1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: trusted colleague Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: our studios at lambeau Field and unfortunately West talking about 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: another loss for the green Bay Packers Sunday at Lambo 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: to ten to the New York Jets. And we can 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: touch on a little bit in all three phases because 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: there was a lot that went wrong in this game 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: for green Bay, but starting on offense, because hearing from 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur both after the game and on Monday, a 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: lot of problems for the Packers up front with the 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: blocking the offensive line, and it sounds like things are 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: going to be examined in terms of potential personnel changes here. 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how that shakes out. But 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: but things could be changing up front for green Bay's 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: offense every once in a while, Mike and Insider in box, 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: and also it'll seep into final thoughts, we'll tell talk 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: about winning in the trenches, winning up front. That isn't 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: just a convenient cliche, it's the truth. And the New 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: York Giants I felt like in this game, and it's 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: not just the Packers offensive line, it's both sides of 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: the ball. They were able to impose their will and 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: they were the team that was better up front, and 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: you saw how it impacted things right from the get go. 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean Quinnin Williams, for my money, probably the best 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: player on the field on Sunday, especially the way he 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: penetrated both against the run. Packers were not able to 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: get their concepts going in that regard and then being 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: among the guys that was pressuring Aaron Rodgers nine quarterback hits, 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: three of those belonged to Williams. The Packers just weren't 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: able to get into their stuff. That was one of 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: the big messages that Matt Lafleur had as far as 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: the game plan was concerned. I think when you hear 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur discussed it for twenty five minutes, you understand 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: what they were looking for and why they weren't able 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: to get to certain things. But at the end of 37 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the day, I think the most frustrating thing is the 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: way the Packers finished in London is the way they 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: started back at lambeau Field, and ultimately it just wasn't 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: good enough. Yeah, And it's interesting because you know, up 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: through the first you know, five games of the season, 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: including coming back from the London game, we were talking about, 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, run pass ratio and how many touches this 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: guy gets and that guy gets. This game was not 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: about that at all, because the Packers were having so 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: much trouble upfront with the stunts and the twists, and 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: as you said, they just couldn't they couldn't get into 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: their stuff, and and uh, it didn't matter, it didn't 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: matter who was supposed to get the ball or whatever. 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: The Jets up front, we're just wrecking anything that um 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: that Green Bay wanted to do. On the defensive side. 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: This it felt to me, and you know me, I'm 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: a baseball fan, so I'm gonna use a baseball analogy here. 54 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: It felt to me like like a pictures duel because 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: early on, both both of these defenses were having their way. 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Nobody was getting anything done offensively, and you know, in 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: a pictures duel, if it gets to like the sixth 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: or seventh inning and both pictures out there, you know, 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: are feel like they have to be perfect because their 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: offense is not doing anything against the other guy's picture. 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: And then as soon as a mistake has made, suddenly 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: it's not just one run on the board, it's like 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: three or four or five, and then a pictures duel 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: actually turns into a runaway, turns into a blowout. That's 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: what this game felt like, because three to three at halftime, 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: and then the Packers defense got a three and outright 67 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: at the start of the third quarter. But then after 68 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: that the play action rollout and the forty one yard 69 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: passed down the field to Corey Davis. That felt like 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: the one that that broke the damn It opened the 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: floodgates because from that moment on, the Packers defense that 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: suddenly had allowed only three points through eight possessions for 73 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: the Jets, then suddenly allowed two hundred yards over the 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: next three possessions and couldn't get itself off the field, 75 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: and the Jets offense that have been non existent in 76 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the third quarter up until that game only three point 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: downe the season, was able to find the end zone twice. 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: It was a difficult situation for Green Bay because you 79 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: do sympathize with how it performed out of the gate. Again, 80 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: started fast, four three notes in their first five possessions 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: under any metric that should be enough to allow your 82 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: football team to be able to get out to a lead. 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: But what hampered Green Bay in this game. Mike and 84 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: I thought Adrian Amos did a phenomenal job of outlining 85 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: this after the game. If you're not going to have takeaways, 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: and the Packers have again struggled to get takeaways, they 87 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: lost that battle again in this matchup. If you're not 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: going to have takeaways, it's going to be difficult to 89 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: keep in a opposition off the board because the way 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: this game is played, especially in this year, there's going 91 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: to be an explosive Now, how you react after that 92 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: is still something to be said. But ultimately it came 93 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: down to three plays for the New York Jets. It 94 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: was at forty one yard pass the Davis. It was 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: the twenty yard run for a touchdown by Barrios, which 96 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: was the very next snap. And then also Breeze Hall, 97 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: who you and I spent two episodes last week talking 98 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: about how dynamic this young man is. He finally ended 99 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: up breaking one, got the thirty four yard touchdown That 100 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: was basically it. In addition to the fact the Packers 101 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: had the punt block returned for a touchdown. But defensively, 102 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: that's all the Packers really conceded. But in a game 103 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: like this, when your offense isn't producing, we're not getting takeaways, 104 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: and you're not perfect in another phase, you're absolutely right 105 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: with the pitchers dual analogy, because the Packers blanked first 106 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: and the Jets were able to pull out a big victory. Yeah, 107 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: and you mentioned the punt block for a touchdown. Very 108 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: disheartening to see the special team's breakdowns. There was a 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: blocked field goal when the Packers were trying to get 110 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: on the board early, then the block punt for a touchdown. Ultimately, 111 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: that's you know, as we talked about with the playoff 112 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: game against the forty niners last year, that's ten points 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: in a game that, in this case, the Packers lose 114 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: by seventeen. So, even with withything that was going on 115 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: offensively and defensively, the special teams that had had come 116 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: so far, I think in a pretty short amount of time, frankly, 117 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: with what we had seen through the first five games 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: on special teams, the first big breakdowns, the first big letdowns, 119 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: happened in that phase, and this was absolutely the game 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: you couldn't afford. I mean, that's Murphy's law, right, I mean, 121 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: if something, when something can go wrong, it will and uh. 122 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: And what had been the most stable phase of the 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: game for Green Bay with Rich Pisaccia turning around these 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: special teams they had a bad day as well. Yeah 125 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: they did. And here's the probably the most frustrating part 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: of this thing. Offensively, Packers did not play well enough, 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: no question about that. You can't get ten points. You 128 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: can't really only have two big drives. You have to 129 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: you have to do better than that, especially at this league, 130 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: to to outdule the opponent. The maddening thing on defensive 131 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: special teams is Adjustments were made, Improvements were made, but 132 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: it ultimately was big plays that erote it defensively. Just 133 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: before we jump into special teams, JR. Alexander people calling 134 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: for him to match a receiver. He matched Garrett Wilson 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: and this thing completely took Wilson out of the game. 136 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: The Packers wanted to do better against the run. They 137 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: buy in large, did that in the first half before 138 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: some big runs in the second half. It looked like 139 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: a more complete unit special teams. They get a punt 140 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: block earlier in the game. Eric Wilson, the recent signing 141 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: a guy that had a previous block when he was 142 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: with Minnesota three or four years ago. He was able 143 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: to come out make a play leads to a six 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: yard punt, So he doesn't get credit for it, but 145 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: it's still gave green Bay the ball inside Jets territory. Well, 146 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: what happens later on, they get the field goal blocked, 147 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: they get the punt blocked, those type of plays, Mike 148 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: in that one play, one down sort of mentality of 149 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: special teams, it's too much, it hurts you too much, 150 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: and it wipes out all the positivity that Green Bay 151 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: had had in that game, being able to keep the 152 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: Jets win the position battle. Again, as regards to the field, 153 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: a big play like that that puts points on the 154 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: board ultimately is just the same as an interception for 155 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: a touchdown. It's just it's it's it's a big play 156 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: that happens that ultimately turns the tide of a football game. Well, 157 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: a few things to talk about personnel wise as far 158 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: as what we saw in this game and we may 159 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: or may not see going forward. But Keyshawn Nixon is 160 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: the new kickoff returner um for this special teams unit, 161 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: and he was darn close to break in one. Um, 162 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: he looked like maybe if he if he slips one 163 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: more tackle, he could have been he could have been 164 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: out the gate. Randall Cobb, unfortunately, Um sustained an ankle injury, 165 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: although it sounds like it is not as serious as 166 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: maybe initially initially feared he's going to miss some time, 167 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: but all indications are it's not a season ending ankle injury. 168 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: So that could lead to, you know, we may see 169 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: some more of a Marii Rodgers on offense, and we 170 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: saw him late in the game essentially running a Randall 171 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: Cobb crossing route from the slot, makes a catch, moves 172 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: the chains for a first down there. So we'll keep 173 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: an eye that. And then as far as the offensive line, 174 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Jake Hanson had stepped in for Race Newman Newman, but 175 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: Hanson Hanson injures a bicep then has to leave. Newman 176 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: goes back in. Lots of talk right now and speculation 177 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: as to whether Elton Jenkins is going to stay at 178 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: right tackle or if the Packers are going to move 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: him to a guard spot. And if they do move 180 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: into a guard spot, then what is the domino effect there? 181 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: So UM lots of personnel things here to keep an 182 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: eye on moving forward as the Packers head to the 183 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: nation's capital this weekend. First and foremost, I love Randall 184 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: cop because I know you're not big on social media, 185 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: but he had probably the best one to combination I 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: think I've ever seen. I did, I did see it 187 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: Instagram story him and you feel terrible that the photos 188 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: look terrible, the videos look heartbreaking. I mean the guy's 189 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: crying putting the thing or thinking he broke his ankle. Yeah, 190 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: he thought he thought his career was over. As Aaron 191 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: Rodgers said after the game, in the moment, he thought 192 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: that was it. Yeah, and at thirty two years old, 193 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: you just never can be sure, and you know how 194 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: these things work. But then you see the second one, 195 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: which you can go looking on Instagram yourself if you' 196 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: see it, but just need less say, a man dancing 197 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: with crutches in celebration the fact that he could be 198 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: back soon. That's huge for Green Bay's offense. They need 199 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: him back. I think time has proven that Randall Cobb 200 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: is not going to play seventy snaps a game anymore. 201 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: That much is certain. I know he would love to, 202 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: but that's not the Royal green Bay's asking of him. 203 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: But time and time again, Mike, it's not a coincidence 204 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: over the last year how we've seen Aaron Rodgers turned 205 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: to him in those third down situations. There were positives 206 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: to this thing for green Bay. Alan Lazard every week 207 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: looks more and more like a top flight receiver had 208 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: a great back shoulder catch for a touchdown, which you 209 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: would have loved to see that play in that series 210 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: to start a game, to get yourself moving the football. 211 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Robert touny In set a new Packers record with ten receptions, 212 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: being able to again be that third down target late 213 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: when the Packers a go to target, late when Randall 214 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: Cobb wasn't available, but ultimately not being able to run 215 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: the ball well enough. Whatever phase you want to put 216 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: that on, the blocking scheme, whatever, we it's not just 217 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: about getting the ball in people's hands. It's about being 218 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: able to make use out of those yardage, and sixty 219 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: rushing yards just isn't going to get the job done. 220 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: What is the transition? What is the adjustment? I thought 221 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Joe Barry showed last week that you can reset the board, 222 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: you can do things differently offensively. How they go about 223 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: doing that that is the task at hand for Aaron Rodgers, 224 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and these coaches trying to figure out what 225 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: the best foot forward will be. Yeah, and ultimately right now, 226 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: this is this is the biggest regular season challenge of 227 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the Matt Lafleur era, not just because of back to 228 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: back losses in a regular season for the first time, 229 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: but how the Packers have looked quite frankly on both 230 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: sides of the ball the last six quarters um and 231 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: then also with with with the special teams breakdowns popping up. 232 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: This team has a This team has a major, major 233 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: challenge in front of it. And I mean, obviously in 234 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: the past they've dealt with injuries to David baktr and 235 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins and Aaron Rodgers missing a game with COVID 236 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: and you know all of at this is this is 237 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: bigger right now, This is a bigger challenge than all 238 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: that in terms in terms of, uh, the challenge for 239 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: the leadership of the team, both coaching wise and player 240 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: wise in the locker room. And uh, this is this 241 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: is a team that's gotta that's got to fight its 242 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: way out of a hole here. And this is a 243 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: place that that Matt Lafleur as head coach of the 244 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers has not been in before. So it's 245 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: going to be very interesting to see what the response 246 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: is because right now, as you said it, I said 247 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: it in Insider inbox. What matters now is the response 248 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: you got, you got. The Packers have gotten knocked down 249 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: and then they were knocked down again a second week 250 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: in a row. What's the response? What are you going 251 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: to do? And um, this team has the veteran leaders. 252 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: They believe in the players in the locker room, they 253 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: certainly believe in the coaching staff. What are they going 254 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: to do? How are they going to pull it back together? 255 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: Because three and three not what anybody expected, not where 256 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: this team expected to be six games into the season. 257 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: And that's why I really the appreciated many of the 258 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: veterans who talked after the game their perspective on things, 259 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: because there is several of these rookies, first year player, 260 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: not rookies, but first, second, third year players, players have 261 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: only been here during the Mattin floor area, maybe had 262 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: successful college careers that don't know what it's like to 263 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: lose off the bat. Adrian Imus was discussing this as well, 264 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: mentioned that yes, here, we've started eighting one a lot, 265 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: we've started eating two a lot. But there's teams in 266 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: the National Football League that have to start three and three. 267 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: Al Lazart said, do you look at the Rams last 268 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: year starting three and three before ultimately getting their stuff 269 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: together and making the run. David Bactieri played on a 270 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: one win Colorado team. Uh, Mercedes Lewis did it for 271 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: years with the Jacksonville Jaguars and then trying to find 272 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: themselves and and win football games. It's not easy to 273 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: win in this league, and that's why Matt Lafleur has 274 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: said for three and a half years not to take 275 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: that for granted. The challenge for Green Bay is because 276 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: they have faced adversity in the regular season before. As 277 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: you outlined, is they're having to do it in the 278 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: first and second quarter of the season. It's early. You 279 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: don't have a bunch of pelts on the wall already. 280 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: You don't have the confidence built up that, oh, we've 281 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: beaten six or seven teams already, will rally, we'll get 282 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: we'll get this one back. The key is, though, understanding 283 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: that Packers could win eleventh straight and finished fourteen and 284 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: three on the season, they could lose eleven straight and 285 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: finish thirteen and three and fourteen on the season. Your 286 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: season is what you make it at this point, it 287 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what's happened. Every single week is a battle 288 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: for that w The Jets won it last week, the 289 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: Giants came back and took it the week before. The 290 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders are a team now with Taylor Heineke, and 291 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this on Thursday. They're going to be 292 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: hungry to try turning around their fortunes now that Brian 293 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Robinson's back, now that they have some more of their 294 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: pieces back. The Green Bay Packers have to go to 295 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: FedEx Field on Sunday with a mindset in iron clad 296 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: will that this is going to be our statement game, 297 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: not a must win game. I will never say there's 298 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: a must win game before December, but they need to 299 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: make a stay eatement here that we are much better 300 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: than the three and three record that we currently It 301 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: says we are, Yeah, there's no question about it, and 302 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: it's the It's the first of three straight road games 303 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: as well. Before the Packers um do get back home. 304 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: A little bit of sponsored business here. 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No. Three and three 313 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: is not where the Packers want to be four and two. 314 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: If they had taken care of business at home against 315 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: the Jets, would have certainly felt a lot better. But 316 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: two of the four divisions in the NFC, three and 317 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: three is in first place. So because of that, there 318 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: are actually only four teams in the NFC that are 319 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: better than three and three. Three of them are in 320 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: the NFC East, with the Eagles at six and oh, 321 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: the Giants at five and one, and the Cowboys at 322 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: four and two, and then obviously the Minnesota Vikings on 323 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: top of the NFC North at five and one. The 324 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Packers now two games back, two games back in the 325 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: division six games into the season. Um certainly the biggest, 326 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: the biggest division deficit the Packers have faced in the 327 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: in the Matt Lafleur era. But as you said, eleven 328 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: games to go, the season is just you know, even 329 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: getting close to to the midpoint here. But um, as 330 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said after the loss in London to the Giants, 331 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: there's you know, there there are games games that there's 332 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: only so many you can let get away, right And 333 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: now that the Packers are three and three, heading on 334 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: a stretch of three consecutive road game games, they've kind of, 335 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, they've kind of run out of those ones 336 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: that you let get away because because otherwise Minnesota, you know, 337 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: you're going to be chasing them for a while. Here 338 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: now here, here's again something that's going to be kind 339 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: of a I don't want to say frustrating win, but 340 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use the effort again. Frustrating is. And it's 341 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: the reason why you can never look at a schedule 342 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: in April or June and say, well, these are the wins, 343 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: these are the losses and figure it out from their 344 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay right now behind. I think just Detroit in 345 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: terms of the strength of schedule, in terms of the 346 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: toughest competition they face, based on the wins and losses. 347 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: Packers have lost now to basically three winning clubs, a 348 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: four win team, and to five win teams. That's the fact. 349 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: But in order to make a stance that you are 350 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: a playoff team, you're a division champion caliber team, you 351 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: have to win those games. You have to be able 352 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: to defend lambeau Field, you have to be able to 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: go into other teams field like they did against Tampa 354 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: and show that we're not going to be pushed around. 355 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: The challenge for them now is they're going to take 356 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: on a washing team that has basically no expectations. When 357 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: you talk about all these teams and how tight things are, 358 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: it's not the case right now with the Commanders. I 359 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: think everybody and their mother is leaving the Commanders for 360 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: dead at this point. That's a tough, dangerous opponent to face. 361 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: We've seen before how that can go. When you're facing 362 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: a team that has literally nothing to lose and you 363 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: have a head coach that's wanting to prove that you know, 364 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: this is still the show that I'm running, this is 365 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: the program we're building, and we can be better. So 366 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: that's where the danger comes in this weekend. There is 367 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with losing to the Jets. I think the 368 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: Jets are going to be a good team. There's nothing 369 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: wrong with what Brian Dabble is doing in with the 370 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: New York Giants. You give them his coaching staff, Daniel 371 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Jones credit for coming back see Kwon Barkley. I think 372 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: right now, as it stands, as an m v P 373 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: type candidate. All that being said, you're three and three still, 374 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: and now you go up against the Washington Commanders, then 375 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: you have to travel the Buffalo, then you have to 376 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: go against the Detroit Lions, who have one of the 377 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: top highest scoring offenses in the league. You can't worry 378 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: about those next two games yet. But the sense of 379 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: urgency that has to accompany this team right now, it's 380 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: it's critical because this is because you're still seven weeks 381 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: away from a bye. You have to be able to perform. Yeah, 382 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: and it was interesting. It was interesting choice of words 383 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 1: by Matt Lafleur after the game on Sunday because he 384 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: didn't just say that we need to improve, which is 385 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: the obvious. It's that the Packers need to have a 386 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: sense of urgency to improve there, and and that that 387 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: qualifier there is important because everybody who takes the practice 388 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: field on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday this week. They know that 389 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: that the team needs to improve, that things need to 390 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: get better. But are you going to take the practice 391 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: field just saying Okay, we're gonna work on getting better, 392 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: or take the practice field with a sense of urgency 393 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: that it's like, hey, we've only got a couple of 394 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: days to get something straightened out and and you know, 395 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: improve ourselves to the point where we can go on 396 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: the road and win a football game. This is and 397 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: and I said this in in the Monday Insider. I 398 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: think I said it in Monday's Insider inbox. Maybe I didn't. 399 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: I don't know it was in my head if I 400 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: didn't actually write it. This feels like this is the 401 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of week you mentioned the Commanders and Carson Wentz 402 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: is injured and Taylor Heineke is going to take over 403 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: at quarterback and they're getting Um Robinson back and and 404 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But this just this feels 405 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: like a week where this week is absolutely nothing, zero 406 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: zilt to do with the Washington Commanders. This week is 407 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: everything to do with what the Green Bay Packers are 408 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: going to do on that practice field to get themselves 409 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: playing better regardless of what they see on film from 410 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: Washington or what they have to prepare for specifically. In 411 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: that way, this week is nine about the about the 412 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers getting themselves in better shape to go 413 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: win football games. That's that, That's what it feels like 414 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: to me. And I'm gonna bleed this into our little 415 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: discussion about the weekend games, because this is why it's 416 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: important to realize where you are and where you want 417 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: to go. Mike, just take this into a conference second. 418 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Four weeks ago, Indianapolis Colts completely left for dead. They 419 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: won on Sunday thirty to twenty seven over the Jacksonville Jaguars. 420 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: There now three two and one Matt Ryan, everybody was 421 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: saying was past it. Matt Ryan up for the FedEx 422 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: Air Player of the Week this week with how I performed. 423 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers disappointed to fall to the New 424 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: York Giants. The same thing happened to the Baltimore Ravens, 425 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: who have huge aspirations for this season. You look at 426 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Everybody expected them to roll the 427 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: football out on the field on Sunday at Hinz Field 428 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: or whatever it's called now. The Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin 429 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: reminded everybody, Hey, I can coach the ball. We've got 430 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: some player here's that can win a football game, and 431 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: they took care of business. You have so many teams 432 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: right now that are at this gut check moment in 433 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: the season can go one of two directions. It is 434 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: solely up to that team how they want to respond, 435 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: how they want to perform. Again, it starts with Washington, 436 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: but it's also a mindset that has to build up win, 437 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: lose or tie on Sunday, that urgency to improve in 438 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: that reflection of we need to be legitimately one week 439 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: better than we were before. Because this still in a 440 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: lot of ways, is a young football team. For the Packers, 441 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: they're asking guys like kway Walker and Eric Stokes and 442 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: Romeo Doabs to perform at an elite level right off 443 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: the bat. Those guys need to be confident, they need 444 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: to take that next step because in November, December, January, 445 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: those are the players you're counting on to mount a 446 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: playoff push. Yeah. Well, looking quickly back at Week six 447 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL, what game did you feel was the 448 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: most significant result? Uh? Philadelphia? Just because I thought now again, 449 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: I know some people have really crashed on the Eagles 450 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: a little bit for not dominating and just throwing out 451 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: the opponent. But to me, the Eagles remind me a 452 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: lot of those two thousand twelve type packer teams where 453 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe gets a little close for comfort at certain intervals. 454 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is they are so talented, 455 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: they are so multiple, and you can tell how much 456 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: they believe in their head coach in the direction that 457 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: they're traveling. I said it three weeks ago. I mean, 458 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: they are an exciting football team Dallas. It's a tough 459 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: one because you still are not at full straight. Yeah 460 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: you don't. You're They're they're potentially getting Dak Prescott back 461 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: at quarterback this week. I mean the fact that I 462 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: know there are no moral victories in the NFL, but 463 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: the fact that they came back from twenty to nothing 464 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: on the road in prime time at Philadelphia with a 465 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: backup quarterback in Cooper Russian, and they got that game 466 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: to seventeen in the fourth quarter. That tells you something 467 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: about what's going on in Dallas as well. Even though 468 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: they took their second loss of the season, and for 469 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: as much as national media wants to crap on Mike. 470 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy builds cultures, he builds programs, and 471 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what Dallas really in a lot 472 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: of ways has lacked. They have as many resources as 473 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: any team in the National Football League, They've had good 474 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: coaches in the last few years, They've had some pretty 475 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: good players. How do you build a culture that makes 476 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: you stay together, stay con consolidated in your efforts to 477 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: be able to continue marching forward when you lose your 478 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: starting quarterback in Week one? So Hack goes off to Dallas. 479 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: I know for a lot of people, it's gonna be 480 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: Buffalo in Kansas City. For the Packers, you're obviously your 481 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: intentas are up with the Bills right now, and certainly 482 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: those again I said it before Mahomes in all and 483 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: those two are going to continue playing each other until 484 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: the end of time here. They're gonna be leading their 485 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: teams up against each other for a long long time. 486 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: But from my perspective, I just look at that that 487 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: in an NFC where everything is completely wide open right now, 488 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia being able to continue its march and stay undefeated 489 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: on the season, I thought was a statement making performance 490 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: in a division that is locked tight right now for 491 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: the for the leader. Yeah absolutely. I mean, as as 492 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: this NFC East unfolds, Philadelphia and Dallas are going to 493 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: play again. Philadelphia and the Giants six and o, five 494 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: and one. They've got two games against each other. They 495 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: haven't faced one another yet so UM and the and 496 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: the Giants and Cowboys have one more game left against 497 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: each other as well. They faced each other once um 498 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: so far this year. But with that we'll call it 499 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 500 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on 501 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you for 502 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.