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Speaker 2: coming up tonight, it's the Falcons at the Buccaneers. The

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Speaker 2: Falcons getting four and a half man. You know, the

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Speaker 2: NFC is there for the taking and this should have

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Speaker 2: been the year for the Falcons. When you think about it,

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Speaker 2: they have a lot of it feels like they have names.

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Speaker 2: They have great names. On offense. They don't always play great,

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Speaker 2: and that's the big problem, and you start to wonder

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Speaker 2: Raheem Morris's future in Atlanta with another subpar season. But

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Speaker 2: they're at the Buccaneers, Mike Evans supposed to play. They

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Speaker 2: got Bucky Irvian back, So maybe Tampa can write the

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Speaker 2: ship here. If not, I hope Carolina takes the thing

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Speaker 2: be once again. Now I'm not rooting for anybody other

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Speaker 2: than great content. Carolina, come on down.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 2: We spent most of the first hour talking about the

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Speaker 2: Michigan situation. Sharon Moore fired and arrested for assault and

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Speaker 2: supposed to have a court hearing at some point this morning.

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Speaker 2: More on this coming up. Dan Wetzel covers college football

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Speaker 2: for the Mothership. He will stop by Rob and Kowski

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Speaker 2: next hour. Yesterday I got information, a lot of information

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Speaker 2: with one of my sources, and one of the pieces

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Speaker 2: of information the Big Ten is pushing for twenty four

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Speaker 2: teams in the playoffs. It looks like sixteen teams next

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Speaker 2: year has a lot of momentum, but the Big Ten

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Speaker 2: wants to have at least four assured spots. It would

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Speaker 2: appear the only way twenty four happens is the replacement

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Speaker 2: of conference championship this is what I'm told. Sixteen has

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Speaker 2: obvious momentum. Simply put, one of the two deciding superpowers

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Speaker 2: would have to back down. That would be the Big ten.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go from twelve to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: We might end up there, but you know, the infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: This is a foundation that feels like they started building

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Speaker 2: makes me nervous about college football and the powers that be,

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Speaker 2: because once we go to twenty four, now we've opened

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Speaker 2: the door and it's wide open and there's a breeze

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Speaker 2: coming in, and that would concern me. If we go

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Speaker 2: twelve to sixteen, Let's see how it feels, Let's see

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Speaker 2: what happens. Let's see what happens to the bowl games.

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Speaker 2: If we go from twelve teams to sixteen, then if

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Speaker 2: then you want to go to twenty four?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Do we need to go to twenty four? No?

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Speaker 3: Sixteen okay, but I wonder can you do?

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Speaker 2: Can you slap on the name of a home game

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Speaker 2: for Notre Dame next year and call it the Pop

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Speaker 2: Tart Bowl? But it's not going to be in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: It'll be at Notre Dame. Because I know that you

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Speaker 2: like that big week. It's Bowl week, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of these smaller cities or cities that are hosting a

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Speaker 2: And I understand that. But if I'm a sponsor, I

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Speaker 2: is where if you decide you're going to have these

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Speaker 2: twenty four teams, and now I'm going to have these

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Speaker 2: bowl games. Well, you're going to have a lot of

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Speaker 2: these bull games for the first and second round. They

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Speaker 2: will be home games for these schools. Because this is

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Speaker 2: twenty four, what's going to happen to the bowl games?

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Speaker 2: That's your semi finals. They'll keep those intact. But the

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Speaker 2: You don't want to have a bowl game and kids

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Speaker 2: I mean, used to be you got a DVD and

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Speaker 2: and you do that at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 2: You start the season where somebody's playing in the Pop

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Speaker 2: Tart Bowl in Orlando or the Mayonnaise the Mayo Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Duke's Mayo Bowl, of course, put some respect. Yes, my bad.

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Speaker 3: Isn't there a Baked Beans Bowl? Bush's Baked Beans of course?

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Speaker 2: But okay, I could still have those bowl games and

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Speaker 2: we could have some good matchups. Also, if we go

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Speaker 2: afraid to schedule somebody out of conference. Like, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of things in play here. But the fact that

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten wants to have at least four automatic qualifiers, well,

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Speaker 2: if that's the case, and I'm Greg sank you at

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Speaker 2: the SEC. First thing, I'm saying, is all right, you

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Speaker 2: won four, we won six, and then see where that

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Speaker 2: Big ten have the same automatic qualifiers. They're gonna be like,

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Speaker 2: uh no, we're the SEC. We won at least five,

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Speaker 4: Yes, eton yeah, I mean I think once you introduced

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Speaker 4: a playoff system, the bowl games lost their value in

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Speaker 4: my opinion, because you can't, like you now on your

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Speaker 4: way to winning the national championship, you're gonna win the

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Speaker 4: Pop Tarts Bowl, the Sugar Bowl and the nationally.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 4: But if you rework the system like you were saying,

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Speaker 4: and the SEC championship game was now the Sugar Bowl

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Speaker 4: every year or something like that, now that makes sense

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Speaker 4: to me, and that bowl still carries some value. It

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Speaker 4: makes the SEC Championship meaningful as well. That to me

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Speaker 4: makes sense. If you know, when the Rose Bowl was

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Speaker 4: lot of sense. That was fun. Now you're just well,

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Speaker 4: let's call the quarterfinal the Rose Bowl. Now we'll just

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Speaker 4: make it that that just there's no value in that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, but it would have value because the game would

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Speaker 2: make sure that these games are going to mean something

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Speaker 2: to these kids, right, And that's where it's tricky. But

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Speaker 2: this and look, I'm just workshopping this. Nobody's told me, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can have a home game at Notre

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Speaker 3: Attached to that.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, some of these schools are get to

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Speaker 2: going to get to the big four bowl games. What

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Speaker 2: do you do with the other ones? And that's why

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Speaker 2: can you do it? To start this season? Can you

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Speaker 2: own the month of September with these bowl games? Which

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Speaker 2: would be kind of fun. Now, granted you're competing with

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Speaker 2: the NFL, but you're always competing with the NFL. But

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Speaker 2: now you get a marquee matchup. Let's say it's Texas

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Speaker 2: and Notre Dame to start the year, and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be in the Pop Tart Bowl. Everybody benefits from that,

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Speaker 2: including us as fans.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Pauling, I just quickly.

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Speaker 5: It took like five minutes with AI to whip up

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Speaker 5: a twenty fourteen playoff and so one of the first

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Speaker 3: Was Michigan at Texas.

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Speaker 5: You could give that to the Xbox Bowl, which is

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Speaker 5: played in Frisco, Texas, And now it's just moved to

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Speaker 5: Austin because they're the higher seed. And now you have

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Speaker 5: the Xbox Bowl as a first round playoff game at

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Speaker 5: UT eighty thousand, and now the sponsor gets way, way,

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Speaker 5: way more eyeballs. The only downside, like you said, is

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Speaker 6: These balls will lose out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the sponsor will get way more of a payoff.

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Speaker 2: We'll have more on the Michigan situation and suggestions for

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Speaker 2: their new head coach. You have the transfer portal coming

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Speaker 2: up they have are they going to play? I guess

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Speaker 2: they have to play in the Citrus Bowl, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they How about Notre Dame replaces

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Speaker 2: in a Citrus Bowl, But yeah, you don't have your coach.

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Speaker 2: How many players are going to be there? And you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, PAULI or Notre Dame versus Michigan in the we

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Speaker 2: One other story and it was kind of well, obviously

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Speaker 2: it was dominated by the Michigan story yesterday or we

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Speaker 2: he's been through, and I'll get to all of his

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Speaker 2: injuries and how many times he's been sacked and just

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Speaker 8: Say, go and keep doing this. I have to have

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Speaker 8: fun doing it. I've been through a lot and if

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Speaker 8: So that's the mindset I'm trying to bring to the table.

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Speaker 8: And I've been through more than most and it's certainly

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Speaker 8: not easy on the brain or the body.

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Speaker 2: He turned twenty nine yesterday, not exactly in a celebratory

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Speaker 2: mood there so he tore his ACLMCL that cost him

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Speaker 2: the tail end of his rookie season. Another season ending

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Speaker 2: injury in twenty twenty three. Tore ligament in his wrist

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Speaker 2: He was out for over two months. He's been sacked

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Speaker 2: at least forty times in each of the last three

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Speaker 2: been through a lot. Came back trying to get his

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Speaker 2: had a couple interceptions there and now basically out of

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Speaker 2: playoff contention, And well, if this is an Andrew Luck situation,

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Speaker 2: because that's what came to mind. Andrew Luck, I believe,

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Speaker 2: is twenty nine years of age when he decided he

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Speaker 2: wasn't having fun. He had all these injuries. They had

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Speaker 2: a bad offensive line. He paid the price for that.

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Speaker 2: Then they got to the point where they had a

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Speaker 2: good offensive line. Andrew Luck was twenty nine when he

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Speaker 2: am I doing? If I'm not enjoying this? Why am

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Speaker 2: I playing? And when you think of all the injuries here,

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Speaker 2: it feels like it's every year it's something, and some

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Speaker 2: seasons it's been more than just one injury. You're not

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Speaker 2: on a good team, you have a team that doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a defense. You got a couple of good weapons there,

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Speaker 2: but this should have been a year where you guys

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Speaker 2: were going to win this division. But this is just

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Speaker 3: Why isn't this fun? It should be fun? Yes, Ton,

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Speaker 2: Jay and Delaware. Hi Jay, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Dany Hey Dan hay tellis two quick things for your

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Speaker 10: dambling podcasts for Dylan and Shay. The Niners surprisingly offensive

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Speaker 10: and the Titans only got one sack on Schadler last week.

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Speaker 10: So I'm saying take the over on everything for Brock

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Speaker 10: and Christen this week, and also for the Michigan head

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Speaker 10: coaching jobs and the name that hasn't been thrown out there.

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Speaker 10: He's also free three pat twelve championship, went to a

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Speaker 10: offensive coordinator for Though, I say, Buck, guys, Chip Kelly, baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Chip Kelly would be hired. I

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Speaker 2: Gruden's name is going to be brought up, but you

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Speaker 2: know he's working for barstool now. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you want to go from working one or two

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Speaker 2: about Matt in Illinois? Hi Matt, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Dan?

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Speaker 11: Hit in it first time, long time six foot in

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Speaker 11: Gronk is to go Gladdam's call him and say thank

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Speaker 11: you's coming in. I'm not a college fan. I don't

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Speaker 11: watch college football. You guys kind of stole my thunder

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Speaker 11: a little bit talking about it. But heep the goal

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Speaker 11: the bowl games revelant and helping the playoffs. Why don't

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Speaker 11: we keep it with the selection committee keeps their standard

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Speaker 2: For somebody who doesn't want college football, you got a

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Speaker 3: Thank you for the phone call. I'm a vegetarian. Here's

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Speaker 3: woo's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: Hey guys, Happy Thursday?

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 12: Dan. I'm wondering who or what group of knucklehead Barney

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Speaker 12: Five's came up the idea of adding outhouse bids. I'm

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Speaker 12: referring to JMU and Tulane bids as an outhouse because

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Speaker 12: if you guys have ever been in what, you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all for the underdog.

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Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that these games are

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Speaker 2: is what the College Football Playoff Committee came up with.

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Speaker 2: You know, win a conference highest ranked, you know all

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Speaker 2: the math that goes into this. You know the points

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Speaker 2: spread at Oregon, what is it, twenty one twenty two

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Speaker 2: points there with JAMU, I like that they get an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I just don't want them to be one sided. And

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Speaker 2: then we go, yeah, they never should have been in. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they got in because you know, they did what they

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Speaker 13: Yes, Marvin, but sometimes blowouts happened. Clemson blew out Alabama Pace,

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Speaker 13: you got blown out a national championship game. But Boise

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Speaker 2: Oh I get so, I know, but we don't focus

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Speaker 2: when Hawaii played didn't they play like Georgia in Atlanta

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Speaker 2: and they got blown out? And everybody's like, Oh, they

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about the Timmy chang Ero, Timmy shang

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Speaker 3: That none in my watch?

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Speaker 2: Mothership College Game Day podcast, New York Times best selling author.

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Speaker 2: When did the investigation begin at Michigan? From what you've

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Speaker 6: Michigan got a tip earlier in the fall about this situation.

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Speaker 6: I think there was an investigation then that did not

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Speaker 6: More information came to light recently, leading to I think

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Speaker 6: What do you think it was a process?

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Speaker 3: What do you think changed here in the last forty

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Speaker 6: I think they got proof that the you know, look

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Speaker 6: I mean that's you. You cannot have the boss, I

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Speaker 6: mean it's his university policy, it's his contract. That's pretty

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Speaker 6: I think they just got that, they got that final

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Speaker 3: What questions do you have today, Well.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot we're waiting for the official details on

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Speaker 6: exactly not so much what got him fired. I think

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Speaker 6: we can all figure that one out, but what happened after.

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Speaker 6: And you know, look, he was the Pittsfield Township police,

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Speaker 6: So fairly recently after he was fired, he went almost

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Speaker 2: Now you got the coaching search is on, and as

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Speaker 2: you said, if they knew three weeks ago, Matt Campbell's

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Speaker 2: got to keep everybody on board. You got recruits you

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Speaker 2: you want to now come to LSU. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: feels like everything's on the table. But if you were

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Speaker 2: doing a short list here, who would you go after?

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Speaker 6: If you're Michigan, Well, I think that the short list

436
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Speaker 6: this is the problem. And I look at I think Dan,

437
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Speaker 6: I've been on the show a long time with you.

438
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Speaker 6: I think he you know, I'm pretty skeptical of timing

439
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Speaker 6: and all the things. I don't see how this there's

440
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Speaker 6: a lot of skeptics of why why did this happen today?

441
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Speaker 6: For Michigan, I'm like, I don't see how this was

442
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Speaker 6: beneficial to them. Obviously they would have had a different

443
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Speaker 6: set of candidates. A number of candidates were hired, A

444
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Speaker 6: number of others signed extensive deals to stay that potentially

445
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Speaker 6: take them off likely take them off the market. Now,

446
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Speaker 6: maybe they were willing to sign extension because they weren't

447
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Speaker 6: really a candidate at Penn State, or they didn't want

448
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Speaker 6: the Penn State job or the Florida job. But Michigan

449
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 6: is a little bit different. But a guy like Matt Campbell,

450
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Speaker 6: he's available a couple weeks ago and he isn't now.

451
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Speaker 6: I would say that the candidates are going to be

452
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Speaker 6: Alabama's Kitlin de boor whether they can get him to leave.

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Speaker 6: He has a very good situation in Alabama. People close

454
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Speaker 6: to that situation talk about, you know, his recruiting class,

455
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Speaker 6: not a lot of trip kids hitting the portal momentum

456
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Speaker 6: of the program. All that the downside, you're following Nick Saban.

457
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Speaker 6: If you don't win national titles, fans go what's up?

458
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Speaker 6: You go ten and two and make the playoffs every year.

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Speaker 6: At Michigan, they're pretty happy. So he's going to be

460
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Speaker 6: a candidate, whether he's interact or not. I think, you

461
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Speaker 6: know Jed Fish up at Washington, Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri,

462
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Speaker 6: and a bunch of other hosts of other candidates, and

463
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Speaker 6: maybe some of these guys that again they signed a

464
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Speaker 6: deal to stay. Maybe Michigan changed their mind. Jesse Mintor,

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Speaker 6: the defensive coordinator for the Chargers, who obviously is working

466
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Speaker 6: under Harball, had been at the University of Michigan. It

467
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Speaker 6: would be a popular choice there. Michigan's an interesting job though.

468
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Speaker 6: You could get all sorts of different NFL interests that

469
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Speaker 6: maybe wouldn't go for another position in the thing. It's

470
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Speaker 6: a nice mix that school. I mean, it's chaotic, they're

471
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Speaker 6: constantly in scandal, but it's a nice mix of like,

472
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Speaker 6: we can win. We have the resources, we have the money,

473
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Speaker 6: the alums, the stadium, the brand, all of that bought.

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Speaker 6: And I hate to say it's not chaotic, because it's

475
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Speaker 6: always chaotic at Michigan, But like the governor of Michigan

476
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Speaker 6: is not going to be involved in the search. The

477
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Speaker 6: fans aren't expecting national type five national titles in the

478
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Speaker 6: next seven years, So there's some and ann Arbor is

479
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Speaker 6: a good place to live. And the Detroit airports right

480
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Speaker 6: there are big airports. Some of the things that maybe

481
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Speaker 6: an NFL coach is going, I don't want to go

482
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Speaker 6: to a college town out in the middle of nowhere.

483
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Speaker 6: There's there's a lot. Michigan has a lot of appeal

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Speaker 6: that maybe a couple of other jobs wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: He's Dan Wetzel, The Mothership host College Game Day podcast

486
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Speaker 2: New York Times best selling author. What do you think

487
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Speaker 2: is the endgame for Notre Dame? After Pete Bavakua came

488
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Speaker 2: on and talked about the permanent damage done by the

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Speaker 2: acc to Notre Dame, I.

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Speaker 6: Think Notre Dame will calm down and there's nothing will

491
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Speaker 6: come of it. I'm this this three day press tour.

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Speaker 6: You you started it all, Dan, you started It's really

493
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Speaker 6: your fault. I think I don't know what I don't

494
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Speaker 6: know what this was, but I think there there there

495
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Speaker 6: was a lot of people in Notre Dame very upset,

496
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Speaker 6: and you see the ad coming out doing. You don't

497
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Speaker 6: see Marcus Freeman, you don't see the president of the

498
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Speaker 6: school or anything like that. You see him taking this,

499
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Speaker 6: and I don't know. I mean, it's not permanent damage

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Speaker 6: is not There's no permanent damage in college athletics. I

501
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 6: mean you could be dead enemies today and best friends tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. My thing with Notre Dame. I thought

503
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Speaker 6: Notre Dame was capable winning national title. The playoff would

504
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 6: be a heck of a lot better with them in it.

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Speaker 6: It's really disappointing, and I get how the players are disappointed.

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Speaker 6: This entire you know, argument about how the playoff worked

507
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Speaker 6: would have been solved if the ACC had a different

508
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 6: tiebreaker for the fifth distermination of a five way tie break,

509
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Speaker 6: if they just did rankings instead of whatever, whatever the

510
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Speaker 6: heck they had. Yeah, we would have had an ACC

511
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Speaker 6: championship game of Miami versus Virginia. Miami either wins gets

512
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Speaker 6: the automatic bid, Notre Dame is in, or Virginia wins.

513
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Speaker 6: Then you say, sorry, Miami, you got three losses at

514
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Speaker 6: this point and Notre Dame is in and we only

515
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Speaker 6: have one group of five. Like people want to blow

516
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Speaker 6: the whole thing up. It's a tie breaker at the

517
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Speaker 6: fifth level. Like it's just it wasn't good and and

518
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Speaker 6: acc should have seen it, come in and changed it.

519
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 6: But when you go there's two there's two ways to

520
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 6: get in the playoffs, right, you win your champoutference championship,

521
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Speaker 6: or you get in this at large back alley knife

522
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Speaker 6: fight where anything can happen. People get left out for

523
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Speaker 6: this criteria that you don't know what's coming. Notre Dame

524
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Speaker 6: sees their independence is great value. It's more valuable than

525
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Speaker 6: being in a conference. So they are going to be

526
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Speaker 6: in this mix every single time. And last year it

527
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 6: worked out for him. It didn't for Alabama and Miami.

528
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Speaker 6: This year worked out for Alabama Miami, not for Notre

529
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Speaker 6: Day you don't know, but for if Notre Dame didn't

530
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Speaker 6: alert their players and their coaches, if the administration wasn't

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Speaker 6: sitting there going in on Sunday saying, guys, this is

532
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Speaker 6: a this is a coin flip. We got no idea,

533
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Speaker 6: and you just walking in saying, don't worry, everything's good,

534
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Speaker 6: We're in. You have not paid any attention to the

535
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Speaker 6: way this works the last fifty fourteen years. You are

536
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 6: paid a lot of money to not be blindsided, and

537
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 6: they said, well, we're blindsided, and that's what's bothering us.

538
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Speaker 6: We don't like the nobody likes the process. You cannot

539
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 6: be blindsided this job. So I think there was a

540
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 6: real dereliction of letting the players know because I think

541
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Speaker 6: they would be less disappointed they walked in saying, hey,

542
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Speaker 6: you know, this stinks. It stinks we could have won it,

543
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Speaker 6: but it wasn't. The rug pulled out. There is no

544
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Speaker 6: rug in the at large selection process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling my friends who were Notre Dame grads,

546
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: they'd be like, what do you think I go. It's

547
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: up in the air, you know, prior to it. So

548
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Speaker 2: if I felt that Pete Bavaqua and Marcus Freeman should

549
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Speaker 2: have felt that as well. Before I let you go,

550
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Speaker 2: had a source who told me that the Big Ten

551
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Speaker 2: is pushing for twenty four playoff teams. They want to

552
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Speaker 2: get four automatic qualifiers. At least we're going to go

553
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Speaker 2: from twelve to sixteen. It feels like I don't think

554
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Speaker 2: we're ready to go from two twelve to twenty four.

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Speaker 6: But your thoughts, Yeah, the twenty four is a horrible plan.

556
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it's terrible because it's not even

557
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Speaker 6: twenty four because what the Big ten wants to do

558
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 6: is they take their four bids and they want to

559
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: play three games on the conference championship weekend with their

560
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Speaker 6: one and two would still play so last year, listen,

561
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Speaker 6: if it was this year, Indiana House, they still play

562
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Speaker 6: for conference title, and then three would play six and

563
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Speaker 6: so I don't know what they'd be, but like Iowa

564
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Speaker 6: is like six maybe, and then Michigan is five and

565
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 6: four would play five. So you can call it a

566
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Speaker 6: twenty fourteen playoff. But once you start having play in rounds,

567
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 6: that's the playoff also, so it quickly becomes like a

568
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Speaker 6: thirty two team playoff if you extracted out all the

569
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 6: big This is a terrible idea. It's just a terrible idea.

570
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 6: The north star of college football needs to be to

571
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Speaker 6: balance maintaining the importance of the regular season, which is

572
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Speaker 6: the best in space sports, with an inclusive and big,

573
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Speaker 6: exciting playoff. And I'll give you example why this twelve

574
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 6: is working. First weekend of the year, No to Dame

575
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 6: lost to Miami. It cost them, And there was another

576
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Speaker 6: one that first weekend of the year. I can't remember

577
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 6: now that one's cost them right. So when you go

578
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 6: into next year, you know, watching on the first week

579
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 6: Labor Day weekend and there's a big matchup between two

580
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 6: top ten teams losing matters, you just can't sit there

581
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Speaker 6: and be like, oh, we got five losses, we came

582
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Speaker 6: in sixth and the Big ten. We're good. We still

583
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 6: got a chance. Nobody thinks Michigan should have another chance.

584
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 6: They weren't that good. They only had three losses. So

585
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 6: that plan is I don't even know if the people

586
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Speaker 6: who come up with those plans even like college football.

587
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 6: I get what they're trying to make money, but like,

588
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 6: it has got to be something for the fans of

589
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 6: this sport where you maintain something before we don't just

590
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 6: go from four to what's really thirty two teams. If

591
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 6: you extract that plan out, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that makes me nervous when you said it's

593
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Speaker 2: a terrible idea. That that that's when they go, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, everybody come into the deep end of

595
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: the poll. We'll figure it out late. That's always they

596
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: they go, let's do this and then we'll figure it

597
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: out after the fact. That's why we get into these

598
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: situations with the college football not to mention college basketball

599
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: was going to expand as well, they're.

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Speaker 6: Gonna go asking for that. Who was asking for that?

601
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Speaker 3: Uh?

602
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Speaker 6: You always asking coaches and athletic directors who have bonuses

603
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 6: in their contract that they get in the Nobody is

604
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 6: asking for that, and you it's yeah, it's they make

605
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 6: big decisions on a whim to try to solve the

606
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 6: last problem that the big decision created. So now they're like, well,

607
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 6: the problem is our league is too big. Well listen,

608
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 6: Big ten, who the heck told you to go blow

609
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 6: up the PAC twelve. That's a you problem, not our problem.

610
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 6: You destroyed that league. You destroyed the old Big East.

611
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 6: You altered like the Big ten reach havoc on college

612
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 6: athletics with their bad ideas, followed by the next it's

613
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 6: like my golf game, Dan, a fix on a fix

614
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 6: on a fix, you know the slice, And now I'm

615
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 6: you know, so this is this is a terrible plan.

616
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Speaker 6: I think they will go to sixteen. I think sixteen

617
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 6: works if they eliminate the conference championship weekend. Speed this

618
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 6: thing up. Everybody gets in more home games too. Please,

619
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Speaker 6: can the fans like attend a game at their own

620
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 6: stadium not be told only the rich people that can

621
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Speaker 6: fly to Glendale for this weekend and New Orleans the

622
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 6: next weekend. They're the only fans to get to ten games.

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Speaker 3: Well that's that's another story though for another day.

624
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Speaker 2: Dan. The future of these Bowl games. I mean, I maintained,

625
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 2: why don't we start the year with these Bowl games

626
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: so you can have matchups that maybe you wouldn't have

627
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Speaker 2: and maybe the pool and weed Eater bull survibes and

628
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: maybe the Pop Tart bull survibes, but you get some

629
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: good matchups at the beginning of the year.

630
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Speaker 3: If you're going to expand sixteen teams.

631
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Speaker 6: What was the last Bowl game that closed in I

632
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 6: think it was the Blue Bonnet.

633
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Speaker 3: The asset business.

634
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 6: They don't go out of business. They I've been hearing

635
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 6: for twenty years that the bowl industry is dead. They

636
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 6: keep making more bowls. You know why. People like to

637
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 6: watch football and they like to gamble on football, and

638
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 6: it doesn't They will play two six and six teams

639
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 6: will play it like the New Mexico Bowl and three

640
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 6: million people will watch.

641
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Speaker 3: Isn't there a five win team.

642
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Speaker 6: Donny, five and seven?

643
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Speaker 11: We don't care.

644
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Speaker 6: Like you can watch a game between like the seventh

645
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Speaker 6: place acc team against the sixth place Big Ten team

646
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 6: played in Fenway Park, you know, baseball stadium named after uh,

647
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Speaker 6: you know, Wasabi computer security And like, I'm all in,

648
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 6: I gotta watch this game. Hunt. These games don't go

649
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Speaker 6: out of business. They never go out of busines this

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Speaker 6: you and I will buy any game that wants to

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Speaker 6: go out of business. These are cash hows. These guys

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Speaker 6: are crying poverty. Sorry, your game doesn't matter as much

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Speaker 6: you There's like forty of them now, how many were

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Speaker 6: there twenty years ago when the sports was dying.

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Speaker 3: The money the people you work for.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's the reason why we got forty Bowl games

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Speaker 2: because they need programming, and as.

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Speaker 6: We should, we're serving the public.

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Speaker 2: Dan He is an ESPN senior writer. I hope I

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Speaker 2: didn't you know upset you today?

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Speaker 6: What you do?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. You just seem like you're fired up.

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Speaker 6: I'm just I'm naturally passionate. It's a good all right,

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Speaker 6: It's been a while. Jeez, get me on Bowl games.

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Speaker 6: I'm ready. I'm not upset. I mean love it, thank you, listen.

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Speaker 6: I think the pop tar Bull is we need to

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Speaker 6: protect the sanctity of the po.

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Speaker 3: We really do so that'll be your legacy. That's your

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Speaker 3: legacy'll be it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well I will die on that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Dan.

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Speaker 2: That's Dan Wetzel, ESPN, senior writer, host of College Game

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Speaker 2: Day podcast, New York Times best selling there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When they say, do you remember Dan Witzel, what's she

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Speaker 2: famous for? He saved the pop Tart bowl.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's a solid like yeah, it is

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Speaker 3: really Yeah, twenty years of pop Tart comes out with

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Speaker 3: his head on top.

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelce, coming off one of his worst games of

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Speaker 2: his career, was on his New Heights podcast and he

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Speaker 2: tried to sum up this season in Kansas City.

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Speaker 14: It's, uh, it's been a tough go around for the

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Speaker 14: past two days. Yeah, it's just you put in all

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Speaker 14: this work and hopes that it pays off, and right

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Speaker 14: now it's just for whatever reason, man, it's little things.

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Speaker 6: It's I don't know, discipline.

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Speaker 14: I feel like I've always had the answers in years past,

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Speaker 14: and this year it's just I just can't find them.

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Speaker 14: And I keep thinking, if I show up to work

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Speaker 14: and I put in the work, and I fix the

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Speaker 14: issues through my practice habits and through perfecting the game

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Speaker 14: plan and my fundamentals and what I'm being taught, and

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Speaker 14: go out there and try and play my ass off

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Speaker 14: for my guys next to me, it's all going to

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Speaker 14: come together like it has in years past, and this

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Speaker 14: year is just not.

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Speaker 2: Man's Travis Kelcey with his brother the New Heights Podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: reality is starting to set in because his career is

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Speaker 2: going to be over probably in four weeks. Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame career, first ballot, Hall of Famer. But you know

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Speaker 2: when people say, oh, you never want to go out

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Speaker 2: like this, what makes you think that next year will

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Speaker 2: be better?

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Speaker 3: Because what another year of experience.

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Speaker 2: He's fortunate that he got this this year because I

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Speaker 2: thought he was done last year. Now he's shown signs

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Speaker 2: that he can still play, but not on a consistent

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Speaker 2: basis not the go to guy that we come to expect. Really,

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Speaker 2: the safety security blanket for Patrick Mahomes, it's just not

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Speaker 2: there anymore. And I think you're hearing somebody say I

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Speaker 2: put in all the time you can put in all

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Speaker 2: the time, but man, father time's undefeated. Yes, Marvin, but I.

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Speaker 13: Can understand him wanting to give it one more go

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Speaker 13: because you are really close to winning the super Bowl, Like, look,

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Speaker 13: a couple more plays, we win the super Bowl, Let's

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Speaker 13: run this back one more time and we can get

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Speaker 13: back here because.

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Speaker 2: You're not even going to make the playoffs. Oh, I know,

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Speaker 2: but I'm thinking that's how Oh you're saying this year.

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Speaker 13: Right, No, I got that, But going back to last year, yeah,

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Speaker 13: Kelsey's probably like, look, we're a couple of plays away

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Speaker 13: from winning the super Bowl. You know what, Let's run

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Speaker 13: it back one more time. But it hasn't been the case.

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Speaker 13: Same record as the Dolphins.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni, he gets paid to be on WIP in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: probably a weekly thing for the coach, and he was

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Speaker 2: asked this question.

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Speaker 5: Is there a possibility later this season if he continues

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Speaker 5: to struggle, that you can make a change at the

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Speaker 5: quarterback spot.

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Speaker 7: No, I think that's ridiculous. You know, I think you

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Speaker 7: know Jalen Hurts. I know every time I go out

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Speaker 7: in that field with Jalen Hurts as our quarterback, we

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Speaker 7: have a chance to win the game.

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Speaker 3: The guy was the Super Bowl MVP. This is really

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Speaker 3: who he is.

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Speaker 2: You have to structure an offense where it is not

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Speaker 2: dependent on him throwing the ball forty times. That to

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Speaker 2: me is the issue. Who's calling the plays, the head coaches.

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna tell me Tanner McKee gives you a

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Speaker 2: better chance of winning. Come on, that's a silly question, yes, Mark.

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Speaker 13: How many fan bases are like this? Where your super

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Speaker 13: Bowl MVP from last season they have this question for

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Speaker 13: the coach. How many fan bases are like this?

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Speaker 2: Well, the Giants fans would probably do this. They did

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Speaker 2: this with Eli Manning Tom Coughlin. The Jets are never

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Speaker 2: good enough where they'd be asking these kind of questions.

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Speaker 2: They never accomplished anything where they'd be like, man, why

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Speaker 2: are you still going with that guy? I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you if there's another fan base that would do that,

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Speaker 2: but you know that. I mean maybe Pittsburgh maybe, but

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Speaker 2: you know with the Eagles, those fans, Yeah, I can

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Speaker 2: see that. Uh JJN Florida, Hi JJ, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 11: Dan?

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Speaker 9: Thank you for taking my call. I'm curious if you

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Speaker 9: watched the thirty for thirty last night about Stuart Scott.

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Speaker 3: I did not.

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Speaker 6: I did.

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Speaker 9: I thought it was any worthy. They did an outstanding job.

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Speaker 9: I wasn't aware that he divorced his first wife. I

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Speaker 9: wasn't aware he was sick three years. Let me tell you,

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Speaker 9: your hair looked Olympic worthy back in the day. It's

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Speaker 9: funny to watch now, but it's a really good show.

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Speaker 9: I would recommend watching.

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Speaker 3: Well now, I'll watch if they have my hair on there. Yes, Paula,

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Speaker 3: your hair.

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Speaker 5: Got a lot of run, a lot of run. I

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Speaker 5: watched the first half of it. There's a lot of

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Speaker 5: Stuart growing up that I didn't know about that really

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Speaker 5: gives a great backstory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some revisionist history with people's opinions of Stuart.

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Speaker 2: He went through a lot, put up with a lot,

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Speaker 2: fought through a lot, and at the very end he

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Speaker 2: fought really, really hard. Rob Gronkowski joins his final hour

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Speaker 2: of the program after this