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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back, Dale Lolly here with

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Speaker 1: Matt Williams and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation

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Speaker 1: Radio and Matt. In this segment, I wanted to uh

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Speaker 1: take an overall look at the a f C North

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Speaker 1: as we as we do and rank the position groups.

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Speaker 1: We've done that in this off season. We've not done

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Speaker 1: that yet this offseason. So I'm gonna're gonna start here.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking here at the the let's put the parameters

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Speaker 1: down so it really applies to quarterback. Obviously we're not

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Speaker 1: talking about from here till the rest of their career.

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Speaker 1: How good this season? Okay, So we'll start with wide

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Speaker 1: receiver position Baltimore, Sammy Watkins, Miles Boykin, James Proche. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Some guys are yeah, Marquis Brown, Rashad Bateman, Devin Duverney,

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of guys that aren't gonna make the team,

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Speaker 1: including Dion Kane who used to be here. UM six

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Speaker 1: or seven options. Not all those guys are gonna make

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Speaker 1: the team, and two of them will be boss and

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Speaker 1: Watkins will get hurt, you know, but they're hoping two

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Speaker 1: of them hit Cleveland with Jarvis Landry, Donovan, People's Jones,

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Speaker 1: Cadarrel Hodge, Odell Beckham, Shad Higgins. They drafted Anthony Schwartz

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Speaker 1: this year. Um, that's they're a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: most people do, by the way, but that's not a

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Speaker 1: bad five. Not a bad five. Then you go to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Obviously up here they got Jamar Chase, add Tate, people

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Speaker 1: forget about him, um, Tyler Boyd, te Higgins and then

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Speaker 1: we'll see who the no he was, he was gone,

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Speaker 1: he's he was a free agent. So you've got Mike

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Speaker 1: Thomas and Trent and Irwin and Scotty Washington and Stanley

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Speaker 1: Morgan Jr. So they've got some They've got four dudes

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Speaker 1: that are making the team for sure, they're gonna play.

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Speaker 1: Then you have the Steelers with Juju Smith, Schuster, Ray McLeod,

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Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, James Washington, Deante Johnson, Isaiah McCoy is a

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Speaker 1: guy I Rico Bussy. The guys that they brought in

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Speaker 1: this year, Um, probably maybe practice squatters or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's pretty safe to say Ray Ray's

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Speaker 1: going to be a Steeler? I think so. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: way they off season went. I think, yeah, probably, and

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Speaker 1: he was, you know, if he gets his mojo back

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Speaker 1: returning kicks. He wasn't the same player after he had

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Speaker 1: the fumble against the Ravens and that weird really, and

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Speaker 1: he was for most of the last season he was,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was it was pretty good. And I

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Speaker 1: bet mc mcanad is a little interested in what he

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Speaker 1: can do. So how would you rank those rooms? Ravens

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Speaker 1: are last. Okay, we'll start from the bottom. That makes

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Speaker 1: it easier. Yeah, I'm just trying to make because I

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Speaker 1: don't know that it's super obvious. I think Cleveland's third.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Yeah, I mean Odell could

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Speaker 1: be the best player and that did we mentioned, but

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Speaker 1: I can't count on him right now. I think I'll

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Speaker 1: go Steelers first. The superstar though, but he hasn't done

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Speaker 1: it yet. And that's the a little bit down we're having.

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Speaker 1: If we're having the same conversation next year, that could

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Speaker 1: very well be. They could be very well be number one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love Deonte. I always ranked them first,

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Speaker 1: but if the if the Bengal said we'll give you

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Speaker 1: Chase for our choice to any of your receivers, I'd

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Speaker 1: take it. I agree, and I like Higgins Higgins Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Boyd's good. Yeah, no, I agree, but they just

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Speaker 1: don't have the depth of the st lers do with them.

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Speaker 1: Like James. If you if you offered any of those

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Speaker 1: teams James Washington, they jump on the heartbeat. Yeah, he'd play.

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Speaker 1: He'd be the fourth guy. And since he'd be the

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Speaker 1: fourth guy in Sincy, but he would be a big

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Speaker 1: upgrade over their fourth guy. He'd be the third guy

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Speaker 1: in a lot of towns, maybe two insane. Baltimore would

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Speaker 1: kill for him, him last year in particular. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's sets on an easy I mean, the Browns

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Speaker 1: not sure the superstar is, but it's a talented group. Yeah. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's go with the offensive lines. Okay, So the Ravens

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Speaker 1: you're looking at right now, I'm just gonna go starters here.

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, assuming he's help, assume he's back, Bradley Boseman.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler, Alejandra Villaneueva. Okay, um, I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: death chart you're looking at are? It's one on SI

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Speaker 1: dot com. I think Bosman is gonna go from guard

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Speaker 1: think Cleveland. I think that somebody else's fighting it out,

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Speaker 1: just to lay it out. But that's not exactly set

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Speaker 1: who their interiors. It's not exactly great. It's not exactly great. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: the same group as last year. Yes, And they drafted

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Kiit in the third round. It makes you

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Speaker 1: wonder if Chris Hubbard's going to be long for that team.

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Speaker 1: He could be a June first cut. He could be

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Speaker 1: a June first cut, and then I would consider bringing

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Speaker 1: him back right six guy or throw him in the mix. Um.

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Speaker 1: I did my interior offensive line ranks yesterday and I'm

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Speaker 1: doing tackles tonight. I had those three interior guys for

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Speaker 1: the Browns all on the top seven overall into I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be number one. I think it's the best

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Speaker 1: line in the league. Is signon closed anymore? The Bengals

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Speaker 1: as bad as people think. Jonah Williams at left tackle,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's now at left guard, the center is Trey

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Speaker 1: what they have him backing up Michael Jordan's and they

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Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan's all right. I mean, there's no star

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Speaker 1: power there. But it's not as horrible as everyone made

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Speaker 1: it out. It wasn't as bad as it was. I

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Speaker 1: mean last year was it was bad. It was bad,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Uh. And then the Steelers you have chokes

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Speaker 1: the corp for it, left tackle Kevin Dotson and left

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Speaker 1: Hassen now are there right now? Completely wrong? Uh, David

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's one right and I think that they've separated from

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Speaker 1: the rest of the league. Wills, I think is a

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Speaker 1: star in the making. Two. I think that's by far

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Speaker 1: the best line in the league. I'd go Baltimore too,

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Speaker 1: but it's a distant too. Yeah, you know, the bottom

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who else's would start for the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I mean Stanley on his best day, I said they

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Speaker 1: Castro would fight, certainly be in that battle. Um, Steelers

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Speaker 1: are Bengals. I think I prefer the Steelers. I think so,

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Speaker 1: maybe because we see them all the time. Every every

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Speaker 1: lines great. They're they're the weaknesses of the team right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you could ask the Bengals

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Speaker 1: and Steelers coaching staff, we'll give you one starter at

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Speaker 1: one position on your team, they might say, give me

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Speaker 1: another offensive now. If you add Morgan Moses to the

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Speaker 1: Steelers line, I would be closer to too than I

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Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, but I'll take Moses over al absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to say I'd take the Steeler

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Speaker 1: I'm being super homer Ish, but I'd rather Steeler centers

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Speaker 1: with Green than the Bozeman situation. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of upside with Dotson. Yeah. Yeah, the left guards really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, back to the Moses conversation. Yeah again, Steelers,

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Speaker 1: it's Nick Boyle, Mark Andrews, Josh Oliver. They added in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. Um, they play a lot of their taken

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Speaker 1: seven of them the camp, I mean, including you know,

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Speaker 1: Tony Polgen and guys like that. I guess we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: count their their big crazy three pound fullback he stands

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Speaker 1: on his own. Yeah. Um, Cleveland spend an awful lot

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Speaker 1: David and Joeku. Yeah. Three Petittory guys. Uh. Cincinnati has

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Speaker 1: Drew Sample, c J. Zoma pro Wells their last yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Rader beats him out this year. The Dax

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Speaker 1: Raymond two that they added this offseason has some entry.

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Speaker 1: Might be fifth, he might be, yeah, but that's who

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Speaker 1: they've got right now, those five guys. Since he's clearly

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Speaker 1: for I think Andrews is the best tight end in

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Speaker 1: the division, but he's a certain type. Friday both is

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Speaker 1: I think in this one, the top three are very

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Speaker 1: all very close. Cincinnati's a distant four, like as bad

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Speaker 1: Steelers third because Friar moves a little. He's a rookie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's got three good ones. They got three good ones,

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Speaker 1: no great ones. Baltimore has got one great pass catching

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Speaker 1: one and you know Boils boils. You know the Steelers

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Speaker 1: would love that boil. Yeah, and they use them. Well, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh. Okay, you could really

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Speaker 1: shake them up in a bag and come up with whatever. Alright,

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Speaker 1: let's move on. Then to the quarterback position. You got

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Speaker 1: Lamar with Trace Sorley. Mcshorley is his backup don And

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Speaker 1: obviously I'm not gonna wait the backups too much. I

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Speaker 1: don't love that though backup situation either. Um in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: you've got, of course the Mayfield and Case Kingdom still there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati might have the worst backup situation in the league,

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Speaker 1: which is a little startling. You would think they'd get

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Speaker 1: a Flacco or somebody just a mentor and hold down

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Speaker 1: the fort. It's Joe Burrow in Brandon Allen. Yeah, that's rough.

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Speaker 1: It's better. It's still better than what it was last year.

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Speaker 1: It is, but not by much. Uh. And then you

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Speaker 1: get the Steelers with of course Rudolphin. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: put much weight in the backups. I'm going it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter though, it doesn't matter, and some of those back

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Speaker 1: that since he and Ravens one are questionable. I'm going

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Speaker 1: Baltimore one. I mean, he's a year a move from

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Speaker 1: being the league MVP. I mean, I have some doubts

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Speaker 1: about him long term, and if we had a draft

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Speaker 1: right now, I'd take Burrow over Lamar, but Burrows played

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Speaker 1: half a year. Um, I think I'm putting Burrow too.

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Speaker 1: I bet him. I'm going to get to blowback for

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Speaker 1: that because he didn't have a tremendous rookie year. I'm

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Speaker 1: just a believer. I think I'll take Baker three. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Ben four? Just then, And there's a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 1: I have some questions about Baker, but I thought he

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Speaker 1: played really well. He played well in stretches last when

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Speaker 1: they didn't have Hubb last year, he wasn't he wasn't

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Speaker 1: not good. Yeah, it wasn't good. I still take Ben

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Speaker 1: over over Baker. That was my hardest decision. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the edge rushers, Burnell McPhee, Jalen Ferguson. They added Jalen

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Speaker 1: not good last year. Folks that he made a couple

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Speaker 1: it's still writing lot of super strength. But they tacky.

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Speaker 1: are counting on a Motion Cormorris Well, he's gonna really

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Speaker 1: upgrade that Brown's defense. Is he gonna be a full

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Speaker 1: Queen as a rookie struggle and he had a defined role. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know it's not easy. The Bengals there might be

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Speaker 1: been tough on Bush earlier his career. Look at some

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Speaker 1: It's a good group. I don't think it's an elite group.

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Speaker 1: I mean they don't have the Earl Thomas at free

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Speaker 1: or you know, yeah, they're the safety position is a

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Speaker 1: little weak. Uh, Cleveland, get Denzel Ward. You got Johnson

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Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be Johnson. You got Grant so bad,

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Speaker 1: Grant Delput coming back. It's free safety. We don't even

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Speaker 1: You got Greg Newsome, Greedy Williams on the other side.

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Speaker 1: You think beats out. Yeah, but he had some injury

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Speaker 1: issues in college too. And then your nickel was Troy Hill.

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Speaker 1: Who's who's Yeah, he's gonna play now. They at least

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Speaker 1: have options safeties and four corners NFL players, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not running guys out there that have never played before.

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Speaker 1: Um since Cincinnati Darius Phillips. They lost Jackson, but they

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Speaker 1: added dude, Eli Apple. I wouldn't cut much on Apple, safety,

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Speaker 1: Von Bell and Bates. Bates is really good. Bates is good.

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Speaker 1: The other corner, you got Cheechadobee a Woozier. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then Hilton and Trey. Wayne's at nickel. It's not horrible.

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Speaker 1: I think Wayne's opted out or I'm trying to think

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Speaker 1: he didn't play much. I could get hurt. Maybe got hurt.

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Speaker 1: It hurt their secondaries, not their weakness. It's not bad.

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Speaker 1: It's not great. It's not great. Yeah, Bates is really good. Uh. Then,

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Speaker 1: of course for the Steelers, you're looking at, um, Joe

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Speaker 1: Hayden at one cornerback position, make of Fitzpatrick a free safety,

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Speaker 1: Terrell Edmonds as strong safety, and then you get James

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Speaker 1: Pierre justin lane, maybe on the outside. Cam Sutton could

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Speaker 1: nickel and passing downs. I think Baltimore's one, okay, I

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Speaker 1: think since he's four, all right, but it's not awful,

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Speaker 1: is okay? You know? I mean a Woozy and Hilton

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Speaker 1: are players I think make it carries a lot of weight.

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Speaker 1: I would trade the Steelers secondary for Cleveland, though, would you?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I would. I think mank is

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Speaker 1: the best player of that group. But Wards pretty darn good.

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Speaker 1: I liked help It coming out of school. I did

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Speaker 1: not like Greedy coming out of school. No, I didn't either.

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Speaker 1: So um, and they have three safeties. Steelers I think

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Speaker 1: have two. They did they did? You know, guys like

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Speaker 1: Killer brew You got Antoine Brooks there that um. But

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Speaker 1: I would take Harrison over all those guys, or delp

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Speaker 1: it or Johnson. I just think they have more dudes,

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Speaker 1: and I think Wards a star. Okay, if you combine

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Speaker 1: those secondaries, who would be your starters? Probably both Steelers safeties.

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Speaker 1: I think Hayden starts hating somewhere. Yeah, and you've been

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Speaker 1: really good shape with depth obviously finding two teams that's

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Speaker 1: close and Hill might Hill might be your nickel. I think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're sting. I think I'm out of the Sutton and

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Speaker 1: Hill maybe. Okay, then you didn't you like the Steelers secondary?

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Speaker 1: Better safety? To me is why I picked the Browns. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hear if I was ranking those teams. If I

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Speaker 1: was just ranking the players on those two teams and

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Speaker 1: go Mink Award and then more Browns and Steelers. But

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Hayden might be third. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: While those guys are pretty similar, Hayden probably would be third. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's two stars and the Steelers stars a

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Speaker 1: bigger star. But they got a lot of guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't like Greedy all that much, but would he

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Speaker 1: play here? I don't think he would beat up. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he would. He won't tackle anybody. I know.

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Speaker 1: He would not fit in here at all. And he

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Speaker 1: was picked on very consistently his his rookie year as

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Speaker 1: most rookie corners are. Uh he was, he was on.

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Speaker 1: He was not good. He'd be fighting one with Lane

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I bet the Steelers rather than Lane. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all said and done. I mean the Browns aren't

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Speaker 1: exactly showing a lot of confidence that they love they

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Speaker 1: are not. They brought in two big time corners, too

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Speaker 1: expensive corners, and drafted one. Yeah right, I would take

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Speaker 1: the Browns out the Steelers. They're paying their a lot

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Speaker 1: more money though, Yeah right, they should, you would think

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Speaker 1: be better. But we'll see, we will see. But that

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Speaker 1: is the division in a nutshell m interesting. It's an

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Speaker 1: interesting way to look at things like not just say, well,

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Speaker 1: this is team's rosters. But it's not all about the

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Speaker 1: the entire roster. It's about the roster building. How much

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Speaker 1: do you have, Like the Browns are spending a ridiculous

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Speaker 1: amount of money in their tight endroom, ridiculous tight endroom,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they're gonna have The Browns and Baltimore

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Speaker 1: gonna have issues of we pair our quarterbacks soon, you know.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers were trying to get one more year out

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Speaker 1: of their quarterback three Heisman winners of cornerback in the

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Speaker 1: in the division. You know, all of them have not

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Speaker 1: hit their peak yet. None of them are in this town.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals are paying the running back a lot of money, liked,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good running backs in the Division two though,

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Speaker 1: and there's maybe two of the best running teams in

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Speaker 1: the league. That definitely two of the best. And the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are trying to rebuild a running game, and I

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Speaker 1: would think since he needs to run the ball more,

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Speaker 1: you know, And that's kind of a throwback way of thinking.

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Speaker 1: This division has always been kind of in a division

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Speaker 1: where the linebackers aren't the off linebackers aren't great, right,

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Speaker 1: you get some matchups in the passing game if your

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Speaker 1: running backs let alone the run game. YEA, not a

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Speaker 1: bad tight end group stars, but receivers pretty good. Pretty

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Speaker 1: receivers are good. Yeah, I Hodel is healthy. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: not so bad. Yeah, I agree, But that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for this segment. So for my partner Mike Williamson,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We also want to thank Jacob Brecht

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Speaker 1: for keeping us on the air throughout the segment, and

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Speaker 1: we want to thank you for listening to this edition

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Speaker 1: of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.