Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is still pissing all of
Speaker 1: Angelo's from the Chris Westling Podcast studio. It's the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. I'm Dan hands this, Greg Rostal, Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: You know, we have a new intro because the opportunity
Speaker 1: to name drop the legend Chris Westling at the top
Speaker 1: of every show is It's an honor quite frankly, and
Speaker 1: I love doing it. But it's the Chris Westling podcast studio.
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast duplicative. Yeah, that's the writer in
Speaker 1: you and the editor, which you know, Dan's an underrated
Speaker 1: writer long time you know, journo little backhanded company right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm just saying no, I mean, there are
Speaker 1: people and I haven't I've encountered them that don't realize
Speaker 1: that we right, So it's good to point that out.
Speaker 1: That's where it's where we came from. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: it bothers you as a writer whenever you have the
Speaker 1: same word like twice in the two See. I don't
Speaker 1: think it bothers every writer, um uh that are that's
Speaker 1: covering sports. But it should it should. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: mentioned Chris off the top here too, because that reminds
Speaker 1: me to reminder listeners to check out Lakisha's feature that
Speaker 1: that we talked a lot about. We had Keisha on
Speaker 1: our around the NFL broadcast. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: our listeners saw that because she sent it out in
Speaker 1: Social but some of you haven't. We haven't talked about
Speaker 1: in the podcast. And it was amazing what she did.
Speaker 1: And they are going to be airing a shorter version
Speaker 1: of it on Game Day Morning this weekend, so that's cool.
Speaker 1: And but you can see the full version at Keisha's
Speaker 1: Social Hands literally the director's cut, and like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. They played it also in the huge theater
Speaker 1: here at our workplace where we watch um have watched
Speaker 1: a couple of terrible Sunday night football games for the
Speaker 1: most part, you know, some good, not some not so good.
Speaker 1: The Lakisha did such amazing work and all the people
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that helped bring that to life, it
Speaker 1: was so well done. And Greg you spoke for the
Speaker 1: pod on in the segment, which was excellent, and Nick
Speaker 1: Westling spoke on behalf of the Westling Brothers and that
Speaker 1: was wonderful. And we heard from the doctors that uh
Speaker 1: and the surgeons that worked with West during his battle
Speaker 1: against cancer. So yes, check out if you're watching NFL Network,
Speaker 1: check out the short version. Go, but finally seek out
Speaker 1: the long one, because that that is the way to go.
Speaker 1: It was a little it was a little toward of Greg.
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna say something nice, but to demand
Speaker 1: high fees to appear in the video that that felt
Speaker 1: and no one else did. Just it was special to
Speaker 1: have Keisha here with us, and I hope we do
Speaker 1: on on a podcast. Uh soon enough. But that's one
Speaker 1: benefit of yeah, watching the long version, we got to
Speaker 1: talk about it with her afterwards. On that version, Mark,
Speaker 1: I would say that Greg's an underrated talking head, and
Speaker 1: like a sensitive piece like that, I would say, as
Speaker 1: he's been underrated. It is not a insult in any way.
Speaker 1: I just mean that that people don't think of the
Speaker 1: Zeus that way. He's you know, he's a podcast guy,
Speaker 1: he's a TV personality. Our writing has unfortunately, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when Dan and I met, we
Speaker 1: were turning to the mill where you're doing fourteen blogs today.
Speaker 1: I do remember Dan the writer quite distinctly. I mean,
Speaker 1: he still exists. I think about you as the writer.
Speaker 1: I remember that you guys are both time at your
Speaker 1: desks and I was just standing behind you with a
Speaker 1: whip going like, yeah you were. One day, when Mark
Speaker 1: and I do a spinoff show, it's just gonna be
Speaker 1: about like the two years where Greg was our boss.
Speaker 1: It's like four or five Terrell prior. Now he said
Speaker 1: something and we're not gonna pull any punches. It's going
Speaker 1: to be the true, unvarned story that Greg twice has
Speaker 1: done the whipping motion but not the sound of It's
Speaker 1: like he affected he's expecting the drop to come in there,
Speaker 1: right right, But it's like this is an audience. It's
Speaker 1: like when drew up the double middle finger and thought
Speaker 1: it would be blurred out. And sometimes things are just
Speaker 1: for you guys here it's okay, right, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: you're quickly on the receiving end of that from what
Speaker 1: we know about your outside of work. Let's all right, well, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get into that a little bit later. Uh. This
Speaker 1: is week eight. Here we go, we're almost at the
Speaker 1: midpoint of the season. Of course, this season is longer now.
Speaker 1: I think the branding of it and dare we disrespect
Speaker 1: the branding of it? This is the biggest season ever.
Speaker 1: That's one way to put it purely in quantity. Although
Speaker 1: I think it's been a good season so far. I'd
Speaker 1: give it a solid B so far. What would you
Speaker 1: give the season through seven weeks? B sounds about bordering
Speaker 1: on B plus. Yeah, I don't know that the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are great. I always think you know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of young quarterbacks, a lot of points. I mean, your
Speaker 1: personal fandom probably has to knock it down almost a
Speaker 1: full letter grade. It's just total terror. London trip for
Speaker 1: me knocked it up to an A personally for me,
Speaker 1: like everything leading up to Sunday kickoff was a plus,
Speaker 1: and then that then the the D minus game, uh,
Speaker 1: and then the Sunday game against the Patriots. Now we're
Speaker 1: getting into f territory. But that's just me personally. So
Speaker 1: maybe I see the rest of the season as an
Speaker 1: A minus and it's got credit to the season that
Speaker 1: it's a base. I'm legitimately all right, let's get into
Speaker 1: the games of Week eight. You could check out the
Speaker 1: Thursday night recap Packers Cardinals speaking a lot of talk
Speaker 1: the biggest, the greatest Thursday night football game ever. Well,
Speaker 1: six and oh against seven and oh six and one
Speaker 1: against seven and oh yeah, we'll see check out Greg's
Speaker 1: recap with special guests Patrick. So he agreed if he
Speaker 1: came around to I didn't follow up with him, but
Speaker 1: he said yes. In the moment, it was it was
Speaker 1: an awkward enough request that I was there for. It
Speaker 1: was that I actually had through what he had to
Speaker 1: do that day. Which day is that Thursday? Where you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's what If you find yourself in a pinch, Greg,
Speaker 1: I will jump in and be your partner for recap.
Speaker 1: I felt I felt compelled based on revisit it, because yeah,
Speaker 1: Clay Bonn is a friend, and at this point we
Speaker 1: know enough that like asking a friend to do the podcast,
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean you're doing them a favor, they're
Speaker 1: doing you a favor. So I should revisit, whether it's
Speaker 1: a little later revisit honest, that was more like a
Speaker 1: follow up later in the day. Hey man, sorry to
Speaker 1: put you on the spot there. If you have something
Speaker 1: else going on, let me know. And and Dan already
Speaker 1: said he would jump in, so it's fine. I thought
Speaker 1: about that. You know, get credit for thinking about sending
Speaker 1: that text, but I did forget. Let's start with the
Speaker 1: primetime games to come later in the weekend. Let's start
Speaker 1: with a gorgeous game on Halloween Night, Dallas Cowboys at
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. The Cowboys coming off their bye week at
Speaker 1: five and one, feeling good, looking good, playing good um
Speaker 1: and the Vikings are very hard to pin down three
Speaker 1: and three also coming off thereby, we had a reef
Speaker 1: asan on from the athletic last week, and we delved
Speaker 1: into all the drama around the Vikings. Who you know
Speaker 1: when we did that fact to exercise on Tuesday trying
Speaker 1: to pick a new team. The Vikings are team I
Speaker 1: always enjoy following. But again, I am not getting into
Speaker 1: the pain rankings business. I'm not going from Jets to
Speaker 1: Vikings fan that's a terrible situation. And people like Banetta
Speaker 1: and everybody else say, oh, bad job with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Oh I might want to go to a franchise with
Speaker 1: a superstar quarterback that's going to the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: and a great fan base and a winning culture. How absurd.
Speaker 1: It's a fair retort on your part. And you were
Speaker 1: immersis you know, we came after you and it was
Speaker 1: hard after me. So anyway, so there you go. The
Speaker 1: Vikings a tough three and three to figure out? Mark,
Speaker 1: where do you come down on this game? Because I
Speaker 1: think hanging over everything, and I think how you watched
Speaker 1: this game, especially in the early the first half. How's
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott? How is that Calf? Because remember I had
Speaker 1: to check the notes the backup quarterback behind Dak Prescott?
Speaker 1: Does anybody know there's a string of the Cooper Rush?
Speaker 1: It's Cooper Rush who was thrown for I don't know.
Speaker 1: It used to be your guy Mike White. Now on
Speaker 1: the Jets. He's thrown for three yards in five years.
Speaker 1: So if Dad goes down, everything's finished. Your thoughts, Mark, Well,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you know, they said in quotes, he
Speaker 1: did a lot of work on on Wednesday. He's doing
Speaker 1: it again today and they he's looked good, So you
Speaker 1: know there's real optimism that he can play, that he'll
Speaker 1: be himself, which they need him to be. And if
Speaker 1: he is um and this, you know, I get the
Speaker 1: Packers Cardinals thing, but this is up there in that
Speaker 1: echelon of games because I think for us watching the vikings,
Speaker 1: like from I've been typically down on on the vikings,
Speaker 1: and my interest in them is climbing because of who
Speaker 1: they are on offense that you've got Clint kubiak Um
Speaker 1: allowing Kirk Cousins to throw the ball about forty times
Speaker 1: a game. Justin Jefferson Adam thelan kJ Osborne who's in
Speaker 1: the last you know month become one of the more
Speaker 1: exciting young whiteouts. They're coming off there by both teams are.
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is healthy. So it just is it unlike
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Cardinals game. It's like everyone sounds like
Speaker 1: they're good. Michael Gallutt might be back. The one thing
Speaker 1: for me though, if you're looking at where this could
Speaker 1: just turn into a bit of a train wreck for
Speaker 1: Minnesota because to me, it vibes high scoring shootout that
Speaker 1: like all Vikings games go down to the end. They
Speaker 1: lost to the Browns, Bengals and Cardinals by a combined
Speaker 1: eleven points. They lose close games, they win close games,
Speaker 1: um close fights, heartbreakers such as who they are, I
Speaker 1: expect this to go that way. But Patrick Peterson, who's
Speaker 1: played really well from Minnesota out of the lineup. You're
Speaker 1: asking Camlon Danceller to come in, who has not been
Speaker 1: a huge asset for them, but Shod Brilon has been struggling.
Speaker 1: So you just look at what Dallas has on offense,
Speaker 1: and you wonder can they get to a point where
Speaker 1: they're suddenly up by, you know, seventeen points going into
Speaker 1: the third quarter. It's like every week that that that
Speaker 1: has so many mismatches to pick from and you're right
Speaker 1: losing Peterson is is key. It was bizarre that they
Speaker 1: bench Danceller, who was their best cornerback a year ago
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Seems like some sort of Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: personal thing wasn't happy about his attitude. He's gonna need him. Uh.
Speaker 1: These defenses have been underrated, like they're both top ten
Speaker 1: d v o A, but underrated defenses still give up
Speaker 1: thirty points when they play a real deal offense. And
Speaker 1: I trust the Cowboys offense and Mike McCarthy actually to
Speaker 1: realize that we are an offensive team. Let's play to it.
Speaker 1: Like I know, Kirk Cousins is playing more free and
Speaker 1: he's had to throw a lot, but a lot of
Speaker 1: that's because they fall behind. When they get ahead, they
Speaker 1: kind of get into their little shell. They start running
Speaker 1: on first and second down, and they invite these close
Speaker 1: games when they don't need it. So I trust the
Speaker 1: Cowboys more to stay aggressive the whole game instead of
Speaker 1: just when they have the leader when they're behind. I
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be this is my prediction for
Speaker 1: and it's not too bold, but game of the Week.
Speaker 1: I think it sets up really well that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are going to score points, but Minnesota has the ammunition
Speaker 1: to fire back with Justin Jefferson Adam feeling a healthy
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook coming off to buy. Uh, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: chew him up on the ground, I think. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna have they I think a shootout here and uh.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Vikings here and I know
Speaker 1: I I just have a feeling that they are going
Speaker 1: to really show up in this game. He had Davina
Speaker 1: Cook had a hundred and forty three yards and thirty
Speaker 1: one touches before Minnesota's buy. So you know the fact
Speaker 1: that he gets a chance now to get to get
Speaker 1: a blow. He's always banged up, he's had the ankle issues.
Speaker 1: He's gonna come out well. So I like the Vikings
Speaker 1: in an upset. I'm with I want to be with you.
Speaker 1: But part of me that's really enjoyed this Kirk Cousins season,
Speaker 1: and I think that the difference is he's throwing these
Speaker 1: balls up to Osborne and Jefferson when he could take
Speaker 1: the underneath stuff. He's getting aggressive? Is that? Couldn't you
Speaker 1: see after all these games at you know, ten am
Speaker 1: Pacific that he's playing well that like, here comes the
Speaker 1: primetime game and Cousins has a Cousin like ending and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, there's Kirk Cousins again. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to I know, but I'm now I'm like in
Speaker 1: Cousins corner and I don't want Cousins. I'm in Cousins corner.
Speaker 1: You're in the plexiglass box. I'm taken up. You know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to take West of Spot, but I'm
Speaker 1: to be a kissing cousin. I'm gonna. I'm gonna apply
Speaker 1: for membership. I've just enjoyed that you guys can evolve,
Speaker 1: and I've enjoyed his his verb this year. And I
Speaker 1: and I've been out on the kissing things. So I
Speaker 1: said some verb. He's playing with a little verb. He's
Speaker 1: entertaining me. That's what's important. I like the idea of
Speaker 1: because that plexiglass cube that Kirk Cousins stays in not
Speaker 1: to give everyone COVID because he won't get the jab.
Speaker 1: It's a little tight for two people, but Greg is
Speaker 1: a smaller framed man. You put Greg in there and
Speaker 1: he's gotta strip down and grease up. But then we
Speaker 1: just slide them right into the cube with Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: and like, that's just I'm picturing that. I don't think
Speaker 1: technically how it would work. So it's like, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think removing your clothes would open up that
Speaker 1: much extra space, Ricky, if you think if you move
Speaker 1: the clothes but also lather Greg up in Greece, really,
Speaker 1: I'm like getting flashbacks to the sideline of the of
Speaker 1: the London game where you were doing those sound effects
Speaker 1: in reference to something I'm gonna throw up. Let's let's
Speaker 1: move on, Let's keep moving, let's I like working. It's
Speaker 1: technic clear how Greg would fix, you know, fit into
Speaker 1: the structure again. We're getting his window into He's not
Speaker 1: wearing what's there, He's not wearing a puffy jacket and jeans.
Speaker 1: Get into that cube, smooth him down. I can take
Speaker 1: off the jackets and mask up. Dude. That's Giants a
Speaker 1: Chiefs is the other game Monday Night Football. This is November,
Speaker 1: now November one before into it, I had a message
Speaker 1: for you guys. Okay, hello heroes. We took a big
Speaker 1: loss last week when the Titans demolished the Chiefs. How
Speaker 1: did it happen? Who knows, but it did. It's very
Speaker 1: upset we didn't let him lock up the Bengals over
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Like, oh, that's a good call. Tip. He's
Speaker 1: turning into a total elitist Bengals fan right now. In fact,
Speaker 1: he's sitting in his one bedroom apartment Higa Top Prace
Speaker 1: Hill on the west side of Cincinnati, sipping on a
Speaker 1: Sauvignon blanc from the board Due region of France. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we could pick this week since we didn't let him
Speaker 1: last week. So he's locking up the cowboys over the bike. Okay,
Speaker 1: you may ask, why isn't Tim doing this recording? Well,
Speaker 1: Tim likes to sleep sometimes fifteen hours a day. How
Speaker 1: does he sleep fifteen hours a day? Well, Tim doesn't
Speaker 1: have a job. That's okay, we love it anyway, man,
Speaker 1: I would say, like, I understand that was like unmasked
Speaker 1: shots at Tim. But Tim has a lot figured out
Speaker 1: from what I for what I'm apparently not. According to
Speaker 1: Nick Wowep, Nick heard my message that Tim really brought
Speaker 1: the heat and he came with it this week. He dever,
Speaker 1: Tim is one of those guys who looks like he
Speaker 1: sleeps fifteen hours and look batches up with the reality. Wow, Nick,
Speaker 1: I hope you have something to fire back on your
Speaker 1: brother when you do get the opportunity and you wake up.
Speaker 1: By the way, those standings for the locks Us are
Speaker 1: on a six game winning streak six and one, Mark
Speaker 1: five and two, the Listeners, and the Westling brothers four
Speaker 1: and three, Greg three and four, Ricky two and four
Speaker 1: to and four. Seems pretty good for Erica. Actually, she's
Speaker 1: on a bit of a dynasty. Yeah. The first week
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to play, right, Greg was that was
Speaker 1: not comfortable man splaining the rules of a picks game. Alright,
Speaker 1: Giants at Chiefs, uh, Monday night football. You know, usually
Speaker 1: this game would not pack any intrigue because, al right,
Speaker 1: giants being led to slaughter at Arrowhead. But the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are so messed up right now, They're just so terrible
Speaker 1: that they've become a curiosity. And I thought there was
Speaker 1: something very interesting that happened on third on Sunday's game. Um,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry if I shared this already, but I
Speaker 1: just want to say it again. When the Chiefs lined
Speaker 1: up for the fifty seven yard field goal down to
Speaker 1: three late in the third quarter, it really just jumped
Speaker 1: out to me. I was like, whoa, where are we?
Speaker 1: How do we get here? And that's just the offense
Speaker 1: and that's not even it used to be. We were
Speaker 1: worried about the turnovers, and we're still worried about the turners,
Speaker 1: but now we're worried about like, is all this stuff
Speaker 1: about the two high safeties? Have they flummixed the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid to the point where they no longer
Speaker 1: can function as an elite offense. So the Giants, who
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you, gregor frisky and they're not
Speaker 1: a good team, but you know on the right day
Speaker 1: that you you catch them and they're kind of fun
Speaker 1: to watch. They're still banged up, but it is going
Speaker 1: to be an interesting again test of where the Chiefs are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if Cadarius Tony was available for this game, or Barkley
Speaker 1: or Golladay for that matter, I would like even he
Speaker 1: stepped on a guy's foot and now he's just gonna
Speaker 1: be It sounds like they will practice Friday. Okay, that
Speaker 1: then that that helps. They missed Thursday's practice and it
Speaker 1: is a Monday night game. That would make me feel
Speaker 1: that the Giants at least can cover this ten and
Speaker 1: a half points. The Chiefs are four and fourteen against
Speaker 1: the spread in their last eighteen so that's just like
Speaker 1: a very clean way to say who's overrated, who's like
Speaker 1: they're let their worse than people expect. And that started
Speaker 1: early last season and in the field goal moment is
Speaker 1: really well said, Dan, and it's kind of part of
Speaker 1: this largest part of that second half, which was those
Speaker 1: drives they were going on against Tennessee down twenty twenty
Speaker 1: seven points, where like these ten play drives, eight teen
Speaker 1: play drives, so even when they were behind, they could
Speaker 1: not speed up and that was really surprising to me.
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones is playing well enough to keep
Speaker 1: them competitive, uh in this game, and it's because the
Speaker 1: Chiefs haven't really found that other option other than Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Tyreek Hill, like Josh Gordon. Remember when they
Speaker 1: signed Josh Gordon. Josh Gordon has one catch. I'm not
Speaker 1: shocked by that. I mean, I think that you're right
Speaker 1: though they're on a search for someone else other than that,
Speaker 1: because Tennessee, with a depleted secondary to some degree, took
Speaker 1: care of business last week against both of those guys.
Speaker 1: Like there was they didn't show up in the first half,
Speaker 1: and you go back to like the playoff game where
Speaker 1: they were down to Houston, and to your point, Greg,
Speaker 1: you kind of would watch I remember watching that with
Speaker 1: West and we're like, the Chiefs are totally gonna win
Speaker 1: this because you completely were entranced by their explosiveness on offense.
Speaker 1: And it's not the case right now. They've trailed by
Speaker 1: fourteen plus three times this year. It happened like four
Speaker 1: times in the last like four seasons or something. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that you can ask the defense to
Speaker 1: heal itself. I think the offensive line got worked over
Speaker 1: by the Titans last week, and the Giants, for all
Speaker 1: their ups and downs and all their injured players, they
Speaker 1: took care of business against a bad offensive line in
Speaker 1: Carolina with six sacks. We could go Leonard Williams is
Speaker 1: playing better. Daniel Jones, I think is sort of a
Speaker 1: do it all guy right now, and it's been an
Speaker 1: optimistic couple of weeks for Daniel Jones. But this is
Speaker 1: also a team that gave up eighty two points to
Speaker 1: the Rams and Cowboys. So it's to me it feels
Speaker 1: like a get right spot for Kansas City. Everyone's falling
Speaker 1: for that for one more week, but then they have
Speaker 1: it's just pushing off much bigger questions down the road.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought Daniel Jones because as I watched
Speaker 1: the game against the Panthers, three win, um, they obviously
Speaker 1: didn't play great on offense, but Caroline is a good defense,
Speaker 1: and I thought Jones as I was watching the game,
Speaker 1: He's such a difficult evaluation subject for the Giants because
Speaker 1: we know where they are as an organization, and they
Speaker 1: really are trending toward unless something changes here a hard reboot,
Speaker 1: and that would probably mean you get rid of the
Speaker 1: quarterback too. But when you watch him on a week
Speaker 1: to week basis, I know the counting stats are just
Speaker 1: never there for him, and I just sometimes I wonder
Speaker 1: if that's if that's a that if that's on him,
Speaker 1: or if it's just been kind of a weird, funky
Speaker 1: career he has had. But I just come up, I'm
Speaker 1: impressed by him. Ways. I'm still impressed by him. The
Speaker 1: way he throws at times, the way he runs with
Speaker 1: the catch, of course, a diving catch that's not gonna
Speaker 1: be happening a lot, but it just shows you like
Speaker 1: he's in that kind of Josh Allen mold. Is this
Speaker 1: a guy that you want to get rid of? Would
Speaker 1: you live to regret it? He's in his third year,
Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about I don't think
Speaker 1: he's going anywhere. He's a good quarterback. He's an NFL
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Now what now? He I'd be average, which
Speaker 1: means you will get paid. But he's going into his
Speaker 1: fourth year. Next year. You're gonna have him under control
Speaker 1: for five. He's the least of their problems. And I
Speaker 1: think he's made a real step forward in year three
Speaker 1: and and shown like what you can do when everything
Speaker 1: is collapsing around you can still show that you're a
Speaker 1: good player. All right, let's move on to the draft.
Speaker 1: All right, the old Zeuser with the first overall pick,
Speaker 1: and I will start with a late game, and the
Speaker 1: game I will pick is the Buccaneers at the Saints.
Speaker 1: All Right, Okay, I love it. I love it. Saints,
Speaker 1: NFC South. This is kind of Greg's domain. You love
Speaker 1: this stuff, Greg, But um, I just want to see rivalry.
Speaker 1: I like the rivalry. I want to see. This is
Speaker 1: the kind of game that I've been circling, Like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's see what you got, Jamis. Let's see what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do in a big time division clash where now
Speaker 1: a little deeper into the season and you're gonna need
Speaker 1: to make some plays. I came out of Day Night
Speaker 1: not impressed at all, um by the way he played
Speaker 1: in that game. I mentioned it on the Tuesday show Eli,
Speaker 1: you know mild Mannard. Of course, Eli famously just killing
Speaker 1: Jamis for botching what should have been a touchdown on
Speaker 1: that last drive and he just didn't have the awareness
Speaker 1: and didn't see the play unfold what should have been
Speaker 1: an easy tight end screen pass for a TV. So
Speaker 1: Eli is a great analyst, he really is. He does
Speaker 1: a good Yeah, he really did break that down. Well,
Speaker 1: So here we go now with a chance against the
Speaker 1: Bucks defense that is obviously tough, and I just want
Speaker 1: to see how good if the Bucks are gonna do,
Speaker 1: If they're just gonna keep getting better and just cressed
Speaker 1: and and roll into the playoffs as a Juggernaut's kind
Speaker 1: of how I see this. I see the Bucks as
Speaker 1: the UM. Even though I have the Cardinals EDD and
Speaker 1: power rankings, I think the Bucks are the team that
Speaker 1: are going to come out of this conference with the
Speaker 1: number one seed. So this is a great challenge, and
Speaker 1: I love that it's at the Superdome, which even the
Speaker 1: scales a little bit more. Like a few things show
Speaker 1: me how much both teams have changed, and the Bucks
Speaker 1: to your power rankings point or a Super Bowl team
Speaker 1: that's gotten better, and like, can you imagine either result
Speaker 1: from last year where the Saints put it on in
Speaker 1: the thirty four to twenty three, then thirty eight to three.
Speaker 1: It just wouldn't happen to this week nine. It was
Speaker 1: right about the same same moment here. It just wouldn't
Speaker 1: happen this time. And I think it's a great test
Speaker 1: for what the Saints are right now, because yes they
Speaker 1: are not UM necessarily they weren't a fun watch obviously
Speaker 1: on on Monday Night, but their defense is very spicy,
Speaker 1: and I think it's I just want to see how
Speaker 1: this shakes out. They've gotten healthier last week, they're getting
Speaker 1: healthier this week, and it's a great test for Tom
Speaker 1: Brady for me. I mean, also, the Saints have brought
Speaker 1: mark Ingram back into the mix, and they've said that
Speaker 1: it is absolutely possible that he will play this weekend.
Speaker 1: And I kind of like that reunion for their backfield
Speaker 1: because post Latavious Murray, they need someone to help move
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara around to different spots and spell them at times.
Speaker 1: I mean, good for him though he was on the
Speaker 1: tech good vibes. It's good vibes bringing mark Ingram back.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna make them happier. I think that
Speaker 1: this same defense present some problems for Tom Brady um
Speaker 1: that other defenses don't. I know those two games feel
Speaker 1: like a long time ago, but even in the playoff game,
Speaker 1: they forced a couple of mistakes. I know they put
Speaker 1: up thirty points in that game, but he was held
Speaker 1: under two yards passing if you remember it. They didn't
Speaker 1: do anything in the second half. It was really the
Speaker 1: Saints defense. Who are the Bucks defense who forced four
Speaker 1: turnovers who won that game? And the Saints have done
Speaker 1: a good job against Tom Brady where I think there's
Speaker 1: a chance you could keep the Bucks under thirty. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's all you can hope for, is like to
Speaker 1: keep them to seven or something. Now, can Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: and this Saints offense get to thirty. I I have
Speaker 1: my doubts, even though I think six or something. I
Speaker 1: mean on offense, I mean, you gotta get it, Like,
Speaker 1: can you score thirty on offense? And I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: another Manning cast moment, which is uh one play last
Speaker 1: week where the Seahawk zero blitz and they just go,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go man to man everywhere else and the
Speaker 1: Mannings were going crazy because no one was open, Like,
Speaker 1: you gotta have some receivers that can get open. And
Speaker 1: we talked about it in the off season, like are
Speaker 1: they really going to go out there with like Marcus
Speaker 1: Callaway and trade Kuan Smith and Adam Troutman and these
Speaker 1: guys trying to win matchups? I mean that has to
Speaker 1: be taken into account. This group has not exceeded expectations.
Speaker 1: It's been right where you thought they would be, and
Speaker 1: they just don't have many playmakers you can get open
Speaker 1: until Michael Thomas Michael Thomas status it sounds like a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks away and Adam Troutman was the guy
Speaker 1: that I think appeared and probably seventy thousand fantasy articles. Goodness, Well,
Speaker 1: they're going to explode because there is no other tighten
Speaker 1: on the is Alvin Kamara, and Jamis just isn't that
Speaker 1: great at the short routes. And he's a weird quarterback
Speaker 1: that's better intermediate and deep. And he put some nice
Speaker 1: deep throws on the Seahawks and they weren't complete. But
Speaker 1: the Bucks have the one guy who is kind of
Speaker 1: the Akse stopper. They drafted Devin White to stop Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamara and for the most party slowed him down since
Speaker 1: he was drafted. All right, up next, Mark Sessler, you
Speaker 1: will select, Well, I'm gonna go where you know I
Speaker 1: have to go emotionally, it's going to be the Browns
Speaker 1: and the Steelers because it's a good game and I
Speaker 1: don't trust someone else not to steal it if I
Speaker 1: allow this, you know, process to go on for another
Speaker 1: four unit. That's a good game. That's one of the
Speaker 1: best games. That's a big game. You think it's a
Speaker 1: big game. Two fan bases, it is. I'm just quarterback.
Speaker 1: Is where we had a Baker is practicing and he's
Speaker 1: practicing as the starter, and he's interesting, Man, did that
Speaker 1: he'll that he'll play? That's true? I think that like
Speaker 1: he I think there's more steps, but you know he
Speaker 1: isn't shelved. He is out there throwing. They said he
Speaker 1: looked good throwing short intermediate. They didn't report on it.
Speaker 1: It is funny thinking back, I kind of forgot that happened.
Speaker 1: That Baker was like, I side whether I'm playing or not,
Speaker 1: Well that was la. They were like, that was not
Speaker 1: the case. I know. Here's the thing, because this game
Speaker 1: suddenly we're here and it's like an offseason. I know,
Speaker 1: it started with me ripping down the Steelers and having
Speaker 1: my fun, and then you start as the months creep up,
Speaker 1: it's like suddenly in July, it's September, it's October. You
Speaker 1: kind of game. I was just gonna say that you
Speaker 1: cannot take this Brown's experience seriously if they don't go
Speaker 1: and back up what happened in that playoff game, because
Speaker 1: this is a Steelers team that's still vulnerable. Yet they
Speaker 1: are very healthy right now. I think they had almost
Speaker 1: no one on their injury report of note at all
Speaker 1: this week. Tomlin seems super fired up. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: the USC question, just in general. I think you got
Speaker 1: Tomlin coming off of by their four no in their
Speaker 1: last four times coming off of By. They are three
Speaker 1: and oh against the Browns coming off of By, and
Speaker 1: I think it matters. They've had another week to look
Speaker 1: at where Cleveland's at, and especially that Denver game. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna surprise him way the Broncos got surprised. They
Speaker 1: haven't allowed dirty points all year long. T J Watt,
Speaker 1: Cam Haywards, Payol. And here's the X factor that really,
Speaker 1: really really for me concerns me. Jim Nance, Tony Romo
Speaker 1: on the call. The Browns have had some of their
Speaker 1: most embarrassing, most frustrating performances with these guys, and you
Speaker 1: can just here Tony Romo just sort of being like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jim, like big Ben still got it,
Speaker 1: like just you know, riffing on Mark's Raider so hard.
Speaker 1: Oh he is, because that when Jim Nance and Roma
Speaker 1: are on the call, something in the building change too big,
Speaker 1: it's too bid. Like now the Browns are finally reached
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain in terms of like they're
Speaker 1: playing in big games and they can't get over that.
Speaker 1: I will. Here's the one concession there in the cellar there,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing you're the there's an argument for
Speaker 1: you being the worst team in a very good division.
Speaker 1: Still a decent team, but that Denver game, I thought,
Speaker 1: I will say, I want to say one thing. I
Speaker 1: thought that Denver game caause one of my favorite Browns
Speaker 1: performances under Stefanski. It wasn't flashy, but it kind of
Speaker 1: showed who they are and they were in a dark
Speaker 1: place and they come back. Then say that we would
Speaker 1: have come back. Well, you guys can have your way
Speaker 1: with it now. But it's like this game does make
Speaker 1: me nervous. I shouldn't be watching it. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: Vinny Testaverti's father. I don't need this on a Sunday ticker.
Speaker 1: Cannot handle it. Um, you know what Baker should do.
Speaker 1: He should go to the media and say, I demand
Speaker 1: that I do not play this week. I am not ready,
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, I'll show you Baker put him
Speaker 1: in the lineup. It just kind of funny because I
Speaker 1: can't quite imagine any other quarterback saying that. So why
Speaker 1: is It's totally out of protocol. So so like you know, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a big game and I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know Mark this is there. It's can't make
Speaker 1: sense of the Browns all season. They've been a little
Speaker 1: bit of a tough team to read. So to get
Speaker 1: them now against the Steelers, and the Steelers obviously still
Speaker 1: peeved about what happened in January, they were They now
Speaker 1: get a chance to get some revenge going to Cleveland. Um.
Speaker 1: If to me, it comes down to can the Steelers
Speaker 1: build off the last couple of weeks Um Naj Harris, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know he is if he gets a little more help,
Speaker 1: a little better blocking, If the offense can um do
Speaker 1: a little bit more through the air, I think he
Speaker 1: becomes an offensive Brookie of the Year guy because he's there, uh,
Speaker 1: number one receiver, he's their primary ball carrier. He's on
Speaker 1: the field and he's been been a good blocker. He's
Speaker 1: doing everything they want him to do. They just need
Speaker 1: Ben and the passing game to get a little bit
Speaker 1: together and the blocking up front that's so important that
Speaker 1: they kind of continue to build on some uh some
Speaker 1: positive aspects of the last two weeks. He Harris has
Speaker 1: been solid, but he's not winning anything with with Jamar Chase,
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts and Mac Jones in the it is just
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But they need him in the running
Speaker 1: game to be good because their offense has such a
Speaker 1: limited ceiling throwing the ball like there that game on
Speaker 1: Sunday night against the Seahawks was typical to me. That
Speaker 1: was one of the better games they had throwing the
Speaker 1: ball and as an offense. But then they needed overtime
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks defense that have been struggling to get
Speaker 1: to three hundred and fifty yards and in twenty three
Speaker 1: points or whatever it was. It's just it's limited and
Speaker 1: I I don't feel like I'm struggling with with the Browns.
Speaker 1: They've just been injured. I want to know that Jarvis
Speaker 1: Landry's playing. It sounds like he is, says he is,
Speaker 1: but we don't know that Clowney, who's been great for them,
Speaker 1: like has been even better I think than they could
Speaker 1: have hoped for so far. He's a little banged up.
Speaker 1: Denz Award really changes their secondary when he's not in there,
Speaker 1: and he sounds quite iffy. But to me, they're just
Speaker 1: a better team than the Steelers. They've got the assistant
Speaker 1: coach of the Year Bill Callahan. Let's start that movement.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who's on the offensive line. You can run
Speaker 1: the ball when you've got a Callaghan on your on
Speaker 1: your roster, on your coaching staff. He he really is
Speaker 1: like the most. It's not Ni Kareem Hunt and the
Speaker 1: rookie who's a real player. It's it's Bill Callahan. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's give them the trophy. Give the trophy. Show me
Speaker 1: the teams that Bill Callahan did not dramatically improve their
Speaker 1: running game, they would not be the same without him.
Speaker 1: I I really believe that. And and so I think
Speaker 1: as long as this Browns are relatively healthy, and even
Speaker 1: if Keenam played, I really liked them in this game.
Speaker 1: I just think they're a better team. I think they're
Speaker 1: a good team. You gotta do it, though, it's I'm
Speaker 1: with you, gotta do it. Gonna be some big Sessler
Speaker 1: energy going on in the early games. Looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, all right, let's move on. Uh, Greg,
Speaker 1: you're up, buddy. All right, this is easy. I'm taking
Speaker 1: the Pats and the Chargers right across the street over
Speaker 1: at so far. I want you to know that I
Speaker 1: still have two jumps on you, and I very very
Speaker 1: nearly jumped you, but I said I don't want to
Speaker 1: be a mean guy, So you can jump me after
Speaker 1: you've already used your pick. Okay, I didn't. I could
Speaker 1: jump you at any time, and I've done it once
Speaker 1: and I have two more. Were first you got herschel
Speaker 1: Walker level trade. It also wouldn't make sense you took
Speaker 1: the Bucks, Saints and the Patriots Chargers. Then I could
Speaker 1: have given it to Mark or something or Shook. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could just wheel and deal for destruction, but I
Speaker 1: chose not to go ahead. Sure Savior jumps that. It
Speaker 1: helps the show. It adds a little more at tension,
Speaker 1: and let me watch this. I haven't watched any Paths
Speaker 1: live almost this year. I haven't wanted to. They haven't
Speaker 1: been that interesting, but I'm interested now they got my attention.
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is playing better each and every week. They're
Speaker 1: going to book against Herbert, who they held to no
Speaker 1: points a year ago. His worst game as a pro
Speaker 1: came against the Patriots. Don't think that's gonna carry over
Speaker 1: very well because they don't have the same defensive backs.
Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmore's playing for the Panthers. They lost Jonathan Jones
Speaker 1: for the season, one of the most underrated cornerbacks, one
Speaker 1: of the better slot cornerbacks in the league. So now
Speaker 1: you're down two corners. I'm including that you're down Gilmore
Speaker 1: because when you're starting Jalen Mills and you're starting this
Speaker 1: guy Miles Bryant who just came off the practice squad,
Speaker 1: like you're down, they are not the same secondary. So
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to stay aggressive offensively. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to score points to beat this Chargers team,
Speaker 1: and I think they could potentially do it. I think
Speaker 1: they are rounding into shape on offense, and Damien Harris
Speaker 1: and this inside running game is great. They've stopped it
Speaker 1: with the outside runs. They've stopped trying to get to fancy.
Speaker 1: They've settled on an offensive line group now with own
Speaker 1: when you at right tackle, uh and the interior is
Speaker 1: stabilized and Win at left tackle. That I think they like.
Speaker 1: They're gonna start the same group for the second straight
Speaker 1: week for the first time maybe all season, and I
Speaker 1: think they could give the Chargers a lot of problems
Speaker 1: that I think it'll be a fun game. I love
Speaker 1: the Patriots to cover five and a half. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they win this, but I really think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be They're gonna be competitive, and I thought a
Speaker 1: few things were more impressive. And I know it was
Speaker 1: the Jets, so you can you can put it on
Speaker 1: that scale. But Harris just slashing the middle of of
Speaker 1: New York's defense over and over, and this is a
Speaker 1: good I mean, the Chargers run defense is one of
Speaker 1: the biggest issues. So you like that set up. I
Speaker 1: think Matt Jones, you know, throwing for three plus, it
Speaker 1: looked like the offense just took a tangible step forward
Speaker 1: with the chances they were willing to take. With some
Speaker 1: trickery as well. They kind of just went for it
Speaker 1: and flex their muscles and they put it on on
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert a year ago. It's a different season and
Speaker 1: the Chargers. You know, the one thing I love about
Speaker 1: Brandon Stilly on a bye week is that he went
Speaker 1: deep into the lab. He's all about analytics, and you know,
Speaker 1: they've been a very good team on third down, um
Speaker 1: the sixth highest conversion rate on third down with Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: But he basically said we've got to get much better
Speaker 1: on earlier day. I think he's just he's coming up
Speaker 1: with some new plans. But their offensive line, also, which
Speaker 1: we were worried about, has been one of the better
Speaker 1: past protecting lines. In the league, which is a huge
Speaker 1: change from a year ago. We'll get to it a
Speaker 1: little bit later when we get to the forty niners.
Speaker 1: But like going into your off your bye week analytics
Speaker 1: deep dive, it usually only works if you have a
Speaker 1: really good quarterback to execute everything they do. And I
Speaker 1: think Justin Herbert is going to have a big game here.
Speaker 1: I don't trust the Patriots defense. I actually trust their
Speaker 1: offense more. I think they are a better offense team
Speaker 1: right now. So I'm just I'm just saying that I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots, and you've been banging the drub on this,
Speaker 1: Greg that you look at the Patriots wins. They beat
Speaker 1: the Jets twice, they beat Houston, uh barely in in Houston,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, the Dallas games show they
Speaker 1: can hang with a good team. But am I soul
Speaker 1: that the Patriots aren't one of those teams Like they're
Speaker 1: gonna beat all the bad teams. They're gonna win about
Speaker 1: half of the matchups against the good teams and then
Speaker 1: get beat by anybody that is very good or above.
Speaker 1: The difference maybe a little better if you're a Patriots fan.
Speaker 1: The difference is Mac Jones Overcamp. So the whole thing.
Speaker 1: When I look at the Patriots right now, is is
Speaker 1: mac Jones going to continue to ascend and then by
Speaker 1: the end of the year be seen as like the
Speaker 1: breakout quarterback. I think it's in play. I really do
Speaker 1: like him. But I like the Chargers this week a lot.
Speaker 1: In fact, I like them so much and it it is.
Speaker 1: It matters because there's something magic, there's something magical going
Speaker 1: on with it. I got some sprinkled dust here. Uh, Ricky,
Speaker 1: this is not personal, even though you're wearing the oversized
Speaker 1: edel in jersey. Up. Yes, let's go Bolts. Show me
Speaker 1: a Bolts by the way little thing. Everyone wants to
Speaker 1: crown the Bolts as a superpower. Okay, come off your
Speaker 1: by in your building and spank the Patriots. They'll do it,
Speaker 1: and I'm counting on them to do it. They're healthier defensively,
Speaker 1: some guys like at the linebacker spot and Justin Jones
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle that aren't big names but are starters
Speaker 1: that they were missing against Baltimore. I think they have
Speaker 1: three starters returning after. Are you worried about the sprinkle
Speaker 1: a little bit? You're using the the your dark magic
Speaker 1: um to make your Sunday more enjoyable by burying the
Speaker 1: team you dislike the most, and um in burying me
Speaker 1: in the process. This game in person, you could cross,
Speaker 1: you could. It's like a two yard strip up. It
Speaker 1: would be I mean, nailed all that analysis. By the way,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, um, yeah, which I should
Speaker 1: be able to do that, damn it. Just tell say
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal and then the door open. I entered
Speaker 1: the raffle, by the way, I've done that like twelve times.
Speaker 1: If I were to win the Raffle, I would I
Speaker 1: would consider giving you the tickets. Okay, I haven't heard yet.
Speaker 1: I'll let you know. All right, let's move on. I said,
Speaker 1: consider Greg. It's snakes, do you, buddy, It's a very
Speaker 1: active snake this. I know. I'm waiting for the end
Speaker 1: of this. I think you're primed to get jumped here.
Speaker 1: Pick um, big game, big AFC South game, nice early game.
Speaker 1: That is a good game. That's a good pick. It's
Speaker 1: it's the chance for the Colts to get back to relevance. Now,
Speaker 1: if they end up three and five, if you look
Speaker 1: at their schedule the rest of the way, I still
Speaker 1: think they will get back into the wild card mix.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't end their season, but this really raises
Speaker 1: the ceiling. It gives you a chance to win the division.
Speaker 1: It gives you a chance to, you know, really look
Speaker 1: at themselves and and be proud that they overcame the
Speaker 1: start that they did. They've outscored their opponents since they
Speaker 1: last played the Titans in their three wins by fifty points.
Speaker 1: They've got a runner and Jonathan Taylor, who I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say he's better than Derrick Henry, but I take
Speaker 1: him in this game over Derrick Henry because I am
Speaker 1: the Colts. At the Colts, according to E p A
Speaker 1: and d v O a number one run defense in
Speaker 1: the league. Titans, I have to believe it. And Taylor
Speaker 1: does the things as a running back that get me excited,
Speaker 1: which is that hesitation, that vision and just that explosion.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is fun to watch. West was on
Speaker 1: this early. I think he called him like a top
Speaker 1: five ten runner in the NFL quite early last season.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't realize it then, but he he
Speaker 1: was ahead of it. And uh, I think there's it's
Speaker 1: a Titans team that they've historically had success with. Rabels
Speaker 1: never been able to sweep Frank Reich. They got hired
Speaker 1: the same year, and I think Titans coming off two
Speaker 1: big wins, it's a coin flip game, but I think
Speaker 1: the Colts could pull this thing off. You know. The
Speaker 1: thing for me about Tennessee is that last week. I
Speaker 1: love that they came out biggest game of the year,
Speaker 1: fifteen runs, fifteen passes. They were totally balanced. It wasn't
Speaker 1: all about Derrick Henry. You know, this is a weird
Speaker 1: one where they close out their two game series in
Speaker 1: Week eight, which is early for division foes. They held
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor to sixty four rushing yards that first time.
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's game script. They they the Titans
Speaker 1: never trailed in that game. Was the Carson Wentz is
Speaker 1: playing on two broken angles and like it was comical
Speaker 1: that he even was trying to play in that game.
Speaker 1: Know it helps, it's different, but I I look at
Speaker 1: the Titans and I kind of feel like a huge
Speaker 1: X factor for me was if Todd Downing could come
Speaker 1: in and duplicate what Arthur Smith did as a play
Speaker 1: caller on offense. And it just did not look that
Speaker 1: way early on. Except since that awful Week one, they're
Speaker 1: averaging like thirty points a game. They're the team that's grown.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Cults, you're thinking they have.
Speaker 1: But I look at the Cults. The Cults to me
Speaker 1: are like I appreciate the Cults. They're kind of a
Speaker 1: meat and potatoes team their defense, they're your team long
Speaker 1: term now they are absolutely not because I see zero
Speaker 1: exciting X factors that tell me that they're more powerful
Speaker 1: and the Titans and I I I am comfortably locking
Speaker 1: up the Titans, comfortably interesting, digger. So you lock against
Speaker 1: the Titans one week, you lock in favor of them
Speaker 1: the next. Called learning. I'm sure that Graver does not
Speaker 1: feel as confident. I'm okay, I'm not gonna put words
Speaker 1: to his mouth. I'm gonna ask him, Graver, just because
Speaker 1: the Colts have been a tough um test for Mike
Speaker 1: Rabel to solve, right, So you gotta worry. It's a
Speaker 1: division game. Don't let him, don't let him be a
Speaker 1: leading questioner. You come in with your own opinions based
Speaker 1: off of who you are. I got some stats if
Speaker 1: you guys want them. So this is according to the
Speaker 1: New York Times playoff simulator Thing Titans current odds to win.
Speaker 1: The Division one. If they win on Sunday, it jumps
Speaker 1: to it. That's a terrible did two of the teams
Speaker 1: don't exist in that. It's a rap because yeah, it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter if you have swept that head to
Speaker 1: head on top of having a huge lead. At this
Speaker 1: point it is, it's pretty much over here. Lennard called
Speaker 1: it a must win game, so you already in the
Speaker 1: heads of these players. Here's the thing, though, I'm picking
Speaker 1: the Colts in this game out right. I think they are.
Speaker 1: They're a desperate team, they're playing better. Well now, I
Speaker 1: don't feel that come because I'm resepecting the Titans and
Speaker 1: what they've done the last two weeks obviously, but the
Speaker 1: Titans are not a flawless team. The Titans can be
Speaker 1: beat there on the road. They could lose and still
Speaker 1: be okay. Whereas the Colts, they know full well Frank
Speaker 1: reis good as coach. Frank Reig's drilling into their heads
Speaker 1: all week. Hey boys, we lose this, we done. We
Speaker 1: need to protect this house. And I think with Taylor
Speaker 1: and Whens playing at a higher level, if the Titan
Speaker 1: come out of this, put it this way, grave digger,
Speaker 1: the Titans come out of this game and spank the Colts.
Speaker 1: In this setting, I look at the Titans at a
Speaker 1: level that I didn't even take out of them. After
Speaker 1: beating the two big time contenders. I see them as
Speaker 1: maybe not top four, maybe in the there there to
Speaker 1: me become like a top five to seven NFL team.
Speaker 1: That's how much I put into this game and how
Speaker 1: much is against the Cults right now. And Greg said it,
Speaker 1: it is a huge letdown spot after those two wins
Speaker 1: that they're coming off of. And it's also a lot game,
Speaker 1: a lot different type of matchup because the Titans haven't
Speaker 1: really had to deal with stopping running games over the
Speaker 1: last two weeks. It's been the Bills and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: passing all over the field, So I don't know if
Speaker 1: the Titans came Bradon Brandon Smith, the right tackle for
Speaker 1: the Colts, sounds like he'll be back. T Y Hilton
Speaker 1: did return for a limited practice on Thursday. Quentin Nelson
Speaker 1: was back last week, so Wentz is playing. I think
Speaker 1: the Titans are a better team, but I think it's
Speaker 1: hard to sweep a division opponent and this will be
Speaker 1: I just I feel like everyone sees more in the
Speaker 1: Cults than I do, but I they put me to
Speaker 1: sleep a couple of They are your favorite team. Now
Speaker 1: though spun the wheel that segment. You're the one that
Speaker 1: said that segment had some issues. It was your choice
Speaker 1: to spin the wheel. I know it, I understand, but
Speaker 1: I learned a lesson and now I'll say something positive
Speaker 1: about the Titans, because I know Titans fans are always
Speaker 1: in their feelings about things, and I respect your passion, guys,
Speaker 1: but calm down sometimes, Um, Mike Rabel good coach. Let's
Speaker 1: just say it. I know we're always asking questions. It
Speaker 1: feels like entering seasons. It's Mike Rabel really a good coach.
Speaker 1: While the results are there and now the offensive architect
Speaker 1: leaves and there's still a good team. They got a
Speaker 1: good guy, never had a losing record. He's Tomlin like
Speaker 1: I mean, he's only in year four, so wouldn't never insummation.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good lock. Mark, Good luck to
Speaker 1: you on it. Um. It wouldn't stunned me if they want.
Speaker 1: But the cults, I feel like they're gonna come. It
Speaker 1: could be a week because I actually planned to lock
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. But for the showmanship aspect that
Speaker 1: on Twitter when you locked it up, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, it was like, I don't want to make
Speaker 1: you feel uncomfortable with my grasp over that was It
Speaker 1: was like when the Moonwalk was debuted at the Soul
Speaker 1: Train Awards. Um, all right, let's go, Mark, You're up, buddy,
Speaker 1: your second pick will be I'm doing this for a friend.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to unburden a friend of something that's been
Speaker 1: a burden, a green colored burden. I'm gonna take the
Speaker 1: Bengals at the Jets because while Cleveland is battling Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: I want to monitor Suddenly. I must monitor the Bengals
Speaker 1: for the first time in half a decade, because they matter.
Speaker 1: They are the number one team in the a f
Speaker 1: C North. It's no fluke. What they did to the Ravens,
Speaker 1: and it took me a while to get to that
Speaker 1: game was incredibly impressive. The Jets are sitting ducks right now.
Speaker 1: I honestly, for all you want to say about the
Speaker 1: Jets offense. By the way, no it's not right now, Gosh,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the Bengals might be
Speaker 1: like ten points or so, yeah, more, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: and I think they have a chance to say we
Speaker 1: don't care. We're not gonna let the Jets anymwere close
Speaker 1: to that. They just start able to do everything on
Speaker 1: offense that it pleases the eye. Joe Burrow has nine
Speaker 1: touchdown passes the thirty plus yards. Watching Jamaar Chase catch
Speaker 1: that one uh long touchdown that began with here's the catch.
Speaker 1: I'm spinning around. I've got three Ravens within arm lengths
Speaker 1: arms length of me. See all later. I'm out. Like
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a Bengals player like that in a
Speaker 1: long long time. I think this is a great set
Speaker 1: up for Joe Mixon after watching New York's reported run defense,
Speaker 1: um just get destroyed. But it was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a flukey game on Brandon Bold and is lighting
Speaker 1: up your line your like fifth string line. Speaking of
Speaker 1: Brandon Bold, and I feel like he's been playing for
Speaker 1: like fourteen years at this point and still making plays
Speaker 1: for New England. But if if you're if you're the Bengals,
Speaker 1: and you don't go you talk about a letdown game,
Speaker 1: you've got to go absolutely drop a metallic camera on
Speaker 1: the racks. Worried about this game. He thinks that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's where Bengals fans competing. It's crazy. Can
Speaker 1: we talk about the Flacco trade? Yes, second, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm so Flacco gets dealt to the Jets
Speaker 1: to sit for him, and I just kind of assumed, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's gonna start this week. Then there there's reports that no,
Speaker 1: actually Flacco is not going to practice till Friday. Such
Speaker 1: a bad look. Mike White is going to start this week,
Speaker 1: And I just started thinking, like it was the Flacco
Speaker 1: have to be convinced to show up, Like did he
Speaker 1: consider retiring, because I think that's what he asked for.
Speaker 1: He asked for a couple more days to make the move.
Speaker 1: It's a short moves. He's an older guy. He was
Speaker 1: with it like he might not want to play, and
Speaker 1: because didn't they trade him to play and he's not
Speaker 1: playing this week. Mike White had a couple of moments
Speaker 1: actually last week where he didn't look terrible. But it's
Speaker 1: a tough situation. He's a new offense. It's not he's
Speaker 1: not going into last year's offense. That he said like
Speaker 1: it was like Garret, you know, he's had experience in
Speaker 1: a similar type of which the building and the team.
Speaker 1: But it's a weird move, but it was always weird.
Speaker 1: The Jets played that poorly, of course they always do
Speaker 1: by having no experience on the roster behind Zack Wilson.
Speaker 1: Uh So the fact that you as soon as Zack
Speaker 1: Wilson gets hurt and you go and scramble and trade
Speaker 1: for the guy you had last year, it's just a
Speaker 1: bad look. It shows that you weren't prepared. It didn't
Speaker 1: have the foresight that even all the beat writers and
Speaker 1: uh you know, jabronies like us had. So it is
Speaker 1: what it is. He will play probably, and the Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson I don't know if we even talked about on
Speaker 1: the show. He's out. It looks like two to four
Speaker 1: weeks with this PCL. He wasn't terrible before he got injured.
Speaker 1: He did, he had a couple of night. They're playing
Speaker 1: on Thursday night next week the Jets, unfortunately, so that
Speaker 1: means Wilson's definitely out for that game. So it's either
Speaker 1: White or Mark game. This has this has a thirty
Speaker 1: to six final written all over it. We shall see.
Speaker 1: I do have one idea though, the Jets two things
Speaker 1: that they don't have yet an interception or a point
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and um, I have an idea here.
Speaker 1: Play this. This is from an apologies to Catalan and Lofton.
Speaker 1: I kind of got after him on Sunday. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: bad job not mentioning the whole bell check running up
Speaker 1: the score. But you know you just were in the
Speaker 1: eye of a tornado. So sorry guys for getting after
Speaker 1: you on Sunday night. If you're listening, Um, but play
Speaker 1: Lofton and Catalan. In conversation late in the first quarter
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Robert Sale told us he made a couple
Speaker 1: of subtle changes to try to jump start the offense.
Speaker 1: One of them. Every day at Jets practice, there's a
Speaker 1: four play competitive period, the first team offense against the
Speaker 1: first team defense. If they tie each winning two, they
Speaker 1: do a basketball shootout to determine the winner. But in
Speaker 1: any event, that's usually done at about in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: This week it was done closer to one o'clock, which
Speaker 1: is closer to the start of a game. They were
Speaker 1: hoping that little things like that would help to get
Speaker 1: them going on the quarter of games. So here's my idea.
Speaker 1: We move that up to noon, so you do the
Speaker 1: basketball shootout at noon, and then by the time that happens,
Speaker 1: their internal clock will be one hour later for kickoff,
Speaker 1: which is usually when they start playing better noon, not
Speaker 1: one for the competitive basketball shootout. Yeah, talk about eyes
Speaker 1: on the prize. This is what's happening behind closed doors
Speaker 1: in Flora Park. Alright, Uh, okay, Mark, so you got
Speaker 1: the Jets there, that's okay, And Mark was a class act.
Speaker 1: He approached me about it before we came on. And
Speaker 1: I am on a break from the Jets, so that
Speaker 1: is fine, okay, I am up now on and it's
Speaker 1: really pretty rough right now. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: good games left to pick. I will check in on
Speaker 1: the Panthers and Falcons here. Uh, we know where Carolina is.
Speaker 1: They are in the tank. A report came out early
Speaker 1: in the week that the Panthers were in the mix
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson like an hour after the game, right
Speaker 1: they were? They were now. I think the wording in
Speaker 1: the ESPN report is they were evaluating their search for
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback after they had benched Sam Donald uh
Speaker 1: in the loss to the Giants. And then another report
Speaker 1: I think maybe it was rap sheet Um connected them
Speaker 1: directly to Watson. But then a report came out yesterday,
Speaker 1: uh Wednesday that the Panthers were not in on Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what's going on there. But I think
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense because what Deshaun Watson. Forget
Speaker 1: about all the you know, ugliness around the situation. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna save their season anyway. It's not like whoever
Speaker 1: gets Deshaun Watson, if he has moved before Monday or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, is gonna slot into the starting lineup.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make everyone there miserable, from the coach to
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. Is what would happen, which is why
Speaker 1: I still don't think it will happen. And maybe he
Speaker 1: does go to the Panthers, but maybe David Tepper, as
Speaker 1: much as he wants to Shaun Watson, potentially is like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even make sense. Um, now, you have to
Speaker 1: play the games. And you know that that Sam Donald
Speaker 1: because if their backup quarterback situation is going to continue
Speaker 1: to be the starter for the time being. Uh So
Speaker 1: that's where they are. And you got a Falcons team
Speaker 1: in Atlanta that has been frisky on offense. Uh Like,
Speaker 1: I'll give him that, and I think they're gonna score
Speaker 1: points in this game. But I also think even against
Speaker 1: the Dolphins that win over the Dolphins they got the
Speaker 1: field goal to end Greg that this is a team
Speaker 1: that all season for the rest so far to this point,
Speaker 1: and I think for the rest of the year they'll
Speaker 1: score some points. They can get ahead, but the defense
Speaker 1: is always begging to give away games, and I could
Speaker 1: see that happening even here. If Carolina could square even
Speaker 1: against the Jets, there was no reason away exactly, but
Speaker 1: they keep playing these really uh week offenses for the
Speaker 1: most part that they can get away with it, and
Speaker 1: this is another week they could have a winning record
Speaker 1: after this week. There's certainly a winnable game for for Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I I just don't know what happened to Carolina on
Speaker 1: offense other than Sam Donald. I guess if we want
Speaker 1: to put everything on him, it seems crazy because they're
Speaker 1: twenty nine right now in e p A like they
Speaker 1: are one of the worst offenses in the league. It's
Speaker 1: not just that they're struggling, they're there. They're almost unplayable.
Speaker 1: This should be a matchup where seam Donald doesn't look
Speaker 1: uh terrible. But on the other side, you got some
Speaker 1: guys who are just looking amazing. I mean, Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: is that guy. Remember the first couple of weeks We're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Kyle pitt Where where is the guy that's gonna change
Speaker 1: change the face of the world. Well, here he is. Here,
Speaker 1: he's he was making every type of catch in that
Speaker 1: that was as good a game from a rookie tight
Speaker 1: end that's probably ever you know that's been played. Because
Speaker 1: he couldn't do anything more than he did every type
Speaker 1: of play that you would want someone to make like
Speaker 1: he made it. If you were asking me, who would
Speaker 1: you take for the rest of your career, Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: or Jamaar Chase, it's still a question. That's the guys
Speaker 1: who went four or five. I don't think that's a slamdunk.
Speaker 1: That's how good he is. To your point, if you
Speaker 1: watch that game. The end of that game, so there's
Speaker 1: two big completions from Ryan too Pitts and get him
Speaker 1: in field goal range and then coo H's a kick
Speaker 1: Falcons be Dolphins on the play that really put them
Speaker 1: in field goal rangey yard or Pitts lines up on
Speaker 1: the outside against Xavien how Ward and all pro ball
Speaker 1: hawk who regularly shuts dudes down, and he beat him
Speaker 1: by a step and then just one with his size
Speaker 1: and athleticism and then just won the ball and won
Speaker 1: the game. Like he's doing stuff that Darren Waller, when
Speaker 1: Darren Waller is locked in, can do that. Um. But
Speaker 1: that's it to me when you talk about tight ends, well,
Speaker 1: it's like he's a powerful enough type of presence where
Speaker 1: no matter what happens to the Falcons Falcons this season,
Speaker 1: you look back and say, Kyle Pitts is something you
Speaker 1: build around for forever here and there are other questions there,
Speaker 1: but I mean, their rebuild right now, and I never
Speaker 1: would have thought this a couple of weeks ago looks
Speaker 1: a little more promising than Carolina's. It's not just Sam
Speaker 1: Donald though, because their offensive line has been bad and
Speaker 1: they have the most wide receiver drops since Week four.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're that group of wide receivers has killed Dona.
Speaker 1: They get Jack Thompson back this week, and they get
Speaker 1: Stephon Gilmore this week, which I'm very intrigued. I kind
Speaker 1: of wish I made this on your radar. I'm into
Speaker 1: the Falcons, and I want to see Gilmore and how
Speaker 1: he by all accounts in New England, he could have
Speaker 1: played Week one and that he absolutely was sitting out
Speaker 1: and they knew that, and that's partly why they traded him,
Speaker 1: because they just like, I can't deal with this. I
Speaker 1: want to see him matching up against Kyle Pitts. That
Speaker 1: would be the matchup Kyle Pitts. You can call him
Speaker 1: a tight end. He's basically he is a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: He's just a receiver, and he could be one of
Speaker 1: the best wide receivers in the league. It's not just
Speaker 1: tight end Kish Sunday not on a improving Patriots scene
Speaker 1: right now? What Uh? Sometimes it's just like, let's we're
Speaker 1: going separate ways. How about just make him play? How
Speaker 1: about just make him play or give him like a
Speaker 1: couple of million dollars because he's gonna make your team better.
Speaker 1: Money does not solve everything. Greg, I know that that's
Speaker 1: counter to your thing. I think in this case, it
Speaker 1: was a percent about money that there was a lot
Speaker 1: of respect. Say in this situation last summer, remember that
Speaker 1: was another guy whod been with the team for while
Speaker 1: as a star, and he was unhappy with this contract,
Speaker 1: and the Charger said, hey, you know what, we respect you.
Speaker 1: You've done a lot for organization. Let's play ball. We're
Speaker 1: gonna of you some guaranteed money. We don't have to
Speaker 1: give you. We're gonna move some things around. How about
Speaker 1: we get on the field and we do this together.
Speaker 1: And he did. But that's not how the Patriots and
Speaker 1: Bill Bill check out. Speaking of which Melvin Ingram wants
Speaker 1: out of Pittsburgh, they never play for the Steelers again.
Speaker 1: And that's just which we were saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is just a total Steeler. It's just gonna we
Speaker 1: had a couple of great weeks and I don't know
Speaker 1: what's happening. All right, I have to take one more game.
Speaker 1: These are nut that Panthers want to do. We'll see,
Speaker 1: all right. Let me let's toss the break and I
Speaker 1: got you one when we come back. All right, we're back. Uh,
Speaker 1: you might as well check in on the other bad No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Niners at Bears will
Speaker 1: grab this is pretty rough. These are this is some
Speaker 1: rough pickens right now. Uh, forty Niners at Bears. I
Speaker 1: want to see the last Jimmy Garoppolo start in the
Speaker 1: history of the fort. So this gives me a chance
Speaker 1: to do that. I would imagine Trey Land, Uh, if
Speaker 1: he can get healthy, is at some point going to
Speaker 1: get in there. And I think it was Peter King
Speaker 1: did a interview that I read an article that was
Speaker 1: based off the interview, and I like King. I like King.
Speaker 1: I think he's uh, he has good insight of things.
Speaker 1: He's been out in Monday Morning Quarterback in her piece. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean when Peter King is a guy, he's one
Speaker 1: of those guys that it's been around for so long
Speaker 1: that you can kind of take him for granted. But
Speaker 1: then when he's gone, well, miss Peter King. That's my take. Um,
Speaker 1: all that said, I don't know why I'm talking about
Speaker 1: Peter King so much, Right, you're upset about being underrated.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope he doesn't here this. He's like,
Speaker 1: what am I I'm saying? It was a legend. You're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna miss him when he's gone. Um, Peter
Speaker 1: King said that, why would have you gone? Though? Well,
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be around. He's been doing this
Speaker 1: for like or forty years. Not well, not life's fragile,
Speaker 1: although certainly it is It's just I think he's in
Speaker 1: a man. He's a man in his sixties. Now, we
Speaker 1: traveled very far banks enough money if he wants to
Speaker 1: just start traveling around and tasting those back the money
Speaker 1: where he can do it, the coffee nerdness anyway, that
Speaker 1: it gets you that mark if nothing else. I I
Speaker 1: just said, I can't be one materialistic all the time.
Speaker 1: There are other things happening. Peter King said in this
Speaker 1: interview that I read an article based on the interview
Speaker 1: that he was all about where Kyle Shanahan was coming
Speaker 1: down on this Trey Lance situation. Don't play him. It's
Speaker 1: not worth trying to save this season if it's going
Speaker 1: to mess up the kids development. I guess, I guess
Speaker 1: I buy in on all that. It makes sense, but
Speaker 1: at a certain point, uh, you're gonna have to turn
Speaker 1: to the kid if Grappolo doesn't show improve And I
Speaker 1: thought he was so bad on Sunday night, and yes,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah the weather and all that, but it's
Speaker 1: at a certain point you can't ignore it anymore that
Speaker 1: he's a detriment to your offense. And I think when
Speaker 1: I was thinking about, like kind of more broadly about
Speaker 1: Shanahan because he's catching a lot of heat now and
Speaker 1: I think maybe a little too much heat, because I
Speaker 1: think what people don't typically realizes that with these quote
Speaker 1: unquote quarterback whis or these offensive geniuses that everyone falls
Speaker 1: in love with, it only works at the quarterbacks. Good
Speaker 1: like you don't look look at Shaunaka is a perfect example.
Speaker 1: When GoF came into the league, when was playing at
Speaker 1: a high level, he was a genius. Then the last
Speaker 1: couple of years, all of a sudden, is mcveighs sttle genius.
Speaker 1: Now he went and got a better quarterback. He's a
Speaker 1: genius again, Like I think Kyle Shannon will resume being
Speaker 1: a genius as soon as he can get a quarterback
Speaker 1: that can run an offense effectively. And until that happens,
Speaker 1: he's trapped in a twilight zone and the team will
Speaker 1: continue to lose more than the win and be continue
Speaker 1: to be disappointing, and he will continue to be a
Speaker 1: subject of talk. Is he overrated? No, he's not overrated.
Speaker 1: All offensive geniuses are overrated because it really goes back
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Yeah. I think like the whole cub
Speaker 1: whisper thing is typically the result of lack of information
Speaker 1: we don't understand, like how they communicate what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But there's no question that Shanahan before this season would
Speaker 1: have been looked at someone who had to deal with
Speaker 1: a lot of backup quarterbacks, mid level hype quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: would maximize them. That's not been the case this year
Speaker 1: at all. And I thought that his comments after Week
Speaker 1: seven were and you know, a couple of writers mentioned
Speaker 1: this too, that he seemed humbled. It was a different
Speaker 1: version of Shanahan where he wasn't the genius in terms
Speaker 1: of the product we're seeing week to week. And they
Speaker 1: asked him about Lance and he said, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair to him, and I don't think it's right
Speaker 1: for our team to put him in the lineup right now.
Speaker 1: And I think it tells me that the environment in
Speaker 1: San Francisco is not what it's been in the past
Speaker 1: in terms of like the dominant ground game, the offensive
Speaker 1: line has not been totally supreme. You've got guys like
Speaker 1: Brandon Auk who are one of the more mysterious, uh notable,
Speaker 1: strange not being used players in the league right now.
Speaker 1: And I guess you could also look at justin fields
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, if you put a young quarterback into
Speaker 1: a bad situation, they are going to struggle. He struggled
Speaker 1: mightily a week ago. And the four worst quarterback rankings
Speaker 1: pastor ratings in the league right now are all rookies.
Speaker 1: They they're not that talented. There's this idea that the
Speaker 1: forty niners are really talented. But when you take Trent
Speaker 1: Williams who missed that game Sunday night and it sounds
Speaker 1: like you might miss another, and you take George Kittle
Speaker 1: out and he will be on i RM for one
Speaker 1: more week, They're not that talented. There's like they're trying
Speaker 1: to convince themselves into Trent Shefield in the preseason. Where
Speaker 1: where did that go? They're not that talented at running
Speaker 1: back either. I'm surprised to see a Shanahan quarterback. Even
Speaker 1: Jimmy G struggled this much because this is the worst
Speaker 1: version of Jimmy G. It got me thinking how not
Speaker 1: all good trades and not our good values are good
Speaker 1: for you. Because Shanahan's entire tenure in San Francisco has
Speaker 1: been shaped by taking Jimmy Garoppolo for a mid second
Speaker 1: round pick because the value was good. I don't think
Speaker 1: they really wanted Jimmy Garoppolo. I know that in a
Speaker 1: way because they didn't call about Jimmy Garoppolo. They called
Speaker 1: the Patriots about Tom Brady. Is Tom Brady available? No,
Speaker 1: you can have Jimmy g For a late second, they
Speaker 1: didn't have quarterback. They're just like, well, this isn't really
Speaker 1: like a permanent thing. But it's like, why don't we
Speaker 1: just take him? But then they and here we are though,
Speaker 1: four or five years later, and because of a lot
Speaker 1: of things that happened, it's like they still have him.
Speaker 1: And I never have felt that he's been a perfect fit.
Speaker 1: I've never felt that Kyle Shanahan's felt that he's a
Speaker 1: perfect fit. And they it's taken him a long way
Speaker 1: to like get out of it. Because the one year
Speaker 1: where they were they were healthy and they had him,
Speaker 1: they go to the super view, they were mesmerized by
Speaker 1: him because he had those six games when they have
Speaker 1: post trade where we all thought, wait a minute, they
Speaker 1: have it was better than what they had. So then
Speaker 1: they paid not take them. They paid him a ton
Speaker 1: of money. And I also think because someone could come
Speaker 1: back on what I said to kick off this conversation, said, well,
Speaker 1: well he had they did thrive with Jimmy G once one.
Speaker 1: This is not the same Jimmy G anymore. I think
Speaker 1: the injuries of really taking a toll on Garoppolo uh
Speaker 1: all over his body, and I just think he's a
Speaker 1: marginalized player of what he used to be. And I
Speaker 1: think you just got a certain point make a move
Speaker 1: because you're right and justin Fields on the other side,
Speaker 1: just to touch on the Bears real quick, they're in
Speaker 1: the same situation where it's it seems like it's one
Speaker 1: step forward, two steps back with a rookie quarterback. But
Speaker 1: I just feel like we have reached the point where
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is the in case of emergency break glass situation.
Speaker 1: Not for Kyle Shanahan's job security, but for this season.
Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, his reputation right now is like,
Speaker 1: how do I get back to where I was? I
Speaker 1: need some fresh blood in here, and maybe it works out,
Speaker 1: but it is a risk, it's a gamble if you
Speaker 1: don't think he's ready. This NFC Wildcard race is quite
Speaker 1: open at the back end, so both of these teams
Speaker 1: are certainly not giving up on being part of that race.
Speaker 1: This is a big game for them. San Francisco is
Speaker 1: a heavy favorite on the road. I'm kind of past
Speaker 1: the point of San Francisco being a heavy favorite against anyone.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bears they did beat the Raiders. They
Speaker 1: they were competitive there with the Bengals, like they've they've once.
Speaker 1: They were the only team that won easily. I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not like penciling in San Francisco turning this around,
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would be there after watching. But
Speaker 1: there's no Cleil mac and it's possible that Chris Tabor
Speaker 1: is the head coach, their special teams coordinator if Naggy
Speaker 1: doesn't get through the COVID stuff. All right, we have
Speaker 1: two more picks, Mark, what's your third game? Well, let
Speaker 1: me look here. This is the offerings are becoming less
Speaker 1: pleasant by the minute. But I'm gonna go because I
Speaker 1: have to do for like the eighth week in a row,
Speaker 1: I have to watch Titty Teddy Bridgewater. Which it's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Washington at Denver. He just called the
Speaker 1: Titty's well I called I did not intend to well,
Speaker 1: I didn't. That's not That's a great Halloween costume, by
Speaker 1: the way. You just you Teddy's costume then just like
Speaker 1: a busty teddy Bridgewater. I did not call it that though,
Speaker 1: just when it gets put out in the individual you
Speaker 1: should wear that anybody. Um, I got for the first
Speaker 1: time in a long time. Um, we live in this
Speaker 1: this nice little town and out in l a Uh
Speaker 1: and uh there's like an adult a Halloween party that
Speaker 1: my wife got invited to Saturday night. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know I have to come up with the costume and
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing. Um, I don't know when's the
Speaker 1: last time you guys have done that or have done
Speaker 1: it along? For me, it's been I don't think as
Speaker 1: an adum sup in a Halloween costume and I and
Speaker 1: I would go and I dress as like you, like
Speaker 1: the hardy boys and like a flannel. Eric is killing
Speaker 1: me because I didn't show up to our office dressed
Speaker 1: in the Halloween costume. But like you're like the only person.
Speaker 1: It was like three people that I've seen walking around
Speaker 1: in costumes and it's mostly your delightful crowd back there.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to show up in like a
Speaker 1: ghost out fit or something. Why are you so mad?
Speaker 1: Because because when I walked into the studio today, the
Speaker 1: first thing she said was like yuck looking at me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's an hr by the way,
Speaker 1: I know, but you don't tell I understand that I'm
Speaker 1: a guy, so you can say whatever you want to me,
Speaker 1: but you don't tell another human being yuck at that.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't a about you. That's what you said
Speaker 1: after the effect. But that's not my I wasn't my experience.
Speaker 1: It's not like we turned and looked at you and
Speaker 1: we're like, it wasn't a we thing. It was you.
Speaker 1: I don't know who we is. What did you dress
Speaker 1: up as Brooks Brothers because that's what you look like.
Speaker 1: You just went to the outlet Erica is refashioning. Uh
Speaker 1: the what happened there? Anyway? I am. I'm checking Amazon
Speaker 1: right now because I'm going to be Vincent Vega when
Speaker 1: he had to get rid of his clothes and I
Speaker 1: put on the U S Santa Cruz banana slug T
Speaker 1: shirt with the blue shorts. Um, but wait, will she
Speaker 1: be Samuel Jackson or I don't think that would be smart. Um,
Speaker 1: So he's gonna stay away from the Samuel Jackson. Uh, Marcel,
Speaker 1: what was what was Jackson's character? And that was Vincent
Speaker 1: Vega and uh, I don't know why I'm not Bana. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the Santa Cruz Banana slug t shirt is scheduled to
Speaker 1: arrive Saturday at seven pm. So that's right on the nose.
Speaker 1: So you know, let's hope that works out. That's the
Speaker 1: Jets with their little basketball tournament right there. Yes, Mark's
Speaker 1: trying to get uh, you know, your poor wife like
Speaker 1: put on social media like I'm just saying they were
Speaker 1: paired together in the film. But that that I understand.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's where were we Washington at Denver. I'm
Speaker 1: picking this never never was in a Halloween costume once
Speaker 1: in his whole life. That's my prediction. You were born
Speaker 1: at age thirty two, so you missed the childhood. I
Speaker 1: was in Halloween costumes up until the same age as
Speaker 1: everyone as a child, and I did go to multiple
Speaker 1: whatever thirteen or fourteen. What's one thing. There's that one
Speaker 1: year where you were like the people giving you the
Speaker 1: candy start looking at you side eye, being like, come on,
Speaker 1: you're a little too old. But I went you dressed
Speaker 1: up as a as a youth. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I did Abraham Lincoln in New York I grew the
Speaker 1: beard for it. Um, you know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I went to I went to some in my twenties
Speaker 1: in New York. I think I grew a beard for
Speaker 1: the Red Sox two thousand for playoff run, and then
Speaker 1: I shaved it down to the Abraham Lincoln and that
Speaker 1: was an outfit, so I did. Lincoln was the tallest president, right,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's kind of funny when a little
Speaker 1: short how tall? How tall would that make him? I
Speaker 1: think he was which in eighteen sixties or whatever, it
Speaker 1: was a giant straight up. Jules Winfield was the name
Speaker 1: of Samuel Jackson's character. I don't think people have changed
Speaker 1: that much. There were six ft Broncos and football team
Speaker 1: fans are like talk about have you ever been to
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field Fenway Park? The size of those seats. I
Speaker 1: guess Americans have gotten broad. I think they've gotten broad,
Speaker 1: but I think they've gotten processed food from age four on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, the entire the entire human population has gotten taller.
Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm just saying that there were It
Speaker 1: wasn't like he was this um at six ft four,
Speaker 1: six ft five. No one had seen that before, but
Speaker 1: it was you have to us for height inflation. Dan's right,
Speaker 1: it was different. I like the show when Greg starts
Speaker 1: a green with Dan on something that I said, just
Speaker 1: as to your about the truth. Uh, let's say, all right,
Speaker 1: abe Lincoln was six four, George Washington was six too.
Speaker 1: That's a nice size as well. That's also from ancient
Speaker 1: And then let's just say you have a tall yeah,
Speaker 1: tall people. Trump was six three. I mean so yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, oh people, men in their six foot region
Speaker 1: have been around for hundreds you know, get advantages like
Speaker 1: you can basically choose who's going to be like the
Speaker 1: CEO or whatever, just based on height and like facial structure.
Speaker 1: Biden is Joe Biden height. It's it's prejudice against the
Speaker 1: little men like me, the last like short president. That's
Speaker 1: you got to go back a little bit. Clinton is
Speaker 1: not a tall guy. Is hel Denver? And Washington what
Speaker 1: a game. I honestly came out of watching the Washington
Speaker 1: Green Bay game thinking that Washington's offense, you know that
Speaker 1: all the red zone meltdowns were totally fun to watch.
Speaker 1: And Taylor Heineke like the it's the mobility and he's
Speaker 1: just completely unconcerned with just whipping the ball down field.
Speaker 1: I like this something. I like this idea of them,
Speaker 1: you know, battling tall presidents here a bunch of tall
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. But uh, the Broncos were just a hot
Speaker 1: mess and everything that you hired Vic Fongio for does
Speaker 1: not make any sense right now. They're, what the highest
Speaker 1: paid defense playing like the fifth worst unit in football.
Speaker 1: Have a good time with that. People from Denver. They
Speaker 1: are there twenty six in d v O A, and
Speaker 1: they've played easiest schedule, so they've played pretty That's where
Speaker 1: the three and o start came from, right but that
Speaker 1: they they But even since then, it's not like every
Speaker 1: week it's been a juggernaut. It's been the Browns with
Speaker 1: case Keenum and I know only seventeen points went on
Speaker 1: the board there, but they could not get a stop.
Speaker 1: I mean they they basically were steam rolled by case Keenum.
Speaker 1: They were steam rolled by the Raiders, they were pretty
Speaker 1: steamrolled by the Steelers. It's crazy how disappointing they've been
Speaker 1: on defense. This is kind of their last stand. I
Speaker 1: think if you lose to Washington at home, to fall
Speaker 1: to three and five, it just starts to feel very hopeless,
Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure out why are they
Speaker 1: so bad? They have no pass rush, but their linebackers
Speaker 1: have been decimated by injury. Where they're trading for Kenny
Speaker 1: Young from the Rams. They've been down a fifth and
Speaker 1: sixth linebackers, And it's become really cool to say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: off ball linebackers don't really matter. We're not gonna spend
Speaker 1: any resources. Watch the Jets lately, Watch the Broncos lately,
Speaker 1: watch the Eagles lately. Like those teams stink at that
Speaker 1: position and they're rather not. They're getting flamed by running
Speaker 1: backs and tight ends who just can pick up twelve
Speaker 1: yards every play if if they want. It's it's sad. Alright, Greg,
Speaker 1: close out the draft. I will close out the draft,
Speaker 1: and then we got some more games to get to.
Speaker 1: But apologies to the Washington Broncos. I'll take the Bills
Speaker 1: Dolphins early. You should know, Greg, by the way that
Speaker 1: Benjamin Harrison twenty third President, Martin van Buren, the eighth president.
Speaker 1: Five six. There we go, shortest President James Madison. I
Speaker 1: mean people didn't even some sort of a duel with someone.
Speaker 1: I mean, we literally had a disabled president and no
Speaker 1: one knew, so you know they were able to hide things.
Speaker 1: There wasn't you know what It wasn't as much you
Speaker 1: refer of course the ad R. Yes, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's a different different times in a wheelchair they
Speaker 1: kept it away from We are not certain like half
Speaker 1: of them even existed. There's a lot of didn't exist.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, like you don't think Benjamin Harrison existed.
Speaker 1: I am sure. I'm not saying all of them this
Speaker 1: all right here, we some president exists. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that all presidents didn't exist, just some that's that's possible.
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. All right, go ahead, this is a big game.
Speaker 1: I know that the Bills are thirteen and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites. I am interested in this Dolphins team just
Speaker 1: because they're at an inflection point before this trade deadline.
Speaker 1: If they get blown out by the Bill. Sean McDermott's
Speaker 1: absolutely owned Brian Flores. They've won five straight games. The
Speaker 1: the average margin of victories outrageous. They're averaging way over
Speaker 1: thirty points. So this is a problem going back to
Speaker 1: even if they get blown out right before the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: you just you just wonder what's gonna happen. I've been
Speaker 1: really impressed by to a as like a man, as is,
Speaker 1: like the way that he's handled this him answering those
Speaker 1: questions this week. I was impressed by like he's handled
Speaker 1: this situation with a lot more class and grace than
Speaker 1: the organization he plays for. And he's improving. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be like a great quarterback, but for
Speaker 1: a guy that's only started like six more games than
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I do think he takes in an inordinate
Speaker 1: amount of criticism for a guy who looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: He's limited athletically, he has a lower ceiling than you
Speaker 1: would like at a top five pick, but he's playing
Speaker 1: pretty well. I think that's in highly on the organization
Speaker 1: though too, just the way and you may agree or
Speaker 1: disagree with how they handle it last year with Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: because they were trying to make the playoffs, but by
Speaker 1: taking him in and out of the lineup, and then
Speaker 1: as soon as this season rolls around, we keep hearing
Speaker 1: about the Shawn Watson. Of course we're going to view
Speaker 1: him as a guy that's on, you know, the hot
Speaker 1: seed before he deserves to be that just the way
Speaker 1: it's been that's on the organization. Do you think also,
Speaker 1: because I think he's he is growing, but that's not
Speaker 1: enough today from quarterbacks, like you need these plays, these
Speaker 1: wow plays, these physical moments that Kyler Murray gives you,
Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert gives you that, Patrick Mahomes gives you
Speaker 1: and you don't to H. But do you need that?
Speaker 1: I do think you. I think one actually like young quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: especially when the organization is saying, hey, we have a
Speaker 1: continuous wandering eye. Other mac Jones is not going to
Speaker 1: give you those plays, but he's showing you more and
Speaker 1: the Patriots feel good about that pig. Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm saying I'm not saying it's everyone, but you're
Speaker 1: knowing to a kind of just like should be Like
Speaker 1: that's what you think perfect world to H was gonna
Speaker 1: be like a Drew Breese ish quarterback. That's who he
Speaker 1: was compared to. And you think about Breeze as a
Speaker 1: young player bench for Doug Flutie. His ownership hated him,
Speaker 1: you know, like a guy who because he was short
Speaker 1: and because he didn't have a big arm, and because
Speaker 1: his advantages took a little while to show up and
Speaker 1: he had good moments early too, better better than to
Speaker 1: A start, Like you just don't totally see it. So
Speaker 1: I do think to A could be better as like
Speaker 1: a four or five year veteran than he is right now.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. And he he has played better
Speaker 1: in these last two weeks. He Yeah, he has these
Speaker 1: bad turnovers that kind of mar his games. But again,
Speaker 1: to the point he's barely played at the NFL. Still,
Speaker 1: you gotta give him the rope to understand that stuff.
Speaker 1: He could work through and hopefully get out of that funk.
Speaker 1: He might not ever, he might always be that mistake
Speaker 1: prone guy. But I've I feel like you've seen enough
Speaker 1: Uh in his limited play to to continue to investigate
Speaker 1: him as your quarterback when the alternative in the widely
Speaker 1: you know, speculated situation here is that you would dump
Speaker 1: to A and bring in this guy that has all
Speaker 1: sorts of hideous allegations around him. It's like, is that
Speaker 1: is a movie you really want to make right now now?
Speaker 1: To ah if doing in the off season. That's what
Speaker 1: I've been saying is, don't think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I still feel like all the reporting I still feel
Speaker 1: like this is gonna end up not happening before the deadline,
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll have to do an emergency pot
Speaker 1: if it does. But um, potentially, But I just think like,
Speaker 1: you gotta let this kid finish the season. And if
Speaker 1: that means you miss out on Deshaun Watson, well that's
Speaker 1: the way it is. And guess what, it's probably the
Speaker 1: best thing you could do morally anyway. So I think
Speaker 1: this is a tough spot though, because he's gone against
Speaker 1: two of the worst defenses in the league that he
Speaker 1: looked pretty good against and still made some big mistake.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta play this cohesive Bills team. He's a
Speaker 1: little angry. He's coming off of Bye who they were
Speaker 1: embarrassed defensively late in that game because they're just not
Speaker 1: used to giving up drives like they did. Like, this
Speaker 1: is a tough spot. And the Dolphins defense is equally
Speaker 1: or worse, you know, um struggling compared to their offense,
Speaker 1: Like third down regression has hit them. Art if they
Speaker 1: lose my third year forty, you could just see the
Speaker 1: owner doing something. And also there have been there aren't
Speaker 1: many in division matchups that have been more uneven than
Speaker 1: Buffalo in Miami. I mean, they wiped them out. They've
Speaker 1: wiped them out under Sean like McDermott's like entire reign there,
Speaker 1: And I don't trust a team more in the NFL
Speaker 1: right now to bounce back from bad loss by week
Speaker 1: in this situation, the bum it's fair to point out
Speaker 1: these two guys who are hired around the same time.
Speaker 1: You know, McDermott was a couple of years earlier, but
Speaker 1: their defensive coaches and Brian Flores' defense is terrible right now,
Speaker 1: and his history of hiring coaches who he's cycled through
Speaker 1: has not been great, whereas McDermott seems like he has
Speaker 1: a very cohesive group who loves working there. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we'll finish out Week eight.
Speaker 1: All right, let's quickly hit these last three games. We
Speaker 1: have the Philadelphia Eagles traveling to Ford Field to face
Speaker 1: the lines the Eagles. You know, it is a great,
Speaker 1: a great stat and we've kind of mentioned it at
Speaker 1: times on this show, how the Eagles offense does not
Speaker 1: pass the I test when you actually watched these games
Speaker 1: in a lot of situations, Uh, they are getting kind
Speaker 1: of getting beat up badly, and then they have some
Speaker 1: late scores to make it look better. This from I
Speaker 1: was gonna say Road a World, but it's NBC Sports Edge.
Speaker 1: But I actually, when I sent in this little nug
Speaker 1: within my power rankings this week, I purposely put Road
Speaker 1: to World and guess what the editors did that They
Speaker 1: change it to NBC Sports Age. Anyway, Jalen Hurts has
Speaker 1: scored forty three point four percent of his fantasy points
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of this season. And that's not
Speaker 1: like wow, when they've been, you know, winning dramatically. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of it's been your down twenty eight to
Speaker 1: seven in the fourth quarter and you end up losing
Speaker 1: seven to twenty one or something. So I'm not totally
Speaker 1: into this experience with Hurts right now. And I'll say
Speaker 1: this as well. So they trade Flacco, they get Siriani,
Speaker 1: gets um Gardner Minshew. He's talking him up this week
Speaker 1: that he's a guy that they trust to move up
Speaker 1: to the number two. And it just it would not
Speaker 1: be entirely shocking if Minshew gets playing time this year
Speaker 1: to me Um, because they might want to juice the
Speaker 1: offense a little bit when the game stills in hand
Speaker 1: and uh, I feel like Hurts is on um, you know,
Speaker 1: he he could be in trouble here. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: If they lose to the Lions, I think that change
Speaker 1: could happen sooner than than you would expect. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they're like our friend of the show, bow Wolf.
Speaker 1: I believe mentioned that he thought the same thing that
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Minshew at some point. That trade seems
Speaker 1: strange when they made it, but it starts to make
Speaker 1: a lot more sense. And they've trailed the Raiders Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Dallas each each of those guys by nineteen
Speaker 1: or more points in games before and some of them
Speaker 1: storming be in Carolina, the one to Gage now fair
Speaker 1: to be fair, he had he played great in a
Speaker 1: comeback win there, but that even that game they were
Speaker 1: down big. I yeah, I mean it's a it's a
Speaker 1: season long evaluation. But their defense has been a total mess.
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, you know, came out this week and he
Speaker 1: openly based openly questioned like new coordinator Jonathan Gannon's schemes,
Speaker 1: saying it's not been aggressive, and it hasn't been. They
Speaker 1: allowed Derek Cardix complete his throws the last four winning
Speaker 1: quarterbacks against him of complete completed eight plus. That's not
Speaker 1: that to me was one of the bigger stories of
Speaker 1: the week that slipped under the radar because the Eagles
Speaker 1: are no longer an interesting team. Cox, Fletcher Cox flamed
Speaker 1: his coaches immediately after the game. I mean he's straight
Speaker 1: up flamed them. And that is a tenure veteran, one
Speaker 1: of the great Eagles in their franchise history, who's won
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. And some of these guys who were around
Speaker 1: when they won the Super Bowl are thinking Jason Kelsey
Speaker 1: almost retired, thinking we came back for this. It seems
Speaker 1: like some bad vibes with the coaching staff and the
Speaker 1: players right now. And if they somehow lost to the Lions.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think based on what you
Speaker 1: just explained, Um, do you think that if the head
Speaker 1: cock coach got in front of the team and started
Speaker 1: making a a strained flower we're a metaphor, that it
Speaker 1: would go over well play it, Ricky, No, No, you
Speaker 1: know the results aren't there right now. But what's going
Speaker 1: on here is is that there's growth under the soil.
Speaker 1: I put a picture of a flower up right, and
Speaker 1: that it's and it's coming through the ground and the
Speaker 1: roots are growing out, and the roots and the roots
Speaker 1: are continue to grow, and everybody wants to see results. Shoot,
Speaker 1: we want nobody wants to see results more than us, right,
Speaker 1: we want to see results too. But it's really important
Speaker 1: that that the foundation is being built and that the
Speaker 1: roots are growing out. And the only way the roots
Speaker 1: grow out every single day and they grow stronger and
Speaker 1: they grow, they grow better. Is this that we all
Speaker 1: put our we all water, we all fertilize, we all
Speaker 1: do our part, each each individual, each individuals, each individual player,
Speaker 1: each other. I think there's a lot of fertilizing going
Speaker 1: on on the Eagles offense, I'll put it that way.
Speaker 1: There's there's been plenty of fertilizer involved with the defense
Speaker 1: has been worse to me too. Those stage of fertilized
Speaker 1: like they have, they have talent, it he they are
Speaker 1: being tested and I can just imagine guys like Cox
Speaker 1: listening in Kelsey and Derek Burnett listening to this mess
Speaker 1: terious slay they got. They gotta win this game. Lemon
Speaker 1: level I rolls. They need to win. The vibes are
Speaker 1: bad and the blow up there could be you know,
Speaker 1: they got to win some games. The fertilizer, by the way,
Speaker 1: that's what's it. And one of the power rankings. I
Speaker 1: got the lines of oh and seven. But fighting hard
Speaker 1: every week. This feels like they're winning this game. I'm
Speaker 1: with you. Should we lock it up together? No, but
Speaker 1: I agree Rams at Texans. The Texans are the worst
Speaker 1: team in football. They are thirty two in the Power rankings.
Speaker 1: The Rams this is I mean, this feels like a
Speaker 1: walk in the park. Just stay healthy, get your three
Speaker 1: touchdown win and say goodbye. Mark. I do want to
Speaker 1: see if there's a chance we get Tyrod Taylor just
Speaker 1: because they were like every number suggests they were so
Speaker 1: much spice here with him in the lineup. He's back
Speaker 1: at practice, but sound you know what, it sounds like
Speaker 1: one more week just because he's not getting the starters reps.
Speaker 1: But I think he might play again. I think, like
Speaker 1: even last week with Detroit doing all their trickery, enjoyable
Speaker 1: chicanery to the Rams, they still before halftime put together
Speaker 1: these ten eleven and Levin play touchdown drives were Stafford
Speaker 1: finished like seventeen for twenty three with a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty six yards two touchdowns. It's hard to evaluate who
Speaker 1: the Rams are with the last couple of teams. They're
Speaker 1: on this tour of the Patsy Giants, Lions, Texans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but but they've been she lacking them and
Speaker 1: I view them as a fairly unstoppable passing game. They're
Speaker 1: they're like Stafford has done, He's made less sneed Executive
Speaker 1: of the year. I thought that was his best game
Speaker 1: against the Lions and nose against the linesman in terms
Speaker 1: of the quality of the throws and the decisions that
Speaker 1: he makes. And they were actually putting a tough spot offensively,
Speaker 1: they barely got the ball, they were facing a big
Speaker 1: and yeah they should row. And they move on to
Speaker 1: seven and one, feeling good about them. And finally the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville yea you are is coming off there By week
Speaker 1: after that win in London on the last second field
Speaker 1: goal to beat, the Dolphins travel to Seattle to face
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Now this game here, Mark, you have forked
Speaker 1: the Seahawks up. Gino. This is your last chance. This
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance here Greg because he has
Speaker 1: flopped here as their backup. I'm sorry, um, this could
Speaker 1: be it for Gino. This could be his last NFL
Speaker 1: start and in a lot of ways. Maybe that would
Speaker 1: be the old for the amount of time we've had
Speaker 1: to talk about Gino Smith on this podcast unnecessarily. Maybe
Speaker 1: the penance is that you must lock Gino Smith up
Speaker 1: at home about I mean too. It would really validate
Speaker 1: has gone undefeated against the spread this year in tough situations,
Speaker 1: covered both times against really good coin flips, all those
Speaker 1: coin flips, great coin flips. His PFF grade this year
Speaker 1: higher and Jared Goff, Sam Donald, Ben Roethlisberger, Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Taylor Heineke, Trevor Lawrence, justin Field. So this
Speaker 1: is guy. This guy needs to come out here and
Speaker 1: compete and beat the compet let him, let him beat
Speaker 1: beat the jaggon we way, this is a game about coaching,
Speaker 1: because they have enough talent, and they got to let
Speaker 1: Gino throw the ball a little more. And they've looked
Speaker 1: a little better defensively since they've gotten rid of tree
Speaker 1: flowers and they got the six dB look. And Brooks
Speaker 1: and Wagon win this game, big. I think they think
Speaker 1: the Jaggers might win this game, and I think Gino
Speaker 1: and them are going to lock it up. You really
Speaker 1: should it only it's only fair. I would be a
Speaker 1: moment of total power. And I don't like moving. I
Speaker 1: hate changing decisions on anything. It always seems like it's
Speaker 1: a bad move to change decisions I got I have.
Speaker 1: I do have a weird feeling that Lawrence is gonna
Speaker 1: light up the Seahawks. We'll fire one off to mom
Speaker 1: Adams face masks at some point. He won't be perfect,
Speaker 1: but he will move the ball against Seattle and score points.
Speaker 1: And then you need Gino to score points and that's
Speaker 1: just not a given since he's taken over. Uh, they
Speaker 1: are not on first or second, Greg. You keep saying that,
Speaker 1: but there may be reasons why they're not allowing that
Speaker 1: to happen. Also, But I I I'm in a tough
Speaker 1: place with Gino Smith because I discovered during research this
Speaker 1: week that we share the same birthday. Libre power. So
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't matter. Well, it matters to me,
Speaker 1: I know it clearly doesn't matter to you. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: I honestly can tell you you care about Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: and the ranking right near Patrick Mahomes and the pf gades. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a list of like eighteen quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: Greg loves. They're all his babies. All right, there you go.
Speaker 1: That is week eight. Yes again, Thursday night football recap.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss a Packers Cardinals. Oh
Speaker 1: the game of the Center. I can't believe how that
Speaker 1: one played out. It hasn't happened yet, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: it was incredible. And Greg and maybe Claibon have the
Speaker 1: analysis or maybe me. You just never know that fact.
Speaker 1: Should I text them? Now? You want to call him?
Speaker 1: I put him on speaker, give him a call. All right?
Speaker 1: There we go for it. Can you do that, Ricky?
Speaker 1: We don't have like a phoner here. Just just call
Speaker 1: him and just put him on speaker and just if
Speaker 1: I could start the convo or you could start it.
Speaker 1: It's up to you. Okay, I think Dan should but
Speaker 1: on Greg's phone, Yeah, definitely coming from Greg. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you wanna you want to say it? I just wanna.
Speaker 1: I think maybe it would be better for me as
Speaker 1: a third party to make sure hopefully he picks up.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Yeah, put that right now there, go straight
Speaker 1: to voicemail. It's like it went straight immediately, so you
Speaker 1: knew that he clicked it. The dismiss that was the
Speaker 1: dismiss Should I leave a message? Yeah, all right, to
Speaker 1: make sure that I gotta keep that phone infote private.
Speaker 1: That's just such a Do you think that maybe it's
Speaker 1: he did that on purpose? The well, what he's gonna
Speaker 1: be there now? No, he's gone, you know, right? All right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's hope he's there Patrick Clayban, who does excellent work
Speaker 1: for us whenever he's on the show. Uh, and then
Speaker 1: we'll be back the television show, which is doing big numbers,
Speaker 1: like crazy numbers. I just got some actually from Stephen
Speaker 1: Manny and Research and Grave Digger gave me some of
Speaker 1: the data and some of the biggest numbers that you
Speaker 1: would imagine for a show that airs originally at four
Speaker 1: AM on the West Coast. I want to be more surprised,
Speaker 1: But I I know how the show works, I know
Speaker 1: who's on it. Um, I understand what we're competing against.
Speaker 1: Its feels like a home run. Alright, good, So check
Speaker 1: that out on NFL Networks at your DVRs. And then,
Speaker 1: of course, yes, the flagship show where we recap every
Speaker 1: game we just previewed here drops Sunday nights, so make
Speaker 1: sure to be there for that Halloween night. But we
Speaker 1: have to come up with our Halloween names. Remember we
Speaker 1: used to do that. We can't just use those same
Speaker 1: ones that became up. Remember Crypt Westling, what was yours?
Speaker 1: I was Dan Hanging Dark Dark Settler with the sea.
Speaker 1: Of course, Greg was Goola. We need ones for Ricky Hollywood. Oh,
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood Forever Cemetery. It wow, it's a good one.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, all right, let's go. Dan Hanson
Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm. I really wish Patrick picked
Speaker 1: up there because we would know for sure he's gonna
Speaker 1: be there. He said, yes, it's very reliable. You're not Storm,
Speaker 1: the old boss Ricky Hollywood. He the call to Pater