the antithesis of that. And I'm not Rondo is not

901
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: at fault for us losing tonight, So I'm not blaming

902
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: him by any stretch of the imagination. But as I

903
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: was watching that game, like it's just is one of

904
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: those things that's like a personal basketball pet peeve of mine.

905
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: He just he he is such such a free lay

906
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: and Russ does this a lot too, by the way,

907
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: But but it's just it's such an he's such a

908
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: freelancer that like, like there's the occasional sequence like yeah,

909
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: game two against Denver, dude, he I think it was

910
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: game three, actually game three against Denver. He goes crazy

911
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: and gets like four consecutive steals and goes the other

912
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: way for layups and dunks with Lebron and it's like, man,

913
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: like Jon Rondo, this is incredible. Look at his defense,

914
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: but it's like, in reality, those players were gambles. They

915
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: just happened to pay off, you know what I mean,

916
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: like and and everything. This is why Rondo is so

917
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: hot and cold, and this is why there are so

918
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: many good Rondo games that are juxtaposed with bad Rondo games,

919
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: because he has that same philosophy offensively. Offensively it's high risk,

920
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: high reward passes and and it just I know he

921
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: reins it in to a greater extent when he gets

922
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: to the postseason. Not that he's gonna be, you know,

923
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: playing that role this season, but like just it's like

924
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: nails on a basketball chalkboard to me as a as

925
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: a basketball fan, and I just had to I had

926
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: to get that off my chest. I'm glad you brought

927
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: Rono because something I was thinking about. That's one of

928
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: the reasons I hate the Rondo Westbrook lineups. Both of

929
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: them are like one rotation guys on defense, do you

930
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like once they rotate once, they're

931
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: not like flying back to rotate again. So once they

932
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: like touch the paint, they're both just stand there, you

933
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's a lot of like pointing,

934
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: and you know Rondo does a lot of pointing as

935
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: well on defense. But like Phoenix is a team that

936
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: moves the ball really well. They moved from corner to corner,

937
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: wing to wing. After like the second past, Rondo and

938
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: Russ aren't moving and then you play DeAndre Jordan's with

939
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: that as well. We just have a lot of like

940
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: one rotation, one effort type guys on defense, and it's

941
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: why also I don't think those guys can play, and

942
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: so why guys like Austin Reeves, who I hope we

943
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: get back you know pretty soon here kind of jumps

944
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: off the page as well because he's a multi effort guy, right,

945
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: He's a multi rotator. Like on defense, he'll rotate to

946
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: the corner. If the ball swings to the wing, he wrote,

947
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: to the wing, even if it's not his guy, right,

948
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: the shot clock is going down to just fly and

949
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: rotate even if like someone else is right there. That's

950
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: just stuff that we need. And I saw a little

951
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: bit of that from Jamario Jones. We saw him tonight

952
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: as well. He got a couple of offensive rebounds. I

953
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: thought his energy was nice. Maybe he's a guy we

954
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: can throw into that. But yeah, it's like, I'm glad

955
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: you brought up Rondo there because I feel like that's

956
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: another reason why I hate the Rohndo Westbrook lineups. They

957
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: both rotate once or twice maximum. If the ball swings

958
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: three times, they're not routing to that third. Like if

959
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: their their job is to close up to the wind,

960
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: they'll close up to the wing. And then if the

961
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: ball swings one one more, they won't close out or

962
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: they just stand there and wait for the ball. Right.

963
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: And I've talked about how Russ isn't a box out rebounder,

964
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: so he's a stare, anticipate, and then jump type of rebounder.

965
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: And we give up a lot of offensive rebounds that

966
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: way as well. That's why I don't like those lineups,

967
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: and I hope tonight was the last of the russ

968
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: I t Rondo combination as well. I think we've seen

969
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: enough of that. But yeah, hopefully we can kind of

970
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: get a few more players, get Austin Reaves back for

971
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: the Thursday game, and hopefully picked that one up because

972
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: we need to pick up some wins here. We have

973
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a home schedule coming up,

974
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: especially Santonio coming next, and then obviously then that's on Christmas.

975
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: The San Antonio and Brooklyn games are almost must wins

976
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: now under the circumstances, just in terms of trying to

977
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: float in the standings. Um, what you brought up, this

978
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: will be the last thing we hit on and we'll

979
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: get out of here. Uh. Talking about those extra efforts

980
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: and rotations. I thought there was a really interesting quote.

981
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you saw it, but it was

982
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: from David Fizdale from before the game, talking about trying

983
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: to teach guys not that are not used to being

984
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: devoted to the dirty work, to embrace the dirty work.

985
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Did you happen to see that quote? Yeah, yeah, about

986
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: box outs and all that like you're talking about. So

987
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting because this is something

988
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: that you and I have been hitting on all this

989
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: idea that it all comes down to basketball character, and

990
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: it's something that it's something that I think some of

991
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: the guys have done a better job of embracing than others.

992
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: Like I've actually been really impressed with Carmelo Anthony over

993
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: the course of the season, just getting a lot better

994
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: at that stuff than he used to be. He still

995
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: has a long way to go. But the truth of

996
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: the matter is, and basically what David Fizzel said is

997
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: like a lot of these guys were stars in previous situations,

998
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: and they were in situations where they were able to

999
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: devote the lion's share of their energy towards the you know,

1000
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: offensive roles that they had, and they were typically surrounded

1001
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: by players that did that work for them. Isaiah Thomas

1002
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: is an example of that, Carmelo Anthony is an example

1003
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: of that. Even Region Rondo is an example of that

1004
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. Russell Westbrook is definitely an example

1005
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: of that. All of these guys are are coming from

1006
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: situations where where they were not asked to do those things,

1007
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: and now they're feeling in roles that were previously occupied

1008
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: by players that had that at the top of their

1009
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: list of priorities, you know, namely guys like k C

1010
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: P and Alex Caruso. Kuzuma a little bit more towards

1011
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: the end, although he had his own priorities as we

1012
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: all know. But the truth of the matter is is

1013
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have have been dealing with

1014
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of wake up call on that front,

1015
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: and I think it was something that we, you know,

1016
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: even underestimated how long that would take. Because I think

1017
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: I think they're clearly trending in the right direction, at

1018
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: least the guys that are going to be on the

1019
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: roster in the long run. I think those guys are

1020
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: trending in the in the right direction. But that's a

1021
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: great example of why this team is going to be

1022
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: a little bit easier to evaluate towards the end. If

1023
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis comes back in let's say middle February, and

1024
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: he's healthy and usually typically post officer break, I think

1025
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: there's like about thirty games typically, So so let's say

1026
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: they go in a thirty game run, you know, and

1027
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: all these guys are you know, foundationally different players at

1028
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: that point, you know, like Carmelo Anthony going from being

1029
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: a star to being a role player on a Portland's

1030
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: team that didn't defend anyway. You know, like this team

1031
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: and like as wild as it is, I think I

1032
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: think they were a tenth and defense coming into ten game.

1033
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy, Like that's that's that's in sane under

1034
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: the circumstances. So they are in a in a in

1035
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: a culture where they're being asked to do these things

1036
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: for real, under a coach that demands that of them,

1037
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: And there's a there is an opportunity here that come

1038
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: early April, there's some continuity and some health and some

1039
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: habits that are formed that could make this team very dangerous.

1040
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: The word that our guy Crantes has been using is frisky,

1041
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the way I look at it.

1042
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: Like if you combine frisky with a legitimate playoff run

1043
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: from Lebron who clears it seems to be trending in

1044
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: that direction, and Anthony Davis potentially getting back to his

1045
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: bubble form, this suddenly becomes a team that could be

1046
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: very difficult to beat four times out of seven. And

1047
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: I know I've been trying to bring the optimism over

1048
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: the last couple of days but I genuinely believe that.

1049
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not pulling that out of the there,

1050
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: no for sure on your point on the light and

1051
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: we have a lot of players that were stars before.

1052
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: That's I think Trevor rea'sa you know, fits so well

1053
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: because he's been a role player pretty much his old career.

1054
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: He's been a super role player and he just knows

1055
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: what to do. I agree with all that in a

1056
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: sense and not I'm not trying to be negative here.

1057
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: I just think this is a time where they can't fracture,

1058
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: right like, because this can I know you hit the

1059
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: optimist kind of point there, but I mean this can

1060
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: go bad. Like there's a there's a universe. There's a

1061
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: world where this goes bad, you know what I mean,

1062
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 1: there's a world where the Yeah, there's a world where

1063
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: losses pile up and four or six weeks is not nothing.

1064
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: You know, that's not just a sim sim those games

1065
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: like that's a there's a lot of games back, but

1066
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: I think that's twenty three games if I check there,

1067
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: and that's a lot of games to try to make up.

1068
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: Like even going five hundred in that time would keep

1069
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: us at five hundred, right, because we are five hundred

1070
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: right now. I think we're like six. Uh. I don't

1071
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: know our exact record, but I believe tonight I made

1072
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: us five hundred again. So we go five hundred in

1073
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: this stretch, we'll still be five hundred at that time.

1074
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: And obviously the West isn't as great as it was

1075
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: the last few years, but I still think there's going

1076
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: to be a lot to kind of push and you

1077
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: never want to be in the play in. Obviously the

1078
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: Warriors can kind of tell you that about last year.

1079
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: So I agree there's optimists and hopefully when a d

1080
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: comes back, he can fit right back in. I just

1081
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: think like this next few games and this next like

1082
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: week or so is very important because they need to

1083
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: pick up wins. You can't just fall on the face

1084
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: of year. They keep screaming process because they need wins

1085
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: right now, like they they've they've thrown all their banked

1086
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: wins away, like losing Okay, see earlier in the year,

1087
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: flowing twenty point leads eurn the year. That costs you

1088
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: this time with any kind of margin for error. I guess,

1089
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: like that's my thing here. There's no margin for error here,

1090
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: Like we can't just drop four or five games, uh,

1091
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: and drop back. So that's kind of I agree with you.

1092
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: That's still you know, positives. Lebron looking like Lebron, I

1093
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: think is the top of the key on all this,

1094
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: Like Lebron looking like himself uh and m VP candidate,

1095
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff is important and hopefully a D can

1096
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: kind of come back on his time, come back healthy,

1097
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: come back rejuvenated right with a sense of urgency and

1098
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: energy and know more of this like lethargic kind of

1099
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: play that he's been at. And he still had the numbers.

1100
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Obviously numbers are great. It's just on the floor doesn't

1101
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: look as a D as a D standards right for

1102
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: other players maybe, But but yeah, I just think like

1103
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: this is an important time here where it could fracture

1104
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: or they can kind of come together and get a

1105
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: few wins here, and I think it's important. Yeah. I

1106
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: think it's going to be about winning the games that

1107
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: they're supposed to win most of them. Like you can

1108
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: you can go into the locker room tonight if you're

1109
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers, and you can look each other in the

1110
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: face and be like, hey, like we competed. Those are

1111
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: the things. Those are the phoenix suns. That's what we're

1112
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: trying to get, and we know we can't get there

1113
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: until we're all healthy anyway. Hey, but we competed, you know,

1114
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: and you can even kind of do the same thing

1115
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: with Chicago because as decimated as they were, they weren't

1116
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: nearly as decimated as we were. And uh and even then,

1117
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: like you put it, could have very easily won that

1118
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: game if Tomato Rosen doesn't make every mid range jump

1119
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: shott he takes at the end of the game. So

1120
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: like there's some silver LIFs Thursday. If you lose the

1121
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: San Antonio You're right, that could be a fracture moment.

1122
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: So it's like, I hope it'll be really interesting to

1123
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: see in San Antonio. Like you said, it's been playing

1124
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: well lately, so so that's that game where it's like,

1125
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: that'll be an interesting read on the Walker room and

1126
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: them them coming out and beating San Antonio would tell

1127
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: us a lot about where this team is in their

1128
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: in their headspace. Um, but did you have anything else

1129
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: you want to hear on tonight? I think that was

1130
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: I think that was it. Yeah, Jamara, I think I

1131
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: got I went to Jamario Jones already. Hopefully he played

1132
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: the next game. Man, I think we need some just

1133
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: play hard rebounders. I thought he looked good in his

1134
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: minutes late, but it's tough for him to come in

1135
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: down down twenty and Jay Huff survived right, survived the cuts,

1136
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: so hopefully he can kind of show what he has.

1137
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, if we would get a win, man, Santonio

1138
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: just blew out the Clippers. I think who got Paul

1139
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: George back on the road. They blew them out by

1140
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: twenty the other games, so they'll be they'll be ready. Man,

1141
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: They're good. Deante Murray I think is legit, so they

1142
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: have to be ready to kind of play for that one. Yeah,

1143
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a winnable game, but it's a challenge. It'll

1144
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: be a Sean al right, guys, thank you so much

1145
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: for coming to hang out. This is gonna be on

1146
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Dash Radio tomorrow morning at seven am Pacific Standard time

1147
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: and will be on our podcast feed here in about

1148
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: a half hour. As always, real appreciate your support. I'll

1149
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: have some something coming out tomorrow and then we'll have

1150
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: our typical post games show on Thursday. And enjoy the

1151
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: rest of your night and we'll see you guys in

1152
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: a couple of days, happy holidays, Thanks everyone,