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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is still pissing all of

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Speaker 1: Angelo's from the Chris Westling Podcast studio. It's the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. I'm Dan hands this, Greg Rostal, Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have a new intro because the opportunity

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Speaker 1: of every show is It's an honor quite frankly, and

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Speaker 1: I love doing it. But it's the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast duplicative. Yeah, that's the writer in

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Speaker 1: you and the editor, which you know, Dan's an underrated

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Speaker 1: writer long time you know, journo little backhanded company right there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm just saying no, I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: people and I haven't I've encountered them that don't realize

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Speaker 1: That's where it's where we came from. But yeah, it

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Speaker 1: it bothers you as a writer whenever you have the

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Speaker 1: same word like twice in the two See. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it bothers every writer, um uh that are that's

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Speaker 1: covering sports. But it should it should. I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Chris off the top here too, because that reminds

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Speaker 1: me to reminder listeners to check out Lakisha's feature that

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Speaker 1: that we talked a lot about. We had Keisha on

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Speaker 1: our around the NFL broadcast. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: our listeners saw that because she sent it out in

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Speaker 1: Social but some of you haven't. We haven't talked about

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Speaker 1: And they are going to be airing a shorter version

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Speaker 1: of it on Game Day Morning this weekend, so that's cool.

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Speaker 1: And but you can see the full version at Keisha's

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Speaker 1: Social Hands literally the director's cut, and like I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. They played it also in the huge theater

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Speaker 1: a couple of terrible Sunday night football games for the

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Speaker 1: most part, you know, some good, not some not so good.

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Speaker 1: The Lakisha did such amazing work and all the people

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes that helped bring that to life, it

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Speaker 1: was so well done. And Greg you spoke for the

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Speaker 1: pod on in the segment, which was excellent, and Nick

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Speaker 1: Westling spoke on behalf of the Westling Brothers and that

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Speaker 1: was wonderful. And we heard from the doctors that uh

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Speaker 1: and the surgeons that worked with West during his battle

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Speaker 1: against cancer. So yes, check out if you're watching NFL Network,

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Speaker 1: check out the short version. Go, but finally seek out

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Speaker 1: the long one, because that that is the way to go.

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Speaker 1: It was a little it was a little toward of Greg.

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Speaker 1: I know he's gonna say something nice, but to demand

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Speaker 1: benefit of yeah, watching the long version, we got to

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Speaker 1: talk about it with her afterwards. On that version, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I would say that Greg's an underrated talking head, and

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Speaker 1: like a sensitive piece like that, I would say, as

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Speaker 1: he's been underrated. It is not a insult in any way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when Dan and I met, we

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Speaker 1: were turning to the mill where you're doing fourteen blogs today.

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Speaker 1: I do remember Dan the writer quite distinctly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he still exists. I think about you as the writer.

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Speaker 1: I remember that you guys are both time at your

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Speaker 1: It's like four or five Terrell prior. Now he said

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Speaker 1: to be the true, unvarned story that Greg twice has

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Speaker 1: done the whipping motion but not the sound of It's

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Speaker 1: like he affected he's expecting the drop to come in there,

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Speaker 1: for you guys here it's okay, right, and it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Thursday night recap Packers Cardinals speaking a lot of talk

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Speaker 1: recap with special guests Patrick. So he agreed if he

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Speaker 1: and and roll into the playoffs as a Juggernaut's kind

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Speaker 1: of how I see this. I see the Bucks as

427
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: the UM. Even though I have the Cardinals EDD and

428
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: power rankings, I think the Bucks are the team that

429
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: are going to come out of this conference with the

430
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: number one seed. So this is a great challenge, and

431
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: I love that it's at the Superdome, which even the

432
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: scales a little bit more. Like a few things show

433
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: me how much both teams have changed, and the Bucks

434
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: to your power rankings point or a Super Bowl team

435
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: that's gotten better, and like, can you imagine either result

436
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: from last year where the Saints put it on in

437
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: the thirty four to twenty three, then thirty eight to three.

438
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: It just wouldn't happen to this week nine. It was

439
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: right about the same same moment here. It just wouldn't

440
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: happen this time. And I think it's a great test

441
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: for what the Saints are right now, because yes they

442
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: are not UM necessarily they weren't a fun watch obviously

443
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 1: on on Monday Night, but their defense is very spicy,

444
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: and I think it's I just want to see how

445
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: this shakes out. They've gotten healthier last week, they're getting

446
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: healthier this week, and it's a great test for Tom

447
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: Brady for me. I mean, also, the Saints have brought

448
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: mark Ingram back into the mix, and they've said that

449
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: it is absolutely possible that he will play this weekend.

450
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 1: And I kind of like that reunion for their backfield

451
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: because post Latavious Murray, they need someone to help move

452
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara around to different spots and spell them at times.

453
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: I mean, good for him though he was on the

454
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: tech good vibes. It's good vibes bringing mark Ingram back.

455
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna make them happier. I think that

456
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: this same defense present some problems for Tom Brady um

457
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: that other defenses don't. I know those two games feel

458
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: like a long time ago, but even in the playoff game,

459
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: they forced a couple of mistakes. I know they put

460
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: up thirty points in that game, but he was held

461
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: under two yards passing if you remember it. They didn't

462
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: do anything in the second half. It was really the

463
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: Saints defense. Who are the Bucks defense who forced four

464
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: turnovers who won that game? And the Saints have done

465
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: a good job against Tom Brady where I think there's

466
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: a chance you could keep the Bucks under thirty. I mean,

467
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: that's that's all you can hope for, is like to

468
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: keep them to seven or something. Now, can Jamis Winston

469
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: and this Saints offense get to thirty. I I have

470
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: my doubts, even though I think six or something. I

471
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: mean on offense, I mean, you gotta get it, Like,

472
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: can you score thirty on offense? And I'm thinking about

473
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: another Manning cast moment, which is uh one play last

474
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: week where the Seahawk zero blitz and they just go,

475
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna go man to man everywhere else and the

476
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: Mannings were going crazy because no one was open, Like,

477
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: you gotta have some receivers that can get open. And

478
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: we talked about it in the off season, like are

479
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: they really going to go out there with like Marcus

480
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: Callaway and trade Kuan Smith and Adam Troutman and these

481
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: guys trying to win matchups? I mean that has to

482
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: be taken into account. This group has not exceeded expectations.

483
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: It's been right where you thought they would be, and

484
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: they just don't have many playmakers you can get open

485
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: until Michael Thomas Michael Thomas status it sounds like a

486
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks away and Adam Troutman was the guy

487
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: that I think appeared and probably seventy thousand fantasy articles. Goodness, Well,

488
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: they're going to explode because there is no other tighten

489
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: on the is Alvin Kamara, and Jamis just isn't that

490
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: great at the short routes. And he's a weird quarterback

491
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: that's better intermediate and deep. And he put some nice

492
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: deep throws on the Seahawks and they weren't complete. But

493
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: the Bucks have the one guy who is kind of

494
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: the Akse stopper. They drafted Devin White to stop Alvin

495
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: Kamara and for the most party slowed him down since

496
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: he was drafted. All right, up next, Mark Sessler, you

497
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: will select, Well, I'm gonna go where you know I

498
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: have to go emotionally, it's going to be the Browns

499
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: and the Steelers because it's a good game and I

500
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: don't trust someone else not to steal it if I

501
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: allow this, you know, process to go on for another

502
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: four unit. That's a good game. That's one of the

503
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: best games. That's a big game. You think it's a

504
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: big game. Two fan bases, it is. I'm just quarterback.

505
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Is where we had a Baker is practicing and he's

506
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: practicing as the starter, and he's interesting, Man, did that

507
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: he'll that he'll play? That's true? I think that like

508
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: he I think there's more steps, but you know he

509
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: isn't shelved. He is out there throwing. They said he

510
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: looked good throwing short intermediate. They didn't report on it.

511
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: It is funny thinking back, I kind of forgot that happened.

512
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: That Baker was like, I side whether I'm playing or not,

513
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Well that was la. They were like, that was not

514
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: the case. I know. Here's the thing, because this game

515
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: suddenly we're here and it's like an offseason. I know,

516
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: it started with me ripping down the Steelers and having

517
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: my fun, and then you start as the months creep up,

518
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: it's like suddenly in July, it's September, it's October. You

519
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: kind of game. I was just gonna say that you

520
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: cannot take this Brown's experience seriously if they don't go

521
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: and back up what happened in that playoff game, because

522
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: this is a Steelers team that's still vulnerable. Yet they

523
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: are very healthy right now. I think they had almost

524
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: no one on their injury report of note at all

525
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: this week. Tomlin seems super fired up. It wasn't just

526
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: the USC question, just in general. I think you got

527
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: Tomlin coming off of by their four no in their

528
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: last four times coming off of By. They are three

529
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: and oh against the Browns coming off of By, and

530
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: I think it matters. They've had another week to look

531
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: at where Cleveland's at, and especially that Denver game. You're

532
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: not gonna surprise him way the Broncos got surprised. They

533
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: haven't allowed dirty points all year long. T J Watt,

534
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: Cam Haywards, Payol. And here's the X factor that really,

535
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: really really for me concerns me. Jim Nance, Tony Romo

536
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: on the call. The Browns have had some of their

537
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: most embarrassing, most frustrating performances with these guys, and you

538
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: can just here Tony Romo just sort of being like,

539
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jim, like big Ben still got it,

540
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: like just you know, riffing on Mark's Raider so hard.

541
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Oh he is, because that when Jim Nance and Roma

542
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: are on the call, something in the building change too big,

543
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: it's too bid. Like now the Browns are finally reached

544
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain in terms of like they're

545
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: playing in big games and they can't get over that.

546
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: I will. Here's the one concession there in the cellar there,

547
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: and that's the thing you're the there's an argument for

548
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: you being the worst team in a very good division.

549
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Still a decent team, but that Denver game, I thought,

550
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: I will say, I want to say one thing. I

551
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: thought that Denver game caause one of my favorite Browns

552
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: performances under Stefanski. It wasn't flashy, but it kind of

553
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: showed who they are and they were in a dark

554
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: place and they come back. Then say that we would

555
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: have come back. Well, you guys can have your way

556
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: with it now. But it's like this game does make

557
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: me nervous. I shouldn't be watching it. It's like I'm

558
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: Vinny Testaverti's father. I don't need this on a Sunday ticker.

559
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: Cannot handle it. Um, you know what Baker should do.

560
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: He should go to the media and say, I demand

561
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: that I do not play this week. I am not ready,

562
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, I'll show you Baker put him

563
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: in the lineup. It just kind of funny because I

564
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: can't quite imagine any other quarterback saying that. So why

565
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: is It's totally out of protocol. So so like you know, um, yeah,

566
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: this is a big game and I don't know, man,

567
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't know Mark this is there. It's can't make

568
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: sense of the Browns all season. They've been a little

569
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: bit of a tough team to read. So to get

570
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: them now against the Steelers, and the Steelers obviously still

571
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: peeved about what happened in January, they were They now

572
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: get a chance to get some revenge going to Cleveland. Um.

573
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: If to me, it comes down to can the Steelers

574
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: build off the last couple of weeks Um Naj Harris, Uh,

575
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: you know he is if he gets a little more help,

576
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: a little better blocking, If the offense can um do

577
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more through the air, I think he

578
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: becomes an offensive Brookie of the Year guy because he's there, uh,

579
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: number one receiver, he's their primary ball carrier. He's on

580
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: the field and he's been been a good blocker. He's

581
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: doing everything they want him to do. They just need

582
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Ben and the passing game to get a little bit

583
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: together and the blocking up front that's so important that

584
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: they kind of continue to build on some uh some

585
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: positive aspects of the last two weeks. He Harris has

586
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: been solid, but he's not winning anything with with Jamar Chase,

587
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts and Mac Jones in the it is just

588
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But they need him in the running

589
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: game to be good because their offense has such a

590
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: limited ceiling throwing the ball like there that game on

591
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: Sunday night against the Seahawks was typical to me. That

592
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: was one of the better games they had throwing the

593
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: ball and as an offense. But then they needed overtime

594
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks defense that have been struggling to get

595
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: to three hundred and fifty yards and in twenty three

596
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: points or whatever it was. It's just it's limited and

597
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: I I don't feel like I'm struggling with with the Browns.

598
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: They've just been injured. I want to know that Jarvis

599
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Landry's playing. It sounds like he is, says he is,

600
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: but we don't know that Clowney, who's been great for them,

601
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: like has been even better I think than they could

602
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: have hoped for so far. He's a little banged up.

603
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: Denz Award really changes their secondary when he's not in there,

604
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: and he sounds quite iffy. But to me, they're just

605
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: a better team than the Steelers. They've got the assistant

606
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: coach of the Year Bill Callahan. Let's start that movement.

607
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who's on the offensive line. You can run

608
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: the ball when you've got a Callaghan on your on

609
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 1: your roster, on your coaching staff. He he really is

610
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: like the most. It's not Ni Kareem Hunt and the

611
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: rookie who's a real player. It's it's Bill Callahan. Okay,

612
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: let's give them the trophy. Give the trophy. Show me

613
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: the teams that Bill Callahan did not dramatically improve their

614
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: running game, they would not be the same without him.

615
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: I I really believe that. And and so I think

616
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: as long as this Browns are relatively healthy, and even

617
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: if Keenam played, I really liked them in this game.

618
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: I just think they're a better team. I think they're

619
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: a good team. You gotta do it, though, it's I'm

620
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: with you, gotta do it. Gonna be some big Sessler

621
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: energy going on in the early games. Looking forward to it.

622
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, all right, let's move on. Uh, Greg,

623
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: you're up, buddy. All right, this is easy. I'm taking

624
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: the Pats and the Chargers right across the street over

625
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: at so far. I want you to know that I

626
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: still have two jumps on you, and I very very

627
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: nearly jumped you, but I said I don't want to

628
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: be a mean guy, So you can jump me after

629
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: you've already used your pick. Okay, I didn't. I could

630
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: jump you at any time, and I've done it once

631
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: and I have two more. Were first you got herschel

632
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Walker level trade. It also wouldn't make sense you took

633
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: the Bucks, Saints and the Patriots Chargers. Then I could

634
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: have given it to Mark or something or Shook. I mean,

635
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: I could just wheel and deal for destruction, but I

636
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: chose not to go ahead. Sure Savior jumps that. It

637
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: helps the show. It adds a little more at tension,

638
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: and let me watch this. I haven't watched any Paths

639
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: live almost this year. I haven't wanted to. They haven't

640
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: been that interesting, but I'm interested now they got my attention.

641
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is playing better each and every week. They're

642
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: going to book against Herbert, who they held to no

643
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: points a year ago. His worst game as a pro

644
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: came against the Patriots. Don't think that's gonna carry over

645
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: very well because they don't have the same defensive backs.

646
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmore's playing for the Panthers. They lost Jonathan Jones

647
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: for the season, one of the most underrated cornerbacks, one

648
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: of the better slot cornerbacks in the league. So now

649
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: you're down two corners. I'm including that you're down Gilmore

650
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: because when you're starting Jalen Mills and you're starting this

651
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: guy Miles Bryant who just came off the practice squad,

652
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: like you're down, they are not the same secondary. So

653
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to stay aggressive offensively. You're

654
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to score points to beat this Chargers team,

655
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: and I think they could potentially do it. I think

656
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: they are rounding into shape on offense, and Damien Harris

657
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: and this inside running game is great. They've stopped it

658
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: with the outside runs. They've stopped trying to get to fancy.

659
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: They've settled on an offensive line group now with own

660
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: when you at right tackle, uh and the interior is

661
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: stabilized and Win at left tackle. That I think they like.

662
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna start the same group for the second straight

663
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: week for the first time maybe all season, and I

664
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: think they could give the Chargers a lot of problems

665
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: that I think it'll be a fun game. I love

666
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots to cover five and a half. I don't

667
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: know if they win this, but I really think they're

668
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: gonna be They're gonna be competitive, and I thought a

669
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: few things were more impressive. And I know it was

670
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: the Jets, so you can you can put it on

671
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: that scale. But Harris just slashing the middle of of

672
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: New York's defense over and over, and this is a

673
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: good I mean, the Chargers run defense is one of

674
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: the biggest issues. So you like that set up. I

675
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: think Matt Jones, you know, throwing for three plus, it

676
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: looked like the offense just took a tangible step forward

677
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: with the chances they were willing to take. With some

678
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: trickery as well. They kind of just went for it

679
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: and flex their muscles and they put it on on

680
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert a year ago. It's a different season and

681
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: the Chargers. You know, the one thing I love about

682
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: Brandon Stilly on a bye week is that he went

683
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: deep into the lab. He's all about analytics, and you know,

684
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: they've been a very good team on third down, um

685
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: the sixth highest conversion rate on third down with Justin Herbert.

686
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: But he basically said we've got to get much better

687
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: on earlier day. I think he's just he's coming up

688
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: with some new plans. But their offensive line, also, which

689
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: we were worried about, has been one of the better

690
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: past protecting lines. In the league, which is a huge

691
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: change from a year ago. We'll get to it a

692
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: little bit later when we get to the forty niners.

693
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: But like going into your off your bye week analytics

694
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: deep dive, it usually only works if you have a

695
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: really good quarterback to execute everything they do. And I

696
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: think Justin Herbert is going to have a big game here.

697
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't trust the Patriots defense. I actually trust their

698
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: offense more. I think they are a better offense team

699
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: right now. So I'm just I'm just saying that I

700
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: think the Patriots, and you've been banging the drub on this,

701
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: Greg that you look at the Patriots wins. They beat

702
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: the Jets twice, they beat Houston, uh barely in in Houston,

703
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, the Dallas games show they

704
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: can hang with a good team. But am I soul

705
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: that the Patriots aren't one of those teams Like they're

706
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna beat all the bad teams. They're gonna win about

707
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: half of the matchups against the good teams and then

708
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: get beat by anybody that is very good or above.

709
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: The difference maybe a little better if you're a Patriots fan.

710
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: The difference is Mac Jones Overcamp. So the whole thing.

711
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: When I look at the Patriots right now, is is

712
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: mac Jones going to continue to ascend and then by

713
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: the end of the year be seen as like the

714
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: breakout quarterback. I think it's in play. I really do

715
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: like him. But I like the Chargers this week a lot.

716
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: In fact, I like them so much and it it is.

717
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: It matters because there's something magic, there's something magical going

718
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: on with it. I got some sprinkled dust here. Uh, Ricky,

719
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: this is not personal, even though you're wearing the oversized

720
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: edel in jersey. Up. Yes, let's go Bolts. Show me

721
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: a Bolts by the way little thing. Everyone wants to

722
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: crown the Bolts as a superpower. Okay, come off your

723
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: by in your building and spank the Patriots. They'll do it,

724
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: and I'm counting on them to do it. They're healthier defensively,

725
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: some guys like at the linebacker spot and Justin Jones

726
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle that aren't big names but are starters

727
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: that they were missing against Baltimore. I think they have

728
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: three starters returning after. Are you worried about the sprinkle

729
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: a little bit? You're using the the your dark magic

730
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: um to make your Sunday more enjoyable by burying the

731
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: team you dislike the most, and um in burying me

732
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: in the process. This game in person, you could cross,

733
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: you could. It's like a two yard strip up. It

734
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: would be I mean, nailed all that analysis. By the way,

735
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: I just want to say, um, yeah, which I should

736
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: be able to do that, damn it. Just tell say

737
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal and then the door open. I entered

738
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: the raffle, by the way, I've done that like twelve times.

739
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: If I were to win the Raffle, I would I

740
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: would consider giving you the tickets. Okay, I haven't heard yet.

741
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: I'll let you know. All right, let's move on. I said,

742
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: consider Greg. It's snakes, do you, buddy, It's a very

743
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: active snake this. I know. I'm waiting for the end

744
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: of this. I think you're primed to get jumped here.

745
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: Pick um, big game, big AFC South game, nice early game.

746
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: That is a good game. That's a good pick. It's

747
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: it's the chance for the Colts to get back to relevance. Now,

748
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: if they end up three and five, if you look

749
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: at their schedule the rest of the way, I still

750
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: think they will get back into the wild card mix.

751
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: It just doesn't end their season, but this really raises

752
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: the ceiling. It gives you a chance to win the division.

753
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: It gives you a chance to, you know, really look

754
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: at themselves and and be proud that they overcame the

755
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: start that they did. They've outscored their opponents since they

756
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: last played the Titans in their three wins by fifty points.

757
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: They've got a runner and Jonathan Taylor, who I'm not

758
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: gonna say he's better than Derrick Henry, but I take

759
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: him in this game over Derrick Henry because I am

760
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: the Colts. At the Colts, according to E p A

761
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: and d v O a number one run defense in

762
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: the league. Titans, I have to believe it. And Taylor

763
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: does the things as a running back that get me excited,

764
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: which is that hesitation, that vision and just that explosion.

765
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he is fun to watch. West was on

766
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: this early. I think he called him like a top

767
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: five ten runner in the NFL quite early last season.

768
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't realize it then, but he he

769
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: was ahead of it. And uh, I think there's it's

770
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: a Titans team that they've historically had success with. Rabels

771
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: never been able to sweep Frank Reich. They got hired

772
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: the same year, and I think Titans coming off two

773
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: big wins, it's a coin flip game, but I think

774
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: the Colts could pull this thing off. You know. The

775
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: thing for me about Tennessee is that last week. I

776
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: love that they came out biggest game of the year,

777
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: fifteen runs, fifteen passes. They were totally balanced. It wasn't

778
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: all about Derrick Henry. You know, this is a weird

779
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: one where they close out their two game series in

780
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Week eight, which is early for division foes. They held

781
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor to sixty four rushing yards that first time.

782
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's game script. They they the Titans

783
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: never trailed in that game. Was the Carson Wentz is

784
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: playing on two broken angles and like it was comical

785
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: that he even was trying to play in that game.

786
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: Know it helps, it's different, but I I look at

787
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: the Titans and I kind of feel like a huge

788
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: X factor for me was if Todd Downing could come

789
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: in and duplicate what Arthur Smith did as a play

790
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: caller on offense. And it just did not look that

791
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: way early on. Except since that awful Week one, they're

792
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: averaging like thirty points a game. They're the team that's grown.

793
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Cults, you're thinking they have.

794
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: But I look at the Cults. The Cults to me

795
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: are like I appreciate the Cults. They're kind of a

796
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: meat and potatoes team their defense, they're your team long

797
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: term now they are absolutely not because I see zero

798
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: exciting X factors that tell me that they're more powerful

799
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: and the Titans and I I I am comfortably locking

800
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: up the Titans, comfortably interesting, digger. So you lock against

801
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: the Titans one week, you lock in favor of them

802
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: the next. Called learning. I'm sure that Graver does not

803
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: feel as confident. I'm okay, I'm not gonna put words

804
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: to his mouth. I'm gonna ask him, Graver, just because

805
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: the Colts have been a tough um test for Mike

806
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: Rabel to solve, right, So you gotta worry. It's a

807
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: division game. Don't let him, don't let him be a

808
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: leading questioner. You come in with your own opinions based

809
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: off of who you are. I got some stats if

810
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: you guys want them. So this is according to the

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Speaker 1: New York Times playoff simulator Thing Titans current odds to win.

812
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: The Division one. If they win on Sunday, it jumps

813
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: to it. That's a terrible did two of the teams

814
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: don't exist in that. It's a rap because yeah, it

815
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter if you have swept that head to

816
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: head on top of having a huge lead. At this

817
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: point it is, it's pretty much over here. Lennard called

818
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: it a must win game, so you already in the

819
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: heads of these players. Here's the thing, though, I'm picking

820
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: the Colts in this game out right. I think they are.

821
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: They're a desperate team, they're playing better. Well now, I

822
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: don't feel that come because I'm resepecting the Titans and

823
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: what they've done the last two weeks obviously, but the

824
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Titans are not a flawless team. The Titans can be

825
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: beat there on the road. They could lose and still

826
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: be okay. Whereas the Colts, they know full well Frank

827
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: reis good as coach. Frank Reig's drilling into their heads

828
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: all week. Hey boys, we lose this, we done. We

829
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: need to protect this house. And I think with Taylor

830
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: and Whens playing at a higher level, if the Titan

831
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: come out of this, put it this way, grave digger,

832
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: the Titans come out of this game and spank the Colts.

833
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: In this setting, I look at the Titans at a

834
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: level that I didn't even take out of them. After

835
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: beating the two big time contenders. I see them as

836
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: maybe not top four, maybe in the there there to

837
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: me become like a top five to seven NFL team.

838
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: That's how much I put into this game and how

839
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: much is against the Cults right now. And Greg said it,

840
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: it is a huge letdown spot after those two wins

841
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: that they're coming off of. And it's also a lot game,

842
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: a lot different type of matchup because the Titans haven't

843
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: really had to deal with stopping running games over the

844
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: last two weeks. It's been the Bills and the Chiefs

845
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: passing all over the field, So I don't know if

846
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: the Titans came Bradon Brandon Smith, the right tackle for

847
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: the Colts, sounds like he'll be back. T Y Hilton

848
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: did return for a limited practice on Thursday. Quentin Nelson

849
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: was back last week, so Wentz is playing. I think

850
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: the Titans are a better team, but I think it's

851
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: hard to sweep a division opponent and this will be

852
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: I just I feel like everyone sees more in the

853
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: Cults than I do, but I they put me to

854
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: sleep a couple of They are your favorite team. Now

855
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: though spun the wheel that segment. You're the one that

856
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: said that segment had some issues. It was your choice

857
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: to spin the wheel. I know it, I understand, but

858
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: I learned a lesson and now I'll say something positive

859
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: about the Titans, because I know Titans fans are always

860
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: in their feelings about things, and I respect your passion, guys,

861
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: but calm down sometimes, Um, Mike Rabel good coach. Let's

862
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: just say it. I know we're always asking questions. It

863
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: feels like entering seasons. It's Mike Rabel really a good coach.

864
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: While the results are there and now the offensive architect

865
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: leaves and there's still a good team. They got a

866
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: good guy, never had a losing record. He's Tomlin like

867
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's only in year four, so wouldn't never insummation.

868
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a good lock. Mark, Good luck to

869
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: you on it. Um. It wouldn't stunned me if they want.

870
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: But the cults, I feel like they're gonna come. It

871
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: could be a week because I actually planned to lock

872
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. But for the showmanship aspect that

873
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: on Twitter when you locked it up, I was thinking,

874
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, it was like, I don't want to make

875
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: you feel uncomfortable with my grasp over that was It

876
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: was like when the Moonwalk was debuted at the Soul

877
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: Train Awards. Um, all right, let's go, Mark, You're up, buddy,

878
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: your second pick will be I'm doing this for a friend.

879
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to unburden a friend of something that's been

880
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: a burden, a green colored burden. I'm gonna take the

881
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: Bengals at the Jets because while Cleveland is battling Pittsburgh,

882
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: I want to monitor Suddenly. I must monitor the Bengals

883
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: for the first time in half a decade, because they matter.

884
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: They are the number one team in the a f

885
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: C North. It's no fluke. What they did to the Ravens,

886
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: and it took me a while to get to that

887
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: game was incredibly impressive. The Jets are sitting ducks right now.

888
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I honestly, for all you want to say about the

889
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: Jets offense. By the way, no it's not right now, Gosh,

890
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the Bengals might be

891
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: like ten points or so, yeah, more, and they're gonna

892
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: and I think they have a chance to say we

893
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: don't care. We're not gonna let the Jets anymwere close

894
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: to that. They just start able to do everything on

895
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: offense that it pleases the eye. Joe Burrow has nine

896
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: touchdown passes the thirty plus yards. Watching Jamaar Chase catch

897
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: that one uh long touchdown that began with here's the catch.

898
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 1: I'm spinning around. I've got three Ravens within arm lengths

899
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: arms length of me. See all later. I'm out. Like

900
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a Bengals player like that in a

901
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: long long time. I think this is a great set

902
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: up for Joe Mixon after watching New York's reported run defense,

903
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: um just get destroyed. But it was a little bit

904
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: of a flukey game on Brandon Bold and is lighting

905
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: up your line your like fifth string line. Speaking of

906
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Brandon Bold, and I feel like he's been playing for

907
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: like fourteen years at this point and still making plays

908
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: for New England. But if if you're if you're the Bengals,

909
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: and you don't go you talk about a letdown game,

910
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: you've got to go absolutely drop a metallic camera on

911
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: the racks. Worried about this game. He thinks that's what's

912
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's where Bengals fans competing. It's crazy. Can

913
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: we talk about the Flacco trade? Yes, second, I'm not

914
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm so Flacco gets dealt to the Jets

915
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: to sit for him, and I just kind of assumed, Okay,

916
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna start this week. Then there there's reports that no,

917
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: actually Flacco is not going to practice till Friday. Such

918
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: a bad look. Mike White is going to start this week,

919
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: And I just started thinking, like it was the Flacco

920
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: have to be convinced to show up, Like did he

921
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: consider retiring, because I think that's what he asked for.

922
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: He asked for a couple more days to make the move.

923
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: It's a short moves. He's an older guy. He was

924
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: with it like he might not want to play, and

925
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: because didn't they trade him to play and he's not

926
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: playing this week. Mike White had a couple of moments

927
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: actually last week where he didn't look terrible. But it's

928
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: a tough situation. He's a new offense. It's not he's

929
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: not going into last year's offense. That he said like

930
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: it was like Garret, you know, he's had experience in

931
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: a similar type of which the building and the team.

932
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: But it's a weird move, but it was always weird.

933
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: The Jets played that poorly, of course they always do

934
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: by having no experience on the roster behind Zack Wilson.

935
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: Uh So the fact that you as soon as Zack

936
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: Wilson gets hurt and you go and scramble and trade

937
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: for the guy you had last year, it's just a

938
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: bad look. It shows that you weren't prepared. It didn't

939
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: have the foresight that even all the beat writers and

940
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: uh you know, jabronies like us had. So it is

941
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: what it is. He will play probably, and the Zach

942
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: Wilson I don't know if we even talked about on

943
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: the show. He's out. It looks like two to four

944
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: weeks with this PCL. He wasn't terrible before he got injured.

945
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: He did, he had a couple of night. They're playing

946
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: on Thursday night next week the Jets, unfortunately, so that

947
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: means Wilson's definitely out for that game. So it's either

948
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: White or Mark game. This has this has a thirty

949
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: to six final written all over it. We shall see.

950
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: I do have one idea though, the Jets two things

951
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: that they don't have yet an interception or a point

952
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and um, I have an idea here.

953
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Play this. This is from an apologies to Catalan and Lofton.

954
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: I kind of got after him on Sunday. Uh, you know,

955
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: bad job not mentioning the whole bell check running up

956
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: the score. But you know you just were in the

957
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: eye of a tornado. So sorry guys for getting after

958
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: you on Sunday night. If you're listening, Um, but play

959
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Lofton and Catalan. In conversation late in the first quarter

960
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Robert Sale told us he made a couple

961
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: of subtle changes to try to jump start the offense.

962
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: One of them. Every day at Jets practice, there's a

963
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: four play competitive period, the first team offense against the

964
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: first team defense. If they tie each winning two, they

965
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: do a basketball shootout to determine the winner. But in

966
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: any event, that's usually done at about in the afternoon.

967
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: This week it was done closer to one o'clock, which

968
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: is closer to the start of a game. They were

969
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: hoping that little things like that would help to get

970
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: them going on the quarter of games. So here's my idea.

971
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: We move that up to noon, so you do the

972
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: basketball shootout at noon, and then by the time that happens,

973
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: their internal clock will be one hour later for kickoff,

974
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: which is usually when they start playing better noon, not

975
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: one for the competitive basketball shootout. Yeah, talk about eyes

976
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: on the prize. This is what's happening behind closed doors

977
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: in Flora Park. Alright, Uh, okay, Mark, so you got

978
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: the Jets there, that's okay, And Mark was a class act.

979
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: He approached me about it before we came on. And

980
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: I am on a break from the Jets, so that

981
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: is fine, okay, I am up now on and it's

982
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: really pretty rough right now. There's not a lot of

983
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: good games left to pick. I will check in on

984
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: the Panthers and Falcons here. Uh, we know where Carolina is.

985
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: They are in the tank. A report came out early

986
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,959
Speaker 1: in the week that the Panthers were in the mix

987
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson like an hour after the game, right

988
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: they were? They were now. I think the wording in

989
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: the ESPN report is they were evaluating their search for

990
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback after they had benched Sam Donald uh

991
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: in the loss to the Giants. And then another report

992
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: I think maybe it was rap sheet Um connected them

993
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: directly to Watson. But then a report came out yesterday,

994
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: uh Wednesday that the Panthers were not in on Deshaun Watson.

995
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: So we'll see what's going on there. But I think

996
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense because what Deshaun Watson. Forget

997
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: about all the you know, ugliness around the situation. He's

998
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: not gonna save their season anyway. It's not like whoever

999
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: gets Deshaun Watson, if he has moved before Monday or

1000
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is, is gonna slot into the starting lineup.

1001
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna make everyone there miserable, from the coach to

1002
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. Is what would happen, which is why

1003
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: I still don't think it will happen. And maybe he

1004
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: does go to the Panthers, but maybe David Tepper, as

1005
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: much as he wants to Shaun Watson, potentially is like, well,

1006
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it in the middle of the season.

1007
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: It doesn't even make sense. Um, now, you have to

1008
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: play the games. And you know that that Sam Donald

1009
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: because if their backup quarterback situation is going to continue

1010
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: to be the starter for the time being. Uh So

1011
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: that's where they are. And you got a Falcons team

1012
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: in Atlanta that has been frisky on offense. Uh Like,

1013
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: I'll give him that, and I think they're gonna score

1014
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: points in this game. But I also think even against

1015
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: the Dolphins that win over the Dolphins they got the

1016
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 1: field goal to end Greg that this is a team

1017
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: that all season for the rest so far to this point,

1018
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: and I think for the rest of the year they'll

1019
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: score some points. They can get ahead, but the defense

1020
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: is always begging to give away games, and I could

1021
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: see that happening even here. If Carolina could square even

1022
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: against the Jets, there was no reason away exactly, but

1023
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: they keep playing these really uh week offenses for the

1024
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: most part that they can get away with it, and

1025
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: this is another week they could have a winning record

1026
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: after this week. There's certainly a winnable game for for Atlanta.

1027
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: I I just don't know what happened to Carolina on

1028
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: offense other than Sam Donald. I guess if we want

1029
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: to put everything on him, it seems crazy because they're

1030
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: twenty nine right now in e p A like they

1031
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: are one of the worst offenses in the league. It's

1032
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: not just that they're struggling, they're there. They're almost unplayable.

1033
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: This should be a matchup where seam Donald doesn't look

1034
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: uh terrible. But on the other side, you got some

1035
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: guys who are just looking amazing. I mean, Kyle Pitts

1036
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: is that guy. Remember the first couple of weeks We're like, oh, yeah,

1037
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: Kyle pitt Where where is the guy that's gonna change

1038
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: change the face of the world. Well, here he is. Here,

1039
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: he's he was making every type of catch in that

1040
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: that was as good a game from a rookie tight

1041
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: end that's probably ever you know that's been played. Because

1042
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: he couldn't do anything more than he did every type

1043
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: of play that you would want someone to make like

1044
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: he made it. If you were asking me, who would

1045
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: you take for the rest of your career, Kyle Pitts

1046
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: or Jamaar Chase, it's still a question. That's the guys

1047
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: who went four or five. I don't think that's a slamdunk.

1048
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: That's how good he is. To your point, if you

1049
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: watch that game. The end of that game, so there's

1050
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: two big completions from Ryan too Pitts and get him

1051
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: in field goal range and then coo H's a kick

1052
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: Falcons be Dolphins on the play that really put them

1053
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: in field goal rangey yard or Pitts lines up on

1054
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: the outside against Xavien how Ward and all pro ball

1055
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: hawk who regularly shuts dudes down, and he beat him

1056
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: by a step and then just one with his size

1057
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: and athleticism and then just won the ball and won

1058
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: the game. Like he's doing stuff that Darren Waller, when

1059
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: Darren Waller is locked in, can do that. Um. But

1060
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: that's it to me when you talk about tight ends, well,

1061
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: it's like he's a powerful enough type of presence where

1062
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: no matter what happens to the Falcons Falcons this season,

1063
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: you look back and say, Kyle Pitts is something you

1064
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: build around for forever here and there are other questions there,

1065
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: but I mean, their rebuild right now, and I never

1066
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: would have thought this a couple of weeks ago looks

1067
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: a little more promising than Carolina's. It's not just Sam

1068
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Donald though, because their offensive line has been bad and

1069
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: they have the most wide receiver drops since Week four.

1070
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they're that group of wide receivers has killed Dona.

1071
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: They get Jack Thompson back this week, and they get

1072
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Stephon Gilmore this week, which I'm very intrigued. I kind

1073
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: of wish I made this on your radar. I'm into

1074
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: the Falcons, and I want to see Gilmore and how

1075
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: he by all accounts in New England, he could have

1076
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: played Week one and that he absolutely was sitting out

1077
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: and they knew that, and that's partly why they traded him,

1078
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: because they just like, I can't deal with this. I

1079
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: want to see him matching up against Kyle Pitts. That

1080
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: would be the matchup Kyle Pitts. You can call him

1081
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: a tight end. He's basically he is a wide receiver.

1082
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: He's just a receiver, and he could be one of

1083
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: the best wide receivers in the league. It's not just

1084
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: tight end Kish Sunday not on a improving Patriots scene

1085
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: right now? What Uh? Sometimes it's just like, let's we're

1086
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: going separate ways. How about just make him play? How

1087
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: about just make him play or give him like a

1088
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: couple of million dollars because he's gonna make your team better.

1089
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: Money does not solve everything. Greg, I know that that's

1090
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: counter to your thing. I think in this case, it

1091
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: was a percent about money that there was a lot

1092
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: of respect. Say in this situation last summer, remember that

1093
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: was another guy whod been with the team for while

1094
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: as a star, and he was unhappy with this contract,

1095
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 1: and the Charger said, hey, you know what, we respect you.

1096
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: You've done a lot for organization. Let's play ball. We're

1097
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: gonna of you some guaranteed money. We don't have to

1098
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: give you. We're gonna move some things around. How about

1099
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: we get on the field and we do this together.

1100
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: And he did. But that's not how the Patriots and

1101
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: Bill Bill check out. Speaking of which Melvin Ingram wants

1102
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 1: out of Pittsburgh, they never play for the Steelers again.

1103
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: And that's just which we were saying, like, you know,

1104
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: this is just a total Steeler. It's just gonna we

1105
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: had a couple of great weeks and I don't know

1106
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: what's happening. All right, I have to take one more game.

1107
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: These are nut that Panthers want to do. We'll see,

1108
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: all right. Let me let's toss the break and I

1109
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: got you one when we come back. All right, we're back. Uh,

1110
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: you might as well check in on the other bad No,

1111
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Niners at Bears will

1112
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: grab this is pretty rough. These are this is some

1113
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: rough pickens right now. Uh, forty Niners at Bears. I

1114
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: want to see the last Jimmy Garoppolo start in the

1115
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: history of the fort. So this gives me a chance

1116
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: to do that. I would imagine Trey Land, Uh, if

1117
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: he can get healthy, is at some point going to

1118
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: get in there. And I think it was Peter King

1119
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: did a interview that I read an article that was

1120
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: based off the interview, and I like King. I like King.

1121
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: I think he's uh, he has good insight of things.

1122
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: He's been out in Monday Morning Quarterback in her piece. Yes,

1123
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: I mean when Peter King is a guy, he's one

1124
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: of those guys that it's been around for so long

1125
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: that you can kind of take him for granted. But

1126
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: then when he's gone, well, miss Peter King. That's my take. Um,

1127
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: all that said, I don't know why I'm talking about

1128
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: Peter King so much, Right, you're upset about being underrated.

1129
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope he doesn't here this. He's like,

1130
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: what am I I'm saying? It was a legend. You're

1131
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna miss him when he's gone. Um, Peter

1132
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: King said that, why would have you gone? Though? Well,

1133
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be around. He's been doing this

1134
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: for like or forty years. Not well, not life's fragile,

1135
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: although certainly it is It's just I think he's in

1136
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: a man. He's a man in his sixties. Now, we

1137
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: traveled very far banks enough money if he wants to

1138
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: just start traveling around and tasting those back the money

1139
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: where he can do it, the coffee nerdness anyway, that

1140
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: it gets you that mark if nothing else. I I

1141
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: just said, I can't be one materialistic all the time.

1142
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: There are other things happening. Peter King said in this

1143
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: interview that I read an article based on the interview

1144
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: that he was all about where Kyle Shanahan was coming

1145
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: down on this Trey Lance situation. Don't play him. It's

1146
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: not worth trying to save this season if it's going

1147
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: to mess up the kids development. I guess, I guess

1148
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: I buy in on all that. It makes sense, but

1149
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: at a certain point, uh, you're gonna have to turn

1150
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: to the kid if Grappolo doesn't show improve And I

1151
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: thought he was so bad on Sunday night, and yes,

1152
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: blah blah blah the weather and all that, but it's

1153
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: at a certain point you can't ignore it anymore that

1154
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: he's a detriment to your offense. And I think when

1155
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking about, like kind of more broadly about

1156
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: Shanahan because he's catching a lot of heat now and

1157
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: I think maybe a little too much heat, because I

1158
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: think what people don't typically realizes that with these quote

1159
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: unquote quarterback whis or these offensive geniuses that everyone falls

1160
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: in love with, it only works at the quarterbacks. Good

1161
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: like you don't look look at Shaunaka is a perfect example.

1162
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: When GoF came into the league, when was playing at

1163
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: a high level, he was a genius. Then the last

1164
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: couple of years, all of a sudden, is mcveighs sttle genius.

1165
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: Now he went and got a better quarterback. He's a

1166
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: genius again, Like I think Kyle Shannon will resume being

1167
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: a genius as soon as he can get a quarterback

1168
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: that can run an offense effectively. And until that happens,

1169
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: he's trapped in a twilight zone and the team will

1170
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: continue to lose more than the win and be continue

1171
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: to be disappointing, and he will continue to be a

1172
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: subject of talk. Is he overrated? No, he's not overrated.

1173
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: All offensive geniuses are overrated because it really goes back

1174
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Yeah. I think like the whole cub

1175
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: whisper thing is typically the result of lack of information

1176
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: we don't understand, like how they communicate what they're doing.

1177
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: But there's no question that Shanahan before this season would

1178
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: have been looked at someone who had to deal with

1179
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: a lot of backup quarterbacks, mid level hype quarterbacks and

1180
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: would maximize them. That's not been the case this year

1181
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: at all. And I thought that his comments after Week

1182
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: seven were and you know, a couple of writers mentioned

1183
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: this too, that he seemed humbled. It was a different

1184
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: version of Shanahan where he wasn't the genius in terms

1185
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: of the product we're seeing week to week. And they

1186
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: asked him about Lance and he said, I don't think

1187
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: it's fair to him, and I don't think it's right

1188
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: for our team to put him in the lineup right now.

1189
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: And I think it tells me that the environment in

1190
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: San Francisco is not what it's been in the past

1191
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: in terms of like the dominant ground game, the offensive

1192
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: line has not been totally supreme. You've got guys like

1193
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Auk who are one of the more mysterious, uh notable,

1194
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: strange not being used players in the league right now.

1195
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: And I guess you could also look at justin fields

1196
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, if you put a young quarterback into

1197
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: a bad situation, they are going to struggle. He struggled

1198
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: mightily a week ago. And the four worst quarterback rankings

1199
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: pastor ratings in the league right now are all rookies.

1200
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: They they're not that talented. There's this idea that the

1201
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: forty niners are really talented. But when you take Trent

1202
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Williams who missed that game Sunday night and it sounds

1203
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: like you might miss another, and you take George Kittle

1204
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: out and he will be on i RM for one

1205
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: more week, They're not that talented. There's like they're trying

1206
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: to convince themselves into Trent Shefield in the preseason. Where

1207
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: where did that go? They're not that talented at running

1208
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: back either. I'm surprised to see a Shanahan quarterback. Even

1209
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy G struggled this much because this is the worst

1210
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: version of Jimmy G. It got me thinking how not

1211
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: all good trades and not our good values are good

1212
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: for you. Because Shanahan's entire tenure in San Francisco has

1213
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: been shaped by taking Jimmy Garoppolo for a mid second

1214
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: round pick because the value was good. I don't think

1215
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: they really wanted Jimmy Garoppolo. I know that in a

1216
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,479
Speaker 1: way because they didn't call about Jimmy Garoppolo. They called

1217
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots about Tom Brady. Is Tom Brady available? No,

1218
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: you can have Jimmy g For a late second, they

1219
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: didn't have quarterback. They're just like, well, this isn't really

1220
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: like a permanent thing. But it's like, why don't we

1221
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: just take him? But then they and here we are though,

1222
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: four or five years later, and because of a lot

1223
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: of things that happened, it's like they still have him.

1224
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: And I never have felt that he's been a perfect fit.

1225
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: I've never felt that Kyle Shanahan's felt that he's a

1226
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: perfect fit. And they it's taken him a long way

1227
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: to like get out of it. Because the one year

1228
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: where they were they were healthy and they had him,

1229
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: they go to the super view, they were mesmerized by

1230
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: him because he had those six games when they have

1231
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: post trade where we all thought, wait a minute, they

1232
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: have it was better than what they had. So then

1233
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: they paid not take them. They paid him a ton

1234
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: of money. And I also think because someone could come

1235
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: back on what I said to kick off this conversation, said, well,

1236
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: well he had they did thrive with Jimmy G once one.

1237
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: This is not the same Jimmy G anymore. I think

1238
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: the injuries of really taking a toll on Garoppolo uh

1239
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: all over his body, and I just think he's a

1240
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: marginalized player of what he used to be. And I

1241
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: think you just got a certain point make a move

1242
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: because you're right and justin Fields on the other side,

1243
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: just to touch on the Bears real quick, they're in

1244
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: the same situation where it's it seems like it's one

1245
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: step forward, two steps back with a rookie quarterback. But

1246
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: I just feel like we have reached the point where

1247
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is the in case of emergency break glass situation.

1248
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: Not for Kyle Shanahan's job security, but for this season.

1249
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, his reputation right now is like,

1250
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: how do I get back to where I was? I

1251
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: need some fresh blood in here, and maybe it works out,

1252
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: but it is a risk, it's a gamble if you

1253
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's ready. This NFC Wildcard race is quite

1254
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: open at the back end, so both of these teams

1255
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: are certainly not giving up on being part of that race.

1256
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: This is a big game for them. San Francisco is

1257
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: a heavy favorite on the road. I'm kind of past

1258
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: the point of San Francisco being a heavy favorite against anyone.

1259
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bears they did beat the Raiders. They

1260
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: they were competitive there with the Bengals, like they've they've once.

1261
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: They were the only team that won easily. I'm not like,

1262
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm just not like penciling in San Francisco turning this around,

1263
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would be there after watching. But

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01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: there's no Cleil mac and it's possible that Chris Tabor

1265
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: is the head coach, their special teams coordinator if Naggy

1266
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: doesn't get through the COVID stuff. All right, we have

1267
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: two more picks, Mark, what's your third game? Well, let

1268
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: me look here. This is the offerings are becoming less

1269
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: pleasant by the minute. But I'm gonna go because I

1270
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: have to do for like the eighth week in a row,

1271
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: I have to watch Titty Teddy Bridgewater. Which it's fine.

1272
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Washington at Denver. He just called the

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01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: Titty's well I called I did not intend to well,

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01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: I didn't. That's not That's a great Halloween costume, by

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01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: the way. You just you Teddy's costume then just like

1276
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: a busty teddy Bridgewater. I did not call it that though,

1277
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: just when it gets put out in the individual you

1278
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: should wear that anybody. Um, I got for the first

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01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: time in a long time. Um, we live in this

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01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: this nice little town and out in l a Uh

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01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: and uh there's like an adult a Halloween party that

1282
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: my wife got invited to Saturday night. And uh, you

1283
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: know I have to come up with the costume and

1284
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing. Um, I don't know when's the

1285
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: last time you guys have done that or have done

1286
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: it along? For me, it's been I don't think as

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01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: an adum sup in a Halloween costume and I and

1288
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: I would go and I dress as like you, like

1289
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: the hardy boys and like a flannel. Eric is killing

1290
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: me because I didn't show up to our office dressed

1291
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: in the Halloween costume. But like you're like the only person.

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01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: It was like three people that I've seen walking around

1293
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: in costumes and it's mostly your delightful crowd back there.

1294
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to show up in like a

1295
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 1: ghost out fit or something. Why are you so mad?

1296
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: Because because when I walked into the studio today, the

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: first thing she said was like yuck looking at me,

1298
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's an hr by the way,

1299
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: I know, but you don't tell I understand that I'm

1300
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: a guy, so you can say whatever you want to me,

1301
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: but you don't tell another human being yuck at that.

1302
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: But it wasn't a about you. That's what you said

1303
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: after the effect. But that's not my I wasn't my experience.

1304
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: It's not like we turned and looked at you and

1305
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: we're like, it wasn't a we thing. It was you.

1306
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't know who we is. What did you dress

1307
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: up as Brooks Brothers because that's what you look like.

1308
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: You just went to the outlet Erica is refashioning. Uh

1309
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: the what happened there? Anyway? I am. I'm checking Amazon

1310
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: right now because I'm going to be Vincent Vega when

1311
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: he had to get rid of his clothes and I

1312
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: put on the U S Santa Cruz banana slug T

1313
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: shirt with the blue shorts. Um, but wait, will she

1314
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: be Samuel Jackson or I don't think that would be smart. Um,

1315
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: So he's gonna stay away from the Samuel Jackson. Uh, Marcel,

1316
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: what was what was Jackson's character? And that was Vincent

1317
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: Vega and uh, I don't know why I'm not Bana. Anyway,

1318
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: the Santa Cruz Banana slug t shirt is scheduled to

1319
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: arrive Saturday at seven pm. So that's right on the nose.

1320
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: So you know, let's hope that works out. That's the

1321
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: Jets with their little basketball tournament right there. Yes, Mark's

1322
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: trying to get uh, you know, your poor wife like

1323
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: put on social media like I'm just saying they were

1324
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: paired together in the film. But that that I understand.

1325
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: All right, Let's where were we Washington at Denver. I'm

1326
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: picking this never never was in a Halloween costume once

1327
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: in his whole life. That's my prediction. You were born

1328
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: at age thirty two, so you missed the childhood. I

1329
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: was in Halloween costumes up until the same age as

1330
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: everyone as a child, and I did go to multiple

1331
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: whatever thirteen or fourteen. What's one thing. There's that one

1332
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: year where you were like the people giving you the

1333
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: candy start looking at you side eye, being like, come on,

1334
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: you're a little too old. But I went you dressed

1335
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: up as a as a youth. I was gonna say,

1336
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: I did Abraham Lincoln in New York I grew the

1337
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: beard for it. Um, you know, that's what I'm saying.

1338
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: I went to I went to some in my twenties

1339
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: in New York. I think I grew a beard for

1340
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: the Red Sox two thousand for playoff run, and then

1341
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: I shaved it down to the Abraham Lincoln and that

1342
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: was an outfit, so I did. Lincoln was the tallest president, right,

1343
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: so you know, it's kind of funny when a little

1344
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: short how tall? How tall would that make him? I

1345
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: think he was which in eighteen sixties or whatever, it

1346
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: was a giant straight up. Jules Winfield was the name

1347
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: of Samuel Jackson's character. I don't think people have changed

1348
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: that much. There were six ft Broncos and football team

1349
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: fans are like talk about have you ever been to

1350
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field Fenway Park? The size of those seats. I

1351
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: guess Americans have gotten broad. I think they've gotten broad,

1352
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: but I think they've gotten processed food from age four on. Yeah,

1353
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: of course, the entire the entire human population has gotten taller.

1354
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm just saying that there were It

1355
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: wasn't like he was this um at six ft four,

1356
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: six ft five. No one had seen that before, but

1357
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: it was you have to us for height inflation. Dan's right,

1358
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: it was different. I like the show when Greg starts

1359
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: a green with Dan on something that I said, just

1360
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: as to your about the truth. Uh, let's say, all right,

1361
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: abe Lincoln was six four, George Washington was six too.

1362
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 1: That's a nice size as well. That's also from ancient

1363
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: And then let's just say you have a tall yeah,

1364
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: tall people. Trump was six three. I mean so yeah,

1365
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: all right, oh people, men in their six foot region

1366
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: have been around for hundreds you know, get advantages like

1367
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: you can basically choose who's going to be like the

1368
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: CEO or whatever, just based on height and like facial structure.

1369
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: Biden is Joe Biden height. It's it's prejudice against the

1370
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: little men like me, the last like short president. That's

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01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: you got to go back a little bit. Clinton is

1372
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: not a tall guy. Is hel Denver? And Washington what

1373
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 1: a game. I honestly came out of watching the Washington

1374
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay game thinking that Washington's offense, you know that

1375
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: all the red zone meltdowns were totally fun to watch.

1376
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: And Taylor Heineke like the it's the mobility and he's

1377
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: just completely unconcerned with just whipping the ball down field.

1378
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: I like this something. I like this idea of them,

1379
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, battling tall presidents here a bunch of tall

1380
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. But uh, the Broncos were just a hot

1381
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: mess and everything that you hired Vic Fongio for does

1382
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: not make any sense right now. They're, what the highest

1383
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: paid defense playing like the fifth worst unit in football.

1384
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: Have a good time with that. People from Denver. They

1385
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: are there twenty six in d v O A, and

1386
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: they've played easiest schedule, so they've played pretty That's where

1387
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: the three and o start came from, right but that

1388
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: they they But even since then, it's not like every

1389
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: week it's been a juggernaut. It's been the Browns with

1390
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: case Keenum and I know only seventeen points went on

1391
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: the board there, but they could not get a stop.

1392
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: I mean they they basically were steam rolled by case Keenum.

1393
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: They were steam rolled by the Raiders, they were pretty

1394
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: steamrolled by the Steelers. It's crazy how disappointing they've been

1395
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: on defense. This is kind of their last stand. I

1396
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: think if you lose to Washington at home, to fall

1397
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,440
Speaker 1: to three and five, it just starts to feel very hopeless,

1398
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure out why are they

1399
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: so bad? They have no pass rush, but their linebackers

1400
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: have been decimated by injury. Where they're trading for Kenny

1401
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: Young from the Rams. They've been down a fifth and

1402
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: sixth linebackers, And it's become really cool to say, like, oh,

1403
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: off ball linebackers don't really matter. We're not gonna spend

1404
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: any resources. Watch the Jets lately, Watch the Broncos lately,

1405
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: watch the Eagles lately. Like those teams stink at that

1406
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: position and they're rather not. They're getting flamed by running

1407
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 1: backs and tight ends who just can pick up twelve

1408
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: yards every play if if they want. It's it's sad. Alright, Greg,

1409
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: close out the draft. I will close out the draft,

1410
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: and then we got some more games to get to.

1411
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: But apologies to the Washington Broncos. I'll take the Bills

1412
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: Dolphins early. You should know, Greg, by the way that

1413
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: Benjamin Harrison twenty third President, Martin van Buren, the eighth president.

1414
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: Five six. There we go, shortest President James Madison. I

1415
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: mean people didn't even some sort of a duel with someone.

1416
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we literally had a disabled president and no

1417
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: one knew, so you know they were able to hide things.

1418
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: There wasn't you know what It wasn't as much you

1419
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: refer of course the ad R. Yes, yeah, I'm just

1420
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: saying it's a different different times in a wheelchair they

1421
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: kept it away from We are not certain like half

1422
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,839
Speaker 1: of them even existed. There's a lot of didn't exist.

1423
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, like you don't think Benjamin Harrison existed.

1424
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: I am sure. I'm not saying all of them this

1425
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: all right here, we some president exists. I'm not saying

1426
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: that all presidents didn't exist, just some that's that's possible.

1427
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. All right, go ahead, this is a big game.

1428
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: I know that the Bills are thirteen and a half

1429
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: point favorites. I am interested in this Dolphins team just

1430
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: because they're at an inflection point before this trade deadline.

1431
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: If they get blown out by the Bill. Sean McDermott's

1432
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: absolutely owned Brian Flores. They've won five straight games. The

1433
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: the average margin of victories outrageous. They're averaging way over

1434
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: thirty points. So this is a problem going back to

1435
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: even if they get blown out right before the trade deadline,

1436
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: you just you just wonder what's gonna happen. I've been

1437
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: really impressed by to a as like a man, as is,

1438
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: like the way that he's handled this him answering those

1439
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: questions this week. I was impressed by like he's handled

1440
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: this situation with a lot more class and grace than

1441
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 1: the organization he plays for. And he's improving. I'm not

1442
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be like a great quarterback, but for

1443
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: a guy that's only started like six more games than

1444
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I do think he takes in an inordinate

1445
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: amount of criticism for a guy who looks pretty good.

1446
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: He's limited athletically, he has a lower ceiling than you

1447
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 1: would like at a top five pick, but he's playing

1448
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: pretty well. I think that's in highly on the organization

1449
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: though too, just the way and you may agree or

1450
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: disagree with how they handle it last year with Fitzpatrick

1451
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: because they were trying to make the playoffs, but by

1452
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: taking him in and out of the lineup, and then

1453
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: as soon as this season rolls around, we keep hearing

1454
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: about the Shawn Watson. Of course we're going to view

1455
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: him as a guy that's on, you know, the hot

1456
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: seed before he deserves to be that just the way

1457
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: it's been that's on the organization. Do you think also,

1458
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: because I think he's he is growing, but that's not

1459
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: enough today from quarterbacks, like you need these plays, these

1460
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: wow plays, these physical moments that Kyler Murray gives you,

1461
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert gives you that, Patrick Mahomes gives you

1462
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: and you don't to H. But do you need that?

1463
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: I do think you. I think one actually like young quarterbacks,

1464
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: especially when the organization is saying, hey, we have a

1465
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: continuous wandering eye. Other mac Jones is not going to

1466
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: give you those plays, but he's showing you more and

1467
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots feel good about that pig. Yeah, okay, I

1468
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: mean I'm saying I'm not saying it's everyone, but you're

1469
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: knowing to a kind of just like should be Like

1470
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: that's what you think perfect world to H was gonna

1471
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: be like a Drew Breese ish quarterback. That's who he

1472
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: was compared to. And you think about Breeze as a

1473
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: young player bench for Doug Flutie. His ownership hated him,

1474
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, like a guy who because he was short

1475
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 1: and because he didn't have a big arm, and because

1476
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: his advantages took a little while to show up and

1477
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: he had good moments early too, better better than to

1478
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: A start, Like you just don't totally see it. So

1479
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: I do think to A could be better as like

1480
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: a four or five year veteran than he is right now.

1481
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. And he he has played better

1482
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: in these last two weeks. He Yeah, he has these

1483
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: bad turnovers that kind of mar his games. But again,

1484
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: to the point he's barely played at the NFL. Still,

1485
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: you gotta give him the rope to understand that stuff.

1486
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: He could work through and hopefully get out of that funk.

1487
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: He might not ever, he might always be that mistake

1488
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: prone guy. But I've I feel like you've seen enough

1489
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: Uh in his limited play to to continue to investigate

1490
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: him as your quarterback when the alternative in the widely

1491
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: you know, speculated situation here is that you would dump

1492
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: to A and bring in this guy that has all

1493
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: sorts of hideous allegations around him. It's like, is that

1494
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: is a movie you really want to make right now now?

1495
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: To ah if doing in the off season. That's what

1496
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: I've been saying is, don't think that's what's gonna happen.

1497
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: I still feel like all the reporting I still feel

1498
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: like this is gonna end up not happening before the deadline,

1499
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll have to do an emergency pot

1500
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: if it does. But um, potentially, But I just think like,

1501
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: you gotta let this kid finish the season. And if

1502
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: that means you miss out on Deshaun Watson, well that's

1503
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: the way it is. And guess what, it's probably the

1504
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: best thing you could do morally anyway. So I think

1505
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: this is a tough spot though, because he's gone against

1506
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: two of the worst defenses in the league that he

1507
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: looked pretty good against and still made some big mistake.

1508
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: Now you gotta play this cohesive Bills team. He's a

1509
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: little angry. He's coming off of Bye who they were

1510
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: embarrassed defensively late in that game because they're just not

1511
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: used to giving up drives like they did. Like, this

1512
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: is a tough spot. And the Dolphins defense is equally

1513
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: or worse, you know, um struggling compared to their offense,

1514
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: Like third down regression has hit them. Art if they

1515
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: lose my third year forty, you could just see the

1516
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: owner doing something. And also there have been there aren't

1517
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: many in division matchups that have been more uneven than

1518
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo in Miami. I mean, they wiped them out. They've

1519
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: wiped them out under Sean like McDermott's like entire reign there,

1520
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: And I don't trust a team more in the NFL

1521
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: right now to bounce back from bad loss by week

1522
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: in this situation, the bum it's fair to point out

1523
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: these two guys who are hired around the same time.

1524
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, McDermott was a couple of years earlier, but

1525
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: their defensive coaches and Brian Flores' defense is terrible right now,

1526
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: and his history of hiring coaches who he's cycled through

1527
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: has not been great, whereas McDermott seems like he has

1528
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: a very cohesive group who loves working there. All right,

1529
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we'll finish out Week eight.

1530
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's quickly hit these last three games. We

1531
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: have the Philadelphia Eagles traveling to Ford Field to face

1532
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: the lines the Eagles. You know, it is a great,

1533
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: a great stat and we've kind of mentioned it at

1534
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: times on this show, how the Eagles offense does not

1535
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: pass the I test when you actually watched these games

1536
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: in a lot of situations, Uh, they are getting kind

1537
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: of getting beat up badly, and then they have some

1538
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: late scores to make it look better. This from I

1539
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: was gonna say Road a World, but it's NBC Sports Edge.

1540
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: But I actually, when I sent in this little nug

1541
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: within my power rankings this week, I purposely put Road

1542
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: to World and guess what the editors did that They

1543
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: change it to NBC Sports Age. Anyway, Jalen Hurts has

1544
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: scored forty three point four percent of his fantasy points

1545
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of this season. And that's not

1546
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: like wow, when they've been, you know, winning dramatically. It's

1547
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of it's been your down twenty eight to

1548
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: seven in the fourth quarter and you end up losing

1549
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: seven to twenty one or something. So I'm not totally

1550
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: into this experience with Hurts right now. And I'll say

1551
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,440
Speaker 1: this as well. So they trade Flacco, they get Siriani,

1552
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: gets um Gardner Minshew. He's talking him up this week

1553
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: that he's a guy that they trust to move up

1554
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: to the number two. And it just it would not

1555
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: be entirely shocking if Minshew gets playing time this year

1556
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: to me Um, because they might want to juice the

1557
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: offense a little bit when the game stills in hand

1558
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: and uh, I feel like Hurts is on um, you know,

1559
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: he he could be in trouble here. I think you're right.

1560
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: If they lose to the Lions, I think that change

1561
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: could happen sooner than than you would expect. Yeah, I

1562
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: mean they're like our friend of the show, bow Wolf.

1563
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: I believe mentioned that he thought the same thing that

1564
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Minshew at some point. That trade seems

1565
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: strange when they made it, but it starts to make

1566
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: a lot more sense. And they've trailed the Raiders Tampa Bay,

1567
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Dallas each each of those guys by nineteen

1568
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: or more points in games before and some of them

1569
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: storming be in Carolina, the one to Gage now fair

1570
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: to be fair, he had he played great in a

1571
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: comeback win there, but that even that game they were

1572
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: down big. I yeah, I mean it's a it's a

1573
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: season long evaluation. But their defense has been a total mess.

1574
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, you know, came out this week and he

1575
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: openly based openly questioned like new coordinator Jonathan Gannon's schemes,

1576
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: saying it's not been aggressive, and it hasn't been. They

1577
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 1: allowed Derek Cardix complete his throws the last four winning

1578
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks against him of complete completed eight plus. That's not

1579
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: that to me was one of the bigger stories of

1580
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: the week that slipped under the radar because the Eagles

1581
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: are no longer an interesting team. Cox, Fletcher Cox flamed

1582
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: his coaches immediately after the game. I mean he's straight

1583
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: up flamed them. And that is a tenure veteran, one

1584
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: of the great Eagles in their franchise history, who's won

1585
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. And some of these guys who were around

1586
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: when they won the Super Bowl are thinking Jason Kelsey

1587
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: almost retired, thinking we came back for this. It seems

1588
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: like some bad vibes with the coaching staff and the

1589
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: players right now. And if they somehow lost to the Lions.

1590
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think based on what you

1591
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: just explained, Um, do you think that if the head

1592
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: cock coach got in front of the team and started

1593
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: making a a strained flower we're a metaphor, that it

1594
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: would go over well play it, Ricky, No, No, you

1595
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: know the results aren't there right now. But what's going

1596
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: on here is is that there's growth under the soil.

1597
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: I put a picture of a flower up right, and

1598
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: that it's and it's coming through the ground and the

1599
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: roots are growing out, and the roots and the roots

1600
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: are continue to grow, and everybody wants to see results. Shoot,

1601
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: we want nobody wants to see results more than us, right,

1602
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: we want to see results too. But it's really important

1603
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: that that the foundation is being built and that the

1604
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 1: roots are growing out. And the only way the roots

1605
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: grow out every single day and they grow stronger and

1606
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: they grow, they grow better. Is this that we all

1607
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: put our we all water, we all fertilize, we all

1608
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: do our part, each each individual, each individuals, each individual player,

1609
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: each other. I think there's a lot of fertilizing going

1610
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: on on the Eagles offense, I'll put it that way.

1611
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 1: There's there's been plenty of fertilizer involved with the defense

1612
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 1: has been worse to me too. Those stage of fertilized

1613
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: like they have, they have talent, it he they are

1614
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: being tested and I can just imagine guys like Cox

1615
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: listening in Kelsey and Derek Burnett listening to this mess

1616
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: terious slay they got. They gotta win this game. Lemon

1617
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: level I rolls. They need to win. The vibes are

1618
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: bad and the blow up there could be you know,

1619
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: they got to win some games. The fertilizer, by the way,

1620
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: that's what's it. And one of the power rankings. I

1621
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: got the lines of oh and seven. But fighting hard

1622
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: every week. This feels like they're winning this game. I'm

1623
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: with you. Should we lock it up together? No, but

1624
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: I agree Rams at Texans. The Texans are the worst

1625
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: team in football. They are thirty two in the Power rankings.

1626
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: The Rams this is I mean, this feels like a

1627
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: walk in the park. Just stay healthy, get your three

1628
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: touchdown win and say goodbye. Mark. I do want to

1629
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: see if there's a chance we get Tyrod Taylor just

1630
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 1: because they were like every number suggests they were so

1631
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: much spice here with him in the lineup. He's back

1632
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: at practice, but sound you know what, it sounds like

1633
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: one more week just because he's not getting the starters reps.

1634
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: But I think he might play again. I think, like

1635
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: even last week with Detroit doing all their trickery, enjoyable

1636
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: chicanery to the Rams, they still before halftime put together

1637
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: these ten eleven and Levin play touchdown drives were Stafford

1638
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: finished like seventeen for twenty three with a hundred and

1639
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: sixty six yards two touchdowns. It's hard to evaluate who

1640
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: the Rams are with the last couple of teams. They're

1641
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: on this tour of the Patsy Giants, Lions, Texans. Yeah,

1642
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, but but they've been she lacking them and

1643
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: I view them as a fairly unstoppable passing game. They're

1644
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,839
Speaker 1: they're like Stafford has done, He's made less sneed Executive

1645
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: of the year. I thought that was his best game

1646
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: against the Lions and nose against the linesman in terms

1647
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: of the quality of the throws and the decisions that

1648
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: he makes. And they were actually putting a tough spot offensively,

1649
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: they barely got the ball, they were facing a big

1650
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 1: and yeah they should row. And they move on to

1651
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: seven and one, feeling good about them. And finally the

1652
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: Jacksonville yea you are is coming off there By week

1653
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 1: after that win in London on the last second field

1654
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: goal to beat, the Dolphins travel to Seattle to face

1655
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Now this game here, Mark, you have forked

1656
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks up. Gino. This is your last chance. This

1657
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance here Greg because he has

1658
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: flopped here as their backup. I'm sorry, um, this could

1659
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: be it for Gino. This could be his last NFL

1660
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: start and in a lot of ways. Maybe that would

1661
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: be the old for the amount of time we've had

1662
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: to talk about Gino Smith on this podcast unnecessarily. Maybe

1663
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: the penance is that you must lock Gino Smith up

1664
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: at home about I mean too. It would really validate

1665
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: has gone undefeated against the spread this year in tough situations,

1666
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: covered both times against really good coin flips, all those

1667
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: coin flips, great coin flips. His PFF grade this year

1668
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: higher and Jared Goff, Sam Donald, Ben Roethlisberger, Zach Wilson,

1669
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Taylor Heineke, Trevor Lawrence, justin Field. So this

1670
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: is guy. This guy needs to come out here and

1671
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: compete and beat the compet let him, let him beat

1672
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: beat the jaggon we way, this is a game about coaching,

1673
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: because they have enough talent, and they got to let

1674
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: Gino throw the ball a little more. And they've looked

1675
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: a little better defensively since they've gotten rid of tree

1676
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: flowers and they got the six dB look. And Brooks

1677
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 1: and Wagon win this game, big. I think they think

1678
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: the Jaggers might win this game, and I think Gino

1679
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: and them are going to lock it up. You really

1680
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: should it only it's only fair. I would be a

1681
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: moment of total power. And I don't like moving. I

1682
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: hate changing decisions on anything. It always seems like it's

1683
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: a bad move to change decisions I got I have.

1684
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: I do have a weird feeling that Lawrence is gonna

1685
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: light up the Seahawks. We'll fire one off to mom

1686
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: Adams face masks at some point. He won't be perfect,

1687
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 1: but he will move the ball against Seattle and score points.

1688
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: And then you need Gino to score points and that's

1689
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: just not a given since he's taken over. Uh, they

1690
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: are not on first or second, Greg. You keep saying that,

1691
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: but there may be reasons why they're not allowing that

1692
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: to happen. Also, But I I I'm in a tough

1693
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: place with Gino Smith because I discovered during research this

1694
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: week that we share the same birthday. Libre power. So

1695
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't matter. Well, it matters to me,

1696
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: I know it clearly doesn't matter to you. I mean, well,

1697
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: I honestly can tell you you care about Baker Mayfield

1698
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: and the ranking right near Patrick Mahomes and the pf gades. Wow,

1699
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a list of like eighteen quarterbacks that

1700
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: Greg loves. They're all his babies. All right, there you go.

1701
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: That is week eight. Yes again, Thursday night football recap.

1702
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss a Packers Cardinals. Oh

1703
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: the game of the Center. I can't believe how that

1704
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: one played out. It hasn't happened yet, but I'm sure

1705
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: it was incredible. And Greg and maybe Claibon have the

1706
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: analysis or maybe me. You just never know that fact.

1707
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: Should I text them? Now? You want to call him?

1708
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: I put him on speaker, give him a call. All right?

1709
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: There we go for it. Can you do that, Ricky?

1710
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: We don't have like a phoner here. Just just call

1711
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: him and just put him on speaker and just if

1712
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: I could start the convo or you could start it.

1713
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 1: It's up to you. Okay, I think Dan should but

1714
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: on Greg's phone, Yeah, definitely coming from Greg. Yeah, and

1715
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: you wanna you want to say it? I just wanna.

1716
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: I think maybe it would be better for me as

1717
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: a third party to make sure hopefully he picks up.

1718
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: Let's see. Yeah, put that right now there, go straight

1719
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: to voicemail. It's like it went straight immediately, so you

1720
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: knew that he clicked it. The dismiss that was the

1721
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: dismiss Should I leave a message? Yeah, all right, to

1722
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: make sure that I gotta keep that phone infote private.

1723
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: That's just such a Do you think that maybe it's

1724
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: he did that on purpose? The well, what he's gonna

1725
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: be there now? No, he's gone, you know, right? All right, Well,

1726
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: let's hope he's there Patrick Clayban, who does excellent work

1727
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: for us whenever he's on the show. Uh, and then

1728
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: we'll be back the television show, which is doing big numbers,

1729
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: like crazy numbers. I just got some actually from Stephen

1730
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: Manny and Research and Grave Digger gave me some of

1731
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: the data and some of the biggest numbers that you

1732
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: would imagine for a show that airs originally at four

1733
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: AM on the West Coast. I want to be more surprised,

1734
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: But I I know how the show works, I know

1735
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: who's on it. Um, I understand what we're competing against.

1736
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: Its feels like a home run. Alright, good, So check

1737
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: that out on NFL Networks at your DVRs. And then,

1738
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: of course, yes, the flagship show where we recap every

1739
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: game we just previewed here drops Sunday nights, so make

1740
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: sure to be there for that Halloween night. But we

1741
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 1: have to come up with our Halloween names. Remember we

1742
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: used to do that. We can't just use those same

1743
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: ones that became up. Remember Crypt Westling, what was yours?

1744
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: I was Dan Hanging Dark Dark Settler with the sea.

1745
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: Of course, Greg was Goola. We need ones for Ricky Hollywood. Oh,

1746
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood Forever Cemetery. It wow, it's a good one.

1747
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, all right, let's go. Dan Hanson

1748
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm. I really wish Patrick picked

1749
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 1: up there because we would know for sure he's gonna

1750
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: be there. He said, yes, it's very reliable. You're not Storm,

1751
01:28:32,160 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: the old boss Ricky Hollywood. He the call to Pater