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Speaker 1: Apparently Trump is now confersd sing fifty cent songs.

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Speaker 2: Many men they don't the little white boy took the shot.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I was cracking funny on the internet,

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Speaker 2: People was even sending me screenshots.

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Speaker 1: Black people's first thought was, I hope the shooter ain't black.

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Speaker 1: I just hope the shooter ain't black. That's just please

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Speaker 1: It's not as easy as switching out Broken Leg Beyonce

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Speaker 1: Don't you think that will push her queendom even further

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Speaker 1: Too prideful to like walk away from it, wonder what

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Speaker 2: Lord Almighty, we're gonna talk.

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this episode running the risk that it's going

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Speaker 1: Real deal, whole, actual factual assassin attempt. Now, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Remember that our presidents have been assassinated before, notwithstanding the

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Speaker 2: Nobody's got a corner on this.

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Speaker 1: They're the authors of this book called How Democracies Die

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Speaker 2: Your little keep your little conspira, keep keep it to

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Speaker 2: Right, so.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earl sweatshirt. If you bought a Tyler the

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Speaker 1: Creator ticket and Tyler got laryngitis, do you cancel the

436
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Speaker 1: show or do you bring in earl sweatshirt? It's not

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Speaker 1: that easy, is the point I'm trying to make. Murphy

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Speaker 1: Lee was a member of the same Lunatics. So if

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Speaker 1: you wanted to see Nelly, you're gonna settle for Murphy

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00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Lee Dicera as a member of the Roots. You want

441
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Speaker 1: to see you going to the Roots picnic and black

442
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Speaker 1: Thought isn't feeling well. If you're the promoter, do you

443
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Speaker 1: cancel the show? If you're looking at if you went

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Speaker 1: to the rehearsals and you saw your headliner, you saw

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Speaker 1: you saw beyond. You saw her struggle through her routines,

446
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: you barely get her words out, You saw her mess

447
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: up song lyrics. Now, obviously I can't see this ever happening,

448
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: but just follow my example. You see that like she

449
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: ain't got this, she don't how to step sheet. But

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00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: you done, already sold all the tickets, her posts, her

451
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: name on every poster. You done bought the billboards, You

452
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: done bought the commercial spots. I brought up Isaiah Rashad,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Rashad's and member of TDE. He was one of

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Speaker 1: the first acts that they signed after Black Hippie was

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Speaker 1: all signed. He was one of the first ones they

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Speaker 1: added to the roster. He fit perfectly. But if you

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Speaker 1: bought a Kendrick Lamar ticket, do you want to see

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Rashad? Does that mean he's not talented? It has

459
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with his talent. It means it's not

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Speaker 1: what we signed up for. And even if Kendrick had

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Speaker 1: lost his mind, you bought a Kendrick ticket. Now, if

462
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: you're the promoter, a lot is riding on this. You

463
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: can't just switch out headliners. I have been on a

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Speaker 1: tour where the supporting act got switched out the week before.

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Speaker 2: With someone who I would argue is of equal or.

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Speaker 1: Might be greater talent. That it matters now y'all signed

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Speaker 1: up for. It just causes chaos. So what do you

468
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Speaker 1: do if you're the promoter? Because it's not that simple.

469
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Speaker 1: You can't just switch the headliner as you as the buyer,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking these questions. If you're the buyer,

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Speaker 1: you bought a ticket to see Beyonce, and if Beyonce

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Speaker 1: is not coming, and they just add some are you

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Speaker 1: still gonna go to the concert? He's like, gosh, man,

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Speaker 1: my three hundred dollars, but you spend your three hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars to see her. What you probably gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Is sit it out. And I don't know who you

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Speaker 2: could possibly put in her place? And again, do you

478
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Speaker 2: have to go? How do you go higher? Like if

479
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Speaker 2: we're talking like who's higher than who's higher than Beyonce?

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Speaker 2: Like what do you do? Your hope is to get

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Speaker 2: somebody younger? What do you do?

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Speaker 1: And I say this to say this is the position

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Speaker 1: that the Democratic Party finds their self in now. To

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Speaker 1: keep this metaphor going is to say that you knew

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Speaker 1: good and well Beyonce wasn't ready for this tour. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying if it was that, and but if

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Speaker 1: she was insistent, like I'm doing this, but all of

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Speaker 1: us can tell huh, Like let's just say this is

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty four, Beyonce, I don't know, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying like she don't. I'm just the point I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to make is it's very obvious that she's Queen

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Speaker 1: Bay and nobody taking that from her. It's just maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe this ain't Joe moment.

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Speaker 2: I but what are you gonna do? Well? Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: had a.

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Speaker 1: Abysmal performance at the first debate. Now, when I say performance,

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Speaker 1: I say that word on purpose because okay, now here's

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Speaker 1: your here's your here's your political theory. Here. In a

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Speaker 1: lot of countries you have a lot of like modern democracies,

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Speaker 1: you have a president and a prime minister. Right, the

501
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: president is more figurehead. The prime minister does the work, right,

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Speaker 1: the actual running of a government, President prime minister. In

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Speaker 1: the UK you have the Queen, well now the king

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Speaker 1: and then the prime minister. The prime minister does the work.

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Speaker 1: These are two different people. What's unique about America is

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Speaker 1: and other countries that are like this, they are those

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Speaker 1: two roles are one person. You are the figurehead and

508
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Speaker 1: the administrator. You have to be able to do both.

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Speaker 1: It's the equivalent to the think of like the guitar whiz,

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Speaker 1: the musician, the band that just loves music so much

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Speaker 1: that when you go see them play. They're really not

512
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Speaker 1: paying you no attention. They're actually enjoying themselves. The performer

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Speaker 1: that turns their back and it's just like vibing with

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Speaker 1: the band. I mean, it's cool, it sounds amazing, it's

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Speaker 1: technically sounds amazing, But was it a good show? Because

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Speaker 1: it's like I wasn't a part of it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a part of it. You're not even paying me any attention.

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Speaker 1: The crowds just the crowd could be there or not there.

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00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: You just love the music, which, if you're into that,

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00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Then on the other hand, you have a

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Speaker 1: person who's remarkably entertaining. If you ask a Latina that

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Speaker 1: you're j LO, there's a civil war among Latin women

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Speaker 1: about how they feel about j LO. You either love

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: her or hate her. I'm gonna argue which part of

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Speaker 1: the Latin community is. It depends on if Selena is

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Speaker 1: your patent saint, because if Selena is your patron saint,

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Speaker 1: then you're sort of offended that JLO played her.

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Speaker 2: Out of anyway.

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Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to bake is it's no secret

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Speaker 1: that Jennifer Lopez don't have the greatest voice, but she

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Speaker 1: is a remarkable performer. She's an incredible entertainer. There's no

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Speaker 1: other way around it. She's an incredible entertainer. It's a

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Speaker 1: pretty mid singer. It's just apparently I'm learning now that

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Speaker 1: that's the Alicia Keyes story. I felt like she was

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Speaker 1: a great singer.

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Speaker 2: But how what do I know? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: The point is in America, you have to be able

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Speaker 1: to do both. You have to be a great musician

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Speaker 1: and a great performer in terms of following my metaphor

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Speaker 1: in terms of being the president. So Biden's performance had

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Speaker 1: very little to do. That's why I say performance as

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00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: very little dude with the substance of what he was

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00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: trying to say. Now, this is not me again, I've

544
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: said it many times. It's not me being a Biden

545
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: stand This is me saying that in a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: in a lot of scenarios, I got what he was

547
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: trying to say because of his track record of like ups.

548
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: And downs and goods and bads and.

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00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: Abysmal policies and also incredible policies that have benefited our

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Speaker 1: country in ways that no one and especially him, has

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Speaker 1: been able to articulate. He couldn't get the words out.

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Speaker 1: The problem is you have to be able to do both.

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00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: You have to be able to actually know the policy

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00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: and perform. Which is why my argument between the two

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Speaker 1: of Trump and Biden is Donald Trump's an incredible performer.

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00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: He just don't know what he's talking about.

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00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: Or when he is talking. He lied like.

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Speaker 1: Your policies are trash, even the ones that are that

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00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: you're gloating as wins, like that's the inflation you talking about,

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00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: It was.

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00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Because of your policies.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, if you're gonna get into the

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Speaker 1: weeds of the policies, Trump can articulate bad policies. Well,

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Speaker 1: now having said that about old Trumpy, I am calling

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Speaker 1: some of these bad policies only because I disagree with him.

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Speaker 1: They may not necessarily be air quotes bad. I just

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Speaker 1: don't agree with that direction.

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Speaker 2: So let me just say that. And then some of

569
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: the stuff is like I don't know, gee, you lost

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00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: your mind.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be able to do both. Why was Barack

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00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: Obama what he was was because he could do both.

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Speaker 1: Now I have some strong issues with a good number

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Speaker 1: of his policies, of course, but he carried the position, well,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get you one to do both. It is

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00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: abundantly clear to the Democratic Party that mister Biden can't

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Speaker 1: do both right now. As a matter of fact, according

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00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: to the people that ain't willing to say it with

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00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: their whole chest, people going off record, people not willing

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00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: to stand on business, they saying it with part of

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00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: their chess is that he's getting less and less lucid

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00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: as time goes on. And these people are afraid of

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00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: saying it out loud, but they all whispering it. There's

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00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: been about four people that have said it out loud

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00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: that it's like, I think it's time for us to

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00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: switch our headline. And I hope they're saying it understanding

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00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: the risk that that is a risk that's very obvious

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00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: to you who's listening, which is, how do you convince

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00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: people who already purchase their ticket to not just sit

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00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: it out because it looks like you don't know what

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00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Who do you put in place that

592
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: makes people that have already bought their ticket soonoper excited

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: about the person you bringing in, which is why I

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00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: bring up Dice Raw.

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00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: That's an incredible rapper.

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00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: He's not black thought, But you have to convince people

597
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: that only know the roots based on Jimmy fallon that

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00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: Dice raws you'll do. You have to convince people that

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00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: Murphy Lee can rap his tail. You have to convince

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00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: people that Lloyd Banks can wrap his tail off because

601
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: fifty cent is too drunk to perform. Oh yeah, because

602
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks was a member of g Unit. So you

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00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: have to convince them. I know, because I love hip hop,

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00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: but I also know most of y'all don't know.

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00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: So who do you bring? You need somebody that is half.

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00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: Joe's age, understands the policy and has a big enough

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00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: back to put the country on their shoulders in this situation.

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00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: Nobody knows if it's really enough, If the disgust and

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Speaker 1: the fear of another four years of Donald Trump, if

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Speaker 1: that's an enough I'm saying this again as a democratic strategist,

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00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: is this enough to get people out? And what it's

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00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: showing is it's not for two reasons, one Gaza.

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Speaker 2: And two The one thing you had to prove is

614
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: not that you're smarter or more integral than Trump. You

615
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 2: just had to prove that you could last for four years,

616
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: that you could get a sentence out. And it didn't

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Speaker 2: prove it. And there's not a surrogate in the world

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Speaker 2: that could convince people. It's got to be Joe. It's

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00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: got to be. You have to prove it. The hate vote,

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00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: the vote against Trump or the vote for Biden is

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00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: the question that they're kind of writing on. But is

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Speaker 2: it Is it enough? And I don't know, because again.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very important to remember that the people

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00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: that love Trump are just very loud.

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00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: But it's it's not a lot of them like he.

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Speaker 1: It's it just seems like he has more fans than

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Speaker 1: he does because his fans are so loyal. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that again he can bend reality because apparently he's

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00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: completely immune for any other actions he's done because he

630
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: was able to convince fools that they were official acts.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable anyway. But either way, his strategy is locked.

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00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: It's easy. He got he got two notes to hit

633
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: and he just got to keep hitting them.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about former President Trump like it's his strategy's

635
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: on lock.

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00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: It's easy.

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Speaker 1: Now all he has to do is just like again,

638
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: like what I would imagine he would do is figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to run for a third time. I

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00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: could imagine him trying to figure out a way to

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00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: have a third term. And because he was able to

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00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: just really morph this Supreme Court into whatever he wanted,

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Speaker 1: I could see it happening.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, so let that be put that in your think

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00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: tank for whoever headlines the Democratic Party. That's why bring

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00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: up these other artists. It's not that they're not talented,

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00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: it's not that they're not brilliant. So anybody I'm about

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Speaker 1: to bring up right now at that the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: is looking at as of today, it's not that they're

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Speaker 1: not talented. It's not that they may not have a

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Speaker 1: shot at this a few years from now. But if

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Speaker 1: you bought tickets to Frank Ocean, do you think Stephen

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Speaker 1: Lacy could handle the tour?

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Speaker 2: Could he open it?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? It would change his career forever. Matter of fact,

657
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Speaker 1: he should open it. But should he headline it. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about who we talk about next. Right, we're back

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Speaker 1: now the list of the people were talking about. In

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Speaker 1: a perfect world, let me just talk strategy. In a

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Speaker 1: perfect world, this is who you run in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Any of these people should be who should be in

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Speaker 1: the primaries for the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 2: By this time, they'll be ready. This is just not

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Speaker 2: the case today. And this is who they talk about. Now.

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Speaker 1: Remember again, as of today, Joe Biden said, I need

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Speaker 1: to hear from the Holy Spirit.

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00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: I need to see the cloud by day to pill

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Speaker 2: it by night.

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Speaker 1: I need the archangel Gabriel to Hell Mary full of grace,

671
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Speaker 1: me to tap into my room, to split the sky

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Speaker 1: open and say the Lord told me to drop out.

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Speaker 2: That's what he say.

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Speaker 1: But the squad is like, hey, bro, you caught a

675
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Speaker 1: fade so bad that now the hood's taking ls. So

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Speaker 1: here's who we think maybe could be the ones. Now

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00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: again we just talking strategy here. The first one. So

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Speaker 1: she's the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer.

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00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: Now why her?

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00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: Now, remember she was the lady that them weirdo dudes

681
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: tried to kidnap and kill her. Y'all remember that a

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00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: few years ago that she was there was a whole

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Speaker 1: plot to kidnap her and tortury kill it at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: She's in a place where she is articulate. She protected

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Speaker 1: abortion rights up there. She's in a place that has

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Speaker 1: become such a like what they would call like a

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Speaker 1: battleground state, a place where should have been a shoe

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Speaker 1: in for somebody like Joe Biden, like, this is tough

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Speaker 1: as nails, working class at least Detroit is you know

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Speaker 1: this union town?

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Speaker 2: You feel me? So it should have been easy, but

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Speaker 2: it's not. And Gretchen believes she can deliver.

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Speaker 1: She could deliver Michigan. She's she's scoring a lot of

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Speaker 1: points for the party. And she also just dropped her

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Speaker 1: book now when they asked her like, hey, so if

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Speaker 1: Joe steps down, would you be down? She's like nah,

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Speaker 1: And you know everybody's supposed to say that, Nah, you

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00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: just yeah, yeah, I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's been talking about Gavin Newsom forever that he's a

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00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: possibility with his old slick hair back. But he been

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00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: He's been caping for Biden for a long time and

703
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: caping very hard, and like we say, you know, a

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Speaker 1: staunchly Democratic state who always wants to smoke when it

705
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Speaker 1: comes to debates. He's very good on his feet, he

706
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: performs well. Now again, I'm a Cali boys, so I

707
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: have a lot of objections with some choices that mister

708
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: Newsom has made, but I feel like he would be

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00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: able to continue to keep that smoke up for for

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. But I don't know if he's Frank Ocean.

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00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: I think he might still be Stephen Lacey. Give him

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Speaker 1: a few years, he might be ready. Another one is

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Speaker 1: Mayor Pete Mayor Pete Footage. His biggest thing is getting

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00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: over that name Bootage. It's just it just don't rull

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Speaker 1: off the tongue. Unfortunately. Now that's this is me saying

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00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: this post Barack Hussein Obama. So there, you never know, right,

717
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: You also have to ask yourself is our country still homophobic?

718
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: Just like you got to ask yourself with Sister Gretchen.

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Speaker 1: You know, Governor Gretchen. Are we still a patriarchal society?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, maybe.

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00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: Now Pete's got a little more experienced Pete ran before.

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00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: We kind of know what he believes. He's got, the

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Speaker 1: type of temperament. Could he clap back at Trump in

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00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: this fight. I don't know, but I know it seems

725
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: like it's real late in the game to change the headliner.

726
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: And then finally, the most obvious choice would be Auntie Kamala.

727
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: A lot of pros and cons for this one is

728
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Speaker 1: she's already on the bill, She's already been in the

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00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: Oval office. Now, granted she's incredibly unliked, But then again,

730
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Speaker 1: let's keep it real.

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00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: So is Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Another thing Vice President Kama got going for is she's

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Speaker 1: been calling for the ceasefire this whole time. She's not

734
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: on board with this US, you know, as a nation,

735
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: being so complicit in these obvious war crimes being committed

736
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Speaker 1: in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: So there's that.

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Speaker 1: However, again she's able to say that as the vice president,

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00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: so in some senses she has cover.

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Speaker 2: Now would she beat at Bolt as the president?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because again you got to beat the

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Speaker 1: policy and the figurehead, and we all know vice presidents

743
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: don't count. But any of these four people would survive

744
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: the next four years. We just don't know if Biden will.

745
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: And that's the problem. She would make the most logical choice,

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Speaker 1: like I said, because one, she already understands the policy,

747
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: she knows the playbook, she can articulate it well. She's

748
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: actually off the cuff, pretty funny. And that's what you

749
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 1: kind of need. Remember, you need a position of both.

750
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: We could, in some senses, you could put the right

751
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Speaker 1: people around a person who don't understand the policies well

752
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: and make them be all right. But the stuff that

753
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: you can't train is how she ain't seeing the wheels

754
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: on the bus go round and around. Right, was the

755
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: weirdest I just ain't never seen. And I know it

756
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: don't matter, but the problem is, yes it do. That's

757
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: that's what sucks about our system. Stuff that don't matter matters,

758
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: And you can't just replace your headliner now if and

759
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: when we stuck with Joe. So here's my advice for

760
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: their strategy as a party. My first advice is, you

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00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: have this Sarah gets fallback. You have people that stump

762
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: for you, that are like, that's our dude, that's our

763
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: that's our guy, you know that, come out and say, no,

764
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: he's very sharp, he is our man. He's got so

765
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: many years of experience. We're behind him because that feels

766
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Speaker 1: like cap because of what we saw.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: So since I can't trust none of your surrogates because

769
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: I know what I saw, So if it were me,

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Speaker 1: I would say the first number one step is tell

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00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: every sarrogate to just check the tell it to tell

772
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: people to just check the scoreboard. Okay, say I'm not

773
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: even talking about that. The man can speak for himself.

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00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Let's just look at the scoreboard and then you just

775
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: start running down the scoreboard, right, and then equipped these

776
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: people with clips of Joe talking that talk, which means

777
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: every chance Joe has to pop out and talk that talk,

778
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: he need to talk his talk. It needs to be

779
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: his voice. He needs to own what he did. Yeah,

780
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: dog got a bad day, and yeah I'm old, but

781
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: so is this nigga. But at least I'm old and

782
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. You make sure that when

783
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: he so, that's it. So you make sure that every

784
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Speaker 1: saraghate knows to say. Joe can speak for himself. All

785
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: I know is the scoreboard, and you start running down

786
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: the scoreboard. You start running down all the different wins

787
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Speaker 1: that he had, right, the infrastructure stuff, you feel me,

788
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: the scheduling of the weed.

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Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You start talking about the stuff that like should be

791
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: really easy to talk about, like, which is how I'm

792
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: not a felon. How if I listen, you ain't ask me.

793
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for no governmental I'm not looking for

794
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: no presidential immunity. You don't need to because I do

795
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Speaker 1: the job well. And also listen, I love my son

796
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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna bend the courts. He's gonna take

797
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: responsibility for his actions.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 1: He made some horrible choices, and I'm gonna stick by

800
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Speaker 1: him all the whole time. He's got a loving, loving

801
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: family that will always be by his side no matter

802
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: how many mistakes he makes. And I understand how he

803
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: fell into that situation, just like a lot of Americans

804
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: who have fallen to opioid to who have fallen into drugs,

805
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: especially after going through such traumatic experiences, have If you've

806
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: experienced lost the way my son experienced lost, man, you

807
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: know who among us wouldn't make you know? And we

808
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: all have family that have have made, you know, bad

809
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: choices in coping with tragedy that's beyond our imagination. It's

810
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: my son, and he's gonna have to deal with the

811
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Speaker 1: consequences of his choices, and I'm gonna be by his

812
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: side the whole time.

813
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: But I can't.

814
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: I can't save him from his choices. I'm not gonna

815
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Speaker 1: lie for him, and he wouldn't want me to. He's

816
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: going to rehab, he's gonna he's gonna get himself better.

817
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: But he's also not running for president.

818
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: Easy enough to me.

819
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to turn myself into a pretzel to

820
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: try to explain away. January sixth, because again, if we

821
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: talk about what we saw you saying, believe your eyes

822
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: about me, believe your eyes about him. I don't understand

823
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: what y'all like. Blee your eyes about that. Like that

824
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: man told you who he is. You switch this object,

825
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: like what is we talking about? Whether Joe old or not?

826
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: Of course he owed, but check the scoreboard.

827
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 2: The man delivers. That's what you say.

828
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: You start talking about his wisdom, and then Joe when

829
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: you pop out. Listen, here's how you coach this man

830
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: short answers, because it's when he starts to try to

831
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: fumble and explain something super complex, that's when he starts

832
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: losing his train of thought.

833
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: Short answers. Listen.

834
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Speaker 1: I have done many a media training and I know

835
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: and I know that things will get chopped up. They're

836
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: gonna take a clip and you're gonna chop it up,

837
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Speaker 1: and pending on whether these people like me or not,

838
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: they gonna chop it up in a way that makes

839
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Speaker 1: me look either good or bad.

840
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Speaker 2: So you make sure your answers are as.

841
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: Short as possible, sweet as possible, and as concise as possible.

842
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: And you got to cure if you the team, you

843
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: got to curate that right, You got to make him

844
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: watch make him watch tapes. You feel me like like

845
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: we ween training right now, and just make him watch

846
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: tapes of when Trump is talking and how to cut

847
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: him off and what to cut him off about. Remember

848
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: that a few weeks ago I gave y'all an example

849
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: about when Trump was asked about childcare and helping to

850
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: pay for that. He went off on the fact that

851
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: Joe has never fired nobody. That should have been your

852
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: green light. So after he had his two minutes to talk,

853
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: all you have to do Joe is say, hey, I

854
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: was just waiting for.

855
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: Him to answer the question. He ain't answered the question,

856
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: so well, here's my answer. Then you give your answer,

857
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: which is about I told you in the other example.

858
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: You tell him.

859
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: You tell him about you tell him about your plans

860
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: to hire minimum wage and the lower taxes for the

861
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: middle class because that health childcare costs so much because

862
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: you're not making enough and we're taxing you too, hide

863
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: so it's impossible. Plus the cost of health care is insane.

864
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take all that off y'all's plates. And

865
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Speaker 1: if I took health care off your plates, you have

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Speaker 1: to pay for that. If you don't have to pay

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Speaker 1: so much in taxes, and your childcare, even at the

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Speaker 1: price it's at now, would be affordable because you make

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Speaker 1: it more and it's not going out to stuff that

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be having to pay for anyway. As a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, you shouldn't have to pay for childcare anyway.

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Speaker 1: If you can't, we got money as the government, because again,

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Speaker 1: the budget is a moral document. You we're saying what

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Speaker 1: we value, and what I'm trying to say is in

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration, we value our children. We value our families,

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Speaker 1: who value our children, We'll spend on that. But this

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Speaker 1: is to talk about who you're gonna fire or not,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't even know what you're talking about. You've

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Speaker 1: got like do y'all want to let him answer? Like,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and answer, this is my answer. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what his plan is because he ain't told

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Speaker 1: us that. I mean, like, then you just you put

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Speaker 1: the onus on him. Joe always on defense whenever they

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Speaker 1: talk the idea that like don't even acknowledge it, just

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Speaker 1: you acknowledge it in a way to make it look silly. Right,

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Speaker 1: So then as he talking about like the border, the border,

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Speaker 1: the border, the border. You know these people, these people

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Speaker 1: they stealing, they stealing, they stealing. It's like then you go, hey, homie,

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Speaker 1: you're like a you only got one note, bro, Like

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Speaker 1: you think all the problems of America goes back to

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Speaker 1: the border.

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Speaker 2: Is that's your answer to everything? Is the border.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem with everything, every everybody. So that's all right, man,

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Speaker 1: And then you say that seems pretty simple to me.

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Speaker 1: I found that this job is rather complicated and the

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Speaker 1: border is one of many things that we could do

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Speaker 1: better in. But if you just want to blame all

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Speaker 1: your problems on immigrants, I mean, I know somebody that

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Speaker 1: did that before.

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Speaker 2: You just let it. You just let it, let it,

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00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: let it linger, let it linger, baby, and you just

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Speaker 2: don't get into it. And you say like, hey, so

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Speaker 2: so that's your answer, and then you start teasing it like, hey,

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Speaker 2: my answer is this.

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Speaker 1: I know his answer is his answer is the border.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, like, let me tell

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Speaker 1: you what he gonna say. He gonna say the border.

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Speaker 1: You just trolling because that's all you say. Right like

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Speaker 1: I said before, whenever another question come up, you're gonna say, well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'll tell you what I tell

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Speaker 1: you one thing, I know Trump gonna say, he gonna

912
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Speaker 1: say it's not his fault.

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Speaker 2: He gonna say it's to everybody else's fault. You just

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Speaker 2: be wise and then tell the.

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Speaker 1: Sarah Gates to be like, look at the scoreboard. And

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Speaker 1: then when they say, well, mister Biden, what is your answer, Well,

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Speaker 1: here's my answer. My answer is what we've already done.

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Speaker 1: It's what I'm in the middle of working all right now, scoreboard.

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Speaker 1: And then if you, Joe, you say, here's where we

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Speaker 1: messed up. Here's where we're gonna do better next time.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna do to assuay y'all's concern about

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Speaker 1: my age. These are the people I'm bringing around me.

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing some fresh breath around me and some fresh lung,

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Speaker 1: some good knees. I'm gonna bring some good knees around me.

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Speaker 1: And this is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna bring

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Speaker 1: my wisdom, and I'm gonna bring their youth, and we're

927
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Speaker 1: gonna make the most amazing cabinet ever.

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Speaker 2: That's just like it seems so easy to me. That's

929
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Speaker 2: what you would say. You own it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the youngest dude. You know what I'm saying,

931
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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna bring a lot of wisdom. Now, you

932
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: look at these people around me. You see these young

933
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: folks out here, You see these sparks. Then you start

934
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Speaker 1: naming these people that are supposed to be the next up.

935
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Gavin, I'm talking to Gretchen, and I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to Kamala like I'm talking to these people like I'm.

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Speaker 2: Letting them tell me like this ain't This ain't a

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Speaker 2: one man show.

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Speaker 1: Unlike this food. Don't want you to believe it. It's

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Speaker 1: not a one man show. I'm here for the team.

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Speaker 1: I know more around weaknesses are. That's why I hire

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Speaker 1: people that are good in the places that I need

943
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Speaker 1: some help. And where I need some help is my

944
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Speaker 1: bedtime ten thirty. Y'all make the joke about it, just

945
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Speaker 1: own it's since you're not.

946
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Speaker 2: Gonna step down, that's the type of trash you need

947
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Speaker 2: to start talking. Now.

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Speaker 1: If we're going back to the headliner show thing, then

949
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: yo two hour performance need to be an hour and

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Speaker 1: fifteen performance, and they need to be your greatest hits.

951
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: And you need to know to go sit down before

952
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Speaker 1: you start looking tired. This is only if you stay it.

953
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Speaker 1: You could be like, I'm too old for this, Let's

954
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Speaker 1: let the young things do it. But since you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna do it, I get it. But at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, the party is in a position where

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Speaker 1: even if you wanted to one of the hardest things

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Speaker 1: in the world, after you'dne sold all these tickets and

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Speaker 1: built all these billboards and made all them flyers switching

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Speaker 1: out headliners. Now, on the other hand, it could go

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Speaker 1: where the crowd is actually proud of you. The crowd

962
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Speaker 1: is like, I'm glad, y'all, not thank you.

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Speaker 2: Like we see it. Nobody wants to.

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Speaker 1: See their stars lose a step. I don't want to see.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see Beyonce that cane dance. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see. I don't want to see it.

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Speaker 1: I want to remember her how I remember her so

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Speaker 1: so if you tell me, hey, look man, she can't

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Speaker 1: y'all gonna she can't do it, man, But she has

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Speaker 1: hand picked the person. Like, think how powerful that is.

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Speaker 1: If Beyonce is like, I am handpicking the person these

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Speaker 1: three I would be so cool if any of these

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Speaker 1: three people. If she say I'll be down, I'll be down.

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Speaker 1: If loudo I'll be down. If Megan, I'll be down.

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Speaker 1: If Janey, Iiko, Jasmine Sulliman her, I'd be cool. If

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Speaker 1: any of them came through, I.

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Speaker 2: Would definitely buy them tickets. I don't know the slow Curl.

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Speaker 1: If Billie Eilish, I'd be I would co sign any

979
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Speaker 1: of these ladies to come take care of it.

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Speaker 2: This. Are they icon Queen Bays? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: But you know what if she was like, my knees

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Speaker 1: can't do it no more, and she said she'd be

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Speaker 1: cool with that, I think the crowd might be cool

984
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Speaker 1: with it.

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00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: Or and of course you gonna lose. You gonna lose.

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Speaker 1: People don't want their money back because that's not what

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: they paid for, you know. But some people might be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep supporting you because you did the right thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't tell the future.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they've done, but I know this.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be an ugly few months politics. All right, now,

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