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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, a blimp. We're not even in

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Speaker 1: the straged bear of normalcy. Hello, everyone, Welcome to a

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: with you. Steve. It's been a rough morning for me.

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Speaker 1: It's been I'm forlorn what happened. Jlo and a Rod

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Speaker 1: why does that have to be headline news? You gotta

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Speaker 1: It's a sad comment. We have more important things to

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Speaker 1: the NFL draft, Steve, which is now almost to the hour.

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Speaker 1: What are we six seven hours from exactly two weeks

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427
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Speaker 1: I think there's there's gonna be there's too many good

428
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Speaker 1: guys in this draft where and certainly we know this

429
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Speaker 1: as well, what the Bills think of him is going

430
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: to be different than what other teams true, So I

431
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have high value set on a guy

432
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Speaker 1: who does show up at thirty, and they're gonna say, perfect,

433
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: that's our guy. I don't know that it'll be linebacker

434
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: or corner, or defensive line or even offensive line. I'd

435
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: be surprised if it was one was not one of

436
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: those players defensive line, wide defensive line, corner, or offensive line.

437
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: I think those three positions that the general consensus for thirty.

438
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Ye surprised if it's not one of those. But I

439
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: know this, if the guy they pick at thirty is

440
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Speaker 1: if the need they do pick at thirty, I think

441
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: he's going to be valued at least by the team

442
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: as a top twenty guy. I think that's the value

443
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: they're going to see in him the athleticism, the size,

444
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: and the skill set. So essentially, what you're saying is

445
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Speaker 1: you think the Bills and what they look for is

446
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Speaker 1: going to produce a player for them at thirty. That's

447
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Speaker 1: it going to prove to be a great value, which

448
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Speaker 1: I guess you're also saying at the same time that

449
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Speaker 1: all the teams picking in front of them, not all

450
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: of those teams value the same things that the Bills do.

451
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: Despite the Bill's success in valuing the things that they do.

452
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: They might, but I think there's going to be enough

453
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: guys like that, okay, that they will still have their

454
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: guy at that spot. Yeah. Certainly. It's like every draft

455
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: brownie you get outside the top ten, it's like, Okay,

456
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: we would have liked to have had you know, ky, Yes,

457
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: but we're gonna take this guy instead, or we would

458
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: have liked to add. But I think there's enough guys

459
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: that the guy who does drop to them at thirty

460
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: is still going to be a guy they had a

461
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: much higher house. The only reason I worry about that

462
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: theory is almost every year you hear this, and we

463
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: have heard it again this year, and Daniel Jeremiah has

464
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: said as much from NFL Dot com and he also

465
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: does Chargers games, as we know. On the radio, he

466
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: said he essentially had twenty four players with first round grades.

467
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Speaker 1: And when I hear that, and I know the Bills

468
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Speaker 1: are picking at thirty, I kind of shudder a little

469
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: bit because I'm like, uh, are they going to really

470
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: be able to get good value at thirty If a

471
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: trained eye like Daniel Jeremiah says, I really only see

472
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Speaker 1: twenty four guys that I would really give first round

473
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Speaker 1: grades too, That's what worries me when I hear that

474
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Speaker 1: kind of talking. He's not the only one that has

475
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: said that, believe, Todd McShay has said as much, along

476
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Speaker 1: with some of the other draft nicks. And could you

477
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: could take their comments for their worth, but I think

478
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: more often than not, some of the guys with the

479
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: trained die for scouting and have done it before in

480
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: a career prior to being in the media, you know,

481
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: have some cred with that. And so I hear that

482
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: and I say, oh, is it gonna be harder for

483
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: the Bills to get the value that they want at thirty?

484
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: If that is truly the case? As you said that,

485
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: I was trying to think back and twenty four guys

486
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: out of you know, let me say this. I kind

487
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: of remember maybe it was even last year where the

488
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: number for guys, we have this many guys was even

489
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: lower than twenty four last year. Yeah, you know what

490
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's that way every year. That doesn't really

491
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: scare me. And I'm almost positive it was recently that

492
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: there was one of these draft classes coming out. I

493
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: was either last year the year before where that nobody

494
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: thought Epidesa was going to be there in the second round,

495
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: right the draft knicks were saying, you know, I think

496
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: there's this many and there was a smaller number than

497
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: even the one they're saying this year. So I'm like, ah,

498
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: I get it. But when you're start talking about, well,

499
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: he's not a first round town now a second, this

500
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: guy's more of a high second, you're you're starting to

501
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: split hairs a little bit. And we're getting into the

502
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: great unknown about what happens when these guys actually get drafted,

503
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: come in and cash a check and showing up and

504
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: show up to work. What's going to happen to them

505
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: when their life changes the way it's going to change

506
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: when they become an NFL player. Does it change for

507
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: the better or does it change for the worse. Yeah,

508
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: a lot of them, despite being richer, their life changes

509
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: for the worst. Some of them it changes for the

510
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: much better. They're they're on an upward trajectory and it

511
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: never stops. Those are the guys you're looking for, because

512
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you take those in the third round,

513
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: because if you take those in the third round, they

514
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: turn into Russell Wilson. You take those guys in the

515
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 1: sixth round, you take they turn into Tom Brady. You know.

516
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: You take those guys late in the draft and they

517
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: turn into like Jerry Rice. You know, those are the

518
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: guys Davis exactly. You start to become legendary because it's

519
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: not about the check and the showing up to work.

520
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: You show up to work anyway, right, you would show

521
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: up to work in any That's just the kind of guy,

522
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: your person you are. Gabriel Davis went out of his

523
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: house and ran routes after he got drafted. Man, he's

524
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: out there in his yard running routes after he got drafted.

525
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: That's just it's a way that's special. Man. Guys are

526
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: motivated by something other than something differently than other guys,

527
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: or they're wired a certain way they're wired, and they're

528
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: wired that way, so I'm I get it. There are

529
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: when you measure guys, you only measure the money outside.

530
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: You can't measure them on the inside, and the inside

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00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: is what makes legendary and truly great players. What is

532
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: an under the radar move for the Bills in this

533
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: year's draft? That is the question we are posing to

534
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: you on the Twitter poll, So be sure to get

535
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: your thoughts in either on Twitter at one Bills Live

536
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: or on the open phone lines that we have for

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00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: you right now. Eight three five fifty one eighty eight

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00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Something that really hasn't been

539
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: brought up. Give us a unique scenario that you could

540
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: see the Bills pulling off in this year's draft. Doesn't

541
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: have to just be in Round one, could be later

542
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: in the draft. We want to know your thoughts, so

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00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: give us a call eight oh three zero five fifty.

544
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: We'll take a break here, but when we come back,

545
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: we'll get some of your thoughts on the Tweetcheeta and

546
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: take your phone calls back in a flash. Here on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Collid to Health, It's Buffalo

548
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome Back, to one Bills Live, Chris Ground

549
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, talking about under the radar moves

550
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: the Bills might have in their back pocket for this

551
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: year's NFL Draft. We want you to put your creativity

552
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: hats on today and give us something you think the

553
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: Bills maybe be able to pull off in this year's

554
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: draft that maybe most are not expecting. And it doesn't

555
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: have to be tied to round one only. So give

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: us a call. Eight oh three oh five fifty one

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00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We're gonna go

558
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: to the phones now. No, we're not going to the phones.

559
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: What am I saying? We're going to the tweet sheet now,

560
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: which is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, which is,

561
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: as you know, the official equipment moving company of the

562
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And leading us off today is Nick who says,

563
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I feel like we should try to grab a good

564
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: safety in the middle rounds. I know, Hide and Poyer

565
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: safety seems like the least of our worries, but they

566
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: aren't exactly young, so it would be good to find

567
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: a replacement that can develop under them for a few

568
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: years before starting. That's been the plan with Jukwon Johnson,

569
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: a former sixth round draft choice. But they are a

570
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: little light at the safety position. You still have Siran

571
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: Neil on the roster, but what is he Is he

572
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: a safety? Is he a hybrid nickel? You know, he's

573
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: we know he's a gunner, but beyond that, his position

574
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: is kind of nondescript. And they did not bring back

575
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Dean Marlowe as they had on one year deals each

576
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: of the last two years. He's in Detroit now signing

577
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: there as a free eight, and so I think that's

578
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: very well in the realm of possibility on day three somewhere. Yeah,

579
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: there's no question with it. Got you know, the picks

580
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: that you think are going to be important, or the

581
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: top picks, because those guys are gonna have the ability

582
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: and the size and the skill set to kind of

583
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: jump in and help right away. The picks below that,

584
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Speaker 1: particularly the sixth and seventh round picks or picks in

585
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: fifth rounds two to a certain extent, or you're gonna

586
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: wait on those guys. They're gonna have to surprise you

587
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: a little bit to get on the field, or they're

588
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to turn into that stuff we were just

589
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: talking about in the last segment. Their personality has to

590
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: be such where they get into the NFL. And let's

591
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: face it, some guys get in the NFL and and

592
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: don't thrive, you know, they kind of it's a struggle

593
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: for them. They got to get acclimated and there, you know,

594
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: they never really kind of get it. Other guys get

595
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL and man, oh man, they hit the

596
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: ground run. They hit the ground run. It's like, Wow,

597
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: this is what I've been waiting for. You can get

598
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: guys like that in later rounds. Matt Milan is a

599
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: perfect example that he certainly the first half of his

600
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: rookie year, okay, they were feeling them out and stuff.

601
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: All of a sudden he's on the field and he's

602
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: doing it. Karen Johnson was a fourth round Taron Johnson's

603
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: a perfect examp. So they you'll find guys like that.

604
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: But what happens is it's not so much their physicality

605
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: that drew you to him. It was their their personality

606
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you kind of hit it big with them.

607
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: That's what you want to do, and I think getting

608
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: a gun And then, let's face it, when you get

609
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: in those later rounds, you can pick whoever you want

610
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: at whatever position. Yeah, so safety's perfect. And you know

611
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: when Jordan Poyer came out, when Micah Hyde came out,

612
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, I came I don't know what I think

613
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: was a sixth round pick. Hide was a fifth round pick.

614
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: That's it, man, that's you get those It's that game

615
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: is Hid's been to a Pro Bowl and Ployer should

616
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: have been to a Pro Bowl by now. Those guys

617
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: at that position in particular, that whole position, and you'll

618
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: say it from Hide and Poyer as well, it's played

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Speaker 1: from the neck up. That's a that is a neck

620
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: up position. And that's why fourth rounders, fifth rounds or

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00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: six rounders can turn into really great players because they

622
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: get a depth of knowledge, they're smart, and they're they're

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00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: drawn to it. They're most directly involved in trying to

624
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: cross up the quarterback. That's right. And I think it's

625
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: a great that's a great, great tweet from Nick because

626
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: he's right. That's a position in that position in particular

627
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: is and it's also one of those positions that is

628
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: vastly different from team to team in my opinion, eight

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00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: oh three h five fifty to get on board with us,

630
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: give us some under the radar move you think the

631
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: Bills could pull off in the twenty twenty one NFL

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00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: Draft anywhere in the draft, front to back. We don't care.

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00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: We'll take any and all creativity. On a day like today,

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00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: we go to Tim and north Tonawanda to let us

635
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: off on the phones. Tim, what do you have for us?

636
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. I think there's four guys

637
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: that could walk on the field this year. Jalen Phillips,

638
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: even Collins, Nagie Harris are three of them. You know,

639
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm turning, I'm drawing a blank out. Tevin Jenkins is

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Speaker 1: the fourth. Yeah, I think they may try to trade

641
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: one of them. Should be there around thirty. But I

642
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: think they may try to trade up in the second

643
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: because I think the picks aren't going to have it

644
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: as much value next year as they are this year.

645
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna have free agency going crazy next year with

646
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: the money that's going to be available. So I think

647
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: those guys are definitely in contention and they may trade

648
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: it up to try to get a second one like that.

649
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite among those four, Tim that

650
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned, I'm twisted between Tevin Jenkins and Avin Collins.

651
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: I think it's great. Yeah, I mean Jenkins. It's hard

652
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: not to love the demeanor with which he plays, and

653
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: we appreciate the call Tim thanks Tevin. Jenkins plays with

654
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: an edge and I don't know an offensive line coach

655
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't like a lineman who plays with an edge,

656
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: and Jenkins does that. He buries and finishes people on

657
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: every single play, sometimes after the whistle. What do coaches

658
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: always say? I love guys that play to the echo

659
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: of the whistle, not the whistle, the echo of the whistle.

660
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: He does that almost every snap. He needs a little

661
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: refinement in his past protection. Because they were a very

662
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: successful running team, even though they did throw it a lot.

663
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard was just churning up yards like crazy. I'd

664
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: be interested to know what Thurman thought of Cuba Chuba Hubbard. Man.

665
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: He was pretty good running back for them, and he's

666
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: in this year's draft class as well. But Jenkins is

667
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: a road greater, pretty pretty nimble feet, fine second level targets.

668
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: But they think he needs a little refinement in some

669
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: past protection things, you know, getting beat inside, things like that.

670
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: But he's gonna be a first round draft choice. I

671
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: think that's that much is known. And then for Zaven Collins.

672
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: The guy is an athletic anomaly. At six foot three,

673
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pounds, the guy runs like in

674
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: the low four sevens high four sixes, which for a

675
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: man that size is unusual. I watched some tape of him,

676
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: and I was telling Steve about this. He had a

677
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: ninety five yard interception return a man sixty three, two

678
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds with people with that much space

679
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: to chase after him. He's got no right going ninety

680
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: five yards for a touchdown, but he did it. And

681
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: that's not the only thing he does. Very instinctive player,

682
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: can rush off the edge as a stand up linebacker

683
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: pretty good in the short areas for coverage. He's gonna

684
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: be a first round draft choice as well. I don't know.

685
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he makes it to thirty quite frankly,

686
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: but the kid out of Tulsa is a pretty dang

687
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: good lineback. Cos he's six five two, you know, two sixty.

688
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: You know what he's like. He's just like Tremaine Tremaine. Yeah,

689
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: big Tremaine a little bit faster than him. Tremaine ran

690
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: four to five three. This kid ran right around four

691
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: to seven. But he's also carrying ten more pounds on

692
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: his frame, and he's put together. I mean, and he's

693
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: a very instinctive player, and he's played linebacker. Tremaine played

694
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: outside linebacker and was rushing the passer a lot at

695
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. There be less of a transition for Zaven Collins's.

696
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: It comes down to do you think Zaven Collins is

697
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get on the field for yet

698
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: linebacker with that high of a pick at thirty? And

699
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're not going to move away

700
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: from Tremaine. I mean they just or Milano or Milano um.

701
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if Zaven Collins at thirty is well

702
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: me he may be the best guy on the board left.

703
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: That's a tough decision. Yeah, what do you do there?

704
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: Because you know you want to use your first round

705
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: pick on someone that can help you right away. This

706
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: guy might be talented enough to help you right away,

707
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: but you got two really talented guys in front of you.

708
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: Gonna do with the guys in front of him, you know,

709
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do? Do you get through

710
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: this season led Zaven Collins jest State and then trade

711
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds. I don't know. I don't know that you're

712
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: doing right by your twenty twenty one team right by

713
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: by doing that. But he's pretty damn good. He's good. Yeah,

714
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean he's all of that. But Jenkins is you know,

715
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: solid player too. Jalen Phillips, the pass rusher from Miami.

716
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: You can never have too many good offensive lineman. That guy,

717
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty good rusher off the edge. He's a

718
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a unicorn type in terms of body.

719
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: Tie's this which Jaylen Phillips right. He I might be

720
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: wrong with that assessment, but he he reminds me of

721
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor when I watched him come off the edge.

722
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: He's got that same Jason Taylor was was he was

723
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: a line tall and way taller, and he's yeah, he's

724
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: a little weight, he's little. Jayalen Phillips is six five man, yeah,

725
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: but Jason Taylor was six to seven and he looked

726
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: at and he was power forward kind of Phillips. Jaylen

727
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: Phillips looks thick. Particularly, what I noticed about Jayalen Phillips

728
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: is he looks thick from the waist down. He got

729
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: big thighs and a big power. He's two seventy. I

730
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: mean Jason Taylor came into the league at two forty five, right,

731
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: that's why. And Taylor was two inches taller. So the weight,

732
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: ken of style and the way they used their arms

733
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: distributed when they come off the ball, they do look alike,

734
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: but they're built differently. Jalen Phillips has really kind of

735
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: elevated here of late because they had a pro day

736
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: and he was laid it up and you know this,

737
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: that's one of those pro days where the guys are

738
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: the scouts from one team are looking and they're looking.

739
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: They're out of the corner, right, They're looking at the

740
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: other scouts that number. Yeah, do you have four six five?

741
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: Did you You're pointing at their watch looking at them

742
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: going did you know? And uh, yeah, he was a

743
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: surprise and I the production is there at the at

744
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: the level he is. He's got some questions about, you know,

745
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: why he left UCLA. What happened there? You know, is

746
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: it was it him? Was it the situation? Do you

747
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: just want to play more? Was it whatever? He's got

748
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: to answer those questions. Four five seven? Sorry, I sure changed?

749
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, he yeah, there isn't. I don't know, I

750
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: seriously and I'm not This is not hyperbole. I don't

751
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: know that there's a guy in this draft class that,

752
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: at this point in my life I could outrun including

753
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: the six five three hundred two run the lineman, I

754
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: don't think. So, come on, you gotta you gotta sub

755
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: five flat in you. Here's what would happen because I'm Steve, Yeah,

756
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: thirty years ago, well maybe forty years ago. But here's

757
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: the thing. Those guys are. They move, they've got speed,

758
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: they're lining on their feet, and me, I don't think

759
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: I could finish the forty because if I'm really racing somebody,

760
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna pop. Something would pop. I would I would

761
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: not finish. So some would give out, right, So I'm

762
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: just saying all of them. But that's it is. Uh Yeah,

763
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, if he's on the board, that might be.

764
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: That might be the guy I'm looking at. If he's

765
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: on the board, I don't think he'll make it. That's

766
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna be the most confounding part of the draft. We're

767
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, we gotta get four. You know,

768
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna be sitting there biting our nails at night.

769
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna be like break time for us when we

770
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: come back. More of your comments on the tweet sheet,

771
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: and don't forget coming up just after the top of

772
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: the hour, NFL Network Draft analyst Bucky Brooks. You don't

773
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: want to miss it. We'll be back. Welcome back to

774
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and

775
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: we do have some news concerning the Bill's roster. According

776
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: to a report from Mike Varrell on Twitter, who covers

777
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: uh Washington Huskies football. He's a reporter for the Seattle

778
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: Times out there and he just retweeted an Instagram post

779
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: by Bill's offensive tackle Trey Adams, who was on the

780
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: practice squad last Year's signed by the team as an

781
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie, and he retweeted Trey adams Instagram post where

782
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: he essentially is announcing his retirement from football. The post

783
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: reads as follows, thank you football for everything. I've put

784
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: much thought into this decision. It's time for me to

785
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: retire from the game that's given me so much. He

786
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: then goes on to thank a bunch of people as

787
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: well as the Bills for believing in him, and you know,

788
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: thanking teammates and such. But a guy who had a

789
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: number of injuries in college, which kind of derailed what

790
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: looked like a promising career. Came back his senior season

791
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: and played after I think a back injury and a

792
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: knee surgery was good enough to land on the practice

793
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: squad of the Bills last year. Was resigned as a

794
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: future free agent. Looks like he is going to retire

795
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: if this Instagram post pans out. Nothing from the team

796
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: has been announced on that front, but yeah, Adams here,

797
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: at least according to Mike Varrell, who covers the Washington

798
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: Huskies college football team, Trey Adams saying he's going to

799
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: retire from the game. So there's that. I don't know

800
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: that that tremendously increases the need to maybe add a

801
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: swing tackle. As we mentioned earlier on the show, the

802
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: Bills did sign Jamil Douglas as a free agent who

803
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: has played the swing tackle position in the league before,

804
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: so he is on the roster as well. But interesting

805
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: development there as we sit two weeks away from the

806
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Yeah, and I yeah, it's interesting, and I

807
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's that's a tough decision for a young kid,

808
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: and I consider Trey Adams a young guys in the

809
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: early twenties to move on with his life. Good, you know,

810
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: good for him. I think it. I think he's wise

811
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: enough to realize that if you're gonna do, if you

812
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: are going to play this game that we talk about

813
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: every day, boy boy, you gotta be all in. And

814
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: if you're not, he's making the right decision, no question

815
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: about it. And plus, you know, he's got a long

816
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: future ahead of him, and if and football is only

817
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: going to be a part of it, if he had

818
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: a nice, long career in football, And the Bills are

819
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: probably happy that this decision was made prior to the

820
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: draft so that they can do what they need to

821
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: do going forward. We have to take a break, but

822
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: when we come back, it's NFL Network draft analysts Bucky

823
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: Brooks not only going to break down the best picks

824
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: he thinks for the Bills, but also in the AFC East,

825
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: knowing the Dolphins the Jets each have two first round

826
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: selections which will come off the board before the Bills

827
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: are even on the clock. We'll have all that for

828
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: you next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid

829
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Had a Steve Tester

830
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: who has been all over the field kind of unique.

831
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

832
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated here

833
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: of normalcy here, second hour of the show here on

834
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: a Thursday, wall to wall draft is what we're discussing,

835
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: and it's time to bring in one of the guys

836
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: who main focus is the draft pretty much three hundred

837
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: and sixty five days a year. When you think about it,

838
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: it is NFL Network Draft and NFL analyst Bucky Brooks

839
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: joining us on the program here obviously co host have

840
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: moved the Sticks podcast with his good friend Daniel Jeremiah. Bucky,

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00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: how are you doing, man, It's good to have you

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00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: with us, So glad to be on. Good to see

843
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah. So, look, we want to jump right

844
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: into this. I mean, we were looking at some of

845
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: your most recent mocks and I know you've got Elijah

846
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Molden going to the Bills as one of the options there,

847
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: and you know, we were talking about him on the

848
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: show yesterday, Bucky, because you look at the Bills and

849
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: they played ninety percent of their defensive snaps in Nickel

850
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: last Ye're far and away the highest percentage of any

851
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: team in the league. And Molden with his compact frame,

852
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: looks like the kind of guy that could almost be

853
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: sturdy enough to play. And I know he's undersized for

854
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: a hybrid linebacker position, but I think he's a guy

855
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: that can kind of give you coverage on a slot

856
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: but can also double as you know, that hybrid linebacker

857
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: type in a nickel front like the Bills play so often.

858
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Yeah, I don't know

859
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: if he's quite big enough to be like that, that

860
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: classic like nickel backer or that guy. But I do

861
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: believe he is the best nickel defender in the draft.

862
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: And I think he comes with outstanding pettigree because his dad,

863
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: Alice Moten, played in the league for a long time.

864
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: When you look at Elijah, Elijah plays like he's a

865
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: teen year VET at the position. He understands where he's

866
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: supposed to fit. He plays a great instinct and awareness.

867
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: He's toughed, he's physical, he brings a lot of tools

868
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: to the table. And the thing about that position, a

869
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: lot of times it's been viewed as a throwaway position

870
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: in the past, but I think you have seen, as

871
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: you attested to, ninety percent of the defensive snaps the

872
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Bills have played on defense, have been in nickel. The

873
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: nickel position is another starter. You need to have someone

874
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: who has a high degree of skills to be able

875
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: to play in function in today's game, when you're seeing

876
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: so many teams trying to create mismatches not only with

877
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: receivers but with the tight ends as well. When you

878
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: see these prospects at the top of the draft, and

879
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: I know it's difficult when you start ranking players from

880
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: different positions and how good a pro they're going to be.

881
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you do is you know,

882
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: everybody looks at these players and this guy's a best player,

883
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: this guy's a different play even though they play different positions.

884
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: That's when it becomes difficult to rank them. But a

885
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: lot of people have a player ranked at the very

886
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: top of this drafting Kyle Pitts as the tight end

887
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: who's gonna be a generational kind of player. And I

888
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: poop poop poo this a lot, Bucky. I gotta be

889
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: honest with you, because I've seen great tight ends and

890
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: athletic tight ends come out before. What do you think

891
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: about the top of this draft of the guys that

892
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: are outside the quarterback position. Yeah, Caliphis is really talented

893
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: and Steve, I'm with you and Dad like it was

894
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: tough for me because I wrote about it last week

895
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: in the notebook about him arguably being the best player

896
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: in the draft. When you look at the skill set,

897
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: one you're talking about someone as a six five six six,

898
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five, two hundred and fifty pounds

899
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: running times in the four fours. But then when you

900
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: watch the skill set, he's basically a jumble wide receiver

901
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: playing on the perimeter, tremendous stop start quickness, does a

902
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: great job of creating separation against dB safeties, linebackers. So

903
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: he's a really really unique weapon. And when he catches

904
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: the ball and he makes plays down in the red zone,

905
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: he puts a lot of stress on defensive coordinators because

906
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: how do you treat him when he's on the field.

907
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: Do you treat him as a wild or do you

908
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: treat him as a tight end? Who do you want

909
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: to put in the game? Nicol dime Bass makes it

910
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: really really complex. But when you think about the guys

911
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: who have dominated position of late Travis Kelcey, Darren Waller,

912
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: those guys were laid round picks. George Kittle later round pick,

913
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: fifth round or whatever. And so as much as I

914
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: love him, as much as we've celebrated him as being

915
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of a gold jacket type in terms of a

916
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: generational talent, Yeah, we'll see, because the last times that

917
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: we've seen tied End taken in the top ten, they

918
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: certainly have n't played to expectation. We'll see if he

919
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: goes to a place that fits what he can do. Yeah,

920
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: And with that in mind, Bucky, for the first time

921
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: in a long time, the Bills are picking after every

922
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: one of their division rivals, and the Dolphins and the Jets,

923
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: as you know, have two picks before the Bills are

924
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: even on the clock in the first round, two pigs each.

925
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: And as we know, New England picks at fifteen at

926
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: least right now. So with that in mind, I mean,

927
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at six could be in play for somebody

928
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: like Pitts. But how do you see the Dolphins and

929
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: the Jets utilizing their first round draft selections this year

930
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: to try to close the gap on the Bills, who

931
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: are the defending division champs. Well, I think it'd be

932
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: very very similar to how the Bills kind of put

933
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: themselves in a position to pick thirty. The Bills identify

934
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: their quarterback. They got Josh Allen, and in the next

935
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: two years they made sure that they built the offense

936
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: around him and not necessarily making Josh more important than

937
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the team. But it's very clear in

938
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: apparent that they wanted to upgrade the weapons on offense.

939
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: They help the quarterback play at a higher level. And

940
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: so I would expect the Jets want to identify their quarterback.

941
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: We assume it's going to be Zach Wilson, and then

942
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: two to put weapons around him to allow him to

943
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: play at a higher level. The Miami Dolphins took their

944
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: quarterback last year with two A tons about Loyd. This

945
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: year is about adding weapons around him to see if

946
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: they can get them to play up to expectation. We

947
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: need to Buffalo Bills, and you're sitting at thirty. And

948
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: part of the reason you're sitting at thirties because you

949
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: want division. You won games and you advanced in the playoffs.

950
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: That's part of the deal. And so now is how

951
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: can you stay one step ahead of the curve? And

952
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: so that is maybe a little different mindset and mentality,

953
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: but when you win, that's kind of what comes along

954
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: with it. How do you stay ahead of the rivals

955
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: while picking at the bottom of the round each and

956
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: every round? And so in that case, how is it

957
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: slightly different for New England who looks like they have

958
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 1: Cam Newton on board at the very least to serve

959
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: as a bridge quarterback, perhaps, but they only have one

960
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: first round pick. They don't have multiple picks in a

961
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: round until round four. How is the task different for

962
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: New England maybe as compared to Miami and the Jets

963
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: in terms of catching back up with Buffalo. Well, I mean,

964
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: I think the Pages are a team that this offseason

965
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: they made a flurry of moves to really fix the

966
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: defense by bringing in veterans. I have a person believe

967
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is better with veterans than younger players because

968
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: it allows him to be multiple on defense and do

969
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: some of these snowflake game plans that they like to

970
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: utilize offensively. They have to figure out who they are

971
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: from an identity standpoint. Cam Newton came in, gave them

972
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: some good work early, had the COVID situation didn't quite

973
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: play the same, but he still scored twelve rushing touchdowns.

974
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: And so if you're Josh McDaniels and Bill Belichick. How

975
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: do you take advantage of Cam Newton's skills in year two?

976
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: But the full offseason and those things, more weapons are

977
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: needed on the outside. Jeweling element retires, they have Nelson Aguilar,

978
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: they bring over Kendrick Borne, but they still need another piece.

979
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: I would say offensively because the two tight ends that

980
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: they signed the created scene Hunter Henry and John Smith.

981
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: They're problematic for opponents, and so I would expect this

982
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: to be a team that is a thorn in the

983
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: side of the Buffalo Bills. I think Buffalo overtook the division.

984
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: They will have to fend off the Patriots and the

985
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: rest of it to retain their hold on the crown.

986
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I like having you on the show, BUCkies,

987
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: because you agree with me on so many fronts. I'm

988
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: gonna say this your mock draft. You've got mac Jones

989
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: fallen all the way down to the Buccaneers at thirty two,

990
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: and we've said this all along. A lot was made

991
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: of the trade up by the forty nine ers to

992
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: get to number three, and there was a lot of

993
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: smoking mirrors about them taking mac Jones, being interested in

994
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: mac Jones. They did it for a quarterback, no question

995
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: about it. But I have lounged from the day one.

996
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: I said, there's no way they're moving up to take

997
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback who doesn't check a lot of physical boxes.

998
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: It's got to be fields or trade lance at number three.

999
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: And you've got, you know how far down And if

1000
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: it was a perfect world, how far down the board

1001
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: would Mac Jones fall in this draft if it was

1002
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: strictly a draft on physical traits? I mean, if it's

1003
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: trictly on physical trades, like he's not in the same

1004
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: category as the top four Trevor Lawrence, Jack Wilson, Trey

1005
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: Lance In justin fields and whatever order. They all have

1006
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: like superpowers. As I always say, like you guys, sit

1007
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: and watch it every Sunday with Josh Allen. Josh Allen's

1008
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: physical ability is a combination of athleticism and arm talent.

1009
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: He allows you to expand your playbook. He allows the

1010
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: play caller to get away with some erroneous play calls

1011
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: because he can make them right and at a time

1012
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: in this game where the pass rushers are they're like

1013
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: superheroes leaping tall buildings. In the single bottle, you have

1014
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: to have someone that can escape and create and extend

1015
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: plays and offer these second reaction plays, And with mac Jones,

1016
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: he doesn't offer that, and so it just becomes increasingly

1017
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: tougher to play with those kinds of guys at the position.

1018
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that he can't be a first rounder.

1019
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: It just means that if he is your first round pick,

1020
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: if he's your franchise quarterback man, the margin for Erra

1021
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: at the rest of the position and the play calling

1022
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: is so slim that you have to be dialed in

1023
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: and on your game each and every week. I know,

1024
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, you put out you know

1025
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: your top five at position on nfl dot Com, and

1026
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: I immediately gravitated to the edge defender group because where

1027
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: the Bills pick at thirty, knowing there aren't truly elite

1028
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: top ten pass rushers in this class, It's very interesting

1029
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: to me how those guys are going to fall, whether

1030
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: they're going to all come off the board in a jumble.

1031
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure they differ in terms of grade from team

1032
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: to team and who likes who better. But did Jalen Phillips,

1033
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: who you have as your number one guy? At least

1034
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: you did two weeks ago. I don't know if that's changed,

1035
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: But after his pro day, did he solidify himself at

1036
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: the top of that top tier? You know? I think

1037
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: on the field he would solidify himself as one of

1038
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: those guys because this was a guy you have to remember,

1039
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 1: he was Todd Randon recruit, maybe number one recruit coming

1040
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: out of high school. He has always been lauded for

1041
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: his athleticism in those things. When you watch him in Miami,

1042
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: what he's become is really a technician. His hand skills,

1043
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: his combination of understanding which moves are necessary to defeat

1044
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: certain block. He has it. And then when he comes

1045
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: up on his pro day, it just kind of confirms

1046
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: what you thought about him as an athlete. And as

1047
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: rather as you get a high end athlete who's also

1048
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: a very refined technician, that's it. He has some injury

1049
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: issues in the past. He has some concussions and some

1050
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: things that he didn't deal with when he was at UCLA,

1051
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: and there's some people that will just kind of wonder

1052
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: whether that fit when it comes to the risk rewards scenario.

1053
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: But this is an outstanding player. I mean, he is

1054
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: a He is a dynamite player as an as defendant,

1055
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: Bucky one last one for me. You know, so much

1056
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: about this draft is set up in the free agent

1057
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: process running up to it, we saw and we knew

1058
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: that there was a bunch of teams, Chicago, Carolina that

1059
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: we're in the market for a quarterback like Jacksonville is

1060
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 1: going to get in and the Jets of course now

1061
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: and the only reason the Jets are is because they

1062
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: traded Darnald to Carolina. What do you think Carolina is

1063
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: going to do offensively or how do you think Sam

1064
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: Darneld will look in Carolina with Matt Rule as his

1065
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: head coach in that offense. You know, I would expect

1066
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: now that Carolina secured the quarterback, I would expect them

1067
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: to turn to attention to maybe getting the offensive tackle,

1068
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: fixing the offensive line, making sure that Okay, now that

1069
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: you have him, let's let's treat this like a game

1070
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: of chess. Let's make sure we protect the king. Let's

1071
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: make sure that he is able to throw comfortably from

1072
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: the pocket and not necessarily have to deal with the

1073
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: dress and the pressure that he had to deal with

1074
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: when he was with the Jets. For Sam Donald, from

1075
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: a personal standpoint, you know, it's it's a low risk

1076
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: proposition for the Carolina Panthers because the money has pretty

1077
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: much been paid out by the Jets. Yes, they can

1078
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: pick up the fifth year option, but if you do

1079
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: the math, that equates to two years eleven million dollars

1080
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: per year. That's not significant money for a starting quarterback,

1081
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: regardless of how well he plays and does that. What

1082
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: I am interested to see is how is he going

1083
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: to fit in with this offense under Joe Brady. Can

1084
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: Joe Brady make it a quick rhythm offense and also

1085
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: mixes in some play action. Can they run the ball

1086
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: and take pressure off of him? He has not been

1087
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: great when having a lot on him. I do believe

1088
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: that his best football could be ahead of him, though

1089
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: Bucky has always we thank you for the insight. We

1090
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: know you pound this out three hundred and sixty five

1091
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: days a year, so we're more than happy to tap

1092
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: into the knowledge. Thanks for giving it to us. Hey,

1093
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me on. Guy. All right,

1094
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: that's Bucky Brooks from NFL dot Com and NFL Network.

1095
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: He's the draft analyst out there with Daniel Jeremiah. Those

1096
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: guys just pounding the tape week in and week out.

1097
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: I tell you, man, it's no, it's no mistake that

1098
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: Bucky's got glasses. I mean, I don't know how you

1099
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: maintain your eyesight staring at a screen that long. Yeah,

1100
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: he's back and forth, back and forth. Yeah he was.

1101
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: He was a second round pick for the Bills. Yeah,

1102
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: I remember when I was playing, and uh, a really

1103
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: good player and smart as you can tell. I mean,

1104
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: the guy is on it. So he's created a really

1105
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: nice career for himself, an NFL, NFL dot Com, a

1106
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: NFL network because he's he's on this. He evaluates his time.

1107
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: He's got a really good, no nonsense approach. Plus he

1108
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: has the abilities we've talked to him now to contextualize

1109
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: all his evaluation about how and why which team. And

1110
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: I was really interested in fact that he had Mac

1111
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: Jones down at thirty two to the Bucks. Well, he

1112
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: seems to be in our camp on that. Absolutely. That's

1113
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: why I love having a guy on it, because he

1114
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: agrees with us, right chuckle. That makes me feel good

1115
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: when I'm winning somebody, you know, somebody's who I respect.

1116
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: As much as Bucky agrees with me, or at least

1117
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: I agree with him, I guess I'll be shocked. I

1118
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: mean if San Francisco doesn't take Fields or Lance, I'll

1119
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: be shocked. I'll be shocked if they take the only

1120
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: other thing I could see him doing his Pitts. But

1121
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: it's gotta be quarterback. You don't move up there to

1122
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: let's I mean, the only other option that I could

1123
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: see them doing is Kyle Pitts. And how about that, Steve,

1124
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: could you imagine Kyle Pitts and George Kittle, Deebo, Samuel

1125
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: and Brandon I yuk, good god man, Jimmy Garoppolo thought

1126
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: would be like a kid in the candy in there.

1127
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot in that statement. That's who I think

1128
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: it is. I think it is either Justin Fields or

1129
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, and it's if it's not either of those two,

1130
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: then it's Kyle Pitts. It has to be. It can't

1131
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: be Mac Jones, can it. It can't be. It is not.

1132
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: It cannot be. I would agree with you, and I'm

1133
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: not gonna but do you think of Kyle Pitts. Though

1134
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: it looks like I piqued your interest with it, I

1135
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: had not gone there because you don't jump up nine

1136
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: spots ten for anything other than a quarterback. And quite honestly,

1137
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: O j. Howard keeps coming to mind. He was he

1138
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: was the fifth pick. I want to see who's gonna be.

1139
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: This guy's a generational town. He's unbelieving. He can't get

1140
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: on the field. You can't even get on the field

1141
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: with a thirty year old thirty two year old, washed

1142
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: up gronk. Sorry, he was the nineteenth overall pick. I

1143
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: take that back. I mean he's just yeah. I mean,

1144
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, I have my doubts about that. I don't

1145
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 1: think it's pits either. I think those that's the only

1146
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: other guy I think you could justify there at three.

1147
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: Besides Lance and Fields, there's a lot in this in

1148
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: this conversation. You get guys with physical traits in the

1149
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: fifth and sixth round. They turned into George Kittle and

1150
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey or a third and fourth round for whatever

1151
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: Kelsey was. But they're just you know, they're they're okay

1152
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: athletes that so much of this game is played between

1153
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: your ears, and those guys get in there and they

1154
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: thrive in pro football. And they got a coach that

1155
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: says he can do that, let's use him here, let's

1156
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 1: see if we can do it. And then his game

1157
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: expands and he improves and all of a sudden, you

1158
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: get a guy like you picked as an afterthought on

1159
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: day two or day three, who is maybe is the

1160
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: best guy at his position in the entire NFL by

1161
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 1: a long shot. And then you get this other guy

1162
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: who is you know, blows his doors, could run circles around.

1163
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: The guy lifted. You know, he's just all got all

1164
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: the and he he can't get out of his own way,

1165
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: can't get on the field. See for me, I've always

1166
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: said it, you can't. You don't draft a great tight end.

1167
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: You either steal him or they come from somewhere. You

1168
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, they come out of nowhere.

1169
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates and yeah, all of these guys. Now Tony

1170
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: Gonzalez was a basketball player. Yeah so was Antonio Gates. Right,

1171
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: so those guys kind of like, I don't know if

1172
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: we should take him in their first round physicalities and

1173
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff, But you know, they played hoops. How

1174
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 1: good are they going to be? He found out Pete

1175
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: metz Lars was was a basketball player, National Champion basketball

1176
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: player in Division three or Division whatever Wabash was. You know,

1177
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: the hoops players seem to tend to be good tight

1178
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: end kind of guys because they have body guys out

1179
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: for rebounds and they can catch the ball. Then they're

1180
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: all tall, you know what I mean. So you know,

1181
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: and when it's funny because you know, get these guys.

1182
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: Pete metz Lars at the time his retirement, he played

1183
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: more games at tight end than anybody in history of

1184
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: the game. And he was six to eight and done

1185
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: Gan Dallas was six seven and he played you know,

1186
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: he played more years at tight end than Pete played game, right,

1187
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean he was there for like seventeen eighteen, nineteen years. Um,

1188
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: those guys. There's so much about tight end that's a mystery.

1189
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: Well right, and and that's another interesting discussion because let's

1190
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: not forget this as it pertains to the bills. You know,

1191
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about under the radar moves today. I think

1192
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: tight end is still on the list for Buffalo because

1193
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: if you just just by virtue of addition, by subtraction,

1194
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: you traded Lee Smith, you let Tyler Croft walk in

1195
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: free agency, he signs with the Jets, and you added

1196
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: Jacob Hollister. So you're still down a body there. Yeah,

1197
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: number one, And there are some intriguing guys in the

1198
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: second third you know, day two, maybe early day three.

1199
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, you've got the Friarmouth kid, and then you

1200
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: got the kid from Boston College Long who's kind of

1201
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: a throwback Hunter Long and even Tommy Tremble is a

1202
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,439
Speaker 1: guy that can do some things in the passing game,

1203
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: who might be there late on day two. So I

1204
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: think it under the radar priority for the Bills could

1205
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: be tight end on day two somewhere. Yeah, that's interesting.

1206
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: You know, end of day two, you're picking ninety three,

1207
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: Tommy Trembles still on the board, right, go grab him. Yeah,

1208
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: that's it's a good point. I will say this though,

1209
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: and I've said it on the show. I think and

1210
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep talking about it because then it,

1211
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, it starts to defeat. It becomes ironic that

1212
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: it defeats itself because I mentioned you don't take the

1213
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: other way speaking it into existence. Yeah, I think that

1214
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't I know, I no, no, I I think

1215
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox is gonna be a different guy this year. Yeah,

1216
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean we kind of saw signs of him coming

1217
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: on in the second half of the year. Had that

1218
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: great touchdown against Indie on a broken play you know

1219
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: where Josh shot. Don't know if it was broken or

1220
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: whether that was called shot. Puts it into the end zone.

1221
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: He come. He had that stretch where he kept catching touchdowns.

1222
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: He had a couple of fantastic catches in the New

1223
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: England game in New England when they thumped him, the

1224
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: one on the sideline that made one Bill Belichick throw

1225
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: the phone, and he got one down the middle. He

1226
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: got one down the middle in that game as well,

1227
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: that was tipped early. Yeah, and he still caught it.

1228
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: That he's every once in a while he does stuff

1229
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: that is you know, that gives you a sense that

1230
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: he's going to do it. And then he was injured

1231
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: this year, had a calf muscle injury, and then he

1232
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: also remember had COVID and you know he's just and

1233
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: his first year, which I see, I kind of got

1234
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: away from it. He had a really bad case of

1235
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: the drops his first year. Second year not so much,

1236
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: although maybe he had one drop or a couple of drops.

1237
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it just didn't It wasn't. It

1238
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: didn't define his number two season. The injury and the

1239
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: COVID kind of defined his last season and least right

1240
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: And I'll say this though, even last year he was

1241
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: a really effective red zone target. I love that about him.

1242
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: So I think this year, if he can stay on

1243
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: the field consistently and get a full offseason under him

1244
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: and come back, I just think he's got a chance

1245
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: to bust out. I really do. I do too. But

1246
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't preclude you from making tight end to consideration,

1247
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: if not for anything else, just from a numbers standpoint,

1248
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: and knowing that Knox has dealt with some injuries here

1249
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: and there in each of his first two seasons. Um,

1250
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about availability all the time. You

1251
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a position where, if God forbid,

1252
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: you lose Knox for three or four weeks, you're up

1253
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: a creek, right, Yeah, I get it there, You're gonna

1254
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: have to have another another body there. Not only do

1255
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: the either of the body, They're gonna have to need

1256
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: another body who's good enough to be active on game day. Yeah.

1257
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you have Tommy Sweeney and you have Jacob Hollister.

1258
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: Your hollis your you would say, is probably your second

1259
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: tight end right now behind right now, and Sweeney's your third.

1260
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: We haven't seen Tommy Sweeney at all ever. Well, no,

1261
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: he's he played in a couple of games as a rookie. Um,

1262
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: because I remember seeing him teams too, and he made

1263
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 1: he made some catches in some games that forty one.

1264
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: Uh no, not that game, man, You got me. He

1265
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: played some. Yeah, if you he played some though, if

1266
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,959
Speaker 1: you just said he hadn't played it down, I would

1267
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: have forgotten that he had. Yeah. But but that's three. Yeah,

1268
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Speaker 1: And I know you got Nate Becker Reese. He has

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: a future free agent. He's been on the practice squad

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: a couple of years. You know, he's Gilliam, still Gilliam,

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01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: still around, but he's kind of a move guy. Right,

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: So that's all right, you got enough? If all he

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: needs three? Yeah, but I think he'd like somebody else

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01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: in the hopper as a consideration. I think that's an

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01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: under the radar consideration. Maybe maybe later in the draft,

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01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: perhaps if the guy's sitting there. But you're right, I

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01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: had not given that much thought. Um, well, we'll see.

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: Do you have an under the radar move? I've given

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01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: you a couple here. I've thrown linebacker at you. I

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: threw some tight end at you. What you got for me?

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: Wake about? You got any under the radar stuff that

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01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: you if they could have. What about defensive tackle? I

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01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: know you've mentioned Christian barm Or a couple of times.

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: It's a horrible draft for defensive tackle talent. But I

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01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: think they're I think maybe center center. Yeah, okay, I

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01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: like Creed Humphrey. I do not they're maybe not at thirty.

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah he may not last, but why not. But one

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01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: of those guys, I think a center who's or a

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01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: guard center, guard center, versatile interior offensive world. Yeah, it's

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01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: a shame that Vera Tucker is not gonna be there

1291
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: at thirty. He's gonna be off the board long before

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01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: that kid is a Yeah he is a good he's

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01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: player man. Yeah, he's a real grade. He's everything. So

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking the interior offensive line to maybe my

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,480
Speaker 1: move of all, you know, under the radar, even at thirty,

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01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: if there's a guy there they like, I think they're

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01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: gonna get. I can sense that this is an offense

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01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: and and a coach and GM for that matter as well.

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: They like big nasty bodies down inside. They they're not

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01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: if you like big and nasty Deontay Brown from Alabama. Right,

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01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: that guy is Jamie Nail's size, Right, He is a

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01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 1: big boy. He He's probably got the biggest shoulder pads

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01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: he can buy, and they look like they're they look

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01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: like teacups on his shoulders. There's I mean, he's big.

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01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: He explodes that six three three forty four. There were

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Speaker 1: times they said he played last year three sixty five.

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01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: And if you've watched I was watching him earlier this week, Steve.

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01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you got two hundred eighty two hundred ninety

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: pound guys coming at him and stop. It's like they

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01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: hit a wall. Yeah, he doesn't give up ground. I

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01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: think that's pass if you can get a guy like

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: that and motivate if he's the right guy. Um, you

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01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: think about when you've got a quarterback like Josh. You know,

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: you put a guy like that guy in there in

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01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: front of Josh on a quarterback sneak, and all of

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01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got the number one short yardage offense

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Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, with guys like that Cody Ford

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01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: and those got big heavy dudes down inside. He's gotta

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01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: be quick though. I mean because those inside guys at

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01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: defensive especially three techniques. Yeah, first step quickness, you gotta

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: you gotta get there. Yeah. Um, and that'll probably be

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: the challenge for him at the next level. But I

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01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: mean he was a three year starter at Alabama, and

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Speaker 1: I mean you look at the guy. It's like, if

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: you stand next to him, he's blocking out the sun.

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: Like he's that's how he's the behemoth of a man.

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01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, yeah, and he's got to check out.

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: They got to vet him because he did get suspended

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Speaker 1: the last two games his sophomore season. He got suspended

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Speaker 1: for four games his junior season, so that they got

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: to check all of that stuff out and make sure

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01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: he's good to go on all of that. He was

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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. People thought he had a pretty

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01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: good week. I watched some of his Senior Bowl tape

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01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: and he's popping people. Like when people engage with him

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, their head snaps back. It's like one of

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01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: those deals. It's like, oh, it's hard not to notice it.

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01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: It's it's one of the things that we talk about

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01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,440
Speaker 1: it a lot. And I mean it shouldn't go unnoticed

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01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: when you talk start talking about guards, and not so

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: much centers, but guards. Those guys really have a tendency

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01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: to be street fighters. You know, those guys that are

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: like the you know, the angry neighbor kind of guys.

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're guys that if somebody's in your

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01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: Like if you're a neighbor and you've got one of

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01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: those neighbors and you've got a guy that's kind of

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01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: peeping over your fence or trying to you know, you've

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01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: got to that guy's over in your yard saying what

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01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: are you doing over here in my neighbor's yard? What?

1350
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: You know? Those kind of guys their neighborhood neighbor Heart,

1351
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: neighborhood Watch program, They're like, who are you here with? Who?

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: What are you delivering? All right, he's not there. Used

1353
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: to leave it and go. You know, those kind of neighbors.

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01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: What are you a porch pirate? What are you doing? Yeah?

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01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: What are you? Hey? What are you? Who are you?

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01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: You know those kind of neighbors. Um, those that's what

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: guards kind of are. Um. You know, you go to

1358
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: a you go out for a beer, You sitting next

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01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: to that guy. Well, you don't sit next to that

1360
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: guy because you say, have something. Your other buddy's sitting

1361
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: next him because somebody's gonna be in an argument with

1362
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: him and you don't want to be near it, right,

1363
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: don't want to get hit with something, right. That's those

1364
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: are kind of guys you Feliciano is a great example.

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01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: There's other guys, you know, There's been other guys as well.

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy Richard was like that back in my day. I

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01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,440
Speaker 1: just think it's going to be very interesting to see

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01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: what the Bills want in an interior offensive lineman, because

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: you have two conflicting things here at work. You've heard

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: them say they want to be able to run the

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: ball better. To me, that means they want to be

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: able to reset the line of scrimmage two yards downfield

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01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: so their running backs have space to exploit creases. But

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01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know this is a team

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: that's gonna throw forty times a game, so that means

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01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: you have to have a guard that's powerful enough to

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01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: reset the line of scrimmage but also nimble enough to

1378
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: be effective in pass protection or smart enough. And does

1379
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: Deontay a guy like Deontay Brown check all those boxes.

1380
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, And it's interesting because you can

1381
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: help a guard with the center, but you can't help

1382
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: both guards with the center. And what happens is teams

1383
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: with a guy like Aaron Donald or a guy like

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01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: even you know at Oliver, one of those explosive quick guys.

1385
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: They'll exploit wherever you are. So if if they want

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: to put him on a guy who's a big, heavy, difficult,

1387
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 1: you know, not move guard, they'll put a quick guy

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01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: on him and try and run around him and force

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01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: the guy to run around him. Or if they know

1390
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: your center is always going to help that guy in

1391
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: pass pro, they will take advantage of that because you

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01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: become predictable in who you're going to help in your passpro,

1393
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: so they can you can start the chess game right

1394
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: away with an offensive guard who needs help in pass pro.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us, we will step aside. But when

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Speaker 1: we come back, our good colleague Maddie Glab we'll be

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: joining us as she brings us the latest from the

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Speaker 1: Mock Draft Watch on Buffalo bills dot Com. She's up

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Speaker 1: next here on One Bills Live presented Body Collid to Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live.

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Joined as promised by

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01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: our good colleague Maddie Glab, who has been dutifully compiling

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Speaker 1: the Mock Draftwatch series on Buffalo Bills dot Com latest

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01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: installment came out over the weekend, and we've had Maddie

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 1: on for a couple of these and now it is

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01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: time for the latest update and Maddie is here to

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01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: provide that with us. What would do Maddie Before we

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01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: get to some of these players that have been popular

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: selections for the Bills at thirty, can you or have

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01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: you been able to discern any shift in the preferences

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: from way in the beginning of this mock draft watch

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01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: to now, like, has there been like a definitive position

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01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,440
Speaker 1: switch in the picks that have been made more recently

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01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: than the ones that were made Oh my god, all

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01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: the way back in January or February. I'm looking at

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01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: so like, after we track every group or every batch,

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: like the last couple that we have released, I've tracked

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01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: about twelve for each one, so we're unmocked draft eight

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01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: point zero. We've tracked one hundred and four total mock

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01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: drafts so far. We've got another one coming out this

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01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: weekend where I track another twelve. So I'll go through

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01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 1: everything during the week, go through Twitter, go through the internet,

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: see what people are releasing in terms of mock drafts,

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01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: and then after I track those twelve or fifteen, I'll

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01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: mark down, okay, out of this batch, here's how many

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01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: corners were selected, Here's how many running backs, here's how

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: many linebackers. And so I have it in front of me,

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01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: and as I'm looking at these numbers, there hasn't been

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01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: a crazy switch in anything. I'd have to say the

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01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: biggest one was before we resigned Matt Milano. That first

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01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: couple of mock draft watches that we released were very

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01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: heavy and linebacker, and since then that linebacker position has

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: gone down quite a bit. And really the only linebackers

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: that we're seeing now be mocked to us are more

1435
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: of your specialty linebackers, which people have said this draft

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01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: has depth in those types of specialty linebackers. I was

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01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: on the phone with NFL network Cynthia Freeland this week

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: and she was saying, I totally think a specialty linebacker

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: could work in your system, because of Sean McDermott, because

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01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: of Leslie Frazier, because of the type of defense that

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01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: they play, because of the linebackers that are already on

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01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: this team. So she thought some of that made sense.

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: So linebackers really the only switch, but steady Eddie has

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: been the corners, the offensive tackles, the edge rushers, and

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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: the running backs. Running back has gone down a little bit,

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01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: but we're still seeing at least one running back I

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: think every mock draft watch that we release, whether it's

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01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: Naja Harris, whether it's Travis Etn or whether it's Javonte

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01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,919
Speaker 1: Williams from North Carolina. So that's kind of the trends

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01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing. The latest one that we released, there

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01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: were six cornerbacks that were mocked to us out of

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01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: the twelve that I tracked, and edge rushers there were

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01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: three out of the twelve. So corner has been something

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01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,440
Speaker 1: that's been growing, I would say, in people mocking us corners.

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01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I'm seeing trend wise, at

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01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: least from this round of mock drafts that we tracked

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01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: and released. So the next one is quite similar too,

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01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,759
Speaker 1: just very defense heavy, very defense heavy. You're not seeing

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01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: any wide receivers, if you're seeing offensive linemen, a lot

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01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: more offensive tackles than guards. But as we know, and

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01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: Greg Kosell told Steve Tasker and I last week when

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01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: I was co hosting, that these guards tackles they could

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01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,839
Speaker 1: sometimes go either direction. Depending on what system they're playing

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01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: in college football, being very different than the NFL in

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01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle or an offensive guard, based on how

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01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: they play, based on their measurables and things like that.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's begin with a handful of press

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: specs here. And I know a guy that has been

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01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: mocked to the Bills for quite some time has been

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Speaker 1: the Georgia edge rusher Aziz Ogillari. Some people wonder if

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01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: he schemes specific They think he's too short to, you know,

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01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: play in a three four system, but he looks like

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01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: he suited to a four three defense like the Bills play. Yeah, definitely.

1474
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: And he's been a name, honestly that I saw really

1475
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: early on in January, and then he kind of disappeared

1476
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: off of some of these mock drafts. And now he's

1477
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: been a name that's been coming up quite a bit lately.

1478
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: And then the next one rerelease, we'll see more people

1479
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 1: mock Aziz Ojilari to us. So this kid six two,

1480
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: he's two hundred forty nine pounds. He played in twenty

1481
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: seven games over three years. Last season he had twelve

1482
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: and a half TFLs eight and a half sacks, which

1483
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: you love to see two passes defense to four forced fumbles.

1484
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: He led the team in quarterback pressures with thirty five,

1485
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: which is quite a bit and would you like to

1486
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: see out of some He was a semifinalist for some

1487
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 1: big time awards. This kid was named a team captain

1488
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: as a freshman. He had fourteen sacks over his career,

1489
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: so you're seeing some measurables in his stats and the

1490
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: fact that he was named a team captain as a freshman.

1491
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Sean McDermott would love that. A lot of

1492
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: coaches would love that because he was showing leadership at

1493
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: a very young age. I was looking at NFL Network's

1494
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: draft profile and they grade him as a player who

1495
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: could be a starter within the first two seasons. I

1496
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: really like his long arms, his strong hands, and strong

1497
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: base that he provides. I think his explosiveness really stands

1498
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: out when you watch his tape. Another thing that I

1499
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: noticed when I was watching some of his film was

1500
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: how nicely he can shed blocks, and I mean he

1501
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: can throw guys to the side with the strength. His

1502
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: upper body strength looks like it's at a different level

1503
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: than a lot of these players. He can get his

1504
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: hands up in passing lane, he knows how to use

1505
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: his strength, which you love to see. I think he's

1506
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: someone who sees a target and he goes right after

1507
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: that target and tackles strong. So those are some of

1508
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: the things that stood out to me when I was

1509
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,560
Speaker 1: watching his tape. What do you guys think up a

1510
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: ziz Ogelari. I think he's got the thing I like

1511
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 1: about him. He's got a great stab move that he uses.

1512
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: He puts it right in the breastplate of the offensive tackle.

1513
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: And his arms, as you mentioned, Mattie, they're long, so

1514
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,959
Speaker 1: he's able to keep the hands of most offensive tackles

1515
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: off him that way. And I know Steve and I

1516
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: saw some of his tape in the control room a

1517
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and Steve was like, oooh, I

1518
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: like that guy. And it's because he can flatten and

1519
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: get around the curves. Just speak to that. He can

1520
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: rush off the edge, and I think and he obviously

1521
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: he's got the athleticism to be really versatile, so they

1522
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: can find a role for him and he can evolve

1523
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: into the kind of player that they need him to be,

1524
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: even if it is if it's if it's with his

1525
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: hand off the ground or on the ground. I think

1526
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: he can evolve into whatever they need him to be

1527
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: or be both, which is I think huge. And I

1528
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: think this coaching staff has shown a desire to have

1529
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: guys who can do more than one thing, and and

1530
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: this guy is certainly falls into that category because because

1531
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 1: of his physical ability, and he holds up pretty well

1532
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: in the run game for only being six two and

1533
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: two forty nine, he's he's uncommonly strong for a player

1534
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: his size at his current age. From most of that,

1535
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: the run game stuff is desire and he doesn't shy

1536
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: from yeah, and that's that's as important as being physically

1537
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: capable in some respect, particularly in the front seven. So

1538
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: tell us about another linebacker shun. This is always exciting

1539
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: to me, Mattie, because we go through this and as

1540
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: you go and I'm with you, you read all I'm

1541
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: a ton of mock drafts and then you compile, you know,

1542
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 1: the thirtieth pick that like fifteen mock drafts. There's some

1543
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: every once in a while, a really nice name pops

1544
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: up on these mock drafts. So there's a lot of

1545
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: scenarios where really good players pop up or all to

1546
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: the number thirty pick. So Joseph Osai from Texas who's

1547
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: a linebacker as well. This is the same position group

1548
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: as we just talked to Ojilari. What about Joseph Osai

1549
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: and his possibility to being there at number thirty. Yeah,

1550
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: so Joseph Osai is someone who who stood out a

1551
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: lot at Texas, led in a lot of different categories

1552
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: on defense in this past season. I think he's similar

1553
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: to Ojilarian so well in some ways. In some ways

1554
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: he's definitely different. So this kid is going to be taller.

1555
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: He's six four, he's two hundred and fifty six pounds.

1556
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: He played in thirty six games. So I love looking

1557
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: at how many games these players have played in collegiately

1558
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,560
Speaker 1: because you can kind of guess, maybe not guess is

1559
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: the right word, but you know if someone has had

1560
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: a lot of where on their their tires or someone

1561
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: who's had a lot of experience in college. And Joseph

1562
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: Osai has playing in thirty six games twenty four starts

1563
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: over three seasons. This past season, he had six team TFLs,

1564
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: which is a great number, five sacks, two passes defense,

1565
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: three forced fumbles. Like I said, led the team in

1566
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: several of those categories over his three seasons, he had

1567
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: thirty and a half TFLs, eleven sacks, five forced fumbles.

1568
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: He got All America honors from several outlets. Was the

1569
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: Honorable Mention Big twelve Defensive Player the Year this past season.

1570
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: NFL Network, if you look at their draft profile on him,

1571
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: they grade him as a good backup who could become

1572
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: a starter. So what's interesting about him is he was

1573
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: an inside linebacker who just recently this past season moved

1574
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: to the outside, where people say he's more of a

1575
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: natural fit. But with that, he's still very fresh at

1576
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: that position, and I think he offers a high ceiling

1577
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: in that because you could see that he was a

1578
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: little bit more of a natural fit than being an

1579
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,520
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. I think he's kind of like a bulldozer

1580
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: type guy. When I watch his film again. He has

1581
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: long arms, he has strength to him. He has a

1582
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: nice swim move that popped out to me. He's a

1583
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: tough tackler again, just like I said with a z's Ogilari.

1584
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: So this is someone who maybe didn't pop off to

1585
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: me as much as a zz Ogilari did, But that's

1586
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 1: probably because Joseph Oside just moved to the outside from

1587
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: the inside. But with that you get some versatility, right,

1588
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: you have a linebacker who can move around the defense

1589
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: because he has played inside before. So that's what stood

1590
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: out to me. But what do you guys think about

1591
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: Joseph os Yeah, I mean for me, the experience and

1592
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: the big body of work. Those are attractive things that

1593
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: the Bills look for. They look for guys with big resumes.

1594
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: And he's got a long resume, as you pointed out,

1595
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: at two different positions, so he has experienced and position versatility.

1596
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: And the thing for me, guys got thirty four inch arms.

1597
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 1: Stem for a linebacker like or an edge guy, that's

1598
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: valuable because now you can keep offensive tackles off you

1599
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: if you're going to be put on the edge to

1600
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: rush the passer um and I and even though he

1601
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: has long, loping kinds of strides because his legs are longer,

1602
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: they used him in the short areas and the hook

1603
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: zones in coverage to break up path. I mean with

1604
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: thirty four inch arms, you can put those things up

1605
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: in the air. Yeah, I mean, you can be effective.

1606
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: And there's this he grew up in Nigeria before the team,

1607
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: before his family emigrated to the US, and he started

1608
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: as a soccer player. So how can I not love

1609
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: the guy? I mean, honest to guy, And yeah, I'll

1610
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: try not to handicap. I'll try not to. I agree.

1611
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: I M a lot of physical traits. I think the

1612
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: one thing, and you're right, having a big body of

1613
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: work is good because it gives you an eye, a

1614
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: really sound idea of what he's gonna be like when

1615
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: you get him. Now. One of the things as well

1616
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: is he strikes me, despite his size and athleticism, he

1617
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: won't get on the field here as a linebacker, so

1618
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: he's got to play something else. Um, that's a problem

1619
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: to me at thirty you know what. And we talked

1620
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: about that well. Personally, I think he's gonna last into

1621
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: the second round. I don't know if he comes off

1622
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: the board at the end of round one. I think

1623
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 1: he might be at first half of the season. Und

1624
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Even so, um, if he's if he's there,

1625
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: how are you going to use this guy? I mean,

1626
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how he breaks into the

1627
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 1: lineup even unless he can just put rush off the edge.

1628
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: And certainly we've seen him do certain things like that.

1629
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: He's done that at times, and maybe they'll have an

1630
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: idea that they can make him do that exclusively. But

1631
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: that's what he'll have to be if he comes to

1632
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: the to the league, he'll be an edge rusher exclusively.

1633
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: On this team. We're a little tight on time, Mattie,

1634
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: so we only have time for one more. So I'm

1635
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: gonna let you pick. Do you want to talk Kelvin

1636
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: Joseph or Javonte Williams. It's up to you. Flip a coin,

1637
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 1: let's do. Let's do then, because I feel like Kelvin

1638
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: Joseph hasn't been talked about too much. He's someone who

1639
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: has newly been mocked to us. Honestly, he's been mocked

1640
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: to us once or twice. So I think he's he's

1641
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: an interesting player because he doesn't have the big body

1642
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: of experience like some of these players that I just

1643
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: showed you do. So Kelvin Joseph he is a six

1644
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: foot corner one hundred and ninety seven pounds. So he

1645
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: played in twenty games, which you may think that's a

1646
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: decent amount, but he sat out his sophomore year due

1647
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: to transfer rules. He played at LSU his freshman year

1648
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: and then he played as a redshirt sophomore at Kentucky.

1649
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:44,839
Speaker 1: This past season, he had four interceptions and five passes defense.

1650
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 1: This is a very quick corner. I mean, we've seen

1651
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: a lot of these players run very fast. Forty times

1652
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: this year. He ran a four three four forty at

1653
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: his pro day. He opted out the final two games

1654
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: of his senior season. NFL Network grades him as a

1655
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 1: good backup who could become a starter again. Looking at

1656
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: multiple corners just like you guys have, this guy does

1657
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: not necessarily pop off to me where I think, oh wow,

1658
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: this is a nasty player. This may be someone who

1659
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 1: could fall to the second round and be a great

1660
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: pick in the second round, or he could come off

1661
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 1: the table in the first round, depending on when the

1662
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: run on corners begins. I think he pays plays with

1663
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: a really competitive attitude, but it sometimes gets him in trouble.

1664
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: He's been known to have some penalties on him, some

1665
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: personal fouls that he could have avoided. I think you

1666
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: could see his strength when he tackles. I do think

1667
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: four interceptions in a season, especially when he played a

1668
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: shorter season this past year, is great, But I think

1669
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: some of those interceptions he was lucky to get some

1670
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 1: of those in the right place at the right time.

1671
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 1: But wow, this kid has great hands some of the

1672
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: interceptions when you're just watching on the screen. He has

1673
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: a very athletic body to be able to go in

1674
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: and get some of those balls. He had an air

1675
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: reception that was basically on the sideline, did a did

1676
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: a toe tap touch to stay in bounds to grab

1677
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: the interception. So a very athletic corner. I think that

1678
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: has more upside than what we're seeing on the tape

1679
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and I think there's a guy that

1680
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: could be a second round consideration because of those question

1681
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: marks that you mentioned, Maddie, especially at the bottom of

1682
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: round two, which is where the Bills are as we know.

1683
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: So I think that's a guy that on day two

1684
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: could be a consideration at sixty one, provided you know,

1685
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 1: he vets out, you know in the Bills deem him

1686
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: a fit. Here's the thing he was, and here's what

1687
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 1: happened to LSU. He was sat down, he was let's

1688
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: see what was he He was suspended flag. Yeah, he

1689
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,919
Speaker 1: was suspended for the bowl game, I believe at LSU.

1690
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: So his first season he didn't play in the bowl

1691
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: game because he violated team rules. So that was something

1692
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: that popped up if you were to look him up

1693
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: on his NFL Network draft profile. That was one of

1694
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: the red flags that showed up for him. He played

1695
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 1: in eleven games as a true freshman and in the

1696
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: defensive backfield for LSU, and then after the suspension, he

1697
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 1: left and went to Kentucky. He is. One of the

1698
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: first things they talk about him is he's risen up

1699
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: very quickly as of late. He's gotten a lot of

1700
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: because of his pro day, so he's got a lot

1701
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: of upside. He's a nasty competitor appeal to some people. Yeah,

1702
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,440
Speaker 1: and he's got a little red flag, no question. But nevertheless,

1703
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 1: this guy's got some physical skills that certainly, with some improvement,

1704
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 1: could be a really, really good player. Mattie, We gotta go,

1705
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 1: but thank you for the time. As always, we'll check

1706
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 1: back in with you before the draft for the latest

1707
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: edition of Mock Draft Watch. Thanks very much, no problem.

1708
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: Have a good rest of your show, guys. All right,

1709
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: it's break time for us. Don't forget. We're about ten

1710
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: minutes away from talking to NFL dot COM's Connor Or.

1711
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: We'll be joining us in about ten or twelve minutes

1712
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 1: to talk more draft with us. But We've got more

1713
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 1: of your comments on the tweet sheet for under the

1714
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Radar Bills moves in the draft. Next stay with us,

1715
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,799
Speaker 1: Welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1716
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: motoring through a Thursday with you. As we've been talking

1717
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: under the radar moves, you think the Bills might want

1718
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: to pull off on Draft weekend in two weeks time

1719
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 1: from today, And I've thrown out a few. Steve threw

1720
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: out one is a little bit of a curveball. I

1721
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I wasn't expecting that. I thought linebacker

1722
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: could be a consideration that not many are talking about

1723
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 1: right now because after Milano got resigned, everybody kind of

1724
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: put that on the back burner. I think tight end

1725
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: is an underrated consideration just by virtue of the numbers

1726
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: they have said. Safety as well. Yeah, safety a little

1727
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: bit later on, I think is a viable consideration for them.

1728
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 1: And then I think trading back is something that I

1729
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: can't that can't be dismissed because there is good value

1730
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: in round two with the second tier of cornerbacks. There's

1731
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: a second tier of edge rushers that I think can

1732
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 1: help you. Joseph Assai, a guy who we just mentioned,

1733
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 1: I think is going to be in that category. And

1734
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: then Kelvin Joseph, the corner from Kentucky, is a guy

1735
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna be in that second tier of corners. So

1736
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 1: if you don't like what's sitting on the board when

1737
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:46,480
Speaker 1: you're on the clock at thirty and knowing the propensity

1738
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 1: of teams always eager to get up into the bottom

1739
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: of the first round. I mean, we've seen it over

1740
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 1: the last several years. You know, Baltimore at thirty two

1741
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 1: takes Lamar Jackson and you see teams trade up to

1742
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 1: the bottom of the round to kind of beat the

1743
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: people at the top of the board. On day two

1744
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 1: to the punch, I think the phone will be ringing

1745
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: for Brandon Bean if he doesn't like what he sees

1746
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: at thirty and wants to move out, I think there

1747
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: will be opportunities for him there. Can you think about

1748
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: this Kelvin Guys, who's the linebacker we we talked about

1749
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 1: yesterday who had the issues, who was a kind of

1750
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: a it was a really good player, Ronnie Perkins. Ronnie Perkins,

1751
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: He's going to be a second round And the same

1752
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: thing with Kelvin Joseph. These are but really, these are

1753
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: guys with real upside, physical ability, nastiness, they got to

1754
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,799
Speaker 1: get on the field, but they've got some red flags.

1755
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 1: And it's those kind of guys. And this is when

1756
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 1: it's hard. This is when Bills fans are going, oh,

1757
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. It kind of hurts to be on

1758
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: this pro on this protocols and this the process that

1759
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 1: the Bills have. There are certain guys who can really

1760
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 1: really play and who may truly be great players that

1761
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: you're not going to draft, right, You're not, they are

1762
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: not on your board. But I think we have to

1763
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 1: remember what we don't know, right, the Bills do know

1764
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: because of the due diligence that their scouting department and

1765
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: their personnel department do on every single one of these guys,

1766
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: especially the guys that have the red flags like you mentioned.

1767
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 1: We have to take a break because when we return,

1768
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: we will be joined by SI dot COM's Connor Orr,

1769
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: who has released his mock Draft two point zero. I'm

1770
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: going to talk to him about his choices for the

1771
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Bills in round one. We're also going to talk to

1772
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,719
Speaker 1: him about where he's got the Bills in his latest

1773
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Power rankings. Be interesting to find out where they sit.

1774
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: Are they top ten? Are they top five? We'll find

1775
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 1: out next here on One Bill's Draw, One Bills Drive,

1776
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bills Drive here on Buffalo

1777
01:35:43,600 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. At a Steve Tasker who has been all

1778
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 1: over the field. Kind of unique. He was kind of

1779
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, Steely Steve a blimp.

1780
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 1: We're not even in the stratgier of normalcy here. Never normal,

1781
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: especially on a Thursday, two weeks out from the NFL Draft,

1782
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: exactly two weeks out, One Bills Live Chris Brown, Steve

1783
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: tasking with you for our number three of the program.

1784
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 1: We are awaiting the arrival of one Si Do and

1785
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,719
Speaker 1: he has arrived. Look at that right on qu sit

1786
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:41,799
Speaker 1: to join us from parts unknown. It's SI dot COM's

1787
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: NFL staff writer, contributor to the Monday Morning Quarterback column,

1788
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 1: and host of the week Side podcast with Jenny Frentis.

1789
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: It is one Connor Or joining us on the line. Now, Connor,

1790
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: how the hell are you are you doing? All right?

1791
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: You and your family all right here during this pandemic.

1792
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: We're on the we're getting on the right side of

1793
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: this thing. But you guys are hanging in there. We

1794
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: could have used a little sunshine today with a three

1795
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: year old and a four month old, they kind of

1796
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: get him outside where we're making do Yeah, I feel

1797
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 1: your pay cabin fever times ten with kids that age.

1798
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: Good lord man, what's gonna what it went in? Let's

1799
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: say this in five years, three years, ten years. What's

1800
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna be the big question that is going to be

1801
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: answered that we all have today. What do you think

1802
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: is going to happen and that when you look back

1803
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: at this draft and we all look back at this draft,

1804
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 1: what do you think is going to identify it in history?

1805
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: What's his personality going to be? Who's that? I'm sorry

1806
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: miss first part of this. When this draft goes into

1807
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 1: history and we get three or four or five or

1808
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: ten years down the road and we look back at

1809
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 1: this draft, what do you think people are gonna remember

1810
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: about it? That's a good question, you know. I think

1811
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be as eerie as the draft the

1812
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: year before, right where really the headline was was the

1813
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: virtual nature of it in we didn't really know anything

1814
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 1: about ourselves, the pandemic, anything that was going on. I

1815
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,839
Speaker 1: think this is sort of a step in the right direction,

1816
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 1: a step toward full stadiums. But I think in a

1817
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: couple of years, people are going to be talking about

1818
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: probably the depth of the offensive line class that wasn't

1819
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 1: talked about as much as the receiver class. But I

1820
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 1: think they're going to be teams that are getting good

1821
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: players in the second and third round there that can

1822
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: be starters right away. And I think we're going to

1823
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: be talking about who did the responsible thing, the right

1824
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 1: thing with these quarterbacks. I think it's been fascinating so

1825
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: far to see, you know, kind of the stock fluctuating

1826
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: up and down, at least on our side of the business.

1827
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: I think everybody kind of knows coaching staff wise, but

1828
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 1: we've had second Pro days, two second Pro Days, which

1829
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 1: is unheard of, Guys sort of altering their scripts, Guys

1830
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 1: abandoning quarterback coaches altogether, and doing some interesting things there.

1831
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: So I think there's really interesting stuff going on with

1832
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks as well. So, Connor, in one of your

1833
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 1: more recent mock drafts, you have the Bills taking Northwestern

1834
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 1: corner Greg Newsome. I totally get it. Cornerbacks an unquestionable

1835
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: need for this team. Here's my concern, Connor, And tell

1836
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: me if you can talk me off the ledge because

1837
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 1: the Bills are sitting there at pick thirty, and I

1838
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: look at teams like the Jets at twenty three, the

1839
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Titans at twenty two, the Steelers at twenty four, the

1840
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: Jags at twenty five, even the Packers at twenty nine

1841
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: right in front of the Bills. They all need corners.

1842
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 1: I'm worried the run's gonna happen and they're gonna get

1843
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: left out in the cold. Tell me I shouldn't be concerned.

1844
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: I think you should absolutely be concerned. And I think

1845
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: the run. I think, you know, Patrick's er ten and

1846
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: some of those guys are gonna go higher, you know.

1847
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: I think that they could be top twelve picks and

1848
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 1: there's gonna be sort of that mini run there, maybe

1849
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: with him and JC Horn there at the very top.

1850
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: But I think you're right. I think the second run

1851
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 1: starts at twenty two with the Titans. I don't think

1852
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 1: there's any doubt about it. I think they've been all

1853
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 1: over the cornerback market this offseason, and I think it's

1854
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, the one nice thing about

1855
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo here is that you have a great set of

1856
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: defensive minds. You have guys who can plug in a

1857
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: bunch of various skill sets. There might be a little

1858
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: bit more of a pick and choose at the top

1859
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: here a couple of different flavors. For example, you know,

1860
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: I Eric Stokes going to the Titans at twenty two.

1861
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a guy necessarily that works in

1862
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 1: a lot of other schemes, but maybe works a little

1863
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: bit better for Tennessee. So maybe you get a little

1864
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: bit lucky there and you get a well rounded guy

1865
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: like Newsom who they'll be able to plug in there. Yeah,

1866
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: when we get down to thirty, there's been so many

1867
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: mocked drafts out there that there's always seems to be

1868
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: a quality player at thirty. But when you look at

1869
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: the bottom, let's say, the bottom third to the half

1870
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: of the draft, perhaps may maybe the last nine picks

1871
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: from twenty three to mid twenties down to the end

1872
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,600
Speaker 1: of the first round. What is the best way to

1873
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: go about it? Do you take what's your philosophy? Do

1874
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 1: you take a guy with great gifts and some red

1875
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: flags and hope he hits, or do you only take

1876
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: a guy that you know is not the floor is higher?

1877
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you take a guy

1878
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: with a bigger top end with no ceiling, or do

1879
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: you take a guy with a higher floor. It's a

1880
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 1: great question. I think what I would do is necessary.

1881
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 1: You know, you have to know your own roster. So

1882
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: for example, if I'm Cleveland and I just signed you

1883
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: Deveon Clowney and I have Miles Garrett. If Jason Away

1884
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 1: is on the board, right, and that's a guy that

1885
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:14,719
Speaker 1: people are talking about the rawness, you know, no sacks

1886
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: last year, but has all the tools in the athleticism,

1887
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: that's somebody I take a flyer on because I'm gonna

1888
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 1: need a pass rusher down the road, and he might

1889
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 1: be a top five pick with a little bit more seasoning.

1890
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: If I'm Buffalo, you know, I think that the strategy

1891
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: there is really to get a guy that you know

1892
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 1: that you can plug and play. Like, we don't know

1893
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with this offseason. We don't know,

1894
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, how involved players are going to be with workouts,

1895
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: We don't know if there's going to be outbreaks, We

1896
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 1: don't know if things are gonna have to go virtual.

1897
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: And so you know, you're a team that's ready to compete.

1898
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 1: You have Super Bowl aspirations, and I think that you

1899
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 1: take the cleanest guy on the board that is going

1900
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: to slide into a position of needs. So Buffalo, I think,

1901
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 1: is just in a different spot there where they're just

1902
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: so on the cusp that you have to get a

1903
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: guy that you can plug in and you know is

1904
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: responsible enough to be ready to play Week one. So

1905
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 1: Connor take a broader view with me, if you'll indulge

1906
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 1: me on this. With the AFC East, we've got three

1907
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: teams now chasing the defending AFC East champion Bills, and

1908
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: they are armed with loads of draft capital. As you know,

1909
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: Miami's got two picks at six and eighteen, the Jets

1910
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 1: have two picks at two and twenty three, and even

1911
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots pick ahead of the Bills, something we rarely see.

1912
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: They're picking at fifteen. So what do you think, Let's

1913
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: take him one at a time. What do you think

1914
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: each of these teams do in round one to help

1915
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: them close the gap on the Bills. So the Jets,

1916
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,919
Speaker 1: I feel the most confident. I think we can almost

1917
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: lock in the fact that they're going quarterback at two

1918
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 1: and pass rusher with their second first round pick. I

1919
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 1: think that Robert Salo wants to round out that defensive

1920
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 1: front impair somebody with Rankins, Quinnon, Williams, you know, all

1921
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: their new additions there. I think he wants that final

1922
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 1: piece to that defensive line. So I think they're going

1923
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 1: to go quarterback and pass rusher Miami. I think that

1924
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: they might look at offensive line. I think there's still

1925
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: some work there, and I think with that top pick,

1926
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 1: they're going to go receiver. I think that they were

1927
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,719
Speaker 1: kind of comfortable jumping back up into that spot because

1928
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 1: they want either whether it's Pits from Florida or whether

1929
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 1: it's the top selection, especially if Cincinnati goes offensive line,

1930
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: that top selection from the receiver class, whoever they want there.

1931
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: I think that's the way that Miami's going In New England.

1932
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 1: It's such a weird thing. I mean, you know, they

1933
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,879
Speaker 1: could be going linebacker. I mean, you know, Bill Belichick

1934
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: loves these versatile pieces. He wants to start rebuilding this defense,

1935
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: and he's obviously sees things from a defensive point of view,

1936
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 1: but this is going to be the highest he's gonna

1937
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: pick in his own mind, probably for the rest of

1938
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,759
Speaker 1: his coaching tenure, and I think he might want a quarterback.

1939
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,600
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense one of those guys is

1940
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: going to slide to him at fifteen. Whether it's the

1941
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: person he wants or not, I don't know. But they've

1942
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: been active a little bit. They've been involved in Justin

1943
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: Fields's second pro day, So who knows what they're and

1944
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 1: what they're hearing. But I wouldn't be shocked that to

1945
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 1: see them at least take a long look at a quarterback,

1946
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 1: especially if one slides to them in fifteen. So in

1947
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: you're mind, there's a very good chance that Cam Newton

1948
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: is only there to serve as a bridge serve as

1949
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 1: a bridge serve as you know, I don't think in

1950
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 1: three or four years it's gonna be weird to have

1951
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: a Taysom Hill component to it. And I don't want

1952
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 1: to put Cam Newton into a box and say he's

1953
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: like Taysom Hill. I think he's, you know, a hundred

1954
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 1: times better than that. He redefined the quarterback position. But

1955
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 1: at his present stage in his career, recovering from as

1956
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: many surgeries as possible, I mean, you know, he's still

1957
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: an incredible weapon, and I think that you could utilize

1958
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: him in that way. I think you could have him

1959
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: on the field sometimes and then you could have another

1960
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 1: quarterback on the field. At other times, I think you

1961
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: could utilize him in a really interesting way while he

1962
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 1: gets healthy and while he fully recovers, I still think

1963
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: there's plenty of gas left in the tank. But you're

1964
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 1: paying him almost as that hybrid backup with incentives, and

1965
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 1: I think that the idea deal with that is that

1966
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 1: you could add another piece there and to diversifier offense

1967
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: all the day. With the top of this draft looking

1968
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: like it could go quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, is there a

1969
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 1: chance at this quarterback class and you get a guy

1970
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: like guys we haven't talked about, like Kellen Mond out

1971
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 1: of Texas, these guys that quarterbacks that are down the

1972
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: list a little further, Is there a chance that this

1973
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 1: quarterback draft could be a little bit like the nineteen

1974
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: eighty three quarterback draft, although with a different order, where

1975
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 1: you got six quarterbacks taken in the first round of

1976
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: the draft, and you know half of them go to

1977
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, of course in eighty three, but

1978
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: it could be one of those kind of drafts where

1979
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: there's a ton of young qbs taken by teams that

1980
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 1: are looking for them to be more than just a

1981
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 1: bridge or just a guy they wanted to be a starter.

1982
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: What do you think about the possibility that there might

1983
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: be more than four, maybe five, maybe six quarterbacks taken

1984
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 1: in the first round of this draft. Yeah, it's gonna

1985
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: be interesting, right. You have teams like Washington, who I

1986
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 1: don't think I have the capital to get in there

1987
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: to get one of the top four guys. Chicago definitely

1988
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 1: don't have the capital to get in there and get

1989
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: one of those top four guys. But need quarterbacks. They

1990
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,560
Speaker 1: need quarterbacks really bad. And you know, Kellen Mond is

1991
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: a great example. Did a story on him a couple

1992
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago, got to talk to jimbo Fisher about what

1993
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: makes him so special. You know, teams are kind of

1994
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: eyeing him as that really high upside guy. Strong arm

1995
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 1: was really impressive at his pro day. Davis Mills is

1996
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 1: another one. And Ian Book. You know a lot of

1997
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 1: people are not talking about Ian Book. I think there's

1998
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,719
Speaker 1: a lot more Ian Book interest out there than teams

1999
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: are letting on. So yeah, I mean, I think that

2000
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 1: one of these guys in the second, third, fourth round

2001
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: is gonna hit and I think it's it's it's gonna

2002
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: pay dividends for one of these teams out there. I

2003
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 1: wanted to get your take because I know you had

2004
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 1: a power rankings list out and as we know, Bill's

2005
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Mafia always has something to say about power rankings, no

2006
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 1: matter who's doing them and whether they're happy or especially

2007
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 1: when they're not happy with where the Bills are ranked.

2008
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen blowback from that in the past.

2009
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 1: But maybe just tell us where you've got the Bills

2010
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: in your latest power rankings pre draft and with a

2011
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 1: good draft class, Connor, maybe tell us where you think

2012
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: they could land before we get to the regular season. Well,

2013
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,679
Speaker 1: I think that's really you know, I think that's really

2014
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: the more important question. I think that Buffalo I don't

2015
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 1: think that they're done yet this offseason. I've said that

2016
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 1: a couple of times. I think that they're still going

2017
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 1: to make another move here, and whether that's trading for

2018
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 1: somebody before the draft starts, you know, going up there

2019
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: and getting you know, another offensive weapon for Josh Allen.

2020
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: It would not surprise me at all if they're still

2021
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: kind of in the mix there. And you know, I

2022
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 1: got a lot of flak for kind of overrating the

2023
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Browns a little bit, putting them one ahead of Buffalo.

2024
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 1: But I think that right now, they're a little bit

2025
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 1: more of a complete team, but that doesn't mean that

2026
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 1: can't change. I think Buffalo is gonna surprise some people.

2027
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 1: I think they're going for it and I don't think

2028
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: that they're necessarily done on the veteran front. And I

2029
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: think that they've been drafting phenomenally well, so I think

2030
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 1: that they could end up as a top three or

2031
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,759
Speaker 1: a top four team this offseason easily. And the Bills

2032
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 1: sitting in the AFC East, and you talked a little

2033
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 1: bit about what the Patriots are going to do with

2034
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, we didn't talk about what they did in

2035
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: free agency. Did you think they spent their money wisely?

2036
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 1: It seemed to me like they went out very early

2037
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: and spent like a normal year cap kind of money

2038
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: to get the two tight ends. What do you think

2039
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 1: about the Patriots and their desire to, you know, get

2040
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 1: back in the game with the Buffalo Bills and the

2041
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 1: way they went about it free agent wise? Yeah, I listen.

2042
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 1: I think that what they did was smart. I think

2043
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: there was a lot of value there and you could

2044
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: frame it as desperation, and I think that Robert Craft

2045
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: certainly expressed a little bit of displeasure with you know,

2046
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: the drafting and why they had to be in this position.

2047
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: But I think Bill Belichick would have done that anyway. Right,

2048
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 1: it's a depressed market. You're getting good guys at under

2049
01:48:56,840 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: the market value. You know, you're getting guys like Matt Judon,

2050
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 1: who you know, maybe in a normal year make eighteen

2051
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: or nineteen million, and you're getting him for a five

2052
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: million dollar discount, and you know, you know how to

2053
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: use him. And I think that a lot of those

2054
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 1: things work in his favor. The receivers, I thought, you know,

2055
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 1: maybe you overpaid a little bit for someone that like

2056
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 1: Nelson agil Or. I don't know exactly what he brings

2057
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: that you couldn't have gotten elsewhere for cheaper, but by

2058
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: and large, I think he was just taking advantage of

2059
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: the economics. You know. I think a couple of people

2060
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 1: were saw that as an advantageous opportunity, and New England

2061
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,679
Speaker 1: was certainly one of them. There talking to SI dot Com,

2062
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 1: NFL staff writer connor Or and last one for me,

2063
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 1: Connor is, with respect to some of these rules proposals

2064
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: and things from the Competition committee, we saw that the

2065
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 1: Jersey number proposal was thrown out there and I know

2066
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: you had something to say about that pretty strong opinion

2067
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: on the jersey number system in the league. I know

2068
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 1: where you stand on whether or not it should change.

2069
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: Do you think it should just be pick any number

2070
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 1: you want, or do you still think there should be

2071
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: some semblance of order to position by position. I think

2072
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 1: he BOXX in the offensive line. Those are the poor

2073
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 1: guys that have to follow the rules. I think everybody

2074
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:14,680
Speaker 1: else gets to have fun with that. You have linebackers,

2075
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: defensive line, and single digits. You know, let those big

2076
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,640
Speaker 1: guys wear number two, three, and four like they do

2077
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 1: in college. It's hilarious. I think everybody loves it, and

2078
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: it is traditional. You go back to you know, that

2079
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: charter member class of the Hall of Fame. You know,

2080
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: of course these guys are playing multiple positions, but you

2081
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: had quarterbacks wearing number seventy seven. You had halfbacks wearing

2082
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 1: you know, sixty two or sixty three. You know, it

2083
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 1: was wild back in the NFL's original days. Give these

2084
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 1: guys a chance to go back and and dip into

2085
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: the history a little bit. I would love that one

2086
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: last one for me, just in general round the NFL.

2087
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 1: I can give you an example of what We've got

2088
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. We lost Philip rip not lost him,

2089
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: but he retired. Philip Rivers retired, Drew Brees retired, Ben

2090
01:50:54,360 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger seems on his last last season or two. There

2091
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,839
Speaker 1: seems to be a new generation coming up with Lamar Jackson,

2092
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Josh Allen, you know, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert.

2093
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: Is it in your estimation? And I'm just saying I'm

2094
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: not saying it in the you know, to be disrespectful.

2095
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it this. It seems like with the

2096
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: young players who have come into the league recently and

2097
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: had very quick success. Not so much Josh Allen doing

2098
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 1: it in his third year, but guys like Russell Wilson,

2099
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 1: Guys like Justin Herbert, Guys like Joe Burrow who played well,

2100
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: Guys like even Pat Mahomes, who you know, his second

2101
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,759
Speaker 1: year he was the MVP of the league, Lamar Jackson

2102
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: having success. Is it easier to play quarterback in the

2103
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 1: NFL these days than has ever been? I think that

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Speaker 1: coaches are more willing to bend their system to players

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Speaker 1: than they have been in the past. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's the big difference, right It was normally this is

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Speaker 1: how we run things. You're on my team and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it this way, whereas in the past, you know,

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Speaker 1: it might have been totally different. But I think that

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Speaker 1: seeing the way that Andy Reid's done things with Patrick

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01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes and even before that, a couple of these guys

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01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: have totally changed the way that coaches are approaching this

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Speaker 1: and so with that, I think it's not necessarily easier,

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Speaker 1: but I think there's more flexibility on the coaches part,

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01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:20,600
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good thing because if you

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01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: look back into all these first round pick quarterbacks that

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01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 1: didn't pan out, chances are there was probably some give

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01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff that didn't happen to help these

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Speaker 1: guys get along. And there's a lot of wasted talent

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01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: out there, and I think that we're going to see

2121
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: a little bit less of that. And that goes back

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Speaker 1: to your question about some of the quarterbacks that could

2123
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 1: come off the board in the second and third round.

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01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: There's more creativity out there, and I think there's more

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01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,719
Speaker 1: potential for some of those guys to hit as well. Connor,

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01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 1: before we let you go, why don't you just give

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01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 1: us an idea what you might have coming down the

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01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: pike on SI dot Com for us to keep an

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01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 1: eye out for. Yeah, we have our position needs next

2130
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 1: week tomorrow. We have a great story on Rashad Bateman,

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01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: who every week I've been giving people a pro file

2132
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 1: of a draft prospect that's going to go a little

2133
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 1: bit higher than I think people think. Kellen Mond was

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01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:07,560
Speaker 1: that last week. Rashad Bateman I think is going to

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01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 1: be a first rounder this week. And we have a

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01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,559
Speaker 1: couple more of those guys coming down the pike too

2137
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: before the draft to profile kind of give people a

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01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a look at and who might be

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01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 1: going in the first round that might surprise you. And

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Speaker 1: so yeah, definitely be on lookout for that. Super Thanks

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01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: for the time, Connor. We appreciate it. Look forward to

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01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 1: the draft. I'm sure you'll be ears to the ground

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01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 1: on that for sure. All Right, Thanks, guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's Connor Or from SI dot Com, NFL

2145
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,879
Speaker 1: staff writer for them, also helps on Monday Morning Quarterback

2146
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 1: and co hosts a podcast with Jenny Brentis, which is

2147
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: pretty good as well. So you should check that out

2148
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 1: if you get a chance. So I think the biggest

2149
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:50,799
Speaker 1: takeaway from just chatting with him a little bit is well,

2150
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 1: for he had a number of things that were pretty interesting.

2151
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 1: The last thing that you asked him about. He thinks

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01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 1: the reason that it's easier to play quarterback now is

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01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 1: that core dators have bent to the abilities of the

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01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: signal callers. And we've seen it firsthand right here in

2155
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: Buffalo that I think he's exactly right. Coaching in the

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01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 1: NFL level, at the highest level for a lot of

2157
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 1: years was they had things that worked, They saw things

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01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 1: that worked, and they had to answer to either head

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01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 1: coaches or owners or whoever about how they were using

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01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 1: what they were doing offensively, and there was no regard

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01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 1: for In fact, teams would draft for a type of

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01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: player that would fit their system. Now we talk about

2163
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 1: systems a lot, but basically it is building a system

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01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 1: that is conducive to your team's talent. That's what Brian

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01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 1: day Ball and Sean McDermot have done both and Leslie

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01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 1: Fraser on both sides of the ball. Yeah, they have

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01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: done a ton of that and have MAXI and I

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01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 1: think that's why this team every year is playing better.

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01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 1: At the end of the under McDermott has been playing

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01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 1: better every year and you know, than they at the

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01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: end of the year than they did at the beginning

2172
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 1: of the year. Their system evolves, they find out more

2173
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 1: and more about who they have, who they have. Their

2174
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: skill sets get polished a little bit even during season.

2175
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: They get more confident, they try more things, they show

2176
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: the coaches more things, and the coaches put trust they

2177
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: put those things to use. That's why the Bills are

2178
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 1: a much different team, you know, at the end of

2179
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 1: this seat last season then they were at the beginning,

2180
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: both offensively and defensively, particularly defensively this last year. I

2181
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 1: think that's the atmosphere around them. I think he's right, Yeah,

2182
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 1: that's the atmosphere of the National Football League these days.

2183
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Good teams evaluate who they are and build an attack,

2184
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 1: an attacking offense or a defending defense that really suits

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01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 1: the talent that they have on the field. And sometimes

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01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 1: it's hard to do. Sometimes you don't have enough guys

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01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 1: to play that way or whatever, and you're so limited

2188
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: physically you become predictable. But even so, I said this

2189
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: a long time, That's why Don Shula was a great coach.

2190
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: Whatever players he had, they only asked them to do

2191
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: what they did well. They didn't try and fit them

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01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 1: in anything whatever. That's what don say. He was way

2193
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve on that he would show up

2194
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: here with Dan Marino and a bunch of guys, and

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01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 1: it was hard to beat those guys because and in

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01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 1: a lot of games with them out there, we know

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01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do because they're limited. But man, oh man,

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01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: they're really good at what they do because they're you know,

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Speaker 1: so that's the philosophy you get. You get some benefit

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01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 1: on that when you even if you're limited and you

2201
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 1: only do a certain things, you you begin to know

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01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of that scheme so well because

2203
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: you are limb you're not doing too much, and you

2204
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 1: know where other teams have to attack you, so you're

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01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: always ready for what they've got. You've been attacked in

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01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 1: that weak spot of your defense before. You know that

2207
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 1: by the scheme of your defense, that's where you're week schematically,

2208
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 1: you know how to cover for that. You know what

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Speaker 1: you expect, you know the wrinkle off of that play.

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Speaker 1: So whatever you do, you come out and you try

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01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 1: and hit these guys with a curveball, it's like, oh, yeah,

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01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: I've seen that. You know. It's really difficult to beat

2213
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 1: a team like that, and despite the fact that they're

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01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 1: sometimes predictable, their knowledge of what they're doing surpasses your

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01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: ability to be prepared in a week's time to take advantage.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here because when we come back,

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01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 1: we want to get your final thoughts on under the

2218
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 1: radar moves you think the Bills can make in the draft,

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01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 1: and I want to save some time for a little

2220
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 1: NFL true false. Haven't gotten to that in a while.

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Speaker 1: We got some good things on the docket there, so

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01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 1: we'll take a break here so we can do both

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01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 1: of those things when we return. Here on One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented Body Colloid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 1: Go back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Task

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01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: talking on the radar moves you think the Bills could

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01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 1: pull off in this year's draft, and we go back

2228
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Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet for off you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And

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01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: I think Seth's got a good point here, Steve, and

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01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: I know I've mentioned this, but getting a guy with

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01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: returnability in the late rounds, maybe a small school type guy,

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01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: hopefully a dB for additional depth as well. Let's not

2234
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 1: forget Andre Roberts signed with the Houston Texans in free agency.

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01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 1: So I know they have Isaiah McKenzie back. He's a

2236
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 1: return candidate, but they got they gotta come up with something.

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01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot in there, an option. There's a lot

2238
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 1: in this because if you get a return guy and

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01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 1: he is a dB, it's a huge boost to your

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01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: roster because most teams don't get too much special teams

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01:58:57,440 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: help out of their wide receivers. If they do, it's

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01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 1: it's a return guy. That'll also give them some flexibility

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01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 1: with their roster if they get a dB who can

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01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: return punt like you know, like Micah Hyde goes back

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01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 1: and he catches punts once in a while. But who

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01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 1: you have returning punts if they can play a full

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01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 1: time position somewhere else or at least a part time

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01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 1: position somewhere else, and dB is a great place for it.

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01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 1: If you got a dB that is like your fifth

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01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 1: corner or your fourth corner and only goes into games

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01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 1: if somebody goes down, that's a great spot to be

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01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:39,839
Speaker 1: in because it gives you some flexibility in other places

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01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, at most notably at running back wide receiver.

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01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 1: It gives another offensive weapon and you can go instead

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01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: of having to have a guy like Isaiah McKenzie is

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01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 1: your third wide out or fourth wide I'm just using

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01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 1: him as an example you could have. You could throw

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01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 1: up an active receiver like you know, a Kumero or

2259
01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 1: a Duke Williams or Isaiah Hodgens, a big guy instead

2260
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 1: of a small guy, and that changes the matchup problems

2261
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: for defense on an offensive snap basis. So while you

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02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 1: know you lose a little something in the return game,

2263
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 1: you gained something someplace else. And so it's it's interesting,

2264
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting because that makes a difference for coaches.

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02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 1: They got they gotta structure that stuff with that in

2266
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 1: mind and there and the Bills have a history of

2267
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 1: doing that. And even with this regime, I mean Ray

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02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 1: Ray McLeod was a six round draft choice with returnability.

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Speaker 1: So I think somewhere late on Day three that is

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Speaker 1: absolutely an under radar move, under the radar move that

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02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 1: they could make. So good tweet there from Seth from

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02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:42,880
Speaker 1: Steven He says, rondel more, please did you not see

2273
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: what he did at the Ohio State game? If not,

2274
02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 1: hope he's drafted in the NFC. Now he's the receiver.

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02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 1: I always mix him up as to whether he's from

2276
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 1: Missouri or Purdue. I don't know why I have a

2277
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 1: mental block there, but oh Purdue, thank you. So Rondel

2278
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 1: or the wide receiver from Perdue, kid can fly. And

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02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, I guess we would have to decide exactly

2280
02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 1: what is the pressing needed receiver, knowing that the Bill's

2281
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 1: drafted two receivers just last season. Yeah, I don't think,

2282
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:21,000
Speaker 1: well they won't. I don't think they'll shy away from

2283
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 1: it if he's the guy they want. Um, but he

2284
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a guy. And you go

2285
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:29,920
Speaker 1: to go to his page and the first highlight you

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02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 1: see from Rondel Moore is an Isaiah McKenzie in the

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02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 1: around inside handoff. So I mean he's exact is the

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02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 1: exact same player, and he's he's out running the angle

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Speaker 1: on guys. Yeah, UM don't know if he if he's

2290
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:51,080
Speaker 1: any better at wide receiver than Isaiah McKenzie is, But

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02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: that's the kind of player you're gonna get with him.

2292
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,680
Speaker 1: Now runs a four to three one. He's in the

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02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie speed category. Right, I don't know that you

2294
02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't be if he doesn't count as a redundancy. I

2295
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 1: think he does, and I don't think he warrants consideration.

2296
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 1: You know, on day two, which is when he's expected

2297
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:13,600
Speaker 1: to come off the board somewhere on day two, he's

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02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: the same stature as he's Isaiah McKenzie. I mean, that's

2299
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: what he is on the collegiate level. Yeah, he's I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have a guy like Isaiah McKenzie who's got some

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02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:27,320
Speaker 1: experience in some NFL exactly experience, rather than you know,

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02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 1: plugging a guy in and it particularly in the year

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02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 1: like this, where you feel like you're on the doorstep

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02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 1: and you get deep into a season all of a sudden,

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02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore hasn't seen something happen, and he's in experience

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Speaker 1: and makes a mistake in a crucial momentum that could

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02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 1: be an issue. Not that this he I mean he

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02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 1: watches highlights. The guy's you know, got three extra gears

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02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 1: as quick as a hiccup. Yes, but he's he's isamc.

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Speaker 1: You're right, he's Isah McKenzie. And when you see him play,

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02:02:58,040 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 1: that's how they use him. That's what he did it

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Speaker 1: per do he would be an identical duplication of what

2313
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:08,480
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie gives you. So Isam McKinsey's important. We all

2314
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 1: love and respect him. We don't need two of them

2315
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 1: from Kyle on the tweet sheet. I think we may

2316
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 1: use our second on a tight end, preferably Pat Fryarmouth

2317
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: from Penn State six five two fifty one. He isn't

2318
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 1: the greatest athlete, but blocks fairly well and cash's literally everything.

2319
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:30,280
Speaker 1: I'd love for that and Farley or Samuel Junior in

2320
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 1: the first round. Granted we have the opportunity. So he

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Speaker 1: wants a corner in round one and a tight end

2322
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,800
Speaker 1: in round two. I think tight end is a sneaky

2323
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 1: under the radar thing that the Bills could look for

2324
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Speaker 1: somewhere on day two. I don't know if it's round two,

2325
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Speaker 1: but even late round three. You know, you get a

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Speaker 1: guy like Tommy Tremble, guy that can move, can run,

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02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 1: can be a factor in the passing game a little

2328
02:03:56,960 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 1: bit right. It's an interesting consideration, it is, and I

2329
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:03,120
Speaker 1: like it. I mean, if you get a good one,

2330
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Speaker 1: you're it's there. Those guys are worth Here's the thing,

2331
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:08,240
Speaker 1: the tight end. A great tight end is worth his

2332
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:11,600
Speaker 1: weight in gold. We've all seen it that because they're impossible,

2333
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 1: your defense is all has to jump through all kinds

2334
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 1: of fiery hoops to cover those guys up. And when

2335
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 1: you get in there to cover them up, all of

2336
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 1: a sudden, they're running the ball down at you. You

2337
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 1: got a bunch of light guys, you know, a bunch

2338
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 1: of you know, you're soft in the run game, and

2339
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 1: then all the guy, the guy pushes you off the

2340
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: ball and they're running up behind this tight end that

2341
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 1: you put a small, quick guy on to cover, and

2342
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 1: now you can't hold up in the run game. There

2343
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:40,760
Speaker 1: it's an absolute impossibility of a matchup. And so yeah,

2344
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 1: I love the idea of finding one of those guys

2345
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:46,839
Speaker 1: in a second on a second day draft pick, who

2346
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:49,360
Speaker 1: in two years or three years, all of a sudden,

2347
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's gonna happen this year, but

2348
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 1: in two or three years you got to you know,

2349
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 1: George Kittle or Travis Kelsey, and you know, you move

2350
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 1: on from there. I'm still thinking that the under the

2351
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:04,000
Speaker 1: radar move might be a trade where we've seen, we've

2352
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:06,520
Speaker 1: talked about it at length, that zach Ertz from Philadelphia

2353
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:08,640
Speaker 1: comes over and as a Buffalo Bill all of a sudden.

2354
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've got enough cap room for that,

2355
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 1: but the account if they can, if they can work

2356
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: out the accounting, I'm I'm in for that. I would

2357
02:05:17,720 --> 02:05:20,640
Speaker 1: be too, all right. Thanks for all your contributions on

2358
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. We appreciate it time now though, because

2359
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 1: we wanted to make time for this little NFL true False.

2360
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:30,680
Speaker 1: We don't do this nearly enough, and I liked some

2361
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:32,280
Speaker 1: of the things that we're on the docket here for

2362
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 1: this edition of NFL True Falls, presented by Yancy's Fancy

2363
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:40,200
Speaker 1: New York's Artists and Cheese Steve True False Number one

2364
02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:46,360
Speaker 1: AJ Epinessa will be the Bill's biggest breakout player in

2365
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:51,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. What say you, I say false, Okay.

2366
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 1: I think Knox is going to be a bigger breakout

2367
02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: player than he will be, and I think one of

2368
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:57,600
Speaker 1: the running backs has a better chance to be a

2369
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 1: breakout player than Epinezza. I think CB ed Oliver could

2370
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:09,000
Speaker 1: as the exact same chance. I would say, at least

2371
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:12,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of chance. And I see I think CB two,

2372
02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 1: whoever that may be, is going to be a difference

2373
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 1: maker for us. So while I like AJ I think

2374
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 1: he's got a great pro body. He's big, tall, long guy.

2375
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, we talked a lot about his

2376
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 1: weight loss from training camp and his pro days and

2377
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 1: his years at Iowa here at Iowa to the weight

2378
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 1: that he lost and the way he changed his body

2379
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 1: to become a pro defensive end. That impressed me because

2380
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 1: that is not easy to do. Anybody's ever tried to

2381
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 1: drop weight, nos, changing changing your body composition is really difficult.

2382
02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 1: And ajppen as It did that, in fact, he almost

2383
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:54,960
Speaker 1: did it too well. That impressed me. I got a

2384
02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 1: level of respect for guys that can do that as

2385
02:06:57,440 --> 02:07:02,080
Speaker 1: I it took me five years to do it myself

2386
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,560
Speaker 1: and it was hard every step of the way, and

2387
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 1: he did it in a couple of months. Man oh man.

2388
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 1: So I'm if that's an indication of his work ethic

2389
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 1: and what he's willing to do to get better. On

2390
02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:16,840
Speaker 1: no question, he is going to have a breakout year.

2391
02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:22,040
Speaker 1: I am kind of I'm on the fence with this one.

2392
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 1: I want to jump on the Dawson Knox train with

2393
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 1: you because I saw signs that it was it was

2394
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 1: getting close, like he was close to really doing something

2395
02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:36,760
Speaker 1: even late last year but then I worry about all

2396
02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 1: the weapons in the offense, and I'm wondering if he's

2397
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 1: gonna get the opportunity to really break out. So I

2398
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:44,600
Speaker 1: kind of shy away from that. And I want to say,

2399
02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, Devin Singletary will have a bounce back year

2400
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:50,520
Speaker 1: this year, but they don't run the ball enough for

2401
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:53,680
Speaker 1: him to really break out, so to speak. You know.

2402
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 1: So I'm inclined to go Ed Oliver here. I don't

2403
02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 1: know why, but I think with Star coming back, I

2404
02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 1: think Ed's gonna have a chance to do something inside.

2405
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:08,440
Speaker 1: So I will say false only because I think Ed

2406
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 1: Oliver I would put slightly ahead of AJ, because I'm

2407
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 1: not convinced AJ's gonna get the snaps behind two veteran

2408
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:19,080
Speaker 1: players to have a true breakout year. Right. They rotate

2409
02:08:19,120 --> 02:08:23,320
Speaker 1: those guys through, no question, but I think they are looking.

2410
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 1: There's a they're down a player that was a big

2411
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:29,120
Speaker 1: part of them two years ago. Trent Murphy's now you

2412
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 1: know he's gone. Yeah, but he wouldn't really play this

2413
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:34,959
Speaker 1: that whole secon was in act, but he was inactive

2414
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 1: because of AJ. Yeah, I think it's a matter of

2415
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:41,600
Speaker 1: whether AJ proves himself enough to get the lion's share

2416
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:44,840
Speaker 1: of the snaps over a guy like Addison or Hughes,

2417
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 1: and that might be a heavy lift. I'm not convinced

2418
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 1: that he can get there if he does good on him, man,

2419
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 1: But I think Ed's gonna be on the field the

2420
02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: most and probably have the most opportunities, and he's probably

2421
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:01,760
Speaker 1: gonna benefit the most from having star on the field.

2422
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:03,440
Speaker 1: So that's why I kind of leaned that way and

2423
02:09:03,480 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 1: say false, Okay, NFL true false. Number two Steelers should

2424
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:15,320
Speaker 1: swing a trade for Teddy Bridgewater. I think false. I'd

2425
02:09:15,320 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 1: say false false. You say Teddy Bridgewater has become has

2426
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 1: become despite his you know the kind of guy he is.

2427
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 1: He's a he's a stellar guy. I think his abilities

2428
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 1: have relegated him to game manager journeyman. Yes, And I

2429
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 1: do not think that's going to be the best use

2430
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:40,480
Speaker 1: of the replacement capital for Ben Roethlisberger. And that's what

2431
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about. He may be a great backup. Okay,

2432
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 1: he's a backup, but Ben's not going to be there

2433
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:49,520
Speaker 1: very long and they need a guy in the pipeline

2434
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 1: learning how the Steelers do business offensively behind Ben. And

2435
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:58,680
Speaker 1: I think Bridgewater character absolutely, he's he'd be a great

2436
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: fit in the locker room. I think he'd a great

2437
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:01,880
Speaker 1: He's he'd be a great fit on any team that

2438
02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:05,880
Speaker 1: could get him. He's a little bit different personality, but

2439
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 1: the same uh difference making ability as Fits. You know,

2440
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:12,840
Speaker 1: the intangibles are what makes the guy right and tells

2441
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:21,160
Speaker 1: me you would still take Fits over Bridgewater Steers trade

2442
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:23,760
Speaker 1: for Bridge. It'd be clear in this. I'd almost take

2443
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater over Fits because of Bridgewaters um and Fits

2444
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 1: is only gonna be their one year. Bridgewaters got a

2445
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of football aft. Yeah, so I think I'd take

2446
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:37,800
Speaker 1: Bridgewater because of the years. On the other end, Um,

2447
02:10:38,840 --> 02:10:40,320
Speaker 1: but that's the kind of guy I'm looking at there.

2448
02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 1: They're completely different personalities. Fits is this gregarious, humorous guy

2449
02:10:43,720 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewaters just solid as a rock. Guys love him.

2450
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:51,000
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, that's a good question, but I'd almost

2451
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:53,480
Speaker 1: take I'd take Bridgewater over Fits. Yeah, I'm gonna say

2452
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:56,640
Speaker 1: true here because after the darn Old trade option dried up,

2453
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't know the Steelers have too many other options

2454
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 1: that are viable that are out there. I mean, can

2455
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:06,120
Speaker 1: you prize somebody away? Sure, at the right price. I mean,

2456
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:08,840
Speaker 1: maybe you pria away Garoppolo a year from now and

2457
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 1: you plug him in in Pittsburgh, which wouldn't be a

2458
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 1: terrible thing for them. But I'm gonna say true here.

2459
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:16,160
Speaker 1: I would I would swing for Bridgewater, have the guy

2460
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,200
Speaker 1: in the pipeline so he's ready to go the year

2461
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 1: after because Ben's not playing more than this year. I

2462
02:11:20,200 --> 02:11:24,000
Speaker 1: can't see it, right, all right? That is NFL true false.

2463
02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 1: We have to break because we have to close the

2464
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:31,480
Speaker 1: shop in about fifteen minutes, So one more break here

2465
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:34,720
Speaker 1: and then we'll tell you what we've learned from this show.

2466
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 1: Plenty of lessons. Love it when it's learning here, it's

2467
02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 1: like mister Rogers, Steve, It's unbelievable. All right. Back in

2468
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:44,600
Speaker 1: a second here on one Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health,

2469
02:11:44,640 --> 02:12:00,880
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio Time for what have we learned?

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02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:05,000
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skywork, the official construction equipment rental

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02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:10,440
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. And we learned today that

2472
02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:13,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things the Bills may take a

2473
02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:17,120
Speaker 1: real hard look at in this draft, well beyond round one.

2474
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:21,720
Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that with all the time that

2475
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:24,760
Speaker 1: we've spent talking about the twenty twenty one draft. I

2476
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:28,120
Speaker 1: think before today we had not spoken a word of

2477
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 1: the safety position. We really haven't talked a whole lot

2478
02:12:31,480 --> 02:12:35,839
Speaker 1: about tight end, certainly not after the Jacob Hollister signing,

2479
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 1: and we haven't said two words about wide receiver. Right.

2480
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:44,200
Speaker 1: Every time we get to this point, though, Brownie, I

2481
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 1: start thinking to myself, Okay, we're going down now. We

2482
02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 1: might think it tight tight into a safety. I'm like, Ah,

2483
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:53,920
Speaker 1: don't overthink it, you know. I mean, you and I

2484
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:55,800
Speaker 1: have chewed on this and we're laughing at each other

2485
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:58,320
Speaker 1: about all the conversations we've had. You can't overthink it.

2486
02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 1: This is still to me about an edge rush, your

2487
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:04,640
Speaker 1: offensive lineman or corner, right. And the problem with this

2488
02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:06,600
Speaker 1: conversation we've had for the last couple of weeks is

2489
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 1: still this. It's thirty. That pick is one you you

2490
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,560
Speaker 1: can trade up and down from. You don't do that

2491
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: so much if you're if you're at three, you've already

2492
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 1: got it done. If you're at four or five, you

2493
02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get a difference making player. If you're

2494
02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:26,160
Speaker 1: up in that top ten, you're not gonna trade completely

2495
02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:29,040
Speaker 1: out of the top fifteen. Yeah, or you're such a

2496
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,480
Speaker 1: or you know, it's one of those draft picks that

2497
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:35,400
Speaker 1: there's a better handle on. So at thirty we're still

2498
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:38,200
Speaker 1: having conversation because there's so many possibilities. The air of

2499
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:41,720
Speaker 1: unpredictability is thick you could cut it with a knife.

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Speaker 1: We have a jam packed show tomorrow, the latest edition

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02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:50,360
Speaker 1: of Tasker's Teammate, Bill's Newest Guard Forrest Lamp and from

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