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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. All about that

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Speaker 1: high school drama girl, drama girl, all about.

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Speaker 2: Them high school queens.

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Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride.

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Speaker 2: And our comic girl shared for the right teams.

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Speaker 4: Drama queens, up girl fashion, but your.

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Speaker 2: Tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl drama, queens, drama, Queens drama, queens drama, drama, Queens drama, Queens.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to A Q and A. We've been waiting for.

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Speaker 3: For years, literally years, literally years.

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Speaker 4: Rob, Who do we have today? You gave the metaphor.

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Speaker 5: I compared this guest. I said, she is our Moby Dick.

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Speaker 5: We finally landed the big fish and it is the

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Speaker 5: one and only, the wildly incomparable Lisa Goldstein.

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Speaker 3: Get her in years.

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Speaker 6: My gosh, Oh it's so good to see you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're so pretty.

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Speaker 5: Has not aged a day.

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Speaker 7: It's the Bowchox You guys, same girl, same Wait.

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Speaker 3: Did you just hear Rob's intro for you?

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Speaker 6: I was like not involved in that. I was not

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Speaker 6: didn't hear it?

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Speaker 5: What are your feelings about being compared to Moby Dick?

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Speaker 3: Well you have to give her contact?

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Speaker 5: Maybe, Well, I was going to joy and just wanted

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Speaker 5: to see what the initial knee jerk very.

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Speaker 2: Day, I should have more faith in you. Sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: It is just because we have for so long tried

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Speaker 5: to get to you as a guest on this podcast.

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Speaker 5: I would imagine they've been trying before even I showed

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Speaker 5: my face here.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you believe that might be true, and.

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Speaker 5: So that it was to that extent that we have

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Speaker 5: been just working feverishly and here we are are we feel.

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Speaker 6: I'm so excited the like the out there.

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Speaker 4: We know she's there, we know we'll find her again,

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Speaker 4: you know, obsession, which in the book is fictional but

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Speaker 4: for us is very real, very and also to be

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Speaker 4: so close to the end and to finally have this moment,

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Speaker 4: I do feel like we've won the power ball. I

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Speaker 4: would like for us all to also get a billion dollars,

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Speaker 4: but you know, one thing at a time.

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Speaker 5: Selfishly, I agree the reason I joined this podcast because

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Speaker 5: I don't cross paths with you in real life. I

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Speaker 5: just thought, what if I do this is the long game,

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Speaker 5: maybe Lisa will be a guest and I'll finally get

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Speaker 5: to tell her how great she is. Only reason, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that is so nice.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys ever have scenes together, Rob.

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Speaker 6: Not a one, not one, not a single one. See

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Speaker 6: the end when it was like everybody, yeah, but like

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Speaker 6: you never interact.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't watch the show, so I am rewatching

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Speaker 5: it basically for that, and I forgot ninety percent of

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Speaker 5: what happened on the stuff I was involved in. So

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Speaker 5: I have had such just a unique experience of watching

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Speaker 5: you and feeling like like I came in just going

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Speaker 5: like I know Lisa, like we've said hello a bunch

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Speaker 5: of times, but then I have never seen your work,

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Speaker 5: and I was like, she's so freaking good. You're just

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Speaker 5: awesome in this show. And I'm gonna say criminally underused.

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Speaker 6: Wow, I need more of this than that life.

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Speaker 2: Oh, anytime, come hang out with this anytime, because I

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Speaker 2: wish you could. We should find a way to somehow

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Speaker 2: like gather all the things we've said about you and

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Speaker 2: just get them into one audio file that you can

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Speaker 2: just play anytime you're feeling blue, because we talked about

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Speaker 2: you consistently on this show, but it's you're so talented,

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Speaker 2: and there are so many times when we are going,

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Speaker 2: Like we're listening to the log going that's what was

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Speaker 2: on the page, and Lisa somehow made it feel real

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Speaker 2: and grounded and warm, and we feel drawn into her

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Speaker 2: and I don't. She's magical, Like how does she do this?

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Speaker 2: You're just so dang good.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I mean thanks, I had some doozies. I had

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Speaker 5: You had some doozies.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I did.

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Speaker 5: Your whole Uh. Milly's drug storyline was just.

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Speaker 2: The eye roll.

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Speaker 6: Real quick. It went from like I'm the mo I'll

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Speaker 6: take these diet hills, I'm addicted to cocaine in like

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Speaker 3: To tell you, but I'm going to tell you he's

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Speaker 2: They were going to just spring that up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you became an addict in one episode in forty

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Speaker 4: three minutes, and I grew two human beings in forty

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Speaker 4: three minutes in one episode. They sometimes they took the

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Speaker 4: things that would have been so yummy for us to

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Speaker 3: Speed it up, girls, get to the point.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we were always too like the if the

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Speaker 2: No time.

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Speaker 5: With twenty two, we have been a few storylines on

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Speaker 5: the show that I have vocally expressed my displeasure and

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Speaker 5: I would say, I would say it's actually a tie

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Speaker 5: for first place, but you happen to be involved in

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Speaker 5: both of them. The first was Millie's tragic after school

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Speaker 5: special that was a drug storyline, which was just I

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Speaker 5: it's fifty percent me just eviscerating how stupid it is,

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Speaker 5: and fifty percent praising you for somehow making it palatable.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 5: The other storyline being mouth gaining weight in season.

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Speaker 6: Nine, Oh my god, and.

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Speaker 5: Just being like, why are we wasting two terrific actors

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Speaker 6: Yeah, season nine was a doozy. It was like, you

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Speaker 6: know what's funny is I remember the like before we

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Speaker 6: started filming season nine, on whatever platform that was like

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Speaker 6: popular at the time, Facebook or Twitter or whatever it was,

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Speaker 6: And I like texted him congratulations and he was like

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Speaker 6: what is this and he was like, they have me

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Speaker 6: How And it was so out of left field. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I wish that they had spent more of the time,

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Speaker 2: But I don't even know how if they had done that,

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Speaker 6: It was like of all, like everybody, I don't remember

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Speaker 6: that point when I heard like the fat suit story,

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Speaker 6: I was like I'm out, Like bye, guys, this is

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Speaker 6: like I'm gone. But like for the last season, of

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Speaker 6: to just like mail in a storyline. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: we're like kind of supporting characters. That's fine, but like,

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Speaker 6: don't mail in our last like big storyline of like ever,

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Speaker 4: What you guys had gone through and this really great

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Speaker 4: rhythm we had just begun seeing with Mouth and Milli

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Speaker 4: in the morning, Like you guys doing a morning show

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Speaker 4: was so fun. They could have made that fun. You

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Speaker 4: could have had you know, he has a little bit

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Speaker 4: of it. And then Nathan getting kidnapped storyline, but like

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Speaker 4: you guys could have been very like the good guy

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Speaker 4: Bonnie and Clyde, like checking in with all the sources

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Speaker 4: around town. You could have done such cute, which also

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Speaker 4: is so good for you and Lee because you're both

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Speaker 4: such brilliant physical comedians like my god Lisa. To Joy's point,

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Speaker 4: just the sound bites of us talk about like your

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Speaker 4: like I wish we could just we'll.

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Speaker 3: Make it happen.

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Speaker 4: We'll get you all of our audio, like you're just

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Speaker 4: so fantastic And as a fan, as a viewer fan

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Speaker 6: I'm like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 4: You could have done a million things with them in

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Speaker 4: the craziness of season nine that didn't require prosthetics or

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it felt real. It's like cheesy isn't even the word.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, it just wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering because I was in a soap opera for

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Speaker 3: You were a pod person of yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then they brought they brought me back

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Speaker 5: Mean, it was grat Can this be the next show

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Speaker 5: we recap? By the way, yeah, joy soap opera?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it taught me so much about making something

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Speaker 2: to remember how much TV work you had done before

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Speaker 2: One Tree Hill, So I know we have some questions

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this, Lisa when we were watching

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Speaker 5: But if you.

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Speaker 2: Figured out this, like there was this little sweet pocket

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Speaker 2: and it felt like if you didn't dissect it too much,

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Speaker 2: you buy it. You buy the moment it's okay, and

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Speaker 2: everything works. That takes real skill and instinct. And I

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Speaker 2: wondered how much of what you had done before One

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Speaker 2: Tree Hill, or how much of just like having been

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Speaker 2: on the show and learning between your crazies all your

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Speaker 2: other crazy storylines, how much of that prepared you for

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Speaker 6: Okay, I had done zero television before One Tree Hill. None.

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Speaker 6: I had only done theater, only theater only. This is

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Speaker 6: in my and in Stanislaovsky. So Meisner is all about

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Speaker 4: That's so cool. Oh my gosh. I remember to Rob's point,

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Speaker 2: Milli was like the perfect little like cream in the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like Milly and Victoria are actually such

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Speaker 4: Was it nerve wracking for you to work with Daphne

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Speaker 2: I think we all felt a little bit of that

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Speaker 6: Working with Daphne was like, as my oldest daughter would say,

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Speaker 2: Good old soap Net.

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Speaker 2: I literally would put it on every day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's like your comfort, yeah, because it's the things that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like your guilty pleasure.

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Speaker 5: So you we obviously've already covered the Milli low lights

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Speaker 6: Oh, like all the fun stuff I was trying. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah that was really so you too were great. You

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Speaker 5: You were the buddy comedy I didn't know I needed.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Yeah, for sure, I don't know, I really. I mean,

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Speaker 5: We've there have been moments where we've watched someone's performance,

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Speaker 5: So you should be proud because in the hands of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, than to your point about like when our working

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Speaker 4: years later, do you feel like it stands up?

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Speaker 6: Of course, I mean I think that's great, and I

442
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 6: think that you know, as where you know, as society

443
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 6: is evolving and becoming more accepting and of different body types,

444
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 6: I think it's a really important lesson to teach. And

445
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 6: having a daughter like I make sure that there is

446
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 6: nothing mentioned in our.

447
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 7: House about way about same books, about anything like that,

448
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 7: And you know what's so funny is that I was

449
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 7: like the other day, I was.

450
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 6: Like, oh, I gotta die my hair. My graves are

451
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 6: coming out, and she was like, Mommy, Like, you are

452
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 6: beautiful no matter what.

453
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: That's this new generation.

454
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 6: Yeah it is. And like a message of zero was

455
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 6: not a size is timeless. It's just just.

456
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: As and it was time Lee. I think because we

457
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: all did grow up with all the tabloids in the

458
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean so much, especially when you're as a child

459
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: actor like I was. They were all just like in

460
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: the hair and makeup, all of the every magazine, every tabloid,

461
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: it was just around. And you know, back in that

462
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: day and age, it was all body issue stuff on

463
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: the cover of those magazines and rags and so to

464
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: I feel like we were really on the cusp of

465
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: that transition and leading the way in that transition to hey,

466
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: we need to stop focusing on this stuff. And I'm

467
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: really proud of us just as a show that we

468
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: got to do that. And so you guys, that was

469
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: your storyline, you guys, So I'm sure you're even more

470
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: proud of it. But it's pretty cool.

471
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: And we were such a perfect show to deliver that

472
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 5: message given who our demographic was. Yeah, yeah it was.

473
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 5: It really was. For some of the egregious missteps that

474
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 5: our show has had, like we've also had some incredible moments.

475
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 5: And I would say zero is not a size as

476
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 5: like it's in the top two or three, if not

477
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 5: the top one. But when fans come up to you

478
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 5: and they want to talk about something, is there like

479
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 5: a go to scene or moment or storyline that they

480
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 5: bring up most good question?

481
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 6: I mean it is zero is not a size. It's like,

482
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 6: that's it. And what I mean.

483
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: On the rare.

484
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 6: Occasion that a fan comes up to me, it's usually

485
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 6: like can I take a picture? I loved you? You did

486
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 6: such a good job on the show. And then it's

487
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 6: kind of like done, but in a more when I

488
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 6: get more in depth, it's like zero is not a size,

489
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: and Mouth and Milly are so cute they are.

490
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: When you when you moved down to Wilmington, did you

491
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: move you moved to Wilmington right, like because you became

492
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: a series regular, were you always yeah, okay, I never

493
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: know how people were officially build and whatever, But so

494
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: when you moved there, did you just get your own apartment?

495
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: Did you do what we did. Were you kind of

496
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 2: like roomed with other new people on the show.

497
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 6: I got my own apartment, Like it was furnished, it

498
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 6: was downtown, like kind of off the beaten track. I

499
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 6: got my own apartment because I was like, I mean

500
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 6: I'm here now, so like, yeah, I better get a place.

501
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: Did you and Lee spend a lot of time together

502
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: offset just to kind of build that chemistry or was

503
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: it already it was just there when you started.

504
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 6: We already had been like in season five when all

505
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 6: those new people came in every like, I know, I

506
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 6: was hanging out with them, and Lee was hanging out,

507
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 6: Sophia was hanging out. Jane was like it was.

508
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: Like so much fun.

509
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 6: And out and I had a lot of fun, and

510
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 6: so that chemistry like was already kind of there because

511
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 6: we were friendly and then you know, it just kind

512
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 6: of developed over the years.

513
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: That's great, wait to see it. You can see it

514
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: on camera for sure.

515
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were also in that like it was such

516
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: a special moment in time because social media wasn't really

517
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: a thing. You could still like go out with people

518
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: and not feel like you were being tracked all the time.

519
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: You know, like we were going to the brasserie for

520
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: mac and cheese, and we were going to see shows

521
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: at the soap Box and like, it was such a

522
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 4: special moment in Wilmington, and I'm so happy we get

523
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: to talk about all of this today because I was

524
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: just with Lee. There was a convention in Paris and

525
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: Rob came and sadly Joy couldn't join, but like a

526
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: lot of us were there and Lee and I were

527
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: talking about it, and we were like going through our

528
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: phones as you do at our age, like going through

529
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: pictures of your families, and we were like, man, we're

530
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: so happy and lucky. But like, remember when we all

531
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: got to live together and go to dinner every weekend

532
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: and we had no responsibilities and we were so silly,

533
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: and like I was thinking about you and I going

534
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: to pilates and learning how to make basil syrup from

535
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: Natalie and like, oh, it was just such a special time.

536
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: I feel like I remember the basil syrup thing. I

537
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: wasn't there, but did you bring someone to work? Like

538
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: that definitely just rang a bell in my brain.

539
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: Oh, we were obsessed basil syrup, backberry syrup, Like it

540
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: was a whole thing, and it just it's like it's

541
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: like the yummiest memory to me. It feels like a

542
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: It feels like a hot chocolate chip cookie, you know

543
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: what I mean?

544
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 5: Emotionally, so many good things that we all got to

545
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 5: take from One Tree Hill, but you took something from

546
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 5: One Tree Hill that I think is pretty unique and

547
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 5: probably beats what the rest of us took, which is

548
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 5: a hubby. Yeah.

549
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 6: I nail I snagged me a hobby at One Tree Hill.

550
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Yes, you did. You and MICHAELA. McManus, I know we

551
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: nailed life.

552
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 5: Can you tell? I don't know that story? So are

553
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: you sure?

554
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, okay, I'm so excited.

555
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 6: So Brendan kersh So he was the sports coordinator, as

556
00:30:54,760 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 6: you guys know. And right when I remember what Seaton,

557
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 6: I guess it was season six. When season six started,

558
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 6: that was okay. I was moving to Wilmington. I was

559
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 6: like there before everybody because I was just coming up

560
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 6: from Florida and I came in early because I wanted

561
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 6: to find an apartment, and I was like, is anybody here?

562
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 6: Like putting it out in the universe, and Brendan was

563
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 6: the only person who was in town, and I was like,

564
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 6: should go to dinner? Like totally innocent I was like, yeah,

565
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 6: just as friends, let's go to dinner. Now, Brendan thinks

566
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 6: I asked him out.

567
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: I didn't.

568
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 6: We were just going out as friends. But you know,

569
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 6: things progressed from there and like we had chemistry and

570
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 6: you know we I was like, oh, I really like him,

571
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 6: and you know, once the Slamball stuff started filming, that's

572
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 6: when we really started dating and like moved real fast

573
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 6: from there, like we moved in and we got engaged

574
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 6: like a year later, and that was it. It was like,

575
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 6: I don't know, I just was great.

576
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: Talk about like location ship that actually like lasted and

577
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: has kept going.

578
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the secret?

579
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: What's the secret?

580
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: My best friend? You know, like he always was my

581
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 6: best friend. He always makes me laugh and you know,

582
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 6: and vice versa for him, Like I'm always making him

583
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 6: laugh and like we're we're just each other's person.

584
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 5: So before you clearly asked him out on a date

585
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 5: before season six, how did you, guys, sweet I'm assuming

586
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: then you you all met season five and that's how

587
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: you had his numbers.

588
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was like one because he was Him and

589
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 6: James were really close, so he was he was always

590
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: going kind of going out with us and hanging out

591
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 6: with us, so I knew him like kind of as

592
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 6: an acquaintance before season six started.

593
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: Brendan was like as in the mix as like Rob

594
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: for example, Jane Beck, like he was in a posse

595
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: of the friends who on camera people and and off

596
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: camera people who were all around the same age, who

597
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: were just gallivanting around town together on the weekends. And yeah,

598
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 4: you two, I remember as your friend having a moment

599
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: where I like heard your laugh and you were laughing

600
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: so hard, and then I heard another laugh. I knew

601
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: that was so hard, and I will never forget like

602
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: turning like this and seeing the two of you, like

603
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: I saw the fifty to fifty and your head went

604
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: forward and then your head went back, and he was

605
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: doubled over laughing towards you, and then his head went back,

606
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: and I was like, it was like.

607
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: Peo peo pew.

608
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: It felt like the moment in the rom com where

609
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 4: like stars twinkle a little bit, oh God, just like

610
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: the sweetest thing the laughter for you too is even

611
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: as friends who watched it happen like that was cool.

612
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 6: It was so it was great.

613
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 2: I mean, on the kids, do you guys have now?

614
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 6: We well three Gracie is from his previous a previous marriage,

615
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 6: and then we have two together.

616
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Lisa, what ages eleven and nine?

617
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 4: My go.

618
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean if anything will will like hut. I

619
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 6: always say kids are like a tangible measure of time.

620
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 6: It's like you can see it.

621
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy and how fast it goes.

622
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

623
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what is your life like now? Can you tell?

624
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: Just tell us a little bit? I mean, we haven't

625
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: talked in so long. I know you and I messaged

626
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: on Instagram a little bit ago, and Kendra Garrett is

627
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: obviously like I both love her and a mutual friend

628
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: from Wilmington, and she was like, oh my gosh, I

629
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: love Lisa. We've chatted about her, but you and I

630
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: haven't actually connected and I don't. I don't know if

631
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: you've stayed in touch with a lot of us. So

632
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: can you just, yeah, tell us what your life's like now.

633
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm mostly a mom like I had once

634
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: I had our first boy. I was like, that's it,

635
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 6: Like that's what I'm doing because when I was growing up,

636
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 6: my parents had to travel a lot. And I was like,

637
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 6: I'm not like, I'm not doing that. I don't want

638
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: to leave my kids. So you're like, my family is

639
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 6: like my top priority right now. So it's like, you know,

640
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 6: soccer practices and East Sports and oh yeah, it's classes

641
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 6: and voice lessons and Minecraft and dog Man and Taylor

642
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 6: Swiss new album and like you know, like all the

643
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 6: things like that are in your world now that weren't before.

644
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so cool.

645
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 5: Did you sports?

646
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: Yes, Esports. It's like, so my son does Smash Smash Bros. Yeah,

647
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 6: so he does. He has an esports like practice and

648
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 6: then game. So he has practice on Wednesdays and then

649
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 6: a game on Friday where he like they do a tournament.

650
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: Oh wow, so fun.

651
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Interer nerd is so happy.

652
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 6: Oh my god would be like.

653
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 5: I say inter nerd like I'm not an outer nerd

654
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 5: as well. Yeah I love that all I.

655
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 6: Love a nerd.

656
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 4: So it feels correct.

657
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: So are you okay? Is that part of why you

658
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: decided to step away from acting because you were like,

659
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm in this with my kids right now, and I

660
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: want to do this part of it.

661
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 6: I also have like really bad anxiety. So I found

662
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 6: that when I was like always putting myself out there

663
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 6: for auditions and like and that's like your whole job

664
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 6: really as an actor is audition, audition, audition.

665
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: Truly it's the worst.

666
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 6: But I would get into the rooms after one tree

667
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 6: Hill and I would be like, like I would already

668
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 6: be defeated, and I would already like it just wasn't

669
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 6: sustainable for my mental health to continue down that path.

670
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 6: And like, really, for me, the juice wasn't worth the

671
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 6: squeeze anymore. It just wasn't. Like I don't have that

672
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 6: desperate desire anymore to storytell or be on stage or

673
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 6: be in front of a camera. I just don't I

674
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 6: don't know if that like went away after I had

675
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 6: kids or like, I don't know. I kind of like

676
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 6: did everything I wanted to do when I set out

677
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 6: to be an actor, Like I got to be Bell,

678
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 6: I got to be on TV, and like, I don't know,

679
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 6: I got to do so many things, and like, I

680
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 6: don't find I just don't have that desire anymore.

681
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: You also expend so much at creative energy as a parent,

682
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: yet it truly fulfills so much. I mean I know

683
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 2: it did for me, Yeah for sure, for sure. I

684
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: mean I would go to sleep and be like, oh

685
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: what a wow, wild exhausting, daily ahead. But I mean

686
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: I read her like seven books in twelve different accents,

687
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: and we like, you know, went to the park and

688
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: played make believe and we improve with the other kids

689
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: at the park. And then I've made dinner with her

690
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: and we turned it into a cooking show.

691
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: And then I mean, oh, you're a fun parent, joys fun. Yeah.

692
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna be done storytelling. And then your kid

693
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 5: turns to and you're like, all I do is storytelling.

694
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 5: I do fourteen hours of improv a day.

695
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, And not to mention, like, I'm in Florida, so

696
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 6: it's not like I'm living in a place where, you know,

697
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 6: acting jobs are easily accessible. I would have to travel

698
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 6: to do that, or if I was, you know, do

699
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 6: it working for a theater or whatever. It's like that

700
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 6: would take up the majority of my time. And I

701
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 6: don't want anybody else but me determining what I do

702
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 6: with my time.

703
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah makes sense.

704
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, to get your agency back is really it can

705
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: like alter your chemistry a bit because we just didn't

706
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: have it for so long that you get used to

707
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 4: not having it, and then you get a taste of it.

708
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 4: Like COVID for me was my first break and I.

709
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: Was like, I get to decide what I'm going to

710
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: do with my day.

711
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: I can decide what time I'm going to eat lunch.

712
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: Like it sounds so silly, but it really it teaches you,

713
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: I think something else about yourself. And then you have

714
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: kids and their schedules have to trump everything, and it's like,

715
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 4: what a what a gorgeous thing to give all of

716
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: that to yourself.

717
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I mean, it feels so right. And like

718
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 6: people ask me, My family asked me sometimes, do you

719
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 6: miss it? And I'm like, no, Like I miss the

720
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 6: relationships more than anything. I don't miss like I don't

721
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 6: miss the grind.

722
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: You know, is there anything? Is there any role, any

723
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: any show, any anything that would make you kind of

724
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: come out of hiding and be like, Okay, if somebody

725
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: just picked the phone and called and said, Lisa, we

726
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: saw your work on One Tree Hill. You're amazing and

727
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: we need you.

728
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 6: That is hard. That's a really hard question. I don't know.

729
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 6: I don't know if there is one, to be honest,

730
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 6: because I'm such a perfectionist too, and I've been out

731
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 6: of the game so long that I don't know if

732
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 6: I could give it like what it would need me.

733
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, because you know what goes on behind

734
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: the scenes. It's not just like oh, you get to

735
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: come do this thing. It's like I know what that

736
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: I know what the grind is.

737
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 6: Right, Like thinking about going back, like after COVID NEMO,

738
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 6: what's having auditions again? And I was like, oh, let

739
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 6: me think about that. And I was like rehearsing eight

740
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 6: hours a day for three months, six days a week,

741
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 6: and then like doing a show five days a week,

742
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 6: three times a day. I was like, no, I didn't

743
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 6: think so that's easy. Though, Yeah, I'm good.

744
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 5: Didn't you find that? That's one of the natural byproducts

745
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 5: of becoming a parent is that suddenly your free time

746
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: because becomes such a scarce resource that it really helps

747
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 5: very quickly you realize what is important to you when

748
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 5: you only have ninety minutes free a day. If that right,

749
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 5: Like you suddenly realize like, of all the people, there's

750
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: only two people who you care to call back.

751
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 6: You know.

752
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 5: It's like or what activities are going to do? So

753
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 5: it's like when when that way called me back, Rob,

754
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 5: I told you I'm going to call me back to it,

755
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: but no, don't you find it? So it's like like

756
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 5: you become a parent suddenly are like, I don't, I

757
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: don't know if that's how I want to use that

758
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 5: little island of three time.

759
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: I have totally. That's absolutely right. It's like putting my

760
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 6: energy out in the universe for stuff that, like I

761
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 6: don't know is coming back to me. I want to

762
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 6: put my energy into something that I know will benefit

763
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 6: my kids, me or my husband.

764
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: You know, Yes, I love it. I love it. There's

765
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: such a there's such an enchantment. I think people think

766
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: of Hollywood and what we do with this glamour still

767
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: and I love the dismantling of that and recognizing that

768
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: storytelling is hard and takes a lot of work, and

769
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: it's not it's not a life for everyone, and there's

770
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: so much fulfillment in everybody approaches life differently and needs

771
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: something different. And there's lots of things I'm good at

772
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: that I don't have the energy to really pursue as

773
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: a as a career. Yeah, because exactly what you're saying, like,

774
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: I need the things that I prioritize to be things

775
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: that are I'm investing in something that's giving back in

776
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: a way that's really meaningful. Yeah, So I really I

777
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: think it's just so beautiful, the strength and willingness to

778
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: prioritize your family and yourself rather than like what people

779
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: perceive is this perfect Hollywood life, Like, oh my gosh,

780
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: you're on TV. You must have it made, you know.

781
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, like.

782
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 5: You said it, auditioning is the job.

783
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 6: Auditioning is the worst, unless you're like I love auditions.

784
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 6: It's like it's hard, it's going to be hard.

785
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: And I got news for you. It's there are no

786
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 5: rooms or sessions that. There are very few rooms anymore

787
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: post COVID. I mean, I don't know if you've got

788
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 5: to taste this, but it is all self tapes, and

789
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 5: like feedback, you only hear feedback if like you're in

790
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 5: the running, or you booked it, or you did so

791
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: bad they never want to see you.

792
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh god.

793
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 5: So it's just you spending hours doing a tape, sending

794
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 5: it off into the void, into the void, and with nothing. So,

795
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 5: like you said, like you want to be sure the

796
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 5: energy you're putting out is being reciprocated that at least

797
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 5: you could get feedback in a room, you know, a chuckle, yes,

798
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 5: some sort of nice thing that's gone. But let me

799
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 5: ask this as as the keeper of MILLI, Yeah, what

800
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 5: what would you if if? What is Milly doing today?

801
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 5: What is Millie's current life like?

802
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 6: Okay, well, she and Mouth are obviously married with kids.

803
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: I don't know how many. I'm sure maybe they've taken

804
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 6: over the TV station or something like that. There's still

805
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: like a duo and working professionally together and in tree Hill,

806
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 6: like taking the TV industry there by storm.

807
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 5: So that love it.

808
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: Yes, Mouth and Milli in the Morning forever and hour.

809
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 6: Please, I forgot about Mouth and Million in the Morning.

810
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 6: That was super fun.

811
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: So cute. And as we get to the end of

812
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: the season, Milly does this like gorgeously generous thing and

813
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 4: says to Mouth, I love working with you, but I

814
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 4: don't think you're happy. I think you miss sports and

815
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 4: getting In our pen ultimate episode, Mills and Skills, it's

816
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: so good highlight reel of the show for me, the.

817
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 2: Way he freezes up and just pretends like everything.

818
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 4: Winker incredible, incredible, you really are you just you changed

819
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 4: the tree Hill universe for the better.

820
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 5: Lisa, you're big time barnun And as someone who like

821
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: I said, I had no idea what you were up

822
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: to while we were there in Wilmington, doing it now

823
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: going back and watch, you did such a wonderful job

824
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: and you bring such just like grace and levity to

825
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 5: the show and when it gets really outlandish, you ground it.

826
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 5: But if One Tree Hill was your mic drop moment,

827
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 5: which it seems as though for the time being, it

828
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 5: is like what a way to go out because you

829
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 5: just did a phenomenal job.

830
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Thank you were a glue that we all needed in

831
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: all the scenes that you were in. You had an

832
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: ability to pay attention to what was happening, what everybody

833
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: else was doing in the scene, and you knew exactly

834
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 2: what was needed and how to fill it. And that's

835
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: that's not always the case. I feel like there's a

836
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: lot of times when you see people kind of jockeying

837
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: to do the same thing or to they're not playing

838
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: off of each other. And you just truly every environment

839
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: you walked into, it was like you just became this

840
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: adhesive and just brought everything all together. And I'm sure

841
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: that's just a you quality that happens in your regular

842
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: life too, everywhere you go. And we just wish you

843
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: all the best and I don't want to let you go.

844
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: It's so sad, but I'm really really glad. We got you,

845
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: We got our we got our movie, Dick, we got her.

846
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: Call back.

847
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for for being.

848
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 6: Here, Thanks for having me. It was so fun and

849
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 6: I was so good to see you guys. I'm so

850
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 6: glad I got to do this and we finally made

851
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 6: it work. We did Yeah worth the wait, yay bye guy.

852
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 5: My, before we go, Before we go, I have a

853
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 5: little piece of cool news.

854
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: I love cool.

855
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 5: News, no big d but I have got it on

856
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 5: good authority that we have a couple of special guests

857
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 5: that are going to be joining us at our live

858
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: show in the Wilmington.

859
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: That's right in the Wilmington, Wilmington.

860
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 5: Just because we love symmetry, we thought three hosts, let's

861
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 5: do three guests. Guess who we got Tell the people,

862
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 5: Rob mister Sexpylon himself, Austin Nichols. We got him, the

863
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 5: Teflon queen who can just deliver any material and still

864
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 5: make it likable and charming. Jenna Kramer, Hey hey, and

865
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 5: the one the lovable Dufislethario bad boy who talks in

866
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 5: the third person. Chris Keller aka Sweetsweet Tyler Hilton Woo.

867
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait, I can't wait. To sit down with

868
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: the three of them.

869
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 5: Oh, it's great, It's gonna be great. I'm pumped. Man.

870
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: Where can people get tickets?

871
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: The in person wants sold out, but we can watch

872
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: it on the live stream, Is that right?

873
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 5: Yeah? Great question. Joy, I'm so glad you asked. Anyone

874
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 5: can get tickets for the stream at veeps dot com

875
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: forward slash Drama Queens. That's veeps v e e ps

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