Speaker 1: Call Zone Media. Okay, hmm yeah, what a what a
Speaker 1: boring weekend?
Speaker 2: Am I? Right? H nothing? Wow? Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: What would have been me sitting down, as is my practice,
Speaker 1: to just record on Mondays to stay ahead of the game.
Speaker 1: Would be just me sitting here to record an episode
Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court changes, which will clearly come in
Speaker 1: play in a second. I am now recording a re
Speaker 1: introduction to this show because of some breaking head ass news.
Speaker 1: Apparently Trump is now confersd sing fifty cent songs.
Speaker 2: Many men they don't the little white boy took the shot.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I was cracking funny on the internet,
Speaker 1: but I tell you what I mean.
Speaker 2: People was even sending me screenshots.
Speaker 1: Black people's first thought was, I hope the shooter ain't black.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't understand what we have gone through in this country.
Speaker 1: I just hope the shooter ain't black. That's just please
Speaker 1: don't be black. My own boy Fi Sean was like,
Speaker 1: I just hope he ain't Muslim, you know, And it's
Speaker 1: just like y'all don't understand. It's and since he a
Speaker 1: little white boy, we're gonna watch y'all just take care
Speaker 1: of this boy with some soft gloves. Anyway, all that
Speaker 1: to say, I'm was still run this episode about the
Speaker 1: one you were about to hear about the Democrats trying
Speaker 1: to change their headliner and how you know you're just
Speaker 1: It's not as easy as switching out Broken Leg Beyonce
Speaker 1: with Solange, because we love Solange, but she's just not Bae. Now,
Speaker 1: if I bought tickets to see Solange, that'd be different.
Speaker 1: I'd be excited about that, But I bought tickets to
Speaker 1: see back. But do I really want to see Broken
Speaker 1: Leg not dancing, missed the step for got lyrics, Bae,
Speaker 1: No fam, I'm gonna want my money back unless Bay says, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step down from this because I know I'm not.
Speaker 2: Well, here's who I'm handing this show to.
Speaker 1: Don't you think that will push her queendom even further
Speaker 1: into the stratosphere That she was even humble enough to
Speaker 1: step down when she needed to, and she passed a
Speaker 1: baton to one of these young shooters, one of these
Speaker 1: young ladies to become the new queen.
Speaker 2: But if she was too just.
Speaker 1: Too prideful to like walk away from it, wonder what
Speaker 1: that would do for her legacy anyway, that's what you're
Speaker 1: about to hear. So listen to that intro and then
Speaker 1: I'm come back into It's like this, and we're gonna good.
Speaker 2: Lord Almighty, we're gonna talk.
Speaker 1: I'm recording this episode running the risk that it's going
Speaker 1: to be completely outdated by the time it comes out,
Speaker 1: but I want to go on record saying this is
Speaker 1: July eighth, and I'm trying to put y'all on game
Speaker 1: about it. I'm gonna try to pick people from various
Speaker 1: genres and eras to try to prove this point, and
Speaker 1: I think as I build up these examples, you'll understand
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make. Do you know who
Speaker 1: Dice row is? Okay, Murphy Lee? Do you know who
Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks is? How about Earl Sweatshirt? Do you know who?
Speaker 1: How about party next Door? Do you know who? I'll
Speaker 1: give you an easy one. You know who Kelly Rowland is?
Speaker 1: Y'all know Isaiah Rashad. Maybe I can do some sports ones.
Speaker 1: Y'all know who all y'all who knows sports? This might
Speaker 1: be easy for you, but that is my point. Do
Speaker 1: you know who Robert Oriy is? Shane Battier a little
Speaker 1: more current D'Angelo Russell. All these people have something in
Speaker 1: common that will become much more abundantly clear later. These
Speaker 1: people I'm mentioning are incredibly talented. But before I bring
Speaker 1: that in, I want to take y'all back to Camp
Speaker 1: Flognaw in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Because of current moments in culture, this may not hit
Speaker 1: the way it would have if we were having this
Speaker 1: discussion in like January or February, but we're not, so
Speaker 1: just stick with me. You have to go back to
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen now. Camp Vlagnaw is a California music festival
Speaker 1: put on by Tyler the creator and in connection with
Speaker 1: like the Odd Future crew that he's a part of. Now,
Speaker 1: you may or may not know, but one of the
Speaker 1: persons I brought up.
Speaker 2: Earlier is a member of Odd Future. This is Earl Sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: Earl Sweatshirt is an incredible artist, Stephen Lacey. I wish
Speaker 1: I knew he's a part of Odd Future. These are
Speaker 1: all members of this amazing, amazing collective. Now, I would
Speaker 1: venture to say that even with Stephen Lacy's moment in culture,
Speaker 1: and I don't say moment in the sense of minimizing it,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying it in the sense of it's new
Speaker 1: right that he's very much poised to be if everything
Speaker 1: goes well, the next sort of wave to come out
Speaker 1: of that collective that we all knew was started by Tyler, Right.
Speaker 1: Tyler was the leader of this movement of artists and
Speaker 1: has given us a number of music, one for which
Speaker 1: is going to be the subject of this example. Now,
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, Vlognaw sells thousands and thousands, tens of
Speaker 1: thousands of tickets to this festival that he puts on.
Speaker 1: But this year the headliner was a surprise. In twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: and most people were hoping, believing, praying that the headliner
Speaker 1: would be another member of odd future, Frank Ocean. Now
Speaker 1: maybe you may or may not know, Frank Ocean is.
Speaker 2: A part of this collective.
Speaker 1: And my point about Stephen Lacy is, should everything go well,
Speaker 1: it's not that he could be the next Frank Ocean,
Speaker 1: but he could be the next wave you know of
Speaker 1: the type of stardom that Frank has given us from
Speaker 1: the same collective, and it's Stephen Lacey's a very talented
Speaker 1: young man. Now, Tyler and Frank Ocean have their own
Speaker 1: individual star power, which is a testament to how good
Speaker 1: of a leader Tyler is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're crew.
Speaker 1: So the people kind of whipped themselves up into a
Speaker 1: frenzy as to believing that because Frank ain't popped out
Speaker 1: in a while and because of their relationship, and this
Speaker 1: was the expectation. Essentially, even without anybody telling them that
Speaker 1: it was official or not, these people bought tickets to
Speaker 1: see Frank Ocean. This is what I signed up for.
Speaker 1: It was a surprise, but this is what I signed
Speaker 1: up for. And there's no way Tyler didn't know. Right now,
Speaker 1: as the festival goes on, I mean, Staples is that, like,
Speaker 1: it was just the most amazing, amazing thing, incredible, incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible festival.
Speaker 2: And when the.
Speaker 1: Headliner finally pops out, it was none other than the
Speaker 1: Canadian boy Drake. Now, this is twenty nineteen Drake. Okay,
Speaker 1: this isn't twenty twenty four Drake, who is now Jah rule?
Speaker 1: This is two thousand nineteen Drake, the top of the world, Okay.
Speaker 1: And the crowd booed him and they listen, listen, this
Speaker 1: is pre Kendrick destruction. Like you have to remember this
Speaker 1: top of the world, Drake, This is an onna. This
Speaker 1: is can't lose hit after hit after hit. Drake, this
Speaker 1: is untouchable. This is stratosphere Drake. They booed him and
Speaker 1: they boot him, partially because it's not that Drake isn't
Speaker 1: that guy, it's they wanted Frank right.
Speaker 2: And the lesson to.
Speaker 1: Anybody, even though you didn't even announce it, the lesson
Speaker 1: to anyone is you can't just switch headliners. And I
Speaker 1: don't care how dysfunctional your headliner is, you can't just
Speaker 1: switch them out.
Speaker 2: It's really not that easy.
Speaker 1: We have to figure out what the Democrats are going
Speaker 1: to do hood politics, y'all. All right, welcome back. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I said, what, I can't tell the future.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they actually did, but I do
Speaker 1: want to talk about this as a strategy. So depending
Speaker 1: on what happened, either take this as I told y'all,
Speaker 1: or this must be how they thought about it.
Speaker 2: But before I get into that, it like.
Speaker 1: This bull look is like this.
Speaker 2: Bull look is like this, well, look it's like this.
Speaker 2: Somebody then shot at Trump a.
Speaker 1: Real deal, whole, actual factual assassin attempt. Now, I'm sure
Speaker 1: at this moment in time, there is no particulars you
Speaker 1: not necessarily familiar with. And probably because I'm recording this
Speaker 1: a few days before this comes out, there's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be some new information that I, as right now don't know,
Speaker 1: But I tell you what, there are things to consider
Speaker 1: that have to do with political science, street politics that
Speaker 1: I think could help you interpret this moment right now.
Speaker 2: Let's first talk about the political science.
Speaker 1: Remember that our presidents have been assassinated before, notwithstanding the
Speaker 1: attempt to take out Reagan, you know, which some would
Speaker 1: argue shot him into the stratosphere. But point being, first
Speaker 1: thing you need to understand is that political violence is
Speaker 1: as old as politics itself. It's always been there. We
Speaker 1: are not in a particular moment that has not been
Speaker 1: deep thoroughly researched. That there are decades, multiple thousands of
Speaker 1: pages of research about the moment America's in right now
Speaker 1: and how you get to these moments, and there's examples everywhere,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't obviously, it doesn't happen overnight. These staunch
Speaker 1: political divisions that we have have been usually and historically
Speaker 1: stoked by some sort of autocrat, right wing or left
Speaker 1: wing that usually comes from a financial instability or a
Speaker 1: deep seated feeling of superiority towards another group, a group
Speaker 1: that had been vilified. Now in everybody of research, when
Speaker 1: at least in Western countries, in western white countries, your
Speaker 1: first sign that you got a problem is bored, young,
Speaker 1: disenfranchised white boys.
Speaker 2: This is just what the research shows.
Speaker 1: Do you know when America started the Boys Out of America,
Speaker 1: the YMCA, and of course all of these things are
Speaker 1: boys and girls club, right, that used to be called
Speaker 1: the boys club. These come, These came from a body
Speaker 1: of research in nineteen nineteen that was saying boys are
Speaker 1: bored and they're getting into mischief and they don't know
Speaker 1: how to have character. No more white boys. Just I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, this is just our history. White boys begetting radicalized.
Speaker 1: This is I'm talking about again, white dominant Western countries,
Speaker 1: Nazi movement.
Speaker 2: Y'all know.
Speaker 1: Look, it was just bored, angry, disenfranchised white boys. This
Speaker 1: is what happens, man, Them little white boys get bored
Speaker 1: and riled up. It's just it's Look, this is the research.
Speaker 1: The economic wealth gap, the feeling of being left out
Speaker 1: from you know, society. A society moves on and becomes
Speaker 1: more equal. When did Kennedy gets shot? When was Malcolm
Speaker 1: X's shot. When was Martin Luther King shot when we
Speaker 1: were reaching I just look, I don't and listen. All
Speaker 1: over the world, no political wing has cornered the market
Speaker 1: on stoking or receiving or being both A and B
Speaker 1: on political violence assassinations.
Speaker 2: Nobody's got a corner on this.
Speaker 1: But I will say this authoritarianism and lead those that
Speaker 1: lead to it have a higher chance of these moments
Speaker 1: happening in their culture. That's just I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: the research. Man. You can look at the work of
Speaker 1: Robert Putnam, he talks about these particular things. You can
Speaker 1: look at the work of Daniel Ziebat and Stephen Levinsky.
Speaker 1: They're the authors of this book called How Democracies Die
Speaker 1: in Tyranny of the Minority, which is.
Speaker 2: A whole other talk.
Speaker 1: We need to talk about that, like how some of
Speaker 1: this stuff gets ratcheted up, but essentially, like the tyranny
Speaker 1: of the minority is the idea that like keep in mind,
Speaker 1: Trump has never won the popular vote. He's never actually
Speaker 1: we never actually chose him. It was always through the
Speaker 1: electoral college in our House.
Speaker 2: And in our Senate.
Speaker 1: These extremely right wing policies that have been passed really
Speaker 1: only represent thirty percent of our population, and they're the
Speaker 1: ones running things, the courts, So it's a minority of
Speaker 1: the people, right, Because the reality is this, people really
Speaker 1: don't like Donald Trump the numbers game, He's deeply unliked.
Speaker 1: But the oversized power and authority to push their choices
Speaker 1: onto people's the tyranny of the minority.
Speaker 2: Now keep in mind, I'm gonna keep it real.
Speaker 1: That's the way the right felt during the eighties and
Speaker 1: nineties when we was passing stuff like I don't know,
Speaker 1: quality stuff, right. So the point I'm trying to make
Speaker 1: is that's one way to think about how a country
Speaker 1: gets here. There is an actual index that rates countries
Speaker 1: democracies in terms of their health. Now, granted, I mean,
Speaker 1: how exact can this science be, but it's the tools
Speaker 1: we use to be able to rubric if we wield
Speaker 1: to be like, yo, are we own or not?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And you score it on a scale of one to
Speaker 1: one hundred. Now our score dropped about ten points recently.
Speaker 1: The points the points scale, it's silly and arbitrary. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm bringing up. What I'm bringing up is
Speaker 1: what these experts who study democracies around the world try
Speaker 1: to tell you is signs of warning, signs signs of unhealth,
Speaker 1: one of which is the peaceful transfer of power and
Speaker 1: the lack of confidence in your electoral process. When people
Speaker 1: feel like their choices aren't heard, When people feel like
Speaker 1: their elections aren't protected or safe. When you question the
Speaker 1: legitimacy of the entire institution, your institution is probably on
Speaker 1: the verge of falling. Our democracy is unwell. Now, your
Speaker 1: boy is not an institutionalist. I wrote a whole book
Speaker 1: called terror Form, which has to do it like tearing
Speaker 1: the old shit down and starting over. So I'm not
Speaker 1: an institutionalist, but I'm a realist. And honestly, black people,
Speaker 1: people of colored since day one, was trying to tell y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all building this shaky, this likes this is not well.
Speaker 1: Like y'all not well, and you have not been willing
Speaker 1: to go back and fix the problems. You just you're
Speaker 1: like silly landlords to just rather than fixing holes, you
Speaker 1: just paint over them like you can't just.
Speaker 2: It's all bad. And when empires start.
Speaker 1: Falling, they grab onto the one guy that says, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it, I got it. I'll fix it because
Speaker 1: it makes you feel safe. And what he got to
Speaker 1: do to do that is he got to create enemies
Speaker 1: out of everybody else. This is gonna make violence. I
Speaker 1: just don't want us to tell you now. Switching my
Speaker 1: hat from a geopolitical teacher to a tour guy through
Speaker 1: the hood fam, it's the same.
Speaker 2: Bruh. You can't y'all ratcheted up to talk. Y'all was
Speaker 2: talking that talk. You y'all talk to gang talk.
Speaker 1: You talk like you not civilians, like you got them
Speaker 1: things and you ready to shoot, and you when you
Speaker 1: stand on business, and when you stand on business, somebody
Speaker 1: gonna test your jaw. If I feel like you messing
Speaker 1: up the game, you ruin in the plays were trying
Speaker 1: to run. If I feel like you fraudulent in a
Speaker 1: certain way, I feel like you putting the block in danger. Listen,
Speaker 1: Blame is not the discussion. And we not talking about blaming,
Speaker 1: because who do you blame when the gang start Like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean blame? This goes back too far.
Speaker 1: There's too many grievances. Everybody's said things that they weren't
Speaker 1: supposed to be said. Now, when you get somebody that's
Speaker 1: really talking that tough talk, it's what I just don't
Speaker 1: understand what you understand. You can't talk that tough talk.
Speaker 1: When you talk that tough talk, somebody gonna think you
Speaker 1: a tough guy. And if you a tough guy, shake
Speaker 1: it off.
Speaker 2: You'll be all right.
Speaker 1: And the words of camraon niggas get shot every day,
Speaker 1: you tough, right, you be all right. It's just this
Speaker 1: is just what be happening. Everybody talk like this the
Speaker 1: end of the world. If we don't fix it, well,
Speaker 1: somebody gonna try to fix it.
Speaker 2: Now. It feels very.
Speaker 1: Special right now because it's been it's been decades, unless
Speaker 1: you count Nagcy Pelosi's husband, right, but either way, it's
Speaker 1: just been a long time since something like this happened.
Speaker 1: And lucky for Trump grazed his ear and now he
Speaker 1: gets to again sing fifty cent songs many men, you know,
Speaker 1: he gets to make his old his full get rich
Speaker 1: or die drying record with his mouth kind of wired
Speaker 1: shut a little bit because he got shot in the mouth.
Speaker 1: You feel me like y'all. He's turned this man into
Speaker 1: a superhero bro As of right now, the conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: like I said on the social media's, are about to
Speaker 1: be outlandish now in a world where AI abounds and
Speaker 1: deep fakes and misinformation. Y'all gotta slow, y'all roll, Keep
Speaker 1: your theories to your group text because you don't want
Speaker 1: sounds super dumb or cause another shooting because you out
Speaker 1: here spouting off stuff. You don't know what you're talking
Speaker 1: about anyway you feel me, So that's the game I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you right there, like keep.
Speaker 2: Your little keep your little conspira, keep keep it to
Speaker 2: the group text.
Speaker 1: Send the memes to the group text you feel me
Speaker 1: right or directly to me because I listen, I'm black.
Speaker 2: I'll be laughing at pain. I get it. We crack jokes.
Speaker 2: You understand how we process stuff.
Speaker 1: I highly suggest that you keep your head about you
Speaker 1: about these conspiracy theories. Next thing I say is about
Speaker 1: Trump's instincts that fools Antennas to be like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw my fist up right now with the blood streaking
Speaker 1: down my ears, like demand nobody know TV better than
Speaker 1: this man.
Speaker 2: I'd like it. Listen.
Speaker 1: Remember I told y'all, if he was able to shake
Speaker 1: off these things, I would have to be like, you
Speaker 1: know what respect do? And I mean he was in
Speaker 1: the middle of shaking off all the all types of
Speaker 1: acceptance of repercussions. He was finished shake off all of
Speaker 1: repercussions for his fraudulent false choices, one of which comes
Speaker 1: in play right now. So let's just pretend like Biden
Speaker 1: was about that life and called for this shooting. As
Speaker 1: of last week, he would be immune anyway, because as
Speaker 1: an official presidential act that's covered in privilege, you can't
Speaker 1: even bring no evidence in according to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: Look like my mama say, don't write a check with
Speaker 1: your mouth. Your booty can't cash you love. Listen, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, this is the law that y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all just passed.
Speaker 1: The law just now for a type of immunity that's
Speaker 1: covered under the executive branch.
Speaker 2: So what you do official acts?
Speaker 1: And Chief Justice Soda Mayor told y'all that you green
Speaker 1: lighten people.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying obviously, I'm not saying Joe did this.
Speaker 1: No. I love my share of conspiracy theories, but I
Speaker 1: tell you what, this one would be lame. I like
Speaker 1: the idea of people saying it was stage it kind
Speaker 1: of like, okay, this is what I mean. Like, like,
Speaker 1: y'aslo keep that in your group text. Maybe have your
Speaker 1: little angles and do your thing. But all I'm saying
Speaker 1: is tie the politics together. Thanks to the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: even if it was Joe, because of your work, you
Speaker 1: couldn't prosecute him anyway. Yeah, good going, bro, Next time
Speaker 1: think about your actions, right, sird. Anyway, as of the
Speaker 1: time you hearing this, Trump then already stood up in
Speaker 1: the RNC and got his crown. Unless another shooter don't miss,
Speaker 1: then that's probably what's happening in two days ago from
Speaker 1: the day that this dropped. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, there's no other there's no other way to
Speaker 1: explain this that Like, one, this might have sealed the
Speaker 1: deal for him to be in office. Two, well, now
Speaker 1: none of his crimes matter in the eyes of the public,
Speaker 1: which is why a lot of people think this might
Speaker 1: have mistakes. And three, we need to brace ourselves for
Speaker 1: the wildest of the next five years. Part of why
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident that we're gonna have another four
Speaker 1: years of this man is because of the rest of
Speaker 1: the episode.
Speaker 2: You about to eat bull gets like bully gets like this.
Speaker 1: All right now, overall, there's a there's a point I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make here, and then I'm gonna talk about, uh who,
Speaker 1: at least as of this moment July eighth, who the
Speaker 1: Democrats are thinking about, and then what strategy I would
Speaker 1: deploy if it was like, we're not gonna we're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to switch out this headliner, headliner being
Speaker 1: if you ain't figured it out, Joe Biden. But back
Speaker 1: to this camp flognaw thing. Tyler holds such a special
Speaker 1: place in hip hop and specifically la and hip hop
Speaker 1: in the sense that like this, like nerd rap is
Speaker 1: a thing, right, that's your like logics of the world,
Speaker 1: but his nerd rap is a.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say it except that it's
Speaker 2: it's white, like it's just I don't know how to
Speaker 2: explain it.
Speaker 1: Tyler comes from a left of center, but he's very
Speaker 1: West Coast. It's very creative, it's he's a brilliant artist,
Speaker 1: but he's also like like your nigga, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but yeh nigga in a sense that, like
Speaker 1: most of Los Angeles is where we're not all meet
Speaker 1: the whoops, which was why it was so beautiful that
Speaker 1: they included Tyler and Stephen Lacy at the PopOut.
Speaker 2: I'll remember again Stephen Lacy from Compton, So it.
Speaker 1: Was very important that these types of other sides of
Speaker 1: California were also represented. And to give this man his flowers,
Speaker 1: Tyler been putting on for La for a long long time,
Speaker 1: and let me take a moment to give my boy
Speaker 1: mersus flowers who used to run Paid Dues, who put
Speaker 1: odd future on the Pay Dues Festival, which actually helped
Speaker 1: push them forward. So the lineage is beautiful and out
Speaker 1: of that collective, like I said, you have Comedy Central songs,
Speaker 1: you have one of the Despicable Me tracks, right, and
Speaker 1: you have a person mentioned earlier, Earl Sweatshirt, a person
Speaker 1: mentioned a group, a group called the Internet.
Speaker 2: You have sid you have.
Speaker 1: Taco, you have Frank Ocean, you have Stephen Lacy. Tyler
Speaker 1: has made this collective that has drawn in this world
Speaker 1: of like artists, kids like weirdo kids. So that's why
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not necessarily nerd, it's just weirdo.
Speaker 1: Like we're just not just the not popular as in
Speaker 1: pop culture, but not gangbanging, but we just we like
Speaker 1: what we like. And the crowd reception of Tyler and
Speaker 1: Stephen at the pop out was proof that, like most
Speaker 1: of us are like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in Tyler's mind it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: He's like and even rapped about it before, and then
Speaker 1: he tweeted about it the next day how he was
Speaker 1: embarrassed how the crowd treated Drake. He was like, I thought,
Speaker 1: if I broke bread to bring in the biggest artist
Speaker 1: in the world, that y'all would be cool about it.
Speaker 1: But y'all embarrassed me, straight booing this man from the stage.
Speaker 1: But them kids don't care. It didn't matter the stratosphere ability,
Speaker 1: and of course everybody calmed down as the show went on,
Speaker 1: But the stratosphere ability.
Speaker 2: Of the artists made no difference.
Speaker 1: If we signed up for Frank Ocean, you signed up
Speaker 1: for Frank Ocean. Now, I'm gonna go back into the
Speaker 1: examples I gave you before. Kelly Rowland was a member
Speaker 1: of Destiny's Child. Now, if you bought the Beyonce tickets
Speaker 1: and Beyonce got sick, are you trying to see Kelly
Speaker 1: Rowland show?
Speaker 2: Now? Does that have.
Speaker 1: Any bearing on whether Kelly Rowland is an incredibly talented
Speaker 1: artist with hits all her own. It makes no bearing
Speaker 1: of it. We signed up for Beyonce. What if Beyonce
Speaker 1: broke her leg. You gonna you're gonna take broke What
Speaker 1: if Beyonce was eighty nine years old, you gonna take
Speaker 1: you gonna take a broke Beyonce?
Speaker 2: Right, so.
Speaker 1: I mentioned earl sweatshirt. If you bought a Tyler the
Speaker 1: Creator ticket and Tyler got laryngitis, do you cancel the
Speaker 1: show or do you bring in earl sweatshirt? It's not
Speaker 1: that easy, is the point I'm trying to make. Murphy
Speaker 1: Lee was a member of the same Lunatics. So if
Speaker 1: you wanted to see Nelly, you're gonna settle for Murphy
Speaker 1: Lee Dicera as a member of the Roots. You want
Speaker 1: to see you going to the Roots picnic and black
Speaker 1: Thought isn't feeling well. If you're the promoter, do you
Speaker 1: cancel the show? If you're looking at if you went
Speaker 1: to the rehearsals and you saw your headliner, you saw
Speaker 1: you saw beyond. You saw her struggle through her routines,
Speaker 1: you barely get her words out, You saw her mess
Speaker 1: up song lyrics. Now, obviously I can't see this ever happening,
Speaker 1: but just follow my example. You see that like she
Speaker 1: ain't got this, she don't how to step sheet. But
Speaker 1: you done, already sold all the tickets, her posts, her
Speaker 1: name on every poster. You done bought the billboards, You
Speaker 1: done bought the commercial spots. I brought up Isaiah Rashad,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Rashad's and member of TDE. He was one of
Speaker 1: the first acts that they signed after Black Hippie was
Speaker 1: all signed. He was one of the first ones they
Speaker 1: added to the roster. He fit perfectly. But if you
Speaker 1: bought a Kendrick Lamar ticket, do you want to see
Speaker 1: Isaiah Rashad? Does that mean he's not talented? It has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with his talent. It means it's not
Speaker 1: what we signed up for. And even if Kendrick had
Speaker 1: lost his mind, you bought a Kendrick ticket. Now, if
Speaker 1: you're the promoter, a lot is riding on this. You
Speaker 1: can't just switch out headliners. I have been on a
Speaker 1: tour where the supporting act got switched out the week before.
Speaker 2: With someone who I would argue is of equal or.
Speaker 1: Might be greater talent. That it matters now y'all signed
Speaker 1: up for. It just causes chaos. So what do you
Speaker 1: do if you're the promoter? Because it's not that simple.
Speaker 1: You can't just switch the headliner as you as the buyer,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking these questions. If you're the buyer,
Speaker 1: you bought a ticket to see Beyonce, and if Beyonce
Speaker 1: is not coming, and they just add some are you
Speaker 1: still gonna go to the concert? He's like, gosh, man,
Speaker 1: my three hundred dollars, but you spend your three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars to see her. What you probably gonna do.
Speaker 2: Is sit it out. And I don't know who you
Speaker 2: could possibly put in her place? And again, do you
Speaker 2: have to go? How do you go higher? Like if
Speaker 2: we're talking like who's higher than who's higher than Beyonce?
Speaker 2: Like what do you do? Your hope is to get
Speaker 2: somebody younger? What do you do?
Speaker 1: And I say this to say this is the position
Speaker 1: that the Democratic Party finds their self in now. To
Speaker 1: keep this metaphor going is to say that you knew
Speaker 1: good and well Beyonce wasn't ready for this tour. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if it was that, and but if
Speaker 1: she was insistent, like I'm doing this, but all of
Speaker 1: us can tell huh, Like let's just say this is
Speaker 1: twenty thirty four, Beyonce, I don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like she don't. I'm just the point I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make is it's very obvious that she's Queen
Speaker 1: Bay and nobody taking that from her. It's just maybe
Speaker 1: maybe this ain't Joe moment.
Speaker 2: I but what are you gonna do? Well? Joe Biden
Speaker 2: had a.
Speaker 1: Abysmal performance at the first debate. Now, when I say performance,
Speaker 1: I say that word on purpose because okay, now here's
Speaker 1: your here's your here's your political theory. Here. In a
Speaker 1: lot of countries you have a lot of like modern democracies,
Speaker 1: you have a president and a prime minister. Right, the
Speaker 1: president is more figurehead. The prime minister does the work, right,
Speaker 1: the actual running of a government, President prime minister. In
Speaker 1: the UK you have the Queen, well now the king
Speaker 1: and then the prime minister. The prime minister does the work.
Speaker 1: These are two different people. What's unique about America is
Speaker 1: and other countries that are like this, they are those
Speaker 1: two roles are one person. You are the figurehead and
Speaker 1: the administrator. You have to be able to do both.
Speaker 1: It's the equivalent to the think of like the guitar whiz,
Speaker 1: the musician, the band that just loves music so much
Speaker 1: that when you go see them play. They're really not
Speaker 1: paying you no attention. They're actually enjoying themselves. The performer
Speaker 1: that turns their back and it's just like vibing with
Speaker 1: the band. I mean, it's cool, it sounds amazing, it's
Speaker 1: technically sounds amazing, But was it a good show? Because
Speaker 1: it's like I wasn't a part of it. I'm not
Speaker 1: a part of it. You're not even paying me any attention.
Speaker 1: The crowds just the crowd could be there or not there.
Speaker 1: You just love the music, which, if you're into that,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Then on the other hand, you have a
Speaker 1: person who's remarkably entertaining. If you ask a Latina that
Speaker 1: you're j LO, there's a civil war among Latin women
Speaker 1: about how they feel about j LO. You either love
Speaker 1: her or hate her. I'm gonna argue which part of
Speaker 1: the Latin community is. It depends on if Selena is
Speaker 1: your patent saint, because if Selena is your patron saint,
Speaker 1: then you're sort of offended that JLO played her.
Speaker 2: Out of anyway.
Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to bake is it's no secret
Speaker 1: that Jennifer Lopez don't have the greatest voice, but she
Speaker 1: is a remarkable performer. She's an incredible entertainer. There's no
Speaker 1: other way around it. She's an incredible entertainer. It's a
Speaker 1: pretty mid singer. It's just apparently I'm learning now that
Speaker 1: that's the Alicia Keyes story. I felt like she was
Speaker 1: a great singer.
Speaker 2: But how what do I know? Anyway?
Speaker 1: The point is in America, you have to be able
Speaker 1: to do both. You have to be a great musician
Speaker 1: and a great performer in terms of following my metaphor
Speaker 1: in terms of being the president. So Biden's performance had
Speaker 1: very little to do. That's why I say performance as
Speaker 1: very little dude with the substance of what he was
Speaker 1: trying to say. Now, this is not me again, I've
Speaker 1: said it many times. It's not me being a Biden
Speaker 1: stand This is me saying that in a lot of times,
Speaker 1: in a lot of scenarios, I got what he was
Speaker 1: trying to say because of his track record of like ups.
Speaker 2: And downs and goods and bads and.
Speaker 1: Abysmal policies and also incredible policies that have benefited our
Speaker 1: country in ways that no one and especially him, has
Speaker 1: been able to articulate. He couldn't get the words out.
Speaker 1: The problem is you have to be able to do both.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to actually know the policy
Speaker 1: and perform. Which is why my argument between the two
Speaker 1: of Trump and Biden is Donald Trump's an incredible performer.
Speaker 1: He just don't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: Or when he is talking. He lied like.
Speaker 1: Your policies are trash, even the ones that are that
Speaker 1: you're gloating as wins, like that's the inflation you talking about,
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: Because of your policies.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, if you're gonna get into the
Speaker 1: weeds of the policies, Trump can articulate bad policies. Well,
Speaker 1: now having said that about old Trumpy, I am calling
Speaker 1: some of these bad policies only because I disagree with him.
Speaker 1: They may not necessarily be air quotes bad. I just
Speaker 1: don't agree with that direction.
Speaker 2: So let me just say that. And then some of
Speaker 2: the stuff is like I don't know, gee, you lost
Speaker 2: your mind.
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to do both. Why was Barack
Speaker 1: Obama what he was was because he could do both.
Speaker 1: Now I have some strong issues with a good number
Speaker 1: of his policies, of course, but he carried the position, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta get you one to do both. It is
Speaker 1: abundantly clear to the Democratic Party that mister Biden can't
Speaker 1: do both right now. As a matter of fact, according
Speaker 1: to the people that ain't willing to say it with
Speaker 1: their whole chest, people going off record, people not willing
Speaker 1: to stand on business, they saying it with part of
Speaker 1: their chess is that he's getting less and less lucid
Speaker 1: as time goes on. And these people are afraid of
Speaker 1: saying it out loud, but they all whispering it. There's
Speaker 1: been about four people that have said it out loud
Speaker 1: that it's like, I think it's time for us to
Speaker 1: switch our headline. And I hope they're saying it understanding
Speaker 1: the risk that that is a risk that's very obvious
Speaker 1: to you who's listening, which is, how do you convince
Speaker 1: people who already purchase their ticket to not just sit
Speaker 1: it out because it looks like you don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Who do you put in place that
Speaker 1: makes people that have already bought their ticket soonoper excited
Speaker 1: about the person you bringing in, which is why I
Speaker 1: bring up Dice Raw.
Speaker 2: That's an incredible rapper.
Speaker 1: He's not black thought, But you have to convince people
Speaker 1: that only know the roots based on Jimmy fallon that
Speaker 1: Dice raws you'll do. You have to convince people that
Speaker 1: Murphy Lee can rap his tail. You have to convince
Speaker 1: people that Lloyd Banks can wrap his tail off because
Speaker 1: fifty cent is too drunk to perform. Oh yeah, because
Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks was a member of g Unit. So you
Speaker 1: have to convince them. I know, because I love hip hop,
Speaker 1: but I also know most of y'all don't know.
Speaker 2: So who do you bring? You need somebody that is half.
Speaker 1: Joe's age, understands the policy and has a big enough
Speaker 1: back to put the country on their shoulders in this situation.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows if it's really enough, If the disgust and
Speaker 1: the fear of another four years of Donald Trump, if
Speaker 1: that's an enough I'm saying this again as a democratic strategist,
Speaker 1: is this enough to get people out? And what it's
Speaker 1: showing is it's not for two reasons, one Gaza.
Speaker 2: And two The one thing you had to prove is
Speaker 2: not that you're smarter or more integral than Trump. You
Speaker 2: just had to prove that you could last for four years,
Speaker 2: that you could get a sentence out. And it didn't
Speaker 2: prove it. And there's not a surrogate in the world
Speaker 2: that could convince people. It's got to be Joe. It's
Speaker 2: got to be. You have to prove it. The hate vote,
Speaker 2: the vote against Trump or the vote for Biden is
Speaker 2: the question that they're kind of writing on. But is
Speaker 2: it Is it enough? And I don't know, because again.
Speaker 1: I think it's very important to remember that the people
Speaker 1: that love Trump are just very loud.
Speaker 2: But it's it's not a lot of them like he.
Speaker 1: It's it just seems like he has more fans than
Speaker 1: he does because his fans are so loyal. And the
Speaker 1: fact that again he can bend reality because apparently he's
Speaker 1: completely immune for any other actions he's done because he
Speaker 1: was able to convince fools that they were official acts.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable anyway. But either way, his strategy is locked.
Speaker 2: It's easy. He got he got two notes to hit
Speaker 2: and he just got to keep hitting them.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about former President Trump like it's his strategy's
Speaker 1: on lock.
Speaker 2: It's easy.
Speaker 1: Now all he has to do is just like again,
Speaker 1: like what I would imagine he would do is figure
Speaker 1: out a way to run for a third time. I
Speaker 1: could imagine him trying to figure out a way to
Speaker 1: have a third term. And because he was able to
Speaker 1: just really morph this Supreme Court into whatever he wanted,
Speaker 1: I could see it happening.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so let that be put that in your think
Speaker 1: tank for whoever headlines the Democratic Party. That's why bring
Speaker 1: up these other artists. It's not that they're not talented,
Speaker 1: it's not that they're not brilliant. So anybody I'm about
Speaker 1: to bring up right now at that the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: is looking at as of today, it's not that they're
Speaker 1: not talented. It's not that they may not have a
Speaker 1: shot at this a few years from now. But if
Speaker 1: you bought tickets to Frank Ocean, do you think Stephen
Speaker 1: Lacy could handle the tour?
Speaker 2: Could he open it?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? It would change his career forever. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: he should open it. But should he headline it. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about who we talk about next. Right, we're back
Speaker 1: now the list of the people were talking about. In
Speaker 1: a perfect world, let me just talk strategy. In a
Speaker 1: perfect world, this is who you run in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Any of these people should be who should be in
Speaker 1: the primaries for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: By this time, they'll be ready. This is just not
Speaker 2: the case today. And this is who they talk about. Now.
Speaker 1: Remember again, as of today, Joe Biden said, I need
Speaker 1: to hear from the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 2: I need to see the cloud by day to pill
Speaker 2: it by night.
Speaker 1: I need the archangel Gabriel to Hell Mary full of grace,
Speaker 1: me to tap into my room, to split the sky
Speaker 1: open and say the Lord told me to drop out.
Speaker 2: That's what he say.
Speaker 1: But the squad is like, hey, bro, you caught a
Speaker 1: fade so bad that now the hood's taking ls. So
Speaker 1: here's who we think maybe could be the ones. Now
Speaker 1: again we just talking strategy here. The first one. So
Speaker 1: she's the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer.
Speaker 2: Now why her?
Speaker 1: Now, remember she was the lady that them weirdo dudes
Speaker 1: tried to kidnap and kill her. Y'all remember that a
Speaker 1: few years ago that she was there was a whole
Speaker 1: plot to kidnap her and tortury kill it at Michigan.
Speaker 1: She's in a place where she is articulate. She protected
Speaker 1: abortion rights up there. She's in a place that has
Speaker 1: become such a like what they would call like a
Speaker 1: battleground state, a place where should have been a shoe
Speaker 1: in for somebody like Joe Biden, like, this is tough
Speaker 1: as nails, working class at least Detroit is you know
Speaker 1: this union town?
Speaker 2: You feel me? So it should have been easy, but
Speaker 2: it's not. And Gretchen believes she can deliver.
Speaker 1: She could deliver Michigan. She's she's scoring a lot of
Speaker 1: points for the party. And she also just dropped her
Speaker 1: book now when they asked her like, hey, so if
Speaker 1: Joe steps down, would you be down? She's like nah,
Speaker 1: And you know everybody's supposed to say that, Nah, you
Speaker 1: just yeah, yeah, I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Everybody's been talking about Gavin Newsom forever that he's a
Speaker 1: possibility with his old slick hair back. But he been
Speaker 1: He's been caping for Biden for a long time and
Speaker 1: caping very hard, and like we say, you know, a
Speaker 1: staunchly Democratic state who always wants to smoke when it
Speaker 1: comes to debates. He's very good on his feet, he
Speaker 1: performs well. Now again, I'm a Cali boys, so I
Speaker 1: have a lot of objections with some choices that mister
Speaker 1: Newsom has made, but I feel like he would be
Speaker 1: able to continue to keep that smoke up for for
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. But I don't know if he's Frank Ocean.
Speaker 1: I think he might still be Stephen Lacey. Give him
Speaker 1: a few years, he might be ready. Another one is
Speaker 1: Mayor Pete Mayor Pete Footage. His biggest thing is getting
Speaker 1: over that name Bootage. It's just it just don't rull
Speaker 1: off the tongue. Unfortunately. Now that's this is me saying
Speaker 1: this post Barack Hussein Obama. So there, you never know, right,
Speaker 1: You also have to ask yourself is our country still homophobic?
Speaker 1: Just like you got to ask yourself with Sister Gretchen.
Speaker 1: You know, Governor Gretchen. Are we still a patriarchal society?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1: Now Pete's got a little more experienced Pete ran before.
Speaker 1: We kind of know what he believes. He's got, the
Speaker 1: type of temperament. Could he clap back at Trump in
Speaker 1: this fight. I don't know, but I know it seems
Speaker 1: like it's real late in the game to change the headliner.
Speaker 1: And then finally, the most obvious choice would be Auntie Kamala.
Speaker 1: A lot of pros and cons for this one is
Speaker 1: she's already on the bill, She's already been in the
Speaker 1: Oval office. Now, granted she's incredibly unliked, But then again,
Speaker 1: let's keep it real.
Speaker 2: So is Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Another thing Vice President Kama got going for is she's
Speaker 1: been calling for the ceasefire this whole time. She's not
Speaker 1: on board with this US, you know, as a nation,
Speaker 1: being so complicit in these obvious war crimes being committed
Speaker 1: in Gaza.
Speaker 2: So there's that.
Speaker 1: However, again she's able to say that as the vice president,
Speaker 1: so in some senses she has cover.
Speaker 2: Now would she beat at Bolt as the president?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because again you got to beat the
Speaker 1: policy and the figurehead, and we all know vice presidents
Speaker 1: don't count. But any of these four people would survive
Speaker 1: the next four years. We just don't know if Biden will.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem. She would make the most logical choice,
Speaker 1: like I said, because one, she already understands the policy,
Speaker 1: she knows the playbook, she can articulate it well. She's
Speaker 1: actually off the cuff, pretty funny. And that's what you
Speaker 1: kind of need. Remember, you need a position of both.
Speaker 1: We could, in some senses, you could put the right
Speaker 1: people around a person who don't understand the policies well
Speaker 1: and make them be all right. But the stuff that
Speaker 1: you can't train is how she ain't seeing the wheels
Speaker 1: on the bus go round and around. Right, was the
Speaker 1: weirdest I just ain't never seen. And I know it
Speaker 1: don't matter, but the problem is, yes it do. That's
Speaker 1: that's what sucks about our system. Stuff that don't matter matters,
Speaker 1: And you can't just replace your headliner now if and
Speaker 1: when we stuck with Joe. So here's my advice for
Speaker 1: their strategy as a party. My first advice is, you
Speaker 1: have this Sarah gets fallback. You have people that stump
Speaker 1: for you, that are like, that's our dude, that's our
Speaker 1: that's our guy, you know that, come out and say, no,
Speaker 1: he's very sharp, he is our man. He's got so
Speaker 1: many years of experience. We're behind him because that feels
Speaker 1: like cap because of what we saw.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: So since I can't trust none of your surrogates because
Speaker 1: I know what I saw, So if it were me,
Speaker 1: I would say the first number one step is tell
Speaker 1: every sarrogate to just check the tell it to tell
Speaker 1: people to just check the scoreboard. Okay, say I'm not
Speaker 1: even talking about that. The man can speak for himself.
Speaker 1: Let's just look at the scoreboard and then you just
Speaker 1: start running down the scoreboard, right, and then equipped these
Speaker 1: people with clips of Joe talking that talk, which means
Speaker 1: every chance Joe has to pop out and talk that talk,
Speaker 1: he need to talk his talk. It needs to be
Speaker 1: his voice. He needs to own what he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: dog got a bad day, and yeah I'm old, but
Speaker 1: so is this nigga. But at least I'm old and
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. You make sure that when
Speaker 1: he so, that's it. So you make sure that every
Speaker 1: saraghate knows to say. Joe can speak for himself. All
Speaker 1: I know is the scoreboard, and you start running down
Speaker 1: the scoreboard. You start running down all the different wins
Speaker 1: that he had, right, the infrastructure stuff, you feel me,
Speaker 1: the scheduling of the weed.
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You start talking about the stuff that like should be
Speaker 1: really easy to talk about, like, which is how I'm
Speaker 1: not a felon. How if I listen, you ain't ask me.
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for no governmental I'm not looking for
Speaker 1: no presidential immunity. You don't need to because I do
Speaker 1: the job well. And also listen, I love my son
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna bend the courts. He's gonna take
Speaker 1: responsibility for his actions.
Speaker 2: I love him.
Speaker 1: He made some horrible choices, and I'm gonna stick by
Speaker 1: him all the whole time. He's got a loving, loving
Speaker 1: family that will always be by his side no matter
Speaker 1: how many mistakes he makes. And I understand how he
Speaker 1: fell into that situation, just like a lot of Americans
Speaker 1: who have fallen to opioid to who have fallen into drugs,
Speaker 1: especially after going through such traumatic experiences, have If you've
Speaker 1: experienced lost the way my son experienced lost, man, you
Speaker 1: know who among us wouldn't make you know? And we
Speaker 1: all have family that have have made, you know, bad
Speaker 1: choices in coping with tragedy that's beyond our imagination. It's
Speaker 1: my son, and he's gonna have to deal with the
Speaker 1: consequences of his choices, and I'm gonna be by his
Speaker 1: side the whole time.
Speaker 2: But I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't save him from his choices. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie for him, and he wouldn't want me to. He's
Speaker 1: going to rehab, he's gonna he's gonna get himself better.
Speaker 1: But he's also not running for president.
Speaker 2: Easy enough to me.
Speaker 1: I don't have to turn myself into a pretzel to
Speaker 1: try to explain away. January sixth, because again, if we
Speaker 1: talk about what we saw you saying, believe your eyes
Speaker 1: about me, believe your eyes about him. I don't understand
Speaker 1: what y'all like. Blee your eyes about that. Like that
Speaker 1: man told you who he is. You switch this object,
Speaker 1: like what is we talking about? Whether Joe old or not?
Speaker 1: Of course he owed, but check the scoreboard.
Speaker 2: The man delivers. That's what you say.
Speaker 1: You start talking about his wisdom, and then Joe when
Speaker 1: you pop out. Listen, here's how you coach this man
Speaker 1: short answers, because it's when he starts to try to
Speaker 1: fumble and explain something super complex, that's when he starts
Speaker 1: losing his train of thought.
Speaker 2: Short answers. Listen.
Speaker 1: I have done many a media training and I know
Speaker 1: and I know that things will get chopped up. They're
Speaker 1: gonna take a clip and you're gonna chop it up,
Speaker 1: and pending on whether these people like me or not,
Speaker 1: they gonna chop it up in a way that makes
Speaker 1: me look either good or bad.
Speaker 2: So you make sure your answers are as.
Speaker 1: Short as possible, sweet as possible, and as concise as possible.
Speaker 1: And you got to cure if you the team, you
Speaker 1: got to curate that right, You got to make him
Speaker 1: watch make him watch tapes. You feel me like like
Speaker 1: we ween training right now, and just make him watch
Speaker 1: tapes of when Trump is talking and how to cut
Speaker 1: him off and what to cut him off about. Remember
Speaker 1: that a few weeks ago I gave y'all an example
Speaker 1: about when Trump was asked about childcare and helping to
Speaker 1: pay for that. He went off on the fact that
Speaker 1: Joe has never fired nobody. That should have been your
Speaker 1: green light. So after he had his two minutes to talk,
Speaker 1: all you have to do Joe is say, hey, I
Speaker 1: was just waiting for.
Speaker 2: Him to answer the question. He ain't answered the question,
Speaker 2: so well, here's my answer. Then you give your answer,
Speaker 2: which is about I told you in the other example.
Speaker 2: You tell him.
Speaker 1: You tell him about you tell him about your plans
Speaker 1: to hire minimum wage and the lower taxes for the
Speaker 1: middle class because that health childcare costs so much because
Speaker 1: you're not making enough and we're taxing you too, hide
Speaker 1: so it's impossible. Plus the cost of health care is insane.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take all that off y'all's plates. And
Speaker 1: if I took health care off your plates, you have
Speaker 1: to pay for that. If you don't have to pay
Speaker 1: so much in taxes, and your childcare, even at the
Speaker 1: price it's at now, would be affordable because you make
Speaker 1: it more and it's not going out to stuff that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be having to pay for anyway. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, you shouldn't have to pay for childcare anyway.
Speaker 1: If you can't, we got money as the government, because again,
Speaker 1: the budget is a moral document. You we're saying what
Speaker 1: we value, and what I'm trying to say is in
Speaker 1: the Biden administration, we value our children. We value our families,
Speaker 1: who value our children, We'll spend on that. But this
Speaker 1: is to talk about who you're gonna fire or not,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know what you're talking about. You've
Speaker 1: got like do y'all want to let him answer? Like,
Speaker 1: go ahead and answer, this is my answer. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't know what his plan is because he ain't told
Speaker 1: us that. I mean, like, then you just you put
Speaker 1: the onus on him. Joe always on defense whenever they
Speaker 1: talk the idea that like don't even acknowledge it, just
Speaker 1: you acknowledge it in a way to make it look silly. Right,
Speaker 1: So then as he talking about like the border, the border,
Speaker 1: the border, the border. You know these people, these people
Speaker 1: they stealing, they stealing, they stealing. It's like then you go, hey, homie,
Speaker 1: you're like a you only got one note, bro, Like
Speaker 1: you think all the problems of America goes back to
Speaker 1: the border.
Speaker 2: Is that's your answer to everything? Is the border.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with everything, every everybody. So that's all right, man,
Speaker 1: And then you say that seems pretty simple to me.
Speaker 1: I found that this job is rather complicated and the
Speaker 1: border is one of many things that we could do
Speaker 1: better in. But if you just want to blame all
Speaker 1: your problems on immigrants, I mean, I know somebody that
Speaker 1: did that before.
Speaker 2: You just let it. You just let it, let it,
Speaker 2: let it linger, let it linger, baby, and you just
Speaker 2: don't get into it. And you say like, hey, so
Speaker 2: so that's your answer, and then you start teasing it like, hey,
Speaker 2: my answer is this.
Speaker 1: I know his answer is his answer is the border.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, like, let me tell
Speaker 1: you what he gonna say. He gonna say the border.
Speaker 1: You just trolling because that's all you say. Right like
Speaker 1: I said before, whenever another question come up, you're gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'll tell you what I tell
Speaker 1: you one thing, I know Trump gonna say, he gonna
Speaker 1: say it's not his fault.
Speaker 2: He gonna say it's to everybody else's fault. You just
Speaker 2: be wise and then tell the.
Speaker 1: Sarah Gates to be like, look at the scoreboard. And
Speaker 1: then when they say, well, mister Biden, what is your answer, Well,
Speaker 1: here's my answer. My answer is what we've already done.
Speaker 1: It's what I'm in the middle of working all right now, scoreboard.
Speaker 1: And then if you, Joe, you say, here's where we
Speaker 1: messed up. Here's where we're gonna do better next time.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna do to assuay y'all's concern about
Speaker 1: my age. These are the people I'm bringing around me.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing some fresh breath around me and some fresh lung,
Speaker 1: some good knees. I'm gonna bring some good knees around me.
Speaker 1: And this is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna bring
Speaker 1: my wisdom, and I'm gonna bring their youth, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna make the most amazing cabinet ever.
Speaker 2: That's just like it seems so easy to me. That's
Speaker 2: what you would say. You own it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the youngest dude. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna bring a lot of wisdom. Now, you
Speaker 1: look at these people around me. You see these young
Speaker 1: folks out here, You see these sparks. Then you start
Speaker 1: naming these people that are supposed to be the next up.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Gavin, I'm talking to Gretchen, and I'm
Speaker 1: talking to Kamala like I'm talking to these people like I'm.
Speaker 2: Letting them tell me like this ain't This ain't a
Speaker 2: one man show.
Speaker 1: Unlike this food. Don't want you to believe it. It's
Speaker 1: not a one man show. I'm here for the team.
Speaker 1: I know more around weaknesses are. That's why I hire
Speaker 1: people that are good in the places that I need
Speaker 1: some help. And where I need some help is my
Speaker 1: bedtime ten thirty. Y'all make the joke about it, just
Speaker 1: own it's since you're not.
Speaker 2: Gonna step down, that's the type of trash you need
Speaker 2: to start talking. Now.
Speaker 1: If we're going back to the headliner show thing, then
Speaker 1: yo two hour performance need to be an hour and
Speaker 1: fifteen performance, and they need to be your greatest hits.
Speaker 1: And you need to know to go sit down before
Speaker 1: you start looking tired. This is only if you stay it.
Speaker 1: You could be like, I'm too old for this, Let's
Speaker 1: let the young things do it. But since you're not
Speaker 1: gonna do it, I get it. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, the party is in a position where
Speaker 1: even if you wanted to one of the hardest things
Speaker 1: in the world, after you'dne sold all these tickets and
Speaker 1: built all these billboards and made all them flyers switching
Speaker 1: out headliners. Now, on the other hand, it could go
Speaker 1: where the crowd is actually proud of you. The crowd
Speaker 1: is like, I'm glad, y'all, not thank you.
Speaker 2: Like we see it. Nobody wants to.
Speaker 1: See their stars lose a step. I don't want to see.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Beyonce that cane dance. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see. I don't want to see it.
Speaker 1: I want to remember her how I remember her so
Speaker 1: so if you tell me, hey, look man, she can't
Speaker 1: y'all gonna she can't do it, man, But she has
Speaker 1: hand picked the person. Like, think how powerful that is.
Speaker 1: If Beyonce is like, I am handpicking the person these
Speaker 1: three I would be so cool if any of these
Speaker 1: three people. If she say I'll be down, I'll be down.
Speaker 1: If loudo I'll be down. If Megan, I'll be down.
Speaker 1: If Janey, Iiko, Jasmine Sulliman her, I'd be cool. If
Speaker 1: any of them came through, I.
Speaker 2: Would definitely buy them tickets. I don't know the slow Curl.
Speaker 1: If Billie Eilish, I'd be I would co sign any
Speaker 1: of these ladies to come take care of it.
Speaker 2: This. Are they icon Queen Bays? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: But you know what if she was like, my knees
Speaker 1: can't do it no more, and she said she'd be
Speaker 1: cool with that, I think the crowd might be cool
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: Or and of course you gonna lose. You gonna lose.
Speaker 1: People don't want their money back because that's not what
Speaker 1: they paid for, you know. But some people might be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep supporting you because you did the right thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't tell the future.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they've done, but I know this.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an ugly few months politics. All right, now,
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Speaker 1: If you understand urban living, you understand politics. These people
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