1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back. Everybody's second hour of The 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show underway. Now, Well, I've 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: been talking a lot about elections. It is decision day 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: in Wyoming and the Alaska at least primary decision day, 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: and Alaska has kind of a weird primary. But yeah, 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney's about to get the boots. So that's good news. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna get tossed out of office here soon. She 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: richly deserves it. But there's another election process of sorts 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: that has occurred that we wanted to bring to your 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: attention here. As you know, we've been all over the 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: progressive prosecutor issue really for as long as we've been 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: on air together, because this has led to a massive 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: increase lib lunatic prosecutors who just think, let criminals go free. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: The criminal justice system is racist. Just don't even lock 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: people up, don't even charge them. One hundred arrests, no 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: big deal, must have had a bad day a hundred 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: times in a row. It's resulted in less safe cities, 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: It's resulted in more people being murdered, rape, robbed, assaulted. 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: We all see it, we know it. The numbers all 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: back it up. And some of the worst offenders in 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: the progressive prosecutor pantheon are the former now DA of 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: San Francisco, chess At Boudan, Brag Alvin Bragg in New 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: York City, Kim Fox in Chicago, and Gascone of Los Angeles. 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Now there is a recall effort underway, has been a 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: recall effort, I have to say, underway to get rid 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: of Gascon in Los Angeles, after the successful recall effort 28 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: to get rid of Boudan in San Francisco, and unfortunately 29 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: the recall effort has hit a little snag clay. There's 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: so much going on here. This is so interesting, isn't it. 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: To get a recall measure on the ballot for the 32 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: upcoming election, you needed to have five hundred for the partition. 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: This is from the LA Registrar County Registrar. Five hundred 34 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: and sixty six thousand, eight hundred and fifty seven signatures. 35 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Now they had over seven hundred thousand signatures to recall Gascone, 36 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: but we just find out today that only five hundred 37 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: and twenty thousand and fifty signatures were found to be 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: valid one hundred and ninety five thousand, seven hundred and 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: eighty three signatures they have said are invalid. Now this 40 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: is I've seen the reasons. There's all kinds of stuff, 41 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: and we can get into some of the what the 42 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: basis is for alleged basis for removing these signatures may be, 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: but Clay, a lot of people are pointed to something 44 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: right now. It's really interesting. What percentage of men in 45 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: ballots in the twenty twenty election were rejected in Los 46 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: Angeles County less than one percent, basically none. What percentage 47 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: of signatures to get this Gascon recall recall on the 48 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: ballot were rejected almost thirty percent. It's about mathematically a 49 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: sixty x when you add it all up. For every 50 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: one signature from a mail in ballot or from a 51 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: mail in ballot in general, for every one that was 52 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: rejected in twenty twenty, sixty signatures were rejected in the 53 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Gascon effort. I have a feeling at best here they 54 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: decided to get a whole lot more strict with the 55 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: rules when it was their guy who wanted the strict rules. Yeah, 56 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: and also the idea of a written recall effort feels 57 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: really antiquated to me in a modern era right where 58 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: you're sitting and looking at re signal signature and all 59 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: of these right, we had massive issues in Michigan with 60 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the people who wanted to be on 61 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: the ballot in Michigan. Now Tudor Dixon ended up being 62 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: the nominee. I spent a lot of time up in 63 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: Michigan and was talking to people about this, But they 64 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: had a bunch of people that they thought were going 65 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: to be leading Republican contenders for governor that weren't able 66 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: to get these signatures validated. It just seems like it's messy, 67 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: doesn't it. I mean, when you're talking about almost two 68 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: hundred thousand signatures being rejected, you're almost to the point 69 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: now where whatever ballot measure you're trying to advocate for 70 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: needs to get twice as many as the minimum number 71 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: in order to feel like you even have a chance 72 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: to get on the ballot itself. And getting gascone out 73 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: in LA is something that cuts across partisan lines in 74 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: a substantial way, much like we saw what happened down 75 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: in San Francisco with CHESSA Houdin, and you didn't mention him, 76 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: but Philadelphia, I mean, we've talked a little bit about then, 77 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: Larry Krasner. Philadelphia is on pace right now for the 78 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: deadliest and highest level shootings that have ever existed in 79 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: the history of Philadelphia, and a lot of it is 80 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: being pointed at Larry Krasner as the reason. And certainly 81 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: if you're listening to us in Los Angeles now, I've 82 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: been fortunate gotten to spend a lot of time in 83 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: LA over the years. I really liked the city of 84 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. But my goodness, the amount of health and 85 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: safety and danger that has changed in the last decade 86 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: in LA is pretty significant. And we haven't talked much 87 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: about it, Buck, but they're having a big mayoral election 88 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and that's really kind of being divided 89 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: in many ways along political lines, even though both of 90 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: the final two, if I remember correctly, are both Democrats. 91 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: One of them was a long time Republican developer who 92 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: is now saying, hey, I'm a Democrat as well. Karen 93 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: Bass is on one side. And what's the guy who's 94 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: going to beat Karen Bass? Hopefully? I mean, I think 95 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: he's the more more rational and reasonable of the LA 96 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: mayoral candidates, and it would be a big win. And 97 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: he's actually been endorsed by a lot of a lot 98 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: of the people who are just fed up in Los 99 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: Angeles with the collapse that they've seen there. There's a 100 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: big point of hypocrisy here as well, because in the 101 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Gascone recall effort. Now Gascone is up for reelection in 102 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four anyway, and it is looking very unlikely 103 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: that he will be reelected because even Democrats realize, Look, 104 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: I think I sent you a photo of it this morning. Play. 105 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I live in midtown Manhattan. I live within 106 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: a stone's throw of Time Square, right in the heart 107 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: of the city, and I walk out my front door 108 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: and there are used needles and drug baggies fifty feet 109 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: from the from the front door. I mean, this is 110 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: just what happens when you decriminalize open air drug usage. 111 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: When when all of a sudden, shooting up heroin and 112 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: broad daylight in front of children on a crowded street 113 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: is no big deal. You see a lot more of it, right, 114 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: And when you don't prosecute people that are gang members 115 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: and have you know, multiple felonies already on the record, 116 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: you don't give them a stiff sentence, they end up 117 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: shooting somebody. And that's what's happened in Krasner's Philadelphia. You know, 118 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: there were twelve people who were shot Friday night alone 119 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. And I know people say, well, some weekends 120 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: there's you know, thirty or forty shot in Chicago. Well 121 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: it's one night, and Philly is a fraction the size 122 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: of Chicago. Philadelphia is going to end up having one 123 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: of the highest murder rates in the entire country. And 124 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: it all coincides with Kami lunatic Krasner being the prosecutor 125 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: who comes in and just says, prosecuting criminals feels racist 126 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: to me, which, by the way, that that sentiment, I 127 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: would argue, is completely insane, right, because what you're effectively, 128 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: what you're claiming with all of this, is that the 129 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: disparate impact of prosecution, somehow you never take into effect 130 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: the disparate impact on the communities where this violence is occurring. 131 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: You know, are you going to side with the ninety 132 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: nine percent of minorities who are law abiding or the 133 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: one percent in certain communities who are not law abiding? Right? 134 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: But for Krasner, it's an easy decision. He's made that 135 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: decision and this is what we see. We see it. 136 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: It's spirally out of control. Well, let me clear this 137 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: up to LA. May or. Race is going to come 138 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: down to Rick Caruso, who is a former developer, billionaire 139 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: and former Republican and he's going up against Karen vast 140 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: So that's the decision that La is going to have 141 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: to make. To your point on Philadelphia and the allegations 142 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Larry Krasner would toss out that policing is racist, I 143 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: think you destroy that argument with one analogy, and I 144 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: think it's a good one that I would encourage everybody 145 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: out there. There's my men and women violent thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 146 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: it's true. As soon as you ask somebody say, okay, 147 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: it's racist here because fifty people who are going to 148 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: being arrested for violent crime or black and they only 149 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: represent twelve percent of the population. Whatever it is, say, okay, 150 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: ninety seven percent of the people that are being arrested 151 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: for violent crime in America regularly, certainly well over ninety 152 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: percent in every community. You know what they are mail? 153 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Is it sexist that police are police waging war on 154 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: men by arresting men wildly er percentages than their percentage 155 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: of population. If you took the left wing view on 156 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: this the the what's the word where misogyny is hating women? Andrew? 157 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Is it? No? Not? It's uh, miss, what's the word 158 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: for hating men? I'm blanking on right now. I don't 159 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: even know it's there is a word, and I think 160 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: it's androw something or other. I'm forgetting right now. But anyway, 161 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: if you took the left wing argument about criminal justice 162 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: and race to apply it to gender, what you would 163 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: you would you would go through all the same iterations. 164 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: You'd say, there are so many men who are in 165 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: prison u for crimes they didn't commit, and women get 166 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: off for murders all the time. This is what has 167 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: often said, right and they would say, or miss Andrew, 168 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how Miss Andrew was like, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, 169 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: And there are so many men who are in prison 170 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: who who are innocent, and beyond that, we should just 171 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: let a lot of men who are murderers out of prison, 172 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: because clearly it can't be true that there are more 173 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: men committing murders than women. Therefore, let's just empty out 174 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: the prison population of murderers and see what happens. That 175 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: is the argument that the left has engaged in just 176 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: with race instead of gender involved. And you know, you 177 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: see this playing out with kras and you see this 178 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: playing out with Gascombe. But just another thing, clay on 179 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: the process, the recall process, and how I mean here 180 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: that they're saying things like I pulled this up so 181 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: I could see exactly the reasons they got rid of 182 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: a lot folks. Almost two hundred thousand signatures found to 183 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: be invalid, right not registered. Max number of times signed 184 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: different an address, different address, thirty two thousand. That's that's 185 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: close to being the margin. You know. How you know 186 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: there were thousands of people who voted in the wrong 187 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: county in Georgia in the twenty twenty election and their 188 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: votes were counted, and they don't they don't seem to care. 189 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Molly Molly hemingway over the Federalists that excellent work on this. 190 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: They just figure, well, they basically should count because people's 191 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: votes should count. So we're just going to ignore the rules. Notice, 192 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: the left becomes hyper focused on ways to use integrity 193 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: laws about elections or anything else when it's to their advantage, 194 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: and when it's not to their advantage, those laws are racist. Yeah, 195 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: and it's systemic racism, not just racism, systemic racism. So 196 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: I would ask all of you out there, the next 197 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: time you hear maybe it's your kids, maybe it's your 198 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: grandkids arguing the criminal justice system is systemically racist, just 199 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: set them down and say is it also systemically sexist? 200 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: And then walk through that argue with them and see 201 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: what their reaction is, because a lot of times when 202 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: people play the systemic racism card, they expect because there 203 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: is a fear in your racist If you question anything 204 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: that has to do with systemic racism allegations, just say, yeah, 205 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: you know what, In addition to being systemically racist, I 206 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: think our criminal justice system is systemically sexist because men 207 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: are overwhelmingly going to prison and it's not fair. And 208 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: just see what the reaction is. Why are police so sexist? 209 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: Why are they consistently arresting men and not arresting women? 210 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: And in order to balance things out in society, should 211 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: we just arrest fewer men for violent crimes? Should we 212 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: just Look, it's not fair. Clearly men aren't just committing 213 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: more violent crimes than women, The argument goes, so we 214 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: should just arrest fewer men for violent crimes. This is 215 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: the argument laid bare for everybody. So there you go, 216 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: and what happens when you do that? 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It's like magic, Clay, I 240 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: just will it into existence. There you go. We have 241 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Kelly Shabaka with us now. She's running for Senate up 242 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: in the great state of Alaska. Kelly, thanks for calling 243 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: and appreciate you making the time. I know it's a 244 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: big day. I'm so happy to be with you, and 245 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: thanks for making time for me. So tell us about 246 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: what everybody, not just across the country, but certainly in 247 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: your home state of Alaska's We've got a great Alaska 248 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: audience listening to this. What do they need to know 249 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: about why they should go with you as the real 250 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Republican here over Lisa Murkowski as the fake Republican. Maybe 251 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: I just gave too much away, but go ahead. I 252 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: think you just summed it up. But here's like three 253 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: top reasons. Number one, we need someone who is going 254 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: to block all those Biden nominees that are harmful for Alaska. 255 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: Instead of having a senator who's confirmed nearly all the 256 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: radical nominees, including those leftist environmentalists who are working to 257 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: shut down our state and pursue the energy annihilating agenda 258 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: that's killing our fossil fuel industry and driving up gas prices. 259 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: Number two, we need a senator who isn't bought and 260 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: paid for by dark money from DC insiders and radical 261 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: environmentalists and big tech. Instead, have a senator who represents 262 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: our Alaska voices and won't be bullied, silenced, and controlled 263 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: by the DC insiders. And I'd say number three, we 264 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: need a senator who doesn't say one thing in Alaska 265 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: and do the opposite in DC, and instead votes for 266 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: what's in the best interests of Alaska. Like right now, 267 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Senator Murkowski says she supports our Second Amendment interests, but 268 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: then she goes back to DC and works with Joe 269 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: Biden and the Democrats to vote for red flag laws 270 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: and she loses her NRA endorse and votes for gun control. Well, 271 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: we love our guns up here. We have to look 272 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: both ways when we walk out our side, our door 273 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: to see what Grizzly Bear is coming. So we need 274 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: a senator who just talks straight. Claire, I told you 275 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: about the grizzly bears everywhere. They really are everywhere. We're 276 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: talking to Kelly Shabaka. She is a candidate for Alaska Senate. 277 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: All right, so explain. Buck and I were trying to 278 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: make sense of this ranked choice voting system. And obviously 279 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: we are borderline intelligent on this issue, and that's probably 280 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: an exaggeration. We don't really understand it that well. So today, 281 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: is it right that there will be four people who 282 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: advance to the general election? And if you are people 283 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: are listening to us right now and they are big 284 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: supporters of yours. What's the best way to vote both 285 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: now and in November from a ranked choice perspective. I 286 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: can break it all down super simple. Today, vote Kelly, 287 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: and in November vote Kelly number one. Leave the rest 288 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: of your ballot blank. Your ballot will not be disqualified, 289 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: you won't lose your vote. And this is what's actually happened. 290 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: Project Veritas just exposed undercover videos that leaves the Murkowski 291 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: colluded with her campaign staff to deceive Alaskans and manipulate 292 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: this change in our election system, so she'd have some 293 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: kind of a limited chance of being able to maintain 294 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: the forty one year Murkowski monarchy. They hand down our 295 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: Senate seat like a birthright, but it doesn't belong to 296 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: the Murkowskis. It belongs to Alaska. So what we're doing 297 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: is fighting to get our Senate seat back in the 298 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: hands of Alaskans. She wouldn't win this primary. If it 299 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: was a party primary, her career would be done today, 300 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: but instead she wants to drag it on to November, 301 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: and I'm confident we're going to retire her. The way 302 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: that we do that is we vote Kelly number one 303 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: in November. If we get fifty percent on round one, 304 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: we win. Otherwise, what happens is Number four drops off, 305 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Number three drops off. Their subsequent votes go and get 306 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: resorted into person one. In person two, it'll be head 307 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: to head between me and Lisa Murkowski. But I'll tell 308 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: you I've talked to thousands of Alaskans. Even common sense 309 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: Democrats are supporting us because they can't line up with 310 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Lisa Murkowski. So I think we're gonna 311 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: win this. We just have to wait to November to 312 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: do it. Okay, Kelly, that's important because a lot of 313 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: people out there listening to us right now are used 314 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: to Republican primaries and Democrat primaries. If you were running 315 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: against Lisa Murkowski today for the Republican nomination in Alaska, 316 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: you would trounce her. Right, That's absolutely correct. She knows it. 317 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: I know it. The data shows it. That's why she 318 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: had to manipulate a change in the election system so 319 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: she would survive. We're speaking to Kelly Shabaka. The primary 320 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: is today in Alaska. She's running for Senate there, and Kelly, 321 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: I see, you're a Harvard lograd from two thousand and two. 322 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: Very impressive, by the way, the decision by Murkowski to 323 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: vote to impeach Donald Trump and to maintain that she 324 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: is a Republican. Who did this? What do you think 325 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: he calculation was? Like? Who was she trying to please 326 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: with that one? What game was she playing? So when 327 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: you look at her rhetoric and the thing she's done, 328 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: I think she has a personal vendetta against Donald J. Trump, 329 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: whether he's a president or whether he's just a citizen. 330 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: The fact is it's not a constitutional to impeach somebody 331 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: who is no longer holding office as president or in 332 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: any position in the government. It's just a personal vendetta 333 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: for her. But Lisa Rakowski can't really hold herself out 334 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: as a Republican when she's voting with Chuck Schumer twenty 335 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: percent more often than she votes with Ted Cruz, and 336 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: when she's voting with Joe Biden seventy percent or more 337 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: of the time, she's often that tie breaking vote on 338 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: nominees or on legislation for Joe Biden. Just saving Kamala 339 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: the walkdown Pennsylvania Avenue. We all know up here in 340 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: Alaska that she's not a Republican. Our Republican party has 341 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: actually censured her and removed her from membership. The only 342 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: people who are still pretending she's a Republican really is 343 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell. And we can't figure out why because up 344 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: here in Alaska, she looks like a Democrat. She talks 345 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: like a Democrat, she walks like a Democrat. Her campaign 346 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: is run by Democrats and funded by Democrats. That makes you, uh, 347 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: that's right, a Democrat. She's wondering, Kelly, that's what it is. 348 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: Sarah Palin's running in a congressional race up there. Any 349 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on that one? Just you know, she's somebody who 350 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: really put Alaska on the national political maps on years ago, 351 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: any any thoughts at all that one's going to be 352 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: a tight race. So though that's to close and finish 353 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: our vacant congressional seat from when our congressman passed away 354 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: earlier this year, and that one's going to be decided today. 355 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: And she has a very tight race with another Republican 356 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: who has been endorsed by our Republican party. So we'll 357 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: see what happens up here. They're splitting the vote and 358 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: then there's a Democrat in that race, and that's the 359 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: ring choice election, So we're going to see how that 360 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: plays out today. She's got a lot of support, but 361 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: so does her challenger, her Republican challenger. We'll see what happens. Kelly. 362 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: You got a law degree, is Buck just mentioned? I 363 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: do two, and we've talked a ton about this more 364 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: lago raid by the FBI. What was your reaction when 365 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: you heard it happened. You know something that Buck and 366 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: I share in common is our background in national security. 367 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: I spent over a decade doing oversight of THATBI. I 368 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: come from the watchdog world, so not only from my 369 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: pass as a recovering lawyer, but my past as doing 370 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: oversight of the FBI. This is very disturbing. We're seeing 371 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 1: that there's violation of the equal treatment of law, and 372 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: we're seeing a concern here. At least we need to 373 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: ask questions why they didn't use least intrusive means, that's 374 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: our Fourth Amendment protection. We need to ask why didn't 375 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: they have just enforced their subpoena to ask for documents 376 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: instead of going in with a warrant and invading a 377 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: home and flipping over things and looking in face and 378 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: people's clothes. These are the kind of questions we need 379 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: to ask because it looks like a politicization and weaponization 380 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: of law enforcement against political enemies and opponents. And you're 381 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: not doing that against other people who are political friends 382 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: and allies. And that's concerning. So it's time for Congress 383 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: to ask some hard questions. It's time to hold DJ 384 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: and FBI officials accountable, and there's lots of ways to 385 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: do that. Kelly, good luck today, good luck in November. 386 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk to you again. She is Kelly Shibaka. 387 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: She is running for the Alaskan Senate seat that is 388 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: currently occupied by Lisa Murkowski. Thank you for the time, Thanks, 389 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: and I make Kelly for Ak dot com. If people 390 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: want to learn more, have a great day. Thank you awesome. 391 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: I want to tell you all about our friends at 392 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: my Pillow. 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We're everywhere, and one reason a lot 418 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: of those social numbers are growing so rapidly is because 419 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: we'll have conversations that frankly, don't occur very many places, 420 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: such as the one we're about to have with Alex Berenson. Alex, 421 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: when we were having you on last year and you 422 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: were starting to share the data on the COVID shot 423 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: and the fact that it was not going to limit 424 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: the spread or keep people from getting COVID, it was 425 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: considered to be unacceptable. The White House was furious. And 426 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: this is where I want to start with you. On 427 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: your sub stack. You have a story up. You have 428 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: written documentation that the White House, in meetings with Twitter, 429 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: demanded that you no longer be able to share your 430 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: opinions on social media because the White House considered it 431 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: to be disinformation. Misinformation however you want to classify it 432 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: for people who don't know exactly what happened, what happened 433 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: and what was the impact of that White House activity, Well, 434 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: I think the short answers were I'm still I'm still 435 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: investigating that, I'm still finding that out. But what happened 436 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: that you know, that I know for certain is that 437 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: last August, Twitter banned me, and they had sort of 438 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: been ratcheting up the pressure on me starting in mid 439 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: July of last year July twenty twenty one, I've been 440 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: a pretty popular Twitter user, probably one of the more 441 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: prominent skeptics, first about lockdown and you know, in school 442 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: closures and stuff like that in twenty twenty, and then 443 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: raising questions about the vaccine I think, you know, and 444 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: I would say it was raising them in a very 445 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: data driven, measured way. But they clearly didn't like that. 446 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: People in the public health community didn't like that. Democratic 447 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: politicians didn't like that. Journalists didn't like that, and so 448 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: and yet Twitter, um, you know, for most of twenty 449 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: twenty and early twenty twenty one told me suppecily, we 450 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: have your back. Basically, we know what you're doing, we 451 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: think it's okay. So at some point late spring or 452 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: summer of twenty twenty one, that changed, and it changed 453 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: very publicly for me. In July of twenty twenty one, 454 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: they'd banned me or locking me out of my account 455 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: for the first time after President Biden said he didn't 456 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: mentioned me, but he said, you know, these social media 457 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: platforms are killing people. So that led me to sue 458 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Twitter in in December twenty twenty one, saying, look, you 459 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: guys stanned me in August. That was wrong. I didn't 460 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: do anything wrong. You know, you made these representations to me, 461 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: and you're violating your own you know, contract with me, 462 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: and you're violating my First Amendment rights. You're acting, you know, 463 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: on behalf of the state, you know, by state and 464 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: ey federal government. Okay. In April of this year, a 465 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: couple months ago, a judge, a federal judge in California, 466 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: said I had a viable claim that I had proven 467 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: or at least stated plausively that Twitter had indeed violated 468 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: its terms of service US with me. That led to 469 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: settlement negotiations between me and Twitter in July, a month ago, 470 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: Twitter put me back on the platform and acknowledge that 471 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have taken me off. So that was where 472 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: we were until a couple of days ago. A couple 473 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: of days ago, I posted these documents. And what the 474 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: documents show is that in April of twenty twenty one, 475 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: before I became under public pressure, the White House appears 476 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: to have specifically targeted me with Twitter. They went to 477 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: they had a meeting at the White House, and nobody's 478 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: suiting the authenticity of these documents. And after the meeting, 479 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: Twitter people said to each other internally they were very 480 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: interested in now experiencing They wanted to know why he's 481 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: still on the platform. So that gives me a viable 482 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: claim to sue the White House and to sue a 483 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: guy named Andy Flavitt, who at the time was the 484 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: COVID an advisor to the COVID response team, who has 485 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, who's sort of been very prominent in the 486 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: Democratic response to COVID, but he was working in the 487 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: White House at that time, and he's specifically mentioned in 488 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: these documents and say, look, you guys tried to use 489 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: the power of the schedual government against me. Specifically, you 490 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: leaned on Twitter and four months later Twitter banded me. 491 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna so I need to know how that happened. 492 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: I need to know how you silenced me. I have 493 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: a right, as at first, you know, as an American citizen, 494 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: to the First Amendment to speak, to beak publicly. Twitter 495 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: is a very very important platform. You obviously knew that 496 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: you wanted me off what happened. So I'm going to sue, 497 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, the White House, and I'm gonna sue Slavitt 498 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happened. Speaking Alex Berenson, he has 499 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: a sub stack which you should all check out. And 500 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: also his book is Pandemia. Alex, I didn't I want 501 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: to ask you about COVID because Clay and I have 502 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: just been First of all, as we know, doctor Jill Biden, 503 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: what was your line cloud on Twitter? Not a good 504 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: enough doctor to avoid COVID? You know, think have taken 505 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: it more serious? Would have gotten five shots? This with 506 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: Boor Law and the other the CEO of Moderna bemoaning 507 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: the disposal of thirty million shots because nobody wants them. 508 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: It feels like the whole thing is collapsing. Is there 509 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: even any good evidence at this point to suggest that 510 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: if someone got their booster six months ago, let's say 511 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: they are any more protected than anybody else. Oh, absolutely not. No, 512 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: six months ago, No against omicron. No, you probably are 513 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: in higher risk in infection. Uh. You the booster seems 514 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: to work for somewhere between two and six weeks against omicron. Uh. 515 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: That's about it. No, here's here's the you know. The 516 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: punchline is, Yeah, Maderna is dumping thirty million doses. The 517 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: US government is spending almost two billion dollars to buy 518 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: sixty six million boosters from them, and three billion to 519 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: buy another one hundred million boosters from Fiser. We are 520 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 1: reloading with shots that are nobody's gonna want that, we're 521 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: sending five billion dollars off. Can I just ask, Alex, 522 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: is this an even bigger failure than a year ago 523 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: we were having you on? And I might add to 524 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: some considerable heat that Clay and I got for this, 525 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: including from other people on the right. I think Alex 526 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: is going too far on the vaccines. I think Alex 527 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: is you know, he's lost it on this one. Even 528 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: some people that were open to you know, your initial research. 529 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: Is this even more of a collapse of the vaccine 530 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: biden mandate regime than you had anticipated. God, I mean, 531 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, on the one hand, yes, On the other hand, people, 532 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: So there's sort of two things happening. Right. Everybody knows, right, 533 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: everybody knows that the vaccines don't really work right at best, 534 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: and that's why people won't get We talked about this 535 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: in the past. That's why people are not getting their 536 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: kids vaccinated. That's why vaccine demand has collapsed. On the 537 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: other hand, you still have to sort of I mean 538 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't and you don't, but people will still sort 539 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: of throw out. But they do protect against severe disease 540 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: and death, and frankly, for that at this point is 541 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: essentially close to nail if you really know what the 542 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: data says. Um so, so, I mean, I guess, I 543 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: guess we don't even need to have that fight, though. 544 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: I guess you're right. As long as nobody's getting the shots. 545 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: That's that's people knowing the truth, whether they want to 546 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: talk about it or not. You know, But Alex, I 547 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: actually think that you just mentioned that we're going to 548 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: spend five billion dollars on a lot of boosters that 549 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: nobody wants. And I'm sure you've seen the articles about 550 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: the Maderna executives who are buying multimillion dollar estates and 551 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: fancy housing. Certainly that's happening at Visor as well. With 552 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: what they're paying these top people. I think we do 553 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: need some sort of recompense here. And I know, and 554 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: this has been something that you've talked about and we've 555 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: hammered on this show. Right now, you can't sue over 556 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: anything that go wrong with these shots, which should have 557 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: been terrifying in the first place for anybody out there 558 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: thinking about taking them. But shouldn't there be some investigations, 559 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: like if the Republicans take the House and maybe the Senate, 560 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: but certainly the House at a minimum, shouldn't we have 561 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: a real investigation into how this money got spent the failure, 562 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: And frankly, I think that there should be potentially criminal 563 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: investigations because it seems quite clear, and I'm curious if 564 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: you agree with this. It seems quite clear that we 565 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: were fraudulently induced to take these shots, and that there 566 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: has to be substantial evidence of fraud inside of Maderna 567 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: and Fizer over the fact that these things were not 568 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: working while they were getting people fired for refusing to 569 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: take them, right, I feel like there needs to be 570 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: some consequence other than everybody just says, Haha, these don't work, 571 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: we're not going to take them anymore. Well, they're still 572 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: making billions of dollars and people still lost their jobs. 573 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: So look, I mean, we need to investigate whether or 574 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: not there was criminal behavior or anything like that. I'm 575 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: sort of not prepared to go there at this point. 576 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Here's where you have to remember last year that this 577 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: collapse happened extremely fast, the collapse of vaccine efficacy. Okay, 578 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: these vaccines were only invented in the spring of twenty twenty. 579 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: They were only put into people's arms beginning in the 580 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: summer of twenty twenty. By November, it was suddenly they 581 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: were a miracle. Okay, So the companies were only a 582 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: few weeks or months, a couple months and most ahead 583 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: of everybody else. The reason that I know, the reason 584 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: that like I, you know, was so loud in sounding 585 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: the alarm in the spring of twenty twenty wasn't that 586 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: I knew something was wrong. Is that I knew that 587 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: the data wasn't there to support what the companies were saying. 588 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: But it wasn't just the companies, it was the public 589 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: health authorities, and then over the summer it became clear 590 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: that efficacy was going to collapse much faster than people thought, 591 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: and became clear out of data, because of data out 592 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: of Israel. The crime here, I mean, and crime is 593 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: sort of the wrong word, but let's say crime. The 594 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 1: crime here isn't what we know. It's that we don't 595 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: know what we don't know. And the companies haven't been 596 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: forced to collect the data properly. They haven't been forced. 597 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: So there's a study that came out a couple of 598 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: days ago showing that the vaccine seemed to have some 599 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: heart impact on a lot of teenagers. Okay, out of Thailand. 600 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: Now we already knew that myo Kardiitisan chartdis are risk 601 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: for young people who get these shots. Okay, this study 602 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: wasn't that big, It wasn't definitive, but you know, it 603 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: adds to the questions about whether or not any teenager 604 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: or any young adults should be getting the shots. That's good. 605 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: Why was this done, you know, you know, out of 606 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: a time military hospital. Why wasn't Maturner required to do 607 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: this last year? Why didn't the NIH do this itself 608 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: last year. Why why are we spending a billion dollars 609 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: plus on long COVID, which, which I will continue to 610 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: insist at the end of my days, is basically non existent. 611 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: And you know it's it's it's yet another sort of 612 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: like made up syndrome looking for insurance dollars and drug 613 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: company dollars. I mean, yeah, and sympathy online. By the way, 614 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: people love to talk about, oh, my long COVID, and 615 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: then they get all the comments about I'll be brave 616 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: push through your long COVID, as in, you know you're 617 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: a little depressed m alex before I let you go. Lastly, 618 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: but why why don't we why didn't we spend the 619 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: money to figure out about myralkroditis? Yeah, we don't want 620 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: any answers here. I mean, you know Fauci's is going 621 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: around dressed like a hipster talking about the Faucci effect. 622 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean, anybody who still believes that guy is anything 623 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: works anything other than the worst public health official in 624 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: the history I think of the modern world, is out 625 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: of their minds. But I did want to ask you 626 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: quickly because you alluded to this and I saw some 627 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: study out of Iceland. I don't know if it's you know, 628 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: real deal. I know you read all the studies that 629 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: suggests negative efficacy, as in, there is a concern that 630 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: you could be more likely to contract a strain of 631 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: COVID based on if you've gotten X number of shots. 632 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: Is where are we on that? Is there a real 633 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: data to support negative efficacy? I've read the other some study, 634 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: it's real, it's good. It's a national level study from 635 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: a rich country that a smart scientists. Yeah, what that 636 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: says is if you were infected and then vaccinated, you 637 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: have a better chance of getting COVID than if you're 638 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: infected and did not get vaccinated. I mean, it's really 639 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: amazing how bad the vaccines are turning out to be. 640 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: But this is what happens when you rush a technology 641 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: that basically didn't exist and put it in a billion 642 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: people after a couple of months of research. It's a 643 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: bad idea and we would have been lucky, very lucky 644 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: if none of this had happened. Instead, we're just getting 645 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: what you would expect. And by one last thing, I know, 646 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: I got to go. I know you guys are sure 647 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: on time. The all cosmortality numbers are bad. They are 648 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: bad all over the world. In the MR and a countryes. 649 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: What I mean is for months now in the UK, 650 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: in Australia, in Germany and a lot of countries that 651 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: collect data better than we do, they're seeing a rise 652 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: in overall death counts, not a huge rise, but a 653 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: five ten percent rise in non COVID deaths. That that 654 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 1: is strikingly correlated to the you know, to the mass 655 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: vaccination care and and alex isn't that also even younger 656 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: people right like eighteen to forty nine, you're seeing some 657 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: of the highest increases in you know, sort of unexplained 658 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: death relative to expectations. So that's gotten thrown around a 659 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: lot because there's this one insurance company, uh, you know, Executi. 660 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: If we talked about that, it's not actually clear to 661 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: me that that's true. Although actually in the next few 662 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: minutes I'm going to have a subspect that people are 663 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna strike people about some data out of 664 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: New Zealand. Um. So, so look, older people die it 665 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: much much higher rates than younger people, so you can 666 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: see it more clearly and there's less statistical noise. But 667 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: when you when you look around the world, this is 668 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: something that we should be talking about that but how 669 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: are the public health parties going to admit this? If 670 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: it's a problem, that's how do they admit? Hey, you know, 671 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: maybe we caused a five percent increase in overall death worldwide. Man, 672 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: go check out Alex's substack. Everybody subscribed to its support 673 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: his work. Pick up a copy of Pandemia Alex. You 674 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: know we'll have you back soon. Thanks so much. Thanks guys. 675 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: Will we see the stock market respond well to quarter 676 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: of the earnings coming out this week from places like 677 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: Walmart and other major companies? Maybe is it enough to 678 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: put your complete trust and faith at your four oh 679 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: one K and savings account are going to be in 680 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: good shape? No way, We're still in a scary time 681 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: and a new plan is needed, a plan to shield 682 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,959 Speaker 1: ourselves as best as we can from the unexpected highs 683 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: and lows. My own plan includes increased ownership of gold 684 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,959 Speaker 1: and silver. Both have been proven over time to hold 685 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: their value in markets. Act like they've been acting. I 686 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: rely on the Oxford Gold Group for gold purchases. They're 687 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: the industry leader for so many reasons. Their advice, their 688 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: best pricing garrett, their ability to deliver real gold all 689 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: contribute to that designation. 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Cannot week to be 699 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: out there where we are number one in the markets 700 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: and you're spending a lot of time in Florida. I'm 701 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: spending a lot of time in Florida. Pole results have 702 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: come out in the last couple of hours University of 703 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: North Florida. One of the polls not particularly surprising. Florida 704 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: Governor RHN de Santis up seven points on Nicky Freed, 705 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: up eight points on Charlie Christ. Democrats still have to pick. 706 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: They're running uh their nominee and the Democrats when they do, 707 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: by the way, you're going to see that Desantist number 708 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: go up a couple of points. Just when we know 709 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: who the Democrat nominee is. I think it'll be Charlie Christ. 710 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: He seems to be kind of running away with it 711 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: in many water running in Florida for the last hundred 712 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: years from what I can understand. Here's here's a good 713 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: example of this. Buck two different poles in Florida today, 714 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at real clear politics. I love looking 715 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: at polls. I'm a nerd. They post these new every day. 716 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: In Saint Petersburg they did a pole Saint Pete poles, 717 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Christ up thirty two points over Nicky Freed in 718 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: the Democrat shot. Okay, in the University of North Florida pole, 719 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: Nicky Freed up four points. They came out the same day, 720 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: a thirty six point poll old difference and a difference 721 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: in who would win. So that's kind of hard to explain. 722 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: And it brings me to this. We've been talking a 723 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 1: lot about the Senate. Which one do you think? Which 724 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: one do you think is right? I mean, I'm not following. 725 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: I've never looked at a poll before. Between the two 726 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: of them, the assumption has been that Freed is the 727 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: Agricultural Commissioner and she's to make a lot of noise. 728 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: I think people realize she's a little um off. And 729 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: then there's uh, you know, old man Chris, who's just 730 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: been around forever. Yeah, I think Chris is probably going 731 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: to be the nominee. Yeah, but the fact that we 732 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: got thirty six point difference ties me in here. They've 733 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: got Rubio down to Val Demmings in the Senate race. Now, 734 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: I do not believe this is accurate, but you're probably 735 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: going to see this start to ricochet around because Democrats 736 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: want to sell the idea that they have tremendous momentum. Right, 737 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: they're trying to sell this idea joementum Joe Biden passed 738 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: the House and the Senate bill. They're trying to sell 739 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: the idea that he's on the comeback trail. And so 740 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that this Pole is going to get 741 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: a lot of attention. Val Demmings. They have her up 742 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: four points over Rubio. University of North Florida Pole. Now, 743 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: the reason why I want to share with you, I 744 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: don't want to run from it because the Senate is folks, 745 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. I look, doctor Oz. Did you 746 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: see the doctor Oz commercial where he goes in the 747 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: campaign thing where he goes in and talk about the 748 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: price of things, and he's asking about what he needs 749 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: to buy for his crew. Detay, I mean it's like 750 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: he should go in there and ask if they have 751 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: any great poupon. This was not not good, right, I 752 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: mean the team here, you guys saw it, right, doctor 753 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: doctor Oz. I know you talked to him last week 754 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: when I was out. Yeah, we had him on. He 755 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: was great on the show. Well yeah, look, he's super compelling. 756 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: He's been crazy successful in media. But as his campaign 757 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: is going here, Clay, if some people are starting to 758 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: say he's down almost double digits defended, looks like he doesn't, 759 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: you know, look shaky and he's not an old guy. 760 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: He just looks shaky. He had a serious health event recently. Yeah, 761 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: he had a stroke. And Fetterman cannot speak and doctor 762 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: Oz has challenged him to five different debates. I don't 763 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 1: think that Fetterman is going to be able to debate. 764 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be even more aggressive in 765 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania trying to hide him than they did with Joe 766 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: Biden in the twenty presidential election, except Fetterman is even 767 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: in worse shape than Biden was, so Pennsylvania is going 768 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: to be a mess. We've got a big battle going 769 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: on in Wisconsin. Georgia certainly we know about, and Nevada. 770 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: Hopefully New Hampshire can end up being competitive. They're picking 771 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: a nominee here soon and and then Arizona. But if 772 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: you have been out there and you've been of the belief, hey, 773 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: there's a huge red wave coming, we don't really need 774 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: to worry about it too much. I don't need to 775 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: get active. I don't need to speak out in the 776 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: Senate in particular, that is not necessarily going to be 777 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: the case. You need to be as aggressive as you can. 778 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: We're speaking to with this show, millions of voters across 779 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: the country. We're speaking to conservative and Republican activists, people 780 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: that are doing a lot of grassroots organizing, people that 781 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: are fired up and try to create a ground swell 782 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: of support for the right candidates, whether it's for the 783 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: school board all the way up to Senate seats. In 784 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: this election, this is not the time to coast. This 785 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: is when you know you're kicking hard at the end 786 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: of the race. This is when it's a time to 787 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: absolutely hit the afterburner because it's looking pretty good. For 788 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: Jade events in Ohio. But it's not a sure thing. 789 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: It's very tight. I think he's gonna be all right, 790 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: but La Salt, I think he's gonna win in Nevada, 791 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: but that one's gonna be close. Blake Masters strong candidate 792 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: Steep Harald Decline against Mark Kelly, the incumbent, and then 793 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: you get into Herschel v Van Jones in Georgia and 794 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: arna Os versus Feederman in Pennsylvania. Those are tough ones, man, 795 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: those are Reverend Warnock has been a has been a 796 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: poor candidate who managed to win once. And we'll see 797 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: what We'll see what ends up happening in that next one. 798 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: And so this is going to be a real challenge 799 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: to see exactly what's going to happen there. And um, 800 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: I just I don't think you can overrate how competitive 801 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: a bunch of these are going to be. And look this, 802 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: this this Rubio versus Val Dimmings raced down in Florida 803 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: is gonna get trumpeted. So I just want you to 804 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: hear from us as these polls are coming out. We're 805 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: gonna try to keep you apprize of everything. And that's 806 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 1: why I think it's so important to stay focused on this, 807 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: and I look, I think, I know it's a Republican seat, 808 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: but not really up in Alaska. That's the problem. You know, 809 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, you win some, you lose some with Murkowski 810 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: on the Republican side, which is why I think Shamba 811 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: would be It really would be almost like a Republican 812 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: pickup if she can win that seat, because you can 813 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: count so much more on her for judicial nominees. You're 814 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: talking about this, the House goes to Republicans likely, everyone thinks, 815 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: so off your election. Okay, great, that slows down the 816 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: Biden agenda for sure, and that's a good thing, but 817 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't stop it. And if you have a Supreme 818 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: Court vacancy or even just federal circuit courts, that will 819 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: be Oh, they will stack these circuit courts with the 820 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: most activist left wing lunatics they possibly can, and they'll 821 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: they'll put in more of these nominees to head the 822 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: federal agencies to use those the fourth branch of government, 823 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: the federal agencies, to push Biden agenda items. So a 824 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: senators there, it's obviously to say it's important as an understatement, 825 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: and it's obvious, but it's not looking like it did 826 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: a couple months ago where you know, we're talking about 827 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: the Red Wave, the Annihilation play in May and June. Yeah, Democrats, 828 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: we knew they had a bag of tricks and they're 829 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 1: reaching deep into it. Well. And look, the other thing 830 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: is if they control the Senate. I hate to say it, 831 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: but you never know. Clarence Thomas seventy four years old. Buck, 832 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: You've got John Roberts. I mean he's coming up on 833 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: sixty eight. Alito is seventy two, going on seventy three. 834 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people out there. When you 835 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: get into your seventies, we know this just happens. Unfortunately, 836 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: people can have unexpected health related issues. And this is 837 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: a real issue in terms of being able to be 838 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: a check on the Biden administration and their agenda. And 839 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: it's not going to be a cakewalk. People need to 840 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: be super active and aware of how much of a 841 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: battle this is going to be in many parts of 842 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: the country. One can I ask you a question before 843 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: we we're gonna go to break, maybe if you want 844 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: to come back to it, we can. That's what we 845 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: call it teas in the business. Is it better for 846 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: pure bare knuckle political purposes if they're going to indict Trump. 847 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: Do they want to do it before this midterm election 848 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: or after to see how the chips may fall on 849 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: the midterm without poking the bear further. Do you want 850 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: to take that because yeah, we'll talk about it. Ask me. 851 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious. Yeah, I think the timing on the idea 852 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: of an indictment, if it were going to come before 853 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: or after the midterms, is a really interesting one. We'll 854 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: talk about it in a minute. We come back in 855 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: the meantime. This morning, a police officer in Miami's in 856 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 1: critical condition after being shot last night on the job 857 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: chasing an armed robber. We could bring you a story 858 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: like this every day, which is why Buck and I 859 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: support the Tunnel the Towers Foundation. They deliver on their 860 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: promise to never forget the sacrifices of America's heroes. 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