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Speaker 1: R and B Money, Honey, we are.

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Speaker 2: Thanks take MELOCHI.

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Speaker 1: We are the authority on all things R and B

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: My name is tam Day Balenti.

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Speaker 1: This is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority

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Speaker 1: they know, they know on all things.

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Speaker 3: All things, all thing. Yeah, R and B. Yeah, don't

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Speaker 3: get caught up.

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Speaker 1: Stop telling me you right here records, Yeah, yeah, stop

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Speaker 1: being me.

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Speaker 3: They're telling me you right hit records.

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Speaker 4: Hello, they're right here.

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Speaker 5: Records every day every day because every day is what

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Speaker 5: what your birthday?

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Speaker 3: I want to write it happy birthday himself.

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Speaker 1: You ain't ever gonna have the song stolen from you

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Speaker 1: at twelve on a million copies.

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Speaker 3: That happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm yelling.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Thanks having me, man, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: You do this ship? Was that your year? That's not yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, bro, like you know, our pod is is

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Speaker 1: a flower pod to give you the flowers.

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Speaker 2: You so right. I don't know if we have enough

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Speaker 5: Already said we didn't have enough room on we didn't

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Speaker 5: have enough he said, what are those?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: It's so much information and so much great musical conversation

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Speaker 1: that hopefully we can get to some of it. We

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to get to most of it

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Speaker 1: because we would be here for a few days.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we do a part two. Maybe that could be

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Speaker 3: the first part to what we should do is.

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Speaker 2: We should do this.

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Speaker 5: As hard as it was to get him to come

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Speaker 5: on this podcast, he don't do this ship he like

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Speaker 5: he already said.

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Speaker 3: But this is special. I think what you guys are doing,

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Speaker 3: it's such a magical environment. I think it's it's just

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Speaker 3: think it's very important, it's very needed, and it's something

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Speaker 3: that's been missing, you know, for a while. So I

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Speaker 3: applaud you.

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Speaker 1: Guys, Thank you, thank you. I think we I think

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Speaker 1: we do this. And then I think the other piece

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Speaker 1: of information is if you haven't even done it yet,

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Speaker 1: is people need to really see you at work.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 2: The idea behind like like.

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Speaker 1: Like like what Jason Joshua Joshua does when people actually

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Speaker 3: In action action. Yeah, I would love that because that's yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the magic. That's the magic that's different, and that

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Speaker 3: is exactly what you are. Brother. Oh thank you man,

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So let's get let's let's get into you know.

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Speaker 5: R the way you were able to invess something, which

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Speaker 5: it starts with Yes, listen, I want to go back

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Speaker 5: to the beginning, because what you the story of you

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Speaker 5: rapping a song at twelve?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, having it, having the lyrics word for word, bar

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they borrowed them. Did you ever get the Soldier.

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Speaker 2: And go platinum with it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, man, I was. I was twelve in a

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Speaker 3: with that hood. No, it was embarrassing. You know why

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Speaker 3: we embraced it as kids because Red from ABC came

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Speaker 3: I'm like it was eight years old to twelve on

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three, ninety two, I was twelve years old.

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Speaker 3: Read was thirteen, and Read was my manager. Strange enough, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, it's called big business, yeah man, because

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Speaker 3: So and I actually, you know, I mean, I wrote

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Speaker 3: He kept throughout the day, kept saying me, like, have

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Speaker 3: six months, like man, that was my manager. Now he's

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Speaker 3: remember that rap you recited to me. He's like, I

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Speaker 3: think it's on this album that Michael Bivens put out

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Speaker 3: on the Big ten compilation All for One, One for All.

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Speaker 3: That was the first single off for It was like,

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Speaker 3: up the credits. And then I looked at the credits

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Speaker 3: And then I didn't get credit. Read didn't credit. The

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Speaker 3: I just happened to be twelve years old. It was

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Speaker 5: Any ideas of like, I gotta get to somebody to

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Speaker 3: I I didn't even think about that because I just

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Speaker 3: I kept that. I kept that story secret awhile because

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Speaker 3: I was like using it to show people that, like, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: you could get ripped off at a young age. There's

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Speaker 3: no there's no age limit on get ripped off. So

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Speaker 3: And then I started thinking it was it was cool

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Speaker 3: you learn from those things you learn had I learned

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Speaker 3: something serious. And then it took my cousin, Courtney Bear.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys know Big Big Bear

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Speaker 3: who discovered one twelve and Jagged Edge at one talent show.

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Speaker 3: Mike right now. He discovered at one talent show Tri

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Speaker 3: on and introduced one twelve to Puff Daddy, and Puffed

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Speaker 3: went on to Social Death for Jamaina prix Man. He

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Speaker 3: I'm like wow. He was like, I'm gonna put you

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Speaker 3: me over, drops me over. Durn Jones shout out to

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Speaker 3: durran Q was there, you know, quinn Is Parker and

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Speaker 3: we created the song Anywhere. Duran had already started it

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Speaker 3: and added to the record Anywhere and that was my

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Speaker 2: Anywhere is your first hit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah man, yeah I was in high school.

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Speaker 3: I was in the eleventh grade. Yeah yeah. And mind

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Speaker 3: you when that came out, it didn't sound like anything like,

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Speaker 3: it didn't sound like anything, so might be what it was.

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Speaker 3: What sample is that it's interpolation original? That was Iran

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Speaker 3: Duran didn't sample nothing. The only thing that you're talking

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Speaker 3: about the replay was a wicked wicked, wicked. It's over now,

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Speaker 3: it's ober now. That was Mob Deep. Wiga wiga wigga

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Speaker 3: wiggle wiggle. That's the only got Anywhere was straight original.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, Barn Barron. But the one they

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Speaker 3: did rip was the that Mob Deep. Remember that It's

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Speaker 3: over now? Yeah? Yeah man, yeah yeah yeah, he too

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Speaker 3: hot to stop. Yeah man, that's your question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I can backtrack for a second, Okay, did

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Speaker 1: you hearing your rap, your lyrics on on that ABC song,

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Speaker 1: did that give you an indicator that you could really

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Speaker 1: into the idea of being able to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I really that never really registered what happened

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Speaker 3: And I never forget, like, get my first little ask

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Speaker 3: I never forget that. I was like, went in there

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Speaker 5: So I had anybody in a position to move you forward,

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Speaker 3: was like it was always like drug dealers, man, Thank

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Speaker 4: Shout out to the dope boys. Listen, we all come

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because they was our first investors. Absolutely, you

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Speaker 3: but yeah they got for that. And then yeah, what

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Speaker 3: pray this. He gave me my first record deal in

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Speaker 3: I'm still a high school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't fully understand what comes along with the business.

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Speaker 3: Nah, I didn't even know what. I didn't eve know

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Speaker 3: My cousin was like, you could make money. I'm like

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Speaker 4: They showing you these contracts?

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Speaker 3: So it was no contract, well my record contract. No.

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Speaker 3: In my production contract he was taking fifty percent of

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Speaker 3: That's my family. Yeah, Bro, I turned nineteen. DMF Man me,

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Speaker 3: I was there. Yeah, and me. She used to always

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Speaker 3: like Pops he did fourteen year he did a bid

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Speaker 3: we go to jail, I need you to help turn

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Speaker 3: Meach gave me his life rights, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And I went I had no clue. He was like,

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Speaker 3: I had did Peaches and Cream danced with me. So

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Speaker 3: energy over them, like they were just like you know,

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Speaker 3: oh well, I was eighteen. That was like cracking. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know anybody in the in

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Speaker 3: He was the first one that wasn't afraid to entertain.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was like, nah, I want to I want to repercussions.

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Speaker 3: I was like, there's no percussions, Like they're not killers.

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Speaker 3: They were. They were the only crew to unite all

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Speaker 3: to leave your ego, leave your colors behind, and come

436
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 3: get money. So you know that right there, I got it,

437
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: brought it to James the Bowls and then from there,

438
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: it took its channels to fifty cent, So thank god.

439
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: And Mitch's whole plan was I want to pay taxes

440
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 3: one to day. He's like, when I get out, I

441
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 3: want to pay taxes. He's like, I don't want to

442
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 3: live that life. And so, you know, shout out to

443
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: fifty the Curtis man for making that that come true

444
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 3: and sending little young young meats to acting school. And

445
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean that was it's been a blessing,

446
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 3: And thank you fifty cent. You know what I mean,

447
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 3: because I used to sleep on the floor and be

448
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: a meth like out in out here. You know what

449
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you know, in the valley. Then we went

450
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: to the Marino Valley, and then you know what I'm saying.

451
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: Then it was a time when they separated. The brothers

452
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: split up in two thousand, two thousand, they split up,

453
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: and Meach was like, whoever come with me, come with me,

454
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 3: whoever stay with my brother, stay with my brother. And

455
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: I stayed with me, and in my group, I started

456
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: getting real jealous because of my success as a songwriter

457
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 3: and never started calling me Hollywood. I was never Hollywood, bro.

458
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm still same right now, I got

459
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

460
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 6: Shout out to the fact. Yeah no, yeah no. But yeah,

461
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 6: that was like, you.

462
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 3: Know, it's hard to write the record. Come on, man,

463
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: ship that's you know, that's a bunch of steps. But nonetheless, man,

464
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: I like being f They they were there for me. Man,

465
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: we were you know, we worked, we did. It took

466
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 3: a minute. I was like, hey, man, when we gonna record?

467
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 3: He was like, you'll want to record? He signed the

468
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: record deal with you, so we didn't understand. But we

469
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 3: were kind of like a like a like a flex

470
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 3: almost like it was like it was a label. Yeah.

471
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 3: But I was like, so, wait, when are we gonna record?

472
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: Because I see y'all spending eighty thousand every night in

473
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: the strip club. We go to the strip club. They

474
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: would hand us money and I'd be like, I can't

475
00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: really throw this, and I would throw like thirteen dollars.

476
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: I would thirt thirteen singles out of the hunting and

477
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 3: be like, all right, nobody's gonna notice that. I ain't

478
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: throw my whole hunting. You know what I'm saying? Going

479
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: to my find, Yeah, I'm pocketed. Yeah, I did dedicated.

480
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: I invested thirteen dollars into the dancers. But I just, man,

481
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: they always liked the shout out be a meth man

482
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 3: and like the image that they tried to paint. They

483
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: weren't violent. You know, everybody protects themselves no matter what

484
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't mean you're violent, and they were

485
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: about you know, they were the last you know, ones

486
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 3: to do it on that level. That brought all of

487
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 3: our cultures together. Man, like it's dope. It was an

488
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: amazing example of like, even though it was in that world,

489
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: it just showed unity and show how powerful we could

490
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: be if we come together, no matter what kang we're from.

491
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 3: And I just you know, I'm I'm I'm superly Like,

492
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm really blessed that they were able to turn it

493
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: and fifty cent was able to make that a successful

494
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: show man, just because that was Mich's dream. That was

495
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: all always meet. His dream was like, yo, I want

496
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: to I want to want my story to be told

497
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: the right way, and I want to come out and

498
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 3: pay taxes. So everything set up for him to do

499
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: just that. Man. So yeah, but that was the part.

500
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: Like we go back to the investment. It was the

501
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: Dope Boys, and I was like, man, you spend man.

502
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: I just seen you spend five hundred thousand in this

503
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 3: trip club last week. Can we record? And he was

504
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: like yeah, he's like you want to record? I was like, yeah,

505
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: that's where we signed a recording contract with you guys. Right,

506
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: So he was like, all right, set up the studio.

507
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: So where did I go? What did I do? The

508
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: first session we did was Circle House, so I'm the

509
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: first ones to bring being met down the Circle House

510
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 3: and then we booked it. Then that's when I never forget.

511
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: Diddy was there and he was walking. He was like,

512
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: hey man, you liked the studio. I was like, it's

513
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: the only mind you said. Circle House was my first

514
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: session studio ever worked at. When I was twelve years old.

515
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: We mixed down that music from Young Harmony at the

516
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 3: Circle House. So I was there in ninety two too,

517
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: to Miami too. Well yeah, Michael with Michael Jackson with

518
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: Jungle Juice took us to Miami to mix with Lewis

519
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: DS who discovered pit Bull, Yes, Louis d Yes Brothers. Yes.

520
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: So he mixed down my first single. He mixed down

521
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: our first single when I was twelve, nineteen ninety two.

522
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: It was it was just mango trees and rock wellers

523
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: back there. No pool no, no no house like pool House.

524
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 3: So I talked niche in the like letting us go

525
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: record there. So I booked the tour bus, I bought

526
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: the study sessions, and then from there that's when I realized, like, man,

527
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: we might we might be up front. I was like,

528
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: when you realize, yeah, I was like, I don't think

529
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: we ever coming out. I was like, I think we

530
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: just looked good and they'd be like, I got a

531
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: group there, Blue Daventure was rapping. You know what I'm saying.

532
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe we never coming out. Yeah, And then

533
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 3: all the you know, all the indictments started, and that's

534
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 3: when me was like, look, man, he always told me

535
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 3: this throughout the years, like we're all going to jail,

536
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: except for you. Ended up getting their time. Everybody got

537
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: their time, and you know, dude should be getting home

538
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: and uh in a few months. So that's a blessing.

539
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: And when he comes home, he's gonna come home exactly

540
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: the way he wanted to, with you know, his story

541
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: being out there and him being able to pay some

542
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: taxes as a publisher at the time.

543
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: Ethiopia is like yo, Pool Beard he called is.

544
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: What happy birthday? I never knew you felt like that

545
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: about me. Thank you from about on my heart, No

546
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: for real, bro.

547
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 5: And when she started mentioning him one twelve records, I'm like, oh, yeah,

548
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 5: I do whatever session, Oh wow, because those are my

549
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 5: commercials as young niggas, like one twelve Jagget Edge, what

550
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 5: they were on.

551
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: It was speaking to all of us.

552
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 5: And to find out that someone our age also was

553
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: writing those songs, it was like, oh yeah, no, no, no,

554
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 5: set that shu it up.

555
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: Wow man, you know what I mean. I had a

556
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: head started. I was locked in the studio at twelve,

557
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: like they used to lock me in. So I think

558
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: I had a lot to do it, you know, being

559
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: able to do those you was gonna get your ten

560
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: thousand hours no matter what. Yeah, yeah, yep. It locked

561
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: me in. So so what do you now? You got

562
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: these records?

563
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 5: Yep, you've done the artist thing a little bit, you dabbling.

564
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: At that point, I made in my mind that I

565
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: didn't want to sing. That's when that happened. Yeah, because

566
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm making All I wanted to do is

567
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: buy my mom my house with my grandmama after hood.

568
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: So thank god I turned nineteen and I did those records,

569
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: and then my cousin was like, look, you're gonna do

570
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: a co pubs in deal, but wait till you got

571
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: two number one. So when Peaches of Cream came out,

572
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: that was my second number one. I was nineteen and

573
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: I did a pub I didn't anything. It is the

574
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: first number one anywhere was R and B up on

575
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: the R and B charts, yep, yep, and then Peaches

576
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: on the R and B charts.

577
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: So you walked in.

578
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: I was so crazy because I was with La Read

579
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: yesterday and I'm like, bro, you gave me my first

580
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: publishing deal when I was like nineteen years old. You

581
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 3: gave my first six figure check.

582
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: You walked in.

583
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what year is this, uh ninety.

584
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: Nine with two number one? Yeah at that time, yeah, yeah,

585
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: And I can only imagine.

586
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 5: You know, And they were already popping that ship about

587
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 5: you though, bro, Like this is the other part, right,

588
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 5: because who was popping shit? Billy Callaway, Billy Stewarts and

589
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 5: sure like, because you know it was this is all

590
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 5: family for me, Like sorry, that's bad, so for like everybody,

591
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: And that's the thing that most of the writers and

592
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 5: artists don't know. Sometimes the people that are cheerleading for

593
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 5: you and that I'm pushing. I never knew to the

594
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 5: rest of the industry, you know what I'm saying, because

595
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: like you said, you're keeping.

596
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: Your head down, you work, you're working. I never knew.

597
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 5: But these people who I if they said somebody was gold, Yeah,

598
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 5: they was gold to make go right. So all of

599
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 5: these people are already like yo, poop and poop and

600
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 5: poop by bro your name Wow, it was moving wow.

601
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: And that was dead. That was ninety nine, two thousand. Yeah. Yeah,

602
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Now you do to deal with hiccough. I I did

603
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: my first deal with Hiccolls telling Eli read yesterday, I

604
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: was like, man, thank you man for believing in me.

605
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: You know, that was my first deal. And I was

606
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: able then to go and move my mom and grandma

607
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: out of that that two bedroom apartment and move him

608
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: into a house in tenth on the tenth course, tenth

609
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: hold of a golf course. Yeah, and I've never did

610
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: my grandma. I never forget moving her, was putting her

611
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: a little in her bed. I put a boy the

612
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: hospital bed, moved it right in there because I refused

613
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: to put anybody in an old folks home or retirement

614
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: whatever that was called. And I put her right looking

615
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: at the lake on the tenth hole of a golf course.

616
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: And then I was like, I told you, and she

617
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: was just like dying. But she died in that house.

618
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: She got a chance to see my hard work, me

619
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: standing out all night, sleeping on the floor, me telling

620
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: her like, I'm gonna move us out of here. She

621
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: got to see it happen. So for me, that was

622
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: like I never really cared about being famous or none

623
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: of that. I just wouldn't buy my mind as wanted

624
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: to move my mom and my grandma out the hood.

625
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: But that's amazing, bro. So that was my whole thing.

626
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: So once I did that, I was like, okay, so

627
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: now it's my new tribe right now what drives me now?

628
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: And it was just like they just don't. People don't

629
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: think I could do it again. And it turned into

630
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: I just got to prove this to myself that I

631
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: could do it again. Because the average lifespan of a

632
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: writer is two years. Producer writers two years. You get

633
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: it hit, you get hot, everybody cheerleads you, then you

634
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: start celebrating, you get caught up in it. But it's

635
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: somebody else working twice as hard as you, and they

636
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: come out with two hits. Now their sound is popping,

637
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: and you're done forever. So in my mind I was like,

638
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to be done forever. And I always

639
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: had this fear of like what happens if my sound go?

640
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: And I didn't even realize that I was creating a sound.

641
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to listen to secular music as a kid,

642
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: So that's why you can't compare my songs to anything

643
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: like you can't what the peaches and cream sound like nothing?

644
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: But it anywhere sound like nothing? What does? What? Where

645
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: are you now that I need you? Sound like nothing?

646
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: So and that happened because I wasn't allowed to listen

647
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: to secular music. So I wasn't I had zero influence.

648
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: I was allowed to listen to trumpet Christian trumpet music

649
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: by a guy named Phil Drisco. He was a trumpeteer

650
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: and so Christian Christian trumpet music that was all I

651
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: was allowed to listen to. That was the thing because

652
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: I ended up playing the trumpet in the market in

653
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: the band from a church kid.

654
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 4: So you understand you've never heard of Christian trumph.

655
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Phil Drisco. Look him up. He's still out right

656
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: now playing trump He got be like a hundred, but

657
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: he playing the trumpet, Bill Drisco. He made me, And

658
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: of course I ended up playing the trumpet in the

659
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: concert band, playing trumpet in the marching band. So but

660
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: it was because of my influence that was all I

661
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: was allowed to hear. So when I was going to

662
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: the studio to make songs, they sound.

663
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: It didn't sound like nothing else.

664
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: So in my mind, I'm like, this is garbage, you

665
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I was like, spend a

666
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: year I thought I was garbage because I couldn't make

667
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: a song that reminded us. And that's how people still

668
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: to this day. Most people they don't realize that they're

669
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: doing this, but when they listen to a song, they're

670
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: subliminally comparing it to something else and in order for

671
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: them to be like I love That's like why it

672
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: made me feel like that Marvin Garrol made me feel

673
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: so knowing that it made it. It was that much

674
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: of an uphill battle because I had zero influence. It

675
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: helped me in the law room from lawsuits because nobody

676
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: can ever say I stole that melodies because it's all

677
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: my own I created my own melodies. But at the time,

678
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: I was like, I suck, and I was like, I

679
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: just got to keep getting this garbage out of my

680
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: system because eventually something good is gonna come. Nothing good

681
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: really came. One twelfth Duran Jones started to believe in

682
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: me and he was like, nah, bro, you're good. I

683
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: was like, nah, man, it's like this sucks. And then

684
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: that's where we can do it anywhere. Pink Love is

685
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: such a crazy thing on that album when she was Burgundy,

686
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: and it gave me enough hope and I was like, well,

687
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: maybe they just tell me that because they're nice man.

688
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: Like nah, And then we worked on They brought me

689
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: on tour. I didn't graduate from high school. I went

690
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: they used me, Bro. I was singing all God bless

691
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: a child every day for everybody. You know how they

692
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: used you to be the representation for anybody. Then I

693
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: get to the twelfth grade. Mind you, I had already

694
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: made a pe in summer school in the eleventh grade. Yeah,

695
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: so in my mind I got to hit record already.

696
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: I ain't tell anybody that knows nah, but one twelve

697
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: used to pick me up, like each one of them

698
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: used to come and pick me up in school and

699
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: they'd be like, hey, man, I think I seen Slim

700
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: pick you up yesterday. I was like probably. And then

701
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: I had a bad boy jacket. You remember the bad

702
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: boy jacket with the baby. I had one. You know

703
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So you and school with a.

704
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: Boy they let her by one twelve.

705
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I still didn't tell you by because

706
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: I didn't want any of anybody to feel like I

707
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: thought I was all that because I had a song

708
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: on the radio. Yeah. Now, my science teacher, mister Block,

709
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: rest in peace. I guess he used to tell me

710
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: you suck. He used to say this verbatim. He's like,

711
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 3: mister boyd, I need you to start paying attention in

712
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: my class because you only one percent people make it

713
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: in the music business, and you're not that one percent.

714
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: And he told me that to this. Why you said

715
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: western piece, I guess because that's because as he's saying

716
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: that to me, anywhere was in heavy rotation. Every hour.

717
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: I could have told him to be like yo if

718
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: he turned on B one on three right now, yeah

719
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: here anywhere, because it was every hour. You don't know this,

720
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm not it's not me. It's not

721
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: in my place to say this, but all right, I'd

722
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 3: already been. I had already became the one percent while

723
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: I was in school. I had I had a record

724
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: on the radio and heavy rotation. I got ask captain

725
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: words when I was in high school. You know what

726
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So he was saying this. And I never

727
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: told anybody because I didn't want anybody to feel uncomfortable.

728
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: Because I had some success at a young age, I

729
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: kept with a secret. Nobody still nobody knew until like

730
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: later on, and people just found out, but I never

731
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't a thing. It wasn't like the rumor in school,

732
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: like oh Pooper did that anywhere. So I never told anybody,

733
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: and I just wanted to keep it a secret. And

734
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: I really just wanted to buy my mama house. Like

735
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing it for any other reason.

736
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: But I would have up in the bad Boy take that,

737
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 5: Take that yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, bad Boy.

738
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: Bring my Concubine the writer of records.

739
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 3: Solemn Yeah, but that like that was like, man, I

740
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: definitely nineteen twenty. I wasn't so I was making songs

741
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: that when I was doing them, it was so hard

742
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: to place them. We know as songwriters, Like I used

743
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: to try to write songs for artists, but then I

744
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: would make songs for myself because I always pretended to

745
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: be an artist. So when I would play the songs

746
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: that I wrote for artists, they would be like, nah,

747
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: what else you got it? Then when I play my

748
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: songs like I want all of those, I want I

749
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: want all that. Yeah, I'm like, why don't they want

750
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: the sh I'm writing for them? And really I figured out,

751
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: like artists, they don't want what they already sound like.

752
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: And yeah, here's a here's a fact.

753
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: Here's a fact.

754
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: Guys, as a writer, when you're going in, you know

755
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: you grew up hearing these artists, you don't really want

756
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: to study what they're working on, what they're doing, because

757
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: they did that already. So what I've learned is they

758
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: want what you would do for yourself. They don't want

759
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: what you think they would have done on their last album,

760
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: because that was their last album. So even if that

761
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: was a sound, it's they don't want to go for

762
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: that same sound on the next solum. So the secret

763
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: is make music for yourself. Write songs for yourself that

764
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: you love and hopes that they can resonate with that.

765
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: Don't try to make songs for the artists unless you're

766
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: with them every day and you know they're going through heartbreak,

767
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: you know they're in love, you know their story. You

768
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: can't really you're just getting in a car and driving

769
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: without having actual address to put in the in the ways.

770
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: So the ways, the actual address is the concept, that's

771
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: the idea, you know, ways to take you through the hood.

772
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 3: They take you to the hood because now they're trying

773
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: to get you to buy stuff. They're advertising pop Eyes.

774
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. They're like, you know you

775
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 3: can start know you're hungry. Yeah, out the way. It's

776
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: not the greatest in Miami. Might have had you in

777
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: the hood of Miami.

778
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 5: It took me to some dad Is and I'm like,

779
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 5: oh man, let me go ahead and.

780
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: Grab this pistol, get about it. Oh yeah, yeah, good ways.

781
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: But now make records for yourself, man, because like you think,

782
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: you're writing songs for what they what you like, what

783
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: you're used to hearing, and they want what's next. They

784
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: don't want what they did already. So I learned that

785
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: with Usher, I learned that with Chris Brown. I learned

786
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: that with Justin Biebers, Like anytime I play songs that

787
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: I think would be for them, they're like no, no, no,

788
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: like quickly, and then I play. I'm like, well, I'm

789
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: just playing something I've been working on and I'm like

790
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: I want I love that, And I'm like, but that's

791
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: too mature for you, and they're like, no, that's where

792
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: we want to go. That's mine. Yeah, my rug, but

793
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: you I had a song on the radio that this

794
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: is how humble I am. I had a song on

795
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: the radio that was heating up called Alone, and I

796
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: never forget. I just met Justin and you know, I

797
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: wrote something called Recovery and and he absolutely he heard Alone.

798
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: He was like, what's that. I was like, that's my song,

799
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: but it's on the radio right now. He was like, yeah,

800
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: I don't care about that.

801
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: What you mean that is a superstar comment here.

802
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: I was like no, I'm like, it's actually out, it's growing,

803
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's building momental Yeah, yeah,

804
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: it's like, how can I say this to understand my heart? Yeah?

805
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: My heart is this, Yes, get bigger? You know. It

806
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: didn't matter. And then and then I was in my mind,

807
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: I was like what but really, I'm a songwriter, and

808
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: I always just kept bringing myself back to I do

809
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 3: this so I can help provide a better life for

810
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: my family. And I'm like, man, you know what, you

811
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 3: can have it. So I gave him the record while

812
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: it was on while my version was on the radio,

813
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: and they went on the internet. They scrubbed it down,

814
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: they put down. The crazy part is you can still

815
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: find my version on YouTube, which is crazy, but they

816
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: literally took it off and then he cut it. And

817
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: that was like me understanding, like, you know what, this

818
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: is not about me, man, It's about me getting my

819
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: songs out there and getting my melodies and being able

820
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: to elevate my family.

821
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: Man.

822
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: And then if it's meant if I'm supposed to be

823
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: a singer and shy like I willingly, it'll happen. But

824
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: right now I want to I'm here. And I started

825
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: going through the rest of my album and then he

826
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: wanted certain songs. I was like, that's too that's nasty,

827
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: that's perverted. So then I have to think, like, instead

828
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: of saying grip tight, we all know what the grip

829
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: tight is, I was like, hold tight. So then grip

830
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: type became that hold on tight. Now I could be

831
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: a hug knowing what it really is on the double

832
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: ontang grip. So I started going in and he was

833
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: like I want that. I was like, well, maybe I'll

834
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: just started pging all of my braided R songs. And

835
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: that's where journals came from.

836
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 5: Those are like, yeah, you've given a real lesson and

837
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 5: a real manuscript to young songwriters.

838
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, and have it.

839
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 5: I for one having an understanding that as a as

840
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 5: a songwriter, that's what you're doing. You got to be

841
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: of service. Yes, you got to. You gotta take your

842
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: ego out of it.

843
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: Take an ego out of it. What is that artist? So?

844
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: What is said?

845
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: Artists need yep yep to for all of us to

846
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: succeed in this thing. Yes, and for me to take

847
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: care of my family.

848
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: That's what we're doing it for. I mean, you know,

849
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: some people want to do it to be famous. I

850
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: never really, I never wrote songs to become famous. It

851
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: was literally to create a better lifestyle. You know, I

852
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: understood throughout the years the importance of having a platform.

853
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, understand jumping on in the video.

854
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: I understood that later on, like why it was important

855
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: for creatives to put themselves out there with the world.

856
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: It became a thing. Yeah, when the producer became the star.

857
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: Before that, you had had your head down long.

858
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

859
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't tell I was about was due.

860
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: It was and it was you know, I mean years

861
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 3: and years and years.

862
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 7: Yeah.

863
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: I worked. Yeah, I mean I went, you know, with Draymondow.

864
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: They kidnapped me. They went to Philly, and that's when

865
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: I was working with Ryan Toby a lot with a

866
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: lot of come on, come on, speak on this confessions.

867
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: Speak on these confessions, because you're part of.

868
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 5: Something that if you buried it and someone found it

869
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: one hundred years later, they would understand what.

870
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: That time was.

871
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the type of album that Confessions is that

872
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 5: you are a part of that you helped create with

873
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 5: all these amazing writers and producers and the artists himself Usher.

874
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of like for me, it was

875
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: so crazy being a songwriter trying to write songs for

876
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: Usher and then finally getting to work with him. I'm like,

877
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 3: I was. We were so off, Like when you think

878
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: you're writing something like you don't have no ideas, like

879
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 3: you don't know what they're going through. Well, you just

880
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: get in the car and start driving, like where are

881
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 3: we going right now? And so like just learning that,

882
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: Like you know, the very first song that that l

883
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 3: A read demanded that Usher cut was Superstar and Ryan

884
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 3: had already composed this. I came in and added whatever

885
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: I added to it, you know what I mean. That's

886
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: Ryan had already cut and created the whole, like the

887
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: majority of it, and I just came in and put

888
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 3: faith on the bridge and you know what I'm saying.

889
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: That was amazing. But that was the first song that

890
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: Usher cut on Confessions. Then it was caught Up. Then

891
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: it was come Following Me, but it was follow me too, Yeah,

892
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: come follow Me, and that was for Yeah, that was

893
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: that was for Mario. Come Following Me was for Mario.

894
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: And then Mario passed on it, and so we played

895
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: it for Usher in New York at the studio. He

896
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: was like, he's like, what's that? You came just in time?

897
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: Runnated and other girl tell me. He's like, low that

898
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: up right now, and he cut it immediately. That was

899
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: like the first time I didn't see ushers sit there

900
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: and Twirler's ring and be like, man, I don't know,

901
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: like you never know, Usher it was you always had

902
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: great years around you that known for you. And that

903
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: was the first time he heard a song and was

904
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: like boom, cutting immediately. But you know that the process

905
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: it was, it was frightening because it was a two

906
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: year window. We started with Usher in two thousand and two.

907
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: Confessions didn't come out to four so and we were

908
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: making those records. I know, in my mind when I

909
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: was with Ryan, I was like, caught Up was like,

910
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: this is like he's talking to Chili and in my mind,

911
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, he's the new Michael Jackson. So when we

912
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: approached Caught Up, we were like, what would Michael Jackson

913
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: do right now in two thousand and two, And that's

914
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: how that's absolutely yeah. So and then he went on

915
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: and did a video to match that, you know, like

916
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 3: the Smooth Criminal that ale. He spent God, he spent

917
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: like a million two on that video. I never forget that.

918
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: But it was just interesting because in my heart, I

919
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 3: knew we weren't going to make that album because I'm like,

920
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: the songs are all to you, and because and he

921
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: wasn't with they weren't together no more. So I'm like

922
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: we made these songs based on him being with Chili.

923
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: She was the superstar, he was the groupie. He was

924
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: caught up with her. You're not like the other girls

925
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: I meet every day. These were songs were about Chili

926
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 3: from TFC, So I'm like, he's not even gonna resonate

927
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: with this, So you know, thank god, La was locked

928
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: in his mom shout out to Usher and mister n Nettterman.

929
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: She was locked in to caught up. So we had

930
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: some emotional connections to those records. And then two years

931
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: later the album comes out and the songs made the project,

932
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: and I was like, unbelievable because he was confessing now.

933
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: So I'm like it went from like being caught up

934
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: to I fucked up. It was a full story. It

935
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: was a full story. And it's crazy enough. The concept

936
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: of the album didn't come until like almost the end.

937
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, so it wasn't like we're like, oh, we

938
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: all know we need to be confessing some shit. We

939
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: didn't have a clue. And then that project, it was

940
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: like for me, it uh that I'm doing one man

941
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: that like one point one the first week and from

942
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: there it was like god Lee. Then I was sure

943
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: didn't think we were gonna have a single because they

944
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: put my boot on the on the on the what

945
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: do you call it? When the deluxe and then that

946
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: went to radio. I'm like, well, there goes our fourth single,

947
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: slide right there. Yeah, with Alicia. Then we did like

948
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: like somebody did a power move. I don't know if

949
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: Ryan told this, but drama down. Put p D crack,

950
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: you gum really put p D crack and then a

951
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: yes and did a remax of caught up and released

952
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: it and sent it to funk Flex and funk Flex

953
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: started dropping bombs on it, so we forced them to

954
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: so then it started the report started coming in on

955
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: the RAATEDEO and Mark Pitts was like caught up and

956
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: spinning on the radio, and then it forced them to

957
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: make it the fifth single, in his fifth and final single,

958
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: and then they on the video question.

959
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because you you you you got the one

960
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: twelve records, you got, you got your two number one,

961
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: you got your Buve deal, You're writing, you're doing some

962
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: great things, and then you get on an album that

963
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: sells one point one in the first first week.

964
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, how you?

965
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure you are already assault after writer, but is

966
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: there an elevation that is out of this world? When

967
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: you sell one point one the first week, because I

968
00:46:54,200 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: know there's I've experienced. Yeah, not close to one. Win't

969
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: want more like six and fifty.

970
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: And it was a leap and you and you had.

971
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: A got a Lamborghini. That's what happened. I said, I

972
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: need a Lamba along with all these other.

973
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 4: When I had my turn, I didn't buy it him

974
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: by Lambo.

975
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: It was so sad for you.

976
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: I got a kid. Yeah, you gotta get those lamb

977
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: You gotta get Lambo.

978
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: I don't know it correct.

979
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: I should have bought a Lamborghini.

980
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, So did I didn't. I was. I bought

981
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: like a seventh series BMW. But I was like, what

982
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: were the calls?

983
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: Like, like what were there were?

984
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: It was? It was interesting because true enough, man, even then,

985
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: like when you came out and I was like, man,

986
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: I need you to not I need you to put

987
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: that humble ship right. I was so used to being

988
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: like hidden and tucked away that it didn't really affect

989
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: I didn't feel the effect of it because at that

990
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: time Usher gravitated to Ryan, you know what I mean,

991
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: So it more affected Ryan you know what I mean

992
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: than me because I was like the fat guy that

993
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: was I was doing a lot, and I was doing it,

994
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: but I was always in the back of the room

995
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: because I was like trying not to be seen and

996
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: like and I were like still doing vocal producing, still writing,

997
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: but then it was like all right, once I was done,

998
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: I vanished, you know what I mean. So I didn't

999
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: really feel the effect of it like I should have.

1000
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: If I would have been more you were avoiding life.

1001
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't because I just felt like I was super

1002
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 3: I was insecure, I was obese, and I just felt

1003
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: like I didn't want anybody to feel like I was

1004
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: trying to I was seeking attention because I wasn't. I

1005
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: just wanted to continue to buy. I wanted to buy

1006
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: my mom another house. At that time, I was on

1007
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: my second, second, second house. So so it didn't really

1008
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: affect me as much as I if I would have been, like,

1009
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: let me put myself out there so people know that,

1010
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: I was, like, you didn't even know I did. Come

1011
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 3: found with me to this day, was twenty years later,

1012
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: So I didn't. I just wasn't putting myself out there

1013
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 3: enough to ride that the way that other people were doing.

1014
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 5: Like you I have, bro I know, You're never still

1015
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 5: I know, I know thiggas with records like you have.

1016
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better than me.

1017
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: People. Now, I could have easily been on every record

1018
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: life Happy Birthday.

1019
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1020
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tank and Tankeding loaded up the piano.

1021
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: I know, Man, that's what I'm saying. We might have

1022
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: to have so many Man, I might have to be

1023
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: a part two.

1024
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, you are always invited to come hang.

1025
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: Out with us, bro Man, thank you for having me. Man,

1026
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: we believe in you. It starts with the belief. That's

1027
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: one of my texts. I got all my quotes, all

1028
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: my sayings tatted on me. Man, Happy birthday, right there.

1029
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: What's the next one you said? You get nobody cares.

1030
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: Nobody cares. That's how you get through life without getting

1031
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: your feelings her, nobody cares. Go so perfect with those chords.

1032
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Brother Poop comes to a special part of our pod where.

1033
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: We get into the mind of Pool. Yes, the people

1034
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: want to know what they want to know. You've written

1035
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: a lot of jams, all the jams. You've written all

1036
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: the jams, man, But the most important jams.

1037
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 3: Would be your mm hmm top FA.

1038
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, your top five.

1039
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: Jop F, your.

1040
00:50:53,760 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: Top fasing guys, these songs.

1041
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: Were not.

1042
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: Baseball.

1043
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 7: You go, yes, everybody, top five, you.

1044
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: Top five? Come on right, come on, come on now, right,

1045
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: come on with the diminishings. So do these top five

1046
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: need to be They don't need to be my top

1047
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: my songs, none, your top five, my top r and

1048
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 3: bast singers right now.

1049
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 2: Singer yours?

1050
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: Man? Do we start from the yours?

1051
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: From where you want to start?

1052
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: Five to one?

1053
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: Whatever, don't matter.

1054
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: No order, no order, no orders, how you feel, how

1055
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: you feel the five people.

1056
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 3: Donny Hathaway, come now, mind you. I wasn't allowed to

1057
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: listen to this, so I went back later on and Discovery.

1058
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, sing this song for you?

1059
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: You knew was trumpet music. Phil. Yeah, so we got

1060
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: Nanny half the way. Oh my god, I'll say that

1061
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: one because that's that was the one that inspired me

1062
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 3: to even want to be in a music You got, Donny,

1063
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: you got, I'm I'm gonna say it man, Mario man, yeah, ye,

1064
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody, no, everybody, Okay, okay, we've

1065
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 3: seen it in that that that that versus yeah, we

1066
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 3: don't play about Mario, Okay, okay about Mario. That sure

1067
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: was amazing.

1068
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: Why not?

1069
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 3: Yes? Why not? Is it? Donny Marios? That's three?

1070
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, m hm.

1071
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: Hm oh R and B though, No, I was thinking

1072
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: about Christians? Who you want throwing there?

1073
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: Kim Burrell, I'm sorry because she has been such an.

1074
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: Is icon. Yeah she is.

1075
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a whole. She got a little mini,

1076
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: little Mini's little mini Minnie Barell, generations of Minnie Burrell, Yes,

1077
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: multiple generations. That's four. Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wonder. Come on, yeah, yeah, man,

1078
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: that's my five.

1079
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: Man Okay, top five R and B songs.

1080
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: So crazy because I don't listen to music, Okay, R

1081
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: and B songs, I really I may you know what

1082
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw. I'm gonna throw something in there right

1083
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: now that I hear in my mind a song called

1084
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 3: Maybe I Deserve. Yeah, it's just so fresh on my mind.

1085
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just remember.

1086
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 4: Having that you talk about a destination.

1087
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: I just remember that song sticking out so long and

1088
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: like it's such a staple, like it's a part where

1089
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: it's like that was to me. It was new. It

1090
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: was a new style of writing too, you know what

1091
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: I mean. So that's my that's my first one I.

1092
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: Call that that I lost my bitch anthem.

1093
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: Man's looked at it like that. Maybe I deserve Yeah

1094
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 3: at that time like that, Yeah you want say about it? Yeah,

1095
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: I come it back. I deserve we got Oh oh Cender,

1096
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: my loves Stevie Wonder, Yes, yeah, unbelievable and very place

1097
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: alien yeah, super player. Oh I'm gonna have to man,

1098
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, but all that matters, man,

1099
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: I just I mean, I didn't want to say because

1100
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 3: I wrote it, but all that matters from journals for Beaver,

1101
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: just because because you know that inside that humble thing,

1102
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know I'm fighting it. It's

1103
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: a battle, humble flast, humble battle. Nah, It's okay. So

1104
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: maybe I deserve Cender. All that matters. All that matters, man,

1105
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: R and B. Come on, man, Oh, I'm gonna have

1106
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: to go back to oh tripping mm hmmm mm hmm

1107
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 3: faith Evans as soon as I get home. Come on,

1108
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: I'm dig I'm going like I'm diving in because like

1109
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, No, I don't really listen

1110
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 3: to music, so I'm leaving diving in what I had

1111
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: that Oh man, No, that just made me think of

1112
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: Carl Thomas. I wish I never met her?

1113
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: Man, don't.

1114
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: Man? Yeah, Like both are the ones where it was like,

1115
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: can you know what it was? It's so hard for

1116
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: arm beating to live in the club. So when you

1117
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 3: have an R and B song that can live in club,

1118
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: it's a big deal to be soft and hard. It's

1119
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: a big deal. Tomorrow, all right, I wish it never

1120
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: met her. That's four.

1121
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: It's five?

1122
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: No, no, no, one more? One more? One more?

1123
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 4: You want you got one more?

1124
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: That was five?

1125
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 4: You know my great account Sure, I'm really good accounting.

1126
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 5: Maybe I deserve all that matters as soon as I

1127
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 5: get home.

1128
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: I wish, I wish that's it.

1129
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: I ain't saying no next. I ain't saying no names,

1130
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: saying no names.

1131
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: I ain't saying no name was yeah what you need?

1132
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: Don't see man, I ain't saying.

1133
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah we at that part of the show. That

1134
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: part is this a story?

1135
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: Will you tell us a story?

1136
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 7: Oh?

1137
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: I got so many funny and fucked up? Are funny

1138
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: and fucked up? Yeah? And don't got no names? The

1139
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 3: game amazing, let's sold a story? No names? Man. At

1140
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: my fastest I was in Philadelphia working with an artists

1141
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: and this artist was like I love you, and I

1142
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: was like, I love you too, but it was more

1143
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: like I love you too, as like your music and

1144
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: what you've done and contributed to our society. But I

1145
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: response like, yeah, I love you too, such and such,

1146
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: such and such and such and such, and then I

1147
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: was like and then there was like I'm gonna cook

1148
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: for you. I was like, all right, and then so

1149
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: we did. We did a record two days later, come

1150
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: back and she brought food. She brought food, and she

1151
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: brought hot sauce. It was her own hot sauce.

1152
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 4: Okay, she had made the hot sauce or had.

1153
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 3: Her picture on it. Yeah. And then she made apple pie.

1154
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: I'm not even in an apple pie, but she was like,

1155
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: I peel these apples for you. And she was like,

1156
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: I suppose in these leather pants for you. And I

1157
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: was like I was starting to feel like wait, man,

1158
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: Like I thought, you know what I'm saying, this was

1159
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: a musical, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And then

1160
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 3: I walked by She's drinking red wine. She was like,

1161
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: you want some wine? I was like, nah, that makes

1162
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: me sleepy, you know what I'm saying. We hear the

1163
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: work like we hadn't even started the sessions feeding me

1164
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: and macaroni and cheese with seven cheese. I didn't even

1165
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: know there was a macaroni cheese with seven cheeses at

1166
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: that time. Even I couldn't name seven cheeses. And I'm

1167
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: walking by. I feel something, mind you, I never had

1168
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: an ass. So I walked by and she grabbed whatever

1169
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: I thought was my ass, and I'm like, I had

1170
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 3: never had anybody actually grab my ass? Was my mom

1171
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: might not even have an ass to grab. I'm like,

1172
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: what she's grabbing right now? Grab my ass? And I

1173
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: was like that was uncomfortable. That was awkward. I'm like,

1174
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 3: all right, try to play that off like that didn't happen.

1175
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: Get upstairs in the room and studio, and it is hot,

1176
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 3: okay because the heat rises to the top, so it's hot.

1177
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: It's shit. So I'm working me the artist, the engineer,

1178
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: and the engineer was like, hey, man, can I take

1179
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 3: a quick break to go to the bathroom. I'm like cool.

1180
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 3: As soon as he before he could leave the room,

1181
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 3: she was like, whoa, it's shure is hot in here.

1182
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: Don't you want to come out of that shirt? And

1183
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: I mind you. I'm four thirty, Bro, I got titties.

1184
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. This wasn't I. I was

1185
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: not proud of my titties. I used to so I

1186
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: used to wear two shirts to try to hide my titties.

1187
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: So I was like, it is hot, So I pulled

1188
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: off a shirt, but I had on another shirt. A

1189
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: why lie? How about that? You know what I'm saying

1190
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: about them titties for cars? You know what I'm saying.

1191
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 3: So then she kicks up, she comes and stands over me,

1192
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: and she unzips her pants that she squolls in for me,

1193
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 3: and I just see like these fits like net like

1194
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: see you through panties. And I'm like, my heart's beating.

1195
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: Bro.

1196
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I

1197
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: kind of have an idea what's happening, but it felt

1198
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: like I was dreaming. It felt like it was surreal.

1199
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: You know what's happening. It's not even a good part

1200
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: of the store. So then as she's standing in front

1201
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: of me with her pants on zipper, the engineer walks

1202
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: in and then he walked right back out. He did

1203
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: went on. He was like, oh my bad. He did

1204
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 3: the one step and pivot back out. And I was

1205
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: like no. I was like, hey, no, we're ready. I

1206
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: was like, no, we're ready.

1207
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 5: He thought he was saving you, and I was like, no,

1208
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 5: we're ready to record.

1209
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 3: Come back in cut the record. Then I get another

1210
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 3: two days ago by I get a call from this

1211
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: assistant like, yeah, such and such want to invite you

1212
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 3: to her birthday party? Is private. She was like, but don't.

1213
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: She's like, don't tell anybody. She don't want no paparazzi

1214
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: there she wants. She's going to invite the people that

1215
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: she wants. I'm like, amazing, so dramoned down, I was like,

1216
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: hey man, y'all gonna be at the party, right. They're like,

1217
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 3: what party? She's just I can't even say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1218
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: definitely not dreaming that.

1219
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 6: She just told you know, oh yeah yeah no no,

1220
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,479
Speaker 6: but you already I met this person them, so.

1221
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't It was the assistant that told me. And

1222
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 3: in my mind, why wouldn't they know, because they're the

1223
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: whole reason why I even know this person. So I'm like,

1224
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell that. I won't tell nobody else, but

1225
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell the people that introduced me. And they're like, nah, well,

1226
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: we don't know about no party. I was like, don't worry,

1227
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna call you, but I can't tell nobody, Like

1228
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna get the call, but you can't tell nobody.

1229
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 3: All right, they're gonna call y'all, so you know, and

1230
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 3: then so the days go by, days go by, and

1231
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 3: then finally you know they this person they she flew

1232
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: me in. Oh, you gotta flew it out. She flew yeah,

1233
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: like a girl.

1234
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: Bro.

1235
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, I'm getting flowed out, blowed out.

1236
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 3: It's a whole new way to say that.

1237
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: Ship.

1238
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: So I gotta go down. And they had like the

1239
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: car I landed, and had me go straight to the

1240
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 3: to the party where I thought was. I thought it

1241
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: was a party. Get to the party, open the door.

1242
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: It's a hundred candles burning and music like slow music playing,

1243
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, where's the people? Where's the party?

1244
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's real private, you know what I'm saying.

1245
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it was super private, private privy. I'm like,

1246
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: and my mom, I'm like, all right, maybe it's a

1247
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: surprise party. So people are gonna jump out. So I'm like,

1248
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 3: where are the people, Like, where are we jumping out

1249
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 3: from where are the others? Where are the others? Where

1250
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 3: are the others? And then then she comes out. Bro,

1251
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 3: she came out, and uh she came out. Bro, you

1252
01:03:53,920 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: know me cried my left eye. Wait a minute, bro. Yeah.

1253
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: So now I'm at the surprise, the non the surpriseless party.

1254
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: But just me, I'm sweating because I'm like that it's

1255
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: I'm getting hot. Sit there, here she comes and a

1256
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: fucking see through rope, a sheer nightgown, naked sheer with

1257
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: like fur fur naked birthday ankles, so everything covered up

1258
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: was ship that we don't care this like ankles was covered,

1259
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: her neck was covered. I'm like, naked, come sit on

1260
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 3: my lap, rubbing my rubbing my pony tail, of course

1261
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: the back, you know what I'm saying. And she's like, hey,

1262
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 3: thank you for coming, Like, happy birthday, this is a

1263
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: happy birthday. Came No, I just said happy birthday. Way

1264
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 3: before that. I start happy birthday. I was like sixteen,

1265
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: but man, and so I'm like she's like, thank you

1266
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: for coming. I'm like, yeah, happy birthday. Where is everybody?

1267
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: She's like no, it's just us. And I'm like I'm

1268
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 3: so scared.

1269
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: Bro.

1270
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: She's sitting on my lap.

1271
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, mind you.

1272
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 3: She had already asked me to call my mom before

1273
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: she told my mom she loved me. I was like,

1274
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: it's weird, mom. I can't say that that might give

1275
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: it away, but it was, you know, it was a

1276
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 3: similarity in the in the age my mom. So it

1277
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: was weird. So I tell you know, I'm like, I'm thinking,

1278
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 3: like I gotta get out of this in my mind.

1279
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: So she's like, you want something drink? You want to

1280
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 3: Hennessy And I'm like, I don't for me Henny Bro

1281
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: yeah on some hoods ships, super hood she wanted to get. Yeah.

1282
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: She was like I need to get him discombobulated, like

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01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: he needs to not be in his right mind to

1284
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: get to this. So I'm like, man, I'm okay right now.

1285
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: And she was like, she's like, wait, I got you something.

1286
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 3: And I was like, what'd you get me? Bruh. She

1287
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: came out with a jackiet Bro. She got me at

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01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 3: your chill like one from like a real store, the

1289
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 3: one to do like sixty bands. She got chill up. Yeah,

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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 3: And so I was like, oh no, I was like,

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01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 3: I can't you know what I'm saying. I'm like, what

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01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 3: is this? She was like, this is something for you,

1293
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: a gift. I'm like your birthday. You know what I'm saying.

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01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm like no. She put it on my sho was like,

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01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, with all due respect, man I got

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 3: I went to the ship. I'm like, man, with all

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: due respect, I can't take this. It's just like, yeah

1298
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 3: you can. She's like, I got it for you and

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01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm not. She's like, I'm not keeping it here. She

1300
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 3: was like, it's yours and I'm like I was like,

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01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, what do you mind? I

1302
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: heard it with how girls hit dudes. I was like,

1303
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: do you mind if I go back to the hotels

1304
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: like a freshen up? You know how the girl had

1305
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 3: to do? But I need to do to go fresh.

1306
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: So I was like, do you mind if I go

1307
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: back to the Soffie tails like a freshen up? And

1308
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: she was like, yeah, as long as you come back.

1309
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'll be back. She was like,

1310
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: put the jacket on his cold outside. Yeah, I'm gonna

1311
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: call you now. I was like, I'm coming back. She

1312
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 3: was like I'm gonna have the driver stay, like he's

1313
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna bring you and stay and waiting. I

1314
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, bruh, I was sweating bullets. Bro, I've

1315
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 3: never been That was the first time I've ever been

1316
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 3: in that scenario on my whole life. Bro, I'm not

1317
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 3: used to women like I wasn't coming on to me.

1318
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: I was really obese. So I didn't get it. I

1319
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: was confused and I was engaged. I was engaged, and

1320
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: that okay, okay, so sound like I'm gay. I'm engaged.

1321
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: What's happening. So now I go to the hotel and

1322
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn it. I spelt embarrassed. I was like,

1323
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 3: should I call the people that introduced me, like, because

1324
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: they clear didn't even getn't get invited, So it was

1325
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: like I was the only invite invited. It was the

1326
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: only attendee, and it yeah, And I didn't go back.

1327
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 3: I didn't go back. I actually stayed the night at

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01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 3: the hotel and caught my flight because I had a

1329
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: flight the next day to go back to Atlanta, Georgia.

1330
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: I never went back. Man. And then it was so

1331
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 3: crazy because this was in two thousand and one, two

1332
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: thousand and two, and this was before the whole me

1333
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: Too movement, right, So I had cut records on this artist,

1334
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 3: and because I didn't sleep with her, she pulled all

1335
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 3: my songs off the album. I was the first me

1336
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 3: Too as a guy, and I thought about it years

1337
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 3: and years later. I thought about a year you got

1338
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: oh you got me Too too by a woman hopefully right. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, yeah,

1339
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 3: how damn you?

1340
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 5: No?

1341
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 3: No, no, I know, hey man, but it was something

1342
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 3: I remember, like when the me Too shit happened. I

1343
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 3: called my homie who introduced I was like, hey, man,

1344
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna come out with my story. He

1345
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 3: was like no. I was like, yeah, man, they took

1346
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: she took our songs off the album because I wouldn't

1347
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: sleep with her. And he was like, yeah, well just

1348
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: so just let it go.

1349
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1350
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, bro, look at this. The dude cruisers come,

1351
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: all these people coming out, and I'm like, I'm gonna

1352
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 3: be the real first guy that had this happen from

1353
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: a woman woman. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm coming out.

1354
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 3: He was like, nah, don't, man. He taught me off

1355
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 3: the ledge. You know what I'm saying. But that was

1356
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: my I hope I didn't give away too many hints,

1357
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 3: but that was my nameless story. I never saw her again.

1358
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: My friends ran into her years later and the first

1359
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 3: question that she didn't say, Hey, how y'all doing. Oh,

1360
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 3: it's good to see y'all, she said. The first thing

1361
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,440
Speaker 3: he said, she said was where's your friend with the ponytail?

1362
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 2: The pool bear guy?

1363
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 3: That was the first day. This was three four years later.

1364
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 3: He's still looking for you. Yeah, man, So that's my story. Man,

1365
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 3: I'm so glad I finally got to get that on

1366
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 3: my chest and tell that without actually saying any names. Yeah,

1367
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 3: amazing story. Thank you man, that really happened.

1368
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 2: And maybe it's a surprise. Took me out here right.

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01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: Okay, we got a surprise with all us with a

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01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: macaroni and she it's eight Jesus. Now.

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01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 5: I can't wait see the comments I can and see

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01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 5: who they think it is. Try to oh man, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nameless.

1373
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: I was waiting on this opportunity. I wasn't gonna be

1374
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: the one to reach. I was just like, man, I

1375
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 3: would love to do that.

1376
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1377
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 3: So thanks for having me and being so genuine and

1378
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: never changing. Y'all are still the same motherfuckers. I appreciate that.

1379
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 3: I know. It's just I see a lot of people change,

1380
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 3: so it's thanks for being this being being the same

1381
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: man and giving creating this platform for R and B. Man,

1382
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 3: We've never really had this spot like ever outside of

1383
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 3: what Soul trained. What was it done? Yeah, video soul

1384
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: video soul right, but that's like twenty So thank you

1385
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 3: for creating this platform and I appreciate you and you

1386
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 3: both you both kings and your amazingly challenged as well.

1387
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 3: Thank you man.

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01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,439
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