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Speaker 1: back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in

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Speaker 1: It's called The Eight Rules of Love. I cannot wait

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Speaker 1: for you to read this book. I have spent the

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Speaker 1: sitting down and researching cultures, looking at ancient wisdom, studying

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Speaker 1: And yes, we have to work harder to use technology

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Speaker 1: so I got used to it and that really helped

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Speaker 1: And I think we think of rejection as something's going wrong.

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Speaker 1: In reality, everyone you look up to, everyone you admire,

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Speaker 1: even people who you see in successful relationships, have experienced

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Speaker 1: often talk about love like it's so hard to find,

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Speaker 1: but in reality, it's truly everywhere. Romance is only one

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Speaker 1: type of love. The reality is that opportunities to experience

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Speaker 1: waiting for you. You're not waiting for it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: everyone for listening to today. I am so grateful that

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Speaker 1: you spend this time with me. I really hope that

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Speaker 1: you're going to go in pre order my second book,

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Speaker 1: my new book, Eight Rules of Love. All you have

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Speaker 1: so much for I'll Let Love. But I am so

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Speaker 1: excited for you to read this book. I promise you

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a game changer. I have so

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Speaker 1: we did to put this book together, and I can't

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Speaker 1: it's not out till thirty five to January, but please

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Speaker 1: it with you when it's out. Thank you