1
00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760
Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from how

2
00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:13,600
Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

3
00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm to bling a chuck reboarding, and I'm fair a dowdy.

4
00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,520
Speaker 1: And even though technically this episode will come out the

5
00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,120
Speaker 1: day after Valentine's Day, we wanted to celebrate the season

6
00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,760
Speaker 1: of love somehow, especially since last year's Valentine's Day Massacre

7
00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,640
Speaker 1: podcast had a couple of listeners thinking we were anti love.

8
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,800
Speaker 1: We got some critical emails about that one. Yeah, we did.

9
00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,839
Speaker 1: People judged us, but that's okay. And I mean, recently

10
00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,839
Speaker 1: we've done serial Killers and Boxers and wild West, and

11
00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,559
Speaker 1: so we thought, maybe let's go in a different direction

12
00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,520
Speaker 1: and get people ready for a marathon Valentine weekend. Maybe. Sure.

13
00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,040
Speaker 1: So initially I went through some listener requests to try

14
00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,160
Speaker 1: to see if I could find some lovey dovey ideas,

15
00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,680
Speaker 1: and I had zero luck. I mean, I think our

16
00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,960
Speaker 1: listeners are starting to think about along the same line

17
00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,680
Speaker 1: as us. There were a lot of massacres. I mean,

18
00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,119
Speaker 1: love is just as nice as massacres. People sometimes nicer,

19
00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,560
Speaker 1: sometimes nicer. So we picked a topic on our own,

20
00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,679
Speaker 1: and we settled on talking about one of the most

21
00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,720
Speaker 1: famous romances of the nineteenth century, if not of all time.

22
00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,399
Speaker 1: It's the romance of Victorian poets Elizabeth Barrett and Robert Browning,

23
00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,320
Speaker 1: and at first, blush poets and love might not seem

24
00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,920
Speaker 1: like that much of a stretch. I mean, after all,

25
00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,319
Speaker 1: the stereotype is that these guys are sitting around pouring

26
00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,200
Speaker 1: out their feelings all day long on paper anyway, right,

27
00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,920
Speaker 1: and love is their job, right sure? But Robert and

28
00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,200
Speaker 1: Elizabeth had truly a unique relationship, complete with forbidden love,

29
00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:47,400
Speaker 1: a tyrannical father, a mysterious and curable illness, clandestine meetings,

30
00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,480
Speaker 1: and lots and lots of love letters. So not to

31
00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,120
Speaker 1: give too much of the story way already, but hopefully

32
00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,040
Speaker 1: that'll be a good teaser for you guys well in

33
00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,360
Speaker 1: the story of their courtship truly seems like something worthy

34
00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,240
Speaker 1: of a poem or work of fition, and their relationship

35
00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,640
Speaker 1: did actually influence their work in various ways that we

36
00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,760
Speaker 1: can still appreciate today. And of course, like many of

37
00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,680
Speaker 1: the stories that we tell, there are a few twists

38
00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,040
Speaker 1: here that modern research has given us, one of which,

39
00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,799
Speaker 1: conveniently enough, since is February. In addition to being Valentine's

40
00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,840
Speaker 1: day ties into Black History Month. How about that. But

41
00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,520
Speaker 1: before we can dive into the story of the romance

42
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,280
Speaker 1: between these two people, we've got to tell you a

43
00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,360
Speaker 1: little bit about what their lives were like before they met,

44
00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,080
Speaker 1: because for both Robert and Elizabeth, you can look at

45
00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,400
Speaker 1: their biographies in distinct phases pre courtship and then post

46
00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,320
Speaker 1: Elizabeth was born Elizabeth Barrett on March sixth, eighteen oh six,

47
00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,400
Speaker 1: in County Durham, England. She was the eldest of eleven

48
00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,880
Speaker 1: children of Edward Moulton Barrett and Mary Graham Clark. Her

49
00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,720
Speaker 1: family was fairly well to do, and Elizabeth grew up

50
00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,520
Speaker 1: mainly at her parents five acre estate in Herefordshire, known

51
00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,640
Speaker 1: somewhat poetically as Hope End. She was an active and

52
00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,480
Speaker 1: precocious kid, and maybe even something of a tomboy, which

53
00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,480
Speaker 1: I found kind of surprising considering what we'll find out

54
00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,760
Speaker 1: about her in her later life. But according to an

55
00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,040
Speaker 1: article by Michael Tempo in World and I, she was

56
00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,000
Speaker 1: quote given to fisticuffs and quote throwing things about the house.

57
00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,320
Speaker 1: She sounds like a bit of a terror, doesn't she.

58
00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,640
Speaker 1: But she was also really into her study. She was

59
00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,560
Speaker 1: a very good student. She learned Greek and Latin at

60
00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,320
Speaker 1: an early age. But because she was a girl, she

61
00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,120
Speaker 1: didn't get to go off and continue her studies at

62
00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,080
Speaker 1: a private school like her brothers did, and the fact

63
00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,680
Speaker 1: that she couldn't do that really disappointed her. Unlike other

64
00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,280
Speaker 1: privileged girls of this time, Elizabeth did get to go

65
00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,840
Speaker 1: further in her education in other ways that even though

66
00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,240
Speaker 1: she didn't get to go to school, her parents encouraged

67
00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,240
Speaker 1: her to read. Her father gave her full access to

68
00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,720
Speaker 1: his library. She took full advantage of that, reading both

69
00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,160
Speaker 1: the classics and contemporary literature of the day. She especially

70
00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,000
Speaker 1: liked romantic fiction and became him a big fan of

71
00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,440
Speaker 1: George sand Eventually. Even though Elizabeth's father encouraged her education

72
00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,720
Speaker 1: at home this way, though he was still very controlling

73
00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,360
Speaker 1: ran a very strict household. We'll talk about his deal

74
00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,600
Speaker 1: a lot more lately, so knowing that it's almost surprising

75
00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,680
Speaker 1: how much he encouraged his eldest daughter's writing. He arranged

76
00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,279
Speaker 1: to have one of her epic poems on the Battle

77
00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,320
Speaker 1: of Marathon privately published when she was only fourteen years old.

78
00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,640
Speaker 1: He was a supportive parent in that respect. He definitely

79
00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,800
Speaker 1: wasn't by all accounts Elizabeth really loved him as well

80
00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,360
Speaker 1: and wanted to please him. This eagerness to please may

81
00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,159
Speaker 1: actually explain the formality and the seriousness of her early work.

82
00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,120
Speaker 1: And when she was fifteen, though, things took a turn

83
00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,599
Speaker 1: for the worse and she fell mysteriously ill for the

84
00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,919
Speaker 1: first time. She started having chess pain, so something seemed

85
00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,760
Speaker 1: to be affecting her lungs, and she also complained of

86
00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,279
Speaker 1: a quote swollen spine, and some thought this was a

87
00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,360
Speaker 1: nervous breakdown or some sort of psychosomatic condition triggered by

88
00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,520
Speaker 1: her favorite brother Edward leaving home. Modern researchers, of course,

89
00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,560
Speaker 1: has have offered other theories, which will discuss a little

90
00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,400
Speaker 1: bit later. But regardless of what the exact problem was,

91
00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,120
Speaker 1: it would affect Elizabeth for the rest of her life.

92
00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,960
Speaker 1: She was always really physically weak and would occasionally have

93
00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,640
Speaker 1: these sort of attacks where her health would worsen for

94
00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,800
Speaker 1: a little while. Her doctor prescribed opium in the form

95
00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,440
Speaker 1: of Blondon for her, and she became addicted to that too,

96
00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,919
Speaker 1: so that's sort of added to the back track to

97
00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,360
Speaker 1: be on, and her health really got worth in the

98
00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,000
Speaker 1: eighteen thirties. She went to Turkey to recover and she

99
00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,640
Speaker 1: even talked her father into having Edward, that favorite brother,

100
00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,440
Speaker 1: come and stay with her for a little while, but

101
00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,040
Speaker 1: tragedy struck again. Her brother drowned while he was visiting her.

102
00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,040
Speaker 1: She ended up blaming herself, since you know, she had

103
00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,480
Speaker 1: pressured her father into sending him in the first place.

104
00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,000
Speaker 1: And after that her health just really con tinue to decline.

105
00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,400
Speaker 1: She had more abouts of feeling extremely ill, and by

106
00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,120
Speaker 1: the eighteen forties she was pretty much an invalid. She

107
00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,400
Speaker 1: spent most of her time in a dark room taking

108
00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,719
Speaker 1: laudanum and really didn't see people very much at all.

109
00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,159
Speaker 1: She still wrote, though, She published several books of poetry,

110
00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,479
Speaker 1: including Seraphim and Other Poems in eighteen thirty eight and

111
00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,520
Speaker 1: Just Poems in eighteen forty four, which were both quite successful.

112
00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,240
Speaker 1: She had fans all over the place, even across the

113
00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,400
Speaker 1: pond in America. A fan, just as an example of

114
00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,279
Speaker 1: how famous she was, once sent her a letter addressed

115
00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,640
Speaker 1: simply Elizabeth Barrett Poetus, London, and it made it to

116
00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,120
Speaker 1: her she received it. I mean, I just wonder what

117
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,839
Speaker 1: would happen if someone sent you know, Sarah in Dublina.

118
00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:50,880
Speaker 1: Podcasters Atlanta address that, but Robert Browning started in a

119
00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,320
Speaker 1: very different place from Elizabeth, but in some ways they

120
00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,320
Speaker 1: weren't really all that different. He was born May seventh,

121
00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,880
Speaker 1: eighteen twelve in a suburb of London into a middle

122
00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,279
Speaker 1: coast family. His father was a clerk at the Bank

123
00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,800
Speaker 1: of England, and Robert, like Elizabeth, also didn't receive a

124
00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,359
Speaker 1: lot of formal education, though according to Encyclopedia Britannic, his

125
00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,160
Speaker 1: father did teach him Greek and Latin, and also like Elizabeth,

126
00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,600
Speaker 1: he was largely self taught and spent a lot of

127
00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,280
Speaker 1: time reading works from his father's library and visiting art museums.

128
00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,920
Speaker 1: He did get a little bit of formal education in

129
00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,920
Speaker 1: in eighty eight he went to the University of London,

130
00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,000
Speaker 1: but left after only half a semester. Like Elizabeth too,

131
00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,000
Speaker 1: he had the strong affinity for Romantic literature in particular,

132
00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,840
Speaker 1: which really makes sense if you've read either of their writing. Particularly,

133
00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,160
Speaker 1: he liked the works of Percy Bits Shelley, who we've

134
00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,040
Speaker 1: talked about on the podcast before, so you guys know

135
00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,800
Speaker 1: all about him. Browning did have a few trips, not

136
00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,680
Speaker 1: exactly a grand tour, but a few jaunts to St.

137
00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,800
Speaker 1: Petersburg and Italy as a younger man. But besides that,

138
00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,320
Speaker 1: he basically lived with his parents until eighteen forty six,

139
00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,320
Speaker 1: and this is when he wrote his early long poems

140
00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,240
Speaker 1: then most of his plays. There was one major difference, though,

141
00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,160
Speaker 1: between Robert and Elizabeth. Unlike Elizabeth, Robert's early work wasn't

142
00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,040
Speaker 1: very well received. One of his poems Are Delo was

143
00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,000
Speaker 1: considered to be incomprehensible, and his plays were pretty unpopular too,

144
00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,880
Speaker 1: so they seemed to be on a different career trajectory.

145
00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,480
Speaker 1: In the eighteen forties, Elizabeth was actually way more famous

146
00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,120
Speaker 1: than he was, and he really admired her work. So

147
00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,960
Speaker 1: you can imagine his surprise and pleasure when in her

148
00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,280
Speaker 1: poem called Lady Geraldine's Courtship, which came out in that

149
00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,760
Speaker 1: eighteen forty four collection we mentioned, she referred favorably to

150
00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,400
Speaker 1: his poetry, and he was so flattered he wrote his

151
00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,800
Speaker 1: first letter to her on January tenth, eighteen forty five,

152
00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,000
Speaker 1: and he started it by saying, quote, I love your

153
00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,720
Speaker 1: verses with all my heart, dear miss Barrett, and in

154
00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,600
Speaker 1: the same letter later wrote, I do as I say,

155
00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,640
Speaker 1: love these books with all my heart, and I love

156
00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,360
Speaker 1: you too. We took it up a notch there. He said.

157
00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,400
Speaker 1: Elizabeth wrote back to him the very next day, saying,

158
00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,160
Speaker 1: I thank you, dear Mr Browning, from the bottom of

159
00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,400
Speaker 1: my heart end quote. I've learned to know your voice,

160
00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,920
Speaker 1: not merely from the poetry, but from the kindness in it.

161
00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,760
Speaker 1: So it kind of sounds like she's reciprocating there a

162
00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,199
Speaker 1: little bit. Oh yeah, And thus began their correspondence, and

163
00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,880
Speaker 1: they wrote to each other pretty regularly after that. At first, though,

164
00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,520
Speaker 1: Elizabeth didn't think anything romantic would really come with this.

165
00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,520
Speaker 1: She felt this way for a lot of reasons. I mean,

166
00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,679
Speaker 1: for one thing, she didn't really think that she'd ever

167
00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,520
Speaker 1: fall in love. She was about thirty eight thirty nine

168
00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,400
Speaker 1: years old at this point and considered a spinster at

169
00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,320
Speaker 1: this time, you know, being that age and unmarried. And

170
00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,920
Speaker 1: she was also, as we mentioned, an invalid who barely

171
00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,560
Speaker 1: saw the light of day, much less people outside of

172
00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,360
Speaker 1: her family, so she just really didn't see herself as

173
00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,480
Speaker 1: a catch. Then there was her dad, and we mentioned

174
00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,760
Speaker 1: he was rather controlling, but probably the most famous of

175
00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,000
Speaker 1: his edicts was forbidding any of his children, including both

176
00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:04,800
Speaker 1: daughters and sons, from ever marrying. So of course you've

177
00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,400
Speaker 1: kind of wonder why would anybody want to make such

178
00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,240
Speaker 1: a rule. I mean, after all, if your kids don't

179
00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,360
Speaker 1: get married, you're not going to have any legitimate grandchildren,

180
00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,240
Speaker 1: no legal airs. Pretty unusual way of thinking, especially around

181
00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,640
Speaker 1: this time. So nobody knows for sure what motivated Elizabeth's

182
00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,520
Speaker 1: father to make this rule. There are several theories, though,

183
00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,400
Speaker 1: and we're going to run through a couple of those.

184
00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,560
Speaker 1: Some people think it was just this whole Victorian patriarchal thing.

185
00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,480
Speaker 1: He wanted to keep his kids at home and under

186
00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,400
Speaker 1: his control for the entirety of their lives. Others think

187
00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,840
Speaker 1: it was because he was uncomfortable with the idea of

188
00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,040
Speaker 1: his children's sexuality. But I mean, although this makes sense

189
00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,800
Speaker 1: even for us today with father daughter relationships. I mean,

190
00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,120
Speaker 1: you can see a father not really being comfortable with

191
00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,680
Speaker 1: that idea about his little girl, but it's a little

192
00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,840
Speaker 1: stranger to think that he'd feel that way about his

193
00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,199
Speaker 1: son's too. There's a thorough beary, though, one that's a

194
00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,760
Speaker 1: little outside the norm that's emerged in recent years, and

195
00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,560
Speaker 1: that's that Elizabeth's father wanted to put an end to

196
00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,160
Speaker 1: their family line, not because they had some horrible thing

197
00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,720
Speaker 1: that had happened in their past, but because he believed

198
00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,840
Speaker 1: they had quote mixed blood, so, in other words, he

199
00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,439
Speaker 1: thought that they were part black. You have to wonder, okay,

200
00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,400
Speaker 1: how would this have been possible. How would he suspect

201
00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:27,120
Speaker 1: that there were Africans in his family. Well, they were

202
00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,600
Speaker 1: the descendants of wealthy Jamaican plantation owners, so it was

203
00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,040
Speaker 1: not uncommon for white plantation owners to have black mistresses.

204
00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,520
Speaker 1: And Julia Marcus wrote a book called Dared and Done,

205
00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,840
Speaker 1: The Marriage of Elizabeth Barrett and Robert Browning, and she

206
00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,960
Speaker 1: really explored this theory in depth, that that Barrett's father

207
00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,600
Speaker 1: was just trying to to end the line. Despite his

208
00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,880
Speaker 1: eleven children, he had already sired to to eliminate their

209
00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,080
Speaker 1: mixed ancestry. And interestingly enough, we should also say that

210
00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,960
Speaker 1: Robert Browning was also a descend of Jamaican plantation owners

211
00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,920
Speaker 1: and is also thought to be of mixed race heritage.

212
00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,520
Speaker 1: I've seen him described as having some quote Creole blood

213
00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,400
Speaker 1: in him from his paternal grandmother's side, and that he

214
00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,240
Speaker 1: had some African blood in him is actually a little

215
00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,160
Speaker 1: bit more widely accepted, I think than the related theories

216
00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,400
Speaker 1: about Elizabeth and her father. I think he might have

217
00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,360
Speaker 1: even discussed similar issues or those issues directly during his lifetime,

218
00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,760
Speaker 1: so whatever Barrett's father's reason though for standing in the

219
00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,600
Speaker 1: way of all of his children's marriages, Elizabeth knew this

220
00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,480
Speaker 1: was going to be an issue before the courtship even started.

221
00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,839
Speaker 1: For Robert's part, he was six years younger than Elizabeth

222
00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,520
Speaker 1: and considered a handsome man, quite dashing, but he didn't

223
00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,280
Speaker 1: really seem inclined to fall head over heels in love

224
00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,280
Speaker 1: either until he started corresponding to Elizabeth, his literary crush

225
00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,839
Speaker 1: after all, and after they had written to each other

226
00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,400
Speaker 1: for a while, Robert started to ask when they could meet,

227
00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,920
Speaker 1: and Elizabeth avoided this for some time, but he was

228
00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,640
Speaker 1: really persistent, and finally they set a date for him

229
00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,720
Speaker 1: to call on her on May at three in the afternoon,

230
00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,440
Speaker 1: and Elizabeth's family at that time was living at fifty

231
00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,760
Speaker 1: Wimple Street in London, and Robert came over and stayed

232
00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,680
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half. But it must have

233
00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,640
Speaker 1: been a really good ninety minutes, because a few days later,

234
00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,000
Speaker 1: Robert sent her a letter declaring his love for her,

235
00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,880
Speaker 1: and we don't know exactly what that letter said because

236
00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,160
Speaker 1: she apparently returned it to him and asked him to

237
00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,920
Speaker 1: burn it. Which he did. Perhaps she was scared of

238
00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,360
Speaker 1: her father finding it. It's a possibility, but she wrote

239
00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,960
Speaker 1: to him after that and said, quote, you do not

240
00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,199
Speaker 1: know what pain you give me, and speaking so wildly,

241
00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,880
Speaker 1: forget it once or forever having said it at all.

242
00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,160
Speaker 1: And it probably wasn't just her fear of her father

243
00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,840
Speaker 1: that made her react this way. Yeah, after all, Robert

244
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,040
Speaker 1: had come on pretty strong, pretty quickly, and Elizabeth probably

245
00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,760
Speaker 1: didn't think that his feelings were sin fear. After all,

246
00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,160
Speaker 1: this relationship had started with um, you know, him responding

247
00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,720
Speaker 1: to her kind words and poetry. He apologized, though, writing quote,

248
00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,640
Speaker 1: I wrote to you in an unwise moment, and they

249
00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,160
Speaker 1: continued corresponding. He probably figured he'd rather have her as

250
00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,120
Speaker 1: a friend as a correspondent than not get to talk

251
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,720
Speaker 1: to her at all. So the letters continued, the visit

252
00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,160
Speaker 1: continued without her father really picking up on what was

253
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,320
Speaker 1: going on, understanding the full extent of their friendship and

254
00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,000
Speaker 1: the frequency of their contact. Yeah. I think he might

255
00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,960
Speaker 1: have known that these two poets were coming together, probably

256
00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,800
Speaker 1: thinking they were just making shop talk, but he didn't

257
00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,920
Speaker 1: realize that Robert was coming over so frequently and that

258
00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,360
Speaker 1: they were getting so close, and that shop talk for

259
00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,400
Speaker 1: two romantic poets and kind of veer off into actual romance.

260
00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,560
Speaker 1: Very true, and as they sure enough, that's what happened.

261
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,760
Speaker 1: As they continued to talk and to get to know

262
00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,400
Speaker 1: each other, their friendship blossomed into love and Elizabeth began

263
00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,280
Speaker 1: to reciprocate Robert's feeling. She became more comfortable and began

264
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,080
Speaker 1: and to trust his feelings and emotions. And as they

265
00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,320
Speaker 1: grew closer, he wanted to go to Elizabeth's father and

266
00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,000
Speaker 1: ask for her hand in marriage. She knew what the

267
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,040
Speaker 1: answer would be to that, though. Yeah, she knew her

268
00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,280
Speaker 1: father very well and she knew he would never consent.

269
00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,720
Speaker 1: So she, unlike Robert, was willing to kind of keep

270
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,400
Speaker 1: going the way they were, just writing letters and seeing

271
00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,480
Speaker 1: each other now and again in her out and never

272
00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,160
Speaker 1: really sealing the deal, never really getting married. But finally

273
00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,600
Speaker 1: things came to a head in eighteen forty six when

274
00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,080
Speaker 1: Elizabeth's doctor recommended she go to Italy for her health.

275
00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,640
Speaker 1: He was basically like, you need to get to a

276
00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,880
Speaker 1: warmer climate, otherwise you won't survive another winter here. But

277
00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,760
Speaker 1: Elizabeth's father wouldn't let her go. It seemed like he

278
00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,720
Speaker 1: was so determined to keep her at home and under

279
00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,600
Speaker 1: his thumb, even if that meant she would die. So

280
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,520
Speaker 1: when the winter of eighteen forty six rolled around, Elizabeth

281
00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,120
Speaker 1: and Robert finally took action. They decided to get married secretly,

282
00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,720
Speaker 1: and it was really one of the hardest decisions Elizabeth

283
00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,600
Speaker 1: ever made, because she knew that she'd probably lose her

284
00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,440
Speaker 1: father if she ran off and got married. And even

285
00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,920
Speaker 1: though he doesn't seem that lovable, even though he might

286
00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,880
Speaker 1: seem quite strange for imposing a rule like this on

287
00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,400
Speaker 1: all of his children, Elizabeth did love her father and

288
00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,360
Speaker 1: she didn't think he was at fault for his views either.

289
00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,800
Speaker 1: She blamed the patriarchal system for how he was, but

290
00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,080
Speaker 1: still decision made to get married. She snuck out and

291
00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,400
Speaker 1: set off for marle Bone Church one Saturday that September,

292
00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,440
Speaker 1: where Robert was waiting for her. Her maid Wilson went

293
00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,520
Speaker 1: along kind of as an attendant, and she got faint.

294
00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,760
Speaker 1: Elizabeth got faint on the way and they had to

295
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,160
Speaker 1: stop briefly at a chemist for some smelling salts, but

296
00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,160
Speaker 1: eventually she did make it and she and Robert were

297
00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,760
Speaker 1: finally married after the ceremony, though they didn't get to

298
00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,440
Speaker 1: walk hand in hand off to a new home together.

299
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,600
Speaker 1: They had to part ways for a little while and

300
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400
Speaker 1: she had to take off her wedding ring and go

301
00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,360
Speaker 1: home to her father, and then finally a week later,

302
00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,600
Speaker 1: they left Italy as they had planned to do. Elizabeth

303
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,720
Speaker 1: only took a few items of clothing, a couple of books,

304
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,840
Speaker 1: her dog, and her maid along with her, probably because

305
00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,000
Speaker 1: her maid would have gotten in trouble if her father

306
00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,160
Speaker 1: had found out that um and she also took all

307
00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,320
Speaker 1: of the letters that Robert had written to her during

308
00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,760
Speaker 1: their courtship. Fortunately for us um so as expected, Elizabeth's

309
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,800
Speaker 1: father never forgave her for disobeying him. She wrote several

310
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,920
Speaker 1: letters to him, just begging for forgiveness, trying to explain herself,

311
00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,800
Speaker 1: asking if they could meet, and at some point he

312
00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,960
Speaker 1: sent her a package returning all of the letters she'd

313
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,680
Speaker 1: sent him, all of which were unopened, and she later

314
00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,880
Speaker 1: wrote to her sister Arabella, quote, I could never tell

315
00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,159
Speaker 1: you what I felt when those letters came back to me,

316
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,560
Speaker 1: nine or ten of them, all with their unbroken fields,

317
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,520
Speaker 1: testifying to the sealed at part which refused to be

318
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,679
Speaker 1: opened by me. So that aspect of her marriage and

319
00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,240
Speaker 1: her move were really sad. For Elizabeth, but Robert and

320
00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,720
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Barrett Brownie and ended up in Florence, where they

321
00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,000
Speaker 1: lived for their higher marriage, though they did occasionally take

322
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 1: holidays in France and in England, and despite Elizabeth's sadness

323
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800
Speaker 1: over losing her father, their marriage has been described as

324
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 1: pretty happy. They ended up getting an income and eventually

325
00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,000
Speaker 1: an inheritance from Elizabeth's cousin, which they lived off of,

326
00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,800
Speaker 1: and they both continued to write. Elizabeth in particular published

327
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,680
Speaker 1: a collection of her poetry in eighteen fifty called Sonnets

328
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,119
Speaker 1: from the Portuguese, which included poems written secretly to her

329
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,199
Speaker 1: husband during her courtship, and these poems are some of

330
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,160
Speaker 1: her most well known. How Do I Love thee Let

331
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,239
Speaker 1: Me Count the Ways as among those, though according to

332
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,920
Speaker 1: the Dictionary World Biography, that's the fact that they're well

333
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,080
Speaker 1: known is less for any intrinsic artistic excellence than for

334
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,399
Speaker 1: their abiding, romantic and psychological portrait of developing love, the

335
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of thing you'd write on Valentine's Cards, right exactly.

336
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,359
Speaker 1: Elizabeth ended up publishing about three more works after that,

337
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 1: including Aurora Lee, an epic poem in nine books that's

338
00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,639
Speaker 1: considered by them to be her masterpiece, and after the

339
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 1: death of William Wordsworth, she was a serious contender to

340
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,920
Speaker 1: replace him as England's Poet Laureate, but Alfred Lord Tennyson

341
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 1: was chosen instead beat her out for that position. So meanwhile,

342
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,679
Speaker 1: with all of this professional success, the Brownings were starting

343
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 1: their life together. To their married life together. Elizabeth had

344
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 1: two miscarriages before the couple had a son, who they

345
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 1: named Robert in eighteen forty nine. They called him Penn, however,

346
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 1: to avoid any confusion in the family. Ultimately the couple

347
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 1: were married for fifteen years when Elizabeth finally succumbed to

348
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:40,120
Speaker 1: illness and died June eighteen sixty one in Robert's arms.

349
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,719
Speaker 1: He later wrote to his sister quote, she is with

350
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 1: God who takes from me the life of my life.

351
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 1: To this day, people still speculate what Elizabeth's illness actually was.

352
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 1: Some think it was severe asthma or tuberculosis, maybe protestis,

353
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 1: maybe even antolexy and ravosa or paralytic scoliosis. One of

354
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 1: the l this theories, though, from a researcher at Penn

355
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: State University named An Buchanan and her daughter, suggest that

356
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: it might be a condition called hypokalemic periodic paralysis or

357
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 1: h k p P, which is a muscle disorder. So

358
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: that's still kind of up in the air. The question

359
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 1: of what really happened to her one of my favorite

360
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 1: sub genres. I think of doing these history podcasts or

361
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 1: the medical mystery yea reevaluating old illnesses. I mean, they

362
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: come up with these theories a lot of times just

363
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,239
Speaker 1: from reading, you know, let letters and seeing what her

364
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 1: sile doctor advice, that sort of thing. It's pretty amazing

365
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 1: what they can sometimes come up with. So after Elizabeth's death, though,

366
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: Robert Browning moved back to England with his son, and

367
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: the first thing he did was published a collection of

368
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: his wife's last work entitled Last Poems. I mean, if

369
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: that's not a love letter to your departed wife, I

370
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: don't know what is. Then he continued on with his

371
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: own work got back to his career. During his marriage,

372
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: he had published a few things, including the collection entitled

373
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: Men and Women in eighteen fifty five, but this wasn't

374
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: as popular as his later work. With his eighteen sixty

375
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: four book of poems called Dramatis Persona, he finally started

376
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 1: to gain popularity and eventually became a bigger name, arguably

377
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 1: than his wife. By most accounts, his love for Elizabeth

378
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: never died. He promised her on her deathbed that he

379
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: would never remarry, and he never did. He did, however,

380
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: socialize quite a bit, and he had friendships with many females.

381
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: I see that written a lot. I'm not sure to

382
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: what extent those friendships went, but there's even evidence that

383
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: he proposed to women on a couple of occasions. So

384
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: he might have remarried if he could have. But I mean,

385
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: it's easy to see kind of why he got shot

386
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: down if you look at some of the accounts of

387
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: these proposals. According to Timco's article, when proposing to one

388
00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 1: lady Ashburton, Robert Browning said, quote, my heart is buried

389
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: in Florence, so not really a great way to win

390
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: a girl over. We're not that surprised that she said

391
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: no after that. No, that's really not a great tactic

392
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: to take. But some people think that some not so

393
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: sweet things happened towards the end of the Brownings relationship.

394
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: In a two thousand eight article in The Guardian, writer

395
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Lowry, using Browning's poem My Last Duchess as evidence,

396
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 1: explore the idea that Robert actually gave Elizabeth an extra

397
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: dose of morphine at the end which led her to death.

398
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that was done in some sort

399
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: of sympathy or to finish her off. Yeah, I mean

400
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: it's unclear, but again, this is just a theory. We

401
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: like to throw those out there. Yeah, we're not sure

402
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,239
Speaker 1: if that is even the case, but we like to

403
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: present our listeners with all the information we have at

404
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: our fingertips so that you can kind of mull over

405
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: those things. Most aside, what you think we should say

406
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: to most literature professors might not be two big fans

407
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: of about you think, my last duchess, this biographical evidence

408
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: very true, But I mean most people seem to believe

409
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: their love to have been your approachable And so that

410
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: we can end on a nicer note for this Valentine's

411
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: Day episode, we're going to read a little bit from

412
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: Robert's poem One Word More, which he dedicated to Elizabeth.

413
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: It goes, God be thanked the meanest of his creatures,

414
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: boast two soul sides, one to face the world with,

415
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: one to show a woman he loves her. This I

416
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: say of me, but think of you love This to

417
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: you yourself, my moon of poets. Ah, But that's the

418
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: world side, there's the wonder. Thus they see you, praise you,

419
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: think they know you. There. In turn, I stand with

420
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: them and praise you out of myself, I dare to

421
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: phrase it. But the best is when I glide from them,

422
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: cross a step or two of dubious twilight come out

423
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: on the other side, the novel silent silver Lights and

424
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: darks undreamed of, where I hush and bless myself with silence.

425
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: Well that's a nice way to wrap up our Valentine's

426
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: Day episode. But I've been wondering maybe you'll want to

427
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: continue this a little bit with some other nineteenth century writers,

428
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: you know, after all, Dickens two birthday was recently happened

429
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: to the Tree. I've been thinking about the Bronte's a

430
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: bit lately. It seems like everybody's thinking about the Bronte's.

431
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: I have a good Bronte biography. Biography Oh cool? Well,

432
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: you know I would be all for it if you

433
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: wanted to do that, and I think a lot of

434
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: our listeners would be too. We've received a lot of

435
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: emails recently. I think about the Brontes we have and

436
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: um Dickens too, of course, has been all over the news,

437
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: so maybe maybe either of those two, any of the

438
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: Brontes or Dickens or some other nineteenth century writer too.

439
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: If you want to suggest any of your favorites, you

440
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: can email us at History Podcast at Discovery dot com.

441
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: We're also on Twitter at Miston History and we are

442
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: in faith Buck And if you want to learn a

443
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: little bit more about the topic of today's podcast, which

444
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: of course is love, we have an entire Science of

445
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: Love micro site right now. Writer Kristen Conger, who is

446
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: also from Stuff Mom Never Told You, of course, has

447
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: written just a great I mean you've read a lot

448
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: of these two, Sarah, just a great series of articles

449
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: really delving into, I guess the inner workings of what

450
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: makes us fall in and out of love and what's

451
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: happening inside our bodies but makes us react certain ways

452
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: to breakups and makeups and everything in between. They're really

453
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: interesting and Dablina has been editing them too, so you

454
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: get a peek at what our normal part of our

455
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: job is, which is of course editing articles exactly. So

456
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: you can look that up by visiting our home page

457
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: at www. Duff How Stuff Works dot com. Be sure

458
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: to check out our new video podcast, Stuff from the Future.

459
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: Join House to Work staff as we explore the most

460
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: promising and perplexing possibilities of tomorrow. The House Stuff Works

461
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: iPhone app has a ride. Download it today on iTunes