Speaker 1: All right, Hell I suck at Dating with Dean Angler
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, part of
Speaker 1: my uh annoyed temper today because I've just been um, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm very annoyed with one of our producers in studio
Speaker 1: right now. This is real and raw. She makes it
Speaker 1: seem like I have an opinion that that is taken
Speaker 1: into consideration in every turn, but in reality it's just
Speaker 1: really whatever she says goes and well, Dean, now I
Speaker 1: to defend the production staff of this show for a moment.
Speaker 1: When we say to you, Dean, what do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about on this show? I don't know. You
Speaker 1: don't really bring a lot to the table. You don't say, hey,
Speaker 1: I did this, we could talk about that. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: talk about that. So we try to give you ideas
Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't like those ideas. Well, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: a lot of times I don't like the ideas. Let see,
Speaker 1: so you have no ideas of your own, but you
Speaker 1: don't like our ideas. So then when where does that
Speaker 1: of us? I have a lot of ideas, but you
Speaker 1: guys shoot them down every single time. Go ahead, changing
Speaker 1: the name of the podcast for one budge on one thing,
Speaker 1: budge on one thing, and then I will begin to
Speaker 1: snowball and waterfall in some more ideas. Jessica makes a
Speaker 1: really good point about the title of the podcast. If
Speaker 1: I may dean funny story. I was at this guy's house.
Speaker 1: I just started seeing him. He was looking at something
Speaker 1: on my phone went out of nowhere. He just starts laughing.
Speaker 1: I'll like go over at him, and after a second,
Speaker 1: I hear your voice coming from my phone. He then goes,
Speaker 1: I accidentally started the podcast Help I Suck at Dating?
Speaker 1: And he kept laughing. He couldn't even breathe. Another friend
Speaker 1: of ours and laughing too. They both started making fun
Speaker 1: of me. How much I must suck at dating if
Speaker 1: I'm listening to a self help dating podcast. Now, whenever
Speaker 1: I do something related to dating, he says, oh did
Speaker 1: you learn that from Dean. As fun as the ongoing
Speaker 1: joke is, I vote in favor of a name change.
Speaker 1: Help Dating Sucks works fine, And maybe next time someone
Speaker 1: stumbles upon your podcast on my phone. Don't think I
Speaker 1: just agree that dating sucks now that I actually suck
Speaker 1: at dating love the podcast, Jessica. Well, Jessica, first and foremost,
Speaker 1: I apologize because the tyranny here at iHeart Radio will
Speaker 1: not allow the name of the podcast to change, no
Speaker 1: matter how much we lobby for it, and it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of frustrating sometimes and a lot of it Like
Speaker 1: I don't know what to talk about now because I
Speaker 1: still can't really be as open and honestly as I
Speaker 1: want to be for the next two or three weeks
Speaker 1: while the show hasn't even aired yet for Winter Games
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: it's like a weird, weird limbo phase right now. Well,
Speaker 1: let's could we end this podcast and start a new
Speaker 1: podcast with a different title. Yeah, all that costs money.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that cost money. Okay, we have
Speaker 1: a really nice looking logo. I can stay. Just change
Speaker 1: the words in it. Look, all we have to do
Speaker 1: is remove the eye and A put the dating in
Speaker 1: front of the suck, and then double the s put
Speaker 1: it at the end. Help dating sucks. Why isn't you
Speaker 1: heard it so much? Diners? Because A I think that
Speaker 1: only one percent of the people out there understand that
Speaker 1: it's a satirical title. No, be when I tell people
Speaker 1: what I do every Tuesday from noon to two pm,
Speaker 1: I would much feel feel much more comfortable saying I
Speaker 1: have a podcast named help Dating Sucks instead of help
Speaker 1: I Suck at Dating. See, maybe it's just a sense
Speaker 1: of a principle where you know, if I have an
Speaker 1: idea for the first time in the twenty weeks we've
Speaker 1: been doing this and it gets adopted and accepted, it
Speaker 1: made me feel more comfortable about this hole being a
Speaker 1: joint effort instead of me just kind of following my
Speaker 1: uh opinions blindly. There there could be Maybe there's a
Speaker 1: compromise to be found here. What if it became help
Speaker 1: Do you suck at dating? What's the difference? Well, that's
Speaker 1: not you, it's someone else. It's them, it's the listener.
Speaker 1: Do you suck a dating? That that's enough of a change,
Speaker 1: Like we can change it to that. Possibly I don't
Speaker 1: like that. You don't like that either? You want the
Speaker 1: words suck when you don't mind dating sucks? Because I
Speaker 1: don't want to make all about them. I'll still take
Speaker 1: some of it for myself. Okay, we have another proposal.
Speaker 1: Do we suck at dating? Help? Do we suck at dating? Why?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with help Dating sucks? I'm so confused with
Speaker 1: what's wrong with that one does. There's a little negative.
Speaker 1: Does there have to be like pinpointing whether it's you
Speaker 1: meet us. There has to be a pronoun in there somewhere?
Speaker 1: Are we married to pronouns as another corporation? Somebody else
Speaker 1: didn't make a point that dating sucks would be kind
Speaker 1: of a negative name for a podcast. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find that one. That's probably Amy's email. She sent it
Speaker 1: from here. It is dating sucks. This is Jenny Help
Speaker 1: dating Sucks. It sounds too negative, and you might be
Speaker 1: advertising there's just a podcast of people who hate romance.
Speaker 1: If you want to keep it similar the format of
Speaker 1: the current name, how about something like help Becoming Datable,
Speaker 1: or how to suck lass at Dating? What about that one,
Speaker 1: how to suck lass at Dating? Maybe that I like
Speaker 1: that one? Okay, all right, it's a it's a start.
Speaker 1: Well Dean smiling, that's a positive staff. I feel like
Speaker 1: I have a pizza in my in my teeth. Well,
Speaker 1: we got pizza from CPK. Was fantastic. It was cauliflower crust.
Speaker 1: Healthy too. It's like eating a vegetable. If I didn't
Speaker 1: know what was cauliflower crust, I would have said, boy,
Speaker 1: that crust is really good. I would have said that
Speaker 1: just out of nowhere, because I had noted in myself,
Speaker 1: that's really good crust. Turns out it's cauliflower really initiated.
Speaker 1: That's California Pizza Kitchen, right. I don't think they go
Speaker 1: with that anymore. I think, oh yeah, I guess they
Speaker 1: do it right there on the box, because sometimes these
Speaker 1: companies do that. They go to initials that you never
Speaker 1: ever hear again. What like KFC Kitchen Fresh Chicken. I
Speaker 1: sort that's what they changed it to. It's no more
Speaker 1: Kentucky Fried anyway, But forget about Kentucky Fried because CPK
Speaker 1: is here and it's delicious. Will you accept how to
Speaker 1: suck at Dating less? That's a little how to suck less?
Speaker 1: It dat Yoda if Yoda made a title how to
Speaker 1: suck less a dating is what Jenny proposed. Yeh, it's
Speaker 1: it's a step in the right direction. That's great, Thank you, Dean.
Speaker 1: Let's iterate upon that and figured it figure out exactly
Speaker 1: who want to do? Tell us about your week, because
Speaker 1: we're later than usual this week. What's been going on
Speaker 1: with you? It's Thursday already? Day? Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's been so long since I've seen you guys. It's
Speaker 1: been too long. What have you done this week? Have
Speaker 1: you gone out? What have I done this week? Spent
Speaker 1: the week in New or spent money to Wednesday in
Speaker 1: New York? Wow? What were you doing there? I went
Speaker 1: with Amanda Stanton, n Ashley, I and Eric Bigger out
Speaker 1: there for a an event with Lord and Taylor in
Speaker 1: the league. H It's funny enough. We were giving out
Speaker 1: dating advice and fashion advice for for some New York
Speaker 1: locals out there. Um went to the beach a bunch
Speaker 1: this weekend with some friends. Is it too cold to
Speaker 1: go to the beach? I mean it's jary, It was
Speaker 1: like in the eighties. Was actually nice? Um. We had
Speaker 1: a whig party for one of my bald friends. He
Speaker 1: turned twenty seven, so we all decided to wear wigs
Speaker 1: and have a surprise birthday party for him. Is he
Speaker 1: bald by choice or bald by nature or bald by illness?
Speaker 1: Kind of one of those things where he was balding
Speaker 1: as a young early twenties individual and decided to just
Speaker 1: kind of take it around with it and shaved his
Speaker 1: head bald and now he kind of accepts it, you know.
Speaker 1: Smalled by choice, but by necessity is I know a
Speaker 1: guy who in high school lost it, just went completely bald,
Speaker 1: and now he wears a wig. But it's a very
Speaker 1: high end wig because there's something about being in con
Speaker 1: troll of a situation that makes you feel more comfortable
Speaker 1: about it. Wig maybe not so much. But what what
Speaker 1: would you do? Like, I have a I have a
Speaker 1: bald spot. Uh if you got that, would you have
Speaker 1: an issue with that? Would you shave your head? I
Speaker 1: shipped my head bald last year, last October, like a
Speaker 1: year and a half ago. For what reason? Um? There
Speaker 1: were multiple reasons. One reason there were dynamics. I was
Speaker 1: I was trying to actually qualify for the Summer Olympics. Um,
Speaker 1: I just got a mole removed on the side of
Speaker 1: my head that I always thought was really unsightly, and
Speaker 1: it was like it was like you could see it
Speaker 1: through the hair sometimes, And I was like, I always
Speaker 1: want to be bald, but I didn't want this mole
Speaker 1: to be stick. Now, UM, I don't know. My mom
Speaker 1: was bald for a long time, so what what would
Speaker 1: it be like to be bald? You know? So there's
Speaker 1: like a lot of things that was like yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I was just like, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna do it. And so I took the clippers and
Speaker 1: and bused the line through my hair and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, there's no turning back now. And it was
Speaker 1: honestly horrible experience. I looked hideous for two or three months. Um,
Speaker 1: but what else? And then you don't have the head
Speaker 1: for it, all the shape the cranium, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't, I don't know. I think my
Speaker 1: ears are weird, yeah, And I think that one of
Speaker 1: my best physical qualities is my hair. And so when
Speaker 1: I lose that, like if I if I was bald
Speaker 1: ahead brown eyes, I probably would never know it even
Speaker 1: look twice at me. That's not true, Dean, some people
Speaker 1: pull up brown eyes. I'm just saying, everything else on
Speaker 1: my face is is unsightly, like my nose, my lips,
Speaker 1: my cheeks, all that kind of stuff. But it's it's
Speaker 1: but it gets brought up a little bit higher because
Speaker 1: of the blue eyes and because of the flow hair.
Speaker 1: You're saying, flowy hair and blue eyes like the draw
Speaker 1: for you, those are your best features and you and
Speaker 1: you're proud of those, and you feel like that's what
Speaker 1: gets people attracted to. But if you look past the
Speaker 1: blue eyes and the hair, there's not much going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a weird conversation because I don't
Speaker 1: want to sit here and reassure you that you're attracted.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot going on. Um not,
Speaker 1: I think, But it's because you lost in the eyes
Speaker 1: and the hair, and now you're a heterosexual female. Imagine
Speaker 1: Dean different hair, brown eyes, green eyes, whatever, but not
Speaker 1: such striking eyes. Problem is, I think I've seen you
Speaker 1: the photos. It's not awesome. Okay, it's admittedly not awesome,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, the rest of your face is fine.
Speaker 1: But maybe I think you just proved his point that
Speaker 1: without his hair in his eyes, he's an average looking guy.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you'll have nice hand scanning. That's a
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, but that fades. Oh well, sorry, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, bald his tan face. But this is interesting.
Speaker 1: It's that everybody has these insecurities about their own physical appearance,
Speaker 1: even somebody who seems to the outsider as handsome as
Speaker 1: Dean Anglert. He doesn't even like his it knows, his
Speaker 1: mouth with his Chinn's ears, whatever it is. But everybody
Speaker 1: has that. You're so used to your own features, you
Speaker 1: don't know how beautiful you really are. Oh, but it's
Speaker 1: probably true, George Clooney, I don't know, Jaselle Bunschen. They
Speaker 1: probably look in the mirror and they're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't like how my nose is or that. You know,
Speaker 1: don't you think it's when I look back to do
Speaker 1: you guys ever play like Madden? They're like NBA two
Speaker 1: K or anything. You can create a player and like
Speaker 1: give him a name, give them number, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, And like every time I would create a player,
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks into playing with that player,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sick of the way this guy looks.
Speaker 1: But then it's like, you can't do that in real life.
Speaker 1: Like you look at the mirror every single day for
Speaker 1: twenty six years. You're like, I'm sick the way this
Speaker 1: guy looks. Beard, I can't grow must you can't me neither? Yeah,
Speaker 1: never look at that podcast stuff here everyone. Hey, we
Speaker 1: got a lot of emails about the opening lines to
Speaker 1: use on a dating app. Erica is so much Yes,
Speaker 1: Eric is on a bunch of these. Erica is the
Speaker 1: one that told us about the the gift, the sub
Speaker 1: seal seal and you know what, it's been working pretty well.
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, I've gotten a lot of responses Erica did
Speaker 1: had a date last night that you did not bother
Speaker 1: to go to. I didn't like stand him up, like
Speaker 1: I told him, I didn't feel well feeling. What she
Speaker 1: knows is bogus, right, he knows at I don't know.
Speaker 1: We haven't talked since. He said, I'm so sorry, let
Speaker 1: me know when you're feeling better, And you said, why
Speaker 1: did you decide to bail? I just was not into it,
Speaker 1: like at all, Like I just didn't want to go.
Speaker 1: I think it's also because this thing happens when you're
Speaker 1: on dating apps where you're talking to one person who
Speaker 1: you like more than anyone else you're talking to, and
Speaker 1: so you feel like until you meet that person, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't go out with anyone else. So you're you're focused
Speaker 1: too much on one guy in the app, and like
Speaker 1: that is not a good strategy, that's not the point
Speaker 1: of the apps. I encourage you to go out with
Speaker 1: the guy last night, just because I feel like it's
Speaker 1: good to stay in the game, into practice dating. I've
Speaker 1: been so out of the game so long it does,
Speaker 1: I don't have to stay and thinking that's why you
Speaker 1: got to get get in there a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: good to get some reps in, you know what I mean. Practice.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's another time. That is an interesting point that
Speaker 1: you make though, with there being one person that you
Speaker 1: really want to go on a date with, and then
Speaker 1: until you get that date, you're kind of like, I
Speaker 1: don't really have to go on any other date until
Speaker 1: why waste my time If I'm still talking to this
Speaker 1: other guy, which you are, which I am, what's inhibiting
Speaker 1: you from going on a date with that guy? So
Speaker 1: he lives in San Diego just kind of problematic because
Speaker 1: to them he was in l A going to Australia.
Speaker 1: He was in Australia for two weeks. I hope he
Speaker 1: doesn't listen to this show. And then he just got
Speaker 1: back and I was going to Lake Ta. That's just
Speaker 1: selfish when you're travel late. He's gonna La Tallo this weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my oh for him? So what's interesting about this guy?
Speaker 1: And she showed me the pictures of him, and he's
Speaker 1: a very good looking guy, but she was concerned about
Speaker 1: his height, which and I say this because we tend
Speaker 1: to really nitpick these photos on these dating apps because
Speaker 1: there's really no evidence as you scroll through that he's short.
Speaker 1: He's standing with other guys, he seems to be the
Speaker 1: same height as all the other guys he hangs out with.
Speaker 1: This really new evidence. But she just had a feeling
Speaker 1: he might not be tall enough for her, liking, how
Speaker 1: tall are you? I'm five seven, but like five eight
Speaker 1: on a good day, so I'm kind of tall for
Speaker 1: a girl. Okay, but still she at least meet hill.
Speaker 1: We older enough to meet the guy before we make
Speaker 1: these kinds of judgments about it. I think I could
Speaker 1: be a pretty good authority on whether he's tall or not. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's bring him on. Let's find out was he staying
Speaker 1: next to like, you must be this tall? To write like,
Speaker 1: what are you using his reference for his height? I'm
Speaker 1: just using I don't other people, But like, he sent
Speaker 1: me a photo from Australia and he's taller than all
Speaker 1: the girls in the picture, So, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I should be that concern. Whenever I meet someone
Speaker 1: in real life, they're always like, you, look, you're so
Speaker 1: much taller than I expect you to be. That was
Speaker 1: my first impression of you. Yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: Did I don't. Did I come across as short on television?
Speaker 1: In my Instagram profile? Maybe? So, I don't know. That
Speaker 1: is interesting. You're on his Facebook. We are not. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at his profile picture on Facebook. He's the one.
Speaker 1: He's cute. That's what I said. I like to believe
Speaker 1: I can match with cute men. Uh. I'm glad he
Speaker 1: got out of his high school phase. This is back.
Speaker 1: He doesn't love it, and you're probably really far into it.
Speaker 1: He's short, he's probably five ten okay, gay closed. Five
Speaker 1: ten is not a deal breaker for me. Five nine
Speaker 1: is a deal breaker. Yeah. Yeah, if he's the perfect guy,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say no because of an inch, because right
Speaker 1: now you can wear two inch pumps. But Eric, Erica,
Speaker 1: that was that was that was? That was good? Did
Speaker 1: you guys plan that before you came in. Maddie has
Speaker 1: an idea for opening lines. First of all, she thinks
Speaker 1: we should bring back the term going steady. I love
Speaker 1: that term. I used that when I was in the
Speaker 1: dating game, and actually when I would ask a girl
Speaker 1: to go steady, I would give her a pin what
Speaker 1: a pen? Yeah, which is like straight out of the fifties,
Speaker 1: isn't it straight out of the fifties? You give him
Speaker 1: your let him in jacket. I don't play sports, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would give them I would buy a pin.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to give him your like class pin, but
Speaker 1: my school didn't do that because it was two thou
Speaker 1: and two. So I just bought a pin and I
Speaker 1: would give it to him and say, do you want
Speaker 1: a goot? You know, hey, Becky, we've been having a
Speaker 1: lot of fun together. I would like if you went
Speaker 1: steady with me. Catches them off guard. They usually say yes,
Speaker 1: accidentally end up in a relationship. Then I make a
Speaker 1: miserable for a couple more weeks. And Maddie, spending time
Speaker 1: with someone going out is in my opinion, dating, But
Speaker 1: there's not really a word right now in our culture
Speaker 1: that's used for when that dating relationship gets more serious
Speaker 1: and has more intentionality. Nice word there, Maddie. That's why
Speaker 1: I think we need to bring back going steady makes
Speaker 1: it sound like there was intentionality and it's more than
Speaker 1: two people just casually spending time together. Lastly, the best
Speaker 1: opening line and started conversation on a dating app is
Speaker 1: two truths and a lie go it's not bad once
Speaker 1: they respond to try to guess which one is a
Speaker 1: lie and off at leads to a conversation. We talked
Speaker 1: about the true things. I like that. So what she's
Speaker 1: saying is the going steady is the bridge between dating
Speaker 1: and boyfriend girlfriend? Just to cover that one first, is
Speaker 1: it or is it boyfriend girlfriend? I think it made
Speaker 1: a replace his boyfriend girlfriend. The problem I always ran
Speaker 1: into is that there needs to be like a you
Speaker 1: need to like schedule a meeting and deliberations for when
Speaker 1: you when you get to call someone your girlfriend you know.
Speaker 1: And always thought it was such a weird thing because
Speaker 1: you always feel like a nerd going like so I felt,
Speaker 1: if you, if you make it about going steady, because
Speaker 1: it's such an old term, it makes it kind of fun.
Speaker 1: It takes the pressure off of it, and also it
Speaker 1: lets them know what your intentions are. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: a man. Study I think I would want to hit
Speaker 1: the brakes. I don't know. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is oversharing. I don't know if I'm gonna get scrutinized
Speaker 1: for this, But in a relationship recently that I may
Speaker 1: be currently in hypothetically, hypothetically, there was the dating phase
Speaker 1: that was going on and then all of a sud well,
Speaker 1: not all of a sudden, but like after a couple
Speaker 1: of days of like culminating and thinking and like deciding.
Speaker 1: I'm not deciding, but like just thinking things over. I
Speaker 1: just went into it. Woke up one morning and just
Speaker 1: started calling with my girlfriend. And it almost like didn't
Speaker 1: really give her the chance to be like I don't
Speaker 1: want to be not like that. She could, she was
Speaker 1: gonna say, but it's like instead of instead of by
Speaker 1: avoiding the conversation to be like are you my girlfriend?
Speaker 1: Or do you want to be my girlfriend? That kind
Speaker 1: of thing, I was just like, hey, my girlfriend needs
Speaker 1: a glass of water. I'm gonna get her one real quick,
Speaker 1: called her back like that kind of thing. And then
Speaker 1: she heard me say that she was my girlfriend enough
Speaker 1: times and then she was just like his girlfriend. And
Speaker 1: here's why that's correct. I think it's fantastic because there's
Speaker 1: always weirdness and nobody knows, and now you've told her,
Speaker 1: and now she doesn't have to ask, she doesn't have
Speaker 1: to wonder, she didn't have to have the conversation. There's
Speaker 1: a girl on our staff. I don't want to name her,
Speaker 1: but remember she was in the early part of her relationship,
Speaker 1: wasn't sure and they were out shopping with some other
Speaker 1: friends and he kind of came up behind her and
Speaker 1: put her shoulder and said, uh, touched her head and said,
Speaker 1: is this my girlfriend? Nope, that's not my girlfriend. This
Speaker 1: is my Girlfriend's the first time we've ever said the
Speaker 1: word before, and she was like, oh, I'm his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: She was happy to hear it, and then she was like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I should still have the conversation. No, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want The guys don't want that conversation.
Speaker 1: He's saying that very intentionally, like you did. You said
Speaker 1: it very intentionally, because the girl's always like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: he just saying that. Maybe he didn't think about it. No,
Speaker 1: the guys thought about it. If he's going to drop
Speaker 1: that word, it's very intentional and he has given it thought,
Speaker 1: accept it, embrace it, and move forward. And they're obviously
Speaker 1: certain circumstances where you can do it, like if you're
Speaker 1: only only been on a few dates with someone and
Speaker 1: you're not clearly exclusive like in this case, we were
Speaker 1: very clearly exclusive exclusive, and I didn't I hate. I
Speaker 1: hate the arbitrary dating thing. So it's like if you
Speaker 1: go out to a bar, um you can't say I
Speaker 1: have a girlfriend. If you guys haven't kind of labeled
Speaker 1: yourself with a boyfriend girlfriend yet, so it kind of
Speaker 1: gives you the opportunity to be like, this is what
Speaker 1: we are, this is the label that we have now. Um,
Speaker 1: it says so much. It says I'm not seeing anyone else.
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to see anyone else. This is a
Speaker 1: thing now, Erica, You've welcome to China. Basis the way
Speaker 1: that you said you're not allowed to see anyone. You
Speaker 1: are my property. But I guess if she had a
Speaker 1: problem with it, she would have said, yes, yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: You're not allowed in the sense that if you do,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be able. I'm gonna be hurt if you do.
Speaker 1: And that was a tricky thing too. I think I
Speaker 1: had to say the word girlfriend about ten times before
Speaker 1: I first heard the word boyfriend back. So it was
Speaker 1: just a matter of but it's safe. It's safer than
Speaker 1: like and I love you or something like that. Why,
Speaker 1: she's a big one and a major You need a
Speaker 1: response to that girlfriend. You don't even need a response. Well,
Speaker 1: I think for for situation too, it was more like
Speaker 1: I would say that she the first nine times she
Speaker 1: heard the word girlfriend, she was just like, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: just joking around. He's just like being a goof. But
Speaker 1: in the tenth time she heard it, she's like, that's
Speaker 1: the one. That's so. You never talked about it. You
Speaker 1: just heard her say boyfriend, and that's when you knew
Speaker 1: that it was heard and accepted. We talked about it
Speaker 1: after the fact. She was like, why did you start
Speaker 1: calling your girlfriend one day? And I was like, I
Speaker 1: wanted you to be my girlfriend, and I didn't really
Speaker 1: know how it was to go about asking you to be,
Speaker 1: so I just started calling it you with my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: and thank you for going along with it. I think
Speaker 1: that's great. I don't know if ABC's gonna asume me
Speaker 1: for this, for the hypothetical relationship that you're not even
Speaker 1: really in as far as we know, Yes, right, I
Speaker 1: mean that's what I'm saying. We're saying, in a hypothetical relationship,
Speaker 1: that would be cool thing. We'll talk about it more
Speaker 1: some other time. I can't wait. Here's another opening line suggestion,
Speaker 1: Oh where did it go? Here? It is this is Kelsey.
Speaker 1: This is her favorite opening line, and she says it's
Speaker 1: actually hooked a dude. It only last at about three weeks,
Speaker 1: but this did create success. She said to him, have
Speaker 1: you heard the joke about the butter? And he responded no,
Speaker 1: and she said, well, I don't want to spread it.
Speaker 1: I would not know. It sounds like butter is a
Speaker 1: venereal disease in this case, and that's what they're trying
Speaker 1: to avoid. Really, that one doesn't work quite as well.
Speaker 1: Kelsey said that one worked to I don't want to
Speaker 1: spread it? Well, then why would she ask him if
Speaker 1: he had heard about the butter in the first place.
Speaker 1: It's a nice breaker. I understand it's an ice breaker,
Speaker 1: but she could that. She goes, I don't want to
Speaker 1: spread it, and he goes, ha ha ha or l
Speaker 1: o l It could be a whole lot butter. Though,
Speaker 1: if you ask me, I think you and Kelsey are
Speaker 1: a perfect anyway. So Erica, so just the sub sal
Speaker 1: you're experimenting with other gifts, Oh, no, strict please up,
Speaker 1: whatever works, because I think it's like funny and like,
Speaker 1: why is an animal raising his hand at you? Right?
Speaker 1: I had a whole conversation actually with this boy in
Speaker 1: San Diego. The whole conversation was sub seal, and then
Speaker 1: he sent a cat sliding in sanks up and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, it's pretty weird that there
Speaker 1: is actual video footage of these animals doing these things.
Speaker 1: How do you get out of the gift? Have you
Speaker 1: exchanged words or has it been Uh no, we've been
Speaker 1: talking for weeks now, I can I don't know what
Speaker 1: we started talking about. Let me don't mind a ful
Speaker 1: conversation with only gifts, but at some point, at some point,
Speaker 1: you don't have to. Um, I look at that. I
Speaker 1: have messages on bumble that because I haven't been on here,
Speaker 1: because i've been I've exchanged numbers with this person. Um,
Speaker 1: who do you have messages from? I don't know. Two
Speaker 1: boys shorty Shorty McGee. No, he's what I've exchanged short face. No,
Speaker 1: I haven't answered his last text from last night. Just
Speaker 1: playing the game here. So he has your number? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we texting he got back from Australia. Any text with
Speaker 1: the guy you blew off last night? Yeah? Okay, so
Speaker 1: these are new people. Yeah. By the way, how we
Speaker 1: got out of the gift thing was he said, so
Speaker 1: what are you up to today? Oh? And then we
Speaker 1: just started talking. I still hate the gift as a
Speaker 1: first message. I just I can't. There's nowhere to go
Speaker 1: from there. It's it's basically doing. There's something of saying, hey, okay,
Speaker 1: what do you want? Like an essay on why you
Speaker 1: should talk to me? So what do you think? What
Speaker 1: do you what? What would work? What would be funny?
Speaker 1: You don't like the punch, you don't like the gifts?
Speaker 1: Can I react to with my bubble? Go back to
Speaker 1: when I was on it two years ago and see
Speaker 1: which messages I enjoyed them. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can do that or not. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: don't know about that database. But um, well, if there
Speaker 1: are any mail listeners for this podcast, which we have
Speaker 1: had a few, we've had a few men calling and
Speaker 1: email in all that kind of stuff. Um, but say
Speaker 1: you're looking for a gift or your sister, for your
Speaker 1: mom um, whoever it is for Valentine's Day, because you know,
Speaker 1: just because you're not you might not be dating someone
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you don't have to give him a
Speaker 1: gift on Valentine's Day. Where you can get your girlfriend
Speaker 1: clothes but I'm saying, as a female listener of this podcast,
Speaker 1: trying to plug a female clothing store right right, right,
Speaker 1: just because it's Valentine'sday doesn't mean you can't get like
Speaker 1: your mother, gift your sister, gift Galantine's Day, Galantine's they get.
Speaker 1: Spoil yourself, I mean threat up. With these prices, you'd
Speaker 1: be still not too yes and leave it to mark
Speaker 1: to to look at it selfishly, spoil yourself. You get
Speaker 1: something for you. Valentine's Day is coming up, Galantine's Day
Speaker 1: is coming up. Uh. You can definitely go on threat
Speaker 1: up dot com and peruse their section. It's basically going
Speaker 1: to an online thrift store. I'm on threat up dot
Speaker 1: com right now, and it's really amazing these prices, because
Speaker 1: I mean, thrift stores are such a great deal. But
Speaker 1: when you walk into one, it's a little daunting. There's
Speaker 1: so much in that place, and you don't know where
Speaker 1: to start summer in pile somewhere on racks. But when
Speaker 1: you go to threat up dot com, it's so simple.
Speaker 1: You can go wherever you want. I want a blue shirt,
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Speaker 1: They got jackets, they got sweaters from four dollars, they
Speaker 1: got dressed from eight dollars, handbags from twelve dollars, designer
Speaker 1: designer shoes, handbags from ten dollars. So it's basically just
Speaker 1: going to like a regular e commerce shopping site, but
Speaker 1: you're getting off of off is what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: In thirty five thousand brands. Imagine that thrift store. You
Speaker 1: walk into a thirty five thousand brands, you turn around,
Speaker 1: you walk right out. I can't handle that, But this
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Speaker 1: Don't wait another minute, don't Thanks for guiding us through that, Mark,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, It's been my pleasure's emails. I
Speaker 1: picked this one because I can relate to it. Hi
Speaker 1: did and Mark and Erica and I wanted your opinion
Speaker 1: on my current relationship. I've been dating the same guy
Speaker 1: for two and a half years. I'm twenty five, he's thirty,
Speaker 1: and I love him, but things have never been easy.
Speaker 1: We've had to work through a lot of differences in opinion.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want kids. I do. He wants to be
Speaker 1: a pastor, and I'm not interested in being a pastor's wife.
Speaker 1: Though we are both religious, he's very conservative, I'm more
Speaker 1: on the liberal side. I know opposites a track, but
Speaker 1: we have had to have some real conversations and make
Speaker 1: some real changes to work through all these things. We're
Speaker 1: doing great right now, but I can't help wondering when
Speaker 1: the next this agreement is coming. I'm scared to walk
Speaker 1: away and start over, even though we don't live together
Speaker 1: or anything, and it would be a clean break. We're
Speaker 1: definitely in a spot to take the next step in
Speaker 1: our relationship, but I'm so nervous. I could see myself
Speaker 1: spending the rest of my life with him, but is
Speaker 1: it possible to be sure? Is it just cold feet?
Speaker 1: I'm not big on commitments, so maybe that's it. Love
Speaker 1: the show and Dean congra outs on your new secret relationship.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Selena, But that is hypothetical, Yes, the hypothetically
Speaker 1: secret relationship. I picked this one because I when my
Speaker 1: wife and I were first dating a long, long time ago,
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, she was very religious and I am
Speaker 1: not very religious, and we were able to bridge that gap.
Speaker 1: And the main way that we did is is by
Speaker 1: respecting each other's views. Um, she didn't love it at
Speaker 1: first that I wasn't a religious person, but I would
Speaker 1: go to church with her to this day. Uh, from
Speaker 1: time to time we all go to church together as
Speaker 1: a family with the two kids. So it's it's all
Speaker 1: about respecting each other's opinions and not if I were
Speaker 1: making fun of her or criticizing her beliefs or vice versa,
Speaker 1: that's never gonna work. But as long as you respect
Speaker 1: with the other person believes in. However, that was a
Speaker 1: way we were able to bridge it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot here that you disagree on. My thing
Speaker 1: with this is she saying that she wants kids and
Speaker 1: him saying he doesn't want kids. I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a big hurdle for them. That alone is a
Speaker 1: major problem. Yeah. I don't think it's obviously not first
Speaker 1: hand or second hand experience, but I think I've heard
Speaker 1: stories where, um, it's very similar to this, Like they
Speaker 1: love each other, one wants kids, one doesn't want kids.
Speaker 1: The one that wants kids thinks that eventually the other
Speaker 1: one will want kids. He turns out not to want
Speaker 1: kids ten twenty years from now, Um, and then she has,
Speaker 1: you know, incredible like remorse and regret for not every
Speaker 1: really being able to have those children. Um. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of that's a big that's a big,
Speaker 1: big deal. It is because you're always going to want kids.
Speaker 1: That's not going to change and even if he does
Speaker 1: change his mind, he may not be the dad you
Speaker 1: want him to be if he's not a guy that
Speaker 1: wanted kids in the first place. Then there's the religious
Speaker 1: different it says. Then there's the political differences, which there
Speaker 1: have been times in the history of America where that
Speaker 1: was something you could overcome. But nowadays, if one of
Speaker 1: you is really into Donald Trump and one of you
Speaker 1: really really is not into Donald Trump, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how to make that work. As silly as that may seem,
Speaker 1: it's just politics. Who cares, right, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: fundamental differences here as it dominates the headlines every single day. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you don't have a daily argument
Speaker 1: about what Trump is up to? What about the angel argument?
Speaker 1: Opposites attract and she she mentions that in there that
Speaker 1: works with she's a little bit country, I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit more rock and roll. I don't think it works
Speaker 1: something like this. This is beyond that. I mean, I agree,
Speaker 1: but she did say that she's in love. She is
Speaker 1: in love two and a half years Erica. What do
Speaker 1: you think here? I think this is awful and get out.
Speaker 1: Why are you if you don't want to be a
Speaker 1: pastor's wife and he wants to be a pastor. That
Speaker 1: to me is the biggest problem. I could never be
Speaker 1: a pastor's wife. That is just that is a role.
Speaker 1: That is not like being, you know, a maleman's wife.
Speaker 1: The pastor's wife is a role, right, Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: big deals. That's funny. Do you ever I guess you
Speaker 1: even not remember. But Milania Trump when when Trump was
Speaker 1: elected president, he she was like I heard sobbing, like uncontrollable.
Speaker 1: She was like, I never expected him to actually win,
Speaker 1: right because the first ladies a role, right, And maybe
Speaker 1: she didn't. Yeah, my gut is two and a half years,
Speaker 1: you don't live together. It's a clean break. It might
Speaker 1: be time to make that break, and if it's meant
Speaker 1: to be, you will find your way back to each
Speaker 1: other and the compromises will be found. Unless Market I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: unless East disagrees. I think we have a clear consensus.
Speaker 1: I'm on board. Get away from him right now, call
Speaker 1: him up and right now, put this podcast on pause,
Speaker 1: and then resume the rest of it once you're done
Speaker 1: with the phone call. Ah, this is I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how to pronounce this one. I'm gonna I'm gonna guess
Speaker 1: it's Oh, let's just go with this one. This is easier.
Speaker 1: It's just from m M. I'm nineteen, pretty young, have
Speaker 1: next to nodating experience. This isn't really a source of
Speaker 1: angst for me, and that's what's kind of my issue.
Speaker 1: I think about the nebulous future. I would like to
Speaker 1: one day have someone to spend it with. But my
Speaker 1: problem is I have absolutely no desire to date. It's
Speaker 1: not fear of putting myself out there. It's more like
Speaker 1: I think about dating and I really can't imagine it
Speaker 1: being something I want to do. I'm a sophomore in college,
Speaker 1: a very rigorous school, super busy all the time, focusing
Speaker 1: on myself, also quite introverted, as we talked about last week,
Speaker 1: and don't enjoy meeting new people, though I'm actually pretty
Speaker 1: good with introduction and conversations. How do I get over this?
Speaker 1: I've been in a few dates. I don't even have
Speaker 1: the experience to say if I like it or not.
Speaker 1: Should I just wait and see if one day I
Speaker 1: want to try it, or should I bite the bullet
Speaker 1: and make myself try? Help make yourself try? M. That's
Speaker 1: funny because I can empathize with her being an introvert
Speaker 1: but being good with introductions and conversations, because I think
Speaker 1: we talked about that last week in the same way.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean nineteen super young? Were you you
Speaker 1: guys real all dating at nineteen? Right? Yeah? But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I like em and I feel like M's
Speaker 1: doing it right. I don't know, am I crazy? I
Speaker 1: feel like she's focused on herself and school, and when
Speaker 1: you're nineteen, that's what you want to focus on, and
Speaker 1: it will happen. A guy is going to come and
Speaker 1: ask you out and sweep you off your feet. I
Speaker 1: would never I would never advise anyone to put school
Speaker 1: in a back seat for dating. I think the fact
Speaker 1: that she's going to a rigor school and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, that's and that's her priority. I think
Speaker 1: that's important. I think she should sick with that. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like if she feels so
Speaker 1: compelled to want to date someone, but I see, that's
Speaker 1: the thing is she doesn't. But I also think using
Speaker 1: the excuse of I'm so busy, like really, that sets
Speaker 1: you up for the rest of your life. I am
Speaker 1: so busy and I use that every day in my life.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go date because of it. So
Speaker 1: she's setting herself up for being almost twenty five and
Speaker 1: not wanting to go on dates. So you're saying, look
Speaker 1: at me so much better than this. But I guess
Speaker 1: the point that I'm trying to make is that it
Speaker 1: does it clearly bothers her that she's not dating. Well,
Speaker 1: she wrote the emails, and if it bothers her that much,
Speaker 1: she should date. But she should never compromise anything else,
Speaker 1: like her school or herself or her own She doesn't
Speaker 1: have to quit well not. But like I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: if she thinks going to a party or something will
Speaker 1: allow her to start dating, but that's going to like
Speaker 1: sacrifice or doing her homework or something like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't like her going on tender bumble hinge, so
Speaker 1: do you guys. I mean, I don't like that much
Speaker 1: effort into it. I think that's a lot of time consumption,
Speaker 1: and for someone that doesn't already have a lot of time.
Speaker 1: I also think that if we focus on ourselves, we
Speaker 1: become better people. For which what is that? Sorry people
Speaker 1: tell us all the time, and it's like, I know
Speaker 1: plenty of really really awesome self aware of people, including myself,
Speaker 1: who are single. Okay, I just feel like when you're nineteen,
Speaker 1: she's still kind of becoming the woman she's going to
Speaker 1: be and focusing on herself as a positive thing, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be a great thing one day for
Speaker 1: the guy that she meets and falls in love with.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's two ways. There's two sides to it.
Speaker 1: I guess do you think that someone that is very
Speaker 1: clearly understanding of like who they are as a person
Speaker 1: is easier to date than someone that's kind of more
Speaker 1: like a blank canvas still trying to figure themselves out,
Speaker 1: Because then for the person that they're dating, they're they're
Speaker 1: able to have like these opinions and influences on that person.
Speaker 1: Otherwise they're willing to bend and kind of like change
Speaker 1: themselves a little bit too to make the other person happy.
Speaker 1: So like there's there's kind of like two sides to
Speaker 1: that story. You know, Like if she's investing in herself,
Speaker 1: then what she's gonna do, She's gonna come out of
Speaker 1: it more self aware, more understanding of who she is
Speaker 1: and what she wants. But that also kind of narrows
Speaker 1: down the pool for her because she's going to have
Speaker 1: a smaller sliver of the people that she's gonna be
Speaker 1: interested in, versus if she is going on more dates,
Speaker 1: she's gonna be like experiencing more things and like understanding
Speaker 1: that relationships a tway street where she has to give
Speaker 1: some of herself and get some of them, all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So I'm just saying there's two sides
Speaker 1: to it in a sense. True, that was really insightful. Thanks,
Speaker 1: that's my one thing. Yeah, And I think I think,
Speaker 1: of course, no, I think Mark had an answer for her.
Speaker 1: That's my answer to keep doing you. I honestly think
Speaker 1: I think that she. I think your wise. I think
Speaker 1: she should stay off dating apps all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: And I think that she shouldn't dwell on the negative
Speaker 1: of not going on dates, but she also shouldn't shy
Speaker 1: away from any possibility of going on one. In college, too,
Speaker 1: you're surrounded by guys. Some of the guys gonna ask
Speaker 1: you out, or you're gonna get interested in the guy,
Speaker 1: find yourself having feelings, and this will all blossom. And
Speaker 1: here's the deal with college. You're in college for four years,
Speaker 1: in my case five years. You don't get another opportunity
Speaker 1: like that again in your life. It's like it's an
Speaker 1: opportunity where, yes, of course you have to work hard
Speaker 1: to go to school get good grade so you can
Speaker 1: have a good career, but it's also a time where
Speaker 1: you can like explore yourself and like figure out and
Speaker 1: like have fun and obviously like be like a little
Speaker 1: bit less inhividit than you're gonna have to be later
Speaker 1: on in life. Kendall writes, Hi, Dean Mark and Easton
Speaker 1: and I love your podcasts and when one of your
Speaker 1: early podcasts you mentioned you were in areas, and so
Speaker 1: am I and ever since then, I totally relate to
Speaker 1: what you have to say and the way you view things.
Speaker 1: So maybe we should all maybe they should know what
Speaker 1: we all are so they can relate to all of us. Erica,
Speaker 1: You're an area eastern Scorpio and I'm a cancer, just
Speaker 1: so everyone knows. I've been in a relationship almost five years.
Speaker 1: We started dating in college, hit it off right away.
Speaker 1: Our relationship has been great. I definitely see a future
Speaker 1: with him. I'm almost twenty four, about to start my
Speaker 1: career in the next chapter of my life. He's twenty seven,
Speaker 1: and it's having a more difficult time finding what he
Speaker 1: wants to do with his career. I feel this is
Speaker 1: hindering him from wanting to make the next step in
Speaker 1: our relationship, moving in together, engagement, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you need all this right away, but
Speaker 1: I want to know that this is something he will
Speaker 1: want as well. My question is do you think a
Speaker 1: person needs to be settled in their career, life and
Speaker 1: financially in order to make the next big step in
Speaker 1: a relationship. Thank you for your time. Keep providing us
Speaker 1: with excellent podcasts to listen to. That's Kendall with One
Speaker 1: L Coming with One L. Yeah. I don't want to
Speaker 1: feel that one right away because I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: the least authoritative on that subject. All right. I think
Speaker 1: I'm pretty authoritative on it actually because um and maybe
Speaker 1: just because I always do. But I was dating my
Speaker 1: wife who was very young. We started dating she was
Speaker 1: eighteen and I was twenty six, and so it was
Speaker 1: now at this point she was twenty two when I
Speaker 1: was thirty, and I was not by any stretch where
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in my career. In fact, in fact,
Speaker 1: I was working at Disneyland doing what hosting the who
Speaker 1: wants to be a Millionaire show at Disney's California Adventure,
Speaker 1: which was a great By the way, that was the
Speaker 1: best job I've ever had in my life without any
Speaker 1: questions to date, and because it was nothing but fun. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the point is that I knew that wasn't a long
Speaker 1: term position. It was a show. It was gonna end,
Speaker 1: and that would be that. So I wasn't where I
Speaker 1: wanted to be. I didn't have any money. She was
Speaker 1: about to start going to more Park College UH an
Speaker 1: animal training program they have which is really neat but
Speaker 1: really intensive for two years. It was not the time
Speaker 1: for me to propose, but I had to because there
Speaker 1: was no question in my mind that we were going
Speaker 1: to be together forever. So I even in the speech
Speaker 1: I gave her when I proposed, which she probably didn't
Speaker 1: really understand because I was crying. Um, I was a mess.
Speaker 1: But what I was saying was I know that we're
Speaker 1: not where we want to be financially, professionally, anything, but
Speaker 1: I don't care about any of that because I just
Speaker 1: want to be with you forever. So I guess my
Speaker 1: point is in his mind, he may be thinking that way,
Speaker 1: but I hope he's not, because if he's sure about you,
Speaker 1: that that's all that should matter. It shouldn't matter what
Speaker 1: kind of situation your careers are in. That's my opinion
Speaker 1: as far as advice for you. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how you have the conversation with him, because that's
Speaker 1: kind of an awkward thing to bring up. But that
Speaker 1: may be where his head is, that he does want
Speaker 1: to marry her, or that he needs some time. He
Speaker 1: may feel like I can't go to her dad and
Speaker 1: say I want her hand in marriage when he's in debt,
Speaker 1: or he's Did you go to Amy's father and he
Speaker 1: was okay with it? Yes, he's very nice about him,
Speaker 1: even though I was so much older and had long hair.
Speaker 1: I think I think generally speaking, the person you guys
Speaker 1: don't need to be settled in your career. I think
Speaker 1: it's kind of silly to say, like you can't propose
Speaker 1: to someone or be engaged until you're settled in your
Speaker 1: career and like you understand what your your life and
Speaker 1: your finances are going to be, like all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. To Mark's point, like, once you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna spend your life with someone, why not start spending
Speaker 1: it with him as soon as possible, in spite of
Speaker 1: not being exactly where you want to be in your life,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, yeah, and that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: And yeah, but I understand a guy. Guys get overwhelmed
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah. I mean I waited about a year
Speaker 1: after I knew that I wanted to propose salison because
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was because I was telling my friends like,
Speaker 1: when I get you, say, hey, once you come with
Speaker 1: my studio apartment. You know, I just I didn't have
Speaker 1: any money, you know, my my career was in a
Speaker 1: spot I was happy with, but I wanted to see
Speaker 1: how many more levels I could get to. And then, uh,
Speaker 1: I finally I was like, I just got to do this.
Speaker 1: And I went and talked to her parents and they
Speaker 1: were like, what took you so long? Were you living
Speaker 1: by yourself? Mark? Were you you were living by yourself too? Right? Yes?
Speaker 1: We we we moved in together actually right before I proposed.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, I guess, because you're typically and
Speaker 1: again I'm kind of flipping this back up myself because
Speaker 1: I've never lived by myself. Oh, I'm so far from
Speaker 1: any of this. So you live you ever, mit, Mat
Speaker 1: and I have no relationships. I guess my would you
Speaker 1: guys have ever considered proposing to your girlfriends at the
Speaker 1: time had you not lived with them? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh but she but I'm sure you guys were staying
Speaker 1: on together often. Yeah, we spell all the time. We
Speaker 1: weren't living together though, until after I proposed. We moved
Speaker 1: in before I proposed. She didn't know I was about
Speaker 1: to propose, but I didn't. That made me more comfortable.
Speaker 1: As far as her parents were against it, they didn't.
Speaker 1: They were fine with us. They were fine with me,
Speaker 1: but moving in together for marriage they were not okay with.
Speaker 1: And I knew they were mad about it. But in
Speaker 1: my back of my mind, I know, it's literally a
Speaker 1: week and I'm going to propose and everything's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: And it was. So did you tell them before you
Speaker 1: moved in with No, I didn't. They had to deal
Speaker 1: with that for a few days. Yeah, you just wanted
Speaker 1: to string them along. No. I just needed the right time.
Speaker 1: I needed the right situation. We were going up. We
Speaker 1: went up to San Francisco for Labor Day weekend, and
Speaker 1: I asked her up there, how does the timing of
Speaker 1: it all work? How how long did you wait before
Speaker 1: between asking her father and then proposing. I went quick
Speaker 1: because her mom is a bit of a blabber mouse,
Speaker 1: so I was worried that it was everyone was gonna know.
Speaker 1: So I think I asked day we were leaving on
Speaker 1: the trip, and that was before cell phones, sorry, And
Speaker 1: so I knew if I could get Amy out of
Speaker 1: town without talking to her mom, I knew we'd be okay. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: I think my name was about three months because I
Speaker 1: mine was kind of in a I did on Catalan Island,
Speaker 1: and I had my buddies, a professional photographer. I had
Speaker 1: him like planted in the bushes to take pictures of
Speaker 1: the moment side to make sure it was a time
Speaker 1: where like the three of us could get over there
Speaker 1: and like there's my they have a vacation house there.
Speaker 1: That mad to make sure it was clear. There's things
Speaker 1: that went into it. So it took some planning, but
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure the big because I knew
Speaker 1: they were going to say yes, like they give me
Speaker 1: their blessing, but just in case they didn't, I needed
Speaker 1: some time to recuperate from that, right, I forget what
Speaker 1: this spun off from. I think, uh, It's just funny
Speaker 1: to think about because I've never by myself and now
Speaker 1: that has Erica. So it's like, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: kind of like a necessary uh step that everyone has
Speaker 1: to take before they're even ready to post it someone
Speaker 1: Just it's hard for me to imagine proposing to someone,
Speaker 1: or like even a guy proposing to some girl when
Speaker 1: that guy has you know, two or three friends that
Speaker 1: he lives within a house with about her. That's a
Speaker 1: good point. Well, I guess you have toally have to
Speaker 1: plan to be getting a place with them. You don't
Speaker 1: have to buy a house in this day and age.
Speaker 1: That doesn't have to be a mandatory married situation these days,
Speaker 1: you really can't. Um, Okay, I've got one more here.
Speaker 1: Let me just sum this one up. This is I
Speaker 1: think is pronounced a lease. And basically she met a
Speaker 1: guy over the summer and it was great and they
Speaker 1: clicked and it was amazing and he was a gentleman
Speaker 1: and smart, determined and fun and really listened to her,
Speaker 1: which is an interesting compliment to make and guys should
Speaker 1: take note of that. Anyway, such a healthy emotional connection.
Speaker 1: Things were perfect. He got an offer, a job offer
Speaker 1: in the Grand Cayman Islands that he couldn't turn down.
Speaker 1: It's a two year deal. There's no bad blood, but
Speaker 1: they did end up just they decided to end it. Uh.
Speaker 1: He left in November and she can't stop thinking about him.
Speaker 1: She's been going on on dates, but she's having a
Speaker 1: really hard time because she compares every guy to the
Speaker 1: guy that left. She knows that that's wrong, she knows
Speaker 1: she shouldn't compare these people, but she can't help it.
Speaker 1: She doesn't feel for them when she felt for him,
Speaker 1: and she wants that again. So she asks, do you
Speaker 1: think do you think it would be this hard to
Speaker 1: get over him if it wasn't meant to be? Two
Speaker 1: years is a long time and he could be a
Speaker 1: completely different person by then. Or maybe it'll work out.
Speaker 1: But I know if I know, it won't if I
Speaker 1: spend the next two years waiting around? Who would want
Speaker 1: to be with someone who did that? Help I Suck
Speaker 1: a Dating? See they're dropping it? I mean people like
Speaker 1: this Turtle ps what if Tanya's podcast called She's Hysterical?
Speaker 1: Tanya is on Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly as well
Speaker 1: occasionally on Help I Suck a Dating with the Angler
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast and I heard radio podcast.
Speaker 1: And of course she's on on air with Ryan Seacrest
Speaker 1: every morning on Kissing Them on Los Angeles Channel, Levin
Speaker 1: on Sirius X. It's a lot of times find radio
Speaker 1: stations across the country. If you're interested in Tanya, you'll
Speaker 1: find its handle is Tanya Rad. That Tanya Rad. All right,
Speaker 1: So what do we tell Elise I feel really bad
Speaker 1: for Elise is do you think that it's hard to
Speaker 1: get over if we weren't meant to be? I think
Speaker 1: that she so her question was, yeah, So her question,
Speaker 1: just to repeat, was do you think it'd be hard,
Speaker 1: that's hard to get over him if it weren't meant
Speaker 1: to be? And I think that it can totally be
Speaker 1: hard to get over someone if it was still wasn't
Speaker 1: meant to be with them. And just because you're I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's just human nature to compare that every
Speaker 1: subsequent relationship with the one that you had the most
Speaker 1: feelings for. In my opinion, it's not like it's not
Speaker 1: necessarily a matter of you guys were soulmates. Maybe you are.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that you you were, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, you spend a lot of time with someone,
Speaker 1: you grow a connection with them, and then once you
Speaker 1: guys have to break up, especially for something like this,
Speaker 1: where it's not like you guys broke up because you
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily want to be together. It's kind of more
Speaker 1: of just a matter of of proximity. UM, if you,
Speaker 1: if you, definitely, I think you're able to get over him.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be challenging, but I think probably, like even
Speaker 1: twelve months in, you're gonna be realizing that, Um, it's
Speaker 1: not going to be incredibly difficult to get over him,
Speaker 1: I think. So I think that, Um, I think the
Speaker 1: time will tell. We've all had very difficult breakups in
Speaker 1: our life, and then you get older, and all of
Speaker 1: my breakups clearly were not meant to be because I'm
Speaker 1: very happy with my wife. So even though at a
Speaker 1: terrible time with those breakups, clearly those weren't the right
Speaker 1: person for me. So time will tell. But I also
Speaker 1: think you answer your own question when you say, I
Speaker 1: know it's not going to work out. If I spend
Speaker 1: the next two years waiting around, you clearly don't want
Speaker 1: to do that, So don't do that. Go out there
Speaker 1: date two years from now, maybe you'll be with somebody else,
Speaker 1: maybe you won't, but we'll deal with you the the
Speaker 1: elease of two thousand November two tho nineteen. We'll deal
Speaker 1: with her at the time and see if she's ready
Speaker 1: for him for somebody else. My feeling is you're going
Speaker 1: to find somebody else and maybe it's not going to
Speaker 1: be the same as with this guy, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fantastic. It's gonna be different, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be great Erica whole thing. Eric is more um like
Speaker 1: cynical and straight to it. What do you so, what's
Speaker 1: your thought here? No? I just I actually in this case,
Speaker 1: I'm like talk to him every day. Who cares? You
Speaker 1: want to keep it alive? Two years is not that
Speaker 1: long in the grand scheme of things, to be honest.
Speaker 1: It's taken me like hip, Well, she's okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: that's hard, but who cares? She sells plenty of times
Speaker 1: have babies after eight. But I think we need to
Speaker 1: know what he's thinking. If she's going to do that right,
Speaker 1: she would have to have conversations with him. She can't
Speaker 1: just wait around and be like, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: hope in two years he calls me, because if they're
Speaker 1: texting all the time and talking all the time. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's cool. But if she's texting, I think what his
Speaker 1: responses to that is. I don't think they're talking at
Speaker 1: all right now. If it was really really meant to be,
Speaker 1: then this job offer, no matter how good it was,
Speaker 1: wouldn't have pulled him away for two years to allow
Speaker 1: them to end their relationship. Interesting never lets him when
Speaker 1: I was dating, not take the best job offer of
Speaker 1: their life because you haven't been in love yet with
Speaker 1: the person that you're gonna marry. Okay, have you been
Speaker 1: in love? I think so. Yeah. Dean isn't saying he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have taken the job. Dean is saying that the
Speaker 1: universe would not have given this job if you two
Speaker 1: were meant to be right, and even if it did
Speaker 1: give it to him, if he felt the way, if
Speaker 1: he felt it was the one, if if she was
Speaker 1: the one, then he would have turned down the job offer. Look,
Speaker 1: I hate that every single email that comes in I
Speaker 1: have a personal story for but I do Amy, and
Speaker 1: I already gether. Six months and I moved to Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I had already planned on doing it. We were in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: I had already planned on it before I met Amy,
Speaker 1: so we met. I told her from the beginning, fell
Speaker 1: in love. Leaving sucked so bad, but I had to
Speaker 1: do it because my whole life would have wondered what
Speaker 1: if I had gone to l A. What could have happened.
Speaker 1: Maybe I could have hosted, uh that, a phony game
Speaker 1: show at a theme park. Maybe I could have met
Speaker 1: Dean Angler one day and been on his podcast. So
Speaker 1: many possibilities that wouldn't have happened if I hadn't moved
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. Anyway, the point is, she ended up
Speaker 1: following me out here, a little different because grand came
Speaker 1: in Islands just a two two year thing. But she
Speaker 1: ended up coming out here and that worked out really nicely.
Speaker 1: But we also didn't We also didn't say we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep seeing each other, but you didn't really break up.
Speaker 1: We didn't really break up either. We just kind of
Speaker 1: let it linger. I don't know, I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like that's such a rare example, because I feel
Speaker 1: like typically that wouldn't end well, but in this case,
Speaker 1: it did. But I'm saying that the universe still sent
Speaker 1: me to l A, and it's still fate found a
Speaker 1: way to bring us together. So with Elise and the guy,
Speaker 1: Fate will bring you together. If it's meant to be,
Speaker 1: you just gotta do your thing. But it's it's I
Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of unfair of you to say,
Speaker 1: and a lot of and I'm probably gonna contradict myself here,
Speaker 1: Please God. It's easy to look back with hindsight and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, fate is what led that to happen,
Speaker 1: or fate is what led that to be where we
Speaker 1: are now when like when you were living it, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're like, what going on? Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is a good idea part of my cursing. Um,
Speaker 1: it's like what when all that stuff is going on?
Speaker 1: I'm sure you and Elise, I'm sorry you and Amy
Speaker 1: we're questioning things just as much as a lease and
Speaker 1: this guy is. So it's like it's challenging to I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess what you're blessed with now is perspective because
Speaker 1: you've been through it and you obviously aren't a very
Speaker 1: successful and healthy and healthy and happy relationship. Um, but
Speaker 1: when so much is uncertain in the future, it's like,
Speaker 1: right when Elise is already she'll it'll all makes sense
Speaker 1: to her, but now it's hard to look exactly. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that there's like a million different I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: like an infinite number of outcomes from this, and until
Speaker 1: she actually lives it and understands where she wants to
Speaker 1: go and what and when she's actually looking back on it,
Speaker 1: is really the only moment she's going to realize whether
Speaker 1: it was a good decision or not a good decision.
Speaker 1: So what's her advice for her? I think that she
Speaker 1: should move on. I think she she should start. Erica says,
Speaker 1: I'm open to her pursuing other relationships, but I don't
Speaker 1: think block this guy out completely. If he reaches out,
Speaker 1: maybe you should talk and sure, but if she's going
Speaker 1: on dates, clinging onto this guy who's in the band
Speaker 1: came in irons for two years, maybe I shouldn't be talking.
Speaker 1: She's self sabotaging in that sense, and so she should.
Speaker 1: She should go into every new relationship with kind of
Speaker 1: like a blank canvas, a clean slate, and allow it
Speaker 1: to unfold. It's difficult because I mean, I think we're
Speaker 1: all guilty of comparing new relationships old relationships. But when
Speaker 1: you remember an old relationship, at least in my case.
Speaker 1: All you tend to do is romanticize it and remember
Speaker 1: the good things and you forget about all the negative things.
Speaker 1: And it's like when you look back at yourself in
Speaker 1: the moment of those relationships, you're like, I remember being miserable,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna think about the happy times instead, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is a crazy thing that our brain does.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so maybe she'll find someone regardless, maybe
Speaker 1: this guy comes back and he calls her and she
Speaker 1: happens to be single. You really think it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I have so much hope for these two. And I
Speaker 1: don't even know this guy. Eric is a cynic, but
Speaker 1: she's a romantic at the same time. Visit him in
Speaker 1: the Grand Cayman, Irelands because a great trip, the beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: Why Okay, So here's an experience or a story from
Speaker 1: my personal experience, not firsthand, secondhand. One of my great friends, Um,
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about it on this podcast before.
Speaker 1: He just moved to Mumbai, India, probably in October of
Speaker 1: last year, and he was he was dating this girl
Speaker 1: for four years in Los Angeles. They were in love
Speaker 1: with each other. He so he relocated to Mumbai for work.
Speaker 1: He got a job offer to open up Amazon unscripted
Speaker 1: studio out in Mumbai. UM and his girlfriend, who had
Speaker 1: dated him and is very much a relationship type woman,
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, my boyfriend is moving to Mumbai and
Speaker 1: we're going to break up because of that. What do
Speaker 1: I do? So she moved to Australia and like they
Speaker 1: were talking for a couple of weeks after they had
Speaker 1: both moved, and then after talking to him about it,
Speaker 1: he was like, no, it was like unfair of us
Speaker 1: to continue to talk, because what we really need to
Speaker 1: do is people to like dive into our current environments
Speaker 1: and find someone and and like not really allow ourselves
Speaker 1: to hold each other back in that sense. So it's like,
Speaker 1: and now she is in another serious relationship with a guy.
Speaker 1: Um I haven't talked to her, and you know he's
Speaker 1: enjoying himself out in Mumbai. But I guess the point
Speaker 1: of it is, it's like by clinging onto those those
Speaker 1: relationships knowing that it might not necessarily work out and
Speaker 1: at least like the um um current time with what
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the short term, the intermediaries at a word,
Speaker 1: in the interim, UM it's it's they're like self sabotaging
Speaker 1: in that sense, and they're like not allowing themselves to
Speaker 1: fully move on. You're right about that. If Amy hadn't
Speaker 1: moved out here, eventually that conversation would have had to happen,
Speaker 1: like why are we still talking? What are we doing?
Speaker 1: Because you're right, you're clinging onto something that's not happening,
Speaker 1: and you're not allowing yourself to move on, not allow yourself. Yes,
Speaker 1: but that case, obviously it moved out. So maybe if
Speaker 1: at least want to move to the Grand came In Islands.
Speaker 1: But it's only two years. That's a major, major deal
Speaker 1: I want. But that's what That's what I wonder about
Speaker 1: is if she does visit, maybe it's amazing for a week,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's when she realizes, man, this is the
Speaker 1: real deal. I'm Maybe they have a conversation about that
Speaker 1: and think, man, we really do love each other. Let's
Speaker 1: make this work. Let's FaceTime this and this, and let's
Speaker 1: text and let's do all this stuff. Let's try to
Speaker 1: make this work. Or maybe she gets there and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: he's clearly that was fun, but yeah, not as new
Speaker 1: it as I am. Or maybe she guess there's you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't as great as I remember it being. The
Speaker 1: problem is she could come back from an amazing vacation
Speaker 1: being like, that was the worst trip of my life,
Speaker 1: but it was the grand came in Islands. How bad
Speaker 1: could it be? I mean, when you're heartbroken, it could
Speaker 1: be pretty bad. I guess we keep forgetting that. The
Speaker 1: relationship wasn't very serious before they even left. It was
Speaker 1: kind of a summer fling. But she said it was perfect.
Speaker 1: Why don't she should do all summer flings perfect? What
Speaker 1: should she do? She should send him a man create
Speaker 1: and he's on the beach fledgehammering it open, not crowbarring. Sorry,
Speaker 1: very good. That's what you should start doing instead of
Speaker 1: sending guys gifts of the sub seal on bumble, ask
Speaker 1: them for their address and send them a man create
Speaker 1: right away. That you know that can add up real quick. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you want to how you can save money? Use codeine
Speaker 1: you have five percent off. Perfect um. Eric, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know what a man create is, but
Speaker 1: let me talk about this first. Okay, So man create. Basically,
Speaker 1: what a man create is is a perfect gift for
Speaker 1: any guy. It's a gift curated for um, the significant
Speaker 1: other in your life and honestly, anyone, your brother, your father,
Speaker 1: Mark and Studio loves the salami crate. Just love salami,
Speaker 1: I mean, bring it on. Its definitely my favorite deli meat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I bet the salami bouquet has different kinds of
Speaker 1: salami in it. I'm just assuming maybe some pepperoni too,
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, so you want to what's funny about
Speaker 1: salami and pepperoni? Which no one's really gonna understand this reference,
Speaker 1: and I'm probably just gonna make myself sound incredibly weird.
Speaker 1: Salami and pepperoni are both the list, but they're both
Speaker 1: uniquely different. You guys, do you guys ever play Mortal
Speaker 1: Kombat back in the day, Scorpion and sub Zero very
Speaker 1: similar but uniquely different, so identical except for different colors
Speaker 1: when Solar salamian pepperoni when you slice him. And whenever
Speaker 1: I think about salami or pepperoni, I think about Scorpion
Speaker 1: versus sub Zero. It's the weirdest thing. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: because salami is like in a it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: like a it's like a pink purple e like Patty
Speaker 1: looking thing. You're just talking about like the substance of it,
Speaker 1: like like this like a sliced Salammi or slice pepperoni,
Speaker 1: and Pepperoni is like a sliced red little patty thing.
Speaker 1: And Scorpion was like a yellow skeleton with the thing
Speaker 1: over his mask, and sub Zero was the same with
Speaker 1: the blue over his face. Anyways, that's sorry to get
Speaker 1: off topic. You will not get Scorpion or sub Zero
Speaker 1: in your man Create, but you could get the salami bouquet,
Speaker 1: like Mark legs Um I read. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: these that I would like. Amy likes the Moscow Mui one.
Speaker 1: My my roommates girlfriend actually just sent him one for
Speaker 1: his birthday recently and he was obsessed with it. He
Speaker 1: it's funny. He got the crate before I had left
Speaker 1: to come taped this podcast, and he was like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is this? Like, I don't know, I have
Speaker 1: to go. I'm sorry, and I got back. I was
Speaker 1: like getting text from the entire time I was here.
Speaker 1: I got back, He's like, dude, I've been trying so
Speaker 1: hard to open this create. I can't get it open.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, why would she send you
Speaker 1: a crate that you're not able to open, and he
Speaker 1: was like he was like obsessing about it. He said
Speaker 1: it was like one of the most fun things he
Speaker 1: had to figure out how to open um. What's funny, too,
Speaker 1: is they include a crowbar because you actually need the
Speaker 1: crow bar to crank it open and get inside. So anyways,
Speaker 1: if you go to man Creates dot com slash Dean,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a manly man. I don't drink beer. I
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Speaker 1: feel like I was thinking these are gonna be for
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Speaker 1: I went on there and I scrolled through it and
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Speaker 1: can I have that there's so much because it is.
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Speaker 1: Where will you be watching the super Bowl this weekend,
Speaker 1: Dean Um, I'm traveling to Tahoe this weekend, uh with
Speaker 1: someone we might have discussed on this podcast this week
Speaker 1: hypothetically and quite a few of my friends. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be up, so we're gonna skin, We're gonna be doing
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff Actually it's funny because that's where
Speaker 1: they filmed one of Ari's episodes of The Bachelor this year. Um,
Speaker 1: but anyways, thanks for tuning in, thanks for listening to Wait,
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch the game? They're yeah, okay, fun like
Speaker 1: with a bunch of people. Yeah, who's your pick? Patriots
Speaker 1: or Eagles? I think Patriots are gonna win. That's a party.
Speaker 1: That's a party. Who do you guys want to win?
Speaker 1: I'm only rooting for the Eagles only because I'm tired
Speaker 1: of the Patriots winning every week, which every year, which
Speaker 1: I know is not a great argument, but I don't
Speaker 1: have a real passion for hither team. And the Eagles
Speaker 1: have never won the Super Bowl and they have really
Speaker 1: good fans. They have a really devoted fans, so I
Speaker 1: think they'd be cool for Philadelphis. Are all so crazy,
Speaker 1: a little crazy. Yeah. I hate myself for saying this
Speaker 1: because I'm a Broncos fan. I hate the Patriots, always have,
Speaker 1: but there's just something about how good they are that
Speaker 1: I almost kind of want to root for them, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm a big fan of an underdog all the time,
Speaker 1: but they're just like to continuously cement Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's legacy. It's impressive, There's no question, it's very impressive.
Speaker 1: I hate myself that I'm even wanting them to win. Well,
Speaker 1: last week LIVELTI, last year against Atlanta cemented their cemented
Speaker 1: it for me unfortunate and here they are back again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that'll be good. Well enjoy Dean. Thanks. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you what you're doing? My parents are in town,
Speaker 1: so we'll be watching the game of my house. I
Speaker 1: have a tradition with my kids. They go play and
Speaker 1: then I say girls commercials and they come and they
Speaker 1: watch the commercials with me, and then they and then
Speaker 1: they come for the halftime show. That sounds exactly like
Speaker 1: my childhood. And now I watched the games, Um yeah,
Speaker 1: playing like soccer outside and then it's like the yeah
Speaker 1: they're playing Barte. The commercials they get worse and worse.
Speaker 1: They're just too cheesy. They're so they're I don't know,
Speaker 1: they're just so over the top they are. I can't
Speaker 1: handle him. Well, we're not gonna argue with you on that. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's something for everybody watching that about you. I'm not
Speaker 1: that big in football, not big into sports. I just
Speaker 1: bought a bunch of I keya furniture, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put that together on Super Bowl Sale. After the passing
Speaker 1: of the founder, No we we did raise Adele and
Speaker 1: and Allen Wrench in his memory, though his spirit lives
Speaker 1: on in house. Yes every room. Um, all right, well,
Speaker 1: thanks again for tuning in. And I was medtally in
Speaker 1: a bad mood when this podcast started. I'm still not
Speaker 1: entirely over it. We've got a lot of talking to
Speaker 1: do behind the scenes. But your emails really definitely helped
Speaker 1: perk me up. I definitely always appreciate them again, and
Speaker 1: take everything that I say with the big grain of salt,
Speaker 1: but take everything Mark says with a little bit more serious.
Speaker 1: Lord to keep those emails coming. I suck at dating
Speaker 1: at i heeart media dot com. Next week we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk to a meditation expert help me get in the
Speaker 1: right headspace for this show. And I've I've meditated before.
Speaker 1: I've actually I've worked a lot with headspace. Um. They
Speaker 1: used to be a client of mine here in Los Angeles. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's hard for me to focus. I think is
Speaker 1: is this year that I have with meditating. But it's
Speaker 1: funny if you look at all the successive people and
Speaker 1: basically and in any industry, the one common denominat that
Speaker 1: they all have is that they meditate and and they
Speaker 1: swear by it, so it could be interesting. We'll see
Speaker 1: how that goes. Um, thank you again for tuning into
Speaker 1: this week's episode. Thanks to Erica Mark Easton for for
Speaker 1: being here. UM. I'm gonna leave Amy out again because
Speaker 1: I'm a little annoyed, So tune in next week for
Speaker 1: another episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Thank you
Speaker 1: for listening. Um, maybe next week we'll have a different title.
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