WEBVTT - 2021 Week 8 Preview 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:07.280 Be Around the NFL podcast is still pissing all of 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:12.360 Angelo's from the Chris Westling Podcast studio. It's the Around 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:18.000 the NFL podcast. I'm Dan hands this, Greg Rostal, Mark Sessler. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.080 You know, we have a new intro because the opportunity 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.520 to name drop the legend Chris Westling at the top 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.560 of every show is It's an honor quite frankly, and 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.120 I love doing it. But it's the Chris Westling podcast studio. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:39.479 Around the NFL Podcast duplicative. Yeah, that's the writer in 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.480 you and the editor, which you know, Dan's an underrated 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:47.520 writer long time you know, journo little backhanded company right there. Okay, 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.360 go ahead, I'm just saying no, I mean, there are 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.159 people and I haven't I've encountered them that don't realize 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.639 that we right, So it's good to point that out. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.480 That's where it's where we came from. But yeah, it 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.120 it bothers you as a writer whenever you have the 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.959 same word like twice in the two See. I don't 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.160 think it bothers every writer, um uh that are that's 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.039 covering sports. But it should it should. I'm glad you 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.640 mentioned Chris off the top here too, because that reminds 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:18.400 me to reminder listeners to check out Lakisha's feature that 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.680 that we talked a lot about. We had Keisha on 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:22.840 our around the NFL broadcast. I know a lot of 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.039 our listeners saw that because she sent it out in 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.199 Social but some of you haven't. We haven't talked about 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.720 in the podcast. And it was amazing what she did. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.280 And they are going to be airing a shorter version 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.280 of it on Game Day Morning this weekend, so that's cool. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.480 And but you can see the full version at Keisha's 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.800 Social Hands literally the director's cut, and like I mean, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.640 it's amazing. They played it also in the huge theater 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.920 here at our workplace where we watch um have watched 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.240 a couple of terrible Sunday night football games for the 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.080 most part, you know, some good, not some not so good. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.760 The Lakisha did such amazing work and all the people 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.320 behind the scenes that helped bring that to life, it 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.720 was so well done. And Greg you spoke for the 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:06.200 pod on in the segment, which was excellent, and Nick 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.120 Westling spoke on behalf of the Westling Brothers and that 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.359 was wonderful. And we heard from the doctors that uh 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:16.960 and the surgeons that worked with West during his battle 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:21.520 against cancer. So yes, check out if you're watching NFL Network, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.720 check out the short version. Go, but finally seek out 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.680 the long one, because that that is the way to go. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.600 It was a little it was a little toward of Greg. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.720 I know he's gonna say something nice, but to demand 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.360 high fees to appear in the video that that felt 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.480 and no one else did. Just it was special to 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.960 have Keisha here with us, and I hope we do 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.040 on on a podcast. Uh soon enough. But that's one 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.120 benefit of yeah, watching the long version, we got to 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.799 talk about it with her afterwards. On that version, Mark, 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.120 I would say that Greg's an underrated talking head, and 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.680 like a sensitive piece like that, I would say, as 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:57.560 he's been underrated. It is not a insult in any way. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.000 I just mean that that people don't think of the 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.520 Zeus that way. He's you know, he's a podcast guy, 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:08.000 he's a TV personality. Our writing has unfortunately, you know. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.480 I mean, you know, when Dan and I met, we 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.040 were turning to the mill where you're doing fourteen blogs today. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.520 I do remember Dan the writer quite distinctly. I mean, 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.600 he still exists. I think about you as the writer. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.880 I remember that you guys are both time at your 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.880 desks and I was just standing behind you with a 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:29.200 whip going like, yeah you were. One day, when Mark 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.960 and I do a spinoff show, it's just gonna be 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.280 about like the two years where Greg was our boss. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:39.400 It's like four or five Terrell prior. Now he said 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.800 something and we're not gonna pull any punches. It's going 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.080 to be the true, unvarned story that Greg twice has 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.360 done the whipping motion but not the sound of It's 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.880 like he affected he's expecting the drop to come in there, 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.320 right right, But it's like this is an audience. It's 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.880 like when drew up the double middle finger and thought 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.760 it would be blurred out. And sometimes things are just 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.640 for you guys here it's okay, right, and it's you know, 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.720 you're quickly on the receiving end of that from what 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:06.840 we know about your outside of work. Let's all right, well, okay, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.320 we'll get into that a little bit later. Uh. This 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.960 is week eight. Here we go, we're almost at the 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.360 midpoint of the season. Of course, this season is longer now. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.560 I think the branding of it and dare we disrespect 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.800 the branding of it? This is the biggest season ever. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.200 That's one way to put it purely in quantity. Although 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:26.640 I think it's been a good season so far. I'd 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.880 give it a solid B so far. What would you 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:37.760 give the season through seven weeks? B sounds about bordering 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.360 on B plus. Yeah, I don't know that the quarterbacks 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.479 are great. I always think you know, it's a lot 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.640 of young quarterbacks, a lot of points. I mean, your 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.240 personal fandom probably has to knock it down almost a 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.880 full letter grade. It's just total terror. London trip for 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.599 me knocked it up to an A personally for me, 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.080 like everything leading up to Sunday kickoff was a plus, 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.680 and then that then the the D minus game, uh, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.920 and then the Sunday game against the Patriots. Now we're 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.719 getting into f territory. But that's just me personally. So 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.279 maybe I see the rest of the season as an 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.200 A minus and it's got credit to the season that 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.800 it's a base. I'm legitimately all right, let's get into 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:17.880 the games of Week eight. You could check out the 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:22.400 Thursday night recap Packers Cardinals speaking a lot of talk 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.240 the biggest, the greatest Thursday night football game ever. Well, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.200 six and oh against seven and oh six and one 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.640 against seven and oh yeah, we'll see check out Greg's 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:34.200 recap with special guests Patrick. So he agreed if he 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.200 came around to I didn't follow up with him, but 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.520 he said yes. In the moment, it was it was 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.320 an awkward enough request that I was there for. It 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.240 was that I actually had through what he had to 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.039 do that day. Which day is that Thursday? Where you know, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.919 that's that's what If you find yourself in a pinch, Greg, 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.599 I will jump in and be your partner for recap. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:00.320 I felt I felt compelled based on revisit it, because yeah, 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.280 Clay Bonn is a friend, and at this point we 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.840 know enough that like asking a friend to do the podcast, 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.360 that doesn't necessarily mean you're doing them a favor, they're 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.440 doing you a favor. So I should revisit, whether it's 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.919 a little later revisit honest, that was more like a 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.480 follow up later in the day. Hey man, sorry to 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.160 put you on the spot there. If you have something 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.679 else going on, let me know. And and Dan already 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.720 said he would jump in, so it's fine. I thought 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.240 about that. You know, get credit for thinking about sending 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.120 that text, but I did forget. Let's start with the 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.760 primetime games to come later in the weekend. Let's start 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:37.719 with a gorgeous game on Halloween Night, Dallas Cowboys at 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.480 Minnesota Vikings. The Cowboys coming off their bye week at 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.960 five and one, feeling good, looking good, playing good um 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.520 and the Vikings are very hard to pin down three 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.159 and three also coming off thereby, we had a reef 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.440 asan on from the athletic last week, and we delved 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.520 into all the drama around the Vikings. Who you know 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.360 when we did that fact to exercise on Tuesday trying 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.000 to pick a new team. The Vikings are team I 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.120 always enjoy following. But again, I am not getting into 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.440 the pain rankings business. I'm not going from Jets to 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:14.080 Vikings fan that's a terrible situation. And people like Banetta 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.120 and everybody else say, oh, bad job with the Chiefs. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.040 Oh I might want to go to a franchise with 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.559 a superstar quarterback that's going to the Hall of Fame 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.800 and a great fan base and a winning culture. How absurd. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.120 It's a fair retort on your part. And you were 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.240 immersis you know, we came after you and it was 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.680 hard after me. So anyway, so there you go. The 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.400 Vikings a tough three and three to figure out? Mark, 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.200 where do you come down on this game? Because I 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.280 think hanging over everything, and I think how you watched 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:43.240 this game, especially in the early the first half. How's 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.320 Dak Prescott? How is that Calf? Because remember I had 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:50.440 to check the notes the backup quarterback behind Dak Prescott? 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:54.200 Does anybody know there's a string of the Cooper Rush? 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:58.320 It's Cooper Rush who was thrown for I don't know. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.160 It used to be your guy Mike White. Now on 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.200 the Jets. He's thrown for three yards in five years. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.720 So if Dad goes down, everything's finished. Your thoughts, Mark, Well, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.800 it sounds like you know, they said in quotes, he 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.840 did a lot of work on on Wednesday. He's doing 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.960 it again today and they he's looked good, So you 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.600 know there's real optimism that he can play, that he'll 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.640 be himself, which they need him to be. And if 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.200 he is um and this, you know, I get the 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.520 Packers Cardinals thing, but this is up there in that 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.240 echelon of games because I think for us watching the vikings, 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.320 like from I've been typically down on on the vikings, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.600 and my interest in them is climbing because of who 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.840 they are on offense that you've got Clint kubiak Um 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.480 allowing Kirk Cousins to throw the ball about forty times 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.560 a game. Justin Jefferson Adam thelan kJ Osborne who's in 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.240 the last you know month become one of the more 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.200 exciting young whiteouts. They're coming off there by both teams are. 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.120 Dalvin Cook is healthy. So it just is it unlike 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.040 the Green Bay Cardinals game. It's like everyone sounds like 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.640 they're good. Michael Gallutt might be back. The one thing 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.320 for me though, if you're looking at where this could 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:04.920 just turn into a bit of a train wreck for 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.320 Minnesota because to me, it vibes high scoring shootout that 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.839 like all Vikings games go down to the end. They 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.040 lost to the Browns, Bengals and Cardinals by a combined 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.400 eleven points. They lose close games, they win close games, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.640 um close fights, heartbreakers such as who they are, I 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.120 expect this to go that way. But Patrick Peterson, who's 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.839 played really well from Minnesota out of the lineup. You're 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.760 asking Camlon Danceller to come in, who has not been 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.920 a huge asset for them, but Shod Brilon has been struggling. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.920 So you just look at what Dallas has on offense, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.840 and you wonder can they get to a point where 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.480 they're suddenly up by, you know, seventeen points going into 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.880 the third quarter. It's like every week that that that 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.520 has so many mismatches to pick from and you're right 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.520 losing Peterson is is key. It was bizarre that they 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.160 bench Danceller, who was their best cornerback a year ago 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.640 as a rookie. Seems like some sort of Mike Zimmer 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:02.080 personal thing wasn't happy about his attitude. He's gonna need him. Uh. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.960 These defenses have been underrated, like they're both top ten 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.760 d v o A, but underrated defenses still give up 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.480 thirty points when they play a real deal offense. And 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.680 I trust the Cowboys offense and Mike McCarthy actually to 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.440 realize that we are an offensive team. Let's play to it. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.600 Like I know, Kirk Cousins is playing more free and 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.200 he's had to throw a lot, but a lot of 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.679 that's because they fall behind. When they get ahead, they 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.400 kind of get into their little shell. They start running 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.760 on first and second down, and they invite these close 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.680 games when they don't need it. So I trust the 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.960 Cowboys more to stay aggressive the whole game instead of 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.360 just when they have the leader when they're behind. I 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.640 think this is gonna be this is my prediction for 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.600 and it's not too bold, but game of the Week. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.600 I think it sets up really well that the Cowboys 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.480 are going to score points, but Minnesota has the ammunition 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.120 to fire back with Justin Jefferson Adam feeling a healthy 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.880 Dalvin Cook coming off to buy. Uh, and he's gonna 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.600 chew him up on the ground, I think. So we're 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.600 gonna have they I think a shootout here and uh. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.800 I kind of like the Vikings here and I know 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.760 I I just have a feeling that they are going 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.920 to really show up in this game. He had Davina 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:12.800 Cook had a hundred and forty three yards and thirty 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.760 one touches before Minnesota's buy. So you know the fact 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.120 that he gets a chance now to get to get 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.200 a blow. He's always banged up, he's had the ankle issues. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.080 He's gonna come out well. So I like the Vikings 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.400 in an upset. I'm with I want to be with you. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.959 But part of me that's really enjoyed this Kirk Cousins season, 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.080 and I think that the difference is he's throwing these 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.000 balls up to Osborne and Jefferson when he could take 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.760 the underneath stuff. He's getting aggressive? Is that? Couldn't you 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.200 see after all these games at you know, ten am 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.040 Pacific that he's playing well that like, here comes the 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.160 primetime game and Cousins has a Cousin like ending and 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.360 everyone's like, oh, there's Kirk Cousins again. And I don't 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.840 want to I know, but I'm now I'm like in 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.080 Cousins corner and I don't want Cousins. I'm in Cousins corner. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.960 You're in the plexiglass box. I'm taken up. You know. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.520 I don't want to take West of Spot, but I'm 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.520 to be a kissing cousin. I'm gonna. I'm gonna apply 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.880 for membership. I've just enjoyed that you guys can evolve, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.280 and I've enjoyed his his verb this year. And I 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.240 and I've been out on the kissing things. So I 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.040 said some verb. He's playing with a little verb. He's 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.240 entertaining me. That's what's important. I like the idea of 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.520 because that plexiglass cube that Kirk Cousins stays in not 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.680 to give everyone COVID because he won't get the jab. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.439 It's a little tight for two people, but Greg is 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.000 a smaller framed man. You put Greg in there and 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:27.880 he's gotta strip down and grease up. But then we 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.360 just slide them right into the cube with Kirk Cousins 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:35.240 and like, that's just I'm picturing that. I don't think 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.360 technically how it would work. So it's like, I don't think. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.200 I don't think removing your clothes would open up that 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.559 much extra space, Ricky, if you think if you move 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.959 the clothes but also lather Greg up in Greece, really, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.120 I'm like getting flashbacks to the sideline of the of 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.120 the London game where you were doing those sound effects 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.839 in reference to something I'm gonna throw up. Let's let's 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.640 move on, Let's keep moving, let's I like working. It's 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.200 technic clear how Greg would fix, you know, fit into 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.720 the structure again. We're getting his window into He's not 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.840 wearing what's there, He's not wearing a puffy jacket and jeans. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:12.840 Get into that cube, smooth him down. I can take 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:18.199 off the jackets and mask up. Dude. That's Giants a 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.000 Chiefs is the other game Monday Night Football. This is November, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.120 now November one before into it, I had a message 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:29.720 for you guys. Okay, hello heroes. We took a big 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.079 loss last week when the Titans demolished the Chiefs. How 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.880 did it happen? Who knows, but it did. It's very 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.800 upset we didn't let him lock up the Bengals over 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.560 the Ravens. Like, oh, that's a good call. Tip. He's 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.400 turning into a total elitist Bengals fan right now. In fact, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.319 he's sitting in his one bedroom apartment Higa Top Prace 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.720 Hill on the west side of Cincinnati, sipping on a 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:56.640 Sauvignon blanc from the board Due region of France. Anyway, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.120 we could pick this week since we didn't let him 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:03.360 last week. So he's locking up the cowboys over the bike. Okay, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.480 you may ask, why isn't Tim doing this recording? Well, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:11.959 Tim likes to sleep sometimes fifteen hours a day. How 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.160 does he sleep fifteen hours a day? Well, Tim doesn't 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:21.840 have a job. That's okay, we love it anyway, man, 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.560 I would say, like, I understand that was like unmasked 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.880 shots at Tim. But Tim has a lot figured out 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.880 from what I for what I'm apparently not. According to 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:37.880 Nick Wowep, Nick heard my message that Tim really brought 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.840 the heat and he came with it this week. He dever, 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.240 Tim is one of those guys who looks like he 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:49.040 sleeps fifteen hours and look batches up with the reality. Wow, Nick, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.760 I hope you have something to fire back on your 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.440 brother when you do get the opportunity and you wake up. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.200 By the way, those standings for the locks Us are 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.080 on a six game winning streak six and one, Mark 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.040 five and two, the Listeners, and the Westling brothers four 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.280 and three, Greg three and four, Ricky two and four 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.040 to and four. Seems pretty good for Erica. Actually, she's 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.280 on a bit of a dynasty. Yeah. The first week 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.680 I wasn't allowed to play, right, Greg was that was 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:19.720 not comfortable man splaining the rules of a picks game. Alright, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:24.360 Giants at Chiefs, uh, Monday night football. You know, usually 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.560 this game would not pack any intrigue because, al right, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.440 giants being led to slaughter at Arrowhead. But the Chiefs 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.600 are so messed up right now, They're just so terrible 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:39.400 that they've become a curiosity. And I thought there was 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:46.840 something very interesting that happened on third on Sunday's game. Um, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.640 and I'm sorry if I shared this already, but I 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.840 just want to say it again. When the Chiefs lined 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.720 up for the fifty seven yard field goal down to 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.680 three late in the third quarter, it really just jumped 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.720 out to me. I was like, whoa, where are we? 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.880 How do we get here? And that's just the offense 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.040 and that's not even it used to be. We were 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.440 worried about the turnovers, and we're still worried about the turners, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.600 but now we're worried about like, is all this stuff 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:11.320 about the two high safeties? Have they flummixed the Chiefs 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.560 and Andy Reid to the point where they no longer 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.760 can function as an elite offense. So the Giants, who 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.360 I'm kind of with you, gregor frisky and they're not 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.880 a good team, but you know on the right day 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.200 that you you catch them and they're kind of fun 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.720 to watch. They're still banged up, but it is going 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.760 to be an interesting again test of where the Chiefs are. Yeah, 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.840 if Cadarius Tony was available for this game, or Barkley 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.080 or Golladay for that matter, I would like even he 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:39.760 stepped on a guy's foot and now he's just gonna 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.040 be It sounds like they will practice Friday. Okay, that 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.240 then that that helps. They missed Thursday's practice and it 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.760 is a Monday night game. That would make me feel 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.640 that the Giants at least can cover this ten and 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.920 a half points. The Chiefs are four and fourteen against 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.840 the spread in their last eighteen so that's just like 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.320 a very clean way to say who's overrated, who's like 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.920 they're let their worse than people expect. And that started 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:07.080 early last season and in the field goal moment is 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.040 really well said, Dan, and it's kind of part of 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.240 this largest part of that second half, which was those 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.680 drives they were going on against Tennessee down twenty twenty 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.720 seven points, where like these ten play drives, eight teen 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.760 play drives, so even when they were behind, they could 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.800 not speed up and that was really surprising to me. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.960 I think Daniel Jones is playing well enough to keep 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.800 them competitive, uh in this game, and it's because the 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.760 Chiefs haven't really found that other option other than Travis 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.800 Kelsey and Tyreek Hill, like Josh Gordon. Remember when they 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.720 signed Josh Gordon. Josh Gordon has one catch. I'm not 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.560 shocked by that. I mean, I think that you're right 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.280 though they're on a search for someone else other than that, 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.480 because Tennessee, with a depleted secondary to some degree, took 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.879 care of business last week against both of those guys. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.359 Like there was they didn't show up in the first half, 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.600 and you go back to like the playoff game where 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.440 they were down to Houston, and to your point, Greg, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.199 you kind of would watch I remember watching that with 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.399 West and we're like, the Chiefs are totally gonna win 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.320 this because you completely were entranced by their explosiveness on offense. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.679 And it's not the case right now. They've trailed by 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.800 fourteen plus three times this year. It happened like four 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.640 times in the last like four seasons or something. And 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.280 I don't think that you can ask the defense to 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.080 heal itself. I think the offensive line got worked over 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.760 by the Titans last week, and the Giants, for all 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.240 their ups and downs and all their injured players, they 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.280 took care of business against a bad offensive line in 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.600 Carolina with six sacks. We could go Leonard Williams is 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.480 playing better. Daniel Jones, I think is sort of a 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.560 do it all guy right now, and it's been an 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.359 optimistic couple of weeks for Daniel Jones. But this is 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.639 also a team that gave up eighty two points to 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.800 the Rams and Cowboys. So it's to me it feels 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.240 like a get right spot for Kansas City. Everyone's falling 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:50.840 for that for one more week, but then they have 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.440 it's just pushing off much bigger questions down the road. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.240 I'm glad you brought Daniel Jones because as I watched 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:02.240 the game against the Panthers, three win, um, they obviously 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.080 didn't play great on offense, but Caroline is a good defense, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.040 and I thought Jones as I was watching the game, 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.440 He's such a difficult evaluation subject for the Giants because 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.520 we know where they are as an organization, and they 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.040 really are trending toward unless something changes here a hard reboot, 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.159 and that would probably mean you get rid of the 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.760 quarterback too. But when you watch him on a week 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.000 to week basis, I know the counting stats are just 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.320 never there for him, and I just sometimes I wonder 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.640 if that's if that's a that if that's on him, 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:31.560 or if it's just been kind of a weird, funky 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.760 career he has had. But I just come up, I'm 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:40.119 impressed by him. Ways. I'm still impressed by him. The 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.919 way he throws at times, the way he runs with 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.360 the catch, of course, a diving catch that's not gonna 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:46.639 be happening a lot, but it just shows you like 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.800 he's in that kind of Josh Allen mold. Is this 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.280 a guy that you want to get rid of? Would 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.160 you live to regret it? He's in his third year, 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:54.719 so you don't have to worry about I don't think 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.600 he's going anywhere. He's a good quarterback. He's an NFL 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.400 starting quarterback. Now what now? He I'd be average, which 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.320 means you will get paid. But he's going into his 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.359 fourth year. Next year. You're gonna have him under control 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.639 for five. He's the least of their problems. And I 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.360 think he's made a real step forward in year three 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.160 and and shown like what you can do when everything 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.439 is collapsing around you can still show that you're a 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:20.360 good player. All right, let's move on to the draft. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:24.960 All right, the old Zeuser with the first overall pick, 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.000