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Speaker 2: talk about what just went down to very entertaining week fourteen.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking ahead to Monday night and Thursday Night football.

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Speaker 2: As always, I'm in Hearted's director of the Fantasy Labs,

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Speaker 2: NFL product in Action Network analyst here with me. As

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Speaker 2: always Chris Raybond co hosts About Take That Bet on

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Speaker 2: the ESPN Plus, as well as senior editor and the

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Speaker 2: NFL analysts at Action Network and Fantasy Labs. Chris, what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: What is up?

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Speaker 1: Ian?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 1: It was a very exciting week.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, started with that crazy Derek Henry

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Speaker 3: run and just continuing with some real close games. So

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Speaker 3: excited to talk with You're gonna break it go down?

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Speaker 2: You said it, man, From Derrick Henry to George Kittle

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Speaker 2: to Amari Cooper. We had some truly remarkable fantasy performances

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Speaker 2: and what was the first week of the fantasy playoffs

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Speaker 2: for a lot of people. So we'll get things started

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Speaker 2: with some of our best and worst core plays of

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Speaker 4: Some players pay and some players sleigh who were the

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Speaker 4: bankrel builders and bankroll killers from week fourteen.

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Speaker 2: All right, Chris, hit me with your best play of

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Speaker 1: Definitely Julio Jones.

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Speaker 3: You know, on DraftKings he dropped below eight k I

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Speaker 3: felt like that was just a gimme spot for him,

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Speaker 3: and we ended up with a multi touchdown game, which

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Speaker 3: you don't see very often, so it wasn't even expecting

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Speaker 3: catches against Baltimore. You know, that's a really tough defense to,

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Speaker 3: So try to take advantage of that, and it ended

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Speaker 2: Well for sure. Yeah, my my best player of the

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Speaker 2: week was George Kittle. Yeah. Man, I was just looking

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Speaker 2: at these expensive tight ends. I got burned enough on

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Speaker 2: I was going to try to pay up a little more.

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Speaker 2: But one of the good things in our pro model

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Speaker 2: is this a handy little stack called leverage rating that

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Speaker 2: basically takes Sean Cohner's projections with Adam Levittant's ownership projections

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Speaker 2: So obviously, guys with high ceilings and low ownership are

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Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, I mean we saw the Buccaneers week one

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Speaker 2: We're gonna stay with this game.

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Speaker 1: I'm the trash man.

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Speaker 4: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know it,

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Speaker 1: That'shit you've been told on.

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Speaker 2: How do you like that? Good this week's trash man

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Speaker 2: is Chris Godwin oh Man. He he was on in

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Speaker 2: before Sunday without Deshaun Jackson. He went for ninety eight yards,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, last guy particularly mentioned Cam Braid too, and we're

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Speaker 2: as you know, true number one somewhere else. All right, Now,

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Speaker 1: It, that is a disgusting act.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Joe, the New England Patriots. So I was

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they were a you know, lock in plenty

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Speaker 2: was one of the most outrageous I've ever seen. Man, Chris,

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Speaker 3: Did it, and I was like it was hilarious because

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Speaker 3: I think the funniest thing was definitely Gronk at the end,

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Speaker 1: Would expect a dude's biggest.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's like denied. The Dolphins have some

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Speaker 2: going to take a quick review of the winning Millionaire

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Speaker 2: Maker lineup from CRK three two five zero.

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Speaker 4: Becoming a DFS millionaire. Talk about a dream come true.

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Speaker 4: What Draft Kings lineup lived a Daily Fantasy fantasy this weekend?

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Speaker 2: All right? So, Millionaire Maker was down to the wire

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Speaker 2: literally last play, Dallas Cowboys defeated the photo for Eagles

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Speaker 2: thanks to Mary Cooper's three touchdowns. The last one was

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Speaker 2: the final play of the main slate and it earned

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Speaker 2: CRK three to two, five out one million American dollars.

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Speaker 2: So this lineup had a Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott and

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Speaker 2: other running back was Christian McCaffrey. The other wide receivers

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Speaker 2: Gronkowski and his comeback week, he was actually pretty good

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Speaker 2: other than his misstackle. The flex was Philip Lindsay and

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Speaker 2: the defense was the Giants going up against the infamous

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Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez. Chris thoughts on this million dollar winning lineup.

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Speaker 3: I mean, man, you know that Robert Foster, that's a

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Speaker 3: getting him at two percent own really big. But I'll

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Speaker 3: start with the Dak Zeke Cooper stack because that stack,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you look at Dak Prescott's correlations, if

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Speaker 3: correlated with Zeke at point twenty four. So that was

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Speaker 3: a really good stack against an Eagle defense that's especially

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Speaker 1: You had Zeke, you have McCaffrey, and you have Folte Lindsay.

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Speaker 3: Even all those guys are at least nineteen percent owned,

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Speaker 1: Was a guy that was popping at the top.

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Speaker 3: Of the Fantasy Labs models, and you know, getting him

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Speaker 3: of those good plays. It's crazy that somehow, like you

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Speaker 3: Like that's crazy, Like now that I think about it,

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Speaker 2: So was not the healthiest week here. First one, I'm

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Speaker 2: But you know, we've seen him without Jordan Reid average

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Speaker 3: The only thing you worry about is, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: But I mean Jacksonville, I think is a team that,

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Speaker 3: An offense like the Redskins, if you are going to

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Speaker 2: We've seen Big Man play banged up throughout his entire career.

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Speaker 2: And we didn't see much out of this running game

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Speaker 1: I think the running the ball is not going to.

437
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Speaker 3: Be there unless Connor's back, So I think they're going

438
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Speaker 3: to continue to throw.

439
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Speaker 1: It around back at home.

440
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Speaker 3: It's going to help out because you know, we kind

441
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 3: of continuously see this out of the Steelers when they

442
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Speaker 3: go on the road. I mean, I mean something happens

443
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 3: more often in the in the one o'clock games, but

444
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 3: in general, just on the road, they struggle, usually a

445
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 3: different team at home. Antonio Brown usually plays a lot

446
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 3: better at home. I think he only had five catches

447
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 3: for thirty five yards, so I'm sure Matthew Friedman is

448
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 3: pretty happy about that one.

449
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Speaker 1: You know, Juju Smith Schuster continues to ball.

450
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Speaker 3: I mean, they they hit a hooking ladder late in

451
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Speaker 3: that game where I believe it was James Washington caught

452
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Speaker 3: the ball and Juju Juja almost pulled to Kenyan Drake essentially,

453
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Speaker 3: I mean before they missed that field goal. You know,

454
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Speaker 3: Juju doesn't get I think he got tripped up by

455
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Speaker 3: a defender and ended up going out of the bounds

456
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Speaker 3: and it sets up the winning field goal.

457
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Speaker 1: But I mean, for a second it looked like he

458
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Speaker 1: was gone, and so.

459
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Speaker 3: You know, you still got juju, you still got a

460
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Speaker 3: b I think they'll be fine at home against the Pats. Obviously,

461
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 3: the Pats, uh, you know, struggling a little bit on

462
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Speaker 3: defense themselves, as we saw today.

463
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Speaker 1: So I think Pittsburgh will be fine.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be fine. It is funny how the Raiders

465
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: keep finding a way how to shut down these number

466
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Speaker 2: one wide receivers. Raiders are inexplicably number one in DVOA

467
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: against opposing number one receivers, but they're thirty two in

468
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: past dvoas, so essentially taking away their opponent's number one

469
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 2: and letting this week Juju Smith Schuster. Last week was

470
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 2: Travis Kelce, basically letting anyone other than that number one

471
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: guy rip down the shreds. All right, next injury, we'll

472
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Speaker 2: go over Leshan McCoy. Oh my gosh, I was all

473
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 2: over shady this week in this home spot versus the Jets.

474
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: He had basically two touches before he suffered a hamstring injury,

475
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: left early and did not return. We saw Chris Ivory

476
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: get twelve carries. After this, Marcus Murphy had four and target.

477
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: The interesting part of this was Isaiah McKenzie had four carries,

478
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 2: also had four catches and seven targets, kind of being

479
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 2: used as a kind of running back wide receiver hybrid role.

480
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much we should we should expect

481
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Speaker 2: this to keep moving forward in this Bill's offense, But

482
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Speaker 2: I guess what are your thoughts kind of in general

483
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Speaker 2: with this Bill's offense and how to approach it When

484
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Speaker 2: we got Josh Allen basically running for one hundred plus

485
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Speaker 2: yards every week.

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Speaker 3: I mean like those Bills offense with Josh Allen, I

487
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: think like for fantasy because the whole thing about the Bills,

488
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: especially well DFS especially, it's like so cheap. So I mean,

489
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: now you're gonna have Josh Allen, You're gonna have all

490
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: these cheap receivers that he's throwing deep to. You're gonna

491
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Speaker 3: have a cheap running back. So I mean, I don't

492
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Speaker 3: hate the Bills offense. I think it is a little

493
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Speaker 3: bit gonna it's gonna be tough to predict, you know,

494
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Speaker 3: Zay Jones was kind of coming on these last couple

495
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Speaker 3: of games. We saw Foster have like a couple of

496
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Speaker 3: big games in the last four or five. You mentioned McKenzie,

497
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Speaker 3: I think, uh, they you know, he's probably kind of there.

498
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Speaker 1: I guess Curtis Samuel you would say, or something like that.

499
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 3: So you know, we could see a guy and you know,

500
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen hasn't compared to Cam Newton, not in terms

501
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: of how good he is, but you know, kind of

502
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: the same style of player.

503
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Speaker 1: Big guy runs a little bit.

504
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: So I think you could kind of see that kind

505
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 3: of thing going on for Buffalo, where Allen's going to

506
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Speaker 3: continue to rack up rushing yards.

507
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Speaker 1: It probably isn't gonna be the best thing for.

508
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Speaker 3: The running backs because really their most efficient way I

509
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: think to run is with Josh Allen because your offensive

510
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 3: line has not has not been good this year. I

511
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Speaker 3: forget which I think he was at about three point

512
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 3: three yards or so per Carrie coming into this game.

513
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: So the Bills they're just running it, handing off and

514
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: running not really working out for him. But when Josh

515
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: Allen takes it, you know that that kind of gives

516
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: him a little bit more of an efficient means to

517
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 3: gain yardage on the ground, So I think you're just

518
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: going to continue to see more of the same. You know,

519
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: Allen came into the week averaging six point eight yards

520
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: the Carrie compared to McCoy three point three Ivory three

521
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: point three, So you kind of see the difference right

522
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: there in how how they're going to run offense, and

523
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Speaker 3: I think that's you're just going to kind of see them.

524
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: Like you have to keep getting a look at Josh Allen.

525
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Speaker 3: I would think, like, I know they've been trying to

526
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Speaker 3: limit his attempts, but like why, like why why would

527
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Speaker 3: you even do that? At this point, you just you

528
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: kind of need to see this guy throwing the football

529
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Speaker 3: for you got a really good matchup coming up against

530
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Speaker 3: the Lions. They came into the week ranked thirtieth in

531
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Speaker 3: DVOA against the pass, and they're getting better against the runs,

532
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 3: you know, stopping and running the inside with snacks. So

533
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Speaker 3: I think it'll be another game where he goes on

534
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: a perimeter next week and then finish up against the Patriots,

535
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 3: who we saw today gave up thirty four to the Dolphins.

536
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Speaker 2: That's a good point where it seems like Allen's running

537
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: is really the thing that ignites this offense. And I've

538
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 2: looked at Shady's kind of pass splits before, and we've

539
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: seen him he's been as most efficient always with a

540
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 2: rushing quarterback, whether that be Vic or Tyrod Taylor. You know,

541
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Speaker 2: once you kind of put a more of a pocket

542
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: guy back there, like a Nick Foles or something, he

543
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: just didn't have the same rushlings. I don't think we're

544
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: getting that effect though from a Josh Allen run offense.

545
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: It's is not kind of the same read option type looks.

546
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: I maybe we're seeing from Lamar and like Dak Prescott

547
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: type am or something there.

548
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh definitely, it's definitely a little different. Al though,

549
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Speaker 1: I will say that every week he.

550
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Speaker 3: Seems to to kind of one of his receivers has

551
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: a big game, Like if he continues to hit Robert

552
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: Foster down the field, Z Jones down the field, it

553
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 3: will definitely open things up for him a little bit, because, yeah,

554
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: I don't think defenses are really respecting that pass game yet,

555
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: but he kind of continues to stretch the field deep vertically,

556
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: I think he can kind of hang in there and

557
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: you know, they know what they have to do. They

558
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 3: know they're not going to be a traditional offense. You know,

559
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: Josh Allen still struggling a little bit with the accuracy,

560
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: but definitely I think better than they could have hoped for.

561
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Speaker 3: And for next week if McCoy's out, I think, you know,

562
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 3: Chris Ivory, solid pickup, gonna get some volume.

563
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 1: But again, you know, yards per Carrie might not be there.

564
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: He could be touchdown or bus Marcus Murphy in a

565
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: PPR league perhaps you know, could give you something because

566
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Speaker 3: I think they'll use they would use him as the

567
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: as the passing down back for sure.

568
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Speaker 2: All right, now we're gonna move on to some notable

569
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Speaker 2: standouts disappointments with some workload notes. First things first, Holy

570
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Speaker 2: hell a MARII Cooper. I mean, this guy, since the

571
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Speaker 2: Cowboys obtained him in week nine, the overhaul PPR wide

572
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Speaker 2: receiver one. It's basically like Amari Cooper is reaching his

573
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: ceiling and these five weeks has been with the Cowboys

574
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: and is completely shining. Two hundred and seventeen yards, three touchdowns,

575
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Speaker 2: basically one more or less one the Cowboys NFC East

576
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Speaker 2: today barring a complete collapse. Chris, I mean, are we

577
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Speaker 2: looking at just the next wide receiver one? In Dallas

578
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Speaker 2: for years to come.

579
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Speaker 3: I think if they were smart, they would definitely do that,

580
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: because it's getting to the point where it's not just

581
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Speaker 3: that you have this a guy and Amari Cooper who

582
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: can like your wide receiver one. You know, him and

583
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: Dak seem to have an excellent chemistry, and it seemed

584
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: to happen really quickly. I mean, you know, Mark Cooper,

585
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: we always knew he was a talented guy. Definitely made

586
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 3: some mental mistakes, definitely at the same time, you know,

587
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: Derek Carr probably not the best quarterback for him, not

588
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: a guy that's looking to throw down the field as

589
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: much or looking to hold the ball, while I got

590
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 3: like a Marti Cooper developed, runs his routes and and

591
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: kind of works his way open. So you know, Dak

592
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 3: for you know, it's completely different. It's it's really quicking

593
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 3: for him. So I think Dallas would definitely be smart to.

594
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Speaker 1: Lock him up.

595
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: Gallop having a solid rookie year, not too spectacular, but

596
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: definitely solid enough to warrant at a start next year

597
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: on the outside, So I think you go forward with

598
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: Cooper and Gallop on the outside, try to get a

599
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 3: pass catch at tight end that we did see Blake

600
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Speaker 3: Jarwin have a little bit of a coming out party

601
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: today as well.

602
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that willingness you mentioned to actually kind of throw

603
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: downfield to Cooper I think has been the big difference here.

604
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Speaker 2: I mean, how many games that we have with Cooper

605
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: and car where you just you know, he only had

606
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: one or two catches, but it's only on five targets

607
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: or so. I mean, we've seen Dak consistently just throw

608
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: the ball and he got picked off today trying to

609
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 2: target Cooper to the end zone on one of those plays.

610
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: But he keeps going back to him. He keeps going

611
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: back to him. This is really the first time we've

612
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: ever seen Cooper be that true, true, true number one

613
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: without anyone taking that away from him. With that said, though, Gallop,

614
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not sure if you saw the entire game,

615
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: but that probably could have thrown for over five hundred

616
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: yards if he hit Gallup on a couple of those

617
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: deep balls where he got past his guy. I mean,

618
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: seems like Gallup could actually be I don't know, a

619
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Speaker 2: better number two than Terrence Williams. I don't think that's

620
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: too crazy.

621
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Speaker 1: Oh man.

622
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and remember I think it was the game before

623
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Speaker 3: or the Cowboys game where the Saints game, excuse me,

624
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: where Dak had Gallop open open for a touchdown near

625
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: the end of that game too, and then it's him.

626
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: So it's interesting because and this is why I say,

627
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: you know, lock up them are because for whatever reason,

628
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Dak and Omari's chemistry is on point already. You could

629
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: see it's still a work in progress with Gallop with

630
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: the fact, like you said, he's getting open, you know,

631
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 3: I think it is a positive sign. But here's an

632
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: interesting thing because you kind of mentioned Car too, and okay,

633
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: you know Car. He would have all these kind of

634
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: highs and lows with Car and a lot of times

635
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: wouldn't get many targets. Do you think Car is just

636
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: better when he doesn't have to force a guy the ball?

637
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: Because the Oka Raiders came into this week ranked number

638
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 3: twelve in pass offense DVOA, they were able to win

639
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: the game today. Car twenty five of thirty four, three

640
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty two yards, two touchdowns, zero interception.

641
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to reevaluate my head. My Darren Carr

642
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: is trash stance right now.

643
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: You've gotta be fan of He's gotten it.

644
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: You gotta give him credit for creditors do.

645
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: I think it might just be that, you know, again,

646
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: Car likes to get the ball out quickly. It just

647
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: might be that he's just a better quarterback when it's

648
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: a little bit more wide open, because you notice he's

649
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: kind of going that Cook a lot, but it's not

650
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: necessarily the same thing like going to a tight end.

651
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: Targeting a tight end like the way you target a

652
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: wide receiver, because tight ends a little, you know more

653
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field generally run.

654
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Routes that aren't quite as deep as a wide receiver.

655
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: So I think the fact that you're kind of seeing

656
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: Cook emerge as cars go to Car and.

657
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: He was already the catch reader.

658
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: I know Cooper missed a couple of games, I think

659
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: two or three games last year, but you know, Cook

660
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: was kind of that guy for a while, so it

661
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: might I think it might just be that, like Car,

662
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: Car is just better when he doesn't have an alpha

663
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: wide receiver kind of demanding the bowl.

664
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Speaker 2: I think that makes sense. I think also maybe this

665
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: game particular, we could have seen a decent Car game coming,

666
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: just because I mean, I can't get that stat out

667
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: of my head from the Steelers Chargers game where they

668
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: covered Keenan Allen with a linebacker like on fifteen of

669
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: his targets are something stupid. So I mean, if the

670
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: Raiders did want to play I mean Steelers a run

671
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: a ton of Zonne and all this, it does make

672
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: sense that car could kind of think and dunk his

673
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: way down the field against the team like the Steelers.

674
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt, no doubt.

675
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: And they did come into the game ranked somewhere in

676
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: the bottom against tight ends in DVA. I forget the

677
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: exact I'll look it up, but yeah, it's definitely. It

678
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: was definitely I think a friendly matchup for Car and

679
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: that since they were twenty eight against tight ends in

680
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: DVA cut out one hundred and sixteen yards.

681
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think part of the reason.

682
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: They covered Allen with linebackers, uh well, at least from

683
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: like what Mike Tomlins said, which of course, you know,

684
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: always got to take what these coaches say.

685
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: With grand Sell.

686
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: But Cam Sutton and I think it was Morgan Vernett

687
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: or one of their other dimebacks were out, so essentially

688
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: they didn't really have a lot of bodies in that game,

689
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: so you know, I know that played into it as well,

690
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, I.

691
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: Mean, Pittsburgh on the road too, is struggles.

692
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: But got to give got to give car some credit

693
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: because even the season one metrics are kind of there

694
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: for for Oakland, and they played about forty percent of

695
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: the games thirty three or forty or so tent of

696
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: their games now without Cooper.

697
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he went to eighty five yards three

698
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: touchdowns week before against the Chiefs, Derek Carr playing some

699
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: good ball and uh, credit to you, Derek. Okay, now

700
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna take out another great quarterback offense, the Giants.

701
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: We're looking at the same Kwon Barkley show. Now that

702
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: OBJ his quad hurt, so he wasn't able to suit

703
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: up today. But all right, so we saw basically Washington

704
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: team that seemingly gave up on their season. So keep

705
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: that in mind. But Saquon went off for one hundred

706
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: and seventy yards rushing in a touchdown, another twenty seven

707
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: yards receiving. I mean this guy right now, twenty five

708
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: point six PPR points per game. That's the highest average

709
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: in NFL history among rookie running backs. There's not even

710
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: your Gail Sayers from the sixties that is better. Saquan

711
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: is literally having the best rookie season we have ever

712
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: seen from a running back. Chris, we had a fantasy

713
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: draft tomorrow for the rest of the season with Saquan

714
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: be the number one pick off the board.

715
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: Yes, because he's doing this with this offense.

716
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: Like I want to say, Todd Gurley still and I think,

717
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: honestly it's probably a toss up. But the fact that

718
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: Gurley did it once McVeigh came and got you know,

719
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: GoF got right, and they got the offense humming and

720
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: Gurley he benefits from that because he scores unbelievable amounts

721
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: of Touchdowqon is doing all this with Elon Manning, with

722
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: the ghost of Elon Manning and really no offensive line.

723
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm tired of hearing these commentators complain about

724
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: Saquon or even I think the I think it's coming

725
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: from a coaching staff, msel, but you know, complaining about

726
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: Saquon that he that he's trying to go take every

727
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: run to the house.

728
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Like that, Like like the average run in the NFL

729
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: is four point two or four point three, depending on

730
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: what season you're looking at, right, like you should be

731
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: looking to take every run to the house like like

732
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: like the difference between getting like, you know, zero yards

733
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: or two yards.

734
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: Like I you know, I get it, Like you'd want

735
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: to have a you know, early down success, uh, and

736
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: you want to keep it ahead of the change.

737
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: But like the.

738
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: Frequency at which you're going to get stuffed for losses,

739
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: even if you are kind of that bounced outside back,

740
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: is not going to be much different from what it

741
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: would be like, it's still going to be in within

742
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: a certain range of plays. It's not like you're gonna

743
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: get stuffed on like fifty percent of your runs or

744
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: anything like crazy like that. So it's like you should

745
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: be looking at bust long runs to the house because

746
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: those are going to so outweigh those negative ones or

747
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: zeros or whatever they're complaining about.

748
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saquon leads the league in fifty plus yard touchdowns.

749
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: Maybe we shouldn't be complaining when the guy's trying to

750
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: make an extra thing or two happen. And I mean

751
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: I get it. I mean he's been kind of doing

752
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: it since Penn State. You see these games where you know,

753
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: he has a huge run and then he take his

754
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: you know, other fifteen cares. He's only gained twenty five yards,

755
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: but I think he has even gotten better at that

756
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: as the season's gone on. You know, when there is

757
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: only a couple of yards, they're lower your shoulder and

758
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: just go get the three yards. But you know, if

759
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: you got a home run hitter, let the guys swing

760
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: for the fences. Don't try to Occurtai all that. So

761
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: let's assume OBJ happens to miss this next game here

762
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: against Tennessee. I mean, we know Barkley's RB one. What

763
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: are you thinking here about this Giants receiving corps with

764
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: the one game out, we saw Shepard kind of be

765
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: the wide receiver one, but Coleman and some of these

766
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: other guys are still playing involved.

767
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, you know, I think Tower and Shepherd

768
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: each cut one ball and it was for a touchdown.

769
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: I think Coleman though, let him in yard. Those three

770
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: guys yards with forty two catches for forty.

771
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: Three, so I think they want to see more of Coleman,

772
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: so I think he would stay involved if Beckham was out. Ideally,

773
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: Beckham would be back because Tennessee has actually came into

774
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: the week number thirty two in d v A against

775
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: number one wide out, but they are number four at

776
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: defending backs out of the backfield, so Tennessee the matchup

777
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: actually would set up well for OBJ, but you know,

778
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: we've seen sa Quon kind of do it pretty much

779
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: against any defense.

780
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I think it's it's going to continue.

781
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: To be Shephard, you know, but he's not a He's

782
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: just not been a downfield guy really for the Giants

783
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: this season. I think that's kind of hindering his numbers

784
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 3: at times, is that he's usually that slot receiver for Eli.

785
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: You know, Eli not really being able to hang in

786
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: there long and not willing either, and they are kind

787
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: of making it work.

788
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: You know, elis come. You know, it's completion percentages up,

789
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: he's thrown touchdown. So I think you're going to continue

790
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: to see to see more of the same. But that's

791
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: not necessarily great for like these Sterling Shepherd blow up games,

792
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: because his average depth of target is nine point two,

793
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: and you know that's you know, Coleman's up at thirteen rush,

794
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: Shepherd's at seventeen point two. Beckham was at twelve point three,

795
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: So you know, Shepherd's kind of about three yards behind

796
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: a lot of the other these other key guys on

797
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: the Giants, and in terms of target depth, he has

798
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: to do more work after the catch up.

799
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: He's going to have these blow.

800
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: Ups, all right. Another offense that has been humming lately,

801
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns and Baker Mayfield. They won three or

802
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: four games.

803
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: The Cleveland Browns have won another football game.

804
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: Defense. You know, they played the Texans last week. Kind

805
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: of got woken up a little bit there, had a

806
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: better matchup at this time around. But hey, Mayfield is

807
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: playing and he's feeling dangerous since he told reporters that

808
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: he woke up feeling dangerous, completing seventy five percent of

809
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: his passes nine point nine nine yards for a time,

810
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: nine touchdowns, three picks, making everyone that gave him the

811
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: Drew Brees comparison at least look smart. For this short

812
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: period of time, we've seen Jarvis Landry balling out more,

813
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb doing his thing. Chris, I mean, the Browns

814
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: look like they're for real. What do you think?

815
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean it's amazing what a coach will do, huh,

816
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: or just the lack of a one of those additional

817
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: vice attraction things maybe whatever it is.

818
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: The removal of a coach. Freddy Kitchens.

819
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, But I mean, you know, I don't

820
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: know if you saw hard Knocks earlier this year, but

821
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: it seemed like when whoever.

822
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: Was on you Jackson's staff, essentially, it was like talking

823
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: to a wall because I think it opened I think

824
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: the first seat, or maybe it was one of the

825
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 3: first I don't know if it was the first episode,

826
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: but one of the shows kind of at the beginning

827
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: was showing Jackson discussing I think it was like having

828
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: guys sit out of practice even though they were healthy,

829
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: and he.

830
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: Got caught off by Greg Warrem and he was like, look,

831
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: this is just a decision I needed to kind.

832
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Of, He's like, this is what we're going to do.

833
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: Like everyone made really good points to the contrary and

834
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: likes like Jackson gun responds like, Okay, thank you guys

835
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: for making your points. You guys all might really get points. Ever,

836
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: gonna do exactly what I said. I said anything like

837
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 3: that was exactly how that went. So I don't know

838
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 3: if if Kitchens or anyone else throughly had much much input.

839
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: So you know, credit to him as well. You know.

840
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: The one thing is they are spreading the ball around more.

841
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: You're seeing Landry is target share since week nine nineteen percent.

842
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: That's down, you know, Tyra Taro was targeting him on

843
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: well over a quarter of his throws earlier in the year,

844
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: and you know, even through the first half of the season,

845
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: Landry had a pretty huge target share, but that's kind

846
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: of come down in the second half of the season.

847
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 3: You're seeing Nu Joku kind.

848
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: Of fade a little bit too, though. That's kind of

849
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: hurting Joku as well.

850
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 3: You know, Ni Joke, who Cowaway, Duke Johnson, Chubb, Higgins,

851
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: A bunch of these guys kind of in that that

852
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: ten percent, eight you know, eight to twelve percent, thirteen

853
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: percent target share range. So it makes it really difficult

854
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: on a weekly basis for fantasy to kind of to

855
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: target any of these receivers outside of Landry. You know,

856
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: Chubb continues to be used in a passing game. I

857
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: think that's a huge positive for him and his value.

858
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: He's been extremely consistent getting into the end zone almost

859
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 3: every week. And I think Chubb, Mayfield, Landry are kind

860
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: of the only guys we can really depend on at

861
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: this point.

862
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: I mean, do you do what do you think about

863
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: anything these other Cleveland pass catchers.

864
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: Man, I was on Antonio Callaway after last week. You know,

865
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: he had two seventy yard touchdowns in one drive called back.

866
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he could do a little something more

867
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: this week, but that didn't work out. I think he

868
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: nailed it though, Like Landry is that number one guy,

869
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: and we saw them feed him the ball and rush attempts.

870
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Today he tried to throw a pass. It seemed like

871
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: Kitchens went out of his way to kind of get

872
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: Landry those extra targets and really be the guy for them.

873
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, behind that, I mean there's upside there.

874
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: Calloway's got speed. We've seen the Joku basically flying to

875
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: the end zone from the five yard line before Duke

876
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: Johnson still sitting on the bench, which I think just

877
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: I think it's just good because it helps the overall

878
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: upside of the offense. But as far as fantasy goes, yeah,

879
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: I don't know who to touch besides Chub, Baker and Landry.

880
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how good is Chubb?

881
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: I mean Chubb is because Duke Johnson I think he

882
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: you know, he had like a couple of these splash

883
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: games when he actually got usage, and he's right back

884
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: to just playing a bit role.

885
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: And it's because Chubb is so.

886
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: Good that you don't really want to take him off

887
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: the field, and you just feel like, hey, might as

888
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: well just throw to him, leave him on the field.

889
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: So he's really gonna he's gonna be up there in

890
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: Fantasy DAFT next year as well.

891
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure where that rumor got started that

892
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: Chubb's minus out of the backfield, but that guy is

893
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: a legit weapon in the past game. I think once

894
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: they saw that, they just said, sorry, Duke, but man,

895
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to hate on Duke, the free Duke Johnson.

896
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: That that guy deserves to be a RB one somewhere

897
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: at some point, So I hope Duke gets his opportunity

898
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: down the road. All right, Now, we're gonna take a

899
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: look at Monday Night football featuring the Vikings and Seahawks.

900
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: This game will be in Seattle over under at forty

901
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: six points. The Seahawks open as minus three and a

902
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: half point favorites. That's moved down to minus three. All right,

903
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna start with the visitors. Vikings pass offense obviously

904
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: flows through Adam Thielen Stefan Diggs. Earlier in the season,

905
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: feeling was a clear cut number one, but as the

906
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: year has gone on, I think we've seen that more

907
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 2: or less one a one B any given week type

908
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: of rotation kind of come to fruition. So my thoughts

909
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: on the Seattle defense, I know they ranked well in

910
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: past dboa that they've played well all season. Obviously, their

911
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: run first offense kind of helps play into that. But

912
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: they remind me of the Texans and that they're a

913
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: good defense. But I'm not buying their cornerbacks as being

914
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: difference makers, and I think a good pair of receivers

915
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: like this can take advantage of them.

916
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: Don't be trying to knock in a cheap shot him

917
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: off Texans just because they took it out today.

918
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: Man, I still got them at sixteen to one for

919
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Man with the Texans, man another one

920
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: going to get rid of now, I agree.

921
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: I think you know, Seattle definitely has trouble on the

922
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: outside at the cornerback position. They're able to make up

923
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: for it with good situation play, and that is going

924
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: to probably come into play against Minnesota because Minnesota has

925
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: been average on third downs, they haven't been particularly good

926
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: in the red zone. So I think you know that

927
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: it's going to kind of come down to that kind

928
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: of those kind of plays when you talk about deciding this.

929
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: But the targets are going to be there. I think

930
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: for feeling, they're going to be there. For Diggs, Diggs

931
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: is what is he on draftings? He's one thousand dollars

932
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: cheaper we have in our models. We have Feeling is

933
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: the better cash play here. His medium projection is about

934
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: four and a half points higher, but the sailing projections

935
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: are neck and neck on DraftKings, just the point separating

936
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: feeling and digs there. So I think you kind of

937
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: played a little different when depending on whether you're in

938
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: cash games or tournaments.

939
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: But both of these guys are set up well for success.

940
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: And it helps too, especially on DraftKings because no no

941
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: one on his team is averaging more than twelve and

942
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: a half yards per catch there they generally kind of

943
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: throw it underneath and or they're not really doing too

944
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: much down in the field, and so that kind of

945
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: helps because these guys are racking.

946
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: Up receptions and that full PPR, it really does help.

947
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 3: So because the offense is so concentrated through these two guys,

948
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: So did you're get to continue to see that? And

949
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook, hopefully you know he's been struggling with the

950
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: volume a little bit, hasn't really gotten too much, too

951
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: much volume in terms of his calories, but did see

952
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: ten targets last week, and I think that's another spot

953
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: where you want to keep kind of feeding him the

954
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: ball in the passing game because you need the ball

955
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: in his hands to kind of function at your optimal

956
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: level if you're in Minnesota, because again, you're not really

957
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: getting those those explosive plays down the field. It's kind

958
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: of more like a dink and dunk situation with them,

959
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 3: even though they have these two really good receivers.

960
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like with Cook, we've seen him take

961
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: at least in that Patriots game, on some of the

962
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: runs he had, he just seemed like he had an

963
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: extra step of explosiveness that we hadn't seen kind of

964
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: since he returned from his injury. With that said, he

965
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: hasn't had over ten carries since Week one. I mean,

966
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: he's had a really high level workload in like the

967
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: five week kind of sample size we have him being

968
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: completely healthy. Do you think we see them approach that,

969
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen to twenty touch workload again this season

970
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: at all? You know, even if they are approaching we

971
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 2: need to win this game mode. And he seems to

972
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: be healthier I think.

973
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: He will, because we saw glimpses of it when he

974
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 3: first returned from injury. I believe they were They said

975
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: they were going to limit him to to fifteen to

976
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: twenty staffs.

977
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: Again, we've got to take with these coaches say with

978
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: a grain of self.

979
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, they ended up playing him for a lot

980
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: more than that, And so I think it's only a

981
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: matter of time when this guy's touching the ball before

982
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: he makes another big play because he's just a really

983
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: talented guy with the ball in his hands, and so

984
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 3: I think he will kind of see them go.

985
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: Back to him.

986
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: But the thing Minnesota really is they just don't run.

987
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: I don't even think it's a cook thing. They're just

988
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: quick to abandon the run. And that's been the case

989
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: for them for most of the season. So you haveatt

990
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: then you have Miami, who's a pretty competitive team. Then

991
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 3: you go to Detroit, a team that defends, especially with

992
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: Snacks talked about earlier, defends the run better than the past.

993
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: And he closed out with Chicago that they're number one

994
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: and run DVA. They're number one against the past as well.

995
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: But those kind of deep you're not really having much

996
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: success running on Chicago either, so we could continue to

997
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 3: see them a band in the run, but I think

998
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: there will probably also see Cook continue to be really

999
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: active in the past game.

1000
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough to be too consistent with the run game

1001
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: when your offensive line isn't really controlling any of those battles.

1002
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: But the other side of the ball, we have seen

1003
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: the Seahawks offensive line control plenty battles this year and

1004
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Chris Carson has been the main beneficiary of that. He

1005
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: dislocated his finger last week, but he is going to

1006
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: man up fight through it. He's not even listed on

1007
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: the final injury report. He will be playing Monday night.

1008
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: Ra Sean Penny may not be, so this is a

1009
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: weird situation. He wasn't even on an injury report all week,

1010
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: so he practiced in full and he just popped up

1011
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: Saturday as questionable with nan injuries. So really not sure

1012
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: what's going on there. Obviously Mike Davis is always involved

1013
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: as well. But Chris, what do you make it as

1014
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: a Seahawks backfield Monday Night? And moving forward?

1015
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: I think they will continue to be the Chris Carson Show.

1016
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: They Pete Cao has gushed about Chris Carson since earlier

1017
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: in the season, even when keep going back to these

1018
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: coach quotes, but even when they've said, hey, we want

1019
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: to get Sean Penny more involved, and they said that

1020
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: a couple of times this season, it usually doesn't really

1021
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: come to fruition. It usually ends up with Penny getting

1022
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: maybe twenty percent of the work. And he made a

1023
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: big play I think a week or I think it

1024
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 3: was last week he got into the end zone.

1025
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: But and Penny has played a lot better over these

1026
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: last few weeks.

1027
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: So even with that, you haven't really seen when Carson's healthy,

1028
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: He's usually ends up being a guy.

1029
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: I think that'll be how he is going forward.

1030
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: When you have Mike Davis, he gives you, he gives

1031
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: you something in the passing game as well, So I

1032
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: think you'll continue to kind of see them rotate, at

1033
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 3: least Davison if Penny's not there behind Carson. But Carson's

1034
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: always going to kind of be that we guy if

1035
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: he's healthy.

1036
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: Last thing with the Seahawks here, so we've seen them

1037
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: have this run first offense all season, but Russell Wilson

1038
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: just keeps producing despite it. He's having an amazing year.

1039
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 2: Touchdown rates out of control, he saw multiple touchdown passes

1040
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: in all but one game this season, even though he's

1041
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: often you know, throwing thirty or fewer passes. Russell Wilson

1042
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: literally has one hundred and fifty eight point three passer rate.

1043
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: He went targeting locket this season. Couldn't be better. But

1044
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: we've also seen bolved when kind of he has been

1045
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: to the fact that number one kind of in the

1046
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: games he's been in there. And we have David Moore

1047
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: who one week seems like he's going to be the

1048
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: next big play threat, the next week he's working behind

1049
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: Jerome Brown some of these other guys. How are you

1050
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: approaching the Seahawks passing game?

1051
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 3: I think, you know, you do have to be a

1052
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: little bit careful because it's a situation where what the

1053
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: Seahawks do well. You mentioned if they run a ball.

1054
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 3: They run a ball more than any team in the league.

1055
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: They're number one in in attempts, their number one yards.

1056
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: Seahawks are also you know, a shaky third down offense

1057
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: even though they're running so well, so they're number nineteen

1058
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: in third down offense, but they've limited to turnovers. So

1059
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: in this game, the one thing you do worry about

1060
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 3: is that Minnesota is the number one third down defense

1061
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: in the league. They're they're allowing opponents to convert only

1062
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: twenty nine point nine percent of third down so and

1063
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: they allow only three point seven yards per carry. So

1064
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: that's number five. So it's if Seattle can't get that

1065
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: run game going in this one, you wonder if they're

1066
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 3: gonna kind of have to They're gonna have to really

1067
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: rely on these chunk plays, and we've seen Wilson kind

1068
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: of do that in the past, and I think you

1069
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: would look to maybe a guy like Lockett, maybe you

1070
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: get him in the slot or something like that and

1071
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: get and get to him downfield. But I think I

1072
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: think those like Lockett is going to be key, like

1073
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: I think the chunk plays there are going to be key,

1074
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: because I don't think it's gonna be quite as easy

1075
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: to run the ball against Minnesota as it is against

1076
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: most of these most of the other opponents they face.

1077
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lockett is the primary candidate to potentially see

1078
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: shadow coverage from Xavier Rhods, but he's in the slot

1079
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: like almost fifty percent of his snaps anyway, And I

1080
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: will say lock It is the kind of type of

1081
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: dynamic deep thart receiver that I can give a more

1082
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: physical type corner like Xavier problems. So looking forward to

1083
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: that one. Primetime Seattle games are always a good time.

1084
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: All right, Now, we're gonna look ahead to Thursday night

1085
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: football in week fifteen, real quick. We have a good one.

1086
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: We had the Los Angeles Chargers traveling to Arrowhead to

1087
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: take on the Kansas City Chiefs over under his hat.

1088
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: Fifty six and a half points, expecting a lot of offense,

1089
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs are three and a half point favorites.

1090
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: So first thing I want to talk about here, Tyreek

1091
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: Hill went off today. You know that it seemed like

1092
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: they were really trying to get him extra involved with

1093
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: Kelsey just going bonkers over the last two weeks. But

1094
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: he was banged up. He was limping along the sideline

1095
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: at one point it was actually questionable to return with

1096
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: the heel injury. Came back out and you know, looked fine.

1097
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: Made the play of the game on that extended fourth

1098
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: and six throw from my homes. But Sammy Watkins is

1099
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: supposed to miss the rest of season with his foot injury. Basically,

1100
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: could you see this Chiefs offense maybe starting to whot

1101
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: a little bit if we have a limited Tyreek Hill

1102
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't say more important than Patrick Mahomes, but

1103
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: I mean Tyrek Hill might be the most like influential

1104
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: wide receiver to an offense.

1105
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, you know for what he does just

1106
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 3: in terms of stressing the defense out. But he's in

1107
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 3: the lineup, I think it'll be you know, it's okay

1108
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: because you can't take that chance that Tyreek Hill was

1109
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: at less than one hundred percent, because Tyreek Kill at

1110
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: ninety percent could probably still run by everybody in the week.

1111
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: But this is like, I know why you brought this up,

1112
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: because if Tyreek Hill is not at optimum strength, you

1113
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: wonder against his Chargers d because Travis kelce has historically

1114
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 3: struggled against his defense Earlier this season. Week one actually

1115
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 3: six targets, one catch, six yards, no touchdowns for Kelsey.

1116
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: Then you look back to last season six catches for

1117
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 3: forty six on seven targets and another and then a

1118
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: one catch for one yard on six targets. So Travis

1119
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: Kelcey really has had no tangible success against his defense

1120
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: for quite some time. You know, Derwin James safety playing

1121
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: really well this year for the Chargers in terms of

1122
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 3: limiting tight ends and what they do that. The Chargers

1123
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: do rank first in the league, number one in DVOA

1124
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: on passes against tight end.

1125
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: So I mean, what do you you know, do you think,

1126
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: like where did the Chiefs go?

1127
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: I guess if you know, Hill's banged up, Kelsey's kind

1128
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: of getting a little more held in check. You know,

1129
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: are you looking back at your boy a Cone? Because

1130
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: I mean the Chargers outside corners are also you know,

1131
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: they're not quite easy to deal with.

1132
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: Maybe we start seeing some and we see them rely

1133
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: on the running game.

1134
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it could be. It's a good point there

1135
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 2: with how well they've shut down Kelsey mentioned earlier how

1136
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders kind of sell out to stop a number

1137
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: one wide receiver. It's almost like the opposite here, because

1138
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: when we've seen Kelsey get completely shut down, we've seen

1139
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: ty Freak really have his way with Casey Hayward. He's

1140
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: gone Week one, he had one hundred and sixty nine

1141
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns. Last season both games against the

1142
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: Chargers had at least seventy five yards and a touchdown.

1143
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, if Tyreek isn't that one hundred percent,

1144
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: I think they're going to have to embrace the run

1145
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: game a little bit more, and it seems like that

1146
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: run game, at least for a time being, is only

1147
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: going to be East Spencer Ware and Damian Williams. They

1148
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 2: signed Chark Candrick West this week. Everyone kind of assumed

1149
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: it was going to be thrown to a huge running

1150
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: back by committee time share, but he was inactive, and

1151
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: through two weeks we've seen spencer Ware twenty nine rushes,

1152
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: Damian Williams had thirteen, whereas six targets. Williams has seven,

1153
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: So they're pretty even in the past game. But I

1154
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: don't know, man, they never even would hunt. They weren't

1155
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: like a dominating run blocking team, so I don't know

1156
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: that they need to be anyways. Reads so good at

1157
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: scheming them in the kind of good calls regardless, but

1158
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: it makes sense. I guess the feed wearing Williams the ball,

1159
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: especially if they continue to at least have some I mean,

1160
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: they're having more success than the Steelers at least without

1161
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: Connor absolutely.

1162
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: And you know the run has been LA's weakness.

1163
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: They are they, you know, the little banged up on

1164
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: the inside and at for season they're tenth eleven spots

1165
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 3: lower in DVOA against the run, their eighteenth in the

1166
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: League where they came into week thirteen, seventh against the

1167
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 3: pass so and I think I was impressed with you know,

1168
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 3: Kansas City was able to run the ball today with

1169
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: Spencer Ware fifteen carries seventy five yards against a top

1170
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: five run defense. So I think we'll probably see a

1171
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: little more dedication to the run if Tyreek is limited anyway.

1172
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, if he's healthy, I think he's still going

1173
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 3: to be the guy. And he's the more likely of

1174
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: you between the two stud guys Hill and Kelsey to

1175
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 3: blow up just because the Charges have been playing playing

1176
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: it so well against Kelsey.

1177
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll stick on the running game for a second.

1178
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: Go to the other side of the ball, though. A

1179
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: bunch of uncertainty and the Chargers' backfield all of a sudden,

1180
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon was having incredible season obviously suffered that knee injury,

1181
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 2: so Ian Rapport has reported that Gordon could be back

1182
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: this Thursday. It sounded like the injury wasn't as bad

1183
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: as they initially thought, and he had an outside chance

1184
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: of playing this week, but obviously wanted to keep him

1185
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: for this more high leverage game Thursday and night. It's

1186
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: really more urgent now though, because Austin Eckler, who apparently

1187
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: has been dealing with stingers throughout the last few weeks,

1188
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: and that's why coach and did say during the week,

1189
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: maybe they get Justin Jackson a little more involved. But yeah,

1190
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter has reported that Eckler did reaggravate that stinger injury,

1191
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: and they're already reporting that it's gonna be tough for

1192
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: him to be ready to go by Thursday night. So, oh, Chris,

1193
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: if we're somehow looking at us acenario where Gordon and

1194
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 2: Eckler are out, how confident are you in the Justin

1195
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: Jackson show.

1196
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm a fan of Jackson.

1197
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 3: I think he's I still think he's capable of doing

1198
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: as much as you know, any of these guys in

1199
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: his backfield, just because you have Philip Rivers and you

1200
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: just have a good infrastructure where you don't have to

1201
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: be like a world beater, like you don't have to

1202
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: be a Melvin Gordon to put up numbers in his

1203
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: back especially if both of those guys are going to

1204
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: be out. So I would be, you know, fine playing Jackson.

1205
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: It probably one of those situations where you know, this

1206
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: is the week to play him. But yeah, I mean,

1207
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: I think it was kind of silly because they had

1208
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 3: Jackson available in this game and they kept running Eckler

1209
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: on the inside and he was having some success. But

1210
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: you know, waiting that game, he runs on he takes

1211
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: a car inside and just gets blown up.

1212
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: And he's just lying on the ground for you know.

1213
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: I think they had to go to commercial break, and

1214
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure that was probably the start of it. I

1215
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: think they said then he got he got hurt again

1216
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 3: on the on the on side kick.

1217
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: So I think it is kind of a long shot

1218
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: at this point for him to play.

1219
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: I think it would be smart to kind of not

1220
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: only get Eckler healthy, but make sure Gordon's healthy as well,

1221
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 3: because you can't afford to lose Gordon. You know, Eckler

1222
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: is obviously probably going to be the more less durable

1223
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: back just because of the way he's built and what

1224
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: the injury that he's now struggling with. But so I

1225
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: think you can't afford to kind of have like a

1226
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: Melvin Gordon at eighty percent and he reaggravates whatever he's

1227
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: dealing with. Because I think that happened, That's how that's

1228
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: how this happened last time. It wasn't he kind of

1229
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: questionable coming into the game, and then he got kind

1230
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: of left midway through.

1231
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: Think he like maybe in the first or second quarter.

1232
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: It was a really weird situation, man Like the report

1233
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: that came out was that the Chargers basically didn't want

1234
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon to suit up, and he more or less

1235
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: convinced him to play. And then I think he got

1236
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: hurt when they were up like twenty plus in the

1237
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, like probably shouldn't have even been out there.

1238
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I mean, and so yeah, here we

1239
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 3: go this the running back usage hasn't always been I

1240
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 3: guess the strong point at all LA is doing.

1241
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: But they're getting it done. You know that they're winning games.

1242
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: They're right here. I mean, they win this game and

1243
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: they're even with the Chiefs. So this is a key

1244
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: game for him.

1245
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised to see Melvin Gordon give it

1246
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 3: a go at less than full strength. You know, if

1247
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 3: that's If that's the case, then you know it's going

1248
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: to be a really dicey situation. We're just gonna have

1249
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: to kind of monitor the news and see what kind

1250
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: of work woill we expect from him? And you know,

1251
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: see what's going on with Equer. You know, is Jack's

1252
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 3: going to take that equal roles, He's not going to

1253
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 3: play at all.

1254
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: You know, It's just something we have to monitor. But

1255
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: I kind of wonder now because.

1256
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 3: You brought up McCoy and McCoy's had a situation where

1257
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: I think two or three times now this year he's

1258
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 3: left early in games, and I you know, now Melvin

1259
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: Gordon's happened to him a couple of times. I just

1260
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 3: wonder if maybe like once a guy leaves, you know,

1261
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 3: gets injured, I know, there's like a higher chance of

1262
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: re injury throughout the season. So that just makes these

1263
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: guys even more of like at risk, I think, to

1264
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 3: not complete a game. So it's real, it's gonna be

1265
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: a really dicey situation.

1266
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with these teams that are seemingly actually taking

1267
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: things day by day and taking kind of the player's

1268
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: word for it over the doctors sometimes. So I mean,

1269
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: it would just be better if they could really let

1270
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: these guys get one hundred percent healthy and then let

1271
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: them back in their old roles. But all right, last

1272
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 2: thing on this game. Quickly, the Chargers receivers, we've seen

1273
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen basically just take over this pass game. In

1274
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: recent weeks, he scored a touchdown five straight, having his

1275
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: second just massive second half breakout in a row. Chiefs,

1276
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: i'd say their best cornerback, Kendall Fuller is their primary

1277
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: slot corner. He's a PFS number eighteen overall cornerback this year.

1278
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: But I mean we saw Keenan roast them for one

1279
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: hundred eight yards and a touchdown back in Week one.

1280
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: Chiefs have always, you know, their primary zone defense kind

1281
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: of exposed themselves to slot receivers and type of things

1282
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: that Allen's very good at. Do you see any chance

1283
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: here the chief slowing down king.

1284
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Kind of Fuller linebacker. No, yeah, it's it's really tough

1285
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: to set out Keenan Allen. I mean I was hiring

1286
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: him coming into the season because he's just a wicked

1287
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: route runner.

1288
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: Man.

1289
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's who like I don't I couldn't really

1290
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: name a corner that you trust to shut him down.

1291
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: Usually Keenan slow games or just you know, Chargers aren't

1292
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: really throwing the ball a lot, or Tyrell Williams goes

1293
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: or Benjamin goes for like an eighty r touchdown, and

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00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 3: you know there's not as much volume to go around,

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 3: So Keenan Allen I think he's going to continue to

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00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: ball again. The Chargers have a banged up, you know,

1297
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: bang up in the backfield, but a chance to pull

1298
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: Leaven with the Chiefs, so they're definitely going to be

1299
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: going all out to win this game. The one thing

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00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: we do see, though, very profitable trend if you look

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00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: at bet Labs over at the Action Network is that

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00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: the home the favorites on Thursday tend to dominate, and

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: that is something to keep in mind, as you know

1304
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: set in DFS lines, is that the favorites, I think

1305
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: they've been the cover rates over sixty percent going all

1306
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: the way back to two thousand and five.

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00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: On Thursday.

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00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: It's just really tough for in an inferior team go

1309
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: play a better team on short rest, and so that

1310
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 3: is something to keep in mind that we potentially could

1311
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: see a let down. But either way, I mean, Keenan

1312
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: Allen's going to get the volume and then you know

1313
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 3: behind him, it's going to be kind of a you know,

1314
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: some weeks it's Tyrell, some weeks it's Mike. It's hard

1315
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: to kind of pick and choose, but both of those

1316
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: guys definitely, you know, affordable, trying to see Travis Benjamin

1317
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: a little bit more involved as well, so I think

1318
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: got to keep him in mind is a dark throw

1319
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: as well. The tight ends have really been the guys

1320
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 3: that have been really not useful in fantasy. I mean,

1321
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 3: they get a couple of catches here and here, Verga

1322
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: Green and Antonio Gates, but I think you're essentially trying

1323
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: to pair Keenan Allen with the Philip Rivers and then

1324
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: you're just kind of looking for that that dark throw

1325
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: like one of the Williams is of Benjamin.

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00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: To kind of hit as as that third guy in

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00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: the stack.

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00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also look at the snaps from today, but

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00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: I know I had a bunch of Tyrell Williams today

1330
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: because one Mike and Travis have both been healthy. We've

1331
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: kind of seen them split snaps. You know, they're both

1332
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: capable of doing their thing, but it's been Tyrell has

1333
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: usually had the higher snap count, so they haven't quite

1334
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: transition to Mike Williams just being that more full time

1335
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: tight end s red zone threat. But I think it

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00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: just final way to get all four of those receivers

1337
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 2: out there, that'd be that'd be something, but looking forward

1338
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Speaker 2: to that game. All right, now it's time for our

1339
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: weekly bet. I am slowly but surely climbing my way

1340
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: out of a pitiful record. Chris Iste up ten to

1341
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: five and three on the year. I'm six ten and two.

1342
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: Last week Eagles and Redskins. I had Wentz, he had Ertz.

1343
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: I remember watching this six to my stomach, just like,

1344
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: damn it, Chris, beat me. I'm one of your leverage plays.

1345
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: But Earth's ended up going nine catches eighty three scoreless yards.

1346
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: So once it was able to beat that with three

1347
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: h six and two tundies, Chris, you had the Skins,

1348
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: I had the under. Good times there. This week's bet

1349
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: forty six over under Seahawks in the Vikings. The Seahawks

1350
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: right now are at minus three. What's your pick?

1351
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: I'm going Seahawks here because I like the Actually, no,

1352
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going with the over.

1353
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm going with the over.

1354
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: I think I think there will be uh some explosive

1355
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 3: plays happening in this game on both sides, and uh

1356
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: I think you, I think you'll see this game be

1357
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: able to more high scoring that you might expect.

1358
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the over.

1359
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: Two good quarterbacks for sure. I will take the Seahawks

1360
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: minus three. Uh. I was down the Seahawks going this year.

1361
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: You know, I just didn't think they to make this

1362
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: whole new offense work. Seem like they can maybe spiral

1363
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: out of control. But kudos to them just continuing to

1364
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: play good defense and run that ball. All right. Highest

1365
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: scoring player, I am going to go with the receiver

1366
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: that I truly do think is better and has a

1367
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: higher ceiling, Stefan Diggs. You can take Feling.

1368
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, I gotta take the now because I'm thinking,

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01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 3: I don't think again, I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: I think that they're gonna rely on Uss and he's

1372
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: gonna be throwing it down the field a little bit

1373
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: more and trying to kind of pick up some chunks

1374
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: because I think they are going to struggle a little

1375
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: bit more than usual to run the ball, and I

1376
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: think they'll give Russ a little more, a little more

1377
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 3: freedom than they have.

1378
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: In some of these other games to kind to kind

1379
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Speaker 1: of what it loves.

1380
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't seen Russ run as much this year

1381
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: as years past, but obviously always has that in his

1382
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 2: tool kit as well. Thank you everyone for listening hope

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: you all had a great week fourteen. Here's to an

1384
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: even better week fifteen. Chris any last words

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Speaker 1: Let's get this money.