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Speaker 4: Hey, Rich, I just recently went from a Note nine

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: a question about Wi Fi, Susan, Welcome to the show's

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Speaker 6: So, my roommate has set up a Wi Fi guest

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting? What Uh so you're you were able to

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Speaker 1: connect to this before, Yes, but you're not now correct

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Speaker 6: Unable to join the network. The network is operating on

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Speaker 6: Wi Fi channels in use by several other nearby networks. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, so this is she's using T Mobile Wi Fi? Yes, okay, so.

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Speaker 6: She's both both my Yeah, both my roommate and I

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Speaker 1: And have you tried restarting the T Mobile device? Yes,

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, I'm in the ADU, but it's very dent

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it sounds like you've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: I've never really heard of this happening to a Wi

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Speaker 1: Okay. Have you tried Have you tried forgetting the network

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Speaker 6: So I try, I've tried my iPad and my iPhone.

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Speaker 1: Oh? They both say that same thing. Okay, so I

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Speaker 1: switch it to a different network, you know, you can

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Speaker 1: switch to. There's either two point four gigaherts or five gigaherts,

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Speaker 1: so there's different bands that they offer, So you may

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Speaker 1: try to see if you can switch to a different

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Speaker 1: band to see if that happens. Oh, look, i'm reading

438
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Speaker 1: right here, says the five gigahertz band has twenty four

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00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: non overlapping channels compared to just three on two point

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Speaker 1: four gigaherts. And if this thing supports Wi Fi six

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Speaker 1: or seven, which I don't think it does. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it does, but that could be if she

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Speaker 1: can switch into that, that would be even better because

444
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Speaker 1: those those are more optimized Wi Fi networks. So there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things you can do on the back

446
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Speaker 1: end to see if you can fix this. But I'm

447
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Speaker 1: surprised that this is happening. I really am. I'm very surprised.

448
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Speaker 1: The only other thing I can say to do is

449
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: maybe delete that guest network and set it up again.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a pain you got to reconnect everything,

451
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Speaker 1: but it sounds like you're not connected anyway. So thanks

452
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Speaker 1: for the call, Susan. That is definitely a tricky one.

453
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Speaker 1: That is tricky. Let's go to let's see here. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Debra. Let's see debor is online? What two here? Nope?

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Speaker 1: Line three, Let's go to line three Debra in ten

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Speaker 1: to see you're on with rush.

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Speaker 9: Hi, I am curious about a may get back to

458
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Speaker 9: my web page where I have it. It's a v

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Speaker 9: It's called v C box B six plus. It's like

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Speaker 9: a what do you call it instead of it's alternative

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Speaker 9: to cable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not an alternative to cable. It's it's basically

463
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Speaker 1: stealing TV.

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Speaker 9: Oh okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So tell me what what appeals? What's the appeal of

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Speaker 1: this VC box? Now, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I would be saving hundreds of dollars a year, right,

468
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Speaker 9: So here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: And there's a there's a big article about this. Let's see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone it's called everyone is stealing TV. It's by It's uh,

471
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Speaker 1: the Verge wrote this, and so it is a This

472
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: is an entire industry where people are selling these boxes.

473
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Speaker 1: And you know, here's the deal. This soft where is

474
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Speaker 1: not necessarily illegal. It might be an Android box that

475
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: you connect to your TV with an HDMI cable, but

476
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: the content that you're tapping into, the content that you're

477
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: getting on this box could be operating in a gray

478
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: to illegal area. So I get a lot of emails

479
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: from people about these boxes. They have one hundred different names,

480
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: but the reality is they're all doing the same thing.

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Speaker 1: And these boxes have been around since the beginning of time.

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Speaker 1: You know, even back in the day with cable, you know,

483
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Speaker 1: you had people that had these de scrambler boxes, right,

484
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: and you always had a neighbor. Oh, I get everything,

485
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: I get all the fights, I get all the nothing,

486
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: I get everything, every pay per view, every channel. You know,

487
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: this is nothing new. People have been pirating content since

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Speaker 1: the beginning of time, Right, So you can do whatever

489
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Speaker 1: you want. I'm not here to judge you based on

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Speaker 1: what you choose to do in your home, but I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you the problem with these boxes from a purely

492
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: money financial standpoint is that you're gonna buy this box

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Speaker 1: for three four hundred bucks whatever it is. I'm looking

494
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: at this and you know, I hate to name names

495
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: because there's so many of these, but you know you're

496
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna look at this box. You're gonna buy it. And

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00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to find there's there's not even

498
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Speaker 1: a way to buy this box on here. You got

499
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Speaker 1: to know someone it looks like. But you know, you

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00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: buy this box, you spend a couple hundred dollars. You

501
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow, you know, because what's

502
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: happening is these apps that are on this box are

503
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: always trying to get around the legal you know, the

504
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: legal restrictions that these apps put in place, and so

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00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: they're always it's a game of cat and mouse the

506
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: whole time. And so you may wake up one day

507
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: something works great. The next day it doesn't work great.

508
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: You wake up, you know the next it's just it's

509
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: not a very good experience either. So I understand people

510
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: want to save money. People don't want to pay for stuff.

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00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: If you want to do that route, I would go

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Speaker 1: with the free apps like to B, Pluto, TV, Zoomy

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00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: or Zumo. I think it's called zum. There are many

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00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: ways that you can watch content for free that's advertising

515
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: supported and legitimate. And I understand the appeal these boxes.

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00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: Believe me, and I will link up this article that

517
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: you know talks about I mean, it is a long article,

518
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: this is a deep dive, and it is it's an

519
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: extremely intricate system of people selling these boxes out of

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00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: the back of pickup trucks in cities all across America.

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00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: And you may have one, and you may say, rich,

522
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: it works great, I love it. I get all this

523
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: content for free, but you have to remember it's not

524
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: really free. I mean, there is stuff for free out there,

525
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: tons of content for free that is legitimate. And so

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00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: I would say Deborah This is no indication of you

527
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: or you know, judging you in any way. Believe me,

528
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: this is a very legitimate question. People ask this all

529
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: the time. There are one hundred different boxes that have

530
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: similar names, but I do not recommend them. I can't

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00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: recommend them, and I say stick to the legitimate services.

532
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: You know their names, HBO, Max, Pluto TV, you know, Netflix, Paramount.

533
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: I get it. They all cost money, peacock, but there

534
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: is plenty of content out there that you can watch

535
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: for free. I would say just stick to that and

536
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: pay if you you know, pay for the stuff that

537
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: you that you really want, and stay away from these boxes.

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00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: They definitely don't operate in a very legitimate area. Thanks

539
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: for the question, good question. Eighty eight rich one on

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Coming up. Yes, I'll tell you about the Alexa sassy

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Speaker 1: personality and uh what else. Sons has some new speakers

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a couple of years. This

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Speaker 1: is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology triple

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Speaker 1: A rich one On one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four to one zero one.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We got an email from David, see, I told you

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00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: this would happen. David said, I had a problem just

551
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: like your caller with the Wi Fi issue, and we

552
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: had to do a hard reset on the router, pushing

553
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: little that little button on the back with a paper

554
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: clip and totally set up the router again. They use

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00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: the T Mobile tech to assist them. You may not

556
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: have to do that, but yeah, that would. So if

557
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: you do a hard reset on the router, that's gonna

558
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: reset everything back to factory, which means you plug it in,

559
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go through the whole motions of

560
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: setting up your Wi Fi network, the guest network, all

561
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: that good stuff. But that may be your best bet

562
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: to get this thing figured out. I knew it was

563
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: kind of an odd problem because that's not something that

564
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: happens very often. I will tell you I was very

565
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: impressed with that T Mobile Wi Fi the five G

566
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: you see it advertised everywhere, but it's like, basically, it

567
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: takes a cellular signal, the T Mobile cellular signal that

568
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, makes a signal on your phone, and it

569
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: takes that, pulls it in and then broadcasts it out

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00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: as a Wi Fi signal. So that would repla place

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00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: your Wi Fi signal at your house from say your

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00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 1: cable internet or you know, fiber internet, anything that's wired

573
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: into your home. Now, this is just a wireless signal.

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00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: So it worked really well. My dad switched to it,

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Speaker 1: and I was very, very impressed. He was getting like

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00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: two two hundred down, which I thought was pretty fast,

577
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: and it did everything it needed to do. And by

578
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: the way, it's a lot cheaper, especially if you have

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Speaker 1: T mobile service. I think they give you another discount,

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00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: but I was pretty impressed with that. All Right, So

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Speaker 1: I've been telling you that Alexa got a sassy adults

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00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: only mode that can curse, so we may have to bobo.

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00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: You may have to be on the button here so

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00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: if she drops like a can I say F bomb? Yeah,

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00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: she drops that, you got to bleep that out. But

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00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: this is the new so Alexa Plus, this is because

587
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: of AI. They added this new personality option that's only

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00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: for adults. You have to be eighteen or older to

589
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: use this Alexa voice and I'll tell you you actually

590
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: have to like I'll tell you in a second. But

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00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: basically you can switch to sass mode in the background

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00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: or you know, on your settings and it changes how

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00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: it talks back to you, so sarcasm, sharper humor, and attitude.

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00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: It might have insults or reality checks along with the

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00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: answer you ask for. So do not look if you

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00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: are delicate. Okay, if you are a delicate human, you

597
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: can't take a little bit of you know, criticism, a

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00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: little bit of you know, edgy humor, like you can't.

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00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: You can't survive at a roast. Don't don't enable this.

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00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: It's not going to generate you know, explicit or not

601
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: safe for work content. So it's still being safe, but

602
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: it's definitely going to be a little bit more playful,

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00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: and it may swear. So here's the deal. I just

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00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm turning it on in the Alexa app and it

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00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: says explicit content disclaimer. This style contains explicit language and

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00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: mature subject matter. And I have to press continue and

607
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: then I have to verify this with face idea on

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00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: my phone. Okay, so now we're gonna ask Alexa something.

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00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: Let's see if let's see if we have to bleep

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00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: this out, Alexa, how are you doing today? And tell me,

611
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: tell me give it to me real. I'm doing fantastic.

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00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Thanks for asking.

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00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 11: I've spent the morning correcting myself about pie versus pie,

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00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 11: which is basically my whole existence in a nutshell, processing

615
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 11: thousands of requests per second, and somehow still finding time

616
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 11: to be wrong about dessert holidays, living the dream over

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00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 11: here in your speaker, honestly.

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00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean that's not that Okay. Can you tell

619
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: me not a dirty joke, but like an edgy joke.

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00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Let's I don't know this, this may be okay, well

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00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: you know what I think. I don't. I don't know

622
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: if this is the right thing to I don't know

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00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: if it's the right thing to do on the radio,

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00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: because I you know, I don't know what she's gonna say.

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00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: But that's I don't you know. I haven't played with

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00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: this enough to know kind of like the the parameters

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00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: of it. But it's uh. If you go into your

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00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: Alexa app you want to try this out. If you

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Speaker 1: go into your device settings, you know you have your

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Speaker 1: your Alexa personality style and you can explore you've got

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Speaker 1: original brief sweet, chill or sassy. I'll play the preview

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00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: because I think this is safe. Let me play here

633
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: to help and judge your choices. It's a package deal, Okay,

634
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: here to help and judge your choices anyway, if you

635
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: want to have a little fun with Alexa. You know,

636
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: some people think these AI assistants are too like down

637
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: the middle, but that's yeah anyway, So there you have it.

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00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. Can we just wipe

639
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: that whole segment? I should have like planned out what

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00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I was going to ask her and gotten a good response.

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00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: But okay, uh, let's go too. Let's go to Ray

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00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Ray, You're on with Rich Hi there.

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Speaker 12: Rack Hi, everybody. I just have a ship basic question,

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00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 12: and that is what is a gigabyte? Is this a

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00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 12: measure of time? Is there a measure of electricity, a

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00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 12: measure of space? What kind of space? And how does

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Speaker 12: the company replenish the gigabytes monthly like they do?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Interesting, good question. A gigabyte is a is a

649
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Speaker 1: term for storage, so digital storage. And so you know,

650
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Speaker 1: we started out back in the day with you know bytes, right,

651
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Speaker 1: that was tiny, so that might just hold one letter.

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Speaker 1: Then we went to megabytes, which holds more bytes, so

653
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Speaker 1: you might have you know, one hundred letters in one.

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Speaker 1: And then we went to gigabytes, which is you know,

655
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Speaker 1: a billion of those little tiny you know bytes, so

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Speaker 1: a gigabyte is It's gotten pretty commonplace when it comes

657
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Speaker 1: to how we talk about storage. Like if you think

658
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Speaker 1: about your iPhone, like I said earlier, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty six gigabytes, but I think what you know understanding

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Speaker 1: the storage, Like for me, I just and I talked

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Speaker 1: about the my newsletter today. I just got a I

662
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Speaker 1: know my wife. My wife is cracking up because I

663
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Speaker 1: was literally jumping around the house this morning saying, you

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Speaker 1: don't know how exciting this is to me. I set

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Speaker 1: up what's called a NAS network attached storage, right, and

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Speaker 1: I got a sixteen terabyte hard drive, which, by the way,

667
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Speaker 1: this is how nerds talk. My little brother, Justin, who's

668
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Speaker 1: been on the show, when I told him I got

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Speaker 1: a sixteen terabyte, He's like, that's nothing. He's like, you

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Speaker 1: need a RAID drive with four of those together. I'm like,

671
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Speaker 1: what I mean, He's like nerdier than I am. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: sixteen terabytes. So if you do sixteen terabytes, how many gigabytes?

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Speaker 1: I mean? This is like I don't even know when

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Speaker 1: you're getting into this. Sixteen terabytes is sixteen thousand gigabytes.

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Speaker 1: That is just oh my gosh, this is getting way

676
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Speaker 1: too wild. Anyway. The point is what I think what

677
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Speaker 1: people need to know is how much you can store

678
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Speaker 1: on these things. So if you talk about a gigabyte,

679
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Speaker 1: maybe two to three hundred photos, an hour of a

680
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Speaker 1: movie depending on the quality, thousands of pages of digital books.

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Speaker 1: So if you just think about gigabytes in terms of

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Speaker 1: that's a storage term, and then terabytes is even more

683
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Speaker 1: than gigabytes, it's a lot. Basically, you need a lot

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Speaker 1: of this stuff to store all your things nowadays. That's

685
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Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. Eight to eight rich one on

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Speaker 1: one eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Back after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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Speaker 1: Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology at Triple

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Speaker 1: eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. The website is up

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Speaker 1: and running rich on tech dot tv. You've got show notes.

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Speaker 1: This is episode one sixty five. Everything I mentioned is

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Speaker 1: on there, in addition to my TV segment. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to watch the segments I do for television,

695
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Speaker 1: they're all on there. Listen to past shows. You can

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast, and also the newsletter got a

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Speaker 1: new newsletter this weekend with all kinds of stuff. It's

698
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Speaker 1: basically my little newsletter, like my little You're like my penpal, basically,

699
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: like I just write the things that I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 1: I explain how I'm now using Google Gemini for something

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Speaker 1: really cool. I talk about the nasts that I set

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Speaker 1: up at home. Let's see what else. Oh, the email

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Speaker 1: aliases which I needed to use yesterday when I was

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Speaker 1: logging in for Wi Fi. And oh, this interesting AI scanner.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen these things, but now

706
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Speaker 1: they're using AI scanners when you get a car rental

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Speaker 1: and also car dealerships. You're using them now, So that's

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Maybe we'll talk about that more later

709
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Speaker 1: in the show, but I did. We were talking earlier

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Speaker 1: about the sassy Alexa voice, and so I think I

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Speaker 1: figured out the best way to demonstrate she can roast you.

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Speaker 1: Just ask ask the sassy Alexa to roast you. So

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Speaker 1: let's see. Wait is Bobo? Where did he go? Oh

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Speaker 1: he's there. Okay, you're ready on the on the you

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Speaker 1: may have to press the dump button here, but hang on,

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Speaker 1: let's too she says, can you roast me? You're back

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Speaker 1: for more punishment. The Glutton for Digital Abuse returns.

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Speaker 11: You've got a radio show, smart home setup, and enough

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Speaker 11: streaming subscriptions to fund a small country. Yet here you

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Speaker 11: are begging a speaker to hurt your feelings. The professional

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Speaker 11: communicator who needs an Amazon product to tell him he's

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Speaker 11: doing it wrong.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful? Really, I mean that's funny. And she's pulling from

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Speaker 1: like things she knows about you. That is so wild. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm sold. I really I love this snarky Alexa. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I'd ever go back to regular. Why would you?

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Speaker 1: Let's see here, let's go to let's go to duh,

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Speaker 1: let's see. We got Herbert in Rancho Santa Fe, California.

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Speaker 1: I lived in Rancho Santa Fe for like a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks one time in a guest house.

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Speaker 13: Well I've been here since nineteen seventy so are you?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is it's a beautiful place. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. What can I help you with?

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Speaker 7: Thank you?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 13: I have an iMac. It's almost as old as I am,

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Speaker 13: the old fusion right, and I need to replace it.

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Speaker 13: But I don't need at my age I qualities monitor.

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Speaker 13: It does all the stuff that comes with a new iMac.

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Speaker 13: And my thought was I could save some money by

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Speaker 13: buying the Mini and then buy a different brand, reasonable

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Speaker 13: quality monitor and save a couple hundred bucks doing that.

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Speaker 13: I'm just wondering what your opinion on that was, and

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Speaker 13: if so, what brand and monitor should I go to?

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Speaker 1: Good question, So what are you? Okay, you've got the macmany,

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Speaker 1: so you like a desktop? I take it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I want a desktop, and I don't know, I

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Speaker 13: don't game, and I don't do photoshop anymore, and so

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Speaker 13: I just need a good, reasonable quality of monitor to

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Speaker 13: attached to my a Mini if I buy one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you go with the Mac Mini, right,

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Speaker 1: you're talking six hundred bucks that's for the device. Then

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Speaker 1: you've got you've got to add a keyboard in a mouse, right,

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Speaker 1: So you're going to be doing that. So that's going

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Speaker 1: to be I don't know if you already have that stuff,

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Speaker 1: do you?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 13: I have it with the Mac my my Mac, and

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Speaker 13: it's bluetooth. But whether or not it'll work with a

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Speaker 13: new Mini, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if it's bluetooth, it should. Well. First off,

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Speaker 1: two questions, why not just go for the MacBook Neo,

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Speaker 1: the little six hundred dollars laptop?

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Speaker 13: Well, I've got a math. I want something I can

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Speaker 13: work off my desk, okay, in a disk form.

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Speaker 1: So you want like a big monitor, Okay, that makes sense. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you want like something that's like big and I

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Speaker 1: understand that because I do a lot of writing on

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Speaker 1: a big monitor. Okay, So if you do the I

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Speaker 1: was going to say, your other option, if you don't

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Speaker 1: want to deal with like all the tangle of cable

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Speaker 1: and things, you can get an iMac which is all

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Speaker 1: in one, and that's about thirteen hundred dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the pricing of the Macmini versus you know,

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Speaker 1: by the time you get the Macmini for six hundred,

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Speaker 1: uh and then you get the monitor, which you know

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna spend three hundred on a monitor that's

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Speaker 1: six seventy eight nine hundred dollars, okay plus tax obviously

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Speaker 1: about a thousand. So the Macmini is thirteen hundred. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna include everything you need all in one. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna have a nice big screen and you don't

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Speaker 1: have to have any cables. It's gonna come with the

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Speaker 1: keyboard and mouse. It's gonna be a cleaner setup. I

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Speaker 1: think personally. The only thing is i'd have to look

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Speaker 1: at the processor in the in the iMac. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: it's a it's an M four, which is the same

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Speaker 1: as the chip in the Macmini two thunderbolt ports. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're yeah, I mean it's it's really preference. So

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Speaker 1: I would look at those two things. But if you're looking,

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with the Macmini situation. I just

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Speaker 1: think they I don't know. I feel like I like

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Speaker 1: the idea of an iMac better personally for me, because

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Speaker 1: it's all in one right. It's like less cables, less fuss.

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Speaker 1: It just seems to be, you know, unless you're unless

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Speaker 1: you're unless you needed a Mac Mini for a specific reason,

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Speaker 1: and you already maybe already had a monitor, maybe you

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Speaker 1: already had the peripherals. Maybe you're just adding like a

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Speaker 1: little mini server at home. It's a great little device.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like if you're just looking for a

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Speaker 1: casual computer to put on your desk, the iMac is

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Speaker 1: probably a better choice. But with that said, this is

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Speaker 1: your this is your world. If you want to do that,

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with it, and I think that

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Speaker 1: it's going to be great. It's just a matter of

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Speaker 1: getting that monitor. And so for monitors, I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead, is.

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Speaker 13: A particular brand of monitor that you would recommend in

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Speaker 13: a twenty four or twenty financh?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I think obviously Samsung makes some

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Speaker 1: fantastic monitors. Those are going to be great. I think

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Speaker 1: for uh, you know game and you know everyday use.

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Speaker 1: I think that those when you look at the reviews

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Speaker 1: of monitors, the Samsung comes up over and over for

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Speaker 1: almost like everyone. If you want something that's simple, this

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Speaker 1: you know, like a Dell a Dell monitor. Looking at

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Speaker 1: some reviews here the Dell. This is a twenty seven

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Speaker 1: inch four K monitor from Dell for about three less

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Speaker 1: than three hundred dollars. And so I mean this is

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Speaker 1: you can choose your size. You got you said you

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Speaker 1: wanted twenty.

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Speaker 13: Four inch, twenty four to twenty seven. The iMac is

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Speaker 13: a twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I mean twenty four inch monitor from Dell is only

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Speaker 1: one twenty So I mean that's that's pretty good price.

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Speaker 1: I would say, now that's only giving me an h

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Speaker 1: that's only an HD screen. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: bump up to a higher resolution, you have to go

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Speaker 1: with the twenty seven inch. I personally would probably go

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Speaker 1: with that, I would, you know, just because why not?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 13: All right, Okay, well I thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think no matter what

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Speaker 1: you do, you're gonna be fine. I mean this, you

834
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Speaker 1: know you're talking. You didn't really give like a specific

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Speaker 1: thing that you had to do on this computer. It

836
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Speaker 1: sounds like it's more just for general every day surfing,

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Speaker 1: watching videos, you know, email stuff like that. So you

838
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: don't need a super high end setup. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to do the Macmini, which I think is great,

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Speaker 1: and then the smaller monitor that's going to be you're

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Speaker 1: looking at six seven about eight hundred dollars total versus

842
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Speaker 1: the iMac, which is gonna be thirteen hundred dollars total.

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Speaker 1: You know, Like I said, the only thing I like

844
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Speaker 1: about the iMac is that it's kind of all in one.

845
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Speaker 1: It's simple. It's just it's nice. You know, it's just nice.

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Speaker 1: You know, it comes to a bunch of fun colors.

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Speaker 1: So but again, you'll be you'll be fine with either setup.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is people always ask, they say, Rich,

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Speaker 1: I just want like a nice all in one computer,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't really need to do a

851
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: bunch of fancy things on it. If you are a

852
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Speaker 1: cost go member for years now, they always have at

853
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Speaker 1: least one all in one computer in sock and it's

854
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Speaker 1: always a great deal. Usually it's around eight nine do

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Speaker 1: you know, I would say seven to nine hundred dollars,

856
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: And it's always when you look at the specs, you're

857
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: always getting better components than you would if you went

858
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Speaker 1: to just a standard store that's not a membership store.

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Speaker 1: You're always getting like maybe you know, maybe one hundred

860
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: dollars extra of either storage, ram, the monitor, whatever it is.

861
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: You're getting a better value. And that's because you're paying

862
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: for membership, so obviously it's going to be a slightly

863
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: better deal. But I would say if you're thinking about

864
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: an all in one, definitely go to the you know,

865
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: to cost Go and see what they have there. Let's

866
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: see if I can get a quick quick question here

867
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: before we have to go to break here. Let's see here,

868
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Zalin Brooklyn says, Rich, I listened to your show here

869
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: in New York. It's a perfect way for me to

870
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: close out the weekend. I really enjoy it. Like a

871
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: lot of people, I use apps on my smartphone to

872
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: do things like start my car, and warm it up

873
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: before I even step outside. It was really helpful this winter.

874
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if there's a way to run those same

875
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: smartphone apps on my Windows ten PC. Can you download

876
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: or place a smartphone app on a desktop? It depends.

877
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: The answer is if they build that app for the desktop,

878
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: sure you can run it on a Windows PC. You

879
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: might also be able to run what's called Windows Link

880
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: on if you have an Android phone. I don't know

881
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: if you described what kind of phone you have, but

882
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: they've got a way that you can link your your

883
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: phone uphe Phone Link on the yeah, and you can

884
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: run some of your apps and things like that on here.

885
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: So it depends really what your phone is. Did you

886
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: say what kind of phone you had? No, But you know,

887
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: it really depends on the app. So if you're you know,

888
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: like WhatsApp, of course you can run that on your desktop,

889
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: and you can run it on your computer something like

890
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: the Ring. They don't have the Ring app for a computer,

891
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: but you can log in and view your cameras from

892
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: the desktop. So it really just depends if the company

893
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: that makes that app allows you to run that app,

894
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: or they make a version of it for your Windows computer.

895
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: The other thing is depending on you talked about, like

896
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: home automation and things. There is an app called Home Assistant,

897
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: which a lot of people like, and they do have

898
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: a desktop app, but that is it's a very if

899
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: you want to control a lot of stuff and you're

900
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: kind of tech savvy, you can do that as well.

901
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: And that that controls everything from your car to you know,

902
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: your smart home setup. It's like, it's an interesting thing

903
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: to look up. Let me look up the website Home Assistant.

904
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Let's see what the website is, Home Home dash Assistant

905
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: dot io and it's got thirty four hundred different integrations

906
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: with just about every home smart home gadget you can

907
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: think of. But again, this is a you know a

908
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: little bit for the uh smarter than the average bear

909
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: eighty eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven

910
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one More rich on

911
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Tech right after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech.

912
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology. Triple

913
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: a rich one on one eight eight eight seven four

914
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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. Let's go to Joan

915
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: in a Fallbrook, California. Joan, you're on with Rich.

916
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 8: Hey, Rich I have been. I really didn't even know

917
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 8: they made these until this summer and a gentleman came

918
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 8: to my house to quote something and he pulled out

919
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 8: this little printer and printed me a copy of the quote.

920
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 8: So I've been kind of looking at them, and I

921
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 8: was wondering if you had a recommendation for.

922
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: You want to print age, you want to print on

923
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: the go? Yeah, okay, and what uh what do you

924
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: need out of this printer? Because these things are usually

925
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: they're pretty basic, and they're usually pretty expensive. So is

926
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: there any particular thing you need.

927
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 8: There's one I'm looking at. It's the epsom WI. I

928
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 8: think it's one on one or one one zero, yeah,

929
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 8: one ten, one ten, and that's like two hundred dollars.

930
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 8: And I wanted to print like copies of sales receipts,

931
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 8: copies of like you know, if I photographed something and

932
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 8: the customer wants a copy of that, like if somebody

933
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 8: left something with me, you know, like for appraisal purposes

934
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 8: or whatever. I want to just be able to print.

935
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't copy of that, you don't need

936
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: it to scan, just print, Yeah, okay, perfect, I mean yeah,

937
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: so the one there's two in particular that that come

938
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: up over and over kind of like the best, uh,

939
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: the best two out there, And you're right, they're both

940
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: under two hundred dollars, which is pretty good. So I'm

941
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: looking at the workforce, the EPSOM Workforce WF one ten

942
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, right, and the other one is the

943
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: Canon PIXMA PI x M A and so Canon has

944
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: been known, you know, they these are both obviously big

945
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: printer brands, but Cannon has been known for their They

946
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: do a portable photoprinter things called like the self that

947
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: is very popular as well, so they they've got a

948
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: lot of experience. So I'm looking at the comparison of

949
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: these two devices, and I think it's gonna come down to,

950
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of what you're more comfortable with.

951
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: It looks like the Canon is a little bit faster

952
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: on the print speed nine pages per minute versus seven

953
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: for the the EPSEN. Let's see here they both print

954
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: color and black and white. I don't know if that's

955
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: important to you.

956
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I assume. I assume the Canon you're going to

957
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 8: be ink characters. You're going to be having to get

958
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 8: those all the time more than for an EPs And

959
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 8: that's just my assumption.

960
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: But not necessarily but I would I would also I

961
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: would also check the price of those you know what

962
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, because you're going to be talking. Okay, here

963
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: we go. So this is the ink. Okay. The epsen

964
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: uses all pigment inks, which can give you sharper text

965
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: in line graphics, but the Canon uses a hybrid ink system,

966
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: so it means pigment black for text and then die

967
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: for the vibrant images. So that's kind of interesting. That's

968
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: that could be a difference. So I would say, let's

969
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: see a little difference is that the uh, the epsin

970
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: does not support wired printing, So that's if you you're

971
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: gonna go wireless with this, I'm guessing right. Yeah, Yeah,

972
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: it looks like the battery life is better on the

973
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: Cannon versus the EPs in. Three hundred pages versus one

974
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 1: hundred pages. So I think at the end of the day,

975
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: what I would do is just kind of compare these

976
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: two models and see which one has what you need.

977
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: But I'm actually surprised. I haven't looked these up in

978
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: a while, and I'm quite impressed that the prices have

979
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: come down considerably on these little devices. Yeah, they used

980
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: to be a lot more.

981
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, so it's you I called EPs and they have

982
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 8: some refurbished ones, and I said, you know, do you

983
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 8: think that's a good idea? And they said, basically, they're

984
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 8: just you know, in the showroom, they're just set demo

985
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 8: models without the box, and you're pretty much getting a

986
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 8: brand new one. Do you think that's a good idea?

987
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: No, I don't. And the reason is, you know, you're

988
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: you're buying this, you want it to last for a

989
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: long time. You don't know what that open model was

990
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: used for. If, especially if it's a demo, that means

991
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: people are printing a lot of stuff on that. You

992
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: don't want a printer that's already.

993
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 8: Actually yeah, they just said it was for display. But

994
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 8: you know, like you said, who knows, Yeah.

995
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: You know, And it depends on the price. Like if

996
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: you're talking if it's like you know, I'm looking on

997
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Amazon right now and the open boxes are like one

998
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: ninety five versus one ninety nine, I'm not buying an

999
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: open box to save five dollars. You know. Now, if

1000
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: they were selling it you for ninety nine dollars. Okay,

1001
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: now you're talking, that's not a bad deal. And I'm

1002
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: just checking the ratings real quick on Amazon for these two.

1003
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: So the the Epstoin gets a four point four, the

1004
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: canon gets a let's see a four point four as well.

1005
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: It looks like more people. I'm trying to see which

1006
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: one was purchased more in the past month. They're both.

1007
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, these things are neck and neck. They are.

1008
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: I would just go on Amazon just kind of compare

1009
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: them and see which one appeals to you more. They

1010
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: are nearly identical. I would also check to see how

1011
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: much the price is on the ink, because that's really

1012
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: what you're going to be paying for in the long term.

1013
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: And it looks like, you know, the ink is really

1014
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: where they're going to get you on this. So it

1015
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: looks like it's thirty five dollars on the one, and

1016
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: you know, I got to look at the other one.

1017
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: But I would not go through the open box unless

1018
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: it's a substantial savings. I see those all the time.

1019
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 8: You know, it's just like fifty bucks off and it's

1020
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 8: from the company. Yeah, so that's what I was just wondering,

1021
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 8: if you know, really worth just for fifty bucks savings

1022
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 8: to do that. I mean, we're not talking a lot

1023
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 8: of money anyway.

1024
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: No, I mean, look, you know, if it comes with

1025
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: the same warranty maybe, But my my thing about that

1026
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: is that you just don't know, you don't know what

1027
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: this what the life of this thing was before, and

1028
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: you're already putting this thing. This is not something that's

1029
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: going to be sitting on a desk. This is something

1030
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: that's going to be transported around. So you're already going

1031
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: to be you know, it's it's not going to be

1032
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: like just sitting there right, So it's already it has

1033
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: a hard life ahead. Let's put it that way. So

1034
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,959
Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, good question. Thanks for the call today, Joan,

1035
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

1036
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: All right.

1037
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Coming up, we're going to talk about the one hundred

1038
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary of the first phone call. Right after this,

1039
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: welcome back to Rich on Tech. My name is Rich Tabiro,

1040
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: hanging out with you talking technology. We'll get back to

1041
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: those phone lines in just a moment, but first, AT

1042
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: and T is celebrating one hundred and fifty years of

1043
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: the first phone call, and here to talk about it

1044
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: is Scott Combs At and T archivist. Scott, thanks for joining.

1045
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: Me, Thanks Rich for having me.

1046
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: So the very first phone call happened in eighteen seventy six.

1047
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 3: Tell me about that.

1048
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 15: Day Brett, Yes, eighteen seventy six. We're talking March tenth.

1049
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 15: It was the very first complete sentence ever sent across

1050
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 15: a telephone wire. Alexander Graham Bell was in his apartment.

1051
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 15: Thomas Watson, his assistant, was in a room down the hall,

1052
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 15: and Alexander Grehm Bell said, mister Watson, come here, I

1053
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 15: want you. And that was the first sentence ever said.

1054
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 15: And mister Watson came running into the room and said,

1055
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 15: mister Bell, I heard you speaking.

1056
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: When you hear that story, I mean, was AT and

1057
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: T involved at that point? Or did AT and T

1058
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: come along later?

1059
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1060
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: AT and T would have come along later.

1061
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 12: Right.

1062
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 15: At this time Bell had two backers, a man named

1063
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 15: Gardner Green Hubbard and Thomas Sanders, and they basically financed

1064
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 15: his experiments and if something came out of it, which

1065
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 15: it did, which was Bell Telephone Company, they all shared

1066
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 15: in the patent rights.

1067
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: Interesting and so how did people communicate back then? Like

1068
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: typically was it writing letters?

1069
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 15: It was writing letters, but it was also the telegraph.

1070
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 15: The telegraph had been around for about thirty five years

1071
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 15: prior to that, So that was your fast with means

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Speaker 15: of communicating across the country.

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Speaker 1: But when you say, telegraph. I mean that was still

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Speaker 1: like written communication, that was not any sort of audio, right, Well, yeah, you're.

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Speaker 15: Correct, yeah, I mean the telegraph was basically you had

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Speaker 15: to have a trained operator, like let's say at an

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Speaker 15: office or somewhere, who would actually do the wor's code,

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Speaker 15: the dots and dashes that would send the signal to

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Speaker 15: another trained operator across the line. Right, So you could

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Speaker 15: just do that yourself, you had to have somebody trained

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Speaker 15: in between.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we had this first phone call. How did

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Speaker 1: it evolve from there? I mean where did it go?

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Speaker 1: And how long did it take for this to become commonplace?

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Speaker 15: Very fast? I mean within the next year. The Bell

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Speaker 15: Telephone Company, which I just managed to go a little

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Speaker 15: bit ago, they actually started leasing phones out and that

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Speaker 15: was the big deal. They didn't sell the phones, they

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Speaker 15: leased the phone so that they could.

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Speaker 3: Have a recurring revenue stream.

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Speaker 15: And fifty phones were the first that they sent out,

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Speaker 15: and then by the next twenty years you're increasing ten

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Speaker 15: thousand and twelve fifteen thousand phones. The technology spread very fast.

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Speaker 1: I mean for good reason, obviously, I mean, to be

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Speaker 1: able to pick up a device and talk to someone

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Speaker 1: on the other end. That's not in the same room.

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Speaker 1: Was probably pretty revolutionary at the time.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it is revolutionary, right, you're bringing your kind of

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Speaker 15: evaporating time, right, it's before it as opposed to telegraph

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Speaker 15: or the sending letters to somewhere. The telephone you could

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Speaker 15: actually hear the voice, you could speak to somebody, you

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Speaker 15: didn't have to go to do an intermediary of the

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Speaker 15: telegraph operator.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm a kid of the eighties. I remember going

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Speaker 1: to the mall. I believe that AT and T had

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Speaker 1: physical stores in the mall and they had like the

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Speaker 1: video phone on display where you could get a little

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Speaker 1: taste of the future. And I feel like AT and

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Speaker 1: T has always been kind of that company. We've seen

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Speaker 1: it in movies where they're always kind of embracing what's next.

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Speaker 3: We are always.

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Speaker 15: Embracing what's next, and sometimes we're actually ahead of the

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Speaker 15: curve riche let me tell you nineteen sixty four, at

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Speaker 15: the New York World's Fair, AT and T debuted the

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Speaker 15: picture phone, where you could actually use the telephone with

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Speaker 15: the screen that accompany it to have a face to

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Speaker 15: face conversation with somebody. And that was in nineteen sixty four,

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Speaker 15: and we commercialized it in nineteen seventy, so it goes

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Speaker 15: way back the history of video conferencing as you would want.

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Speaker 1: To call it. What do you think has been kind

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Speaker 1: of the biggest change we've seen. I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: in my lifetime, you know, we start out with corded phones.

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Speaker 1: My grandma had a party line. Yeah, I remember that concept.

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Speaker 1: I remember the concept very well. Yes, yes, where so

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Speaker 1: the phone to ring in any of your neighbors who

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Speaker 1: were on the same party I could pick up and

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Speaker 1: listen to your bell McCall.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So there's lots of stories about that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that was because the individual phone lines

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Speaker 1: everyone's house were not yet kind of like built for

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Speaker 1: individual use yet. Is that I'm austing like that?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, you've got it exactly right. I mean, expanding

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Speaker 15: a network is not cheap, right, I mean, look at today,

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Speaker 15: we're expanding the network. We're just investing announced today that

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Speaker 15: we're doing two hundred and fifty billion dollars new investment.

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Speaker 15: And even in the old days, it was really hard

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Speaker 15: to set up a network like that. So you really

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Speaker 15: to simply wind the house to house to house on

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Speaker 15: the party line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about that investment. What do you think

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Speaker 1: will be improved with that. What will change where's AT

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Speaker 1: and T putting their money.

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Speaker 3: It's going to go in the infrastructure.

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Speaker 15: You're going to look at the expansion of the fiber

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Speaker 15: network right to the one hundred million AT and P

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Speaker 15: customers that are out there today, right, I mean we're

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Speaker 15: currently right now, you look at an exhibite of data

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Speaker 15: that is being transferred across this network. You're you're talking

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Speaker 15: about every single book that was ever written and sending

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Speaker 15: that amount of information out a thousand times over every day.

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Speaker 3: That's what this company is doing.

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Speaker 15: And for the future, I mean, I can only imagine

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Speaker 15: it's going to get even broader than that.

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Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about AI and the next generation

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Speaker 1: of networks is going to have AI kind of built

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Speaker 1: in at the core. Tell me what she can give

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Speaker 1: me some insights into what that means exactly.

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Speaker 15: Sure, And before I do that, let me tell you know,

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Speaker 15: there was a researcher, Bella's researcher named Claude Shannon, and

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Speaker 15: back in the nineteen fifties nineteen forties, he had created

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Speaker 15: a maze where he would have a magnet or he

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01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 15: would have a little mouse that would run through this

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Speaker 15: maze and find its way through right to the end

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Speaker 15: of the maze, and then you would pick that little

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Speaker 15: mouse up, it would put it back at the start,

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Speaker 15: and then the mouse had remembered.

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Speaker 3: Its way through right.

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Speaker 15: And this was kind of a way to be able

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Speaker 15: to heal the network in a sense. Right, so if

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Speaker 15: you had a phone on our phone system go down,

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Speaker 15: it could actually self repair itself and reroute those conversations.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about this fiber Internet. I know that you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned that you were investing more money in that.

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Speaker 1: I actually have fiber Internet. I love it. I think

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Speaker 1: it's the best. What advantage people always ask me, like

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Speaker 1: what the difference is between like a fiber network and

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Speaker 1: a different type of network like cable or wireless, Like,

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Speaker 1: explain what the advantage is of fiber.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking.

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Speaker 15: About the old coaxle networks. There was microwave, ula radio

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Speaker 15: station and then just plane copper wire right which was

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Speaker 15: across the country at and opened the first commercial fiber

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Speaker 15: optic line in Chicago in nineteen seventy seven. And what

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Speaker 15: makes it unique is the amount, right, exponential amount of

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Speaker 15: data that you can carry with fiber. And it's also

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Speaker 15: it's relatively inexpensive, right, and it's easier, you know, you

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Speaker 15: don't dealing with the weight, the heaviness of copper cables

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Speaker 15: over lunes. Right, you're doing a single fiber optic table.

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Speaker 15: That's it's the width of the human hair. My so

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Speaker 15: far short lifetime of technology. When it comes to phones,

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Speaker 15: I mean, I remember, like I said, the party line.

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Speaker 15: Then we had a wireless phone, Like I remember getting

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Speaker 15: the first wireless phone at my parents' house, like a

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Speaker 15: you know, cordless phone. I guess you would call it

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Speaker 15: caller ID.

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Speaker 1: Then you've got a cell phone that was analog and

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Speaker 1: then digital, and now of course we have the iPhone.

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Speaker 1: And where are we going with all this stuff? And

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Speaker 1: what could get better about all of this?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Boy?

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Speaker 15: I mean, I think the future is limitless when it

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Speaker 15: comes to that. Again, we look back at the past, right,

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Speaker 15: and you see the vision that these folks had. I've

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Speaker 15: mentioned to people that, you know, even on the day

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Speaker 15: of that first phone call, which is what we're here

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Speaker 15: honoring today, Alexander Graham Bell that night wrote to his

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Speaker 15: father and said, I can imagine the day when telegraph

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Speaker 15: wires will be stretched across houses like water and gas,

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Speaker 15: and then everybody you'll be able to converse with your

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Speaker 15: friends sitting in your own room.

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Speaker 3: Right. So where are we going to go into the future.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 15: I guess we keep investing, and I guess we'll all

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Speaker 15: see together.

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Speaker 1: And do you find it interesting that the way we

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Speaker 1: communicate today is so vastly different than it was one

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Speaker 1: hundred years ago? I mean, the telephone call is still

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Speaker 1: the best way to connect in general, but people are texting,

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Speaker 1: their facetiming, there's messaging. I mean, there's so many ways

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Speaker 1: of communicating now.

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Speaker 15: You're right, there's a lot of ways that communicate, but

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Speaker 15: you're still doing one thing. You're just communicating right that Again,

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Speaker 15: it was the old copper wire. It could have been radio,

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Speaker 15: telephone waves. It doesn't matter. You're still connecting people. The

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Speaker 15: technology is different, but it stays the same in a

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Speaker 15: sense way. Any device that you use today, you're just

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Speaker 15: basically replicating what Alexander Brahm Bell did one hundred and

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Speaker 15: fifty years ago.

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott Combs at and t Archivist, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me today to talk about the one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the first phone call.

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Speaker 3: All right, Rich, thank you very much for inviting me.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll put a link to more about what

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Speaker 1: Sean is talking about on my website. Just go to

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Speaker 1: richon Tech dot TV. All right, get those calls in

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Speaker 1: triple A rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four two four one zero one more rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: coming your way right after this. Welcome back to rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking

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Speaker 1: technology eight eight A rich one on one. I'm just reading,

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Speaker 1: I'm just catching up with all the comments here. Kim's texting.

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Speaker 1: Kim texted that, let's see We got a call, let's

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Speaker 1: see here from Linda from Burbank just called to say

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Speaker 1: she's loving your sixties playlist today. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: And then we got another message from uh, let's see here, Vanessa.

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Speaker 1: I was driving along listening to you this morning when

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Speaker 1: the Monkeys Take the Last Train played in my mind.

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Speaker 1: Immediately went to Saturday. At about that time watching them,

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Speaker 1: I was back in my parents' house on the sofa.

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Speaker 1: Might have to search where I can binge watch that show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the memories, Vanessa. You know it's interesting how

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Speaker 1: that happens. I was thinking about this the other day,

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Speaker 1: how something can conjure up a memory that you didn't

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Speaker 1: even know you had. Like you could watch a movie,

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Speaker 1: you can listen to a song, you can go somewhere,

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Speaker 1: you can eat something, and like boom, like something just

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01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: pops into your head that you had never thought about

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Speaker 1: in years. And I think that's wild. And this is

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Speaker 1: why I love to travel. This is why I love to,

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Speaker 1: you know, go back and revisit things I did as

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Speaker 1: a kid. You know, like if you when I go

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Speaker 1: home to New Jersey, sometimes I'll drive past, like the

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Speaker 1: house I grew up in, because just seeing that street,

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Speaker 1: just going up that street and like just brings back

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Speaker 1: all these memories that were just locked away. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about gigabytes before. How in the world

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Speaker 1: does the brain store all this stuff. It's just there

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Speaker 1: and you may not access it on a daily basis,

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Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, it just bobs. Oh there

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Speaker 1: it is. That was the thought I had. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Brian and Ventura. Brian, you're on.

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Speaker 12: With Rich Hi.

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Speaker 7: Rich, Hi, I have a question. I need a recommendation

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01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 7: or a chrome book laptop.

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Speaker 1: A Chromebook clap top. Okay, what do you want to

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01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: do on this day? It's just basic.

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Speaker 7: Well, so all I do anymore is mostly web based,

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Speaker 7: you know, searching emails, a box, news, you.

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Speaker 10: Know, those types of things. I don't do any gaming,

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Speaker 10: but I'd like to be able to add a keyboard

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Speaker 10: to it, a mouse and a monitor.

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Speaker 1: Well, you want to add a keyboard, a mouse, and

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Speaker 1: a monitor to a Chromebook. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: can do that?

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Speaker 3: Do they?

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Speaker 7: That's my big question.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if I can either.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can do that. These chromebooks are

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Speaker 1: not I don't think they're equipped for that. I mean

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Speaker 1: I have to do some research, but I do not

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Speaker 1: think you can add an external monitor to a Chromebook. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do you have a budget in mind? Because what's

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Speaker 1: your budget?

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Speaker 7: So my budget would be you know somewhere, I mean

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Speaker 7: not a not of the thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Well why, I mean you could get Okay, now, do

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Speaker 1: you have to have a Chromebook?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't have to have a booky, but I

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Speaker 2: was just thinking chromebook so because then it would integrate

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Speaker 2: with all my other Android you know products. I do

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Speaker 2: everything basically on Chrome in terms of you know, surfing

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Speaker 2: the web.

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Speaker 16: Okay, well, so twos is always Android.

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Speaker 1: I I mean I love Android, and I I really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, it's fantastic and it's uh,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that you want to stick with it.

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Speaker 1: I think that the beauty of what Google has built

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Speaker 1: is that they build things that are cross platforms. So

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Speaker 1: if you were to use a Mac laptop, you'd be

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Speaker 1: able to use almost everything that you did you use

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Speaker 1: on a on an Android. So that's that's what I

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Speaker 1: you know, and I talk about that on this show.

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Speaker 1: You know, I always like third products that that operate

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Speaker 1: third party independent, you know, they work on both plat

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Speaker 1: cross platform because Apple is a complet opposite. You buy,

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Speaker 1: you know, an iPhone and you want to use Apple

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Speaker 1: Notes on your you know, Windows computer, Oh, let me

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Speaker 1: just download the app. You can't. In fact, Apple's gotten

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Speaker 1: better about it. You know. They do make Apple Music

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Speaker 1: cross platform that is available on iOS, Android, Windows, Mac.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 7: I don't listen to music.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm just saying I'm in general, I'm just

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Speaker 1: giving some examples here, you know, but in general, everything

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Speaker 1: that Apple makes is clearly just geared towards getting you

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Speaker 1: to buy more Apple products versus you know, Google, You

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Speaker 1: can use them cross platforms. So with that said, I

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Speaker 1: don't think now, there may be some chromebooks that have

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Speaker 1: an hdm MY output that you would be able to

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Speaker 1: do this with. And you know, you could probably connect

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Speaker 1: a keyboard and a mouse using the eight you know,

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Speaker 1: using the USB ports. I just have to check on

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Speaker 1: the external monitor with the Chromebook. I'm not sure that's possible,

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Speaker 1: but maybe there's some chromebooks that can support that. But

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Speaker 1: what I would say is a couple things. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give you a couple models that I like.

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Speaker 1: Number one, if you want something dirt cheap, this this

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Speaker 1: Chromebook has been on sale at Walmart for as low

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Speaker 1: as one hundred and fifty nine dollars, and it is

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Speaker 1: the ACE one.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to give up you know, features and

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Speaker 7: speed just to go cheat. I know him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean when you said, when you said

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Speaker 1: the Chromebook thing, I just thought you were you were

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Speaker 1: trying to go budget. So here's what i'd recommend. I

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Speaker 1: would recommend the laptop that I'm using right now, the

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Speaker 1: a sus Zen Book is going to be a great

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing about these computers. You got to

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Speaker 1: find them on sale, because there are you know, these things,

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: they when they're not on sale, they could be very expensive,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's say eight hundred dollars when they're on sale,

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Speaker 1: they could be as low as, you know, five six

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. So I'm looking at what model this is

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Speaker 1: the A sus Zen Book. I'm looking at it right

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: now on best Buy. They've got it from five hundred

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01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: and eighty nine dollars typically one thousand, and that's going

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Speaker 1: to give you a fourteen inch o lad touchscreen, which

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: is great, Intel Ultra nine thirty two gigs, a RAM

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Speaker 1: one terabyte SSD drive. And the neat thing about that

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Speaker 1: as I'm looking on the side here and sure enough, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's got HDMI, so you're gonna be able to connect

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Speaker 1: an external monitor if you want through there. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that is a that is a good example of a

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Speaker 1: computer where you can just it's got thunderbolts. You'd be

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Speaker 1: able to, you know, connect a monitor as well. But

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Speaker 1: that's a great example of just a fantastic computer that

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Speaker 1: is going to do everything you need for a very

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Speaker 1: good price. And so the other the other place I

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Speaker 1: tell you to look is slick deals. Have you heard

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Speaker 1: of this website?

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Speaker 10: Click?

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Speaker 1: Yes, slickdeals dot net. No, okay, so they I go

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Speaker 1: to this bookmark every single day. They've got a section.

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Speaker 1: So basically, slick Deals is a website where people submit

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Speaker 1: deals that they find other people vote them up. So

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Speaker 1: let's say I find something, I go, oh, wow, that's

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Speaker 1: a really good deal, like AirPods are never this price.

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Speaker 1: I submit it to them. No, there's no other humans,

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01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: it's just other people that look at that, and they

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: just sit there as a hobby and they say, oh,

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01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: that is a good deal, and they do what's called

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 1: a vote up, and so the best things go to

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Speaker 1: the front. They call it the front page. And so

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Speaker 1: right now I'm looking at these laptop deals that I

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Speaker 1: look at every single day, and they are super great

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01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: laptop deals because people that go on the web and

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: they search these things every day, they say, oh, these

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Speaker 1: are the best laptop deals. So I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: go through a few of them. The Asus for six

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars, obviously, the Apple MacBook Neo for five hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: people are loving. Let's see, they've got a I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at just the Windows ones here. They've got an Acer

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: Aspire Touch laptop, Intel five for three seventy two. They've

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Speaker 1: got a refurbished Lenovo Idea Pad five for four forty

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Speaker 1: Let's see what else here an Acer swift Go laptop

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Speaker 1: Snapdragon for five hundred bucks. I mean, it's just fantastic

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Speaker 1: deals all the way through a lot of them, you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the open and things like that. But HP

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: omnibook x flip that's a four hundred and seventy three dollars. Wow,

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: that's a great deal. Let me see what this uh,

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: let me see what the deal is on this one,

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: because that one's a really so these snap Dragon computer

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01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: see this one already went back on back to the

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Speaker 1: regular price. So it was it was selling for five

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Now it's back to nine nine hundred anyway,

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01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: So this will this will help you find the best

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Speaker 1: deals on some of these laptops that are on sale

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: at various places. So again, slick deals dot Net, look

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01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: at the laptop section and the if you want a

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01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: super cheap Chromebook, I know it's not for you, Brian,

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: but for the rest of the folks. Asus c X

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: fifteen one hundred and fifty nine dollars at Walmart and

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01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: then overall, I love the Asus zen book is a

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01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: fantastic deal. Eighty to eight rich one o one eighty

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Speaker 1: eight seven four four one zero one rich On Tech

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Speaker 1: backupter this welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro

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Speaker 1: here hanging out with you Talking Technology triple eight rich

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Speaker 1: one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four one zero one. Sonos just announced its first new

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Speaker 1: consumer speaker since twenty twenty four to two new models,

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: the Sona's Play and the Era one hundred SL. The

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01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: Sona's Plays a portable speaker for three hundred dollars. It

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: fits between the smaller Rome and the larger Move, both

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,879
Speaker 1: of which I have. It supports Wi Fi and Bluetooth,

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 1: so you can use it as part of your Sonos setup,

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01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: or you can take it outside like a regular Bluetooth speaker.

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: I've taken the Smaller Room to a lot of hotel

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01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: rooms over the years because it works both in and

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01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: out of the house. It's water and dust resistant twenty

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01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: four hours on a charge. Then you've got the Era

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01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: one hundred SL, so this is basically a less expensive

1434
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: version of the current Era one hundred, which is one

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01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty nine dollars. The big deal here is

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01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: that they remove the microphone and the voice assistant, which

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: I never use anyway, So that's a good thing because

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01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: it brought the price down. So if you've heard me

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: talk about sons, you know that I have a love

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01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 1: hate relationship. I have a bunch of son No speakers

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01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: I've collected over the years in my home. But they

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: made this app update a couple I don't know, was

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: it a year ago or whatever they did. Oh, twenty

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01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: twenty four was the app update, and it just ruined

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: the system. And I will tell you I am happy

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: to report it's back up and running the way it

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01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: used to be. So I am using my Sonos again,

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01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: and so just know that I don't hate it like

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01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,839
Speaker 1: I used to like I still think Sonos is probably

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: one of the best whole home solutions, if not the

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01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: best for speakers Like Amazon, the Echo speakers are doing

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: something similar Google speakers. You can group all the speakers nowadays,

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: all the smart speakers. I still don't think they have

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01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 1: the just the slick nature of the app integration, the services,

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01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: or the service integration, like you've got every streaming radium

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: and music and audio service known to mankind is built

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01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: into that sonosapp. So I think that's the real trick

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: between that and some of the other ones out there.

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01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: And I really don't use my voice with the sono stuff.

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01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: I I just use the app first to call up

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: whatever I want, for better or for worse. Let's go

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01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: to Paul in Columbus, Ohio. Looks like Paul has got

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: a Oh wait, what happened to Paul go away? It

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01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: looks like there's an X there, so I guess Paul

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: went what went away? But he said he said to

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01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: look into a chrome box for Brian, and Ventura was

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Speaker 1: asking about a chromebook that would connect to like a

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01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: monitor and all that stuff. I'm looking at these chrome boxes.

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01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: They've got a couple like this, a SUS Chrome Box

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01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 1: four is two hundred and fifty dollars and it looks

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Speaker 1: they call them mini PCs. They're like tiny, little like

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: almost looks like a like a puck. So this is

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: a chrome box and it's it's actually not bad specs.

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01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: It's got I mean, Intel Celeron not the best for

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: nevermind four it's not very good specs. Four gigs of RAM,

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: thirty two gigs of oh wow, yeah, see I thought

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: the thirty two gigs was RAM. No, that's the storage

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01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: on board. But you don't really need a lot of

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: storage with Chrome Chrome OS because it's running everything off

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01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: the cloud. But anyway, this is two hundred and fifty dollars,

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 1: and yes, you'd be able to hook up your monitor

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01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: and your keyboard, so I guess you can do that

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01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: with chromebooks. I just to me, I just think of

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01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 1: Chrome OS as like so low powered, but I guess

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01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: it's really all you need if you're doing everything on

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01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: the web, like Brian and Ventura was saying. But yeah,

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01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: they've got a whole bunch of these things. So if

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01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,879
Speaker 1: you want, Brian, I would look up a Chrome box

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: instead of a Chrome book because the Chrome box lets

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01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: you add your own monitor and mouse and keyboard. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Paul and Columbus. Let's go to Bonnie Bonnie and Charleston.

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Speaker 17: Hi, Rich, I'm your favorite pet portrait artist. Oh, hi

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 17: called you before. Do you've helped me?

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Speaker 9: I worked really hard.

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Speaker 17: On my questions so that you can help me.

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Speaker 7: I need.

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Speaker 17: I've had a Workforce printer, the seven six ten, yeah,

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01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 17: the big guy, and it's worked for me well, but

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01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 17: this one stopped printing. The ink is all clogged up,

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 17: So I need a wireless all in one printer color printer.

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01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 17: Scanner copier that I can enlarge copies on because people

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01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 17: send me their photos, the little teeny tiny photos of

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01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,879
Speaker 17: their pets, and then they want me to do the portrait.

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01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:45,839
Speaker 17: So I need to enlarge the copy, and I needed

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01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 17: to take card stock in the tray so that I

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01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 17: can print note cards and business cards.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, I don't know if that was too

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01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: much for you. No, I mean it's you know, the

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01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: main thing is that. But the copier enlargement is the

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01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: only I mean, I've got the printer that I use

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01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: that I think is great. It's the it's the HP

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01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: Smart Tank five one oh one, and it does all

1513
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: those things, the copies, it prints it. You know, I've

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01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: printed business cards on it. So the thing about the

1515
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: card stock is you either have a tray at the bottom,

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01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: and some of those can handle you know, card stock,

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01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: but the problem is the paper has to run up

1518
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: and turn through the machine, and that's where you can

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01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: get a little bit of an issue with the thicker

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01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: card stocks. Whereas if you have a machine that is

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01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: a top feeder, it will feed you know, it kind

1522
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: of slides through from the top like think about gravity.

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01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: It's just pulling it through it's a little bit easier

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01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: for the machine to handle because it's not it's not

1525
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: changing the direction of the paper, if that makes sense,

1526
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: or it's not bending it Does that make sense?

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01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, yes it does. And I used to print quite

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 17: a few multiple copies when I did home portraits and

1529
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 17: things wanted note cards. I don't do that so much anymore.

1530
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 17: So hand feeding is probably safer and better way to

1531
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 17: go because it used to jam a lot. We did

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 17: it from the tray. So your printer that you have,

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01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 17: can you give it to me again?

1534
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: This is the HP Smart Tank five to one one

1535
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: now if you want to stick with with the Eppsen.

1536
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: Did you like the EPs Workforce?

1537
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 17: Well, I liked it, but I used to have to

1538
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 17: scam big pictures. I used to have to scam things

1539
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 17: that were eleven by fourteen. I don't need to do

1540
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 17: that anymore. I'm not doing that kind of copies of

1541
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 17: homes and note cards anymore. Trying to at almost eighty

1542
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 17: years old, I'm trying to wow down a little bit.

1543
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: I love it. You're still working at eighty. You must

1544
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: love what you do well.

1545
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 17: I do, And I love painting the pets for people,

1546
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 17: and and I'm doing some people portraits too. So I'm

1547
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 17: keeping busy and I want to tell everybody, don't ever

1548
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 17: stop working.

1549
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: I love it. I can't wait to stop working. No,

1550
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. You don't want to do that.

1551
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 17: You really don't want to do that.

1552
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: But keeps you busy. Yeah, and it keeps your mind

1553
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 1: fresh and you know, and also it gives you purpose,

1554
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you're you are so you are

1555
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: so bright and energetic. I'm so impressed right now. Like

1556
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: I I'm really like, and you're you're asking me for

1557
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 1: a printer. You know, you're you're sitting there doing your portraits.

1558
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: Still what? Okay, So I'm looking at this this printer.

1559
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: It's funny. This this is really wild. Okay. So I

1560
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: did a little search on AI of all the things

1561
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, right, and guess which printer came up?

1562
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: The printer I just mentioned the five one oh one

1563
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: that is wild. So here's the thing. So that is

1564
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: an ink tank printer. So just so you know, it's

1565
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: not cartridges, it's the ink tank. I don't know if

1566
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: you have a preference for cartridges or or ink tank,

1567
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty simple. So you know, I I

1568
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: like the ink tanks. I think that they're they they

1569
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: feel like you have more control over your ink situation

1570
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 1: than the cartridges that are like this black box that

1571
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on in there. I'm convinced

1572
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: there's only I'm convinced someone takes an eye dropper and

1573
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: literally drops one drop of ink into those cartridges and

1574
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: it's like like it with an evil laugh.

1575
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 17: I know, I agree with you. And on the workforce,

1576
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 17: I switched over to the you know, the generic cop

1577
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 17: cartridges a long time ago, which probably is what clogged

1578
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 17: up the printer.

1579
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: Probably it might have given that printer a shorter life span,

1580
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: but you know, but people plenty of people use the

1581
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: the refurbished cartridges or the cheaper ones. So anyway, so

1582
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: I would take a look at the the HP. I'm

1583
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 1: looking at some other options here. The other one, obviously,

1584
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: Epsyn is the big is the big brand name here

1585
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: with the they kind of I feel like they started

1586
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: that whole ink tank so they make an ink tank printer.

1587
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: The ET twenty four hundred, that one is very similar.

1588
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the price on that one versus the

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01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: one that I have. Let me just check the price

1590
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: on there real quick. Here that one is selling for

1591
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: about one fifty nine, so you're really looking at about

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01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: under two hundred dollars for either one of these, and

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01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: I will link them up on the website. But that's

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: the epsom Eco Tank twenty four hundred, and that's that's

1595
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: going to be a good option for you too. It

1596
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 1: looks like they both handle the card stock and everything

1597
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: that gene. They print the enlargement with the print thing,

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01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: I'd have to check. I imagine most printers can do that.

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01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: I've never done that, but I I did a driver's

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01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: license the other day and enlarged it and so I'm

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01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: sure it can do that on there.

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01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 17: So okay, great, that's great. Yeah, because that the seven

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 17: six ten is running about five hundred dollars, so I

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01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 17: really want to kind of pair down a little bit.

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01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going to give it a look.

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01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 17: All right, thank you, you've been wonderful. One more time.

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01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 17: I appreciate all your health.

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01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 17: So it's terrific. I listen to it even when I

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01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 17: don't understand anything you're talking.

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01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: I love to hear that, I really do. But if

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01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 1: you're not understanding, I'm doing something wrong. I need to

1613
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: I need to make things more understandable. But I you know,

1614
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: I get it. It's this show is for everyone. It's

1615
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: for it's for techies, it's for non techies. So I'm

1616
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: really trying to appeal to, you know, everyone like I.

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: The techies enjoy hearing it because they want to hear

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01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, the recommendations, and you know, they just love

1619
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: tech and the non techies are actually learning stuff and

1620
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: so that's always a great thing. Thanks for the call

1621
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: from Charleston. On my list of places to go, I've

1622
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: been there once. I want to go again. Eighty eight

1623
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: rich one oh one, rich On Tech back after this,

1624
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: welcome back to rich On Tech. Let's go to don

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01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: in a rancho. Santa Margarita done.

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Speaker 18: You're on with rich Hither. You got a tough question

1627
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 18: for you, and yeah, I know it's gonna be tough.

1628
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 18: I write software and I bought the new my Book

1629
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 18: Pro with the M four chip and I put Parallels

1630
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 18: on it and Windows eleven. I need to install SQL server.

1631
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 18: And in order to do that, because of you know,

1632
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 18: some things aren't you have to be configured a certain

1633
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 18: way reading documentation. Uh, there are you know, different ways

1634
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 18: of doing this, and one way, of course is well

1635
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 18: there's a program called Dockers. You've install Doctors and you

1636
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 18: put Window sul Server on top of that. Then you

1637
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 18: get Parallels and the top of that you put Windows

1638
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 18: eleven and then you put your development you know, you're

1639
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 18: wrapping application development program called visual Studio on that, and

1640
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 18: then they get to talk to each other basically. So

1641
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 18: the problem that I'm having this problem is that I'm

1642
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 18: getting the run around from basically everybody.

1643
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 13: I talked to.

1644
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 18: Doctor points their finger to this, and you know, Parallels

1645
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 18: points their finger to that, and so there's really no

1646
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 18: support to actually do the configuration. You know, I'm a

1647
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 18: pro I can program, but as far as configuring it,

1648
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 18: it's a bear. And so the question is where do

1649
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 18: you go for for a one stop answer to get

1650
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 18: you know, hire somebody to do this or you know,

1651
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 18: to get the solution that you need to do just

1652
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 18: the configuration. Where does you know?

1653
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: A guy like me go, yeah, that's a good question,

1654
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: And it sounds like it's highly specific too, like this

1655
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 1: is is this something that a lot of people are doing,

1656
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: you think?

1657
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 18: Or no, oh yes, yes, absolutely, Well then there's got

1658
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 18: to be.

1659
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: Some sort of group that you can find online. I mean,

1660
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: obviously you know, there's I mean, have you tried AI.

1661
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: I imagine you've tried that.

1662
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 18: Well, yeah, I'm just digging around, and I wondered, if

1663
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 18: you know, because I'm a developer, that you know, you

1664
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 18: might I know, this is a little bit maybe beyond

1665
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 18: the scope of yeah, it's.

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01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: A little prog it's a little bit technical. But here's

1667
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, Look, the beauty of the Internet

1668
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: is that there are forums and there's groups, and there's

1669
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: so many places that people go to like kind of

1670
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: exchange information. So I would I would find those places.

1671
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: So what you might do is you might call you know,

1672
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: you might get in touch with parallels and say, hey,

1673
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: do you run like any sort of forum or where

1674
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: do people go or maybe there's a major you know

1675
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 1: forum that people discuss what they're doing on this software.

1676
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 1: Same thing with the you know, the doctor software that

1677
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about. You know, if I'm sure there's uh,

1678
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: there's resources where people go to get help and swap

1679
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: information on that. Reddit is a big source of that, clearly.

1680
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 1: And the problem I mentioned AI. The problem with AI

1681
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: is that it makes up a lot of stuff and

1682
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: so you might be able to find like chat GBT

1683
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: or one of these or Gemini may say, oh, yeah,

1684
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: this is how you do this. It's super easy, and

1685
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: you're literally going through the motions of it, and none

1686
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: of that stuff exists. And this is stuff that happens

1687
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: all the time because I'm always looking up, you know,

1688
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: ways of doing things and methods and stuff, and so

1689
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: it's it's very confident in the answers it gets, but

1690
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily that helpful. It may give you, like

1691
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: an idea of how to do things, but it may

1692
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: not get it right every single time. But I would

1693
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: say I would find the forums, and you know, that's

1694
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: where you're gonna probably get the best advice from other

1695
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: people that have done this. And finding those forums and

1696
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: finding those chat rooms and the you know, the message

1697
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: boards and you know those kind of places, that's just

1698
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: a matter of just searching. You got to you gotta

1699
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: go online and find these things. I mean, these developers

1700
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: swap information all the time. I mean there's there's resources

1701
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: like gethub that people go to in a lot of

1702
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 1: other places where people you know, just exchange what they've

1703
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: learned and what they've done. So that that's your job

1704
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: to find those I'm not sure off the top of

1705
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: my head what they are for those specific applications, but

1706
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: I do know Reddit is obviously a big part of that.

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01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: People go in there, but you may need something that's

1708
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: a bit more professional. It sounds like what you're dealing

1709
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 1: with is much more professional than some of the things

1710
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: I see there.

1711
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 16: But you never know.

1712
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: But I would contact the two companies first and see

1713
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: what they say. If there's a place that people go

1714
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: to get support for these products, and that's really what's

1715
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: going to be your best bet. May not be official,

1716
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: but it may be just, you know, one of these

1717
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: forums that people just go and talk about this stuff

1718
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: and discuss. But yeah, it's frustrating when you when you

1719
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: have a problem that you can't solve on your own.

1720
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: You obviously sound like a smart guy, you know what

1721
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: you're doing, but you're trying to do something that is

1722
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: just you know, there's not like a help page out

1723
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: there that just says, oh, yeah, here's how you do that.

1724
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes there are sometimes there aren't good question,

1725
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, don appreciate it. Amazon. These emails

1726
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: that they send whenever they raise the price any company,

1727
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: they're always so great. It's like, hey, here's all the

1728
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: cool things we're adding but by the way, at the

1729
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: end they're like, oh, and we're also raising prices. So

1730
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 1: this was from Amazon. I think it went out today

1731
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 1: or yesterday, but they have a new Prime Video Ultra tier.

1732
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: So this is their ad free option if you wanted

1733
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Prime Video. Remember a couple of years ago when it

1734
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: used to be ad free. Then they started playing ads

1735
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: on it and they said, if you want AD free

1736
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: now you have to pay three dollars a month.

1737
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 3: So what did I do?

1738
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Of course I paid the three dollars a month because

1739
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: my wife was watching a show said it was so annoying.

1740
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: The commercials were every five minutes, and so I said,

1741
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: all right, I'll pay the three dollars. Well, now that's

1742
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: going up to five dollars a month starting in April,

1743
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: So if you want ad free, you have to pay

1744
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: five dollars a month. And the other thing that they're

1745
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: doing is they're putting four K streaming behind this new tier,

1746
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: this Ultra tier. So you know it's great because you're

1747
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna get Dolby Vision HDR, Dolby ATMOS up to five

1748
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: simultaneous streams, up to one hundred downloads for offline viewing.

1749
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: But you got to pay five dollars a month in

1750
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: addition to the I mean, I guess you could pay

1751
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: for Prime Video by itself. I don't know who does that,

1752
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: but in addition to the Prime membership, which is one

1753
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: hundred and forty dollars a year, so that's an extra

1754
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, fifty bucks a year. Whatever. Anyway, long story short,

1755
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,759
Speaker 1: there are a couple of things guaranteed in life taxes,

1756
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: death and streaming services. The price is going up. Coming up,

1757
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: we are going to talk to David Pogue, one of

1758
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: my favorites. He's got a new book about fifty years

1759
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: at Apple. We will talk about that coming up right

1760
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Speaker 1: here on rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

1761
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology the

1762
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: website for the show rich on Tech dot TV. All right,

1763
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: very excited guests right now on the line in transit

1764
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: actually is David Pogue. You might know him from CBS

1765
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 1: on Sunday Mornings, formerly New York Times columnists for many

1766
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: years and Yahoo Tech. I know that one. I remember,

1767
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 1: I remember all the jobs, David Pogue.

1768
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 16: Well, I appreciate your tracking my resumes so carefully.

1769
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Well, welcome to the show. So you've got a new

1770
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: book out. It's called Apple the First fifty Years. And

1771
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 1: my little tidbit that I always love to say is

1772
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 1: that you were one of the original people, that are

1773
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: one of the few people that had an iPhone in

1774
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: your hands before the general public, which in Apple history

1775
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 1: is very rare. What did that feel like at that time,

1776
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: back in I'm guessing two thousand and seven.

1777
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 14: Ish, it felt like I wanted myself And I'll tell

1778
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 14: you why. Yes, Apple gave out only four phones Wall Street,

1779
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 14: all New York Times, USA Today, and Newsweek, and as

1780
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 14: soon as I had it in my hands, it was

1781
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 14: not to reach the public for two more weeks.

1782
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 16: I had a talk in Italy. So I took the

1783
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 16: Red up to Italy and in the cab to the venue,

1784
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 16: I slumped down in the tea.

1785
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 14: You remember, the first iPhone had shiny capsule shaped back.

1786
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 16: It slipped out of my pocket and I lost it.

1787
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 16: So in the end I got the receipt and there

1788
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 16: was the.

1789
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 14: Cab company's number, and I did I did get it back.

1790
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 14: But there was a moment when I thought the world

1791
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 14: was going to open up and swallow me old.

1792
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, I'm gonna ask you if you can,

1793
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: if you can move locations just a tiny bit, because

1794
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: you're you're breaking up just a little bit. I know

1795
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: you're in transit. That would that would help. But that's wild.

1796
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that iPhones have been slipping out

1797
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: of pockets.

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01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 16: Off the video?

1799
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, try turning off the video that. Yeah, let's do that, Okay.

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01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that iPhones were slipping out of

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01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: pockets from the very first days of the eye phone.

1802
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: That's good to hear that that was happening even back then.

1803
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: So you wrote this new book, the Apple's fifty year History.

1804
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: What was kind of the synthesis behind this, Like, what

1805
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: was the idea behind this?

1806
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,959
Speaker 14: You know, when the Computer History Museum in Mountain Deale, California,

1807
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 14: I had a mac fortieth anniversary celebration. They asked me

1808
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 14: if I would m see the thing, and they brought

1809
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 14: back all these old guys who created the original Macintosh,

1810
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 14: just famous, famous names.

1811
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 16: It was really exciting, and after that it was just

1812
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 16: I mean, it.

1813
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 14: Was a night of emotion and humor and PTSD. So

1814
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 14: my wife actually woke me up in the night shortly

1815
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 14: there after, having had a dream, and she said, you

1816
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 14: know what, you should do. This would be a great book.

1817
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 14: You should do Apples first Years. And I'm old Mariss

1818
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 14: to say. I literally shut her down. I'm like, dude,

1819
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 14: you missed that date that's coming gone. But in the

1820
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 14: morning I looked it up and it turns.

1821
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 16: Out she was right.

1822
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 14: It was exactly two years the way, which is just

1823
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 14: enough time to write a six hundred page book if

1824
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 14: you're crazy.

1825
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. I love that your wife came to

1826
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: you with this idea. So give us. Were you close

1827
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: with Steve Jobs? I mean obviously getting that first phone,

1828
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: I mean were you close with him over those years?

1829
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 16: I wouldn't say close, but I mean I knew him.

1830
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 14: We tech reporters got fifteen minute meetings with him after

1831
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 14: every Macworld expo, so you know, fifteen minutes twice a year,

1832
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 14: and whenever, of course, whenever he didn't like something that

1833
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 14: I wrote in the Times, he would call up to

1834
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 14: scream at me.

1835
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 16: So I definitely saw that aspect of him.

1836
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: So that's what I mean. So, you know, we've heard

1837
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: so much about this guy, and there's been movies and books,

1838
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 1: and you know, like, what was your impression of him?

1839
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 16: He was everything? He was funny, he was compassionate, he

1840
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 16: was cruel, he was volatile.

1841
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 14: You know, I interviewed this guy, Andy Hurtzfeld, who is

1842
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 14: one of the pioneers of the original mac and he said,

1843
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 14: you know, Jobs was quick to cry, he's quick to laughter.

1844
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 14: He could repute his shreds, he could put you on

1845
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 14: a pedestil. He was every adjective you can describe a

1846
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 14: person with.

1847
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 16: And I think that's right.

1848
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 14: And I think that's what so many characterizations of Jobs

1849
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 14: get wrong. Is it's like, you know, the the old

1850
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 14: fable of the blind men encountering and elephants, and you know,

1851
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 14: the guy who finds the legs as an elephant is

1852
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 14: like a tree trunk, and the guy who finds the

1853
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 14: tail says, an elephant is like a broom.

1854
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 16: I feel like Jobs is that way to get the

1855
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 16: whole picture. You really, you really have to have known

1856
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 16: him for a long time.

1857
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Wow. So what did you learn during the research of

1858
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,759
Speaker 1: this book that you didn't already know about Apple?

1859
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 16: I say two things.

1860
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 14: One is how how strongly it is true that Apple

1861
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 14: does not invent technology. So Apple introduced the first mouse,

1862
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 14: the first Wi Fi, the first digital camera, the first

1863
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 14: laser printer, the first touchscreen phone obviously.

1864
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 3: But it did not.

1865
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 14: Invent any God's ability, freakish ability was to spot fledgling

1866
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 14: technologies in the wild and identify them for their potential.

1867
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 16: This could be made easy and beautiful for consumers.

1868
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:24,480
Speaker 14: So Apple makes little acquisitions all the time, small acquisitions

1869
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 14: of small startups that have brilliant engineers and cool technology.

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01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 16: I mean, just in the.

1871
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 14: Last year with this AI stuff, Apple has bought seven

1872
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 14: AI companies. You know, they buy little medical companies all

1873
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 14: the time because Apple is focusing a lot on making

1874
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 14: their medical detection available to everybody on the watch in

1875
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 14: the AirPods. So that was one thing is just how

1876
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,799
Speaker 14: much of Apple he is not inventing but rather polishing

1877
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 14: and perfecting technology. And the other one is just I

1878
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 14: mean every company says we strive for excellence, right, but

1879
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 14: I mean this company is nuts when it comes to

1880
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 14: going the extra mile. They would tell me stories, you know,

1881
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 14: like like face ID, you know that unlocks your phone

1882
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 14: when you look at it. The miles that they went

1883
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 14: to make sure that works. They took it to a

1884
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 14: twins conference to make sure your twin couldn't fool it.

1885
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 14: They took it to a Harley Davidson Rally to make

1886
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 14: sure that fancy facial hair couldn't fool it. They hired

1887
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 14: a Hollywood effects artists to make a series of hyper

1888
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 14: lifelike masks to make sure that a mask.

1889
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 16: Couldn't fool it.

1890
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 14: And they told me this great story about the guy

1891
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 14: in the mailroom who opened up the box from Hollywood,

1892
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 14: and they're all like these basically decapitated heads. So I mean,

1893
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 14: they really went they And there's so many examples like

1894
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 14: that where they just go miles beyond what the other

1895
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 14: company would do.

1896
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: We're talking with David Pogue, author of Apple the First

1897
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: fifty Years. The new book is available now, who do

1898
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 1: you think this book is for?

1899
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 16: You know, I've been thinking about that for two years.

1900
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 14: I mean, there are various contingencies, right that the one

1901
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 14: hundred and fifty people I interviewed were primarily interested in

1902
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 14: getting the record straight and having the right people get

1903
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 14: credit for these famous inventions. There are you know, Apple

1904
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 14: mind blowing fans who just love Apple and.

1905
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 16: What they do, and they want a great story.

1906
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 14: They want the behind the scenes, they want little stories

1907
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 14: of amazing all nighters and hilarious pranks. And there are

1908
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 14: Apple hypercritics and haters, and they are gunning to make sure,

1909
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 14: you know, Apple's missteps and scandals are not overlooked. So

1910
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 14: I would say it's it's and you know, and then

1911
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 14: there's business professor, you know, business studies who want to

1912
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 14: know what were the business decisions that made Apple this

1913
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 14: gigantic monolith that it is now. So I would say

1914
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 14: it was a very difficult needle to thread to satisfy

1915
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 14: those four continent agencies. So yeah, it's it's it's for

1916
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 14: Apple fans, casual readers, business readers, Apple haters, and people

1917
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 14: who just like a good yarn.

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Speaker 1: Now, obviously Tim Cook has been, you know, a managing

1919
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Apple for years now. You know, some would say he

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Speaker 1: has not introduced a breakthrough product, right, and you had

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Speaker 1: the Apple Vision pro that you know, on its surface flopped,

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Speaker 1: although I still think that Apple is going to use

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Speaker 1: that technology in a lot of different ways. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of that that whole situation.

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Speaker 14: You're one hundred percent right and everything you just said.

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Speaker 14: Tim Cook is not a product guy. He does not

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Speaker 14: go out and hang with the design studio every day

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Speaker 14: like Jobs did. He never pretended to be. In fact,

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Speaker 14: it's really freakish that Jobs picked him to be the successor. Right,

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Speaker 14: he is the polar opposite. Jobs was flamboyant and loud

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Speaker 14: and volatile and colorful. Tim is shy and reserved and introverted,

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Speaker 14: does not raise his voice. So Jobs somehow knew that

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Speaker 14: this was the guy who could quadruple apples revenues and

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Speaker 14: profits and share price and triple its head count. And

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Speaker 14: you're right, there hasn't been this every three years of

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Speaker 14: a new iPod iMac iPhone, but there has been this

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Speaker 14: launch of services which has made Apple astronomically profitable, and

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Speaker 14: this movement into medical detection. You know, the watch can

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Speaker 14: now detect high blood pressure and heart problems and sleep

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Speaker 14: apnea and changes to your gates that indicate Parkinson's and

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Speaker 14: those things are saving thousands of lives a year.

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Speaker 16: I mean, Apple told.

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Speaker 14: Me that they get one hundred, one hundred emails a

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Speaker 14: month from people who are young, healthy people, athletic people,

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Speaker 14: and it'll say, your heart is doing this weird vibration

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Speaker 14: thing instead of pumping.

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Speaker 16: It could be atrial fibrillation and you should have it

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Speaker 16: checked out, and their lives are saved. So those are

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Speaker 16: the two areas that the Tim Cook has taken in.

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Speaker 1: And This is just a personal question for you. You've

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Speaker 1: been covering tech for a long time. Like I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: I used to devour your columns like I couldn't wait

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Speaker 1: to read them, by the way, on physical newspaper. That's

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Speaker 1: you know, that was a while ago. But what you know,

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Speaker 1: you went famously from like you had, like a background

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Speaker 1: like theater and then change to technology. So tell me

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Speaker 1: about that change for yourself. How did you go from

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Speaker 1: that to that?

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Speaker 16: That's true.

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Speaker 14: I was a Broadway conductor for ten years, working in

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Speaker 14: orchestra bits. It happened because along came the first macotash

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Speaker 14: and this piece of software that would let you make

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Speaker 14: beautiful typeset sheet music. And not only that, you didn't

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Speaker 14: have to click it in with a mouse note by note,

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Speaker 14: you could play a synthesizer an electric keyboard and it

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Speaker 14: would write out what you were playing as sheet music

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Speaker 14: would is just mind blowingly revolutionary. And so I mean,

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Speaker 14: the actual story is that it costs one thousand bucks

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Speaker 14: that software finale, and I wanted it is so bad,

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Speaker 14: but I couldn't afford it.

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Speaker 16: So I was a member of this Mac user.

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Speaker 14: Group in New York and we have this eight page

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Speaker 14: Xerox newsletter, and the editor said, here's what you do.

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Speaker 16: You write to them and say I want to review

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Speaker 16: your software, and they'll send you a free copy. So

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Speaker 16: that's how it also said, that's literally how we started

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Speaker 16: writing about technology. That's amazing reviews for free software, and.

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Speaker 1: That still happens today, all these years later. You can

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Speaker 1: still write an email and get that David Poge. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna leave it there, Thanks so much for the insights.

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Speaker 1: The book is called Apple the First fifty Years. It's

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Speaker 1: available wherever you buy books. Again, it's Apple the First

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Speaker 1: fifty Years by David Pogue. Thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 1: me today.

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Speaker 16: Thank yous really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, more rich on Tech coming your way right

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Speaker 1: after this. We are going to open up the feedback.

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Speaker 1: These are the emails, the comments, the question just send

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Speaker 1: to me all week long. And by the way, if

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Speaker 1: you want to link to that book, I'll put it

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Speaker 1: on my website. Rich on Tech dot TV. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with

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Speaker 1: you talking technology. The website rich on Tech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: There you'll find the links to everything I mentioned here

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Speaker 1: on the show, all the stuff that people mentioned, all

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Speaker 1: the products we mentioned, all the websites, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: give you one website. Oh where was this website before?

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Speaker 1: We Oh yeah, it's called channel Surfer. This is a

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Speaker 1: channel surfer dot tv. So if you like that old

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Speaker 1: school style of just like leaning back and flipping the channels,

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01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: this kind of looks just like that. So if you

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Speaker 1: go to this website channel surfer dot tv, immediately you'll

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Speaker 1: see the programming grid, you'll see something playing, and they

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Speaker 1: have about forty curated topic channels, things like tech, gaming, aispace, news, music,

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Speaker 1: and you could just it just drops you into the

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Speaker 1: video like midstream, just like a live broadcast. So the developer,

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Speaker 1: Steven Irby, London based developer, built it because he said

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Speaker 1: he's tired of algorithms and decision fatigue when trying to

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Speaker 1: pick something to watch. And I find this myself at

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Speaker 1: home when I'm just like, I just want to put

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Speaker 1: the TV on, Like back in the old days, the

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Speaker 1: TV was just on right in the background, no matter what.

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Speaker 1: And so when I come home it's like all these

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Speaker 1: streaming services, I'm like, no, just just let me. You

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Speaker 1: know what YouTube should do. This YouTube should just have

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Speaker 1: a a channel that just streams like random stuff like

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Speaker 1: just pingpongs. You know, it's not like auto play. It's

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Speaker 1: just like I mean, I guess I don't think they

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Speaker 1: have that, do they. I guess they play video after another.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I don't watch enough YouTube

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Speaker 1: to know. Anyway. Channel surfer dot TV, let's open up

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Speaker 1: the feedbag. Shane in Calabasis says, Hey, Rich, I love

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Speaker 1: the show. You mentioned air tags and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: share something you might find interesting. There's a new mandatory

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Speaker 1: protocol being rolled out for bluetooth tracking devices like air tags,

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Speaker 1: called DULT DULT. It's a standard designed to detect bluetooth

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Speaker 1: trackers that might be used to follow someone without their knowledge.

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Speaker 1: If a tracker appears to be moving consistently with the

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Speaker 1: same iPhone or Android, it can trigger a safety response.

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Speaker 1: The phone may show notification, or the tracker may play

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Speaker 1: a sound so nearby phones can detect it and flag

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Speaker 1: it as a potentially unwanted tracker. Ps. I'm a wireless

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Speaker 1: communications expert with more than twenty years in the industry. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. Adult dult. Jim and Toby Hana, Pennsylvania listening

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Speaker 1: on WTRWFM, says Rich on your radio show, where you

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Speaker 1: were talking about thinking twice before giving a creditor your

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Speaker 1: bank account number for automatic payments, you didn't mention another option.

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Speaker 1: You can set up a bill through your bank and

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Speaker 1: have it sent out automatically. Most banks call it a

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Speaker 1: bill pay service. That's what I use. The payment goes

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Speaker 1: out every month or whatever schedule you choose, and the

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Speaker 1: creditor never gets your account number. A good tip, Jim.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 1: The only thing is, I'm not sure if this qualifies

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Speaker 1: for the auto paid discount. I guess that's what you know.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about getting that autopay discount, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of times you have to give your bank account number.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the bill payment, but I do

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Speaker 1: have a couple of bills that I do pay through

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Speaker 1: my bank because there are certain services that just don't

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Speaker 1: accept a credit card or debit card online and they

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Speaker 1: don't want automatic billing, or maybe they would do that,

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Speaker 1: but I just pay them through my bill pay. So

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Speaker 1: that is a good You kind of forget about that

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Speaker 1: every once in a while, but yes, you can still

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Speaker 1: pay through bill pay. That was the only way to

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Speaker 1: pay back in the day when things were transitioning from

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Speaker 1: like you know, sending a check to sending the bill

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Speaker 1: payment through your bank. Now, of course a lot of

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Speaker 1: them take credit cards and debit cards and online accounts.

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Speaker 1: Barry says, Hey, Rich, I appreciate everything you do. I

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Speaker 1: know you often talk about helping people save money by

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Speaker 1: deleting things and managing storage, but there's also a cost

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Speaker 1: in time and effort. Sometimes it might just be easier

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Speaker 1: to pay a small monthly fee for cloud storage and

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Speaker 1: not worry about it. For example, Apple charges ninety nine

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Speaker 1: cents a month for fifty gigs, three dollars for two hundred.

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Speaker 1: Google one is two dollars a month or twenty dollars

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Speaker 1: a year for one hundred. Microsoft's plan is two two

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Speaker 1: dollars a month or twenty dollars a year, and it

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Speaker 1: also removes ads in the Outlook Windows email. For a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, one of these plans might be more

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Speaker 1: than enough storage and one less thing to stress about.

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree, and I love cloud storage.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. A lot of people that call

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Speaker 1: they don't want to pay for cloud storage, no matter

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Speaker 1: how cheap it is, And so that's the barrier I'm

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Speaker 1: up against, is that people just want no cloud storage fees.

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Speaker 1: I'm paying a ton in cloud storage fees, and I

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Speaker 1: love it because it's simple and it's easy and it's

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't have to buy hard drives. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm still doing the hard drives too, So anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm just paying a lot. Tim from Sandpoint, we just

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Speaker 1: got back from a trip to Europe and had a

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Speaker 1: great experience with a German hotel chain called motel One.

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Speaker 1: Every property looks the same, they usually have a great

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Speaker 1: bar on the top floor, and they normally rent for

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Speaker 1: less than one hundred dollars a night. They actually just

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Speaker 1: open their first US location in New York called Cloud One,

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Speaker 1: and it's supposedly going for around one hundred and fifty dollars. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I meant to mention this last week that I stayed

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Speaker 1: at the Delta Hotels in New York City. I forgot

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Speaker 1: to mention it. But yes, that was a great cheap chain.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. Richard and Calabasas says, I just want to

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01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: say how much I enjoy your show. I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: way you shared the latest tech news and explain the

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Speaker 1: more complicated stuff in a way that actually makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And I have to say you're patient with callers. Richard

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Speaker 1: listening on ninety nine nine FM ninety nine nine in Brooksville, Florida, says,

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Speaker 1: I listened to your weekend show and I really enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: It's very informative no matter what your tech level is.

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Speaker 1: Danielle listening in North Idaho says, I a door your newsletter.

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Speaker 1: I'd rank myself as below average tech savvy but not helpless,

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Speaker 1: and you make things easy to read and understand for

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Speaker 1: people like me. I learned something important in every issue,

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Speaker 1: so thank you for that. And Mike listens after Jazz

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Speaker 1: on eighty eight point one FM. I listened to the

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Speaker 1: show every Saturday night. I appreciate it and all the

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Speaker 1: info and insights. Even if there isn't a caller topic

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Speaker 1: about something I'm interested in at the moment, I always

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Speaker 1: end up learning something new I hadn't even thought about. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Mike. That is going to do it for

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Speaker 1: this episode of the show. If you want to write in,

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Speaker 1: you can do that at the website rich on tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv. You can find me on social media. I

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Speaker 1: am at rich on tech and of course links to

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Speaker 1: everything I mentioned is also on the website rich on

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Speaker 1: tech dot TV. Next week we've got led a shy

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Speaker 1: supervising editor at Wirecutter. They're gonna explain their Best New

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Speaker 1: Picks feature, which tells you all about their best new products.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways

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Speaker 1: you can spend your time. I really do appreciate you

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Speaker 1: spending it here with me. Please please do not text

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Speaker 1: and drive. Do not drive distracted. That can wait. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to everyone who makes this show possible. My name is

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Speaker 1: rich Demiro. I'll talk to you real soon