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Julian Strather comes into this one 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: and scores fifteen points for a Nuggets team that desperately 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: needed someone to come in and start hitting shots. 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: As a team. 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: The Nuggets finally started to hit their catch and shoot 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: threes in this game, as they go twelve for thirty 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: two from three thirty eight percent, a high step up 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: from where they've been in their losses in the series. 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray also excellent in a game when he woke 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: up very sick and was questionable to start the game. 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: Another nightmare shooting performance for the Oklahoma City Thunder, another 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: example of their youth showing in terms of j dubs inconsistency. 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: Lots of interesting stuff to get into in this game 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: from the perspective of both teams. 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Make sure you guys follow 75 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: us there and the last but not at least, keep dropping 76 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: those mail bag questions in the YouTube chat there and 77 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: we will get to them at the tail end of 78 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: the show for a solid ten fifteen minutes. And like 79 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier, over to playback dot tv slash Hoops Tonight. 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: When we finish up here a right, let's talk some basketball. 81 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: So I thought that was really the theme for tonight's 82 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: game for Denver, the need to hit shots. If you 83 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: go back to the last two games in particular, it 84 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: was their offense that let them down down the stretch, 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: leading Game four, nine point leading Game five in the 86 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and just an inability to close the deal 87 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: from there, and specifically in Game five, not a single 88 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: Nugget was able to really contribute offensively in that fourth 89 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: quarter run when Yokic was setting them up. I mean, 90 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: I saw a stat this morning and I double checked 91 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: it to make sure it was fair but accurate. But 92 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: he had twenty potential assists in Game five and ended 93 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: that game with five assists because of the types of shots. 94 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: They were missing. 95 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: Even if you really zoom in on that fourth quarter run, 96 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: there's a couple of wide open threes for Christian Brown. 97 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: There's a wide open three for Jamal Murray in the 98 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: right corner. And this is a team that typically shoots 99 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: really well. They shot thirty nine percent on wide open threes. 100 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: This is for NBA dot Com tracking data. This is 101 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: with the defender minimum of six feet away, So these 102 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: are like really open threes. They shot thirty nine percent 103 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: on them in the regular season, forty percent in the 104 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: first round series against the Clippers in the first five 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: games of this series. 106 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: In the three losses in the three losses in this 108 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: series so far, the Nuggets or a combined fifteen for 109 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: sixty six on wide open threes. That's just twenty three percent. 110 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: I thought there was an interesting interview brought to light 111 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: by the broadcast about Christian Brown and now he was 112 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: just kind of like evaluating the way he's performed so 113 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: far in this postseason or really in this entire season, 114 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: and he said, like, you know, I had a great 115 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: regular season. Can't really play any better than I did. 116 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: And he's right about that. He did a great job 117 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: stepping in for Contavious Calbo Pope into that starting two 118 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: guard role and turned into this devastating transition scorer who 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: also was a solid catch and shoot player, good defensive player, 120 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And then he said in the postseason, 121 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: he's happy with the way he's defended. It's been a 122 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: little bit of a mixed bag in this Okay seat 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: a series, but specifically at the end of games I 124 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: feel like he's been pretty good outside of maybe a 125 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: couple plays at the tail end of Game five, but 126 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: he has been pretty good defensively in this series. But 127 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: what he said was, I have to find a way 128 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: to knock down these open threes that I'm getting A 129 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: big part of it is just that's the way the 130 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: defense is attending to Nikola Jokic in the middle of 131 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: the floor. They are conceding these open threes, especially out 132 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 2: of the corner. And what I appreciated about what Christian 133 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: Brown was saying is like he understands that they're yeah, 134 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: you're playing fine, Yeah it's physical. 135 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no one's really shooting. Well. 136 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of thunder guys sitting in 137 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: the locker room wishing they should shoot or could shoot better. 138 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: But the bottom line is Christian knows they have a 139 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: really good chance to win this series if guys make shots. 140 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: And the thing that I thought stood out the most 141 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: in that little tidbit provided by the broadcast was when 142 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: Christian said, I got two games to figure it out. 143 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: One just the confidence knowing that he believed in his 144 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: team to win Game six, but also just understanding that 145 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: he can flip the script by making shots. And I'm 146 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: highlighting Christian Brown just because of the comments from the broadcast, 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: but it was down the line, guys for Denver finally 148 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: just made shots. They shot thirty eight percent as a team. 149 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: Christian Brown was three for six from three. Jamal Murray 150 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: was two for six from three. He was fantastic tonight. 151 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: We'll talk about him here in a minute. Playing dealing 152 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: with an illness. Michael Porter Junior finally got a couple 153 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: shots to go down, and then Julian Strather. He also 154 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: made some other plays. He had this baseline cut, a 155 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: really impressive finish that three sixty kind of like lob 156 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: finish she had from Jamal Murray. Way tougher shot than 157 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: that looks on TV because he's right at the front 158 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: of the rim. But to coordinate yourself in traffic like that, well, 159 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: I guess he wasn't in traffic, but again, to coordinate 160 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: himself on a spin where he can't even see the 161 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: rim to then find the rim and lay it in, 162 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: that was a really impressive finish. He had a play 163 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: where he kind of ended up with the ball, kind 164 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: of a classic grenade situation where he ended up with 165 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: the ball at the top of the key against jadub 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: in a late shot clock situation, and all the other 167 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: guys on the floor kind of just looked at him, 168 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: like you do it. He put the ball on the 169 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: floor and made a play and drew a and I 170 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: think I think specifically those things are you know, kind 171 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: of found money in a certain way. But the shot 172 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: making is the important part. Him stepping confidently into semi contested, intense, 173 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: high stakes threes in that second half run and hitting 174 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: three of them, two big ones in the late third 175 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: quarter at another one when things were kind of already 176 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: in hand in the fourth quarter. All those shots were 177 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: super important. And the reason why this is specifically important 178 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: for this matchup is we spent a lot of time 179 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: talking on playback and and in the broadcast after Game 180 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: five about how the Nuggets kind of seemed to be 181 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: dealing with a fifth closer problem. We talked about Russell Westbrook. 182 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he he made a big play tonight in 183 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: the in the late third quarter that we'll touch on 184 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: in a minute, but he had a nightmare first quarter 185 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: and in general just has been just uneven over the 186 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: tail end of this series. So he's not a great option. 187 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior, as we discussed two nights ago, has 188 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: just been incapable of knocking down open threes while also 189 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: bringing some defense and rebounding issues to the table. So 190 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: like there wasn't like a legitimate option to go for. 191 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: We actually were talking on the broadcast about Peyton Watson 192 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: because at the very least Peyton Watson would be able 193 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: to defend and grab rebounds and at least just be 194 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: an athletic presence on the floor if you're not going 195 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: to get any sort of shooting from anywhere down the roster. 196 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: But like he just you know, that shooting stretch from 197 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: Julian Strawther just gives Adalman another option that he can consider. 198 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: Should Michael Porter Junior struggle in game seven, Should Russell 199 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: Westbrook struggle in game seven? You know, should Peyton Watson 200 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: struggle in game seven? If he needs like a guy 201 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: that can just be out there, that can hit a shot. 202 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: He has his struggles defensively from time to time, but 203 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: it's not like there's anybody who's doing an amazing job 204 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: defensively in this series. Containing the ball that was kind 205 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: of the story of the game for Okay. See, I 206 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: thought Tim Legler did an amazing job in the broadcast 207 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: breaking down the way that Oklahoma City was penetrating the 208 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: shell of Denver zone, which is putting Jokic and all 209 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: these like simple like do I have to step up 210 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: to this guy who's dry being in just give up 211 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: a baseline cut for an easy dunk, or am I 212 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: gonna stay back on my heels and let this dude 213 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: just drive right into my face and make a layup? 214 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: Like he Jokich was putting a lot of compromising positions 215 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: just simply because the shell of the Denver defense wasn't holding, 216 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: and so having another option is a guy that, like, 217 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: at least you're getting some shot making out of him. 218 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting thing to keep an eye on, 219 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: uh heading into game seven. But again, like these are 220 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: these are the shots that are gonna be there with 221 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: the way that Oklahoma City is just swarming Yokic in 222 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: the middle of the floor, and I thought that was 223 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: really the story of the game tonight. Denver's young guys, 224 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: Denver's veterans, Denver's role players confidently stepping into shots and 225 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: knocking them down when their team desperately needed them to 226 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 2: hit shots. Let's talk about Jamal Murray for a minute. 227 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: I I was venting in an unserious manner with Jackson 228 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: during the game because I watched a certain player for 229 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: my favorite team play with an illness in Game three 230 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: of the Minnesota Timberwolve series, and there was just like 231 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: no competitive fire at all. It was almost like Luca 232 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: just kind of wanted us all to know he was sick, 233 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: and I don't. I don't want to be you know too. 234 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to jump to conclusion, so to speak, 235 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: because you never know how sick Luca was or how 236 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: sick Jamal was. But both players were questionable. Both players 237 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: attempted to play, and I thought there was an obvious 238 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: competitive fire with Jamal right away when he came into 239 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: the game, and there were some stretches where he lost 240 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: seen there's a stretch there in that second quarter where 241 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: you can tell he was getting to him a little bit. 242 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: Case on Wallace had some success, he had a couple turnovers, 243 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: but like he came right out the gates and was 244 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: aggressive both in his pull up shooting situations and going 245 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: to the basket. And you could see, like Jamal, if 246 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: you didn't know Jamal Murray was sick, you would have 247 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: no idea watching that game. There was no you know, 248 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: kind of poudy body language or like exaggerating the symptoms 249 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: that he was dealing with. He was like, fuck all that, 250 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: I my team needs me to win this game. And 251 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: he went out there and just immediately brought that competitive 252 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: fire and may play after play after play. I thought 253 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: he was fantastic in the late third quarter run really 254 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: setting things up on offense. He was the guy that 255 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: kind of set up those couple Julian strawtherbuckets got a 256 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: big transition finish. Jackson was texting during the game talking 257 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: about his unbelievable finishing ability. He kind of has this 258 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: remarkable talent to get into your body and then find 259 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: these like blow the rim finishing angles where he can 260 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: put it softly up off the glass from way off 261 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: to the side. He can finish on either side of 262 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: the rim in a way that like can even surprise 263 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: you on the broadcast where you're like, is he going 264 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: up on the strong side. Nope, He's going reverse, and 265 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: you're like surprised as it's happening. And his supreme talent 266 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: is he's just one of the great shot makers to 267 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: ever play this game. Like, if you really get down 268 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: to it and you think about the guys who again 269 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: that specific trait. I'm not talking about super high level 270 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: point guard play, although I thought Jamal passed the ball 271 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: really well tonight. I'm not talking about elite two way 272 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: play in the form of defense at the guard position. 273 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about, you know, some sort of indomitable 274 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: downhill attack. But if you strictly just taking synthesizing a 275 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: player's game down to the ability to hit tough shots, 276 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: the ability to hit jumpers off the move and off 277 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: the dribble, from every single possible footwork in dribble combination, 278 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: that there's There aren't many players that I've watched that 279 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: are more gifted with that specific trait. And every one 280 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: of those buckets he got tonight they needed. I was 281 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 2: just I just I just I just think Jamal is 282 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: a legend. It's hard to explain because I hated his 283 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: guts when I was rooting against him as a Lakers fan, obviously, 284 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: But like when I think about the players in the 285 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: game that have the true competitive spirit, I always refer 286 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: to this as like hatred of losing, not a love 287 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: of basketball. Obviously, you need both in order to have 288 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: success at the highest levels, but there is like a 289 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: there is like a competitive spirit you can see from 290 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: a basketball player that manifests from a singular emotion, which 291 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 2: is like a hatred and a fear of losing. I 292 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: actually think that matters more than any other trait when 293 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: it comes to basketball, because it manifests in a willingness 294 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: to do whatever it takes. And even when I think 295 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: back to Jamal in his previous playoff highs, like in 296 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, in twenty twenty two, he has or 297 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: should say in twenty twenty three, he has like a 298 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: defensive playmaking side to his game too, where he'll get 299 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: into a spot in a big spot and put his 300 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: body on the line for a charge, or make a 301 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: help side rotation where he'll get a big block. Or 302 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: there's a big one he had in the Lakers series 303 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: three years ago where he stripped Lebron on a key 304 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: clutch possession on a help side off of the week 305 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: side corner. He'll fight for a contested rebound. There was 306 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: one late tonight. It was in that crazy run when 307 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: the Thunder were just ball pressuring like crazy and they 308 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: forced all those turnovers in a row, and somebody missed 309 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: the off the right wing. I can't remember who it was. 310 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: I think it was J dub but a Thunder player 311 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: missed at three and like Alex Crusoe comes flying in 312 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: and Hartenstein's flying in, and like the Thunder is still 313 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: playing with that like chaotic energy and who came up 314 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: with the ball in the mix of all those players 315 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: with Jamal Murray. Jo Kisch was in there battling and 316 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: somehow the ball just ended up in Jamal Murray's hands. Because, 317 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: like we can be critical of Jamal in other ways, 318 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: he takes the regular season less serious than a lot 319 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: of his peers do in the league, and comes into 320 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: camp out of shape and could probably stand to take 321 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: care of his body a little bit better. But when 322 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: it comes to the principal concept of winning basketball games 323 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, He's just one of the better guards 324 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: that I've seen in this era because of his ability 325 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: to shot make and because of his willingness to do 326 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: the things that you need to do to win basketball games. 327 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: And I thought tonight, you know, should they win this series, 328 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: if they go on the road and they win Game seven, 329 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: I will think back to this Jamal Murray Game six 330 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: against the Thunder very fondly as one of the better 331 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: games in his career. 332 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: So shout out to Jamal. Third quarter run. 333 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: This is really when the game started to flip in 334 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: Denver's favor. E lead defense in this stretch here, we 335 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: were giving up these like kind of easy baskets right 336 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: along the baseline off of drop offs, and there were 337 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: just a few sequences like Aaron Gordon threw a better 338 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: contest at Alex Caruso reverse layup where he forced to miss, 339 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray got in the way on one, forced to 340 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: miss Peyton Watson that huge block that he had in transition. 341 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Just there were a few efforts. 342 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: Around the rim during that stretch that turned what would 343 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: have been easy points into opportunities for Denver going the 344 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: other way. And then that was the stretch when Jamal 345 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: Murray really attacked offensively as a shot maker and as 346 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: a playmaker. That was when Julian Strather had all those 347 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: buckets in the late third quarter stretch. And then there 348 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: was a huge sequence at the tail end of that. 349 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: There was a huge sequence in that run if you 350 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: guys remember where they kind of started to lose control 351 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: and Denver turns it over, okase he's run in the 352 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: length of the floor. Drawther gets the huge block at 353 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: the rim, and then they go down the other end 354 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: and Russell Westbrook, who had had a turnover in this 355 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: sequence and it had had a really rough game, gave 356 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: an extra effort and got an offensive rebound put back 357 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: that bumped it. Instead of going down to five, it 358 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: pushed it back up to nine and just kind of 359 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: changed the psychology the game. And I just thought that 360 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: was a very important run. And then Nikola Jokics wasn't 361 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: super aggressive as a scorer in this game, but there 362 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: there was a stretch where when he first came in 363 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: in the mid fourth quarter, I think they were up 364 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: by eight or nine at this point, and as we know, 365 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: that's that same kind of margin that Oklahoma City was 366 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: able to overcome in the previous two games, right, and 367 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: Nikole Jokicic came in and I was literally thinking, like, 368 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: they need him. 369 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: To score the basketball. 370 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: Tim Legler was doing a great job calling that out 371 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: on the broadcast as well. And he came in and 372 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: he hit a contested three and a contested floater in 373 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: the middle of the lane, two quick buckets that the 374 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: lead all the way out to like thirteen or fourteen points, 375 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: and that was when everyone kind of could at least 376 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: feel less pressure in terms of how difficult it was 377 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: going to be to close out the game. And then 378 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: I Couets ended up getting a much needed win tonight 379 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: to extend the series. 380 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high octane world 381 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: of sports, Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse range 382 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: of programming that goes beyond the game. From action pack 383 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: live events to gripping behind the scenes documentaries to hard 384 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: hitting investigative pieces and in depth profiles of athletes, coaches, teams. 385 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: Vice Sports captures the raw energy, drama, and passion that 386 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: makes sports truly unforgettable. 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You know, they lost 395 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: control of it through a couple of key stretches, but 396 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: overall they played well when when Shaye was on the floor, 397 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: and I thought that this was the game where he 398 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: was most efficient and surgical offensively. Again, thirty two points 399 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: on just sixteen shots. Jay Doug again, this was something 400 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: that I called out before the postseason, and it's just 401 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: the reality of young basketball players. Like Jadeb's a really 402 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: good player and I'm a big believer in him. I 403 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: think he has the potential to be like a Jalen 404 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: Brown mixed with a little bit of Jimmy Butler within 405 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: the next you know, five to ten years of his career. 406 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: But like he's young and doesn't have a ton of 407 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: experience on the stage, and he's really struggled to be 408 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: consistently impactful in this setting. Again, three for sixteen in 409 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: a long line of some brutal shooting performances in this series. 410 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: They're going to need him to be better in Game seven. 411 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 2: And then I just wanted to shout out case on Wallace. 412 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: I don't know what he's going to be in the 413 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: long run. I feel like there's some real potential there 414 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: because of his athleticism, just his ability to get up 415 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: in traffic, both in transition and underneath the basket, almost 416 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: finishing like a big man as a guard around the rim, 417 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: his ball pressure bothered. He bothers Jamal Murray more than 418 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 2: Lou Door does. He's doing some real damage to him 419 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: attacking the basketball Keyson's a great player, and I'm just 420 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: really excited to see what he becomes in the long run. Now, 421 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: as far as Game seven goes, this is gonna be 422 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: a super interesting game. 423 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: On the road. 424 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: Right for Denver, the Oklahoma City Thunder will be substantially favored. 425 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: Right they are the young team though, And I was 426 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: really I was looking back at just the previous examples 427 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: in recent NBA history, in like the last decade or so, 428 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: if teams have won Game seven on the road, and 429 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: every single time there's a consistent theme, it's the star, 430 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: the superstar, apex superstar. Every time it's been a top 431 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: tier guy. The only example you'll find kind of one 432 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: that's not really is the Trey Young Game seven against 433 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: Philly back in twenty twenty one, if you remember correctly. 434 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: But even then, I have to go back and watch 435 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: that game to remember exactly what happened. But I remember 436 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: Trey making a bunch of big plays late in that game, 437 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: like right in the final minutes as they pulled away 438 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: from Philly. But if you look at the other examples 439 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: of recent games where a team won a road Game seven, 440 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: you go back to like twenty eighteen, and it's Lebron 441 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: James and Boston won game one at home, they won 442 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: Game two at home, they won Game five at home, 443 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: and then suddenly in game seven when all of the 444 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: pressure was on all of their young players. Now, mind you, 445 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: they were younger players than Oklahoma City even in terms 446 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: of Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum at that point in time, 447 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: but Lebron just kind of alpha dogged them and was like, 448 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: far and away the best player in the game, far 449 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: and away the most comfortable player in the game, made 450 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: all the big plays late, and they ended up winning. 451 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: Fast forward to twenty twenty three, Steph Curry Game seven 452 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 2: on the road in Sacramento. Steph drops a piece on 453 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: those dudes, and they just have no idea what to do. 454 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: They just immediately crumble in their confidence and drop a 455 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: Game seven at home. Go to twenty twenty two, Luka 456 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Doncic on the road in Phoenix, just right out the 457 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: gates in the first quarter. Just alpha dogs those dudes. 458 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: They all get super nervous and they end up falling apart. 459 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: And specifically with the Celtics in twenty eighteen, but especially 460 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: the Suns in twenty twenty two, those were highly ranked 461 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: teams in the regular season, they were teams that won 462 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: a ton of games. They were teams that were viewed 463 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 2: as favorites in the series like this this was, you know, 464 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: this series will follow a somewhat similar trend, except for 465 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: Shay is also an APEX star in my opinion, and 466 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: this is a more talented, better Oklahoma City Thunder team. 467 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: But that dynamic is the dynamic that the Thunder have 468 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: to avoid. If Yoki rolls up into Oklahoma City in 469 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: Game seven and right away just looks like by far 470 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: the most confident and comfortable player on the floor, and 471 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: he just strangles the pace and the flow, and a 472 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: bunch of these young Oklahoma City Thunder players get nervous. 473 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: That's where it could get dangerous. And as Denver just 474 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: showed in Game five, they can go into Oklahoma City 475 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: and control a game for a large portion. They again, 476 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: they blew that one in the late fourth quarter, but 477 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: they were right there with the chance to win that 478 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: with that game, to win that game, So games Haven, 479 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: all eyes are on Yo Kitchen Sha. You know, I 480 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: expect a lot of inconsistency from the role players in 481 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: that game, but like, you know, like as as likely 482 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: as Jamal and Jada bar to go off. They're just 483 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: as likely to have nightmare games. It's gonna be Yo 484 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: Kitchen Shae one of those two dominates that matchup. You're 485 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 2: gonna see that team win that game. And I can't wait. 486 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: After what's been a pretty boring tail end the second round, 487 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: I feel fortunate that we're gonna get an epic Game 488 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 2: seven on Is it on Saturday or Sunday? I think 489 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: it's on Sunday actually, so we get a couple day off. Wow, 490 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: that's a big deal. That's a huge deal. So Denver 491 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: doesn't play till Sunday. That's a big deal that Denver 492 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: is gonna get a little bit of time off before 493 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: they have to roll up into that arena. That's advantage 494 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: to Denver for sure. 495 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: As well. 496 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: If I had to pick right now, I picked Oklahoma 497 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: City in seven before the series. I still feel like 498 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: they probably deserve to be about a sixty to forty 499 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 2: favorite in Game seven, So I'm gonna stick with OKAC 500 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: and seven at this point. But I would not be 501 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: even the slightest bit surprised if Denver rolled up in 502 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: there and got the job done. And either way, Minnesota 503 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: Denver and Minnesota Minnesota OKC are both excellent Western Conference 504 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: Finals matchups, So US as basketball fans, we will be 505 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: fine either way. But I can't wait to break that 506 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: game down when the time comes. All right, let's bring 507 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: Jackson on and let's take a solid ten fifteen minutes 508 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: of questions. 509 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. 510 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 4: First question, aside from the superstars who are obviously the 511 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: driving force for each team, what is an x FI 512 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: for each team going into Game seven? It could be 513 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: a player, a concept, whatever. 514 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: So the obvious one is shooting, right, there's a certain 515 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: amount of like whether or not we get a confident 516 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: role player night for either team. You know, that could 517 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: be Dort, that could be Michael Porter Junior, that could 518 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: be Christian Brown, that could be you know, case On 519 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: Wallace and Alex Caruso. Like, there's definitely a role player 520 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: swing either way. I'm gonna go with Jamal versus Jadubb 521 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: as just shot makers. One of the things that I 522 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: think we've seen a pretty good example of is like 523 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: Jamal has a couple of crafty finishes in this series, 524 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: especially in transition, but both teams are doing a good 525 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: job of keeping specifically Ja dub and Jamal from getting 526 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: all the way to the rim. J Dub's having to 527 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: settle for a lot of like tough stuff in the 528 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: short to mid range, and so is Jamal, And so 529 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: I think there's a certain amount of like shot making 530 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: comfortability between those two guys that I think would be 531 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: a big swing in the in this game seven. I 532 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: also think the whistle could play a role. Is Oklahoma 533 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: City allowed to just beat the shit out of Jokic 534 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: or are they gonna get a little more ticky tech 535 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: Shay's whistled. That could be a big factor. Oklahoma City 536 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: in general, just processing against the zone and knocking down shots. 537 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: I think that's a big one too. There are a 538 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: lot of examples, but you know how it is, Jackson, 539 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: Like this point in the series, everyone knows what everyone's doing, 540 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: and it's really it's really just about guys, you know, 541 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: executing the game plan and knocking down shots. 542 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: For sure, Let's steal a game from Bill Simmons. Guess 543 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 4: the line for game set. 544 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess, Okay, see minus. 545 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Eight and a half seven? Almost I was thinking that. 546 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm gonna be more aggressive. 547 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 4: I was gonna say more like five or six I'm 548 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: kind of surprised. 549 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm kind of well after okay, see was a minus 550 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: four and a half favorite on the road tonight. I 551 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: was like, I was like, man, like, they gotta be 552 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: up there that like seven or eight range. But yeah, 553 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: I think that's the right line because the dynamic at 554 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: play is it's either going to be a close game 555 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 2: or okay, see you we'll pull away and kind of 556 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: blow them out, you know, ten to fifteen, because you know, 557 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: veteran team, once they lose sight of their opportunity to win, 558 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: they'll probably you know, let go of the rope a 559 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 2: little bit. I do think it's going to be very 560 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: low scoring, though that would be a game that I 561 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: would take the under for sure. 562 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: This is a question about sort of something that you mentioned, 563 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: which is the Thunder finding success with some of those 564 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: middle drives and the baseline cutter specifically against the zone. 565 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: Can you sort of break down why that works and 566 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 4: also do you think that that st of sort of 567 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 4: success will result in less zone from Denver in game seven? 568 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: There's a way to run the zone better than they've 569 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: been running it in terms of just I mean to 570 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: put it very simply, just guys containing the ball better. 571 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: But think of it like this. So if you guys 572 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: think about this zone in the in the context of 573 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: each guy kind of has a job. You have your 574 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: top guys, and you have your guys that are in 575 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: the corners right, and then you have yokich in the 576 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: middle of the floor, and Yo Kitch's responsibility the middleman 577 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 2: responsibility for basically every two three zone. I've seen some 578 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: variations like Houston was not using Steven Adams to cover 579 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 2: the middle. They use a top guy to cover the middle. 580 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: You'll see a couple of weird variations around the league. 581 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: But Yo Kic's responsibility basically is the basket. 582 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: And up to the elbows. 583 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: You know, he'll if a guy catches in the middle 584 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: of the floor. In many cases, he's the guy who 585 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: will come up and then the two baseline guys will 586 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: pinch down. But what was happening is all of those 587 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: four guys on the outside were doing a poor job 588 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: of one containing the ball and two filling in for 589 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: Yo Kic when he would step up. So imagine a 590 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: scenario where A and guys, when we go to playback later, 591 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: we I'll pull up some video clips of this so 592 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: you guys can see some specific examples of that. But 593 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: so if you give up dribble penetration in the middle, 594 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: Yokic has no choice but to step up, because if 595 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: he doesn't step up, he's on his heels for an 596 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: athlete who's going to elevate right at the front of 597 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: the rim. So he needs to step up to stop 598 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: the driver before he can get into basically the zone 599 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: where he can take off and make a play. And 600 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: then at that point, the two bottom guys have to 601 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: pinch in to rotate to the basket, and they were 602 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: missing that rotation constantly, and so when that guy would 603 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: just cut along the baseline, when Yokich would step up, 604 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: it'd be just an easy drop off pass and there'd 605 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: be an easy, you know, dunk or a layup right 606 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: underneath the basket. But theoretically, if you're in the zone, 607 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: that dribble penetration is something you should be able to contain. 608 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: The whole point of the zone is to force them 609 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: to swing the ball around the perimeter and take threes. So, 610 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: like your job, like a three to two zone or 611 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: you know these other variations, a three to two in particular, 612 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: you're trying to take away threes and there's opportunities around 613 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: the basket, but in a two three zone, the entire 614 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: premise of the zone is these guys are young and 615 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: they don't know how to make shots under pressure and 616 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: kind of a funky zone situation. So your job there 617 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: is essentially to contain the ball and force them to 618 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: take threes off of swing passes instead of paint touches. 619 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: And they just didn't do a good job. But again 620 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: we'll get into more examples of that when we get 621 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: over to playback later so you guys can see some video. 622 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 4: Next question, with MPJ hurt and missing most of his shots, 623 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: do you think it's better for Russ, Peyton, Watson or 624 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: even Strawther to eat up those minutes and sort of 625 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: to focus the question a little bit. That's obviously depending 626 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: on the flow of the game who's playing better. But 627 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: in a vacuum, if you had to pick someone else 628 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: to be the fifth closer along with their four main guys, 629 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: who would you go with? 630 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: First of all, just so that you guys know, because 631 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: I pulled up the numbers, Oklahoma City twenty three possessions 632 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: of zone offense a one hundred and nine offensive rating 633 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: that's very good. Sixty three possessions of half court manned 634 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Man a seventy eight offensive rating, So obviously I don't 635 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: think we'll see zero zone in game seven. But I 636 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if Denver ended up running more Man 637 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: just because of the fact that Oklahoma City had so 638 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: much success against it. Now to the question, we had 639 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: a similar kind of like topic during the meat and 640 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: potatoes of the start of this show. 641 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: But uh, I think you got it. This is this 642 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: is literally the. 643 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: Job for Addalman in game seven. You gotta have a 644 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: you gotta be willing to make a change, but willing 645 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 2: to throw a quick hook. This is a zero margin 646 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: for air game. You cannot afford to lose this particular game. 647 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: So with that being the case, you give Strawther a chance. Well, 648 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 2: he started with Michael Porter Junior, right, and if MPJ 649 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: has it going and he's getting rebounds, he's in the 650 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: right spots defensively, and he's you know, four for his 651 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,239 Speaker 2: first seven from the field. You push his minutes all 652 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: the way up. Because he's been in a lot of 653 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: big games in his career. He's not going to be 654 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: as uncomfortable as a Julian Strawther or something along those lines. 655 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: But if Mike, if Michael Porter Junior starts, you know, 656 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: one for five and has a couple of sloppy turnovers 657 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: and it just looks like he's not in it, and 658 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: Russ is out of it. But Julian Strawther is at 659 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: the least in the right spots and stepping confidently into shots. 660 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: You give him a shot and you ride him out 661 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: in that sort of situation. But these are these are 662 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: the kinds of games, like you've got to be willing 663 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: to try something, but you've got to have a quick 664 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 2: hook for anybody who's out of it. Like if Russ 665 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 2: comes in in a late first quarter shift and starts 666 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: shit in the bed, you get him the hell out 667 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: of there, and you get him out of there quick, because, 668 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: like I mean, this game flipped in that first quarter 669 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: from being like a ten point Denver lead to suddenly 670 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: it was a neck and neck again again because Russ 671 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: just lost control of his decision making for like a 672 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: ninety second stretch in the late first quarter, and that 673 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: could be the difference between going home and advancing to 674 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: the next round. So to answer the question, I don't 675 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: think it's about picking a guy right now. All of 676 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: those guys are inconsistent. Julian Strothers a kid relative to 677 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: NBA talent, like he had a great game tonight, but 678 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: he could just as easily go oh for six with 679 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: a bunch of mistakes in game seven. Russell Westbrook, same 680 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: sort of range of outcomes. Michael Porter, same sort of 681 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: range of outcomes. I think Peyton Watson's a much higher 682 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: floor but a lower ceiling option in the sense that 683 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: he's not going to do a ton for you offensively, 684 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: but there's a higher floor there, And I think I'll 685 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: give you a more concrete answer like this, if the 686 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: shit hits the fan and everyone's playing poorly, I'd close 687 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: with Watson. 688 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: What do you think, Jackson? 689 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: Would you close with Watson if everyone else is struggling? 690 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: I was going to say the same thing. I would 691 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: close with Watson sort of. That's for my initial reaction, 692 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 4: but especially if if no one really has it going, 693 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 4: just because his defensive ability is he's kind of a 694 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: game changing defensive player. That bad transition block on Jalen 695 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: Williams was insane when Okase he was trying to make 696 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: sort of regain control of it for a second there 697 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: in insane play, and he's also less. You know, he's 698 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: less likely to make a big shot, but he's less 699 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: likely to make a stupid mistake on that And like Russ, 700 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 4: my is sort of you know, Russ is very talented, 701 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 4: but he's prone to mistakes. Michael Porter junr Is prone 702 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: to some bad shots selection at time times, and Julian Strawther, 703 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: even compared. 704 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: To Pitton, Watson is a child. 705 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: So I think for the Peyton Watson's floor is definitely 706 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 4: and his defensive capabilities is where I would lean. 707 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, especially especially in a Game. 708 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 4: Seven that's likely to be very physical, likely to be 709 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 4: very low scoring, where you probably don't even want Michael 710 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 4: Porter Junior taking a shot with a minute left anyways. 711 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 4: I probably I don't even care if it's bad, if 712 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 4: it's a hard shot, I want Jokich, your Murray taking 713 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: the shot anyways. So considering that's the case, it's like, 714 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 4: go with the defense. 715 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought this up too, because I think 716 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: this is important for a mentality thing for Jokich, Like 717 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: like it bothered me in Game five that he took 718 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: that crazy fade away over Chet at the top of 719 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: the key, and I thought he it was a decent 720 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: look for Michael Porter Junior at the top of the key, 721 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: but I he had a size advantage in the middle 722 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: of the floor. 723 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: He could have. 724 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: Gone to another turnaround or a hook in the middle 725 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: of the floor, and he just sprayed it out instead. 726 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to be too critical because over 727 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: the years, I'd like, I've rooted for a player in 728 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: Lebron James who did the exact same thing, trusting Donielle Marshall, 729 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: trusting Kyle. 730 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: Korver, whoever it was. 731 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: But like, there is a certain amount of like when 732 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: you're dealing with these star archetypes, the Jokic Lebron types 733 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: there that make the right play guys, and there will 734 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: be moments at the end of games where you're like, you. 735 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: Got to shoot the ball. 736 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: But then with the Kobe, Kevin Durant and Michael Jordan types, 737 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: there will be times where it's like, bro, you got 738 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: three dudes on you. 739 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: You got to trust your teammates. 740 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: And that's kind of just like the give and take 741 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: of those different archetypes of players. 742 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's sort of the inherent challenge. Yeah, exactly, a 743 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: couple more questions that won't go over to playback. If 744 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 4: oka See loses in Game seven, if okay See now, 745 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 4: that would be a second second round exit. And you know, 746 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 4: and back to my second exit in back to back 747 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: years with their only series wins becoming against an injured 748 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 4: Pelicans team and then. 749 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: The Grizzlies this year. 750 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 4: Does that say anything greater about the Thunder and their 751 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 4: flaws or is it just they ranted a two tough 752 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: matchups and back to back seasons. 753 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: I think it's just the simple fact that every single 754 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: player in the rotation other than Alex Alex Crusoe is 755 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 2: twenty six or younger. Like, there is a real youth 756 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: and inexperience. It's problem with Oklahoma City, and frankly, we've 757 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 2: never seen a team this young have championship level success 758 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: in the NBA. It has literally never happened. Like that's 759 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: my thing. Like the way that Oklahoma City was discussed 760 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: during the regular season, I viewed them as a legitimate 761 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: championship threat ranked him second. But NBA history tells us 762 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 2: that teams like this don't win now. They win like 763 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: two or three years from now when they have lost 764 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: a bunch of times, and as a result of that 765 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: have made these like seemingly minuscule improvements, but in a 766 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 2: way that manifests specifically in the playoff setting. They basically 767 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: get better at getting their regular season success to translate 768 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: to the postseason because they've just been there so many times. 769 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: They're just so comfortable. And I just can't tell you 770 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: how many times in my life I've seen playoff series 771 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: where the older, more experienced team just looks more comfortable 772 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: than the younger, inexperienced team. It is not a harder 773 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 2: fast rule. There are teams that buck that trend. But 774 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 2: the whole thing is like, if Oklahoma City wins Game 775 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: seven and then they beat Minnesota and then they beat 776 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: whoever comes out of the East, they are breaking a trend. 777 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: They are breaking a historical NBA trend, which is that 778 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 2: super young teams don't win at this level. And Frankly Jackson, 779 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: like I the reason the series is going seven is 780 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: the youth and inexperience of Oklahoma City. They are a 781 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: better basketball team than Denver. They have controlled large portions 782 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: of this series. But yo, like, I'm watching these dudes, 783 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: and I'm watching Jamal, and I'm watching Aaron Gordon, and 784 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm watching Jokic. These guys have been in wars over years, 785 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: they have seen it all, and so there's just a 786 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: level of comfortability that they have in these settings. And 787 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 2: as far as the big picture goes for Oklahoma City, 788 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: let's say they lose, there's a certain conversation to have 789 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: about like, Okay, well you have all this draft compensation, 790 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do just keep drafting players and 791 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: then letting them walk, Like you gotta do something with 792 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: these picks. And you know, maybe that ends up being 793 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: them trading for a big rangy wing, which is the 794 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: kind of player they don't really have. They just don't 795 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: have that like six', eight you, Know jada McDaniel's type of. 796 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: Player maybe it is a super aggressive star trade sort of. 797 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: Thing but ultimately what's going to put them over the 798 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 2: top is their. Experience it's going to Be shay having 799 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: more games like tonight in fewer games like he's had 800 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: the rest of this playoff. Run it's gonna Be chet 801 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 2: going from a guy that like can completely disappear for 802 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 2: large portions of the game to a guy that leverages 803 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: his gifts for the entirety of the forty two to 804 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: forty three minutes that he's on the. Floor that's what's 805 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 2: going to put these guys over the. TOP i remember 806 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: watching one of my favorite examples of this was the 807 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: two thousand and TWELVE Nba finals between The thunder and The, 808 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: heat and there was a rebound on a on a 809 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: missed free, throw A heat free throw In game, five 810 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 2: That Shane battier came away. With and this was if 811 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: you remember That thunder, team they were so athletic And, 812 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: shane the old slow, guy beat everyone to the. Ball 813 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: and it's because like he just has been in so 814 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 2: many games that he understands that that singular moment was 815 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 2: just as important as every other possession in the, game 816 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: and that if you engage and fight for every, inch 817 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 2: you might gain three or four inches over the course 818 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: of that. Game that could be the difference between winning and, 819 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: losing which could be the difference in the. Series and 820 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: you go back to that, series every fucking game was 821 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 2: right down to the final, possessions to like The katie 822 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: neerfoul In game, two to Like game three And game 823 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: four both came down to clutch. SITUATIONS i even think 824 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 2: back To lebron And Pulp heerce going for a loose 825 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: ball in the two thousand and Seven game seven between 826 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: The cavs and The, celtics Where lebron had forty five 827 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: or whatever And Paul pierce had forty two or. Whatever 828 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 2: Paul pierce's old fat ass Beat lebron to the ball 829 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 2: because he's just an old dude who just understands that 830 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: every inch of the game is worth fighting. For and 831 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 2: there are just so many missed opportunities with the, thunder 832 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 2: so many bad shots early in the, clock so many silly, 833 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: mistakes just simply because they haven't understood through time and, 834 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 2: experience how valuable every possession is in a basketball. 835 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,479 Speaker 4: Game, YEAH i last last year when The celtics wondered 836 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 4: ALL i looked this up BECAUSE i was curious as 837 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 4: A celtics. Fan how many teams in this century have 838 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 4: won with their best player being twenty six or. Younger not. 839 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 4: Many it's Like steph in that their first title, Year Dwayne, 840 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 4: wade and then that's pretty much it Because kobe was 841 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 4: not the best player on those Early lakers, teams right 842 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 4: there's and that's just for the best, player never mind 843 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 4: the rest of the. Roster both of those teams that 844 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 4: had their best player twenty six years old had legitimate 845 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 4: had multiple contributing, Vets Drew, Holliday Al, Horfrid Christaps perzingis 846 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 4: in his last, Round Andrew, Bogan Andre, udala. 847 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: And Sean, Livings Andrew Bart But, john let me. 848 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 4: Say, yeah, right like it's it takes even for your 849 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,439 Speaker 4: if your never mind the whole contract of your, team 850 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 4: if your best player is, young you're probably not gonna. 851 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 4: Win and if your best player is, young you're gonna 852 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 4: need more than one rotation impactful that most of the. 853 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: Time most of the, TIME i totally. 854 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 4: Agree let's do one more question and then we'll go 855 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 4: over to, play, uh sort of a more general. Question 856 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: what makes a player fun to watch for? 857 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: You you, know this is. 858 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: FASCINATING i saw some people debating this on On, twitter 859 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: Between Jason tatum And Anthony. Edwards in this concept of, 860 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 2: aura AND i do think that that plays a big 861 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 2: role with casual. FANS i think THERE i think there's an, 862 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: aura like a confidence of, bravado a backing up of 863 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: that confidence in. 864 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: Bravado with your. 865 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: PLAY i think that there are certain players that fans 866 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: see act a certain way and they kind of see through. 867 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: It you'll see that sometimes, too in a negative. WAY 868 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: i think that basketball players enjoy watching talented basketball players 869 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: LIKE i don't think it's a coincidence that everyone every 870 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 2: TIME i talk to a basketball, player like a person 871 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 2: who's played extensively in their, life they Love steph and 872 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: they Love. Lebron but then you talk to a casual 873 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 2: fan and they love one guy hate the next, guy 874 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 2: because there's all about, aura it's all about who they're rooting, 875 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: For it's all about like these different. THINGS i think 876 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: that it kind of just depends on the kind of 877 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: person you. Are for, ME i gravitate to like specific basketball, 878 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: traits like even with the guys THAT i don't necessarily, 879 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: like like Joe El, Embiid i'm impressed by his. Footwork James, 880 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 2: Harden i've literally stolen his footwork on step. BACKTORIES i 881 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 2: use him all the. Time a guy like With embiid specifically, 882 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 2: Too he's got like really strong footwork on like his pivot, 883 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: moves on his turnarounds over both. Shoulders there's like a 884 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 2: there's a certain element of like imitation is the sincerest 885 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 2: form of flattery that you'll see with basketball players. 886 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: Too Like Shay shae is a player that. 887 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: The moves that he's been working on That i've that 888 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: he's been using a lot in the last couple of 889 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 2: years That i've been working on a ton is that 890 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: hesitation dribble where you kind of turn sideways and then 891 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: you just kind of robe with a jab step and 892 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: you just cover ground going back towards your left for 893 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 2: a step back. Three that's like a a like a 894 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 2: really fascinating basketball move THAT i think is really useful 895 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: for a dribble drive guard just because he sells the 896 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: left handed drive with that move and he'll drive out 897 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: of that move a lot of, times but then he'll 898 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 2: just pull back out of it with that step. Back 899 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 2: so for basketball, PLAYERS i think they're attracted to like 900 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: specific basketball skills and. TRAITS i think for casual fans 901 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: it's a lot of aura that kind of, stuff and 902 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: THEN i DO i think there's something to be said 903 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 2: about just like must SEE tv kinds of. Stuff, so for, 904 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 2: instance like you want to know Why steph And lebron 905 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: have crazy amounts of, fans because there's nothing like a step. 906 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 2: Heater when you watch A steph, heater it is one 907 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: of the most, incredible incredible bits of television you'll ever. 908 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 2: See Older lebron has been a tougher, watch but Younger 909 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 2: lebron was like the most incredible freight train athlete you've ever. 910 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 2: Seen it was like If zion took care of his 911 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 2: body like it. Was it was literally, insane and so 912 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 2: there's a certain like MUSTY tv element to, it uh 913 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 2: to it as. 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