WEBVTT - #16 Help! Dating Sucks

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Hell I suck at Dating with Dean Angler

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, part of

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<v Speaker 1>my uh annoyed temper today because I've just been um, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very annoyed with one of our producers in studio

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<v Speaker 1>right now. This is real and raw. She makes it

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<v Speaker 1>seem like I have an opinion that that is taken

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<v Speaker 1>into consideration in every turn, but in reality it's just

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<v Speaker 1>really whatever she says goes and well, Dean, now I

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the production staff of this show for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>When we say to you, Dean, what do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about on this show? I don't know. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't really bring a lot to the table. You don't say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I did this, we could talk about that. Hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. So we try to give you ideas

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you don't like those ideas. Well, yeah, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times I don't like the ideas. Let see,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have no ideas of your own, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like our ideas. So then when where does that

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<v Speaker 1>of us? I have a lot of ideas, but you

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<v Speaker 1>guys shoot them down every single time. Go ahead, changing

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the podcast for one budge on one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>budge on one thing, and then I will begin to

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<v Speaker 1>snowball and waterfall in some more ideas. Jessica makes a

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<v Speaker 1>really good point about the title of the podcast. If

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<v Speaker 1>I may dean funny story. I was at this guy's house.

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<v Speaker 1>I just started seeing him. He was looking at something

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone went out of nowhere. He just starts laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll like go over at him, and after a second,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear your voice coming from my phone. He then goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I accidentally started the podcast Help I Suck at Dating?

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<v Speaker 1>And he kept laughing. He couldn't even breathe. Another friend

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<v Speaker 1>of ours and laughing too. They both started making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of me. How much I must suck at dating if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to a self help dating podcast. Now, whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I do something related to dating, he says, oh did

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<v Speaker 1>you learn that from Dean. As fun as the ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>joke is, I vote in favor of a name change.

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<v Speaker 1>Help Dating Sucks works fine, And maybe next time someone

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<v Speaker 1>stumbles upon your podcast on my phone. Don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>just agree that dating sucks now that I actually suck

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<v Speaker 1>at dating love the podcast, Jessica. Well, Jessica, first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize because the tyranny here at iHeart Radio will

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<v Speaker 1>not allow the name of the podcast to change, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how much we lobby for it, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of frustrating sometimes and a lot of it Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to talk about now because I

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<v Speaker 1>still can't really be as open and honestly as I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be for the next two or three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>while the show hasn't even aired yet for Winter Games

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. So I don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a weird, weird limbo phase right now. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's could we end this podcast and start a new

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<v Speaker 1>podcast with a different title. Yeah, all that costs money.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't know that cost money. Okay, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice looking logo. I can stay. Just change

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<v Speaker 1>the words in it. Look, all we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is remove the eye and A put the dating in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the suck, and then double the s put

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<v Speaker 1>it at the end. Help dating sucks. Why isn't you

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<v Speaker 1>heard it so much? Diners? Because A I think that

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<v Speaker 1>only one percent of the people out there understand that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a satirical title. No, be when I tell people

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<v Speaker 1>what I do every Tuesday from noon to two pm,

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<v Speaker 1>I would much feel feel much more comfortable saying I

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<v Speaker 1>have a podcast named help Dating Sucks instead of help

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<v Speaker 1>I Suck at Dating. See, maybe it's just a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of a principle where you know, if I have an

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<v Speaker 1>idea for the first time in the twenty weeks we've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this and it gets adopted and accepted, it

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel more comfortable about this hole being a

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<v Speaker 1>joint effort instead of me just kind of following my

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<v Speaker 1>uh opinions blindly. There there could be Maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 1>compromise to be found here. What if it became help

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<v Speaker 1>Do you suck at dating? What's the difference? Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not you, it's someone else. It's them, it's the listener.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you suck a dating? That that's enough of a change,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we can change it to that. Possibly I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You don't like that either? You want the

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<v Speaker 1>words suck when you don't mind dating sucks? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to make all about them. I'll still take

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<v Speaker 1>some of it for myself. Okay, we have another proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we suck at dating? Help? Do we suck at dating? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with help Dating sucks? I'm so confused with

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with that one does. There's a little negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Does there have to be like pinpointing whether it's you

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<v Speaker 1>meet us. There has to be a pronoun in there somewhere?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we married to pronouns as another corporation? Somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make a point that dating sucks would be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a negative name for a podcast. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find that one. That's probably Amy's email. She sent it

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<v Speaker 1>from here. It is dating sucks. This is Jenny Help

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<v Speaker 1>dating Sucks. It sounds too negative, and you might be

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<v Speaker 1>advertising there's just a podcast of people who hate romance.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to keep it similar the format of

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<v Speaker 1>the current name, how about something like help Becoming Datable,

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<v Speaker 1>or how to suck lass at Dating? What about that one,

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<v Speaker 1>how to suck lass at Dating? Maybe that I like

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<v Speaker 1>that one? Okay, all right, it's a it's a start.

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<v Speaker 1>Well Dean smiling, that's a positive staff. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I have a pizza in my in my teeth. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got pizza from CPK. Was fantastic. It was cauliflower crust.

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<v Speaker 1>Healthy too. It's like eating a vegetable. If I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what was cauliflower crust, I would have said, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>that crust is really good. I would have said that

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<v Speaker 1>just out of nowhere, because I had noted in myself,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really good crust. Turns out it's cauliflower really initiated.

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<v Speaker 1>That's California Pizza Kitchen, right. I don't think they go

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<v Speaker 1>with that anymore. I think, oh yeah, I guess they

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<v Speaker 1>do it right there on the box, because sometimes these

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<v Speaker 1>companies do that. They go to initials that you never

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<v Speaker 1>ever hear again. What like KFC Kitchen Fresh Chicken. I

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<v Speaker 1>sort that's what they changed it to. It's no more

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Fried anyway, But forget about Kentucky Fried because CPK

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<v Speaker 1>is here and it's delicious. Will you accept how to

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<v Speaker 1>suck at Dating less? That's a little how to suck less?

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<v Speaker 1>It dat Yoda if Yoda made a title how to

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<v Speaker 1>suck less a dating is what Jenny proposed. Yeh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a step in the right direction. That's great, Thank you, Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's iterate upon that and figured it figure out exactly

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<v Speaker 1>who want to do? Tell us about your week, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're later than usual this week. What's been going on

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<v Speaker 1>with you? It's Thursday already? Day? Yeah, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's been so long since I've seen you guys. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been too long. What have you done this week? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you gone out? What have I done this week? Spent

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<v Speaker 1>the week in New or spent money to Wednesday in

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<v Speaker 1>New York? Wow? What were you doing there? I went

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<v Speaker 1>with Amanda Stanton, n Ashley, I and Eric Bigger out

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<v Speaker 1>there for a an event with Lord and Taylor in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. H It's funny enough. We were giving out

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<v Speaker 1>dating advice and fashion advice for for some New York

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<v Speaker 1>locals out there. Um went to the beach a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend with some friends. Is it too cold to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the beach? I mean it's jary, It was

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<v Speaker 1>like in the eighties. Was actually nice? Um. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a whig party for one of my bald friends. He

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<v Speaker 1>turned twenty seven, so we all decided to wear wigs

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<v Speaker 1>and have a surprise birthday party for him. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>bald by choice or bald by nature or bald by illness?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of one of those things where he was balding

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<v Speaker 1>as a young early twenties individual and decided to just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of take it around with it and shaved his

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<v Speaker 1>head bald and now he kind of accepts it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Smalled by choice, but by necessity is I know a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who in high school lost it, just went completely bald,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he wears a wig. But it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>high end wig because there's something about being in con

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<v Speaker 1>troll of a situation that makes you feel more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Wig maybe not so much. But what what

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<v Speaker 1>would you do? Like, I have a I have a

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<v Speaker 1>bald spot. Uh if you got that, would you have

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<v Speaker 1>an issue with that? Would you shave your head? I

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<v Speaker 1>shipped my head bald last year, last October, like a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half ago. For what reason? Um? There

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<v Speaker 1>were multiple reasons. One reason there were dynamics. I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to actually qualify for the Summer Olympics. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got a mole removed on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>my head that I always thought was really unsightly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it was like you could see it

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<v Speaker 1>through the hair sometimes, And I was like, I always

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<v Speaker 1>want to be bald, but I didn't want this mole

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<v Speaker 1>to be stick. Now, UM, I don't know. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>was bald for a long time, so what what would

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<v Speaker 1>it be like to be bald? You know? So there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of things that was like yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I was just like, you know what, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. And so I took the clippers and

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<v Speaker 1>and bused the line through my hair and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, there's no turning back now. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>honestly horrible experience. I looked hideous for two or three months. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but what else? And then you don't have the head

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<v Speaker 1>for it, all the shape the cranium, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't, I don't know. I think my

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<v Speaker 1>ears are weird, yeah, And I think that one of

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<v Speaker 1>my best physical qualities is my hair. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>I lose that, like if I if I was bald

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<v Speaker 1>ahead brown eyes, I probably would never know it even

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<v Speaker 1>look twice at me. That's not true, Dean, some people

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<v Speaker 1>pull up brown eyes. I'm just saying, everything else on

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<v Speaker 1>my face is is unsightly, like my nose, my lips,

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<v Speaker 1>my cheeks, all that kind of stuff. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>but it gets brought up a little bit higher because

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<v Speaker 1>of the blue eyes and because of the flow hair.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying, flowy hair and blue eyes like the draw

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<v Speaker 1>for you, those are your best features and you and

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<v Speaker 1>you're proud of those, and you feel like that's what

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<v Speaker 1>gets people attracted to. But if you look past the

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<v Speaker 1>blue eyes and the hair, there's not much going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a weird conversation because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to sit here and reassure you that you're attracted.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's a lot going on. Um not,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, But it's because you lost in the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and the hair, and now you're a heterosexual female. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>Dean different hair, brown eyes, green eyes, whatever, but not

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<v Speaker 1>such striking eyes. Problem is, I think I've seen you

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<v Speaker 1>the photos. It's not awesome. Okay, it's admittedly not awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, the rest of your face is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe I think you just proved his point that

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<v Speaker 1>without his hair in his eyes, he's an average looking guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but you'll have nice hand scanning. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. Yeah, but that fades. Oh well, sorry, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, bald his tan face. But this is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that everybody has these insecurities about their own physical appearance,

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<v Speaker 1>even somebody who seems to the outsider as handsome as

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Anglert. He doesn't even like his it knows, his

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<v Speaker 1>mouth with his Chinn's ears, whatever it is. But everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has that. You're so used to your own features, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how beautiful you really are. Oh, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably true, George Clooney, I don't know, Jaselle Bunschen. They

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<v Speaker 1>probably look in the mirror and they're like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like how my nose is or that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think it's when I look back to do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys ever play like Madden? They're like NBA two

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<v Speaker 1>K or anything. You can create a player and like

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<v Speaker 1>give him a name, give them number, all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, And like every time I would create a player,

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of weeks into playing with that player,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm sick of the way this guy looks.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it's like, you can't do that in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you look at the mirror every single day for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six years. You're like, I'm sick the way this

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<v Speaker 1>guy looks. Beard, I can't grow must you can't me neither? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>never look at that podcast stuff here everyone. Hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of emails about the opening lines to

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<v Speaker 1>use on a dating app. Erica is so much Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric is on a bunch of these. Erica is the

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<v Speaker 1>one that told us about the the gift, the sub

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<v Speaker 1>seal seal and you know what, it's been working pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>Really Yeah, I've gotten a lot of responses Erica did

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<v Speaker 1>had a date last night that you did not bother

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<v Speaker 1>to go to. I didn't like stand him up, like

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<v Speaker 1>I told him, I didn't feel well feeling. What she

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<v Speaker 1>knows is bogus, right, he knows at I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't talked since. He said, I'm so sorry, let

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<v Speaker 1>me know when you're feeling better, And you said, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you decide to bail? I just was not into it,

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<v Speaker 1>like at all, Like I just didn't want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's also because this thing happens when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on dating apps where you're talking to one person who

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<v Speaker 1>you like more than anyone else you're talking to, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you feel like until you meet that person, you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't go out with anyone else. So you're you're focused

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<v Speaker 1>too much on one guy in the app, and like

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<v Speaker 1>that is not a good strategy, that's not the point

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<v Speaker 1>of the apps. I encourage you to go out with

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<v Speaker 1>the guy last night, just because I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to stay in the game, into practice dating. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been so out of the game so long it does,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to stay and thinking that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>got to get get in there a little bit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>good to get some reps in, you know what I mean. Practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's another time. That is an interesting point that

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<v Speaker 1>you make though, with there being one person that you

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<v Speaker 1>really want to go on a date with, and then

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<v Speaker 1>until you get that date, you're kind of like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have to go on any other date until

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<v Speaker 1>why waste my time If I'm still talking to this

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<v Speaker 1>other guy, which you are, which I am, what's inhibiting

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<v Speaker 1>you from going on a date with that guy? So

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<v Speaker 1>he lives in San Diego just kind of problematic because

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<v Speaker 1>to them he was in l A going to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in Australia for two weeks. I hope he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't listen to this show. And then he just got

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<v Speaker 1>back and I was going to Lake Ta. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>selfish when you're travel late. He's gonna La Tallo this weekend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my oh for him? So what's interesting about this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>And she showed me the pictures of him, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a very good looking guy, but she was concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>his height, which and I say this because we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to really nitpick these photos on these dating apps because

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<v Speaker 1>there's really no evidence as you scroll through that he's short.

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<v Speaker 1>He's standing with other guys, he seems to be the

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<v Speaker 1>same height as all the other guys he hangs out with.

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<v Speaker 1>This really new evidence. But she just had a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>he might not be tall enough for her, liking, how

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<v Speaker 1>tall are you? I'm five seven, but like five eight

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<v Speaker 1>on a good day, so I'm kind of tall for

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<v Speaker 1>a girl. Okay, but still she at least meet hill.

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<v Speaker 1>We older enough to meet the guy before we make

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of judgments about it. I think I could

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<v Speaker 1>be a pretty good authority on whether he's tall or not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring him on. Let's find out was he staying

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<v Speaker 1>next to like, you must be this tall? To write like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you using his reference for his height? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just using I don't other people, But like, he sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a photo from Australia and he's taller than all

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<v Speaker 1>the girls in the picture, So, like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I should be that concern. Whenever I meet someone

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<v Speaker 1>in real life, they're always like, you, look, you're so

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<v Speaker 1>much taller than I expect you to be. That was

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<v Speaker 1>my first impression of you. Yeah, I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I don't. Did I come across as short on television?

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<v Speaker 1>In my Instagram profile? Maybe? So, I don't know. That

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting. You're on his Facebook. We are not. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at his profile picture on Facebook. He's the one.

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<v Speaker 1>He's cute. That's what I said. I like to believe

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<v Speaker 1>I can match with cute men. Uh. I'm glad he

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<v Speaker 1>got out of his high school phase. This is back.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't love it, and you're probably really far into it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's short, he's probably five ten okay, gay closed. Five

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<v Speaker 1>ten is not a deal breaker for me. Five nine

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<v Speaker 1>is a deal breaker. Yeah. Yeah, if he's the perfect guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say no because of an inch, because right

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<v Speaker 1>now you can wear two inch pumps. But Eric, Erica,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was that was? That was good? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys plan that before you came in. Maddie has

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<v Speaker 1>an idea for opening lines. First of all, she thinks

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<v Speaker 1>we should bring back the term going steady. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that term. I used that when I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>dating game, and actually when I would ask a girl

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<v Speaker 1>to go steady, I would give her a pin what

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<v Speaker 1>a pen? Yeah, which is like straight out of the fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it straight out of the fifties? You give him

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<v Speaker 1>your let him in jacket. I don't play sports, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I would give them I would buy a pin.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to give him your like class pin, but

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<v Speaker 1>my school didn't do that because it was two thou

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<v Speaker 1>and two. So I just bought a pin and I

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<v Speaker 1>would give it to him and say, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>a goot? You know, hey, Becky, we've been having a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun together. I would like if you went

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<v Speaker 1>steady with me. Catches them off guard. They usually say yes,

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally end up in a relationship. Then I make a

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<v Speaker 1>miserable for a couple more weeks. And Maddie, spending time

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<v Speaker 1>with someone going out is in my opinion, dating, But

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<v Speaker 1>there's not really a word right now in our culture

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<v Speaker 1>that's used for when that dating relationship gets more serious

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<v Speaker 1>and has more intentionality. Nice word there, Maddie. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to bring back going steady makes

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<v Speaker 1>it sound like there was intentionality and it's more than

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<v Speaker 1>two people just casually spending time together. Lastly, the best

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<v Speaker 1>opening line and started conversation on a dating app is

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<v Speaker 1>two truths and a lie go it's not bad once

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<v Speaker 1>they respond to try to guess which one is a

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<v Speaker 1>lie and off at leads to a conversation. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the true things. I like that. So what she's

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<v Speaker 1>saying is the going steady is the bridge between dating

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<v Speaker 1>and boyfriend girlfriend? Just to cover that one first, is

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<v Speaker 1>it or is it boyfriend girlfriend? I think it made

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<v Speaker 1>a replace his boyfriend girlfriend. The problem I always ran

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<v Speaker 1>into is that there needs to be like a you

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<v Speaker 1>need to like schedule a meeting and deliberations for when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you get to call someone your girlfriend you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And always thought it was such a weird thing because

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<v Speaker 1>you always feel like a nerd going like so I felt,

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<v Speaker 1>if you, if you make it about going steady, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's such an old term, it makes it kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes the pressure off of it, and also it

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<v Speaker 1>lets them know what your intentions are. Yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>a man. Study I think I would want to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the brakes. I don't know. I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is oversharing. I don't know if I'm gonna get scrutinized

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<v Speaker 1>for this, But in a relationship recently that I may

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<v Speaker 1>be currently in hypothetically, hypothetically, there was the dating phase

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<v Speaker 1>that was going on and then all of a sud well,

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<v Speaker 1>not all of a sudden, but like after a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days of like culminating and thinking and like deciding.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not deciding, but like just thinking things over. I

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<v Speaker 1>just went into it. Woke up one morning and just

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<v Speaker 1>started calling with my girlfriend. And it almost like didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really give her the chance to be like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be not like that. She could, she was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, but it's like instead of instead of by

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<v Speaker 1>avoiding the conversation to be like are you my girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you want to be my girlfriend? That kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, I was just like, hey, my girlfriend needs

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<v Speaker 1>a glass of water. I'm gonna get her one real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>called her back like that kind of thing. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she heard me say that she was my girlfriend enough

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<v Speaker 1>times and then she was just like his girlfriend. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's why that's correct. I think it's fantastic because there's

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<v Speaker 1>always weirdness and nobody knows, and now you've told her,

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<v Speaker 1>and now she doesn't have to ask, she doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to wonder, she didn't have to have the conversation. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a girl on our staff. I don't want to name her,

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<v Speaker 1>but remember she was in the early part of her relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure and they were out shopping with some other

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<v Speaker 1>friends and he kind of came up behind her and

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<v Speaker 1>put her shoulder and said, uh, touched her head and said,

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<v Speaker 1>is this my girlfriend? Nope, that's not my girlfriend. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my Girlfriend's the first time we've ever said the

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<v Speaker 1>word before, and she was like, oh, I'm his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>She was happy to hear it, and then she was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I should still have the conversation. No, you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't want The guys don't want that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying that very intentionally, like you did. You said

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<v Speaker 1>it very intentionally, because the girl's always like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he just saying that. Maybe he didn't think about it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys thought about it. If he's going to drop

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<v Speaker 1>that word, it's very intentional and he has given it thought,

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<v Speaker 1>accept it, embrace it, and move forward. And they're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>certain circumstances where you can do it, like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>only only been on a few dates with someone and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not clearly exclusive like in this case, we were

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<v Speaker 1>very clearly exclusive exclusive, and I didn't I hate. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate the arbitrary dating thing. So it's like if you

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<v Speaker 1>go out to a bar, um you can't say I

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<v Speaker 1>have a girlfriend. If you guys haven't kind of labeled

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with a boyfriend girlfriend yet, so it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gives you the opportunity to be like, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we are, this is the label that we have now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it says so much. It says I'm not seeing anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not allowed to see anyone else. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>thing now, Erica, You've welcome to China. Basis the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you said you're not allowed to see anyone. You

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<v Speaker 1>are my property. But I guess if she had a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with it, she would have said, yes, yeah, exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not allowed in the sense that if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be able. I'm gonna be hurt if you do.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was a tricky thing too. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>had to say the word girlfriend about ten times before

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<v Speaker 1>I first heard the word boyfriend back. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of but it's safe. It's safer than

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<v Speaker 1>like and I love you or something like that. Why,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a big one and a major You need a

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<v Speaker 1>response to that girlfriend. You don't even need a response. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for for situation too, it was more like

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that she the first nine times she

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<v Speaker 1>heard the word girlfriend, she was just like, Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just joking around. He's just like being a goof. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the tenth time she heard it, she's like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one. That's so. You never talked about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>just heard her say boyfriend, and that's when you knew

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<v Speaker 1>that it was heard and accepted. We talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact. She was like, why did you start

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<v Speaker 1>calling your girlfriend one day? And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted you to be my girlfriend, and I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>know how it was to go about asking you to be,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just started calling it you with my girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for going along with it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. I don't know if ABC's gonna asume me

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<v Speaker 1>for this, for the hypothetical relationship that you're not even

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<v Speaker 1>really in as far as we know, Yes, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's what I'm saying. We're saying, in a hypothetical relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be cool thing. We'll talk about it more

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<v Speaker 1>some other time. I can't wait. Here's another opening line suggestion,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh where did it go? Here? It is this is Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 1>This is her favorite opening line, and she says it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually hooked a dude. It only last at about three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>but this did create success. She said to him, have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard the joke about the butter? And he responded no,

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and she said, well, I don't want to spread it.

0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I would not know. It sounds like butter is a

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<v Speaker 1>venereal disease in this case, and that's what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid. Really, that one doesn't work quite as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey said that one worked to I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>spread it? Well, then why would she ask him if

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<v Speaker 1>he had heard about the butter in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nice breaker. I understand it's an ice breaker,

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<v Speaker 1>but she could that. She goes, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>spread it, and he goes, ha ha ha or l

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<v Speaker 1>o l It could be a whole lot butter. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask me, I think you and Kelsey are

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect anyway. So Erica, so just the sub sal

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<v Speaker 1>you're experimenting with other gifts, Oh, no, strict please up,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever works, because I think it's like funny and like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is an animal raising his hand at you? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I had a whole conversation actually with this boy in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego. The whole conversation was sub seal, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he sent a cat sliding in sanks up and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, it's pretty weird that there

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<v Speaker 1>is actual video footage of these animals doing these things.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you get out of the gift? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>exchanged words or has it been Uh no, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking for weeks now, I can I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>we started talking about. Let me don't mind a ful

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with only gifts, but at some point, at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to. Um, I look at that. I

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<v Speaker 1>have messages on bumble that because I haven't been on here,

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<v Speaker 1>because i've been I've exchanged numbers with this person. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you have messages from? I don't know. Two

0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:54.560
<v Speaker 1>boys shorty Shorty McGee. No, he's what I've exchanged short face. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't answered his last text from last night. Just

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<v Speaker 1>playing the game here. So he has your number? Yeah, yeah,

0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:02.040
<v Speaker 1>we texting he got back from Australia. Any text with

0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 1>the guy you blew off last night? Yeah? Okay, so

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:09.440
<v Speaker 1>these are new people. Yeah. By the way, how we

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<v Speaker 1>got out of the gift thing was he said, so

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<v Speaker 1>what are you up to today? Oh? And then we

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<v Speaker 1>just started talking. I still hate the gift as a

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<v Speaker 1>first message. I just I can't. There's nowhere to go

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<v Speaker 1>from there. It's it's basically doing. There's something of saying, hey, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want? Like an essay on why you

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<v Speaker 1>should talk to me? So what do you think? What

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>do you what? What would work? What would be funny?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't like the punch, you don't like the gifts?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I react to with my bubble? Go back to

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<v Speaker 1>when I was on it two years ago and see

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Speaker 1>which messages I enjoyed them. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that or not. I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about that database. But um, well, if there

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<v Speaker 1>are any mail listeners for this podcast, which we have

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<v Speaker 1>had a few, we've had a few men calling and

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<v Speaker 1>email in all that kind of stuff. Um, but say

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for a gift or your sister, for your

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>mom um, whoever it is for Valentine's Day, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you're not you might not be dating someone

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you don't have to give him a

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<v Speaker 1>gift on Valentine's Day. Where you can get your girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>clothes but I'm saying, as a female listener of this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to plug a female clothing store right right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's Valentine'sday doesn't mean you can't get like

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<v Speaker 1>your mother, gift your sister, gift Galantine's Day, Galantine's they get.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoil yourself, I mean threat up. With these prices, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be still not too yes and leave it to mark

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<v Speaker 1>to to look at it selfishly, spoil yourself. You get

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<v Speaker 1>something for you. Valentine's Day is coming up, Galantine's Day

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is coming up. Uh. You can definitely go on threat

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<v Speaker 1>up dot com and peruse their section. It's basically going

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<v Speaker 1>to an online thrift store. I'm on threat up dot

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<v Speaker 1>com right now, and it's really amazing these prices, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, thrift stores are such a great deal. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you walk into one, it's a little daunting. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so much in that place, and you don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>to start summer in pile somewhere on racks. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you go to threat up dot com, it's so simple.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go wherever you want. I want a blue shirt,

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna find a blue shirt. You can literally just

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>search I want a blue shirt. Boom they're gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you all the blue shirts they got in the prices.

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<v Speaker 1>They got jackets, they got sweaters from four dollars, they

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<v Speaker 1>got dressed from eight dollars, handbags from twelve dollars, designer

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<v Speaker 1>designer shoes, handbags from ten dollars. So it's basically just

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<v Speaker 1>going to like a regular e commerce shopping site, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting off of off is what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>In thirty five thousand brands. Imagine that thrift store. You

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<v Speaker 1>walk into a thirty five thousand brands, you turn around,

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<v Speaker 1>you walk right out. I can't handle that, But this

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<v Speaker 1>it's so simple. A thrift store with thirty five articles

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<v Speaker 1>of anything in there I think would be a little.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot. But that's what's nice about threat up

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<v Speaker 1>as you can again set those filters, figure out exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you're looking for. Um, you don't to spend all

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<v Speaker 1>those countless hours I guess, sifting through the racks at

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the thrift stores. So go to thread up dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash dean for an extra thirty percent off. They're already

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<v Speaker 1>great prices. Again, it's thread up dot com slash Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>thread up without an a t h R E. D

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<v Speaker 1>up dot com slash dean thread typically has an A

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<v Speaker 1>in it, but right here doesn't. For threat up A.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that th h R E d up also every

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<v Speaker 1>ID and goes to a twelve point quality inspection process.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are like new. You don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that these aren't necessarily new, because some

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<v Speaker 1>actually is brand new with the tag still on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't wait another minute, don't Thanks for guiding us through that, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, man, It's been my pleasure's emails. I

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<v Speaker 1>picked this one because I can relate to it. Hi

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<v Speaker 1>did and Mark and Erica and I wanted your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>on my current relationship. I've been dating the same guy

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<v Speaker 1>for two and a half years. I'm twenty five, he's thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love him, but things have never been easy.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had to work through a lot of differences in opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want kids. I do. He wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>a pastor, and I'm not interested in being a pastor's wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Though we are both religious, he's very conservative, I'm more

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<v Speaker 1>on the liberal side. I know opposites a track, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have had to have some real conversations and make

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<v Speaker 1>some real changes to work through all these things. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing great right now, but I can't help wondering when

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<v Speaker 1>the next this agreement is coming. I'm scared to walk

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<v Speaker 1>away and start over, even though we don't live together

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, and it would be a clean break. We're

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<v Speaker 1>definitely in a spot to take the next step in

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship, but I'm so nervous. I could see myself

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<v Speaker 1>spending the rest of my life with him, but is

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<v Speaker 1>it possible to be sure? Is it just cold feet?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not big on commitments, so maybe that's it. Love

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<v Speaker 1>the show and Dean congra outs on your new secret relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Selena, But that is hypothetical, Yes, the hypothetically

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<v Speaker 1>secret relationship. I picked this one because I when my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and I were first dating a long, long time ago,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago, she was very religious and I am

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<v Speaker 1>not very religious, and we were able to bridge that gap.

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<v Speaker 1>And the main way that we did is is by

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<v Speaker 1>respecting each other's views. Um, she didn't love it at

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<v Speaker 1>first that I wasn't a religious person, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>go to church with her to this day. Uh, from

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.239
<v Speaker 1>time to time we all go to church together as

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<v Speaker 1>a family with the two kids. So it's it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about respecting each other's opinions and not if I were

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>making fun of her or criticizing her beliefs or vice versa,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that's never gonna work. But as long as you respect

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<v Speaker 1>with the other person believes in. However, that was a

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>way we were able to bridge it. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot here that you disagree on. My thing

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<v Speaker 1>with this is she saying that she wants kids and

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>him saying he doesn't want kids. I think that's gonna

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>be a big hurdle for them. That alone is a

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>major problem. Yeah. I don't think it's obviously not first

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>hand or second hand experience, but I think I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>stories where, um, it's very similar to this, Like they

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<v Speaker 1>love each other, one wants kids, one doesn't want kids.

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>The one that wants kids thinks that eventually the other

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<v Speaker 1>one will want kids. He turns out not to want

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<v Speaker 1>kids ten twenty years from now, Um, and then she has,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, incredible like remorse and regret for not every

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<v Speaker 1>really being able to have those children. Um. I don't know.

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of that's a big that's a big,

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>big deal. It is because you're always going to want kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not going to change and even if he does

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<v Speaker 1>change his mind, he may not be the dad you

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>want him to be if he's not a guy that

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>wanted kids in the first place. Then there's the religious

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:04.120
<v Speaker 1>different it says. Then there's the political differences, which there

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>have been times in the history of America where that

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>was something you could overcome. But nowadays, if one of

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<v Speaker 1>you is really into Donald Trump and one of you

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>really really is not into Donald Trump, I'm not sure

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>how to make that work. As silly as that may seem,

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>it's just politics. Who cares, right, there's a lot of

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>fundamental differences here as it dominates the headlines every single day. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you don't have a daily argument

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>about what Trump is up to? What about the angel argument?

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Opposites attract and she she mentions that in there that

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>works with she's a little bit country, I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more rock and roll. I don't think it works

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<v Speaker 1>something like this. This is beyond that. I mean, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>but she did say that she's in love. She is

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in love two and a half years Erica. What do

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>you think here? I think this is awful and get out.

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Why are you if you don't want to be a

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>pastor's wife and he wants to be a pastor. That

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>to me is the biggest problem. I could never be

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a pastor's wife. That is just that is a role.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not like being, you know, a maleman's wife.

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<v Speaker 1>The pastor's wife is a role, right, Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big deals. That's funny. Do you ever I guess you

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>even not remember. But Milania Trump when when Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>elected president, he she was like I heard sobbing, like uncontrollable.

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>She was like, I never expected him to actually win,

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<v Speaker 1>right because the first ladies a role, right, And maybe

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>she didn't. Yeah, my gut is two and a half years,

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't live together. It's a clean break. It might

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>be time to make that break, and if it's meant

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>to be, you will find your way back to each

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>other and the compromises will be found. Unless Market I'm sorry,

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>unless East disagrees. I think we have a clear consensus.

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm on board. Get away from him right now, call

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>him up and right now, put this podcast on pause,

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and then resume the rest of it once you're done

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<v Speaker 1>with the phone call. Ah, this is I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>how to pronounce this one. I'm gonna I'm gonna guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's Oh, let's just go with this one. This is easier.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just from m M. I'm nineteen, pretty young, have

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<v Speaker 1>next to nodating experience. This isn't really a source of

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>angst for me, and that's what's kind of my issue.

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I think about the nebulous future. I would like to

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>one day have someone to spend it with. But my

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>problem is I have absolutely no desire to date. It's

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>not fear of putting myself out there. It's more like

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<v Speaker 1>I think about dating and I really can't imagine it

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<v Speaker 1>being something I want to do. I'm a sophomore in college,

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<v Speaker 1>a very rigorous school, super busy all the time, focusing

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>on myself, also quite introverted, as we talked about last week,

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and don't enjoy meeting new people, though I'm actually pretty

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>good with introduction and conversations. How do I get over this?

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been in a few dates. I don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>the experience to say if I like it or not.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Should I just wait and see if one day I

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>want to try it, or should I bite the bullet

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and make myself try? Help make yourself try? M. That's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I can empathize with her being an introvert

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>but being good with introductions and conversations, because I think

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>we talked about that last week in the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, I mean nineteen super young? Were you you

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>guys real all dating at nineteen? Right? Yeah? But I

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I like em and I feel like M's

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<v Speaker 1>doing it right. I don't know, am I crazy? I

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like she's focused on herself and school, and when

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you're nineteen, that's what you want to focus on, and

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it will happen. A guy is going to come and

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<v Speaker 1>ask you out and sweep you off your feet. I

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<v Speaker 1>would never I would never advise anyone to put school

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<v Speaker 1>in a back seat for dating. I think the fact

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that she's going to a rigor school and all that

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, that's and that's her priority. I think

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that's important. I think she should sick with that. But

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's like if she feels so

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<v Speaker 1>compelled to want to date someone, but I see, that's

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the thing is she doesn't. But I also think using

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the excuse of I'm so busy, like really, that sets

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you up for the rest of your life. I am

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so busy and I use that every day in my life.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go date because of it. So

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>she's setting herself up for being almost twenty five and

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>not wanting to go on dates. So you're saying, look

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>at me so much better than this. But I guess

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the point that I'm trying to make is that it

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>does it clearly bothers her that she's not dating. Well,

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.239
<v Speaker 1>she wrote the emails, and if it bothers her that much,

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>she should date. But she should never compromise anything else,

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>like her school or herself or her own She doesn't

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>have to quit well not. But like I'm saying, like

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 1>if she thinks going to a party or something will

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>allow her to start dating, but that's going to like

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice or doing her homework or something like that. You know,

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't like her going on tender bumble hinge, so

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>do you guys. I mean, I don't like that much

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>effort into it. I think that's a lot of time consumption,

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and for someone that doesn't already have a lot of time.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I also think that if we focus on ourselves, we

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>become better people. For which what is that? Sorry people

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>tell us all the time, and it's like, I know

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>plenty of really really awesome self aware of people, including myself,

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>who are single. Okay, I just feel like when you're nineteen,

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>she's still kind of becoming the woman she's going to

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>be and focusing on herself as a positive thing, and

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a great thing one day for

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy that she meets and falls in love with.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's two ways. There's two sides to it.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess do you think that someone that is very

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>clearly understanding of like who they are as a person

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>is easier to date than someone that's kind of more

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>like a blank canvas still trying to figure themselves out,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Because then for the person that they're dating, they're they're

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>able to have like these opinions and influences on that person.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise they're willing to bend and kind of like change

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>themselves a little bit too to make the other person happy.

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>So like there's there's kind of like two sides to

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that story. You know, Like if she's investing in herself,

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>then what she's gonna do, She's gonna come out of

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it more self aware, more understanding of who she is

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and what she wants. But that also kind of narrows

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>down the pool for her because she's going to have

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a smaller sliver of the people that she's gonna be

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>interested in, versus if she is going on more dates,

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna be like experiencing more things and like understanding

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that relationships a tway street where she has to give

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>some of herself and get some of them, all that

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. So I'm just saying there's two sides

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to it in a sense. True, that was really insightful. Thanks,

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>that's my one thing. Yeah, And I think I think,

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of course, no, I think Mark had an answer for her.

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>That's my answer to keep doing you. I honestly think

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that she. I think your wise. I think

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>she should stay off dating apps all that kind of stuff,

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think that she shouldn't dwell on the negative

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of not going on dates, but she also shouldn't shy

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>away from any possibility of going on one. In college, too,

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you're surrounded by guys. Some of the guys gonna ask

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you out, or you're gonna get interested in the guy,

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>find yourself having feelings, and this will all blossom. And

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal with college. You're in college for four years,

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>in my case five years. You don't get another opportunity

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>like that again in your life. It's like it's an

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>opportunity where, yes, of course you have to work hard

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 1>to go to school get good grade so you can

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>have a good career, but it's also a time where

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you can like explore yourself and like figure out and

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>like have fun and obviously like be like a little

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>bit less inhividit than you're gonna have to be later

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>on in life. Kendall writes, Hi, Dean Mark and Easton

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and I love your podcasts and when one of your

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>early podcasts you mentioned you were in areas, and so

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>am I and ever since then, I totally relate to

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>what you have to say and the way you view things.

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So maybe we should all maybe they should know what

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>we all are so they can relate to all of us. Erica,

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>You're an area eastern Scorpio and I'm a cancer, just

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>so everyone knows. I've been in a relationship almost five years.

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>We started dating in college, hit it off right away.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Our relationship has been great. I definitely see a future

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>with him. I'm almost twenty four, about to start my

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>career in the next chapter of my life. He's twenty seven,

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's having a more difficult time finding what he

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>wants to do with his career. I feel this is

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>hindering him from wanting to make the next step in

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>our relationship, moving in together, engagement, whatever it may be.

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you need all this right away, but

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to know that this is something he will

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>want as well. My question is do you think a

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>person needs to be settled in their career, life and

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>financially in order to make the next big step in

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>a relationship. Thank you for your time. Keep providing us

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>with excellent podcasts to listen to. That's Kendall with One

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>L Coming with One L. Yeah. I don't want to

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>feel that one right away because I feel like I'm

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the least authoritative on that subject. All right. I think

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty authoritative on it actually because um and maybe

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>just because I always do. But I was dating my

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>wife who was very young. We started dating she was

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>eighteen and I was twenty six, and so it was

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>now at this point she was twenty two when I

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>was thirty, and I was not by any stretch where

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be in my career. In fact, in fact,

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I was working at Disneyland doing what hosting the who

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>wants to be a Millionaire show at Disney's California Adventure,

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>which was a great By the way, that was the

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>best job I've ever had in my life without any

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>questions to date, and because it was nothing but fun. Anyway,

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the point is that I knew that wasn't a long

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 1>term position. It was a show. It was gonna end,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and that would be that. So I wasn't where I

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be. I didn't have any money. She was

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>about to start going to more Park College UH an

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>animal training program they have which is really neat but

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 1>really intensive for two years. It was not the time

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>for me to propose, but I had to because there

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was no question in my mind that we were going

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to be together forever. So I even in the speech

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I gave her when I proposed, which she probably didn't

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>really understand because I was crying. Um, I was a mess.

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>But what I was saying was I know that we're

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>not where we want to be financially, professionally, anything, but

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't care about any of that because I just

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>want to be with you forever. So I guess my

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>point is in his mind, he may be thinking that way,

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>but I hope he's not, because if he's sure about you,

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>that that's all that should matter. It shouldn't matter what

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of situation your careers are in. That's my opinion

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>as far as advice for you. You know, I'm not

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>sure how you have the conversation with him, because that's

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of an awkward thing to bring up. But that

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>may be where his head is, that he does want

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>to marry her, or that he needs some time. He

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>may feel like I can't go to her dad and

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>say I want her hand in marriage when he's in debt,

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>or he's Did you go to Amy's father and he

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>was okay with it? Yes, he's very nice about him,

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>even though I was so much older and had long hair.

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I think generally speaking, the person you guys

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 1>don't need to be settled in your career. I think

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.720
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of silly to say, like you can't propose

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to someone or be engaged until you're settled in your

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>career and like you understand what your your life and

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>your finances are going to be, like all that kind

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. To Mark's point, like, once you know you're

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna spend your life with someone, why not start spending

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>it with him as soon as possible, in spite of

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:03.399
<v Speaker 1>not being exactly where you want to be in your life,

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, yeah, and that's all that matters.

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, but I understand a guy. Guys get overwhelmed

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>with that. Yeah. I mean I waited about a year

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.439
<v Speaker 1>after I knew that I wanted to propose salison because

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I was because I was telling my friends like,

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>when I get you, say, hey, once you come with

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>my studio apartment. You know, I just I didn't have

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 1>any money, you know, my my career was in a

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>spot I was happy with, but I wanted to see

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 1>how many more levels I could get to. And then, uh,

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I finally I was like, I just got to do this.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>And I went and talked to her parents and they

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.879
<v Speaker 1>were like, what took you so long? Were you living

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>by yourself? Mark? Were you you were living by yourself too? Right? Yes?

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>We we we moved in together actually right before I proposed.

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point, I guess, because you're typically and

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>again I'm kind of flipping this back up myself because

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I've never lived by myself. Oh, I'm so far from

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>any of this. So you live you ever, mit, Mat

0:38:55.840 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and I have no relationships. I guess my would you

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>guys have ever considered proposing to your girlfriends at the

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>time had you not lived with them? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>oh but she but I'm sure you guys were staying

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>on together often. Yeah, we spell all the time. We

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>weren't living together though, until after I proposed. We moved

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>in before I proposed. She didn't know I was about

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.240
<v Speaker 1>to propose, but I didn't. That made me more comfortable.

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>As far as her parents were against it, they didn't.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>They were fine with us. They were fine with me,

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>but moving in together for marriage they were not okay with.

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>And I knew they were mad about it. But in

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>my back of my mind, I know, it's literally a

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>week and I'm going to propose and everything's gonna be fine.

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And it was. So did you tell them before you

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>moved in with No, I didn't. They had to deal

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>with that for a few days. Yeah, you just wanted

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>to string them along. No. I just needed the right time.

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I needed the right situation. We were going up. We

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>went up to San Francisco for Labor Day weekend, and

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I asked her up there, how does the timing of

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it all work? How how long did you wait before

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>between asking her father and then proposing. I went quick

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>because her mom is a bit of a blabber mouse,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so I was worried that it was everyone was gonna know.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>So I think I asked day we were leaving on

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the trip, and that was before cell phones, sorry, And

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>so I knew if I could get Amy out of

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 1>town without talking to her mom, I knew we'd be okay. Yeah. Uh,

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I think my name was about three months because I

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>mine was kind of in a I did on Catalan Island,

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and I had my buddies, a professional photographer. I had

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>him like planted in the bushes to take pictures of

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the moment side to make sure it was a time

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>where like the three of us could get over there

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and like there's my they have a vacation house there.

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>That mad to make sure it was clear. There's things

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 1>that went into it. So it took some planning, but

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to make sure the big because I knew

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>they were going to say yes, like they give me

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>their blessing, but just in case they didn't, I needed

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>some time to recuperate from that, right, I forget what

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>this spun off from. I think, uh, It's just funny

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>to think about because I've never by myself and now

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 1>that has Erica. So it's like, I feel like that's

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a necessary uh step that everyone has

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>to take before they're even ready to post it someone

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Just it's hard for me to imagine proposing to someone,

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>or like even a guy proposing to some girl when

0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that guy has you know, two or three friends that

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>he lives within a house with about her. That's a

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>good point. Well, I guess you have toally have to

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>plan to be getting a place with them. You don't

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:06.919
<v Speaker 1>have to buy a house in this day and age.

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't have to be a mandatory married situation these days,

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you really can't. Um, Okay, I've got one more here.

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Let me just sum this one up. This is I

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>think is pronounced a lease. And basically she met a

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>guy over the summer and it was great and they

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>clicked and it was amazing and he was a gentleman

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and smart, determined and fun and really listened to her,

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>which is an interesting compliment to make and guys should

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>take note of that. Anyway, such a healthy emotional connection.

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Things were perfect. He got an offer, a job offer

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 1>in the Grand Cayman Islands that he couldn't turn down.

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a two year deal. There's no bad blood, but

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they did end up just they decided to end it. Uh.

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>He left in November and she can't stop thinking about him.

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>She's been going on on dates, but she's having a

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>really hard time because she compares every guy to the

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 1>guy that left. She knows that that's wrong, she knows

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>she shouldn't compare these people, but she can't help it.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't feel for them when she felt for him,

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 1>and she wants that again. So she asks, do you

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>think do you think it would be this hard to

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>get over him if it wasn't meant to be? Two

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>years is a long time and he could be a

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>completely different person by then. Or maybe it'll work out.

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>But I know if I know, it won't if I

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 1>spend the next two years waiting around? Who would want

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>to be with someone who did that? Help I Suck

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a Dating? See they're dropping it? I mean people like

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>this Turtle ps what if Tanya's podcast called She's Hysterical?

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Tanya is on Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly as well

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>occasionally on Help I Suck a Dating with the Angler

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and I heard radio podcast and I heard radio podcast.

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>And of course she's on on air with Ryan Seacrest

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.919
<v Speaker 1>every morning on Kissing Them on Los Angeles Channel, Levin

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 1>on Sirius X. It's a lot of times find radio

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>stations across the country. If you're interested in Tanya, you'll

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>find its handle is Tanya Rad. That Tanya Rad. All right,

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>So what do we tell Elise I feel really bad

0:42:55.719 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>for Elise is do you think that it's hard to

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>get over if we weren't meant to be? I think

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>that she so her question was, yeah, So her question,

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>just to repeat, was do you think it'd be hard,

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that's hard to get over him if it weren't meant

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to be? And I think that it can totally be

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>hard to get over someone if it was still wasn't

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>meant to be with them. And just because you're I mean,

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just human nature to compare that every

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 1>subsequent relationship with the one that you had the most

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>feelings for. In my opinion, it's not like it's not

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>necessarily a matter of you guys were soulmates. Maybe you are.

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say that you you were, but um,

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:30.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, you spend a lot of time with someone,

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>you grow a connection with them, and then once you

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>guys have to break up, especially for something like this,

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>where it's not like you guys broke up because you

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily want to be together. It's kind of more

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of just a matter of of proximity. UM, if you,

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>if you, definitely, I think you're able to get over him.

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be challenging, but I think probably, like even

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>twelve months in, you're gonna be realizing that, Um, it's

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>not going to be incredibly difficult to get over him,

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I think. So I think that, Um, I think the

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>time will tell. We've all had very difficult breakups in

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>our life, and then you get older, and all of

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>my breakups clearly were not meant to be because I'm

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>very happy with my wife. So even though at a

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>terrible time with those breakups, clearly those weren't the right

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>person for me. So time will tell. But I also

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>think you answer your own question when you say, I

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>know it's not going to work out. If I spend

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>the next two years waiting around, you clearly don't want

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>to do that, So don't do that. Go out there

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>date two years from now, maybe you'll be with somebody else,

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe you won't, but we'll deal with you the the

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>elease of two thousand November two tho nineteen. We'll deal

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>with her at the time and see if she's ready

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>for him for somebody else. My feeling is you're going

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to find somebody else and maybe it's not going to

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>be the same as with this guy, but it's gonna

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>be fantastic. It's gonna be different, but it's going to

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>be great Erica whole thing. Eric is more um like

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>cynical and straight to it. What do you so, what's

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>your thought here? No? I just I actually in this case,

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like talk to him every day. Who cares? You

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 1>want to keep it alive? Two years is not that

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 1>long in the grand scheme of things, to be honest.

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 1>It's taken me like hip, Well, she's okay, okay, so

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>that's hard, but who cares? She sells plenty of times

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>have babies after eight. But I think we need to

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>know what he's thinking. If she's going to do that right,

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 1>she would have to have conversations with him. She can't

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 1>just wait around and be like, I don't know. I

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 1>hope in two years he calls me, because if they're

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:21.720
<v Speaker 1>texting all the time and talking all the time. Okay,

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. But if she's texting, I think what his

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>responses to that is. I don't think they're talking at

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>all right now. If it was really really meant to be,

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>then this job offer, no matter how good it was,

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.919
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have pulled him away for two years to allow

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>them to end their relationship. Interesting never lets him when

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I was dating, not take the best job offer of

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>their life because you haven't been in love yet with

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the person that you're gonna marry. Okay, have you been

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>in love? I think so. Yeah. Dean isn't saying he

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have taken the job. Dean is saying that the

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>universe would not have given this job if you two

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>were meant to be right, and even if it did

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>give it to him, if he felt the way, if

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he felt it was the one, if if she was

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.359
<v Speaker 1>the one, then he would have turned down the job offer. Look,

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I hate that every single email that comes in I

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 1>have a personal story for but I do Amy, and

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I already gether. Six months and I moved to Los Angeles.

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I had already planned on doing it. We were in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I had already planned on it before I met Amy,

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>so we met. I told her from the beginning, fell

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>in love. Leaving sucked so bad, but I had to

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 1>do it because my whole life would have wondered what

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:27.280
<v Speaker 1>if I had gone to l A. What could have happened.

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I could have hosted, uh that, a phony game

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>show at a theme park. Maybe I could have met

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Dean Angler one day and been on his podcast. So

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>many possibilities that wouldn't have happened if I hadn't moved

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 1>to Los Angeles. Anyway, the point is, she ended up

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>following me out here, a little different because grand came

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.320
<v Speaker 1>in Islands just a two two year thing. But she

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>ended up coming out here and that worked out really nicely.

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>But we also didn't We also didn't say we're gonna

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>keep seeing each other, but you didn't really break up.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 1>We didn't really break up either. We just kind of

0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>let it linger. I don't know, I feel like I

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's such a rare example, because I feel

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>like typically that wouldn't end well, but in this case,

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it did. But I'm saying that the universe still sent

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>me to l A, and it's still fate found a

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.359
<v Speaker 1>way to bring us together. So with Elise and the guy,

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Fate will bring you together. If it's meant to be,

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta do your thing. But it's it's I

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's kind of unfair of you to say,

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of and I'm probably gonna contradict myself here,

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Please God. It's easy to look back with hindsight and

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:26.959
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, fate is what led that to happen,

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>or fate is what led that to be where we

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 1>are now when like when you were living it, I'm

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>sure you're like, what going on? Like, I don't know

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>if this is a good idea part of my cursing. Um,

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like what when all that stuff is going on?

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you and Elise, I'm sorry you and Amy

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>we're questioning things just as much as a lease and

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this guy is. So it's like it's challenging to I mean,

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I guess what you're blessed with now is perspective because

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you've been through it and you obviously aren't a very

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>successful and healthy and healthy and happy relationship. Um, but

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 1>when so much is uncertain in the future, it's like,

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>right when Elise is already she'll it'll all makes sense

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to her, but now it's hard to look exactly. That's

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying that there's like a million different I'm sorry,

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 1>like an infinite number of outcomes from this, and until

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 1>she actually lives it and understands where she wants to

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>go and what and when she's actually looking back on it,

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is really the only moment she's going to realize whether

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>it was a good decision or not a good decision.

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>So what's her advice for her? I think that she

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>should move on. I think she she should start. Erica says,

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm open to her pursuing other relationships, but I don't

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.359
<v Speaker 1>think block this guy out completely. If he reaches out,

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe you should talk and sure, but if she's going

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>on dates, clinging onto this guy who's in the band

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>came in irons for two years, maybe I shouldn't be talking.

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:41.240
<v Speaker 1>She's self sabotaging in that sense, and so she should.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>She should go into every new relationship with kind of

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>like a blank canvas, a clean slate, and allow it

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to unfold. It's difficult because I mean, I think we're

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>all guilty of comparing new relationships old relationships. But when

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 1>you remember an old relationship, at least in my case.

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 1>All you tend to do is romanticize it and remember

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the good things and you forget about all the negative things.

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's like when you look back at yourself in

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the moment of those relationships, you're like, I remember being miserable,

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna think about the happy times instead, which,

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 1>by the way, is a crazy thing that our brain does.

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, so maybe she'll find someone regardless, maybe

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>this guy comes back and he calls her and she

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 1>happens to be single. You really think it's going to happen.

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I have so much hope for these two. And I

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>don't even know this guy. Eric is a cynic, but

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>she's a romantic at the same time. Visit him in

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Cayman, Irelands because a great trip, the beautiful thing.

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Why Okay, So here's an experience or a story from

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>my personal experience, not firsthand, secondhand. One of my great friends, Um,

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I've talked about it on this podcast before.

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 1>He just moved to Mumbai, India, probably in October of

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>last year, and he was he was dating this girl

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 1>for four years in Los Angeles. They were in love

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 1>with each other. He so he relocated to Mumbai for work.

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>He got a job offer to open up Amazon unscripted

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 1>studio out in Mumbai. UM and his girlfriend, who had

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>dated him and is very much a relationship type woman,

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, my boyfriend is moving to Mumbai and

0:49:58.000 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>we're going to break up because of that. What do

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I do? So she moved to Australia and like they

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>were talking for a couple of weeks after they had

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>both moved, and then after talking to him about it,

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>he was like, no, it was like unfair of us

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to continue to talk, because what we really need to

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 1>do is people to like dive into our current environments

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and find someone and and like not really allow ourselves

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to hold each other back in that sense. So it's like,

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 1>and now she is in another serious relationship with a guy.

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Um I haven't talked to her, and you know he's

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>enjoying himself out in Mumbai. But I guess the point

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:28.359
<v Speaker 1>of it is, it's like by clinging onto those those

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>relationships knowing that it might not necessarily work out and

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 1>at least like the um um current time with what

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for the short term, the intermediaries at a word,

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:46.320
<v Speaker 1>in the interim, UM it's it's they're like self sabotaging

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:48.200
<v Speaker 1>in that sense, and they're like not allowing themselves to

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>fully move on. You're right about that. If Amy hadn't

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:53.279
<v Speaker 1>moved out here, eventually that conversation would have had to happen,

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like why are we still talking? What are we doing?

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Because you're right, you're clinging onto something that's not happening,

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and you're not allowing yourself to move on, not allow yourself. Yes,

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but that case, obviously it moved out. So maybe if

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>at least want to move to the Grand came In Islands.

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:08.879
<v Speaker 1>But it's only two years. That's a major, major deal

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I want. But that's what That's what I wonder about

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>is if she does visit, maybe it's amazing for a week,

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's when she realizes, man, this is the

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:21.360
<v Speaker 1>real deal. I'm Maybe they have a conversation about that

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and think, man, we really do love each other. Let's

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>make this work. Let's FaceTime this and this, and let's

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>text and let's do all this stuff. Let's try to

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>make this work. Or maybe she gets there and she's like, well,

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 1>he's clearly that was fun, but yeah, not as new

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it as I am. Or maybe she guess there's you know,

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't as great as I remember it being. The

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.720
<v Speaker 1>problem is she could come back from an amazing vacation

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 1>being like, that was the worst trip of my life,

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:41.839
<v Speaker 1>but it was the grand came in Islands. How bad

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:43.879
<v Speaker 1>could it be? I mean, when you're heartbroken, it could

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 1>be pretty bad. I guess we keep forgetting that. The

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship wasn't very serious before they even left. It was

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of a summer fling. But she said it was perfect.

0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Why don't she should do all summer flings perfect? What

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.840
<v Speaker 1>should she do? She should send him a man create

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's on the beach fledgehammering it open, not crowbarring. Sorry,

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 1>very good. That's what you should start doing instead of

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>sending guys gifts of the sub seal on bumble, ask

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 1>them for their address and send them a man create

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>right away. That you know that can add up real quick. Yeah, well,

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you want to how you can save money? Use codeine

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you have five percent off. Perfect um. Eric, I don't

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>know if you know what a man create is, but

0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 1>let me talk about this first. Okay, So man create. Basically,

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>what a man create is is a perfect gift for

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>any guy. It's a gift curated for um, the significant

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>other in your life and honestly, anyone, your brother, your father,

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Mark and Studio loves the salami crate. Just love salami,

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, bring it on. Its definitely my favorite deli meat. Yeah,

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and I bet the salami bouquet has different kinds of

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>salami in it. I'm just assuming maybe some pepperoni too,

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>But oh yeah, so you want to what's funny about

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 1>salami and pepperoni? Which no one's really gonna understand this reference,

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm probably just gonna make myself sound incredibly weird.

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Salami and pepperoni are both the list, but they're both

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.839
<v Speaker 1>uniquely different. You guys, do you guys ever play Mortal

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Kombat back in the day, Scorpion and sub Zero very

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 1>similar but uniquely different, so identical except for different colors

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 1>when Solar salamian pepperoni when you slice him. And whenever

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I think about salami or pepperoni, I think about Scorpion

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>versus sub Zero. It's the weirdest thing. I don't know why,

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>because salami is like in a it's it's it's it's

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.760
<v Speaker 1>like a it's like a pink purple e like Patty

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>looking thing. You're just talking about like the substance of it,

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 1>like like this like a sliced Salammi or slice pepperoni,

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and Pepperoni is like a sliced red little patty thing.

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 1>And Scorpion was like a yellow skeleton with the thing

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 1>over his mask, and sub Zero was the same with

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the blue over his face. Anyways, that's sorry to get

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:45.239
<v Speaker 1>off topic. You will not get Scorpion or sub Zero

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:47.240
<v Speaker 1>in your man Create, but you could get the salami bouquet,

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 1>like Mark legs Um I read. There's a lot of

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>these that I would like. Amy likes the Moscow Mui one.

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 1>My my roommates girlfriend actually just sent him one for

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>his birthday recently and he was obsessed with it. He

0:53:57.560 --> 0:53:59.399
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. He got the crate before I had left

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>to come taped this podcast, and he was like, what

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the hell is this? Like, I don't know, I have

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 1>to go. I'm sorry, and I got back. I was

0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like getting text from the entire time I was here.

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I got back, He's like, dude, I've been trying so

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 1>hard to open this create. I can't get it open.

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, why would she send you

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a crate that you're not able to open, and he

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>was like he was like obsessing about it. He said

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 1>it was like one of the most fun things he

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>had to figure out how to open um. What's funny, too,

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:19.920
<v Speaker 1>is they include a crowbar because you actually need the

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:22.760
<v Speaker 1>crow bar to crank it open and get inside. So anyways,

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 1>if you go to man Creates dot com slash Dean,

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you get five percent off. They don't offer that discount

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:32.399
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else. So make make whatever guy in your life

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you want happy, whether you just spend him on bumble,

0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.319
<v Speaker 1>whether you want to surprise him in the Grand came

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.839
<v Speaker 1>in Iron Dad or Valentine's Day. I mean, there's lots

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities. I gotta admit I was cynical about man crates.

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a manly man. I don't drink beer. I

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.720
<v Speaker 1>don't drink alcohol. I don't like I'm not I don't hunt,

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't fish. I'm not like you know, like I

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like I was thinking these are gonna be for

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>like manly guys. This isn't gonna be for me. So

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I went on there and I scrolled through it and

0:54:56.640 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh I want that. Oh that'd be great. Well,

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 1>can I have that there's so much because it is.

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>It really is for every guy. Game night crate that

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>is for me. It's games and popcorn and cookies like

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that is great for me. Old school crate, Rubik's Cube, Slinkys,

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:16.240
<v Speaker 1>all these fun toys and Yo Yo's baseball stuff. I love.

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I love Asian for me. I didn't expect to love these,

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 1>but there's plenty for me. There's something for everybody, I

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 1>promise so specific. There's even a troutdoorsman crate. I like

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:31.320
<v Speaker 1>to fish, but only trout and there's a crate for me.

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Long have we been ignored? Not anymore? So there you

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 1>have it everyone. There's a crate for every occasion, even

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 1>for the troutsman in your family. Got a man creates

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.320
<v Speaker 1>dot com slash Dean for five percent off, and I

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>promise you ever you get it for is gonna love it.

0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Where will you be watching the super Bowl this weekend,

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Dean Um, I'm traveling to Tahoe this weekend, uh with

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.799
<v Speaker 1>someone we might have discussed on this podcast this week

0:55:57.160 --> 0:55:59.239
<v Speaker 1>hypothetically and quite a few of my friends. We're gonna

0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 1>be up, so we're gonna skin, We're gonna be doing

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff Actually it's funny because that's where

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.839
<v Speaker 1>they filmed one of Ari's episodes of The Bachelor this year. Um,

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 1>but anyways, thanks for tuning in, thanks for listening to Wait,

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna watch the game? They're yeah, okay, fun like

0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of people. Yeah, who's your pick? Patriots

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.920
<v Speaker 1>or Eagles? I think Patriots are gonna win. That's a party.

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 1>That's a party. Who do you guys want to win?

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm only rooting for the Eagles only because I'm tired

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:25.839
<v Speaker 1>of the Patriots winning every week, which every year, which

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I know is not a great argument, but I don't

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 1>have a real passion for hither team. And the Eagles

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 1>have never won the Super Bowl and they have really

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 1>good fans. They have a really devoted fans, so I

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 1>think they'd be cool for Philadelphis. Are all so crazy,

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a little crazy. Yeah. I hate myself for saying this

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a Broncos fan. I hate the Patriots, always have,

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:42.960
<v Speaker 1>but there's just something about how good they are that

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I almost kind of want to root for them, you know,

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm a big fan of an underdog all the time,

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>but they're just like to continuously cement Tom Brady and

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick's legacy. It's impressive, There's no question, it's very impressive.

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I hate myself that I'm even wanting them to win. Well,

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>last week LIVELTI, last year against Atlanta cemented their cemented

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 1>it for me unfortunate and here they are back again. Yeah,

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>well that'll be good. Well enjoy Dean. Thanks. Can I

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 1>ask you what you're doing? My parents are in town,

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:07.840
<v Speaker 1>so we'll be watching the game of my house. I

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>have a tradition with my kids. They go play and

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>then I say girls commercials and they come and they

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>watch the commercials with me, and then they and then

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>they come for the halftime show. That sounds exactly like

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 1>my childhood. And now I watched the games, Um yeah,

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 1>playing like soccer outside and then it's like the yeah

0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 1>they're playing Barte. The commercials they get worse and worse.

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>They're just too cheesy. They're so they're I don't know,

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 1>they're just so over the top they are. I can't

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>handle him. Well, we're not gonna argue with you on that. Okay,

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:39.920
<v Speaker 1>there's something for everybody watching that about you. I'm not

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that big in football, not big into sports. I just

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 1>bought a bunch of I keya furniture, so I'm gonna

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>put that together on Super Bowl Sale. After the passing

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of the founder, No we we did raise Adele and

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and Allen Wrench in his memory, though his spirit lives

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 1>on in house. Yes every room. Um, all right, well,

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>thanks again for tuning in. And I was medtally in

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>a bad mood when this podcast started. I'm still not

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>entirely over it. We've got a lot of talking to

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 1>do behind the scenes. But your emails really definitely helped

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>perk me up. I definitely always appreciate them again, and

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:15.160
<v Speaker 1>take everything that I say with the big grain of salt,

0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 1>but take everything Mark says with a little bit more serious.

0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Lord to keep those emails coming. I suck at dating

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>at i heeart media dot com. Next week we're gonna

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 1>talk to a meditation expert help me get in the

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>right headspace for this show. And I've I've meditated before.

0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I've actually I've worked a lot with headspace. Um. They

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>used to be a client of mine here in Los Angeles. Uh,

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's hard for me to focus. I think is

0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is this year that I have with meditating. But it's

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 1>funny if you look at all the successive people and

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>basically and in any industry, the one common denominat that

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>they all have is that they meditate and and they

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 1>swear by it, so it could be interesting. We'll see

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>how that goes. Um, thank you again for tuning into

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>this week's episode. Thanks to Erica Mark Easton for for

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.200
<v Speaker 1>being here. UM. I'm gonna leave Amy out again because

0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little annoyed, So tune in next week for

0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:02.600
<v Speaker 1>another episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Thank you

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 1>for listening. Um, maybe next week we'll have a different title.

0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:10.320
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