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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime m

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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke two coming to you live

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Speaker 1: from l A. We got one of the young ones

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Speaker 1: that's leading this new wave of music, very talented. Another

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Speaker 1: one album just dropped. Welcome to the show. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: They're feeling good to see as well. Appreciate you for

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Speaker 1: having me. So we say when you get introduced now

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Speaker 1: that sometimes they put that Grammy nominated behind that. How

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Speaker 1: does that make you feel some fly? Ship man? It

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Speaker 1: feels good honestly, Like you know, but I can't wait

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Speaker 1: till it's say, Grammy winning. You know, you can't tell

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Speaker 1: your trophy rooms with nominations right, Like I'm grateful for

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Speaker 1: it for sure, but it's time to get that gold trophies. Man,

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Speaker 1: y'all know you're someone who really understands your platform and

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Speaker 1: tell me how beneficial social media is. But you trying

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Speaker 1: to get your messing not only out there in music,

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Speaker 1: but in life and when you're into your goals, ship man,

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Speaker 1: this social media shouldn't changed my life, bro. You know,

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Speaker 1: like it's a motherfucker because like it's like a terrible

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Speaker 1: thing if you let it over consume you, and if

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Speaker 1: you let it take up too much of your time,

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Speaker 1: and especially like humans are like most humans are cheap unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: and we're in this era of just massive group think

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Speaker 1: and humans have always been cheap like throughout history, but

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Speaker 1: now that we have social media, it gets like amplified.

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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So like people who are

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Speaker 1: like free thinkers and are more like open minded to

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Speaker 1: certain ship are outcasted in a way like it's some

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Speaker 1: weird that ship. It's like, you can have an opinion

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Speaker 1: on something right and this is like your opinion, but

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Speaker 1: you'll see But just the average human being, they'll see

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Speaker 1: they'll go on Twitter and see a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: who have an opinion different from there. So they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I must be wrong since everybody else does this way,

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Speaker 1: and they fall into that. So it's a weird thing.

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Speaker 1: But if you just recognize it for what it is

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Speaker 1: and and not think too deep into it, like and

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Speaker 1: utilize that ship, that can change your life in the

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Speaker 1: dopest way. It's like it's like you're breaking the law

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Speaker 1: if you go against the grain these days, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, weird bro, just to be different, Like

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Speaker 1: everybody want to wear this. If I want to wear

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Speaker 1: that as you weird, You're okay, we we gotta we

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Speaker 1: gotta block you. We can't. That's just stupid and it

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Speaker 1: and it my bad in the ruck, and it puts

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Speaker 1: people with influence and everybody motherfucking walking on eggshells now

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Speaker 1: because like they're so afraid of like cancel culture. And

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Speaker 1: I think as a creative that's like one of the

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Speaker 1: worst things you can do is just not speak your

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Speaker 1: mind freely because you're afraid of how it might affect

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Speaker 1: your relationships. It might burn bridges or even worse, you know,

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Speaker 1: your pockets and and things of that nature. So it

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Speaker 1: got anybody in creatives and anybody went somewhat influenced just

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Speaker 1: trying to be politically correct all the time. Like that

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Speaker 1: ship is like the worst ship for real. Just dropped

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Speaker 1: your second studio album. Congratulations, your Bird's eye View. What

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Speaker 1: do you want people to take away from this latest

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Speaker 1: project to yours? This is growth of a lot of

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Speaker 1: growth on this album from the first though. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate NA, thank you so much. Real it means

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Speaker 1: the world to me. Man I put a lot of like,

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Speaker 1: I put a lot of myself into this album a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. That's why it was like two years

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Speaker 1: and some change in between them. You know the concept,

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Speaker 1: it's a multiperspective album. I'm speaking on things that I've seen,

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Speaker 1: things that I've gone through, things that I've witnessed, things

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Speaker 1: I've seen others going through, and I'm bringing you inside

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Speaker 1: this world, you know, from a bird's eye view, and

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Speaker 1: paying this picture from a bird's eye view, and then

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Speaker 1: you know the d double meaning behind it is just

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Speaker 1: to see things from out side yourself, see things from

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Speaker 1: broader a water lens, because like it's like human beings,

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Speaker 1: we tend to think like the whole world revolves around us,

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Speaker 1: you know, myself included sometimes and sometimes we gotta just

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Speaker 1: take a step back to see things from somebody else's

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Speaker 1: perspective or just from outside of ourselves. You know, talk

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Speaker 1: about your upbringing born in North Carolina, but you moved

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Speaker 1: to Maryland. What was life like and win Win music

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Speaker 1: coming part of your life. It's dope because like down

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Speaker 1: because it's you know, below the Mason Dixon line, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's really like East Coast more up north versus

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Speaker 1: like a North Carolina South Carolina. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: what kind of makes like my perspective unique in a

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Speaker 1: way because I still got that like Southern drawl, like

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Speaker 1: that young Southern nigga energy. And then like in Maryland,

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Speaker 1: like d n V, we like we tend to think

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Speaker 1: like we like the coolest ningers on earth. Like if

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Speaker 1: you know DNV, like they are, don't like you can't

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Speaker 1: lame because like like that you're gonna get like cut up.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like we're gonna go on you.

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Speaker 1: And so um Obama, you know that's like yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: a batman or whatever, and so um. I think the

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Speaker 1: like the fashion culture, the quote unquote like this cool

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Speaker 1: nigger culture, um, and just being yourself really comes from Maryland.

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Speaker 1: But still like me visiting you know, the Carolina's over

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Speaker 1: the summers gave me like that real Southern drawl and

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Speaker 1: bringing those two worlds together, I think musically and just

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Speaker 1: perspective life wise, just gives me like just a multiple

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Speaker 1: way looking at things, if that makes sense. If a

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Speaker 1: teen years old, you decided to give give your rap

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Speaker 1: carel try. But it was just a hobby at first.

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Speaker 1: What made you fall in love with to the point

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Speaker 1: where that was there, that's all he was gonna do.

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Speaker 1: So I've been rapping since I was like a young,

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Speaker 1: like super young nigga, and I would always just freestyle

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Speaker 1: for niggas, like it'll be somebody in my neighborhood, you know,

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Speaker 1: saying get a little bit of money whatever, like like yo,

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Speaker 1: him every day, and that ship used to add up

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Speaker 1: for realm And I always just used to just freestyle

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Speaker 1: and rap. But I dropped my first mixtape when I

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Speaker 1: was fifteen years old, and my two loves basketball and wrapped.

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Speaker 1: It's like every other young navy in the world, right,

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Speaker 1: no different. I noticed I was a lot more just

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Speaker 1: naturally gifted at making music and wrapping that I was

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Speaker 1: at hooping, Like hoops, I was like subpar at best,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was good enough to make the basketball

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Speaker 1: team good enough to um score a couple of points

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Speaker 1: here and there for the basketball team. But it wasn't

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Speaker 1: nothing special. You know, we come a dome ya, real

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Speaker 1: life hooper is in a real way at the highest level,

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Speaker 1: and so um that within itself. When I dropped, when

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is what I want to

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Speaker 1: kid I had I used to want to do both.

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Speaker 1: I used to want to, you know, drop thirty points

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Speaker 1: a game and the NBA. I used to like imagine

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Speaker 1: like my own stats as a kid, and I was

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Speaker 1: I felt like that was just my calling. That's what

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed doing the most. You studied artists on YouTube, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you listen to the music your dad played. That was

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Speaker 1: just I remember my I had teenage parents. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My parents a teenagers when they had me.

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Speaker 1: So I was I just remember listening to whatever was hot,

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Speaker 1: and UM which was like this is like early two thousands,

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Speaker 1: I think I might have been like five or six

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Speaker 1: years old when it came out, The College Dropout. That

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Speaker 1: I remember like, oh wow, Like I just like how

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Speaker 1: just like looking up like lyrics and taking it to

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Speaker 1: a whole another level with my free time and just

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Speaker 1: going on YouTube and just going on a YouTube binge

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Speaker 1: of like Big L Nas, going through like the Big

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Speaker 1: l jay Z freestyle, UM, just all of these things,

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Speaker 1: think that's what made me like just take my love

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Speaker 1: someone who can bridge the gap between generations because there's

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Speaker 1: I've heard that before. I never really thought about it

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Speaker 1: All just happen. It just happened. So as an artist,

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Speaker 1: But um, a lot of people who have definitely like

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Speaker 1: the person that can bridge between like you've coached and

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't really like put too much thought

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Speaker 1: ask me this question because I know there's so many

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Speaker 1: people that want to wrap, and there's so many that's

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Speaker 1: in school. You prioritize education. It was serious to you,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time music was blowing. It's starting

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Speaker 1: the people that for the youngsters that's in school, that

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Speaker 1: that that's trying to wrap, how do you balance both? Man?

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Speaker 1: I honestly, for me personally, I'm just, um, I'm an

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Speaker 1: unequivocal dreamer. I was just like, you know what, what's

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Speaker 1: the definition of unequivocal? I don't I don't want to

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Speaker 1: give you the wrong definition, but basically I might have

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Speaker 1: honestly used it in the wrong term, but unequivocal because

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Speaker 1: the reason why I say that because when people come

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Speaker 1: don't understand. I asked for the definition because I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it mean unequivalent? Let me let me google it.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we do that? Because it sounded good when

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Speaker 1: you said it. I wanted to unequivectly dreamed too. So

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Speaker 1: your your leakers, I was like oh and then there

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00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: like next thing I know, he's coming on the show.

429
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, that's crazy, that's I found

430
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: out about. And yeah, it's crazy how that work out

431
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: A little Wayne Wheezy just takeover like that oh eight

432
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: car to three era and then no ceilings. And Wayne

433
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: is one of those ones to where he's been doing

434
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: this ship and he was twelve years old, like and

435
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 1: he's only just kept getting bigger, like that's crazy. And

436
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: still today like he's still just like knocking it off.

437
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you gotta love what now he killed that.

438
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you. I mean the world to me.

439
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, Wayne is just one of those like

440
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: crazy like crazy, Yeah, he's one of the greatest artists

441
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: of all time. Just like a matter of fact. I

442
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: funny enough, man, I met you just a couple of

443
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 1: days ago. I met him a couple of times before,

444
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: but it was just on some tapping up moving ship.

445
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: But I actually got to meet him and have like

446
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: a a light conversation with him. To date, my album dropped.

447
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: So the night that my album dropped shout out Dave Chappelle.

448
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: We put up on y compound and Dave Chappelle. Actually, um,

449
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: he introduced me TOA and we got to have just

450
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, small conversation. I got to play him some music.

451
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 1: He played me some unreleased music, and it was just

452
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: like I got to tell him, like, yo, nigga, like

453
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: you probably like I know you hit this ship from everybody, nigga,

454
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: but now I ain't even gonna lead as motherfucker. And

455
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: just because how I used to be like when I'm

456
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: around like people I idolized when I first met him,

457
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: I try to just be not too cool for school,

458
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: but try not to be like super fans out because

459
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, um, you don't want to see you. Still

460
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: we are still peers. These are my idols at the

461
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: end of the day. But I never wanted to be,

462
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, like I saut. I'm from Maryland. So the

463
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: way we look at it, like man, you're on Dick

464
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: too much, you know what I'm saying, Like where I

465
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: come from, it's like now I don't ever be on

466
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: Dick or don't be too cool, so I'm meeting like

467
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: people that I idolized. I never asked for no pick

468
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, I never pulled a phone out, you know,

469
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: dap them up. It's love. We have a dope convo.

470
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 1: It's always like mutual respect. But I was just like,

471
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: man like, when I start meeting like certain idols, I

472
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: just got to tell them what they mean because like

473
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: you just never and honestly, Kobe, when when Kobe passed,

474
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: you know, because I got to meet Kobe a couple

475
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: of times, and it sucked that I never got to

476
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: tell him, like really what he meant to me. You

477
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like how big I used to

478
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: play two k and just try to score eighty points

479
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: in five minute quarters with this nigger, Like when I'm boring,

480
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: that's that's literally what I would do, just like just

481
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: play with Kobe, trying to score eighty points in five

482
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: minute quarters with him. And um, I said that to say,

483
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, like yo, like you are

484
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: my biggest influence. And I say that, I said, whenever

485
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm in an interview or whenever I'm talking, I was like,

486
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: I tell nig it's like, yo, Kanye West is like

487
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: my biggest influence. He was like, yeah, you better say

488
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: that ship. Yeah you better tell them that ship. But

489
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: I say that to say when I meet these just

490
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: got to get people their flowers to re released three

491
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: Miss tapes as a as a teenager Anxiety. I'm so anxious,

492
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: Steen and I'm so anonymous in explain those projects and

493
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: each one you got better? And what was the difference

494
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: between these three When Anxiety came out, I was teen

495
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: years old. Um, it's funny. I got my first studio equipment,

496
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: um on some Jakie ship low key so um. One

497
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: of my cousins um stumbled into some items you get

498
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that that wasn't his or whatever, and

499
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: he broke me off on something, you know. And I

500
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: was able to uh translate these equitable items into cash,

501
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: and I was able to invest that into a little

502
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: home set up, you know. And that's how I recorded

503
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: those first three mixtapes. And you get the last and

504
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: and so shout my motherfucker cousin, you know who you were.

505
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: I got a break matter fact when I see I

506
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: gotta break you off. So I gotta break you off

507
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: something straight up. And and and that roommate that was

508
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: getting annoyed by the music, holla, holla, I don't know,

509
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: don't started in cluing next people I got breaking like

510
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: I look for nothing. Look where I'm at now? You

511
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: was getting known about the music. Look where you at that? Sure?

512
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: I remember just um making these It was just fun, man,

513
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: But I was a kid, a teenager at this time.

514
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm treating these things because I remember, like Good Kid

515
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: mass City probably came out the year or two years

516
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: after that, and that probably drinking itself got a huge

517
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: influence on me, especially at this time. That's when I'm

518
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: taking music all the way serious, you know, And um,

519
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 1: I see this, and um, I'm treating my album. I'm

520
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: trying to compete with Good Kid Mass City. At sixteen

521
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: years old, I'm like, nah, bro, we gotta have our interludes,

522
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: gotta be right. I'm spending all this meticulous time into

523
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: uh production and the sequence and up this mixtape like

524
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the one that changed my life. Like

525
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: it's gonna get like a million people gonna hear it.

526
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: You know, I dropped it and do like two thousand

527
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: downloads or whatever. But I'm treating it as if it's

528
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: like my debut album. And say, and what, I'm so anxious.

529
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: I made that in college that that was a good time,

530
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: um man, I was just having fun, you know, how

531
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: well matter if I'm sure y'all college didn't yeah, oh yeah,

532
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know you're straight for shore. I'm sure

533
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: your college experience was a lot different than mine, but

534
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: still at the same time, it's still fun. Oh yeah, no,

535
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: it's still fun for sure. And so that just brings

536
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: me back to college times. And that one, like my

537
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 1: first mix tape probably did like a thousand downloads on

538
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: this app called spin reller s really you know, spener

539
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: for sure, um, and I'm so anxious that like two

540
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: thousand downloads. So I'm like, oh man, I'm coming up.

541
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: I'm getting bigger this and that. And then I remember

542
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm so anonymous. They're like thou hunted downloads. I'm like,

543
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: oh my, like what what am I doing wrong? But

544
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: like how am I declining? You know? And but it

545
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: gave me the confidence with them. I felt low when

546
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: I'm so anom this drop because I'm like, man, like

547
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: I do something wrong and is this music ship for me?

548
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: And you know, like what's going on? But then I'm like, nah, bro,

549
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: like I'm him. And you got to have that confidence

550
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: within yourself to just to even want to do something

551
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: like be an up and coming artist. Bro, being the

552
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: artists ain't cool when you got a thousand followers, being

553
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: the all this ain't cool when you drop a mixtape

554
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: and then do five hundred downloads and two hundred them

555
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: is your friends and family, you know, like people just

556
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: see that. You gotta really have the utmost confidence in

557
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: yourself and and belief and just straight up almost craziness

558
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: and faith, you know, to even do something like getting

559
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: into music, because it's like being a a starving artists

560
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: or you want to be a rapper, but you ain't

561
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: lit yet, you're not professional at it yet. That's probably

562
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: like the most look down upon profession and in society

563
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. And yeah, just confidence, man, you

564
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: know it's funny, man, I don't know why the world

565
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: don't like to see like confident black males are confident

566
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: black people. It's just something I noticed. They're like, nah, bro,

567
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: stay humble like m for sure. Like it's something about

568
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, you gotta have humility, you know where

569
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: you come from, and keep that in mind. And don't

570
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: you know, get too much, you know, dip on your

571
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: chip and don't start feeling yourself. It's very important it's

572
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: a balance. But even when you have like a little

573
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: bit of confidence within yourself, like the world as a

574
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: as a black person, they don't like to see that.

575
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: They won't nabro stay humble, stay low and again you

576
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: do gotta stay humble for sure, to a certain extent.

577
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: But it's something about that that don't feel right to me,

578
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. You know what I'm saying. Whenever

579
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: anybody in any feel like an athlete, that's like like

580
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: when Floyd was, you know, boast full. I mean, this

581
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: nig is undefeated. Why shouldn't he be that way? A

582
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: certain NBA plans when they're real boats for they're like,

583
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: now you gotta stay humble. And certain artists when they

584
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: boast for they're like, na, I stay humble, like bro

585
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: we was four is to being humble. Not to go

586
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: that far, but it's it's just the truth, you know

587
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Another have a many years with segregation,

588
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: we had to be humble. You know, why shouldn't we

589
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: have confidence within ourselves? Na for real? So it takes

590
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: that I say all that to say it takes confidence

591
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: and belief in yourself to even get from what I

592
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: find to to get where you want to go, being

593
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: that you're human and you had went through the stage

594
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: where you was down on yourself, right, did you use

595
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: Was it good to have social media to continue to

596
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: promote yourself? We're during that time, Yeah, for sure. I

597
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: used to text people and be like, yo, nigga, retweet

598
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: my ship. Like I used to do that, like for

599
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: the early ones. Then the third one or the second one.

600
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 1: I was just like, nah, bro, people gonna support it.

601
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just organically gain supporters and follows what

602
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: I found out. Like before, I just be like, yo,

603
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: text order. You used to try to cheat code it,

604
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: like text whoever it was in my phone contact, I

605
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: don't give a funk If it was a pre Jon

606
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: the bad is joined in the school. Whoever, I'm gonna

607
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: text you be like, y'all retweet this. You know what

608
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I text to the popping girls. You know

609
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Who I went to school, We're like, yo,

610
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: you're trying to do a video like with my song

611
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: in the background whatever whatever. And you know, because I

612
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: was just a cool nigger, like they were funk with it,

613
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: and so I would just try to utilize my classmates

614
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, because if it's like the like the bad

615
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: the local bad joint, she's gonna have like a couple

616
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: of thousand follows everybody watching her and what she's doing.

617
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: It might be she might even have like some cousins

618
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: that follow her that's like out of state that you know,

619
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: she can tell that see my music and learn about

620
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: it from there. So I just looked at it like

621
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: I ain't even nothing off the table. Man. It's really

622
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: like it's not even weird. It's crazy. How like when

623
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: you're like in alignment with everything, how just things just

624
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: start connecting. Explain to us, how about you ays had

625
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: a nice little run before you kind of went different

626
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: directions and for sure for sure, so um, now mirror

627
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I saw the joint like the y being thing like

628
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: later they was already like doing that thing. So now

629
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: mirroring Jay. Um. They met each other through Xbox, and UM.

630
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: I was never big on a game like that, to

631
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: be honest. I just played I played two K Madden.

632
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: They could just the regular ship and um, but they

633
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: were like they had like a clan on on Xbox

634
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: for real. That's all. Oh that's fire and that's what

635
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: the world is. That's what the future honestly for sure,

636
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: and there was ahead of their time with that shout

637
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: out to them, and um, it's funny not me was

638
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: actually um my brother Simba, who locked up right now.

639
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: He rocked with Simba's music heavy, and me and Simba

640
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: would do music together. So now Mirror just reached out

641
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: like yo, like I rocked with you, and we were

642
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: just linking up whenever he was like in Maryland, just

643
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: link up with him, you know what I'm saying, make

644
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: sure he was good and all that, and whenever he

645
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: was in the same city, were just automatically link up.

646
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Then he was like, bro, like you gotta do this.

647
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: Why being thing? And I was just like I kind

648
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: of just I got my own thing going. But then,

649
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: um it just made sense you know at the time, honestly,

650
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: and um but I was just around them, like just

651
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: just as the homie. You know. I never would like

652
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: pitch myself as an artist that will be like, no,

653
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get on, but you know I make

654
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: music too, like niggas ain't even know I wrapped, you know,

655
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: And um that's always gonna be a part of my legacy,

656
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: you know. I look back at those times. I mean

657
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun with them niggas, you

658
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I still talked to them here,

659
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: still talk to j like all the time. I mean,

660
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: it was just at my UM released party. Matter of fact,

661
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: you're the only one ain't being with nobody? Yeah for

662
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: sure everybody. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. I'll just keep it

663
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: off the net. But now I've got no problem with nobody.

664
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, everybody got their own thing. Man, Like that

665
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 1: ship is. It's funny though at the end of the day,

666
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: it's entertaining. Man, for sure, it's entertaining as fun though,

667
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: honestly it is for sure just dropping your second project.

668
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: When you go back to May two eighteen, you dropped

669
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: your first single, Introduction to the world. How you look

670
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: back on that first single, Man, it was just fun

671
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: because the realm of the unknown, you know, and it

672
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: did like a million views in a day. I was

673
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: just like, damn, it's like you're seeing yourself quote unquote

674
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: like blow up in real time. And those were like

675
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: not the most fun, but just like your first time

676
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: doing everything, Like y'all remember your first time you know,

677
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: being in l A are going to you know, London

678
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: on all these places I'm sure y'all been to a

679
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: thousand times over. Um, I see you always on some

680
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: fly stack. You you man gotta live it up for sure.

681
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: And I say that to say, um, it was just fun, man, honestly,

682
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: like just looking back at that, because I was still

683
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: in college at that time, I got a million views

684
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: in the day, I'm out of here, I was. I

685
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: was already dropped out. I was already not going. But

686
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: that's when I all the way made my mind. I'm like,

687
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: y'all for sure not doing that, Like I got a million,

688
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: that's all I always said. It's like, as soon as

689
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: I get a million views, that's all I need is

690
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: a million views and I'm out. And when I got

691
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: it in the day, I was likerurki and it came

692
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: in the day for sure that the label process Atlantic Records. Yeah,

693
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: shout out to Atlantic on our partners as well. Oh

694
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: that's dupe. How did that come about on that partnership? Um,

695
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: let me see Atlantic, you know, um, go back, go back. So,

696
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: uh you know not Mary and Ja was already signed

697
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: to Atlantic, So it just made the most sense. And honestly,

698
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: Atlantic is probably like the number one label for rap

699
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: for like hip hop and honestly it starts to prove that,

700
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: you know. But um, Julie Greenwall, Mike cous of Dallas

701
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: shout out all of them. YEA, yeah, for sure. Day

702
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: they was just when because I met with every you know,

703
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: every label wanted to sign me. But um, they were

704
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: just one of the most enthusiastic, the most um like

705
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: personal just like yo, like we we like whatever it takes,

706
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: like we gotta do it, you know. And um, I

707
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: just look at enthusiasm at the time and they were

708
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: like probably like one of the most enthusiastic, and it

709
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: just made the most sense, you know what I'm saying.

710
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: So shout out to them for sure. The debut album,

711
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: how long was the process? You the head all right?

712
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: When it's an album, Like when this album stuff like

713
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: I like the right because I go off the top

714
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: with like some records sometimes like for a hook, I'll

715
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of like have mercy, I just like freestyle that. Yeah,

716
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: it just depends on what the vibe is, honestly. But

717
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: when I write my my thoughts are a little more organized,

718
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little more like on topic versus

719
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: like when I'm off top, I just say whatever it

720
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: is that come to my mind, which is a dolt thing,

721
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, But it just depends on the type of

722
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: vibe this song is. But nine times out of tend,

723
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: I just like to write down my thoughts and my

724
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: ideas because it's just more like organized you know. You

725
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: and Wayne I was in the studio together, y'all made that,

726
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: and I sent that over to him. You ain't ever

727
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: seeing him, Yeah, Yeah, it's funny. We ended up connecting

728
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: because he had his UM his Young Money podcast actually,

729
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, like whatever you need young

730
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: and like, send that John to me. You get it

731
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: back the same day. And I waited like ten Yeah,

732
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: I waited for sure. That's wheezy. I waited like ten

733
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: months before I send him the song because it's just

734
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: dawned on me. I'm like, hey, bro, this nicka Wayne

735
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: told me to send him, so I still ain't send him.

736
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: I was bullshit. So I just went through a bunk.

737
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find him the perfect song, but I'm like,

738
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: I might already got it. So I went through UM

739
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Records and UM it was sinister the drint I had

740
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: with Hip. We just had that joint in tucks. I'm like,

741
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I think Wayne I was in the studio with my

742
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: boy in like, you think Wayne to sound good on this,

743
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: my boy, and he was like, yeah, duck, I think

744
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: this need to sell the dupe on it. I just

745
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: sent it to him and he sent it back in

746
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: twelve hours shout out before the Dave and ended thank you,

747
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: no thank you. Now It's funny, man, when I'm editing,

748
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: when I'm looking at the video edit and I see

749
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Wayne rapping, I'm like, that's Wayne. That's one of those moments,

750
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: like because you know how it is when you in it,

751
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: you it's like you gotta have a tunnel vision of

752
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: like all right, we knocked this out, Let's keep it moving,

753
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: let's keep it pushing, keep it going, try to get

754
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: to a higher level, no pun intended, keep working and

755
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: things of that nature. But it's certain moments what I've

756
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: been learning more, especially like the last couple of months,

757
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: you just gotta who side he's taking a moment and

758
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: just have a moment of just like gratefulness. Uh, not

759
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: that I've ever been like ungrateful, but just taking that

760
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: gratitude to a whole another level. And that was one

761
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: of the moments I'm like, wow, bro, I got a

762
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: song keeping In the video, he's singing your part worth words. Yeah,

763
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: when you go back and look at that like crazy,

764
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you watched the video, you'll notice,

765
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: like I'm watching, I get this ballot like I couldn't

766
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: hide it on camera. You know that's Wayne wrapping my

767
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: my lyrics that I wrote down, you know. And you

768
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: know he did the video a lot of times. You know,

769
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: you know Wayne at doing a video. No so he

770
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: won't show up on you. I heard a bunch of

771
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: he's like, oh ye, I waited to show up like

772
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: him be showing up on niggas, you know. So it

773
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: was just a lot of respect and love for him

774
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: to even just bless me, you know, being a part

775
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: of it. You know, that's this man founded Drake bro

776
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj, Like what in the world for real? Um,

777
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: from your vision board to actually making it happen Freshman

778
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: XXL two thousand nineteen. Yeah, amongst Roddy Rich and making

779
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: the stallion the name a few what was that experience?

780
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: Like that was dope. Every artist coming up you want

781
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: to be on the cover a double X self, every artist.

782
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: I definitely had it on my bill on my UM

783
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Double x Self freshman list. I even said twenty nineteen,

784
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna do it. I'm a nineteen double x

785
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: self freshman all day and um and I got my

786
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: classes mean by the way we got I got a

787
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: mean class, Megan no Stalion like, it's some real stars

788
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: on it all the way. So, um, that was definitely

789
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: a bucket list thing I always wanted to do. You

790
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: hit the role last year and got a chance to

791
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: visit a bunch of h B c U's uh something

792
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: me and Jack want to do. What was that like

793
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: and what was the thought process behind that? Yeah? So

794
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: my main thing was I wanted to just um, I

795
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: wanted to just play my music for the people to

796
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: figure it, like, to just get like real opinions on it.

797
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: Because everybody who I played by music for, they're my peers.

798
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: They're like superstar artists, you know what I'm saying, So

799
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: they have elevated ear if that makes sense. I like

800
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: playing my music for virgin ears, people who aren't in entertainment,

801
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: who aint in the music because they just like either

802
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: I like this song or I don't like it. I'm

803
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: playing it for like other artists they like I like

804
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: this song. I feel as though you can add more.

805
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: You know, they're more technical with it versus like you're

806
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: just playing it for fans and people that just they're

807
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: just to hear it. They're just like I like this

808
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: song or I don't like this song. You know, it's

809
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: more single like that. And I just wanted to play

810
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: for all people and give these, uh the students, like

811
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: an experience they ain't gonna forget, Like, yeah, I remember

812
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: when Corda pulled up to our college talking child would

813
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: chop it up with them for a little bit. Get

814
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: whatever game, whatever knowledge I got, because I'm just the

815
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 1: same age as all these you know what I'm saying,

816
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: So i don't got all the answers, and I'm not

817
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: gonna ever pretend like I got all the answers. But

818
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: whatever knowledge I got, if I can just be a light,

819
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: be a little bit of motivation, then I walk away happy.

820
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: And even more than that, I got to, you know,

821
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: just sit down and play them to music from from

822
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: top to bottle, from starting to finish, and just to

823
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: get like real life reactions and how they felt about

824
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: the music. And I put a battery in my back

825
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: to I know like okay, okay, this is gonna be

826
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: one of the ones. Okay, this is one of them. Okay,

827
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: like it is ready. You know, social justice I was

828
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: telling we was talking about this recently. Um. I remember

829
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: my first time actually seeing you and meeting you was

830
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: when I was going through the stuff with George for

831
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: all my brother Minnesota and Minnesota. And for me, it

832
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: meant a lot to see to see you and heard

833
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: in the crowd just like everybody else, no security there

834
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: for the cause, and you know it was personal for

835
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: me because it was somebody was my real friend, you

836
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But to see you there and

837
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: see y'all there, I think it meant the world, uh

838
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: for me to have your support. Man. But how important

839
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: for you is it to you? For people to stand

840
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: up and to speak their mind on social justice issues?

841
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: Are issues that you know that pertained the black lives matters.

842
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: It goes back to what we were saying earlier, like

843
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: you just got to speak on what you believe in,

844
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: you know. And I used to always go to like

845
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: different protests and when I was like in high school

846
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: and in college, I remember going up Michael Brown protests

847
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: in d C. I remember, you know, philandocul Still and

848
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: like a thousand other names unfortunately, you know. So the

849
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Speaker 1: only difference now is that I just have a platform,

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Speaker 1: so I'm just always going to speak upon what it's real,

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Speaker 1: you know, and what I feel, what I connect to

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Speaker 1: and just seeing black people get killed by the police.

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Speaker 1: Still this is like a hundred year, four hundred year concept.

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Speaker 1: You know. The fact that we're still talking about it

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Speaker 1: is it's ridiculous, for lack of a better word, and um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's fucking crazy, dog and um, you know, obviously condolences,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know that hit home for all of us,

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Speaker 1: but it's different when you actually know the person. You know.

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Speaker 1: And I say that to say, yeah, just just doing

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Speaker 1: it because it's the right thing to do, and I

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Speaker 1: know it's a lot of entertained is I was doing

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Speaker 1: it because it's like the cool thing. It's like what's

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Speaker 1: popular opinion now, But you know what, the way I

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Speaker 1: look at it is, I don't even give a funk

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Speaker 1: if you're doing it for pure and pure reasons, because

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Speaker 1: as long as you you know what your platform, whether

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Speaker 1: it's pure, it's coming from a pure place, So you're

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Speaker 1: doing it from your personal game or not, it's still

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Speaker 1: shedding light on something that needs to be shed light

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Speaker 1: on so like it, you know, because I used to

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Speaker 1: get mad about it, Like, man, these niggas is like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was quote I hate this term. I

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Speaker 1: was quote unquote wote won cool back then he was

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Speaker 1: woke a little bit in twelve you was a conspiracy theory,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it was not you

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Speaker 1: wasn't getting no coach being woke in twelve whether year

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Speaker 1: was now you can woke yourself into some puss, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like for real, like and and

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Speaker 1: not that people hopefully nobody do it for that right,

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Speaker 1: but it's just the truth. But but um, I just

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Speaker 1: always like to speak upon things that I just connected with.

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Speaker 1: Like I was young reading about w E. B. Du Boys,

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Speaker 1: reading about Marcus Garvey, reading about Huey Newton. I was

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Speaker 1: a little nigger ten years all reading these things. I

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Speaker 1: used to read Harry Potter all the times, and my

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Speaker 1: stepdad was like, yo, if you can read Harry Potter,

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Speaker 1: you can read you know, books on Thurgo Marshall, w E. B.

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Speaker 1: Du Boys, Um, Malcolm Max, Marcus Garvey's I'm ten years

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Speaker 1: old getting all his knowledge. So I'm like the little

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Speaker 1: nigger in school with the with the dashiki on. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, and back then it wasn't

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Speaker 1: cool to have an understanding. You know. It's just James

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Speaker 1: borrowin quote to be even, and I might be misquoting it,

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Speaker 1: but to paraphrase it, it's like to be like significantly

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Speaker 1: aware is to be just a little bit socially conscious.

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Speaker 1: And to be black in America is to be enraged

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Speaker 1: all the time. And if you're smart and you know

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Speaker 1: what's going on, you mad but sure like but um

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Speaker 1: it's it's am like I said that, I'm just glad

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Speaker 1: more light is being shad on it, even if it's

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Speaker 1: coming from an impure place from people like it, at

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Speaker 1: least as the conversation. You know, we're coming down. We

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Speaker 1: actually had more time. But when we're coming down to

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Speaker 1: the end, we got quick hitters here. So the first

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Speaker 1: thing to come to mind letters. Now I'm gonna put

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Speaker 1: you on the spot right here. Okay, use all the

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Speaker 1: smoke in a quick freestyle. Okay, let me see. Uh

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Speaker 1: make a couple of millions from the bars I wrote,

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Speaker 1: And if nigga got a problem, we want all the smoke,

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Speaker 1: you know, quick. Top five lyricists of all time, in

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Speaker 1: your mind, your opinion. I'm gonna give top five artists

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Speaker 1: because I value artist, street and good music over just okay. Um,

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Speaker 1: let me see my top five artists of all time.

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Speaker 1: Gotta go ya, Kanye West, Um, gotta go hold. This

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Speaker 1: is just my personally. You gotta go. I'm on top five.

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Speaker 1: Gotta go Kayane West, Um, gotta go hold. Give me

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Speaker 1: Kendrick m h nas nasty. Give me Drake Nice Nice

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Speaker 1: to five. I like he's stuck on the island. Three

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Speaker 1: shows or movies you have I'll repeat, Am I by myself?

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Speaker 1: Now you can? You can have a guest if you like. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if I'm by myself, I don't watching. I get that

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Speaker 1: hub on I'm working with you. I'd give me one channel.

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Speaker 1: I'll breaking down for nothing with you. Probably Friday. Um

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Speaker 1: uh trade in places. I love that movie, and yeah

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Speaker 1: and and uh Dave Chappelle Show, The Chappelle Show all day,

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Speaker 1: talking about that's one of the best shows of all time.

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Speaker 1: Or Boom Dave Chappelle Show, Bone Docks and Friday, those

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Speaker 1: three right there in the hub. If I got a

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Speaker 1: fourth one, don't forget about the hub. Five dinner guests

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Speaker 1: that are alive. Okay, Michael Jackson, Tupac. Um, let me see,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Tupac. That's a mean too. Um, just depends

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Speaker 1: on who paying right, Uh, let me see. Um you

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Speaker 1: gotta now you're good right, all right, that's a good too,

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Speaker 1: right there? Um hm hmm Ooh Kobe, Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 1: have Kobe up there. Um, gotta put Hove up there.

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Speaker 1: You know the five hundred thousands. Then it with jay Z.

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Speaker 1: Somebody needs to make like an actual parody to get

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Speaker 1: a hole like you know, man, why doon't you take

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Speaker 1: the fine on it? Yo? Like question about that? Right? Um? Damn,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. We gotta bring some joints at the table.

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Speaker 1: I just can't have all niggas at the table. You know,

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Speaker 1: they gotta have some feminine energy and mm hmm ah

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Speaker 1: I guess Oprah, like, yo, what what what's all niggas here?

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Speaker 1: You know? What's that? If you can have one guest

945
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Speaker 1: on All the Smoke, who would it be? But before

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Speaker 1: you answer the question, you have to help us get

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Speaker 1: your answer on here on the show. Oh that's good okay,

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Speaker 1: um huh, I would love to see um m hmm

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Speaker 1: all the smoke? Do you know a lot of people. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. I'm trying to get somebody that because I'm

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Speaker 1: a man of my word, you know what, So I

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Speaker 1: want to have I want to get somebody that like

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Speaker 1: I can for sure call yes, um, I would say

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Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle, but he don't really do. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to promise over promise on the the lever, but you

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Speaker 1: can try that because you know hen he smoked too.

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Speaker 1: So once you put the press on, let me know

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Speaker 1: then I'll texting right after you. We put the full

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Speaker 1: corp press here for sure? Huh all the smoke? Who

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Speaker 1: I want to see on here? I just noticed you

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Speaker 1: ain't light now one for you? Oh damn that. I'm

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Speaker 1: on my fast for me when when I finished my fast,

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Speaker 1: I need the vowel, I need a seventh Take that

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Speaker 1: with me. Now take that with me, my outbouting. I

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Speaker 1: got you, I got you. Next time I'm up here,

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Speaker 1: I'm deaf. I'm coming with one. I'm coming. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I'm still locked in, like

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Speaker 1: I'm finishing up. I'm low key working on a whole

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Speaker 1: another body of work right now, like as we speak.

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Speaker 1: So when I got this joint, it's not go time

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Speaker 1: like for real, when it's time to kick and let

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Speaker 1: us know all day and we appreciate you coming. Man.

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Speaker 1: We came not let you leave. All the smoke. Come on, y'all,

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Speaker 1: swag it out however you feel when you feel you

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Speaker 1: did what I'm saying some hot qualities, you know. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna work around. We ain't. Y'all got the label on. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta y'all some gear to some high level. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I need that need that, we need all the smoke

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Speaker 1: that store birds our view, Go get it man, Corday.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you. You come back man, all the smoke.

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Speaker 1: Check out the album from a bird's eye view and

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Speaker 1: can cancelus Showtime Basketball, YouTube, and the hard platform Black

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Speaker 1: Effects see you all next week. This is All a Smoke,

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Speaker 1: a production of The Black Effect and Our Heart Radio

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