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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: The analytics were created to give nerds a reason to

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Speaker 4: You're not worried about losing the game because of what

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Speaker 4: Felgrim mads are going to say. You're worried about not

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Speaker 4: being as good as you think they are.

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Speaker 5: I had never experienced like losing a playoff game before,

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Speaker 5: really as like a fan chilling, and I just remember

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Speaker 5: being absolutely distraught after they lost to Denver then too.

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Speaker 6: That's like why I started blogging about the team. I

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Speaker 6: think just that loss against the god.

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Speaker 3: Whooping it up in that press box. If you remember

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Speaker 3: Paul Mike.

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Speaker 4: Camble, remember what happened in this season, but you remember

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Speaker 4: the disrespect from the out of on press court.

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Speaker 3: You got that right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, they told me they have a

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Speaker 2: new nickname for me, Freddie Fields.

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Speaker 3: But after this week, maybe I don't want to.

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Speaker 7: Go around the office.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not sure Evyan's coming back tomorrow. You little

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Speaker 4: mean to him before the breaking. Oh yeah, you think

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Speaker 4: I heard him into.

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Speaker 3: I heard him with the analytics. I don't shine.

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Speaker 4: I think you're his feelings these things, and fred will

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Speaker 4: make fun of me because these things don't generally move

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what moves your need, but Freddie Fields

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Speaker 7: moves his need.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots sun Filtered.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday here at ji Lets Stadium, and we

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Speaker 2: got Evan and Paul and Alex and Duce and me

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Speaker 2: and now Alex and Matt in the booth. It's a

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Speaker 2: big day. And my headline is things are changing. And

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Speaker 2: when I say things, I mean the weather for game day.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And the line.

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Speaker 4: Bad stuff coming back? Yeah, and the line the line

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Speaker 4: just keeps yo yoing weird.

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Speaker 2: So I was listening to your show yesterday and a

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Speaker 2: guy said that he thinks he was responsible for this

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Speaker 2: line change because he didn't he put down a million

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the line change was DraftKings.

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Speaker 3: I thought the line changes through all the lines.

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Speaker 4: No, different, different books have different spreads.

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Speaker 3: Well, they find out about the bet.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, but continue anyway.

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Speaker 2: One million dollars on the Patriots on the Patriot line,

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Speaker 2: on the Patriots money line, and if he does win

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Speaker 2: half of it, he's giving to the MSPCA. So all

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Speaker 2: the dogs in Massachusetts are rooting for the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: So on me the.

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Speaker 7: Sure too.

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Speaker 3: So No, but the line has changed now the Patriots

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Speaker 4: No, not not so fast, my friend.

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Speaker 3: What it's going back?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 7: What is it?

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Speaker 4: One and a half of Buffalo?

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Speaker 3: So it's gone back to Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: I've happened since then, I've given I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: But this is all money, right dictating this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know anything about this stuff. I

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Speaker 4: I was told by my inside source this morning, yeah

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Speaker 6: I don't know what it all means. Well, I think

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Speaker 2: That it's split and it's basically a toss basically as

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Speaker 2: as well it should be. I think I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: listen as much as I make fun of the Bills

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Speaker 3: I respect them.

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Speaker 4: I playing them this week, so we have to treat

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Speaker 10: Only only for the rest of the day.

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Speaker 2: I'm not bar I don't think Josh Allen sticks. I

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Speaker 5: Of all time. Yeah, I would, man, Yeah, that's high praise.

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Speaker 3: It is high praise.

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Speaker 7: What's he won?

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Speaker 3: What's he want?

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's a fair point to.

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Speaker 5: Made a super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: I think what's interesting to me is I've thought about

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Speaker 6: and these kind of big games were always about.

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Speaker 7: Can the Patriots keep it going? You know, can they

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Speaker 6: Be the favorite who everybody is, you know, thinking, is

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Speaker 6: It's now can the Patriots get over the hump? Can

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Speaker 6: And I think that's part of what's novel about this team,

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, yeah, I choked.

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Speaker 3: I just got to a little bit about talking about

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Speaker 7: I think I'm okay.

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Speaker 4: It's when him, but it's just different.

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Speaker 6: You think, like Buffalo is really more in that Patriots

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Speaker 7: But you know, it's not.

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Speaker 6: About taking care of business and doing what you've done.

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Speaker 4: You know. So it's just.

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Speaker 7: Interesting how you know, you're not I'm not really used

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Speaker 2: You know, what was the game in which the Patriots

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Speaker 3: In other words, and the end, like.

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Speaker 10: Was there a game in Tennessee.

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Speaker 5: To Miami in the last week of the season. I

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Speaker 2: But they didn't lose to the team that kind of dethroned,

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Speaker 7: It's a slow process, I think.

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Speaker 6: I mean, is there really like just one moment where,

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Speaker 4: Mike's point, maybe they weren't super Bowl caliber the way

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Speaker 5: Roster in eighteen was already decaying and physical literally like physically.

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Speaker 5: Were they weren't a great team in twenty eighth eighteen.

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Speaker 4: They were not.

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Speaker 5: They were and they flipped a switch in the playoffs

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Speaker 5: and Brady had one more last you know, throwback ride

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Speaker 5: in him in Kansas City. But that team was flawed.

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Speaker 5: I mean, their weapons were already starting to really show

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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen was just beating up on bad teams and

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Speaker 5: remember the story of twenty nineteen the Dolphins, the regular

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Speaker 5: season finale against the Dolphins. Apparently they had a fully

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Speaker 5: that's why I pointed to that Dolphins game because the

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Speaker 3: I know that that they had that practice?

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Speaker 2: I mean a reporter here, Yeah, no I know, But

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Speaker 2: like what was that reported at the time or I

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Speaker 2: think so really, yeah, that's what I'm asking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I wasn't aware of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they, you know, some people probably didn't take

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Speaker 5: too kindly to a week eighteen week seven million padded

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Speaker 4: They scored and we don't get to botch like that

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Speaker 5: I remember I was here with Barth on that Sunday

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Speaker 4: Did you have to explain to Barth what was going on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 4: Didn't there's any chance they would lose to Miami at home.

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Speaker 3: No one hated losing more than him. Yeah, So okay,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's interesting that that is probably that all

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Speaker 6: The end of the Patriot now, and I draw some

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Speaker 6: now and you know, needing to redefine themselves a little

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Speaker 6: then you draft Gronk and you get mccordy and et cetera,

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Speaker 6: Matt lacosse As you're you know, that's who Brady's number

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Speaker 6: Bird came like, you know, after that, like they just were.

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Speaker 5: Taking Ben Watson out of retire, Ben Watson out of retire,

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Speaker 5: Like there was just no plan I mean right like

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Speaker 7: Ed on the vine and they never replaced them.

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Speaker 6: And as guys left, they just didn't have the draft

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Speaker 5: And they didn't drafted tight end for like eight years,

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Speaker 6: Mahomes, could they go and get Mahomes like a Tyler

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Speaker 6: all right, Kelsey can go and now you know, we

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Speaker 7: But they got to hit. They got to hit on

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Speaker 4: They have to do a better job in the draft.

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Speaker 4: They have some players that they've gotten that have been

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Speaker 4: the key spots that that Mahomes has relied on have

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Speaker 4: But they'll be back.

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Speaker 2: So the good news is I think we're on the

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think this is the start of a rivalry.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if there's gonna be a changing of

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Speaker 6: I think that this is going to be the next

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Speaker 6: three to five years, two really competitive teams that are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Alan and may have a chance to be like

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Speaker 4: Maybe not with all the supervisions, but even better because right,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, exactly. So I think that that's what we're

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Speaker 5: more looking at, is that this is going to be

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Speaker 7: I was s thinking a little about Josh Allen too.

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Speaker 7: You know, yeah, there's some young upstarts like Drake May

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Speaker 6: But if I'm buff, I'm looking I mean, we're all

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Speaker 7: This is it.

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Speaker 2: This is the year.

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Speaker 7: We need to go to the super Bowl no matter

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Speaker 7: what and win it.

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Speaker 2: Are Yeah, it.

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Speaker 5: Reminds me a lot of the twenty four Celtics were

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Speaker 5: like the deck just like cleared, and it's like all

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Speaker 4: But two coms of the Celtics that you just mentioned

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I saw a comment that that Connor mc McGovern, yeah

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Speaker 4: I kind of chuckled at some of that. They're trying

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Speaker 4: all right, Buffalo. I mean you're the big dogs, like

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Speaker 4: play the underdog role. I don't think it's working very much,

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Speaker 5: Well, I also think that it's kind of not totally

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Speaker 5: I haven't played in Buffalo in big games. You know.

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Speaker 5: A lot of the free agents, said the Patriots brought

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Speaker 5: So I agree that David Drake May hasn't played in

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Speaker 5: You know, Landry you know was in Tennessee during those

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Speaker 2: The fact that Buffalo hasn't really well not has not

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Speaker 5: Can't keep on running at the Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, you dismissed them because of that because it's

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Speaker 3: You stink, right.

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Speaker 6: But if I'm Buffalo, I'm saying, this is our chance,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not dead.

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Speaker 4: So Buffalo, I think, is in a very similar situation

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's as bad, but like Keon

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Speaker 4: Teammates missed off the field, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if mc dermott's going to survive this. I do,

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Speaker 5: Just think, like, if you're if you're Buffalo, I just

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Speaker 5: because I think the roster is just as much to

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Speaker 2: Like, but can you really look at, you know, the

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Speaker 4: I think so, Oh, I think people people would, Oh,

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Speaker 4: get them over the hump, right.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's a bad coach, but like what

448
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 5: Paul just said, you know, is he the coach that's

449
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 5: going to get you to that next level? And when

450
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 5: you have the MVP of the league on your team,

451
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 5: you need to be at that next level. And it

452
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 5: just mcdermy might be the coach before the coach, Like,

453
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 5: if they get the right guy, then it might take off.

454
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 5: And I think you have to weigh that risk.

455
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's a copycat league in this year. You know,

456
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 2: at least three teams that I can think of brought

457
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 2: in new coaches and had pretty good success.

458
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,160
Speaker 4: You know, the three there's going to be three playoff

459
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 4: teams at least, right with Jacksonville, Chicago, Chicago and the

460
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 4: Patriots now Chicago. I think kind of teetering there.

461
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's a rough year.

462
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 4: It's roughly.

463
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 5: The coaching cycle doesn't look great like the available coaches.

464
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 7: What about Joe Brady is he?

465
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 6: I mean, you if you clean house, if you get

466
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 6: rid of McDermott, do you get a new offensive coordinator,

467
00:19:59,600 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 6: do you.

468
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 4: Put you well, likely he'll go. I mean, what are

469
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 4: the chances that a new coach is say no, I'm

470
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 4: going to keep you know, I would assume they generally

471
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 4: want their own guys.

472
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 5: I would assume they go. It would go offense too,

473
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 5: like their coach would be some Den Johnson whiz kid

474
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 5: that you know can coach up the.

475
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 4: Offense table will get brought up because of his relationship

476
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 4: with Alan Sure.

477
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Speaker 2: So I would like to see that Patriots practice yesterday.

478
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: We got the practice report and all the headlines on

479
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 2: Paul shows are.

480
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 3: Patriots are healthy?

481
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 2: Is that fair?

482
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: I mean with Milton Williams outy, Milt.

483
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 2: Campbell out and that's it. Stop but here, those are

484
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 2: two big players, you know, yeah.

485
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 4: But that's it. Everybody else came back. But I thought

486
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 4: that was a really encouraging practice.

487
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 5: It was one of the shortest it's been in a while.

488
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 5: You know, obviously this late in the season, that makes sense,

489
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 5: but it's a it was pretty short and like even

490
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 5: like Barmore, like he's on there, but like Barmore's thing

491
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 5: is different, like that's not an injury.

492
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Speaker 4: Every Wednesday, yeah.

493
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Speaker 5: And Thursday, for the most part. So it's just I

494
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 5: think really the only injury is what's going on at

495
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 5: running back with Terrell Jennings, and it's not a major thing.

496
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 5: I was talking to Alex about this off there earlier,

497
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 5: Like this Antonio Gibson injury has led to like a

498
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 5: big ripple effect on that room because like they've you know,

499
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 5: had to Earnis Johnson up from the practice squad. Then

500
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 5: they had Terrell Jennings up from the practice squad. Now

501
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 5: he's hurt and Johnson's out of elevation, so then he

502
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 5: needs to be signed to the roster to make him

503
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 5: eligible to play. So like they lost Antonio Gibson early

504
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 5: on in the season, and I think they've made probably

505
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 5: like a dozen transactions to try to cover that.

506
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 7: In yesterday, they're taking of practice squad are back.

507
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 4: It's just on this I understand it. There's not a

508
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 4: team in the league that wouldn't say, we'll deal with,

509
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 4: you know, having to worry about a third running back,

510
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 4: and we'll mix and match it. You know, we'll do

511
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 4: a couple of elevations for this guy. Then he's out

512
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 4: of elevations, we're gonna hold off. We're not gonna put

513
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 4: him on the Rod, We'll find another guy to put

514
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 4: some elevation is in and you know for the third run,

515
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 4: Like if Ray Davis wasn't playing in this game for

516
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 4: the Bills, you think they'd be losing sleep over.

517
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 5: I'm not losing carries someone that tracks all of these

518
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 5: things and writes about all these taction.

519
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 4: I'm not dismissing it as nothing, but every week it

520
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 4: kind of shows you how healthy they've been. Yeah, every week, I'm.

521
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 5: Writing about who the who's going to be the third

522
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 5: running back every week because it just has to change

523
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 5: because you have to write that up.

524
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 4: As much as you love to write the UH, I

525
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: do an active analysis.

526
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 5: I do that one not so much. Friday injury report

527
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 5: is low.

528
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Speaker 6: The abdomen I believe popped up on these report. I

529
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 6: mean that's and Harold Andry continues to be limited. So

530
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 6: that's to me, is is significant. I'm not sure he's

531
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Speaker 6: ever going to get if.

532
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 4: They were to lose Venerian low, that's significant. So now

533
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 4: you're really chipping away, and you know, I'm sure they

534
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 4: could they could scheme around it. But now you're talking

535
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 4: about some of these other teams. You're going down to

536
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 4: third and fourth tackles, fifth tackles.

537
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: That's when when you start having to scheme around your

538
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: left tackle, it's it's limiting you in your playbook.

539
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 4: Done it great though, they've done a great I think

540
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: Josh has done a great job of that all year.

541
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: It's such a contrast to what they did last year

542
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 4: when those guys both tackles were on islands like every

543
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 4: game and you see the difference between having a little

544
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 4: game plan that Evan's been talking about and that's how

545
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: you get by you just scheme around it.

546
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, Buffalo two on their injury report, cool Bishop the

547
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 6: safety and Kink.

548
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 7: We're full.

549
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 6: Terrell Bernard, Joey Bosa, Spencer Brown, and Palmer were all limited,

550
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 6: but a bunch of guys that.

551
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 4: They didn't practice though walked through. It was a walk

552
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 4: through estimate.

553
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 5: So those four guys are the big big four right

554
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 5: now for Buffalo. They've been in and out. Spencer Brown

555
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 5: said yesterday to the idea that he's going to play,

556
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 5: but the last time we saw him with the bump shoulder,

557
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 5: Will Anderson was eating his lunch, So I don't know

558
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 5: what he's going to you know what level play, you

559
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 5: know he's going to be at when he comes back

560
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 5: from the injury. And then you know, Paul is kind

561
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 5: of sneaky, you know, fast receiver to get down the

562
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 5: field a little bit something they don't have a ton of.

563
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

564
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Speaker 5: So Bernard's a huge part of their the second level

565
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 5: of their defense, their linebacker positions. So those guys have

566
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 5: been in and out of the lineup and Bosa to

567
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 5: uh and they need they're they're hoping that they come

568
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 5: back like those are not guys that they're overlooking and

569
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 5: like we are with Terrell Jennings and being like it's

570
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 5: the third running back. This is not that, this is

571
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 5: like starting caliber players.

572
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barton Poland's in the hospital recovering and listening, So

573
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 2: get better soon.

574
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: I get what was wrong, but.

575
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Speaker 4: I hope it's nothing too serious, Well.

576
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: Not bad enough to keep them from the type. Yeah,

577
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: so we can type. So it wasn't his fingers. But

578
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: get better, someone's hospital, visit and talk to text.

579
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 7: Yeah I wrote it. I'm not only feeling better, I'm

580
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 7: feeling amazing.

581
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Speaker 3: People.

582
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 6: Dark friend Freddie Fields is dark Freddy Fields today, Freddie Fields.

583
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 7: He dies? He dies?

584
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: All right?

585
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 3: What else? What else?

586
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: I got you in my heart part? I'm sorry? I can't.

587
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 4: I can't speak for the rest of my my crew here.

588
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 4: That's that's just, that's that's tough.

589
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: It is.

590
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: What else?

591
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: What else? We got Bill's bills?

592
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: Bills they're playing.

593
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 4: I don't know do we have there's no I just

594
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: I thought that was good development yesterday with the practice

595
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 4: report and getting some guys, you know, Tonga and h

596
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 4: In Wilson being full.

597
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 11: Especially because Wednesday is the day where they always just

598
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 11: got those veterman and rests, like load management days.

599
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 7: But I just I'd ask Alex and Evan if they agreed.

600
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 7: Yesterday the locker room felt like it was packed.

601
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 6: It felt like a play off game kind of to me,

602
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 6: like it's just so much media and yeah, hopefully the

603
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 6: energy will continue.

604
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 7: Sorry, Fred, seeing that the window.

605
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: Is closing and no, no, no, no, no, read it again,

606
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: you're not making.

607
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 10: The window is closed.

608
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: According to Albert.

609
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: This is this is like Bruce and sometimes we get tired.

610
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 5: R bars red in the face. Right now, the window is.

611
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 4: Closing, but brought since the window never opened. Yeah, I've

612
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: never seen anybody hate a team the way he hates Buffalo.

613
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 5: It's great, it's good. It's a good contrast because you know,

614
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 5: I kind of have a soft spot for for Josh Allen,

615
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: so kind of it's it's a good contrast.

616
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 6: I mean, we just saw the Patriots go from four

617
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 6: wins to eleven wins, and a lot of that was

618
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 6: based on quarterback play. I don't understand how you can

619
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 6: rule out any of these teams with the quarterbacks, like.

620
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 7: You know, like it's season with Josh Allen and Boom.

621
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it's all over for Baltimore and Kansas

622
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: City either, But if you wanted to make the argument

623
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: at six and seven for those two teams that this

624
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: is the beginning of the end, at least you have

625
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: something to go. Buffalo's nine and four. Like for all

626
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 4: the things that everybody says they can't do, and some

627
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: of them are true, like they can't stop the run

628
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: as one of them, they're nine and four. So I

629
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: don't know, like if it's the disaster that everybody else

630
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 4: makes Buffalo out to be, I don't think it's that bad.

631
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if if you believe in SIMS. But

632
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: I got some bad news for some people Patriots fans. Chris, Yeah,

633
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: the Patriots Buffalo sim I thought.

634
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 4: We were talking about. I would have been much more

635
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 4: interested in Chris Sims, who has been a staunch Patriots

636
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: supporter all year.

637
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: The Patriots lost the simulation game.

638
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: Oh oh, well, you know what that means.

639
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 5: I have receiats on Chris Simms.

640
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: I mean in all series and stuffs. Is there anyone

641
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: you don't have a receipt on?

642
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: He's squints, as he says it. I have received.

643
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 5: Somebody that ranked Drake may is the sixth best quarterback

644
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 5: in his draft class.

645
00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 7: Boom.

646
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 12: Well.

647
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 7: He always seemed really kind of hard on Brady and Bill.

648
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 6: I was always surprised by that initially, like he always was,

649
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 6: you know, having ranking had.

650
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: Something happened here.

651
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: You know, he worked here for a cup of coffee,

652
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: and I don't know if.

653
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: He's he came a season here and he spent more

654
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: time with us than with football, so I'm not sure

655
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: that was a good his career path. He would hang

656
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: out in the the old lunch room and play the

657
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: birthday game with us back in the day.

658
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 10: He still played the birthday game back then.

659
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 5: What's the birthday?

660
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob would go into the Boston Globe and find

661
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: out whose birthdays it was today, and you'd have to

662
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: guess how old.

663
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: How old.

664
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 10: Are going on decades?

665
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris spent a lot of time in the lunch

666
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: room with us. Great guy, was the immediately Fred Wright.

667
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: I think that that may have been an indication that

668
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: maybe wasn't going as well joing his actual job.

669
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 6: Did he still wear like the tight little button callers

670
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Speaker 6: that he that he's famous for?

671
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: Gotta love Patriots gear on all the time? Who's dressed like?

672
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Speaker 3: Not?

673
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: Not like you?

674
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Speaker 7: Was he like grilling you about media and what do

675
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 7: I gotta do? Paul? Talk to me? What can I

676
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 7: do to make a name for myself?

677
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: No, he was not growing me.

678
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Speaker 5: I have a controversial frankings sixty two.

679
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Speaker 7: No, wait, sixty one, sixty one.

680
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 4: You get two points for for hitting it on the head,

681
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: one point for me and the closest Jeopardy rules.

682
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: All right, well, we gotta do picks today, so we

683
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: gotta hurry. So let's get what.

684
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: Does jeopardy have to do with being over the strice?

685
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: Is right, but let's get people involved here sixty what

686
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: they have to say?

687
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: Stop talking? We'll go to the most interesting Patriots fan

688
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: in the world.

689
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: James Pettigrew was calling from Belize.

690
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: What's that are you getting?

691
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 7: Ready for me, James, I'm coming down.

692
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 13: I am getting ready for you.

693
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 7: All right, what are we doing?

694
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 13: We win a Super Bowl?

695
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Speaker 3: First? Okay, car dealership, I hate you that.

696
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Speaker 13: Unlike Fred, the main reason I'm calling is to slag

697
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 13: Evan off about analytics. Right now, what's going to get

698
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 13: into some argument about risk reward ratio. But what I

699
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 13: was thinking is a couple of years ago, one of

700
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 13: these NFL owners went to one of his Wall Street

701
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 13: mates who manages his money, and said, look, you've got

702
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 13: a lot of smart quantitative analysis. Why do you send

703
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 13: a few over to the football team. Because the first

704
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 13: thing about this is the smartest quantitative analysis in America

705
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 13: are not working for the NFL. They're working in Wall Street.

706
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 13: And any of these smart guys in the NFL, if

707
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 13: they can predict this stuff, why aren't they also working

708
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 13: on Wall Street. Now I can't see the kron Keys saying, oh,

709
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 13: this guy is really good quantitative analysis managing my money.

710
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 13: Let's send them to Sean McVay so he can help

711
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 13: with walk down conversion and that sort of thing. So

712
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 13: what you've got to ask these quantitive guys is why

713
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 13: aren't they working on Wall Street? And while are they

714
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 13: making loads of money. The last thing I think, which

715
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 13: is I think there's just a big stitch up between

716
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 13: Wall Street building the NFL is which team do you

717
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 13: think invest the most? And Analytics gets repeated rewards for

718
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 13: being the best team in analytics each year. If you

719
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 13: can't work it out, it's probably the easiest team you'd

720
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 13: want to pull the wool over their eyes and steal

721
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 13: money from.

722
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 5: What you're about to say is wrong, That's okay, go.

723
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 13: Ahead, No, No, well I was about to say it to

724
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 13: Cleveland Browns. Yeah, I know you're going to say that

725
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 13: in two thousand and three, two thousand and four, they

726
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 13: have the biggest staff and bigger that Look, this is

727
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 13: my only point. If these people are really brilliant, Evan,

728
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 13: why are they working on Wall Street making millions of

729
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 13: dollars and while the owners of these football teams taking

730
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 13: these brilliant people and saying, look, you can predict the future,

731
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 13: please look.

732
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 7: After my money.

733
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 5: Well maybe they just like football man.

734
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: No, they've always wanted to found a way to do it.

735
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know.

736
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: Like James, I love the argument, I don't know.

737
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 5: How like, why does any of us do any of

738
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: the jobs that we do because we we want to

739
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: work in the field that they want to work.

740
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: But if I had that brain, I'd be using it

741
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Speaker 2: to make a lot of money.

742
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I would just say that. You know, he

743
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: brought up the Browns. They always are the team that

744
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 5: gets brought up.

745
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: You know.

746
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 5: Paul Deepadesta just left the Browns to go back to baseball.

747
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: The Philadelphia Eagles are the most analytically driven team in

748
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Speaker 5: football and they just won the Super Bowl. So uh

749
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: they their front office.

750
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: I thought they won because they had a good offensive

751
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: and defensive line.

752
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: I didn't say it was the only reason that they won.

753
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: I said that they are very analytically treated. They're off,

754
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 5: so uh yeah they Howie Roseman their front office. They

755
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 5: have a huge analytics staff. They do a lot of

756
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 5: number crunching there. Cleveland does as well, and it hasn't

757
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 5: paid dividends for Cleveland like it has for Philadelphia. There's

758
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: no doubt about that. Look I I we can argue

759
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 5: about this all the time if we want. All thirty

760
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: two teams have analytics departments. All thirty two teams are

761
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Speaker 5: investing in analytics. All thirty two teams are using analytics

762
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 5: to drive decision making. So I understand not everybody is

763
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Speaker 5: going to be into it. Not every people are going

764
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: to be reluctant to it, and that's totally fine. This

765
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 5: is now a part of sports and really all sports,

766
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 5: you know, until it isn't. I just the infrastructures that

767
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: they've built across the for major sports leagues to then

768
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: just rip it all down, it just seems pretty unrealistic

769
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 5: to me. I mean, maybe they start going away from

770
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: it at some point.

771
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Speaker 2: But it's just the amount of emphasis, that's all. It'll

772
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Speaker 2: always be part of it.

773
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: I think the amount of emphasis has made more of

774
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Speaker 5: a bigger deal in the media than it is internally.

775
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 5: Maybe with all the teams, I think we make a

776
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 5: bigger deal out of it than they do.

777
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

778
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: So Ryan and Riley just writing about a University of

779
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania article that supports me in my argument.

780
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: But that's all right. I'm not going to get it.

781
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: To it because modesty, yeah, prevents you from getting into it.

782
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could I bring up a topic for discussion

783
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 6: that just the collective bargaining agreement and the officials.

784
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 7: Did you guys see that yesterday about this is all

785
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 7: we're talking about?

786
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is apart from Tom Pealisaro yesterday, the NFL's

787
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 6: collective bargaining agreement with officials is set to expire on

788
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 6: May thirty first, and trade in Some told owners today

789
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 6: that talks on a new deal have been unsuccessful as

790
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 6: the league pushes for a performance based model. Areas of

791
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 6: focus for the NFL and any new deal include gonn

792
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Speaker 6: This come from Tom Pelisaro. The league tying compensation to performance,

793
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Speaker 6: greater flexibility, giving the best performing officials postseason assignments, access

794
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 6: to more practice reps, extended probationary period to assess game officials,

795
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 6: and flexibility to remove those who are underperforming, shortening the

796
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 6: dead period that currently runs from the Super Bowl through

797
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 6: May fifteenth, and increasing the number of game officials to

798
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Speaker 6: develop a deeper bench.

799
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Speaker 4: Interesting, the bench thing is something they really need. Sense

800
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: of this.

801
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 5: Whole thing is that the stems from the league wanting

802
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 5: the officials to have more behind the scenes practice and

803
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 5: not make them full time. But right now there's you

804
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 5: can't the officials have a window that they're quote unquote

805
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: off limits to the NFL, and it's from like send

806
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 5: of the Sea Bowl, and so they're trying to negotiate

807
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 5: having more time in that window to give reps to

808
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 5: officials to practice officiating. But the hang up is what's

809
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: in it for the officials, Like are you going to

810
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: pay the refs for their time?

811
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: They should?

812
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 4: And I think that.

813
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 5: Has been the part that has been failed to collectively bargain,

814
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 5: is that the league is probably saying, yeah, I'll give

815
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 5: you some some you know, jelly of the month club memberships,

816
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: and they're saying no, no, no, we will, especially.

817
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 11: If it's like it's like incentive based contracts for reps

818
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 11: on performance too.

819
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 10: That's probably a huge.

820
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 7: Hang up, right, yeah, negotiation.

821
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: I'm old enough to remember and sow it's everyone here.

822
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: But when this last happened, they had the hold out

823
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: or the lockout or it wasn't a strike, right, it

824
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: was twelve with the Remember the Patriots Ravens game. Wasn't

825
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: that the Seahawks.

826
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: The game that ultimoil that ultimately ended it. Yeah, that

827
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: call ultimately ended it. But Bill assaulted a guy in

828
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: the field against the raven against the Ravens.

829
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they they screwed us.

830
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 5: Assaulted to a little.

831
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 7: But I kind of like he hit him. Yeah, this

832
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 7: felt like an at least hit him.

833
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: He hit his arm, punch him, but he made contact.

834
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Speaker 2: We went out to grab his arm. He needed to

835
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: get the guy was running away, come back and hit him.

836
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's poor a journalism, Paul.

837
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't say he punched him.

838
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: The ref he said he hit him.

839
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: He hit He didn't hit it in contact with him.

840
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: Okay, the ref was running away and he reached out

841
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 2: to grab his arm to get his attention.

842
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 4: Then bumped him.

843
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: No, that was our security card.

844
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: Oh no, oh no, that was That was a different time.

845
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 6: I left that one out, but I realized, this is

846
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 6: this the opening salvo of a negotiation.

847
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 7: But I at least in like the.

848
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 6: Fact that it seems like they're acknowledging that the performance

849
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 6: of the officials has not been acceptable in some instances

850
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 6: and that they're going to try try to take steps.

851
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: To you know, I thought I saw something recently that

852
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: they're working I think with the Big twelve, sort of

853
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: in conjunction with the Big twelve, trying to cultivate a bench,

854
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: you know, get some college guys that you know, are

855
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 4: looking to move up some kind of program, training program, program.

856
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 4: I just wonder, how like, how do you think twelve

857
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: would be a program you're right.

858
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 5: In Like March, they have like a summit and they're

859
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: like all right, like for a week, you guys are

860
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 5: going to come out and we're going to train you guys.

861
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: Oh there's no players, Like, so like what's the training that? Yeah,

862
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: Like it's not like a live game is happening, Like

863
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: are you going to the spring leagues? Like is that

864
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 5: where you're gonna.

865
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: Have never been a huge thing of everybody just automatically

866
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: blanket statement they need to be full time. Yeah, yeah,

867
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: And I just don't think that that's a fix, you know.

868
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: So what would Paul, what would your fix be?

869
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: They need to get better. I mean, there's no question

870
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: about that. But I like, but I like some of

871
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: the stuff that that Pallisera is reporting about performance. I know,

872
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: but like like there needs to be repercussions when you

873
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: call that play an incomplete past the other right, like

874
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: that replay guy who did nothing but mumbo jumbo and

875
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: his pool report needs to be called on the carpet

876
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: for that.

877
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: I hear that.

878
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: So do you think that makes them better? Like having

879
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: that threat that over their head hanging over their head?

880
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do when there's repercussions. So when you when

881
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: you do this, you better be right. But when you're

882
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: when you're turning over these.

883
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: Plays, oh, I know. Currently they are graded after every game.

884
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there needs to be more into that.

885
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 4: I think the expedited replay has worked for the most

886
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: the most part, I would agree.

887
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: I think that.

888
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: Hasn't made it a little bit better. You know, just

889
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 5: let's just get the obvious. It's gonna happen. It's fast,

890
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: the game moves really quick. It's hard to officiate, so

891
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: let's just get the obvious ones correcta see.

892
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: I think you know, and I joke about virtual reality,

893
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: but I do think there is a way to train

894
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: in the off season without a live game and using

895
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: virtual reality and giving them you know, you have two

896
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: seconds to make that call. You know, you're whether you're

897
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: wearing goggles or not, you're seeing it somehow and you

898
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: have to make the call. You're timed for accuracy, for speed.

899
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: I think there is a way to train now now nothing.

900
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: It can't hurt it. Training can't hurt, and.

901
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: You know that lends itself to Okay, make them full

902
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: time and make them train for all the time.

903
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 11: I don't know what if there were like a couple

904
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 11: that could be made full time, but you have to

905
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 11: earn it, and it's not just everyone's full time today,

906
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 11: but you can achieve tenured status or you achieve a

907
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 11: certain level. It encourages guys to put more work in

908
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 11: because they want to do that. But it's also not

909
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 11: just throwing money at everyone.

910
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: You know, so possibly, but it's got to be consistent

911
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: for every game, you know, So if you're going to

912
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: do that, then the crew has to be like, yeah,

913
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: at least one, you know, a minimum of two full

914
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: timers per game.

915
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: I think the expedited replay to me, is just it's

916
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 5: the way if we can perfect what it can and can't.

917
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: I agree, like why can't they?

918
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: It should be, you know, be better.

919
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 5: It should be absolutely everything everything that happens, I agree,

920
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 5: should be able to Hey, you call DPI spot foul

921
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 5: on this play. It's not DPI. We're picking up the flag,

922
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 5: you know, first and ten from the twenty five. Let's

923
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 5: go like, I don't know why that needs to be

924
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 5: And you.

925
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 11: Know they don't want to be like embarrassed or it's

926
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 11: like it feels like an ego thing because why wouldn't you?

927
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: But isn't it more embarrassing to get it wrong, Yeah,

928
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 5: because then it becomes a national story that they blew

929
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 5: some calls.

930
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 6: So like, yeah, as a as a referee myself, like

931
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 6: you just want to get it right, like you know,

932
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 6: if I was wrong or I missed something, or I

933
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 6: was late to something.

934
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 7: And I'm thinking a lot about like these.

935
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 6: You know, hockey ref seminars that have to do online,

936
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 6: and you know, it's a lot of like what we're

937
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 6: talking about getting reps and there's you know, we'll always

938
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 6: do segments in those seminars where they'll put a play

939
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 6: up and then they'll say, all right, what do you got?

940
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 6: And then in the chat, but you'll see and maybe

941
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 6: this is a hockey thing because I think hockey it's like,

942
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 6: all right, you could get an interference on that, that

943
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 6: could be a hook, you know, like there's some gray

944
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 6: area between the calls. But it's always interesting to me

945
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 6: how even the refs, everybody sees it a little different,

946
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 6: you know, and you know, what might be a major

947
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 6: penalty in hockey to some people, might you know, I

948
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 6: only got a minor on that one, you know, so

949
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 6: it is a little bit subjective, and I just and

950
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 6: that's how they do it. I imagine that's what the reps

951
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 6: do for the NFL, Like they probably do these same

952
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 6: kind of zoom calls where they play some videos and

953
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 6: they show stuff, but there's no replication of live game

954
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 6: reps and doing it live and having to make the

955
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 6: call and seeing it quick and recognizing it.

956
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 7: But it's it's it's a really hard job.

957
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 6: I just hope they can get to a point where

958
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 6: we all just feel like it's on the level.

959
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 7: And I think there have been times this year where

960
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 7: it hasn't fault on that.

961
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: I agree with Belichick when he said make everything reviewable.

962
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 2: Don't increase the number of times a team can review.

963
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: Make keep you can ca that's the same, but they

964
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: can challenge anything.

965
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the one thing that you might get

966
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 5: an advantage for with more experience is like holding, like

967
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 5: in the trenches offensive and defensive line.

968
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: You know, guys will use certain.

969
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 5: Techniques on the offensive line or you know, pass rush

970
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 5: moves or whatever, and it it like might look like

971
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: a hold, but like the guys that play the game

972
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 5: or have played the game would are like, that's not holding, right, Like,

973
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 5: you know, that's a rip move. He ripped through and

974
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 5: now he's in a compromised position, so it looks like holding,

975
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 5: but he did that to himself, like he put him there.

976
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: So maybe if you had some of this more full

977
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 5: time training, like these referees would know what a rip

978
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 5: move is and would understand like when that happens, like

979
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 5: that's not a hold, or like now it's the big

980
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: one is the snatch move where the guy just kind

981
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 5: of pulls the guy forward and you know, pulls the

982
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 5: table out from underneath him, and they're calling that holds

983
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: a lot of the time. But that's like a technique

984
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: that's being coached to the offensive line. So that's like

985
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 5: a football play, Like that's not you know, it's not

986
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 5: like holding, like when you get outside the frame and

987
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: you're pulling guys down. So I wonder if maybe some

988
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 5: of those things, like well, what.

989
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 2: Would you think about the incorporation of the delayed call,

990
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: so in other words, like lacrosse flags down, But if

991
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: it yeah, if it doesn't have any bearing on the play, okay,

992
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: forget it, and they do the same thing.

993
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: All right, I saw this hold way over there. I'm

994
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: gonna throw the flag delayed call.

995
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: But at the end of the play, if it didn't

996
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: have anything to do with the play, then I'll pick

997
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: it up.

998
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

999
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, so there was a I hate it.

1000
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: I like to I could hear more about it, because.

1001
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: There was a play for the Patriots a couple of

1002
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 5: weeks ago that Jack Westover got called for a hole

1003
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 5: that wiped out like a twenty yard run, and as

1004
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 5: the ball was already like ten yards past Jack Westover,

1005
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 5: he took out, he took down his guy.

1006
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: But I also think it was a bad call, and well.

1007
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: But that but the point that I'm trying to make

1008
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 5: is that not only was that kind of an if

1009
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: he call it also but he already blocked the guy

1010
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 5: like it had no bearing whatsoever on the play. But

1011
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: maybe by the letter of the LAE it was a hold,

1012
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 5: but it was a hole that happened ten yards away

1013
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 5: from the actual ball.

1014
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe okay, so maybe on these delayed calls,

1015
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't have a bearing, so you don't

1016
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: negate the play. But the player that committed the penalty

1017
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: has to sit out of play.

1018
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: So they played ten on eleven.

1019
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: No, you could substitute, but no, it could be your

1020
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: left You can sit on the side.

1021
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: Play.

1022
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: Yes, it could be your best left tackle that has

1023
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: to sit out of play because you.

1024
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: Know, it's a little like the uncatchable thing, you know,

1025
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 6: where it's like it would have been but he wasn't catchable.

1026
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: They don't seem to call that anymore, and like, I

1027
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: hate That's one of my rules that I hate the most,

1028
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: just because I've seen too many ridiculous catches.

1029
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just don't know.

1030
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 4: Can I ask you when you go to practice during

1031
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 4: the course of the season, is there ever any refs

1032
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: out there?

1033
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 5: Not during the course of the season.

1034
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 4: So I was watching whatever the version of hard knocks

1035
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: in season is.

1036
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 7: Is that what they call it now?

1037
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1038
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's an NFC East. I was watching

1039
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: the Giants a little bit. It was the week the

1040
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: Patriots were playing the Giants, and there was an official

1041
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: out there. I didn't remember there being officials at practices

1042
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: during the course of the season, but this was might

1043
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 4: be a way. Yeah, Like Jackson Dartt was talking to

1044
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: the one of the offensive coaches and it was a ref.

1045
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 5: I've never seen a ref in uniform. Maybe they're coming

1046
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: and hanging out and saying, like, you know, so guys

1047
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 5: can off to the side can say hey, like I

1048
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 5: got a question for you, like, you know, is this

1049
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 5: is this holding or is that I.

1050
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 4: Also wonder if it was an actual current NFL ref

1051
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: or maybe someone.

1052
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 5: Jean Horror was there.

1053
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, like maybe someone who's looking to work his way

1054
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: up and he's trying to get some practices, you know whatever.

1055
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 6: I'd kind of like to see that the elimination of

1056
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 6: that points of emphasis where you get in the preseason

1057
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 6: and everybody's getting called for this one random penalty, and.

1058
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: Then you get to the season and it kind of

1059
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: that would be part of the whole thing. We've gone

1060
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: a while on this, but just simplifying the rule book

1061
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: a little bit, and like I've kind of ranted a

1062
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: little bit about the two guys in motion, right so

1063
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 4: now the second guy is finishing his shift and he's

1064
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: not quite set for a full second flag, Like can

1065
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: we eliminate these things? You know? Can we allow the

1066
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: tackle to maybe be offset a little bit from time

1067
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: to time as long as he's not egregiously in the backfield,

1068
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: like if he's like way behind, everybody call that. But

1069
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 4: those rules were all put in play to clarify things

1070
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 4: for the defense. That's why there was the sort of

1071
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: implementation of like you need seven guys on the line

1072
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 4: of scrimmage and there's only certain amount of guys that

1073
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 4: are eligible. Was all to make things a little bit

1074
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: easier for the defense to understand who they had to cover.

1075
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: Like if the tackle is a little bit off set,

1076
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 4: no one thinks, well, he's off the line, he's eligible,

1077
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: Like you're not. You know, I understand you're getting an

1078
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 4: advantage in pass protection because that's why the guys do it,

1079
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: is because they don't trust their past sets and whatnot.

1080
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: But some of those little things, I think they could

1081
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: make it a lot easier for the referees them because

1082
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 4: it's not an easy thing to do. As much criticism

1083
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 4: as I give my I recognize that it's a hard

1084
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: sport to officiate.

1085
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 5: I think the offensive line alignment thing is important because

1086
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 5: of what it gives them a head start. But the

1087
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 5: one that bugs me the most, that wipes out more

1088
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 5: big plays across the league is the illegal shift. Yes,

1089
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: and I still have not heard a great explanation as

1090
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 5: to what major advantage the offense is getting that Hunter

1091
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: Henry is like finishing his shift in his like feet

1092
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 5: aren't totally set, and that somehow is some huge advantage

1093
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 5: to the offense.

1094
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 2: Also, what we're seeing though, is people like making that mistake.

1095
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: If you eliminate the rule, now think of what teams

1096
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: can do well.

1097
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 5: But I think the important part of the.

1098
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: What's the big deal have three guys in motion?

1099
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, you'll only have one guy in motion at

1100
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: a time.

1101
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1102
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 5: The important part of the rule that is in that

1103
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 5: needs to stay in is that you can't be motioning

1104
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 5: towards the line of scrimmage. Is an arena football, right,

1105
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 5: you can't get a running start at the line of scrimmage.

1106
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 5: But he's not getting a running start.

1107
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 4: He's that play in the Monday night game that wiped

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Speaker 4: out a touchdown that had nothing to do with the play.

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Speaker 5: It has more big plays get taken off the board

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00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 5: because of illegal shifts than any other penalty that that

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00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 5: like that you know, pre snap procedural penalty.

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Speaker 4: I think they can simplify things.

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Speaker 2: And you know, and then not the least all catch

1114
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: with the all the mobile quarterbacks extending plays is the

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00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: ineligible man down field too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's another one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and now when I you know that's that rule

1119
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 5: is different from the college rule, which I like because

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Speaker 5: in college you get these RPOs or these linemen are

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Speaker 5: like eight yards down the field. It's like, this is ridiculous, Like,

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00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 5: how are you supposed to defend that? But now you're right,

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Speaker 5: you know, there was a play I think it might

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Speaker 5: have been the Giants game too, where Drake slid in

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Speaker 5: bounds and took a sack and it was a screen,

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Speaker 5: it was supposed to be a screen and the screen

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00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 5: got blown up. But he couldn't throw the past because

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Speaker 5: there was linemen down the field. So if he had

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Speaker 5: thrown the pass then he would have gotten called for

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Speaker 5: a legal man down the field. So instead of having

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Speaker 5: to throw the ball away, he ended up taking a hit,

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Speaker 5: you know, in a sack to you know, not avoid

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00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 5: the to avoid the penalties. So that rule I kind

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00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 5: of liked. But the shifts need to they need to

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Speaker 5: do something about the shifting. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see what people have to say. Sam's

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00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: an Easton. Hey Sam, Hey you guys, that's going.

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Speaker 12: Good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I had a question for you guys, but first I

1141
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 14: wanted to say shout out to Ludlow. I know Alex

1142
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 14: is from there. I'm from Wolverham initially, and I heard

1143
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 14: you guys snickering about Western Mass a little bit last

1144
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 14: week A little bit, Yeah, but.

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00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: The mass considered central Mass or is that Western Mass?

1146
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: Western Western?

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00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 14: Yeah? But I want to know, like what your guys

1148
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 14: game day was like and the element of being a

1149
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 14: fan having to miss out on you know, watching with

1150
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 14: your friends, tailgating, having beers. What's that like for you guys.

1151
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 14: I've always wondered that.

1152
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: Well, from my experience, what's the worst part of the

1153
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: job for you?

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Speaker 6: No, well, I mean when I started this, like blogging

1155
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 6: and stuff, like, I was in California by myself, and

1156
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 6: that was why I love Twitter back then, just because

1157
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 6: that was my connection. But a lot of the games

1158
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 6: I would watch by myself, Like I would work for

1159
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 6: Bleacher Report doing live blogs during the game, and so

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Speaker 6: I didn't really like there were times when I went

1161
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 6: to the bar and watch with people, but I never

1162
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 6: really I mean other than growing watching games growing up

1163
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 6: with my family, you know, I never really had like

1164
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 6: a group of.

1165
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 7: Guys that we went into Patriot games and watch.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I am jealous when I walked through the

1167
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 6: parking lot and I think, man, it'd be great to

1168
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 6: just have a couple of drinks and a sausage and

1169
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 6: you know, watch the game and not.

1170
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 7: Have to worry about, you know, working. But it's I mean,

1171
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 7: it's different, but I enjoy it in a different way.

1172
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 4: We were driving in today I had you know, I

1173
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: mentioned my son's here today and he went to the

1174
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 4: Monday night game against the Giants. He went with my

1175
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: brother in law and my nephew. They had about twelve

1176
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 4: of them. Right, So we're driveing in just now and

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Speaker 4: he's like, yeah, we were right over there. He goes,

1178
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 4: it was like absolutely electric. It was such a cool night.

1179
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: The vibe was so cool, and you know, they had

1180
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: all this food and stuff. And that's to answer the

1181
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: question in one sentence. I was jealous of my son,

1182
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: you know, like just being able to enjoy it that way.

1183
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 4: It's been a long time.

1184
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 5: I watched the first sixteen years of the Dynasty with

1185
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 5: my dad, and then I started covering the team in

1186
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 5: two thousand and eight.

1187
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: So like to make a documentary about it.

1188
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 5: Doubt for both of us, that was hard, Like it

1189
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 5: was hard to Now I'm working on Sunday and he's

1190
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 5: at home watching the game, and we literally every Sunday

1191
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: it was me and him on the on the couch

1192
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 5: watching every page.

1193
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: I regret the boast is I haven't been able to

1194
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: cheer for the Patriots, and over thirty years, Fred.

1195
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 7: You're sure for the pat during the game. I see

1196
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 7: we sit next to you in the press.

1197
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm more professional than.

1198
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 4: I will say that you stay reasonably quiet?

1199
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: Do you hear it?

1200
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 3: Because you're sitting next to the reason.

1201
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 4: But it's more in your point, it's really more about

1202
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: when bad things it's.

1203
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do that.

1204
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of heavy sign there is. There's a

1205
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: lot of heavy sign.

1206
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 5: That's when I get nervous when Fred starts heavy signing.

1207
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, yeah, there's a lot of heavy nothing.

1208
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: You know, back to the officials, there's nothing like the

1209
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 4: meaningless defensive hole call on third down against the Patriots

1210
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 4: on the complete opposite side of the field.

1211
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 3: But ridiculous.

1212
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 4: And then he just like goes back.

1213
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: To well, then I have to tell you that's ridiculous.

1214
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: All right, thanks Sam.

1215
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 6: Against the Giants, there was somebody from I don't know

1216
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 6: if this Joint Giants organization or in the press corps,

1217
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 6: but like on that would they take the first touchdown

1218
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 6: to they score the they scored first or something, don't know,

1219
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 6: they had a touchdown for right, they were all stunned,

1220
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 6: and they were.

1221
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 7: And well, no, he was kind of like there we go.

1222
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 7: And then he like went down the line and like

1223
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 7: kind of like what tapping everybody here?

1224
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1225
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, And then I just watched like the slow descent

1226
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 6: into a loss, like you know, and like by the

1227
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 6: end he's just like face bombing on the desk.

1228
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 10: We had a lot of funny and I had a

1229
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 10: lot of and a show.

1230
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 11: Had a lot of like giants guys right behind us

1231
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 11: on like the dining chairs and stuff, and they were

1232
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 11: pretty quiet, like they weren't like really cheering.

1233
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 10: But once the Marcus Jones play happened, we were.

1234
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: Just like yeah, yeah, like so where we sit.

1235
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: We're on the third level. It's tears. There's three tiers

1236
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: and we're on the third level and if you go

1237
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: down and to our right is almost the visiting team PR.

1238
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: So I was when there's a good play, I was,

1239
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: see what's going on down there?

1240
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 4: It's nothing if not a gracious winner.

1241
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

1242
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 6: It's always interesting in the press. Like just last you know,

1243
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 6: last game, we had you know, John Marra walks through,

1244
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 6: you know, we get held up, but yeah, happened, you know, you.

1245
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 5: See the GMS elevator for the ownership group, Like we

1246
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 5: got a job to do, you're in my way, Like

1247
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 5: now we have to wait for the elevator and like

1248
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 5: then you're late to the press conferences because the maras

1249
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 5: had to go through. It's like, can we get it

1250
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 5: of the team?

1251
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 7: Jerry Jones was a good one whenever the Cowboys were here.

1252
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 6: Remember that when we were like coming in after the

1253
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 6: pregame show and like all of a sudden, it's just

1254
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 6: a mob of people, Jerry Jones going up. But it

1255
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 6: was weird to me that they sit in the press

1256
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 6: boxes that just access to like as.

1257
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: To get to.

1258
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 3: Or wherever their VIP sedan is they have to go through.

1259
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 10: It's always weird for all their security. It's right out

1260
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 10: here's how they all get out.

1261
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 7: Strange to see, like, you know, even when I see

1262
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 7: Elliott Wolf, like you know, in the halftime and you're

1263
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 7: like like.

1264
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 10: Every week, you're just like they're getting into.

1265
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: The meadowlands or whatever they call it now at halftime,

1266
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: the visiting team literally has to sprint through the press

1267
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: box to get down to the locker rooms and you know,

1268
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: so that they can be there for the halftime whatever

1269
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: they're doing, you know, but it's a mad dash for them.

1270
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Speaker 3: Maybe we should in the Jersey.

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Speaker 7: You can just.

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Speaker 3: Nate's in Connecticut. What's up, Nate? Nate, it's up night,

1273
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Speaker 3: It's not all right?

1274
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Speaker 6: together the way these guys did, there's no limit to

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Speaker 6: what you can do. Now forty years later, we're going

1325
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 6: back to revisit the team changed everything.

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00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: That eighty five season really put us in the spotlight

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00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: of Boston and Massachusetts.

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00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: In New England.

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00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 15: We were the first whoever breakthrough in the playoffs and

1330
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 15: breakthrough could get to the super Bowl.

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00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 4: We're the first team to ever go to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 12: Let Mary road trip.

1333
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: We were the very first to get this franchise to

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Speaker 2: a super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Here reflections from the players and coaches who lived in Raymond.

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Speaker 19: Barry brought that team together and he was the reason,

1337
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 19: there's one question about he was the reason we got

1338
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 19: to the super Bowl. And we had a lot of

1339
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 19: fun getting them.

1340
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 18: Know you, man, they were a special grip in roll

1341
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 18: right because they were well grounded, and they came to

1342
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 18: the mentality that of what it really does came to

1343
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 18: stay a good football.

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00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 6: Mixed with the unforgettable sounds of the nineteen eighty five season, Stakes.

1345
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: Did Jakes's Day, Baby, I'm too young.

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00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 6: To remove that in body from the fumble drills and

1347
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 6: the goldpulst walking down Route one to squish the fish

1348
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Speaker 6: and bury the Bears. Join us for another edition of

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Speaker 6: the Patriots Super Bowl Sound Odyssey nineteen eighty five, a

1350
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 6: ten part podcast available starting this December on all Patriots platforms.

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00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 6: All right, we're excited now to be joined by Andy Borroglis,

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00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 6: Patriots kicker. Andy, thanks for stopping in here after practice.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.

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00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 7: How was your bye week?

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Speaker 20: First off, you know, it was good. Went back home,

1356
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 20: got away from the cold for a little bit. I

1357
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 20: actually kind of missed it. Came back and it was exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: I had fun down there. It was really just with family.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we were in the locker room today and I

1360
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 6: don't know if you felt this, but I just felt

1361
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 6: like the energy was the notch. Obviously, big game this

1362
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 6: weekend with the Bills, a division title on the on

1363
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Speaker 6: the line. I mean, did you feel have you felt

1364
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Speaker 6: a little optic here. As we get into December and

1365
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Speaker 6: things start to, you know, get a little bit more serious.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely. I mean we'really just trying to take it,

1367
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Speaker 20: you know, game by game. I mean we're we're just

1368
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Speaker 20: excited to play. I think that's that's why the energy

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Speaker 20: is a little different. You know, we we haven't played

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Speaker 20: in a week, so pretty much two weeks then we'll play.

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Speaker 20: But you know, we're just excited just to go out

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Speaker 20: there and have fun.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned you missed the cold.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we don't miss the cold.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just because I'm new to it.

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Speaker 20: But you know, it was I think it was like

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Speaker 20: eighty five degrees on there, nice and I was like,

1378
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Speaker 20: I was like, dang, like kind of kind of missed

1379
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Speaker 20: when it was a little chilly.

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Speaker 5: I like that. I like that. What goes into preparing

1381
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Speaker 5: to kicking these conditions though? Up here? Obviously cold winds, snow.

1382
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Speaker 5: Does it change anything about how you approach your job?

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Speaker 1: Not much.

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Speaker 20: Just really just be aware of of like your surroundings,

1385
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Speaker 20: like the weather, of the wind, whatever it is, you know,

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Speaker 20: because that's something I can't control, so it's not something

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Speaker 20: that I can really I guess plan for or prepare

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Speaker 20: for to really just go out there and keep my

1389
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Speaker 20: same routine and just adjust to whatever, you know, temperature, weather,

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Speaker 20: however it is, just adjust to it.

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Speaker 5: Does it help practicing in the stadium? You guys kick

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Speaker 5: in the stadium pretty frequently? Does that help with like

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Speaker 5: you know the wind direction and all that stuff and

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Speaker 5: kind of knowing that for game day?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely, especially like if it's like a really windy day,

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Speaker 20: We'll go in the stadium and you know, just hit

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Speaker 20: a couple and then you know, feel it out and

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Speaker 20: it definitely gives me an advantage just because I know

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Speaker 20: the tendencies of the wind in that stadium and stuff

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Speaker 20: like that.

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Speaker 7: Bill's coming back around.

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Speaker 6: Probably the biggest kick your season was against these guys

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Speaker 6: last time. Just how you develop that skill as a

1404
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Speaker 6: kicker when you come on and you know it's a

1405
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 6: it's a big kick. How do you maintain your focus

1406
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Speaker 6: and you know, just being able to avoid the pressure

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Speaker 6: of all that.

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Speaker 1: I mean realistically, I just try to, you know, stay

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Speaker 1: level headed.

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Speaker 20: I like to say, like just stay neutral, don't get

1411
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Speaker 20: too high, don't get too low, and really just go

1412
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Speaker 20: out there and you know, I'm I'm here for a reason.

1413
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Speaker 20: You know, God, God put me in this position to

1414
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Speaker 20: you know, showcase what the blessings that he gave me

1415
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Speaker 20: and just trying to be a blessing and go out

1416
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Speaker 20: there and do my job.

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Speaker 6: Was it was a process for you being able to

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Speaker 6: do that, you know, when you started your career, started

1419
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Speaker 6: playing this game as a young guy. And I mean,

1420
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Speaker 6: is it you know, is that a skill you can

1421
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Speaker 6: work on? That mental toughness.

1422
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Speaker 1: I feel like you can. You definitely can.

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Speaker 20: But you know there's there's some aspect where it's definitely

1424
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Speaker 20: just inherited. I guess you could say, you know, because

1425
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Speaker 20: some people you know, just can't handle it. I guess

1426
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Speaker 20: you could say, and some people can handle it better

1427
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Speaker 20: than others. But you know, in the position that that

1428
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Speaker 20: I chose to play, you know, it happens to it

1429
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 20: comes with a job, right, But yeah, it's exciting though.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, going back to that that Week five kick again,

1431
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Speaker 5: are you when you're on the sideline and Drake's driving,

1432
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 5: are you watching him? Are you getting ready to kick

1433
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 5: the ball? Like what what's kind of going through your head?

1434
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,959
Speaker 5: What's your process as He's trying to put you guys

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Speaker 5: into into range to have you kicked that.

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Speaker 20: Really, I'm I'm kicking into the net, just staying warm,

1437
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 20: staying ready. And then once we're we're in field goal range,

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Speaker 20: I'll still I'll kind of be, you know, paying attention

1439
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 20: to what down it is, the clock and if we

1440
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 20: have a timeout or not, and things like that, and

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Speaker 20: if we do have a time out, I'll kind of

1442
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 20: be a little bit more like calm just because we

1443
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 20: don't have to, you know, rush out there right and

1444
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Speaker 20: really just unless it's third down, like I'm I'm at

1445
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 20: the net just kicking. But once third down hits, like,

1446
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 20: I'm right on the sideline just getting ready to go

1447
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 20: out there.

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Speaker 7: Travon one.

1449
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 6: You know, NFL Rookie of the Month, you want an

1450
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 6: AFC Special Teams Player of the week.

1451
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 7: This rookie class really made an impact this year, you know.

1452
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 6: And remember talking to Jeremy Springer in the spring and

1453
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 6: him saying when they were looking at kickers, you know,

1454
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 6: I want a guy who can come in and be

1455
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 6: one of the guys.

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Speaker 7: It's not just you, it's Julian too on Special Teams.

1457
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Speaker 6: What can you say about this, this rookie class and

1458
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 6: how you guys have all come together here.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 20: Obviously it's the working class that I came in with,

1462
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 20: and you know, I can't really speak for any other

1463
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 20: bricky class, but I feel like we we definitely came

1464
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 20: in here and just put our heads down and went

1465
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Speaker 20: to work. You know, just we we knew our role

1466
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 20: and we're just playing our role. And you know, just

1467
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Speaker 20: again just being a blessing you.

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Speaker 5: Julian and Bryce are like attached to the hip, I'm sure,

1469
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Speaker 5: just always together. I think Rabel mentioned that a couple of.

1470
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Speaker 7: Weeks ago, always together, just once.

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Speaker 5: It been like just working with those three guys and

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Speaker 5: how much is Bryce, you know, being a little bit

1473
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 5: a veteran in a little bit here and have some

1474
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 5: experience in the league helped you out.

1475
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been awesome.

1476
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 20: I mean me and Julian we did pre draft together,

1477
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 20: so I've been with him since January.

1478
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Speaker 2: Of last year or not second of him yet, how

1479
01:04:59,480 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: I am.

1480
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Speaker 1: I love him and love Bryce too.

1481
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Speaker 20: And Bryce has really helped us, you know, kind of

1482
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 20: just get grounded and be like, look, yeah, you're you're

1483
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 20: in the NFL, but there's still work to do, and

1484
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 20: and he definitely helps us with just the mentality of

1485
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 20: you know, of being a NFL.

1486
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: Player and really just learning how to be a pro.

1487
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Speaker 6: Last time for me, Andy, Now, one of my favorite

1488
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 6: videos from the summer was your I think it was

1489
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 6: your girlfriend surprising you. My wife, your wife, sorry, your

1490
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 6: wife surprising you with a dog out of nowhere.

1491
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Speaker 7: I want to check you in. I'm a new dog

1492
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 7: dad myself this year.

1493
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 4: Evan's a big dog.

1494
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 7: He's got a big dog as well. So you know,

1495
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 7: how are things going there in the household with four dogs?

1496
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Speaker 2: Is that?

1497
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 7: Four dogs?

1498
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: You know?

1499
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,479
Speaker 1: It's great.

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01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 20: Does get a little hectic at times, but you know

1501
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 20: what wouldn't change the thing? You know, our little docs

1502
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 20: and his name is Kane. He's he's the alpha. He's

1503
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 20: the alpha, even though he's the smallest. But he'll he'll

1504
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 20: show some teeth.

1505
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a cheweiny half docks and house always.

1506
01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.

1507
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 20: Yeah, and then you know he he bosses around, you know,

1508
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 20: our doberman. So it's funny to see, but it's awesome.

1509
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 5: It's always the little ones that think that they're the

1510
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 5: big ones and they like come out. And then my

1511
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 5: dog Alice, he's a Rhodesian ridgeback, so he's ninety five pounds,

1512
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 5: so little. These little ones will like, you know, act

1513
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 5: like they're the big dogs, and then they'll give him

1514
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 5: one like growl and they're like, okay.

1515
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 20: Yeah, see my my dog. He doesn't he stays, he

1516
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 20: stands his ground. Yeah, no, he'll I remember once came

1517
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 20: downstairs and they're fighting. I was like, all right, whatever,

1518
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 20: next thing, you know, I just see him bite the

1519
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 20: Dobman's like lit and I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah,

1520
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 20: and then he's just like ground. He's like I'm like,

1521
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 20: dude's just just stop. I'm like, he's one hundred and

1522
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 20: ten pounds. You're twenty pounds on like a heavy you

1523
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 20: know you ate good type of day. Yeah, but you know,

1524
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,959
Speaker 20: it's it's awesome. It's it's definitely something to look forward

1525
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:55,959
Speaker 20: to every single day.

1526
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 4: So yeah, are you always just chill?

1527
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 5: Because I feel like, as a kicker, this is a

1528
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 5: pretty good trait to have that.

1529
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: Pretty much, I try to be mellow.

1530
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 7: Just yeah.

1531
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: Again, don't get too high, don't get too low.

1532
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, awesome.

1533
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 6: Well, hey, great, great, good luck this weekend against the Bills,

1534
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 6: and thanks for sitting down.

1535
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: With us, thank you, And now great moments in.

1536
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Speaker 3: History.

1537
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 4: She's trying to make the point that the Eagles lost

1538
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 4: Super Bowl thirty nine because because Bill told the Patriots

1539
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 4: that the Eagles were planning their parade.

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Speaker 21: Room right, and big, big secret I'm gonna let out

1541
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 21: of the box here. Every team that's in the Super Bowl,

1542
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 21: they're behind the scenes are planning for the parade.

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Speaker 7: Legist.

1544
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're not supposed to say everybody does that.

1545
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 16: It's also crazy too, what a lot of people you

1546
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 16: don't know.

1547
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 5: Every team that's in the AFC Championship game, people behind

1548
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 5: the scenes are planning for if we're.

1549
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: Going to go to this.

1550
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 21: Yeah, exactly, because if you don't your negligent. Yes, everybody's

1551
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 21: doing it.

1552
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 7: It's bad luck.

1553
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be the show if Eric didn't scold someone.

1554
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 7: That's another great moment, Milker.

1555
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: Go ahead, dude, I almost am I almost.

1556
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 7: That's right, Fred.

1557
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 6: It's time for the co pilot question that'll be presented

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Speaker 6: by Microsoft Copilo, where every day is game day and

1559
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 6: where every decision is powered by insight innovation. Microsoft technology

1560
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 6: helps to make decisions faster, insights sharper, and strategies more adaptive.

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Speaker 6: And guys, we're talking AFC East Championships today. Patriots have

1562
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 6: a chance for it. So my first question for you

1563
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 6: is can you name the AFC East championships prior to

1564
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 6: two thousand and one. We all know they went on

1565
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 6: a big run two thousand and one onto you know,

1566
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 6: the dynasty years, But before that, how many did they win?

1567
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 3: Paul?

1568
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: Oh?

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01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:39,520
Speaker 4: Altogether?

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 7: Well, just can you name what what they were two

1571
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 7: thousand and one? There weren't too many.

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01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 4: Seventy eight, yes, eighty six, yes, ninety six, Yeah, I'm

1573
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 4: missing one, ninety seven, oh ninety seven.

1574
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 7: There you go four times.

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 6: And last part of this question though, is when was

1576
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 6: the earliest that they clinched the AFC East?

1577
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 8: Oh?

1578
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 4: Seven?

1579
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 2: What happens to be right?

1580
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were undefeated. You know a week could happen.

1581
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 10: I'll do it.

1582
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 4: Eleven, week eleven.

1583
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 7: Wow, See this is why we always have to help

1584
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 7: through week elevel.

1585
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: They were undefeated, I know, but still week eleven out

1586
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: of sixteen games?

1587
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:19,839
Speaker 10: Well, how soon can you clinch?

1588
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 4: Like soon does someone lost six games week eleven? Because

1589
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 4: when you're eleven and zero, the worst you can go

1590
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 4: was eleven and five. So as long as someone had six,

1591
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 4: if everybody else had six losses, you clinch.

1592
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I mean you know looking back, you see

1593
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 6: they got division championship in the seventies, division champion in

1594
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 6: the eighties, couple in the nineties. We know what happened

1595
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 6: in the twenty and the twenty ten. So now in

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 6: the twenty twenties.

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Speaker 7: I think it's time to get one. What do you

1598
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 7: guys think.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 2: And that reminds me. I have I flagged an email

1601
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 2: here that I want to read. This is from Justin

1602
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: and he says, Patriots Nation, listen up. I know we

1603
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: were four thirteen the last two seasons. We stunk worse

1604
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: than your grandpa cologne. Today, though, is a new day.

1605
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five Patriots are eleven and two. We

1606
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: have a stud quarterback, We have talent all over the field.

1607
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: We have a great coaching staff. Most importantly, we have

1608
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: a chance to beat the freaking Buffalo Bills in week

1609
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: fifteen to win the division at home. Let's go, get hyped,

1610
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: get psyche. The boys are back, the Patriots are back.

1611
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: Let's turn that bison into ground meat this weekend and

1612
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: get those hats and T shirts.

1613
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: This is what we live for as fans. Get all

1614
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: this negative talk Audi.

1615
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 2: Here, it's time to get back to what is rightfully

1616
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: ours and kick the crap out of Buffalo, well said

1617
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: justin we go, thank you so good stuff.

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 7: You're ready to run through a wall Outice? Was that

1619
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 7: ritt in all caps, a lot of exclamation points.

1620
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: Fred captures the spirit of youth and the way he

1621
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 2: reads it. I love good stuff, Brooklyn. A great discussion

1622
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: of analytics yesterday and today. I just want to add

1623
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: a couple of things. One, Evan is excellent at f

1624
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: film review, not just analytics. So does he mean he's

1625
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: good at film root or not at analytics or maybe both.

1626
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1627
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 10: He's analyzing the thing.

1628
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 4: I think he's given him a complimen saying he's really

1629
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 4: good at film reviewer ask.

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: Two totally agree with Paul that analytics have enhanced the

1631
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 2: game verse nineteen eighty style punting from the opponent's forty

1632
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Speaker 2: I agree with that. Three, having said that, particularly for Yes,

1633
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: no outcomes with major consequences. Nothing replaces good judgment. Vrabel

1634
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: and company have killed it, Mike McDaniel has not. And

1635
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: four did you even read bart from Poland's email after

1636
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: you made fun of his health?

1637
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 3: That was his email? That was that was it.

1638
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: He just wanted to tell us he was in the hospital.

1639
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: Listening, and he said he was going to be fine.

1640
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 7: So okay, good, that's he did that because.

1641
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 11: He writes in quite a bit, so we might have

1642
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 11: been worried otherwise.

1643
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he was going to be fine.

1644
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 3: You know, pheographic dies, he dies drug. You know, things

1645
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: could turn.

1646
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 7: Take a turn for the worst. You never know.

1647
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 4: I mean, life's for me, guys.

1648
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: You gotta hope he pulls through.

1649
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 7: Bar calling when you're able to please.

1650
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: Jaitar rights in What's up Everybody? I for sure was

1651
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: a fan saying that the Bills window was closed. Two

1652
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: years later, I'm starting to think the window will never

1653
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: be closed as long as Allen is their quarterback.

1654
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 3: That's probably true.

1655
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: I for sure think that this game won't be the

1656
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: same as Week five game. I hope that this can

1657
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 2: be the game where it may goes for three hundred

1658
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: plus yards and three plus touchdowns in a shootout with

1659
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 2: Josh Allen Patriots thirty four Bills thirty.

1660
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 4: I don't I could.

1661
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to be thirty four to nothing.

1662
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Speaker 6: Do you remember the last time there were two, you know,

1663
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 6: elite quarterbacks in the same division kind of going back

1664
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 6: and forth. I mean, there's probably an obvious one that's

1665
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 6: just not popping into my head right now. Two elite

1666
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 6: quarterbacks division, Jim Killy, Dan Marino. They didn't really cross

1667
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 6: over too much, I guess a little bit.

1668
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 4: I mean Kelly Marino was Yeah, but that's a long time.

1669
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, that's a good one.

1670
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,839
Speaker 3: Can you think of any any others though about AFC West?

1671
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you had Rivers there for a while,

1672
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: Stabler and.

1673
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,839
Speaker 7: Now again yeah again, really in the weeds.

1674
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 6: It's kind of interesting how you can't really think of

1675
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 6: one where there was, you know, a division where there

1676
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 6: were two guys that you know are going to kind

1677
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 6: of go back and forth for a while.

1678
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I don't know how elite, but like,

1679
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 4: could you say, like Flacco Roethlisberger.

1680
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Speaker 11: I was going to say that, but then stopped at

1681
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 11: the elite is definitely elite, right, I don't know, that's

1682
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 11: like a running joke on Twitter.

1683
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 4: I think that would qualify for what you're asking. I

1684
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 4: don't know if it certainly doesn't rise to the level

1685
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 4: of Kelly Marino.

1686
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 6: Right, but you know what I'm saying getting out with

1687
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 6: Alan and May though that this could be, you know,

1688
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 6: something really special.

1689
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, you know, you have the chance

1690
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 4: with like Mahomes and Herbert. I don't know what Nix

1691
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 4: is going to be. I don't know if he'll ever.

1692
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 4: I think he's kind of destined to be like a

1693
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 4: good sort of game manager type, but you don't, who knows.

1694
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 4: Maybe he gets better and better. And he's in that

1695
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 4: conversation too. It kind of speaks to you know, the

1696
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 4: biggest problem in the AFC East when Brady was dominating

1697
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 4: it was nobody could figure out quarterback in college, right,

1698
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 4: you know, and they just kept cycling through all these

1699
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 4: different guys. Probably the best quarterback in the division through

1700
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 4: Brady's tenure was Chad Pennington.

1701
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, that's you know, it doesn't that

1702
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 6: seem weird in retrospect, Like I think there's maybe just

1703
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 6: been more high quality quarterbacks coming in the league lately.

1704
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 6: But it just seems crazy to me that that those

1705
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,520
Speaker 6: three teams basically went twenty years without finding.

1706
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 3: We were forcing them into bad decisions. Yeah, Patriots, they

1707
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 3: were under a lot of pression. It's true. Todd's in

1708
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 3: North Carolina, check right, you don't like that.

1709
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: I don't care there for you.

1710
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 4: You don't care for it. It's been a little cranky.

1711
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 8: I spent it.

1712
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 3: What's up to Todd?

1713
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 8: So I sent in a little quiz because we were

1714
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 8: on the break weekend here and I thought would be

1715
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 8: nice to play a game. So if Fred didn't like it,

1716
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 8: so I'm going to try to make something a little

1717
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 8: bit simpler. Which of the current teams that were would

1718
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 8: be in the playoffs that it was this time? You

1719
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 8: think that Drake May and our offensive coach mister McDaniels

1720
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 8: would help the most. I was. I was thinking Tampa

1721
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 8: or the Eagles, but then I settled on the Texas

1722
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 8: because I think if you give the Texans an offense,

1723
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 8: they might be unstoppable. So I just want to hear

1724
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 8: your assets.

1725
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

1726
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,799
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.

1727
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 4: That Why does it have to be like? As is

1728
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 4: often the case, I don't always understand the instructions. So

1729
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels would be the coordinator for one of the other.

1730
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: Playoff teams and Drake May would be the quarterback. Oh

1731
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 2: so you insert those two, which playoff team would they

1732
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: help the most?

1733
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 4: So the playoff I in Indianapolis?

1734
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 11: Yeah right, Yeah, they don't have a quarterback, ye Philip

1735
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 11: twenty four years old and he's a granddad.

1736
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: I don't and there's still a playoff.

1737
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 4: I'm not close. I'm not close. Well, I'm not trying to, like,

1738
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 4: you know, I lost a little weight, okay, so I'm

1739
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 4: not looking down my notes. But I don't know if

1740
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 4: you guys saw anything about Philip Rivers. You know, you

1741
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 4: guys see any of these pitchers.

1742
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: No, little Dowey, really really.

1743
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 4: Little dowe you know, so not only forty four five years.

1744
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 10: Kids though like he might.

1745
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 8: So.

1746
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the team that doesn't have a quarterback.

1747
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,520
Speaker 4: The other teams have a good, you know, good quarterback's.

1748
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the most of.

1749
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 4: The playoff teams have good quarterbacks. I mean I don't

1750
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 4: know how good, but most of them.

1751
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 10: Well to the point of the call.

1752
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 11: It would get them over the needle them, it would

1753
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 11: get them over the hump the most. Whereas, like, I

1754
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 11: don't know, the Texans, you might need more, Like the

1755
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 11: Colts were really good and then they lost their quarterback.

1756
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the Olds have a really good offense.

1757
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 4: When Daniel Jones was healthy, they had a really good offense.

1758
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 4: I think May is a lot better than Daniel Jones,

1759
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 4: so maybe they would have a great offense Denver. I

1760
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 4: think bow Knicks has been fine. He's winning games, but

1761
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 4: I think May is a lot better than bow Knicks.

1762
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 4: I think he would win a lot of games.

1763
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: Francisco's in North Carolina have Francisco?

1764
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 12: Hey, what's going on?

1765
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen?

1766
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 12: They So I got to start off with so a

1767
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 12: while back when I got that, well, I ain't got

1768
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 12: to receive the T shirt yet, So first wondering do

1769
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 12: I need to send another email in.

1770
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 3: With my Yeah, I don't know, Matt, Matt, what's the

1771
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 3: deal I've got.

1772
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 9: I've been setting them out all in piles. I'm just

1773
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 9: waiting for the pile to get big enough to send out.

1774
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 11: I'll just send out your shirt now for socause is

1775
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 11: a special one, Okay, yeah?

1776
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1777
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 7: And then uh so I'm gonna follow up with so

1778
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 7: you know, I'm.

1779
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 12: Not watching all twenty two or anything, but I was

1780
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 12: wondering if is are are we given like opportunities? Like

1781
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 12: I understand that you know, we might not have enough opportunities.

1782
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 14: But like another a couple of weeks back, we threw

1783
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 14: like a quick little.

1784
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 12: Plate Kyle Williams, I turned into like like seventeen yards

1785
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 12: or whatever. So I was wondering if we have we

1786
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 12: done any more, like how often are we doing it

1787
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 12: to where we're giving him the ball in space? And

1788
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 12: then my prediction for this week is I don't know

1789
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 12: how bold I would say it is, but I think

1790
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 12: this is going to be the game where everyone's like,

1791
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 12: this is Greg May's NDP game, like someone like College

1792
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 12: were like, that's the high of the moment.

1793
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 8: I think this is where we're going to solidfy you

1794
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 8: that was That's.

1795
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 12: Where he like, that's where Drake May became Drake May.

1796
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 13: All right, thank you guys.

1797
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Francisco.

1798
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 4: I think Kyle Williams is the fifth receiver, so he's

1799
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 4: going to get periodic opportunities when someone gets banged up.

1800
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 4: I think in the Giants game, there was a player

1801
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 4: or two early in the game where Booty looked like

1802
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 4: he could limped to the sideline. I think Kyle Williams

1803
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 4: got a couple more reps. Fortunately for Kyle Williams, one

1804
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 4: of those happened to be a deep ball that he

1805
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 4: was on the field instead of boot and made he

1806
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 4: made a play. But I don't I wouldn't expect Kyle

1807
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 4: Williams to be a big part of the offense at

1808
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 4: this stage, you know, going forward, unless there's injuries in

1809
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 4: front of him, would you, guys, you know, disagree with that.

1810
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 11: I just think there's already so many guys ahead of

1811
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 11: him that Drake just has great chemistry with. And that's

1812
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 11: even beyond the receivers, that's even the tight ends, and

1813
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 11: that's even Remandre like throwing the ball too.

1814
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 10: So I kind of feel the same way as you.

1815
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think they like what they they

1816
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 4: have in Booty. Is there more explosiveness or Kyle Williams

1817
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 4: over Booty? Probably, but Booty is a far better player

1818
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 4: right now by a lot.

1819
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 11: It has to be there too, Like Kyle Williams, like

1820
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 11: he's making strides for sure. But I think Fred always

1821
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 11: harped on this, like it's it's not looking right in

1822
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 11: a lot of these games with either.

1823
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 10: Definitely, definitely, but there's still a long way to go.

1824
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think they're moving him around a

1825
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 2: little bit more away. You know, the short passes just

1826
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: didn't look good. He just didn't have a knack for it.

1827
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's getting better. Travis and West

1828
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: Virginia says the call you took from Naton, Connecticut just

1829
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 2: before the break was the most interesting call he's ever had.

1830
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: Travis likes, I do like that though.

1831
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta have that, you gotta have likeateur.

1832
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, the agitators.

1833
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 2: We're talking about the division rivalry quarterback thing and Bruno says,

1834
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,879
Speaker 2: we could have had Roger Stafford, but the Lions decided

1835
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: to be a joke.

1836
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 4: Yeah that you know, Rogers Stafford.

1837
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And Barton Poland says, if I die, it's

1838
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 2: on you.

1839
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: Fred.

1840
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 11: It's so much funnier because when we did guess that listener,

1841
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 11: bart is the one that was pictured with Fred, and

1842
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 11: Fred still didn't make can't say he was correctly.

1843
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 20: And now.

1844
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: If you want to hear something funny about how making

1845
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: fun of death and grieving, there's uh this podcast that

1846
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: was with Jason Bateman and uh, who's the guy with

1847
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: the deep Will Arnett and there's a third guy and

1848
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 2: they had Conan O'Brien as a guest and they're talking

1849
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 2: about when his father died and the texts that went

1850
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 2: back and forth and Conan blame Conan blamed it on

1851
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: Jason Bateman. He said, you know he killed my father.

1852
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: And then like two weeks later his mother died and

1853
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: and uh somebody so will Arnette texted Conan O'Brien and said,

1854
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: do you know where Jason Bateman was last night? And

1855
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: and so and then it went on like this, and

1856
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 2: and then uh somebody else texted Conan O'Brien said, Jason

1857
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: wants your sister's uh pad dress, and and like this

1858
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 2: is like a guy who just lost his mother father.

1859
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 2: Codin's like, this is how I grieve, though I love this.

1860
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: This was okay the Boston guy.

1861
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I saw that making the rounds one on Twitter.

1862
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 4: I didn't like see all the details. I'm glad you

1863
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 4: had all the pieces because you know me, I see it.

1864
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 4: I'm not going to click on it. You draw a

1865
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 4: conclusion without getting the facts, and I and you know what,

1866
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 4: I drew a very accurate conclusion. You just gave me

1867
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 4: the facts and that's pretty much exactly how I figured

1868
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 4: it must have gone something like that.

1869
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, let's see Tyler in New Jersey rites

1870
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: in love the show Love Catch twenty two. I completely

1871
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: agree with Evan on how annoying the fans have been

1872
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: this year, especially our very own Patriots fans. If I

1873
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: hear anything about Denver in the altitude again, my head

1874
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 2: might burst. There shouldn't be any team we're afraid of,

1875
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: and if we lose altitude or home field advantage, are

1876
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: bs excuses. There's no team in the AFC that should

1877
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,799
Speaker 2: beat us besides maybe the Bills. That's it. And finally,

1878
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: to all the fans crying about the deadline, if you

1879
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: want to see a first hand example, go look at

1880
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: the Colts, who gave us to first for an overrated

1881
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: corner and are now going to miss the playoffs. Thank

1882
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 2: god our team was firm on principle and stuck with it.

1883
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,520
Speaker 2: Have a nice day.

1884
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 4: Not sure I understand the email, but I would say

1885
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 4: the first thing, you have the opposite view of the

1886
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 4: Patriots fans based on what Evan's talking about. It's the

1887
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 4: obnoxiousness of the fans, not people worried about playing in Denver.

1888
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 4: So you have the wrong view of the fans, So

1889
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 4: you're really not agreeing with Evan. The second part is

1890
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 4: would it make you feel better if Drake may broke

1891
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 4: his leg on Sunday because you didn't make any big

1892
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 4: moves and forfeit any draft picks in at the trade deadline.

1893
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 3: Would it make me feel any better?

1894
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, No, it wouldn't make me feel any better either,

1895
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 4: Like somehow like it's not it's okay that they didn't

1896
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 4: make any moves of the deadline because Daniel Jones broke

1897
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 4: his leg and then tore his achilles and the cold

1898
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 4: season is falling apart, But they shouldn't. That shows you

1899
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 4: that they shouldn't have made any moves to try to

1900
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 4: better their team. Yeah, like that's a very flawed logic.

1901
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:11,480
Speaker 4: They fell apart because of the quarter The quarterback basically

1902
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 4: suffered a catastrophic injury and their season is probably over

1903
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 4: because of it. Not because they made a move to

1904
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 4: get Sauce Gardner at the deadline. They needed that they

1905
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 4: needed just to bolster their secondary. But he was a Jet,

1906
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 4: so he sucks. I just went to lead between the

1907
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 4: lines of Patriots fans.

1908
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 10: Sometimes there's a slippery slope.

1909
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 4: Not, well, why not tell me tell me the part

1910
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 4: of my analysis of that email that you disagree with.

1911
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: You disagree, well, but you're having these arguments like.

1912
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 4: That's your head, that's what he's No, No, no, I'm

1913
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 4: reading what he I'm interpreting what he wrote that's what

1914
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 4: he wrote.

1915
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: You're interpreting it.

1916
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 4: It was a bad move to get I think he

1917
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 4: called him an overrated corner and now look at their

1918
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 4: season as if acquiring the over rated corner is the

1919
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 4: reason why their seasons out of control. Now, the two

1920
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 4: were nothing to do with these I would not feel

1921
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 4: any better if I still had my first round pick.

1922
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 4: If Drake may gets hurt and is out for the year,

1923
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 4: that would not make me feel any better than the

1924
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 4: Colts feel right now.

1925
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: And how does say back to Patriots fans.

1926
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 4: Because he's saying that's the Patriots fans were whining about

1927
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 4: not making a trade at the deadline. Okay, that's that's

1928
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,839
Speaker 4: the premise. That's what he's saying. He's mad at Patriots

1929
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 4: fans because they were probably.

1930
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 11: Not the best comparison to use because one the one,

1931
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 11: they're not correlated. Like, if Daniel Jones doesn't get injured,

1932
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 11: maybe he goes on to make a game saving interception

1933
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 11: in the Super Bowl.

1934
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: Right, you don't know with this, like do what you do?

1935
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 3: I don't you know.

1936
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 4: Maybe the Colts weren't good enough to do what they did.

1937
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 4: That might that may ultimately end up being a bad

1938
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,839
Speaker 4: play by is it ballad?

1939
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 7: Is he still there?

1940
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 4: I don't know who's their gm oh ballad?

1941
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: Ballad?

1942
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 4: Definitely, you know, maybe ultimately that's going to end up

1943
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 4: being a bad move for them. They gave up a

1944
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. They have two first round picks

1945
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 4: for a corner.

1946
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 11: But also, how do you blame them because they're they're

1947
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 11: in a wish now mode? Like those are the moves

1948
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 11: you go out and make when you're in win now mode?

1949
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, uh theo rights. And I was just

1950
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: on a demo call with a sales guy from Utah

1951
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 2: and he randomly muted and turned his camera off and

1952
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 2: came back and said a big time Patriots player had

1953
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: just walked through their cubicles, and everyone went to say, Hi,

1954
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 2: I wonder who it was, Oh, that Utah. It'd be

1955
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: a big time player that's currently on the team because

1956
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 2: they're here in Utah.

1957
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 4: That's what it says.

1958
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 10: Yeah it was last week during the bye week.

1959
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it was last week, but he just said.

1960
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 11: I was just but I don't know if that's the

1961
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 11: guy that would be shutting down an office.

1962
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: Who would go back to Utah from the.

1963
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 10: PENGA is the only one I can think of off

1964
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 10: the top of my head.

1965
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:56,879
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe a kids.

1966
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 2: Like a big time.

1967
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 4: Ry like yeah no, but that's why Alex is in

1968
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 4: depth knowledge of the entire roster.

1969
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: He's from Utah.

1970
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 7: Why don't you purify yourself in the waters.

1971
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: So Lake Minnetonka emailer, please call your sales guy in

1972
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 2: Utah and ask him who was the player so we

1973
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 2: can solve this mystery. Uh Low and Philly, I just

1974
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,919
Speaker 2: want to comment on Evans classic Northeastern take on Michigan

1975
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: being landlocked. I completely agree with the sentiment that the

1976
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,839
Speaker 2: seafood is not as good there. I'm not from Michigan,

1977
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: but I think there is some misunderstandings about the Great Lakes.

1978
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: I'll put things in numbers because that's all he understand. Sorry,

1979
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: PFF can't verify. Michigan is literally a peninsula with over

1980
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: two times the coastline that Massachusetts has. There are famously

1981
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 2: dunes going down to the beaches that are four hundred

1982
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 2: and fifty feet high. On the west coast, Lake Michigan

1983
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: is over thirty seven times the size of Cape Cod Bay.

1984
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 2: On the east coast, Lake Huron is over thirty eight

1985
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: times the size of Cape Cod Bay. Both Lakes are

1986
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 2: three times the size of Massachusetts. I know, but it's

1987
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: not salt water. What right. I don't know if the

1988
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 2: definition of being landlocked, like you said, does it have

1989
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: to be salt water.

1990
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 4: Because I asked that question.

1991
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, because certainly there's a lot of water around Michigan.

1992
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said lakes.

1993
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 4: I said to the Great Lakes counts as making you

1994
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 4: land laugh. That was my fault.

1995
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 11: Our Michigan listeners go so hard for Michigan. Oh yeah,

1996
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 11: they really like remember this, this debate back fall, And

1997
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 11: I think Michigan's a beautiful place.

1998
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 10: It's great, but it's just like.

1999
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 11: The problem where I get tripped up is when they

2000
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,959
Speaker 11: always bring up like, oh, well, we have the seafood,

2001
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 11: we have these beaches, and it's like it's a totally

2002
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 11: different thing. Lake life and ocean life is just it's

2003
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 11: night and day from each other, and there's overlap, but

2004
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 11: there's a lot that's not over.

2005
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 4: Would you consider it a landlocked state? That was the

2006
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 4: only Like, I'm not arguing about the quality of seaf.

2007
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 10: I think it's one I would think of off the

2008
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 10: top of my head.

2009
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: When it comes to states, some of the plain states, and.

2010
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,799
Speaker 4: That was the only question, and that was my fault

2011
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 4: that that came back because I asked you that. I remember,

2012
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 4: I go, do we consider the Great Lakes making Michigan

2013
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 4: not landlocked? And Evan jumped on my throat. Doesn't.

2014
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 9: I don't think that is entirely surrounded by land, having

2015
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 9: no direct access to an ocean or open sea, meaning

2016
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 9: it must pass through neighboring territories to reach global waters global.

2017
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 4: Water, So it would be considered can you get through

2018
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 4: the can you make your way through the Great Lakes

2019
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 4: to the ocean?

2020
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Well, probably there's the thing up top the rivers.

2021
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 3: What's that thing that goes to the ocean up top?

2022
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: If you get what it's called?

2023
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 7: So little have you meddled there?

2024
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 2: Hi?

2025
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 7: Ready, I'm back you miss me? No, uh, not as

2026
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 7: busy today, not as crazy, but.

2027
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 6: Only got one uh one scrumming Robert Splaine saying, it

2028
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 6: still feels like the defense has a lot more to

2029
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 6: give and you know, preaching that energy, still trying to

2030
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 6: you know, get better and all that. But a lot

2031
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 6: of respect for James Cook all eleven at the point

2032
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 6: of attack, and you know, just a lot of Josh Allen,

2033
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 6: He's the MVP. I feel like that might have been

2034
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 6: a refrain. You heard a lot from maybe the coaching

2035
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 6: staff this week, building up like this is the MVP,

2036
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 6: this is the MVV. You know, maybe both to like

2037
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 6: kind of force the guys that they want to play

2038
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 6: for their guy who might be the MVP.

2039
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 7: But you can tell everybody, of course, has a lot

2040
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 7: of respect for Josh Allen. So was a quick one.

2041
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't evan not nothing to report on there.

2042
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 6: He was kind of hanging out and he doesn't really.

2043
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 2: Could be my theory that m VP is the person

2044
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 2: with the least talent around him.

2045
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 6: So yeah, but I also think till fred is there

2046
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 6: like a certain point though, where like a guy just

2047
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 6: played so well that you know what I mean? Like

2048
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 6: that that's the only place where I get a little

2049
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 6: bit grey, Like I generally agree like MVP should be

2050
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 6: the guy who raised his team up, didn't have the

2051
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 6: most talent, But is there an exception for a guy

2052
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 6: who just played out of his mind?

2053
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 7: Like did Britty win MVP in two thousand and seven?

2054
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2055
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, so like that one, right, Like he had Randy

2056
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 6: Moss right, you know, so, but he broke the touchdown record.

2057
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 4: In the argument for Lamar Jackson last year. Yeah, he

2058
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 4: just played that much better than everybody else. But Josh

2059
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 4: Allen got it because they deemed him done. That's generally

2060
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 4: which way I leaned by with less.

2061
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 6: I also think that there's something super special about a

2062
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 6: season that a guy has that like offensive Player of

2063
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 6: the Year doesn't quite cut.

2064
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 3: So was it as crazy in there today as it

2065
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 3: was yesterday? No, it was. It's all because of the

2066
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 3: Chick fil A.

2067
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 2: Isn't there yesterday and.

2068
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 3: They didn't today.

2069
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 2: So these guys that have one square meal a day

2070
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 2: a week, which is here, didn't show up.

2071
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 7: There's your here's your hunk of a chicken for the week.

2072
01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2073
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 7: No, maybe it is the meal, but not not a

2074
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 7: lot of it was.

2075
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 10: They must have gotten cleaned out.

2076
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 7: I was like getting kicked out of interviews and everything.

2077
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 6: There were so many people there was just you couldn't

2078
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 6: even I couldn't even do anything.

2079
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was, uh, he was kind of just hanging

2080
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 7: talking with his guys, talking with his guys.

2081
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 3: Who were his guys, know.

2082
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 17: The the tailors, the Brian Hines of the world, the Sophies,

2083
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 17: you know, they were having a lot of think he

2084
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 17: was tram He's like, you know, my boss friend's really

2085
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 17: getting into it about analytics.

2086
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 7: You guys wouldn't like this guy, you know, things of

2087
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 7: that nature. Perhaps, I don't know.

2088
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm happy to wear that badge. Okay, So anything else, No,

2089
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 2: that's it.

2090
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 7: That's it.

2091
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 3: Still upbeat.

2092
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 7: So yeah, there was still.

2093
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 6: Good energy, just not a lot of you know, media

2094
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 6: members and you know, just not a lot of scrums

2095
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 6: right off the bat. Like we got in there and

2096
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 6: was waiting for digs yesterday and then it was just

2097
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 6: like scrump, scrump, scrum.

2098
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 7: But not today. Today's a little bit low key. It

2099
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 7: kind of goes down each day and tomorrow Beat.

2100
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 2: The PR staff needs to spread out their food so

2101
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: that they can you know, uh not always have Chick

2102
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 2: fil A on Wednesday, right, you know, throw a curveball

2103
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 2: and have it a Friday.

2104
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 7: One week, we'll do it on Friday.

2105
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 4: Be fun.

2106
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 6: And that's like another recurring thing in the locker room

2107
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 6: on Fridays is like, you know, it's really quiet usually

2108
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 6: in there. There's not like the Dan Roaches of the

2109
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 6: world who kind of lead the charge and you know,

2110
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 6: get interviews.

2111
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 7: They're not there. And Drake always walks in and she's like,

2112
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 7: what are you all doing here, go home. It's Friday.

2113
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 6: You know, yells at the media, and you know, it's

2114
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 6: kind become a little bit of a bit that we

2115
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 6: do with Drake.

2116
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 7: But I but I enjoy it. But maybe some food

2117
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 7: would get more people down there.

2118
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 2: I like it.

2119
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 3: Chris and Virginia. One more email before we get into picks.

2120
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 3: Chris is keeping receipts.

2121
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 2: Earlier in the season, Evan was critical of the Commanders

2122
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: going so deep in the playoffs last season because it

2123
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 2: hurt their draft pick options. Does he still think it

2124
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: was a bad thing, and does that mean he thinks

2125
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 2: we shouldn't go deep this season? And if Christian in

2126
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: La is listening, does he still think that the current

2127
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 2: team is a paper tiger. The claim was made on

2128
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 2: your October nineteenth episode, where he said, we're going to

2129
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 2: turn out to be paper tigers this year, but they

2130
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 2: will likely kind of run up against a really good

2131
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: and losing the playoffs and being not a good great

2132
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 2: position to get a good draft pick.

2133
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 7: I don't know.

2134
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 4: I just after also said they were going to win

2135
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 4: ten in a row. You made fun of me for

2136
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 4: because I think I said I don't know about that. Yeah,

2137
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 4: a little early on that but I don't know.

2138
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 6: After about fourteen or fifteen in the draft, I just

2139
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 6: I don't really care. I mean, if you're in the

2140
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 6: running for a top ten pick, you want every ounce of.

2141
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 7: Draft capital that you can get.

2142
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 6: But at a certain point you just have to realize

2143
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 6: we're going to be picking in the second half of

2144
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 6: the first round and every other round after that, and

2145
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 6: we need to hit on our picks. There are good

2146
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 6: players that still go at those points.

2147
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, it's that time of the week. So

2148
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:48,919
Speaker 2: fall you kind of intimated that I didn't have a good.

2149
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 4: Week, No you did not. I won the week at

2150
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 4: eight and six, so no one really had a good week.

2151
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 4: Mike and Alex were seven and seven, Fred and Evan

2152
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 4: were five and nine with the spread. Paul again was

2153
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 4: eight and six, Mike and Alex seven and seven, and

2154
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 4: Evan and Fred the same again, only this time at

2155
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 4: six and eight. So it's a tough week all around

2156
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 4: and six it's not generally a winner for the week,

2157
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 4: although someone had to be the winner.

2158
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a time of year, this time

2159
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 2: of your biases start to come into.

2160
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 4: It, you know, right, Yeah, So the season standings, Alex

2161
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 4: maintains her lead. Actually, no, she takes the lead because

2162
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 4: she was. She was two games better one thirty seven

2163
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 4: seventy and one. Fred won thirty six seventy one and one,

2164
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 4: Mike won thirty seventy seven and one, Paul won twenty

2165
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 4: nine seventy eight and one, and Evan won twenty two

2166
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 4: eighty five and one. So with the spread, well, here

2167
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 4: we go.

2168
01:35:58,600 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 3: Here on footsteps.

2169
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 4: Fred one twelve ninety four and two, Paul one O

2170
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 4: six one hundred and two was once a twenty game lead,

2171
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 4: is down to six with four to go. Let's see

2172
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 4: Evan one O one one oh five and two, Alex

2173
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 4: one hundred, one oh six and two, and Mike, good

2174
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 4: job by you this week seven seven. That's a five

2175
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 4: hundred eighty seven one nineteen.

2176
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 7: Not losing money, not losing money, I'm making it all right.

2177
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 2: Sounds good, Okay, So let's get into slate, full slate,

2178
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: full slate by So we gotta hurry tonight on Prime.

2179
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 2: It's Atlanta at four to nine at Tampa Bay seven

2180
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 2: and six. Tampa coming off a terrible loss at home

2181
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 2: to this Mike Evans coming back Bucks by four and a.

2182
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 7: Half, four and a half. This is one of those.

2183
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2184
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 7: I don't even know if I'll turn this one on tonight.

2185
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 6: But I'll take Tampa and then I'll take the points

2186
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:54,919
Speaker 6: for Atlanta.

2187
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 7: I think it'll be close division game Thursday night.

2188
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 10: I'm going to take the Bucks both ways.

2189
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 4: So I'm going to take the Bucks both ways too.

2190
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 4: Mike has very sound reasoning. The Thursday night home division

2191
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 4: game thing. You know, they tend to be closer. Tampa

2192
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 4: coming off a lost to New Orleans. I think they

2193
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 4: blowed George.

2194
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go with Tampa Bay as well

2195
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 2: both ways. All right, Now we move to Sunday, Sunday

2196
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 2: at one on Fox. Oh and by the I don't

2197
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 2: know if I can announce that everyone Sunday at one

2198
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 2: on Fox. I think you can again. The Jets thing, Yeah.

2199
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 4: The Jets game was going to stay at one o'clock. Yeah,

2200
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 4: but it moves to Fox.

2201
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was.

2202
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 4: It was why I said I think you can now

2203
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:42,839
Speaker 4: because I got that email.

2204
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Sunday at one on Fox Cleveland, three and ten at

2205
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Chicago nine and four.

2206
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 4: Uh, Chicago by seven and a half. It's a big

2207
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 4: game for the Bears. This is a big game for

2208
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 4: the Bears. Big bounce back to the Bears. Got to

2209
01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:59,799
Speaker 4: have this one to Chicago.

2210
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm gonna take Chicago

2211
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 6: to win, but I'm.

2212
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 7: Gonna take Cleveland in a close one for the points.

2213
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 10: Please spread one more time.

2214
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, seven and a half.

2215
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 10: I'll do the same thing as Mike.

2216
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 4: So I am going to look to my left at

2217
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 4: Fred Kersh and I'm going to put my belief in

2218
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 4: what he told me last week that Chicago is legit

2219
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 4: and is worthy of the status that they're getting. And

2220
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 4: I'm going to say Chicago bounces back and blows doors

2221
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 4: off a bad team.

2222
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I am. I think Chicago's gonna win, but I

2223
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 2: think that they're not going to cover.

2224
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 3: So but it's not a lock.

2225
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 4: That would be just poor to me.

2226
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 2: Sunday at one on CBS, it's Baltimore at six and

2227
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 2: seven at Cincinnati at four to nine.

2228
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 4: Baltimore by two and a half.

2229
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 6: Mm Mmmm, curious how what we see out of Joe

2230
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 6: Burrow bouncing back after offend of that game. I'm going

2231
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 6: to go with Cinci in this one.

2232
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: We go with Cinci and the upset, So believe it

2233
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 2: or not, there is a path for Cincinnati to me, playoffs.

2234
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 10: I'm gonna take the Bengals as well.

2235
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do not like what I'm seeing in Baltimore.

2236
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 4: Doesn't look like there's a lot of effort there.

2237
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 2: I will take it. Stuff last week, No, but you

2238
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 2: told me about it. You keep me up to date

2239
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 2: on So as a Patriots fan with Bengal with the

2240
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 2: Ravens coming up next week, do we want them to

2241
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:29,759
Speaker 2: win this week or lose?

2242
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say lose.

2243
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 4: I would say lose.

2244
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, just keep them in that they if.

2245
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 11: They lose again, they could implode, especially with the Reddit.

2246
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 18: You know.

2247
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 4: So I didn't think of it right.

2248
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 11: Someone cheated on their girlfriend and the girlfriend went on

2249
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 11: Reddit and aired out how the team doesn't like Harbass.

2250
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 10: She's overheard a bunch of conversations about it.

2251
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 11: There's a lot of other stuff too, but it's not

2252
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 11: relevant to the game.

2253
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 4: The whole officiating thing and how like there's like some

2254
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 4: really fishy stuff. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't bet on this.

2255
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 4: I would think that Baltimore was gonna win this game

2256
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 4: because the league needs it. Yeah, your flex a game

2257
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 4: and then they go six and eight. That's a really

2258
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 4: bad Oh. NFL needs NFL needs the Ravens to be

2259
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 4: at least still in it.

2260
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:22,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Cincinnati, even though I hate the Bengals.

2261
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 2: Sunday at one at Fox three and ten, Cardinals at

2262
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 2: the eight and five Texans.

2263
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 4: Houston by nine and a half.

2264
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 13: Oh wow.

2265
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 3: The last time Houston's been favored by that much and anything?

2266
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot probably two years ago.

2267
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 6: They I'll take Houston. I'll take the points though, for

2268
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 6: Aris nine and a half.

2269
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 4: You said nine and a half.

2270
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll take Arizona's points though, I'm gonna do the

2271
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 7: same thing.

2272
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. I watched a lot of Arizona and they are

2273
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 4: just not good. I'm gonna take Houston both ways. I

2274
01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 4: think they're gonna have a hard time moving the ball

2275
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 4: again that defense. I'll take Houston.

2276
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 3: I will take Houston, but I'll take the points.

2277
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 2: Why not. Sunday at one CBS, it's the Jets three

2278
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,679
Speaker 2: and ten at Jaguars nine and four.

2279
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 4: Jags by thirteen and a half.

2280
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 7: Goodness gracious, that's like Brady Cook could be playing for

2281
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 7: the uh oh boy.

2282
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 2: Yet.

2283
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm definitely taking Jacksonville on this one. And shoot,

2284
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 6: shoot that's my doo drake things.

2285
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 2: Shoot shoot the in front of it.

2286
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 7: Oh shoot, I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the points. Thirteen

2287
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 7: and a half.

2288
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 2: Go Jacks, Jacks, Jags.

2289
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna lay the points too because of the

2290
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 4: quarterback situation. If Taylor or Fields were playing, I'd probably

2291
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 4: take take that huge number. But Brady Cook, Yeah, it's

2292
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 4: a big spread.

2293
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: But thirteen and a half, he said, But Jacksonville may

2294
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:49,520
Speaker 2: only need fourteen.

2295
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 3: Points, yeah to beat the spread. That's it.

2296
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take Jacksonville both ways, you.

2297
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 4: Know, and not not necessarily a big deal. Last week,

2298
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 4: but Miami came out seven, fourteen to twenty one, first

2299
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 4: three drive touchdowns, so it's not like the defense has

2300
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 4: played that much better than the offense.

2301
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 7: They don't even care.

2302
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 3: They've given up.

2303
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 2: As Fireman ed left the building, Probably he's back out.

2304
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 4: He quits every two years, doesn't he.

2305
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2306
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: Sunday at one on CBS, the Chargers are nine and

2307
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,799
Speaker 2: four and they played spirited last week. They're in Kansas

2308
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 2: City six and.

2309
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 4: Seven, Kansas City by five and a half.

2310
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 6: I will take Kansas City to win home, but I

2311
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 6: think Justin Herbert is going to make it close.

2312
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 2: So question now the Chargers fans up at arms because

2313
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 2: they're nine and four against the six and seven team.

2314
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 4: If there were any probably oh wow.

2315
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 11: They're really upset in San Diego, but la I do

2316
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 11: it all the time.

2317
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 3: Got San Diego people are Yeah, there are some rooting.

2318
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 10: For their team Chargers. Chargers cover.

2319
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 2: Wow, not upset, they cover case.

2320
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 7: She's doing it backwards Chargers.

2321
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Kansas City to win two. But

2322
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 4: there's no way I'm giving five and a half points

2323
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 4: to the Chiefs team right now. So yeah, I'll take

2324
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 4: the points. If there was any sentilance of health for

2325
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 4: the Chargers, I'd be taking the Chargers to just end

2326
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 4: it right now. For Kansas City, they look broken, They

2327
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:21,879
Speaker 4: look like they just played a lot of football.

2328
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Chiefs to win.

2329
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: This game.

2330
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 4: And who are you gonna take to cover in the game?

2331
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 3: Oh? Both both ways? Yeah, both ways.

2332
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 2: Sunday at one on Fox, it's the Commanders at three

2333
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 2: and ten at the Giants at two and eleven.

2334
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 4: This is quite the matchup. Yes, the Giants by two

2335
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 4: and a half.

2336
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Giants at home, but

2337
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 6: I don't feel great about it.

2338
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 7: I'll lay the points.

2339
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm just going.

2340
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Washington. I think they played

2341
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 4: really badly last week, but I think the previous couple

2342
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:08,480
Speaker 4: of weeks with Mariota, they were playing, you know, reasonably competitive.

2343
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 4: I think that they have enough to win this game.

2344
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: Believe it or not. Spirits are pretty upbeat at the

2345
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 2: Giants because of the way they competed against the Patriots.

2346
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 2: They said, you know, we we did okay against you know,

2347
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 2: the medal of the league. So uh, they use that

2348
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 2: momentum to beat the Commanders this week.

2349
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I think they did all but put a stamp

2350
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 4: on it as they mailed it.

2351
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 2: In Sunday at one on Fox, it's the two and

2352
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 2: eleven Raiders at the eight and five Eagles.

2353
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:48,919
Speaker 4: Eagles by eleven and a half. I think Kenny Pickett

2354
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 4: to start for the Raiders.

2355
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 7: Shoot. I mean, I'm gonna say, we are going with that.

2356
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 4: Shoot.

2357
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 7: It's not on purpose, it's not on purpose. I'm going

2358
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 7: to take Bill del Yeah, you know what.

2359
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Philly both ways, Philly, Philly, Philly, Billy.

2360
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:10,679
Speaker 4: Yeah. I can't. I can't take that team for eleven

2361
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 4: and a half. I'll take the points Philly to win,

2362
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 4: but I'll take the points.

2363
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 3: It's a lot. Yeah, I'm gonna take Philly both ways.

2364
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 3: All right. Now, we skip over the Patriots.

2365
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 2: At one o'clock and we moved to four to twenty five,

2366
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 2: No for four oh five game this week all for

2367
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 2: twenty five. Green Bay nine, three and one at Denver,

2368
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:34,879
Speaker 2: of course, eleven and two.

2369
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 4: Green Bay by two and a half and up in

2370
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 4: arms in Denver. I have no idea how Denver about it.

2371
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with green Bay in

2372
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 6: this one. They're kind of wishy washy, but I like

2373
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 6: them against it. You know, a team that they can

2374
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 6: get up for in a game, they can get up for,

2375
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:50,799
Speaker 6: So I'll go Packers.

2376
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,919
Speaker 11: I'm gonna take the Packers too. A lot of it's emotional,

2377
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 11: but yeah that too.

2378
01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with Fred, like the Broncos, like these games

2379
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 4: just always seem to be at home, and I think

2380
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 4: they win them. Like I think that the home team.

2381
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 4: I think they're doing probably the same thing that the

2382
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 4: Patriots are doing right now, playing the disrespect card. Green

2383
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 4: Bay to me is I know everybody just automatically every

2384
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 4: time they win a big game, they're in the Super Bowl,

2385
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 4: I'm not a believer in green Bay. I'm not a

2386
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 4: believer in the quarterback. I'll take Denver.

2387
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 2: Listen, we need Denver to lose, so I'm picking green Bay.

2388
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 2: I got to put that out there. I gotta put

2389
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: it out into the universe, all right, Mars is in

2390
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 2: retrograde and green Bay beats the broncos Us.

2391
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 4: Explaining the comeback that I'm one.

2392
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 3: Sunday for on Fox.

2393
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 2: It's the Lions eight and five at the Rams ten

2394
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 2: and three.

2395
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 4: So this is the spread to me this week. That

2396
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 4: raised my eyebrows the most Rams by six.

2397
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 7: Oh that's a lot of points, I thought.

2398
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, So in that case, I'm going to take the arms,

2399
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,560
Speaker 6: but I'll take the points for the Detroiters.

2400
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 3: You know, do you think it should be closer?

2401
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 4: I would have thought it would have been a little closer. Yeah,

2402
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 4: let's think the way you think.

2403
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:16,480
Speaker 3: How do I think they know something? Yeah?

2404
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 4: It makes me think that it's a red flag spread.

2405
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 4: So with that in mind, I'm going to lay the points.

2406
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 4: I'll take the Rams both ways.

2407
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 3: You're right to do that, Paul Rams both ways.

2408
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 2: Sunday at four twenty five on Fox, the Panthers seven

2409
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 2: and six at the at the one. They have a

2410
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 2: one game winning streak, the same.

2411
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 4: The red hot Saints. Yeah, oh, I think I have

2412
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 4: this backwards. Let me check this. Let's move to another.

2413
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 2: Ye okay, five Indianapolis on CBS eight and five, going

2414
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:56,679
Speaker 2: to Seattle ten and three.

2415
01:47:57,800 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 7: Oh jesus, it.

2416
01:47:58,520 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 3: Is gonna be a big spread.

2417
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 4: Right, yes, Seattle by fourteen?

2418
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 6: Oh man man, Well, poor Indianapolis. It was all going

2419
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 6: so great and it hasn't been so great.

2420
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 7: Since they got sauce. Not that it was related to that,

2421
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 7: but I just have to kind of worked out. I

2422
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 7: will take Seattle and yeah, I'm gonna lay the points,

2423
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 7: lay the points.

2424
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 2: Indyed imagine lating fourteen points?

2425
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 7: I mean, is it gonna be Phil the Wors? Is

2426
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 7: it possible?

2427
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 4: I mean it was. I mean it's absolutely possible. I

2428
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 4: don't think it will be.

2429
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 3: But they're gonna have to make a roster move though

2430
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 3: to get him on the ross.

2431
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 4: Seattle Seattle, h Yeah, I'm gonna take Seattle both ways.

2432
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2433
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 2: I just can't see Indianapolis competing in this game. So

2434
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,919
Speaker 2: Seattle both ways.

2435
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 4: Not exactly an easy venue or defense to oppose if

2436
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 4: you're a forty four year old guy coming up for

2437
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 4: a five year hiatus, right, welcome to like the Do

2438
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 4: you want to go back to the Yeah it's it's

2439
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 4: Carolina by two and a half. I had Newell once

2440
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 4: by two and a half. I thought that looked funny,

2441
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 4: So I want to just make sure that I had it.

2442
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 6: Right on Panthers, Baby, lay the points.

2443
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do it.

2444
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 4: Carolina lost to the Saints the first time they played

2445
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 4: at home, and I gotta think the Panthers are like,

2446
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,839
Speaker 4: we can't overlook them. So I'll take Carolina.

2447
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 3: Boy, Yeah, Carolina wins this game. This is this is

2448
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 3: a lock.

2449
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 4: I think these teams are more similar than your think.

2450
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lock, Carolina, We both stink. Four twenty

2451
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:30,759
Speaker 2: five on Fox Tennessee two and eleven at the forty

2452
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 2: nine Ers nine and four.

2453
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 4: San Francisco by twelve and a half. That's a lot

2454
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,759
Speaker 4: of big spreads, A lot of big spreads.

2455
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thinks tends about a little bit of a sparkle,

2456
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 6: not much.

2457
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the points.

2458
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 4: Me too, Yeah, San Francisco both ways.

2459
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too? All right.

2460
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 2: Sunday Night eight twenty NB Sure The Peacock University Minnesota

2461
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 2: five and eight against Alas six, six and one.

2462
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 22: Do they play any time Broncos ran Yeah, I know

2463
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,759
Speaker 22: Dallas of course in primetime every week.

2464
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dallas by five and a half, tiven.

2465
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 7: And a half. It's a good number.

2466
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 6: I think, Uh, Minnesota showed a little last week. I'm

2467
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 6: gonna take Dallas, though. I'm gonna take Dallas at home

2468
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna.

2469
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 7: Lay the points.

2470
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:21,719
Speaker 10: Cowboys, Cowboys.

2471
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Dallas both ways. To be interested

2472
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 4: to see if JJ McCarthy can put a couple of

2473
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 4: good games together to close out the season and maybe

2474
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 4: eat some of the featers in Minnesota. He played well

2475
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 4: last week.

2476
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

2477
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 4: Let's see if he can do it.

2478
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:39,679
Speaker 3: Minnesota covers, folks. Not a lock, but they cover.

2479
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 4: Not not necessarily willing to say it's a lock YEP.

2480
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 2: Monday Night eight fifteen on ESPN, Miami is six and seven.

2481
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 2: They go to Pittsburgh seven and six, Pittsburgh by three.

2482
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 7: Hmm. I'm gonna go with Yeah, I'm gonna go with

2483
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:58,559
Speaker 7: the upset on this one. I'm gonna go to Miami.

2484
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 6: I know last week I picked you know, I think

2485
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 6: the Jets to beat Miami in the weather. You don't thinking, Oh,

2486
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 6: maybe they'll be cold, but they play well. I'm gonna

2487
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 6: take Miami with the upset.

2488
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:07,799
Speaker 10: I'll take the Steelers.

2489
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one's tough for me. I agree with Fred

2490
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 4: because you just don't know what you're gonna get out

2491
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 4: of both teams. Right, I'm gonna go with Deuce. I'm

2492
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 4: gonna take the upset. Hopefully it won't be too too

2493
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 4: cold for Tua. I know, if he only won one game,

2494
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 4: and that was last week, he generally only beats the

2495
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 4: Jets in Benwell. All right, Okay, yeah, so I'll take Miami.

2496
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 2: Thinking here, My thinking here is that I don't want

2497
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 2: Miami coming in having it mean anything when they play US.

2498
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 2: So I want Miami to lose Pittsburgh wins. There you go,

2499
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 2: all right.

2500
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 4: I think you should be rooting for Pittsburgh as a

2501
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 4: Patriots fan anyway, because I think you'd rather Pittsburgh win

2502
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 4: that division than Baltimore's Cincinnati.

2503
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 3: Okay, another reason, what do you think? Sure, I'll go

2504
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 3: with that.

2505
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 4: I think they're the least talented of those three teams.

2506
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm going for Pittsburgh. All right.

2507
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 2: Now we move back to Sunday at one, and this

2508
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 2: game is on CBS. It's Buffalo nine and four against

2509
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 2: New England eleven and two.

2510
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 4: Buffalo by one and a half as of this morning.

2511
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is right this Semond.

2512
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 3: That's what we're going for.

2513
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 7: We're locking in.

2514
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 3: We're locking in one and a half, one and a.

2515
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 4: Half Buffalo, all right, huge game.

2516
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the Patriots. I just think it comes

2517
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 6: down to the last couple possessions. I guess the question

2518
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 6: I'm wondering, and we do have a few minutes here,

2519
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 6: is would you rather have a lead and let them

2520
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 6: have the last possession trying to score, or would you

2521
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 6: rather be down and have to try to get the

2522
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 6: last score.

2523
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 4: With I would rather be down. I would always rather

2524
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 4: be down have the ball.

2525
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 7: Yeah. Interesting, Well, I think that's what's gonna happen.

2526
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 6: And I got Drake leading the first game winning or

2527
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 6: second second game winning drive of the season and of

2528
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 6: his career, perhaps the fourth quarter, first fourth quarter come

2529
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 6: back of his career. I'm gonna take the Patriots thirty

2530
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 6: five thirty three.

2531
01:52:57,640 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 7: No, it's it's gonna be.

2532
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 6: It's gonna be tough, Fred, It's gonna be especially live

2533
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 6: ups and downs.

2534
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 7: Josh Allen, a.

2535
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 6: Couple of big plays, a lot a heavy size, yeah yeah,

2536
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,640
Speaker 6: but also a lot of like there we go, you know,

2537
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 6: a lot of that. I just I think it's going

2538
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 6: to be one of those roller coaster games back and forth.

2539
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 10: Patriots twenty seven, Bills twenty four.

2540
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was dirty pool right there, Alex. I said

2541
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:23,560
Speaker 4: that score first.

2542
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 10: You did, and I told you I had the same

2543
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 10: one written down.

2544
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 4: Alex and I have the same score. I like the Patriots.

2545
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 4: There's a lot of intangible qualities about this game that

2546
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 4: I think favorite New England. I feel like Buffalo has

2547
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 4: sort of been in desperation mode for a few weeks,

2548
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 4: and I think when you do that, you know, you

2549
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 4: kind of take a little gas out of the tank

2550
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 4: with each one of them because they kind of have

2551
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 4: to win some of these games. I think they're much

2552
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 4: healthier the Patriots. I think they have that win, you know,

2553
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 4: on the road that has really bolstered their confidence. And

2554
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 4: I know it's not silly. We talked about it a

2555
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 4: lot this week, but I think they're going to use it.

2556
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 4: This stupid spread, I think is going to be part

2557
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 4: of their motivation. You know, we're eleven and two, when

2558
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 4: we're underdogs to a team that we already beat on

2559
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 4: the road. You know, where's our respect? And I think

2560
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 4: they're looking at it that way. I don't think it'll

2561
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 4: be a blowout. I think Buffalo's good. Yeah, you know,

2562
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 4: I know the Patriots fans think Buffalo stinks. So I

2563
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,799
Speaker 4: don't want to hear you crowing in the postgame. If

2564
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:26,560
Speaker 4: this game goes the way we say it's going to

2565
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 4: go because you think Buffalo stinks, Mike, you and I

2566
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 4: will be very impressed with this way. Fred's going to

2567
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 4: come in with hats and T shirts right off the

2568
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 4: field when it comes into the postgames, T shirts for

2569
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 4: the whole cast and the other Alex You're welcome to

2570
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 4: join if you want to come down on Shirley Temple's

2571
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 4: all around all right. So Patriots twenty seven, twenty four,

2572
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 4: they wrap up the a FCS for the first time

2573
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:48,919
Speaker 4: since twenty nineteen.

2574
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 7: Wowoh, there we go. Set the stage. It's like Paton

2575
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 7: coming out to get the speech.

2576
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 4: I feel like, right, did I settle you by the

2577
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 4: two positive?

2578
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 3: No?

2579
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 7: No, no, the only way we ever want a football game.

2580
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 2: Listen. I think the six and Oero Rabel coming out

2581
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 2: of the buy means something I think he gets. Like,

2582
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 2: even when Belichick was here, Patriots weren't that always that

2583
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: great coming out of the buy. Sometimes they were a

2584
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 2: little nasty. But I think this team's going to come out.

2585
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 2: I think they know. I don't even think they need

2586
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 2: the motivation of the one and a half. I think

2587
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 2: I think they still believe they have a lot to prove.

2588
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 3: Nothing's been done. They're not satisfied.

2589
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 2: Rabels mentioned it several times that nothing they've done so

2590
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 2: far is enough.

2591
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 3: They want more. So I think they're going to come

2592
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 3: out right out of the gate. Tough game.

2593
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 4: Though.

2594
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 2: I give a lot of respect to Josh Allen. He's

2595
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 2: a great quarterback. Thirty one twenty one Patriots.

2596
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 4: Oh it was a lot closer, a lot closer than

2597
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 4: I thought. I thought for sure it was gonna be

2598
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 4: like thirty eight to three, A lot closer.

2599
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 2: I think Allen is good enough to get twenty one point.

2600
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, he definitely is. It's uh.

2601
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 4: I was waiting for Fred. We didn't come this far

2602
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 4: just to come this far. Yeah, your little well, I'm.

2603
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 7: Glad the weather. I'm glad the weather has has calmed down.

2604
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 7: It's not quite the same. So did you have a

2605
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 7: table pound.

2606
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that, when you have something presented to

2607
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 2: you for the taking.

2608
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 3: Take it.

2609
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, take it. Yeah.

2610
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 3: And we have the AFC East right here for the taking. Yeah.

2611
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 6: I don't want to lament those missed opportunities, but I'm

2612
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 6: interested how the game's gonna declare. You know, is it

2613
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 6: going to be both teams going back and forth right

2614
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 6: out of the gate, or is it feeling out?

2615
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 7: Is a little you know, sloppy.

2616
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 3: This is a game that will not declare itself early.

2617
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, both teams score in the first quarter of this game, Yes,

2618
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 4: I agree.

2619
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think so. I think that's the

2620
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 7: kind of game it's going to be.

2621
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 6: You know that maybe build some lulls, but I think

2622
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 6: early and late there'll be a few scores.

2623
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 2: You know, and there'll be some wacky things in wacky walls.

2624
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 2: Will be on the post game show dissecting certain plays,

2625
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

2626
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, wearing hats, drinking Shirley temples.

2627
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 4: There'll be something completely irrelevant to the game that Fred

2628
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 4: and I will argue over eight minutes.

2629
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 3: He's got his hands, so we're here to entertain. But

2630
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 3: this is this is it, This is what we wanted, folks.

2631
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 1: We're back in it.

2632
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 2: We're back to meaningful games in December.

2633
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 3: Be excited about it.

2634
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 6: Well, I mentioned too, Fred, I don't know if you

2635
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 6: mentioned on the show, but like this game is that

2636
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 6: you can't get tickets, Like this is going to be

2637
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 6: an atmosphere. This is people are well aware of the

2638
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 6: magnitude of this game and the opportunity, and this.

2639
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 3: Is like an apartment in Tuscany.

2640
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 1: They just can't get it.

2641
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 3: There's nothing available.

2642
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 6: See, this is when I'll be jealous walking through the

2643
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 6: parking Well, you know, the only time I'm not jealous

2644
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 6: walking through the parking lot is.

2645
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:44,040
Speaker 7: When I'm like, it's freezing and You're like, I can't.

2646
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:47,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't do its time of year than I am,

2647
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 4: like in the middle of September and I'm playing Scorge.

2648
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no, I couldn't handle it.

2649
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 4: I did.

2650
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 6: I did one of those like electric vests or you know,

2651
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 6: I need like electricity heating me.

2652
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't. Long underwear is the way to go.

2653
01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 7: I love long underwear. As you get older, you gotta

2654
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 7: he got a layer that.

2655
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what long underwear.

2656
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 3: You don't know what long underwear is normals, Like, that's

2657
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 3: long underwear.

2658
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 23: Okay, so like you know, man was short underwhere but

2659
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 23: in the winter sometimes you were long under instead of shorts.

2660
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 11: There long thermal got it but thermals Now I know

2661
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 11: exactly what did you guys?

2662
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 7: When I was in Vermont, I have one of those

2663
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 7: ones that's like a full suit.

2664
01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 6: It's kind of like the old wessel where they button it,

2665
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 6: but it's also got the little flat you know, just

2666
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 6: some business right right right, you know, just got your

2667
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 6: boots on and going on into the woods.

2668
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 2: Was it pink or red?

2669
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 7: It was red?

2670
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2671
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 8: Red?

2672
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 6: There were Steve red Stephen Ridley right, used to you

2673
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 6: put it under your clothes and you're like, you know

2674
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 6: you got those you were onesies.

2675
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 4: Well, isn't that what you're talking about?

2676
01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was underwear he had.

2677
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 4: Outside the stuff that Stephen Ridley used to wear.

2678
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 2: Don't I don't think.

2679
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 4: I don't think it was really meant to be worn

2680
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 4: his clothes.

2681
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know.

2682
01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 4: I think there was kind of undergarments he got.

2683
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 22: Maybe you right, market it be right anyway, big game.

2684
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:08,839
Speaker 22: I'm excited. I know everybody's excited. Don't don't be afraid.

2685
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 22: Don't be afraid.

2686
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 3: This is this is it, This is no Road, No fear,

2687
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 3: The Road to Santa Clara.

2688
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is start.

2689
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 3: Starts starts on Sunday. That's right, all right.

2690
01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 2: Thanks for watching pregame show at and then the postgame show.

2691
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 4: We'll see you that right after.

2692
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 5: Hey, this is Evan. Thanks for tuning into the show.

2693
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 5: If you really want to help us, make sure to

2694
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 5: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get

2695
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 5: your podcasts. Also make sure to fall on the New

2696
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 5: England Patriots YouTube channel see this show and everything else

2697
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:43,879
Speaker 5: we do here at the Patriots.

2698
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 7: Thanks a lot,